New Video: See the ‘Saggy Pants’ Dispute That Got College Football Player Booted From Plane
- Posted on June 19, 2011 at 12:31pm by
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SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — A University of New Mexico football player who was arrested after wearing saggy pants on a plane at San Francisco airport insists in a video showing part of his exchange with authorities on the aircraft that his pants were up and he had done nothing wrong.
The San Francisco Chronicle obtained the video and a link to it was on the newspaper’s website Saturday.
“My pants are up sir,” a seated Deshon Marman tells the captain, who along with someone who appears to be a San Francisco police officer, is standing near his seat. “I’m not doing anything. I paid my fees, and I’m ready to go.”
The Chronicle said it obtained the three-minute video from a passenger who was sitting near Marman during Wednesday’s incident and did not wish to be identified.
What the video does not show is Marman‘s repeated refusal earlier to follow a boarding agent’s advice and pull up his pants, Elise Eberwein, a spokeswoman for US Airways, told The Associated Press on Saturday.
“When he was asked by our employee at the Jetway to please pull them up, that employee was told to pull them up for him,” she said. “And that exchange continued to the door of the plane.”
Marman’s pants were so low they were “exposing areas that most people would not want to see” and violating the airline‘s expectation that customers won’t dress offensively, Eberwein said.
Attempts by the AP to reach Marman were not successful. A call to his attorney’s office Saturday afternoon was not returned, and calls to listings for people with his mother’s name in San Francisco were not returned or went unanswered.
News reports have identified his attorney as Joe O’Sullivan and his mother as Donna Doyle.
Marman said in an interview with KGO-TV this week that his pants were slightly below his waist, and he was unable to lift them up because he had bags in his hands.
O’Sullivan told the Chronicle that nothing was visible once his client sat down.
“The issue should have been over,” he said.
Marman was arrested on suspicion of trespassing, battery of a police officer and obstruction after refusing to leave the plane on the captain’s orders, according to police. Police have also said he injured an officer while being taken into custody.
“He’s refusing to get off,” Eberwein said. “The captain’s thinking, ‘What if he refuses something else in the air?’”
Marman was released on bail Thursday. Prosecutors have until July 18 to file any charges against him.
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Comments (188)
Rickfromillinois
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:28pmHe wasn’t arrested for wearing his pants below his butt, he was arrested for trespass when he refused to leave the plane. He broke the airlines rules, which is a private company, he refused to take care of the problem and refused to leave the plane. That’s when the law intervened. He refused to leave private property. You do not have a right to fly on a airline. It is within their right to refuse anyone service if the customer breaks their rules. You have a choice, comply with their rules, fly on another airline, or find another way to get to your destination.
Report Post »FlyingSigns
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:41pmMessing with a flight crew is also something (very serious) they could have nailed him with! And you are right but don’t you think some saggy pants is a poor excuse to refuse someone who bought a ticket from your company? Once again, his shorts were still on. May have simply been a “wardrobe malfunction”. LOL
Report Post »FlyingSigns
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:26pmWhat happened to the lady who flew in her bikini, due to the TSA searches? Or the the girl who got booted for wearing too short a skirt or shorts??? Who cares if this guy was wearing underwear??? I bet the inflight movie had more nudity than they ever saw on this man!!!!!!!!! Do I smell “power trip”? Not by the Capt. but maybe the person who started it all on the jetway?????
Report Post »frustratedwithgovt
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:32pmI think that maybe that is part of the problem. We get too comfortable with it all. Maybe we should start insisting on some higher standards for society as a whole.
Report Post »seadude
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:25pmJust a typical ***** being a typical *****… same old story…..
Report Post »TANK3584
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 6:41amAgree..Probably looking for a lawsuit….
Report Post »frustratedwithgovt
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:18pmHeck, even Lady gag gag knows you have to dress somewhat appropriately when travelling.
Report Post »artmonster1204
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:15pm“I didn‘t do nothin’ ta nobody!
The whole saggy pants issue indicates to me that those who consider it fine to look offensive have no respect for others or their self. It is also hypocritical for those who dress in a way that calls attention to them to complain when they do receive that attention.
Report Post »Doug
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:39pmYou hit the nail on the head. It is a form of dress intended to offend, draw attention, disgust, and dare authority to say anything. Most probably wouldn’t to avoid a confrontation. In this case authority (the airline) did the right thing. There are basic public standards of dress and displaying your butt crack in public is not a recognized community standard.
Report Post »hbest
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:12pmjust a punk from the hood. you can be a punk no matter color, sex or creed.
sadly, there are way to many and the numbers are growing daily.
Report Post »twistin
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:10pm0 is prez, so….
Report Post »KeithOlberdink
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:09pmYou don’t like the rules? Then don’t fly! A private business has every legal right to enforce a dress code. Pull em up and grow up ya tard.
Report Post »Cold War Vet
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 11:47pm@ KEITHOLBERDINK
Wow! I didn’t think of the private property angle, but you are correct! The airline is a privately-owned, for-profit business. They need and want passengers, and from a purely demographic standpoint, they really DO RESERVE THE RIGHT to disallow a certain kind of attire, if it may offend their other passengers. Not doing so could hurt their bottom line!
Also, this is yet another reason why America does NOT need or want communism.
Report Post »trooper
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:05pmWho on gog green earth wants to sit in a seat contaminated by a skinking apes fecal matter seaping through his walmart underwear, he just wanted to start trouble like all black sub-human a “apes”. They should have waited till the aircraft was at V2 “nose up rotation” before they “chucked” out the door.
Report Post »The Big Pickle
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:03pmOnce he caused the disturbance on the plane it’s OVER!
Get the F off the plane, boy!
Report Post »The Big Pickle
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:02pmnegroes. geesh.
What a culture clash trying to get them to live amongst normal civilizied human beings.
Can we get a national repatriation project started? Please???!!!
Report Post »cranberry
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:01pmTrying comments again, first one didn’t take for some reason –
Report Post »They are called Belts, you can purchase them at Walmart. Even a piece of string or twine would work, even with no belt loops you can stop your clothing from exposing THAT.
firemanfrank
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:00pmWhat makes the police the people in charge of setting the standards of how a man can dress. As ridiculous as this seems this is America LAND OF THE FREE , Maybe this guy doesnt like your bow tie or that a man has longer hair than a woman,who should be the judge.I think it looks horrible but maybe I dont look good with shorts and dress sandals.When do people realize your values and sense of style shouldnt be part of my agenda that is not what this country is about.
Report Post »Liberal Media Dropped Ball On Nine-Eleven
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 12:57pmAs a frequent flier, I’ve seen worse. last time, I had a window seat, and this gay guy on the aisle was drunk, and wouldn’t get up to let me pass and I was forced to “squeeze” by his legs. When returned to my seat, he said “What’s your problem, etc” And I looked at him and told him I wasn’t going to “play games” with him, and he stood up and let me pass. But he was so drunk, the gay steward keep feeding him alcohol. I was going to punch and kick the guy, he was so offensive. But I kept my cool, and he calmed down knowing everyone was looking at him. Whatever his problem was defused, and he seemed “normal” after the incident I had the flu and was in no mood for “games”. He eventually passed out in his seat.
This video proves this situation might have been “trumped” up. I see people all the time on flights with real problems, and most passengers, pilot and flight attendants just tolerate it.
Report Post »WTSpike
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 12:53pmLook, he was being very respectful of the men who were questioning him. His routinely addressed the men who were questioning him as “sir”, and insisted that his pants were up. We here do not know how low his waist line was. Obviously they were lower than most people would find appropriate. However, the authorities blew this way out of proportion. It is not right to refer to him as a “punk” simply because his pants were allegedly too low at the waist. Objectionable, perhaps, but not enough reason to interrupt the entire flight.
Report Post »Iam4EnoughALREADY
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:48pmRespectful….or irrogant……It’s called a LACK of respect for others…..I do not want to see you butt or underwear….
Respectful…would have been….”I am sorry I may of offended anyone….let me pull my pants up and it will not happen again…!” Then it would have been over…….
Report Post »mlcblog
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 3:07amI did not think he was respectful at all. Just because he kept saying Sir? He continued to tell them his version of the law. I am glad he is going to take it up with the judge.
Report Post »Jimbo Wales
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 12:51pmSo because one employee hates black people with saggy pants this man misses his flight and goes to jail? Really?
Report Post »Like the guy said, he didn’t hurt anyone in any way. If you don‘t like the way he’s dressed, DON’T FREAKING LOOK AT HIM.
Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:02pmYeah, blacks are the only ones doing it, please stop with the racist cry you big baby. I see a lot of whites doing it too and it’s just as disgusting.
Report Post »liberalsarealiens
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:48pmJumbo, you will never get it will you? It’s called having Decent Social Behavor! This anti- social behavior in the way these people dress is disgusting to many and I would add most people in this country. It’s not a “fasion” statement at all because it amounts to nothing but an IN YOUR FACE, defiant, anti-establishment, anti-social form of gutter display! To call it racist and against blacks is a typical left wing attemt to slander anyone who disagrees with this discusting show of defiance. And people who adhear to this “style” wonder why they can’t get ahead in society! UB
Report Post »Tea-******
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 12:49pmStuff like this brings out my deeply buried Conservative side;” ARREST The Beasts Who Show-Off Their Asses In Public!”
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 12:47pmPeople who disrespect themselves by dressing in such a poor manner or most likely to disrespect you. I just heard on the radio yesterday that Cleveland is going to have a dress code for the courthouse now, no tattoos, piercings, shorts, flip-flops, short skirts will be allowed, the men must wear a tie too while working there, about frigging time, hope it spreads.
Report Post »Cold War Vet
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 11:29pm@ BOB_R_OATHKEEPER
That’s kind of a hard line, but on the other hand, I was brought up that way myself. It’s always about respect and being respectful and respectable. I agree that sagging pants are not “art” or accepted expression, but an “in-your-face” type of intended insult. How low America has been dragged down by liberal progressivism!
We are not third world hacks, intimidating voters, beating our women and living in impoverished squalor. We are Americans. We need to raise the bar back up to a level fitting of Western civilization and Judao-Christian decency.
Even if a person is not religious, the basic ideas, even without the theology, are solid gold and result in a clean, civilized society with standards. When I was a kid, adults wore hats when they left the house, and took them off indoors. Same with the military. People had manners. Profanity or vulgarity was not displayed in public. There are better ways of opposing popular consensus than by letting your butt hang out. Uncivilized and barbaric!
Report Post »NeoKong
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 12:47pmA tough call.
On one hand I respect the right of an individual to express himself in the way he dresses.
On the other hand I have to wonder just how low were his pants. If they were way too low he could have at least pretended to cooperate. I’m sure if he gave in a little they would have backed off.
Whether it is fair or night flight crews have the authority to issue orders the passenger may not like.
Report Post »If he felt insulted he was free to leave.
He chose to argue and defy their orders.
You cannot do that on a plane.
Texas Hills Patriot
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 12:46pmGrow up and pull your dang pants up! Why is that such a problem?
Report Post »Wyatt's Torch
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 12:52pmhe was wearing pajama pants he said…I wonder if he had superman underoos under them…grow up is right
Report Post »WTSpike
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 12:45pmI am not a big fan of current fashion trends towards “Ghetto-Fab” clothing, and styles that promote exhibitionism, ie, baggy pants that hang halfway down the wearer’s ass. However, this man was hurting no one, breaking no laws, not instigating a scene, not threatening anyone, and was not endangering the airplane nor anyone on it. The authorities may have felt they wanted to make an example out of him, but they blew this situation way out of proportion, and violated this man’s civil rights.
Report Post »Dahart
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:15pmI would have to agree, It’s getting to point in this country were anything you say or do can land you of the wrong side of the law. The rule book has become sooo thick that no one could possibly comply with all of it.
Report Post »mlcblog
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 3:05amYou were’nt there. I trust the captain and the crew to ask for decency. I believe the man was showing skin we don’t want to see, beyond the usual droopy drawer style.
I stay amazed at how the captain and his person did not engage in discussion with this obviously rebellious person.
Report Post »liberalsarealiens
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 12:44pmAbout time this outragous style of dress was confronted. My wife and I have always been offended by this ridiculous “statement” from people who have no reguard to any sense of decent social behaivior! Good on the Airline and a Thank you to the Captain!
Report Post »101
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:41pmAnybody sag at your DZ? Bet you don’t even know because people are excepted for who they are!
Report Post »liberalsarealiens
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:58pmAbsolutly right 101, people are respected for who they are and how they respect others! But I don’t think you would know the meaning of what I just said! You see it does boil down to respect for others!
Report Post »101
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 2:25pm@ liberalsarealiens
Report Post »What one wears doesn’t warrant respect or disrespect, you missed my point entirely
.
I see you’re not a skydiver, just have a pic…is that disrespectful to skydivers?
jp2feminist
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 12:44pmWhat this football player needs is a good dose of BOOT CAMP!
Report Post »Mapache
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:58pmBoot camp no, but his COACH needs to stop treating players like prima donnas and let them know that society has expectations of civility. Coach Lombardi understood that and had his team, the first pro football tea to be required to wear suits and ties while traveling to road games. Pulling up your damn pants should not be an issue, them droopy draws should never be down in the first place…
Report Post »HumbleMan
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 2:00pmI’m with you on that. He suffers from a serious deficiency in vitamin-R (respect). This is not TSA crap. This is the captain taking his job seriously. I suspect the words he exchanged with the crew or ground-crew member were some cause for concern. An airline captain is not an idiot and is NOT on a power-trip. He’s responsible for everyone on the aircraft.
This fellow is being obstinate, defending his right to show his butt to the public … NO SINISTA … it’s not our obligation to divert our eyes. It’s his obligation to wear pants in public. Boot camp would do him a world of good.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 2:38pmIt is your obligation to divert your eyes. Stop staring. It’s rude.
Read your Kindle or something. Play Angry Birds or something. Stop staring at my butt.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 6:25pm@Sinista MACE
Your right to throw a punch ends where your fellow mans nose begins. By your way of thinking, folks should be able to walk around naked, and it would be everyone elses duty to look the other way. Lewdness transends to speach, music, dress….. If I am offended that someone used the “F”
Report Post »word in a public restraunt, you do not just listen to something else. The person using the foul speech needs to be the one to change. Same goes for folks walking around with their butt hung out, the trashy dressed woman who fails to cover herself, or the cross dressing freak dude who is trying to use the same restroom as my daughters. American has become offset. We have the statue of liberty on the east coast, we need the statue of personal responsibility on the west coast. You seem to get it when it comes to the sodomites, and baby killers. The thug culture is just as damaging.
Sinista MACE
Posted on June 21, 2011 at 8:40amRangerP
They have censored 4 of my responses to you (I’m not sure why) but whatever.
It isn‘t anyone’s responsibility to assuage your sensitive eyes. Naked is the natural state of man, and only those with guilty conscience is bothered by it. Get your mind out of the gutter.
“The person using the foul speech needs to be the one to change.”
Um, no they don’t. It’s a free country, you’re not the dictator, and people have freedom of speech.
Nobody is obligated to bite their tongue for you. Nobody is obligated to dress a certain way or wear their clothes a certain way to appease you.
Get over yourself.
Don’t talk to me about “thugs” and “thug culture” unless you’re referring to those Nazi TSA THUGS molesting people at the airport, soon to be doing it to people on the streets.
I’m more concered with them than some random male with sagging pants.
Report Post »Oldtexan in support of Israel
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 12:43pmWhat is so hard about not showing your butt?
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 7:59pmIsn’t that the truth. We used to have a “Speedo” man who wore his speedo everyplace. In the winter time he‘d put speedo’s on over his tight pants. Once I saw him wearing a thong and I couldn’t believe it. Just walking down the street with his entire butt hanging out with a short t shirt cut off above the waist. He was demented so he got away with it.
Report Post »GeorgieJo
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 2:09amWhen my son went through that droopy pants thing—I would yell out BALLOON BUTT
He soon stopped doing it
I looked at the video I thought the dude was Whoopsy
Report Post »Tear Em Up
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 12:40pmI have no problem with droopy drawers, as long as they don’t offend others. If they do, PULL THEM UP!!! It‘s not like you’re being forced to go home and change. It is simply being considerate of others….
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Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 12:45pmIndeed, just pull the pants up. That is just simple decency as not many people want to see a set of persons under drawers all of the time.
Report Post »All_Right_Winger_Blog
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 12:47pmThe kid was being a punk most likely, but he made the mistake of not “respecting their authoritah” so they are power tripping I think.
Report Post »Wyatt's Torch
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 12:50pmPants on the ground…customers complain…lookin like a fool with your @ss off the plane…
Report Post »grandma7
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 12:54pmOk, I hate the baggy pants thing. My grandson does it, but keeps his shirt hanging over it. It’s a fad and the kid is a little old to be doing it. But arrest…… He didn’t sound like he was being rude. I wouldn’t worry if I were sitting next to him, even after what I witnessed. I’m for Less government. Can’t see how this falls into a need for an arrest. Am I missing something?
Report Post »The Big Pickle
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:05pmThe only solution to this problem is to bring back Jim Crow laws!
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:07pm@grama, what your missing here is disrespect for the pilot of the airplane who makes the decision who flies & who doen’t. First, in my opinion, I wouldn’t want to sit where he was sitting with his crack exposed to the upholstery. I don’t even sit on toilet seats without paper protection, what’s the difference? The man was asked repeatedly to pull up his pants. He could have set his belongings down for this simple job that would have taken a second. Some athletes & “stars”? seem to think they are above the law, on the airplane or on the ground.
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:10pmHe was probably one of those right-wing extremists, huh?
Actually, I’m mixed on this one.
First and foremost, the law is the law. If the local laws specifically define this attire as ‘exposure’ or ‘indecent’, then the law must be enforced.
Second, the airline is a private business and the aircraft is private property, and as a commercial pilot I know the Captain has the FINAL SAY on all matters onboard an aircraft. He is ultimately responsible for the safety of ALL PASSENGERS, and should not put up with the LEAST bit of disruption. Once in flight, you are stuck with the passenger until landing. If a passenger is unruly on the ground, it is ABSOLUTELY best to eliminate the problem prior to departure. Once airborne, the Captain is busy and does not need to be disrupted by unruly pax.
Lastly, California’s Unruh Civil Rights Act, “makes it illegal to discriminate against individuals based on unconventional dress or sexual preference.” As such, his dress may be protected by California Law.
This will end up in the courts.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:21pmHow about STOP LOOKING AT MY AZZ.
Pervert.
Why are your eyes lingering near my posterior?
You need to learn that people don’t have ANY CONTROL over others.
You DO have control over YOUR OWN EYES. DIVERT THEM.
Report Post »4X4in
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:26pmI am to understand that they were Pajama bottoms…….
Report Post »Did he have on fuzzy slippers too?
Most likely disrepected some earlier, and this was the result!
13th Imam
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:26pmStungun to the offending package. Rinse. Repeat.
Report Post »Drag has a** off the plane. Repeat
effvar
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:32pm@ sinista mace…..Spoken like the true thug you are!!
Report Post »101
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:33pmThe pilot was on a power trip and should have left it alone…what’s next the kid with the mohawk or the guy with a tattoo, maybe the 12 yr old with orange hair.
The guy was sagging “big deal”. You got to luv an elder going all self righteous!
Report Post »Edct
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 1:38pmStupid animal should have been put in jail for indecent exposure….we do not want to see this animals underwear….he is obviously an uncivilized animal because he does not think about the rest of society.
Report Post »grandma7
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 2:14pmBlue,
I agree 100% about the disrespect to the people asking him to do what they want. The PJs he’s talking about are covering his stuff, then the outer pants slide down.
I Hate It and, as a grandmother, let my grandson know often. I, too, use multiple seat covers.
I just can’t see the Arrest part of it. Maybe an escort off, by security.
We stopped teaching our kids respect when the word “Shame” was taken out of our dictionary/life. I’ve said this for years – without shame, we’ll be a nation of disrespect. Here it is. The kid, while politely disrespecting authority, is doing what he’s been taught by the system. Do what Feels right to You. Take care of You. The Me Me Me generation started during the 40+ year olds’ days. They taught their kids what they learned = and I’m telling you = it wasn’t respect.
Let’s get out there and teach our Grandchildren how to properly respect authority. If someone would have said that to my grandson, you bet he’d have pulled them up….then rolled his eyes (which I cringe at).
Again = just can’t figure the Arrest part of it.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 2:37pmeffvar
You stupid EEEDIOT!
The true thugs wear TSA uniforms and put their hands IN YOUR PANTS (and your baby’s diaper). They don’t sag their pants. They like their crotches all tight-fitting and looking spiffy in their Stasi Squarepants.
He’s just going above and beyond TSA compliance and offering them easy access to the JUNK AREA. You know, where the “terrorists” are going to hide firecrackers like that guy who the CIA held his hand and escorted him onto the plane, Abdul Mutallab. But don’t worry, they won’t be catching any of those guys, for one because they ARE those guys, and for two because they don’t profile those guys, they profile old ladies, 12 year olds, disabled people with poopbags and peebags, baby diapers, and hot celebrities.
HumbleMan
He didn’t show his butt to the public. The public took it upon themselves to stare at and be “offended” by his underwear showing. He didn’t pull his cheeks out and moon anyone. Man, if every fat plumber with crack exposed knew the world was out to get them, we would be in serious potty trouble. If every woman knew some guy was going to stare at her cleavage and then be an idiot and complain that he actually saw something in public he rarely if ever sees in private, I mean wow. Life would be quite bland.
It is your obligation to divert your eyes. Why the hell are you staring at my butt? He was wearing pants. He doesn’t have to wear them the way YOU determine.
Report Post »fatjack
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 3:27pmHe’s a college football player, he’s entitled. If you don’t like it, it’s your problem not his.
Report Post »dnnyshdy
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 3:30pmThis damn saggy pants stuff is just stupid.Why in the hell do you want your pants falling down.Sagging pants,Rap( music?),shoes left untied(80′s fad) hat cocked sideways(the bill of the hat is to block the sun).All of these things are just stupid unless you’re black(or a wannabe) then it’s cool I guess.What’s next wearing your shirt backwards,shoes on the wrong feet.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 3:55pmDnnyshdy
Don’t make us start wearing black berets, black cargo pants, black boots, black sunglasses, and black gloves.
Report Post »getalong
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 3:58pmFrankly, I have never understood this look. It makes people look like they are too stupid to pull there pants up. How long will it take till Obama states that the “Pilot and crew acted stupidly”?
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 3:58pmDnnyshdy
Go ask some crossdressers why they wear women’s clothes.
They‘ll tell you it’s because they want to. Then they might flail at your with wild swings of their arms and shriek with artificially high pitched voices.
Report Post »dnnyshdy
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 4:05pmSinista your black panther stuff would be a great improvement over the stupid crap I see these days.Are you comparing sagging pants with dresses?
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 4:40pmDnnyshdy
I don’t think you would want to see urban culture turn toward black panther ideology. I don’t.
And yes, I am comparing sagging pants to dresses. It was a homosexual thing that started in prison and became a part of urban culture due to the phenomenon of the assimilation of some homosexual affects into the culture. Men wear the style while maintaining their masculinity, a metrosexual behavior akin to skinny jeans.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 4:48pmSagging pants is simply an extension of Dandyism.
Yankee Doodle went to town, a’ridin on a pony,
Stuck a feather in his hat, and called it MACKaroni.
Yankee Doodle DANDY.
Blacks picked up Dandyism as a prideful way of mocking their poverty. Where do you think the Zoot Suits came from? Hipsters. That’s what it means to be “draped up”. Zoot Suits were called drapes.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 4:54pmWhite people were dressing like that too, Dnnyshdy.
You remember all those rock bands from the 80s, they were all looking like women.
Remember Poison?
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.aolradioblog.com/media/2010/04/lookwhatthecatdraggedin-1272664852.jpg
Wow.
Report Post »redbrown02
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 5:26pmSo fatjack just because he plays football he is entitled? Wear your clothes in a respectful way in public. I don’t want to see his ass or yours or anyone else. And, don’t come back with with this dumb crap look away. People who dress this way want to be looked at!
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 5:54pmRedbrown
I think you just want to look at a man’s rear end.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 6:19pmTake prayer and Bible out of schools, replace with evolution, humanism, and “if it feels good do it” type of thinking, and in twenty or so years, you get grown men walking around with no clue how to act, dress, or speak in public. You end up with a jungle mentality. Color of skin is not material to the subject. I do not want to see a white kids underware strutting along in front of my wife and children, no more than anyone elses. I do not want the cross dressing freak show in front of my children, and same goes for women who fail to cover themselves. Funny how fast this nation has fallen in just fifty plus years. In the 50s, if a vehicle rolled up into the parking lot of your local grocery store with the THUNG! THUNG! THUNG! base noise, accompanied by “I am a bad Mo—- F—-r…” Every man in hearing distance would have pulled the driver out, and thumped him into reality. The liberal God haters knew what they were doing with their rules of policical correctness, that they castrated the average male in America with. The one thing most males fear most now, is being labeled a racist, homophobe, or sexist. I for one do not fear their labels. Trash is trash, regardless of color, sex,….
Report Post »Superwalrus
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 7:09pmI agree with Grandma7 …And although I cannot stand the droopy pants thing, as long as he was screened who‘s to say what’s so offensive to deserve the lunacy of this turning into this big of a deal. I don’t think a wing wang was showing, and as much as I enjoy women flaunting whatever it is they bring to the fashion table, I have seen some tops on a lady or three that might offend someone (they definitely didn’t offend me though). Too each there own …as long as its more than pure nudity, a fig leaf, or more than 3 inches of plumbers crack (and that number is arbitrary at best), I think they might spend their time better elsewhere. Perhaps the captain or security personnel forgot to take one of his or her meds. That being said security is a tough job though, it would just be nice to see stories like this and such things as searching babies relegated to history as we become more acutely aware over every little nook and cranny of the world of security. VV Victory and Peace .
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 7:40pm@SINISTA MACE………. Good Lord honey, I haven’t hear about a Zoot Suit since WWII down in East Los Angeles. My mom always said, “ Look at the Zoot Suit with a reet pleat and a stinky seat”
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 7:46pmThe comment about plumbers having their crack showing. I’d just smile and look away because they were working their azzes off supporting a family (most likely) but I loved the comment my hubby made, that, “they might only be plumbers, but they know which way “it” drains(cleaned it up) and they do make good money, and everyone needs them. So show your plumber more respect.
Report Post »Dont-hate-on-me-2
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 8:56pmhe provoked the incounter, just smack his wrist and send him on his way, next time pull your pants up i dont want to see your open for business sign that started in the prison system. Also just because you have rights and may know them doesn’t mean you can break the rules of a private chater or business, let alone refuse to obey an official in thier own plane. The stuff about him resisting i belive but the injurying a police officer i dont, police lie more than the criminals. Im done
Report Post »WeDontNeedNoStinkingBadges
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 10:09pmNo, sorry. TheBlaze’s “College Athlete Arrested at Airport for Saggy Pants” is a true tabloid headline.
He was arrested FOR REFUSING TO LEAVE THE PLANE at the command of the pilot. Now, even that was over-reacting. Escorting off the plane is clearly sufficient. Arrest? More crimes where committed BY his arrest than by sagging (or slipped) pants.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH AMERICANS TODAY? HAVE WE ALL BECOME SOUP-NAZIS? (Don’t answer that. I already know.)
Report Post »Professional Infidel
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 10:22pmI can be as disgusting as I want. and f==k you. if you don’t like it your a rasist. hey dingo head i don’t want to a white a$$ eithor.
Report Post »dnnyshdy
Posted on June 19, 2011 at 10:46pmNo matter how it started,the people that wear the saggy pants think it’s cool and it;s just dumb.If it was started by gays in prison I certainly want to copy that.Kiss,Poison,Motley Crue all dressed for show.Entertainers.I don‘t know why the 80’s rock was like that.That was kind of stupid too.Not all bands did the make-up though,just a few.
Report Post »grandma7
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:01amBlueBonnet,
Report Post »OMGosh. I sure didn’t read this correctly. I see where he was charged with battery. Of course he needed to be arrested and I jumped in too soon. Thanks for alerting me to continue checking!!!! I knew I must have missed something.
ACTS2-38
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 5:35amwell i take offense to this disgusting,unsanitary form of rebellion!! in my town there is a law stating pants/shorts must be worn in an appropriate manner! i see these bums up and down the street during the day and probably to lazy to work but they have to constantly keep on hand holding their pants up!! who the heck wants to walk around all day with that aggrevation…… makes no sense!!!!!
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 10:29amrangerp
I’m not disturbed with seeing naked people.
I’m normal.
Those who are disturbed by the natural state of man, is NOT normal. They’re ABNORMAL.
You have no right to demand that anyone change anything. If you don’t like it, don’t look, don’t go out in public. Because you have NO CONTROL over others. You can only control yourself and your eyes.
Look away.
I don’t know what the hell a “Thug” culture is. Perhaps you’re referring to the Nazi TSA Thugs that are molesting people at the airport?
I’ve heard of Urban culture, hip hop culture… but “thug” culture?
I would think greedy corrupt politicians are the “thug” culture… I would think Presidents going to war without Congressional Approval and violating laws left and right was a “thug” culture.
Why the hell is this even a story… Oh..I know.
Because it’s about black people and minorities in general. Just another red meat story to get RACISTS and BIGOTS all riled up and make sure their anger is fresh for the 2012 election cycle.
Pathetic and obvious.
Comparing baby killers and sodomites with people sagging pants is just ridiculous and abstract garbage.
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 10:38amRangerP
You don’t have ANY SAY over what people wear.
At all.
I don‘t care that you don’t like it. This will end up in court and the Airline WILL LOSE.
You don’t get to discriminate against civilians based on dress.
You have NO CONTROL over what other people wear.
You DO have control over your own eyes. Avert them. Nobody is obligated to assauge your sensitive eyes.
Comparing sodomites and baby killers to “pants sagging” is a ridiculous comparison.
I don’t know what the hell a “thug” culture is. Perhaps you’re referring to the TSA NAZI THUGS that are molesting people at the airport? I’ve heard of hip hop culture…urban culture…but thug culture??
Sounds like something you fabricated.
Perhaps you’re referring to the Shady Politicians stealing our money and robbing veteran pensions and civilian 401Ks….
Perhaps you’re referring to the President going to war without congressional approval and doing whatever the hell he wants, breaking whatever laws he wants…
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 12:34pmI see this as a safety issue. If the people on the plane had to evacuate the plane because of an emergency, Baggy paints might trip on his own clothes and cause the death of other passengers.
Report Post »Clive
Posted on June 20, 2011 at 5:03pm“Marman was released on bail Thursday. Prosecutors have until July 18 to file any charges against him.”
… um, i don’t think you have to worry about that end of it… i think the lawsuit will be coming from this kids attorneys. he sounded respectful, called the dude “sir”, said “i haven’t done anything wrong”. sorry to say it… but if that was a white kid, this probably doesn’t happen.
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