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Read Some of the Best Parts of the New York Times Expose on Obama‘s ’Kill List’

New York Times Article on Obamas Kill List and Evolving Philosophy

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Gay marriage isn’t the only thing the president has “evolved” on. According to an extensive, eight-page expose from the New York Times, Barack Obama has changed his position on killing enemies abroad: the Times goes behind Obama’s expanding “kill list” and how it’s created.

Here are some of the key parts from the lengthy piece (all emphasis added):

[...] Mr. Obama has placed himself at the helm of a top secret “nominations” process to designate terrorists for kill or capture, of which the capture part has become largely theoretical. He had vowed to align the fight against Al Qaeda with American values; the chart, introducing people whose deaths he might soon be asked to order, underscored just what a moral and legal conundrum this could be.

Mr. Obama is the liberal law professor who campaigned against the Iraq war and torture, and then insisted on approving every new name on an expanding “kill list,” poring over terrorist suspects’ biographies on what one official calls the macabre “baseball cards” of an unconventional war. When a rare opportunity for a drone strike at a top terrorist arises — but his family is with him — it is the president who has reserved to himself the final moral calculation.

“He is determined that he will make these decisions about how far and wide these operations will go,” said Thomas E. Donilon, his national security adviser. “His view is that he’s responsible for the position of the United States in the world.” He added, “He’s determined to keep the tether pretty short.”

Nothing else in Mr. Obama’s first term has baffled liberal supporters and confounded conservative critics alike as his aggressive counterterrorism record. His actions have often remained inscrutable, obscured by awkward secrecy rules, polarized political commentary and the president’s own deep reserve.

Later, the Times expands on the nomination process where national security officials sit around and decide who they should recommend to Obama as the next to die:

It is the strangest of bureaucratic rituals: Every week or so, more than 100 members of the government’s sprawling national security apparatus gather, by secure video teleconference, to pore over terrorist suspects’ biographies and recommend to the president who should be the next to die.

This secret “nominations” process is an invention of the Obama administration, a grim debating society that vets the PowerPoint slides bearing the names, aliases and life stories of suspected members of Al Qaeda’s branch in Yemen or its allies in Somalia’s Shabab militia.

The video conferences are run by the Pentagon, which oversees strikes in those countries, and participants do not hesitate to call out a challenge, pressing for the evidence behind accusations of ties to Al Qaeda.

[...]

The nominations go to the White House, where by his own insistence and guided by Mr. Brennan, Mr. Obama must approve any name. He signs off on every strike in Yemen and Somalia and also on the more complex and risky strikes in Pakistan — about a third of the total.

The Times interviewed 36 current and former advisers for its piece, and they painted a picture of someone who has changed:

They describe a paradoxical leader who shunned the legislative deal-making required to close the detention facility at Guantánamo Bay in Cuba, but approves lethal action without hand-wringing. While he was adamant about narrowing the fight and improving relations with the Muslim world, he has followed the metastasizing enemy into new and dangerous lands. When he applies his lawyering skills to counterterrorism, it is usually to enable, not constrain, his ferocious campaign against Al Qaeda — even when it comes to killing an American cleric in Yemen, a decision that Mr. Obama told colleagues was “an easy one.”

There’s a story on how, even from the very beginning, Obama was saying one thing while parsing out words so he could do another:

The day before the executive orders were issued, the C.I.A.’s top lawyer, John A. Rizzo, had called the White House in a panic. The order prohibited the agency from operating detention facilities, closing once and for all the secret overseas “black sites” where interrogators had brutalized terrorist suspects.

“The way this is written, you are going to take us out of the rendition business,” Mr. Rizzo told Gregory B. Craig, Mr. Obama’s White House counsel, referring to the much-criticized practice of grabbing a terrorist suspect abroad and delivering him to another country for interrogation or trial. The problem, Mr. Rizzo explained, was that the C.I.A. sometimes held such suspects for a day or two while awaiting a flight. The order appeared to outlaw that.

Mr. Craig assured him that the new president had no intention of ending rendition — only its abuse, which could lead to American complicity in torture abroad. So a new definition of “detention facility” was inserted, excluding places used to hold people “on a short-term, transitory basis.” Problem solved — and no messy public explanation damped Mr. Obama’s celebration.

“Pragmatism over ideology,” his campaign national security team had advised in a memo in March 2008. It was counsel that only reinforced the president’s instincts.

And if you ever feared the president would try to stretch legal precedent as far as possible to justify action, those fears would be correct:

Sensing vulnerability on both a practical and political level, the president summoned his attorney general, Eric H. Holder Jr., to the White House.

F.B.I. agents had questioned Mr. Abdulmutallab for 50 minutes and gained valuable intelligence before giving him the warning. They had relied on a 1984 case called New York v. Quarles, in which the Supreme Court ruled that statements made by a suspect in response to urgent public safety questions — the case involved the location of a gun — could be introduced into evidence even if the suspect had not been advised of the right to remain silent.

Mr. Obama, who Mr. Holder said misses the legal profession, got into a colloquy with the attorney general. How far, he asked, could Quarles be stretched? Mr. Holder felt that in terrorism cases, the court would allow indefinite questioning on a fairly broad range of subjects.

Satisfied with the edgy new interpretation, Mr. Obama gave his blessing, Mr. Holder recalled.

“Barack Obama believes in options: ‘Maintain my options,’ “ said Jeh C. Johnson, a campaign adviser and now general counsel of the Defense Department.

Another revelation: Obama never devised a plan to close Guantanamo Bay. Instead, he thought that once he cast the vision, everyone would just fall in line and the action would take care of itself:

About four months into his presidency, as Republicans accused him of reckless naïveté on terrorism, Mr. Obama quickly pulled together a speech defending his policies. Standing before the Constitution at the National Archives in Washington, he mentioned Guantánamo 28 times, repeating his campaign pledge to close the prison.

But it was too late, and his defensive tone suggested that Mr. Obama knew it. Though President George W. Bush and Senator John McCain, the 2008 Republican candidate, had supported closing the Guantánamo prison, Republicans in Congress had reversed course and discovered they could use the issue to portray Mr. Obama as soft on terrorism.

Walking out of the Archives, the president turned to his national security adviser at the time, Gen. James L. Jones, and admitted that he had never devised a plan to persuade Congress to shut down the prison.

“We’re never going to make that mistake again,” Mr. Obama told the retired Marine general.

General Jones said the president and his aides had assumed that closing the prison was “a no-brainer — the United States will look good around the world.” The trouble was, he added, “nobody asked, ‘O.K., let’s assume it’s a good idea, how are you going to do this?’ “

It was not only Mr. Obama’s distaste for legislative backslapping and arm-twisting, but also part of a deeper pattern, said an administration official who has watched him closely: the president seemed to have “a sense that if he sketches a vision, it will happen — without his really having thought through the mechanism by which it will happen.”

There’s plenty more worth readying.  Read the entire report from the New York Times here.

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Comments (179)

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  • Evileye
    Posted on May 29, 2012 at 11:46am

    Look for Obumbler to strike Iran in October to try and win the election.
    he will wag the dog tail in an effort to bring his poll numbers up.
    F-35 already deployed to middle east.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 12:08pm

      This article confirms something I’ve long suspected about Obama.
      After ordering Gitmo closed in 2009 (while it not only remains open today in 2012 but a $75K soccer field is being considered there) but preserving Rendition, Obama was left with very few options with high value prisoners. This articles confirms that the “capture” in “kill or capture” has become lower priority because Obama cannot put these prisoners in the best facility for them (Gitmo) and risks bad publicity by having them interrogated overseas. So the policy of “kill over capture” has been implemented. At first glance this article makes Obama appear to be “tough on terrorism” (and one must remember the New York TImes is actively working for Obama’s re-election) he’s “killing the bad guys” but what it really is is a convenient political tool to allow Obama the squirm room to avoid putting these terrorists in Gitmo and being tried in military trials or having bad press leak out from interrogations overseas.

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    • jzs
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 12:45pm

      Maybe my timing is bad, but we just killed the second highest ranking al-Qaida member in Afghanistan.

      Hey, I thought that the military overrode Obama’s objection to killing Bin Laden? How do I square the idea that Obama is killing all these guys and yet at the same time, as Rush says, he loves terrorists and is in fact a secret Muslim? Can both be true?

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 1:08pm

      So by killing the “second highest ranking member of al Qaeda in Afghanistan” JZS..how do we get any information out of him? We certainly avoid putting him in Gitmo though…
      You need better material idiot….

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    • Jaycen
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 1:18pm

      the president seemed to have “a sense that if he sketches a vision, it will happen — without his really having thought through the mechanism by which it will happen.”
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      This is exactly the problem with theoretical academics. From first-hand experience, I can tell you there are a lot of people with precisely this mentality. This is why people like Obama have such a hard time “executing” anything. They don’t have a clue as to how execution happens, so it’s all “magic fairy dust” in their minds.

      You say something, and it becomes…

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 1:21pm

      @jzs
      “Hey, I thought that the military overrode Obama’s objection to killing Bin Laden?”

      No, Obama overrode Biden‘s objection not the military’s ST6.

      “How do I square the idea that Obama is killing all these guys and yet at the same time, as Rush says, he loves terrorists and is in fact a secret Muslim? Can both be true?”

      It’s all about power and precedent; BHO needs to stir up every group he can for his “bottom up, top down, inside out” power grab. He is a Muslim and these killings make his Muslim buddies martyrs with all the 72 virgins, etc. He is trying to make everyone so mad (bottom up) that riots will occur so much that he can declare martial law (top down) and suspend the elections or, if he losses, remain in power.

      Remember, “the ends justify the means” with people like BHO and crew.

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    • okredstate
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 1:23pm

      Attack Iran maybe, but F-35 not deployed anywhere. Can’t do much with two bombs per plane in stealth mode. More like a job for the B-2′s. Go back to Sesame Street now.

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    • Razorhunters
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 1:34pm

      AvengerK,
      that would be 750k for the soccer field

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 1:48pm

      I wonder if BO is on his own Kill List???

      banjarmon  
    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 1:48pm

      JZS, Muslims have been the most efficient killers of Muslims for centuries now. 0bama tends to fit into that mold these days.

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    • jzs
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 1:55pm

      PERP, suddenly you are against killing terrorists. You want them captured. When did you have that change of heart?

      How many American soldiers would you put at risk of being killed to capture one of these guys? Or would you simply let them go when they‘ve been located moving from one secret place to the next because you couldn’t capture them? Maybe you think this is a cop show where they know were the bad guy is and simply bust in and arrest them?

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 2:08pm

      LOL!

      “a $75K soccer field is being considered there,”

      LOL,

      “AvengerK that’s $750K!”

      Some say the actual cost of a considered soccer field could exceed $7.5 Million!

      Some are thinking it might be up to $750 Million. Considered by some.

      I think the potential cost is unlimited, compared to the estimated cost! Consider that.

      POW MIA 2012

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    • cbrown
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 2:32pm

      Obama has decimated Al-Qaeda . Do you think Romney has the balls to do this?

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    • Razorhunters
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 2:36pm

      just the cost of the field…not the before and after.
      750k.

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    • 2smart
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 2:38pm

      Actually JZS, I would leave that decision to the Commander in the field. He is not going to get his men killed but he is best equipped to make the decision quickly and intelligently without the unneeded opinions of REMF’s who have never been in the field but are experts with a mix of worry because a bad decision will hurt there career ladder.

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    • Evileye
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 2:54pm

      F-22 not f-35
      F-22 deployed to Al-Adhara United Arab Republic.

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    • ChiefGeorge
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 3:01pm

      F-22′s for sure…F-35s?

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    • old white guy
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 3:16pm

      is your name on the list? i will take a bet that there are conservative patriots on the list and fewer and fewer islamic terrorists. hells bells i am not a danger to anyone but who knows maybe i am on the list, my real name that is.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 4:06pm

      No JZS..I have no problem with killing terrorists. I have “problem” with “kill above capture” as a policy and why it’s being implemented. Apparently the distinction is lost on an idiot you.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 4:09pm

      MONICNE/ENCINOM/SLEAZY HIPPO you should log in as your “serious” persona “ENCINOM” to bait me over a typographical error, isn’t ENCINOM your angry lefty identity that you like to use over the mocking/passive/aggressive MONICNE?

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    • crazyoz
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 4:28pm

      Right on! As soon as those F-35s were shipped I said look out If Flop Ears is going to lose the election, this is one of his options.

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    • soybomb315
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 4:32pm

      Why are you guys getting excited about this story – Mitt Romney said he would continue the current activites in order to promote national defense

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 5:11pm

      ASpongerK – Can you read?

      BTW, you left MARYBETHELIZABETH out of your bizarre multiple accusation rant this time. LOL

      See ya ‘round! KIT! Okey-dokey!

      POW and MIA, never forget: Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl of Hailey, Idaho

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    • dublinthewagons
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 7:33pm

      Obama doesn’t have the guts to hit Israel. He’s more into killing the unborn.
      He’s not worried about the polls as the dead and illegals are not polled.

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    • teamarcheson
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 9:06pm

      Hitler had a kill list too.

      All demonics like Obama have kill lists. How many millions of Americans are on Obama’s Kill List?

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    • db321
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:15pm

      I went to a High School Ball Game a couple of Weeks ago and we had a moment of Silence instead of the Prayer.

      I KNEW THEN THAT I’M TIRED OF BEING SILENCE – I’M TIRE of this Administration trying to kick GOD OUT OF OUR COUNTY – we are less than a Generation away from losing Memorial Day, Presidents Day, Christmas, Easter and any other Holiday that has anything to do with what is right about America attached to it!

      I’M NOT GOING TO BE SILENT ANY MORE!

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_GOP_IN_12
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 11:24pm

      The Republicans have passed all the bills making this possible.
      Way to go GOP!!!
      Romney 2012

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    • jzs
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 11:43pm

      PERP, you’re soft on terrorism. You think it‘s so easy to capture terrorists that you can’t understand why we’re killing them. I guess you have this idea that when an intelligence source located a bad guy, we should have our guys parachute in, shoot their defenders from the air and then take the bad guy into custody. Perp, this is Afghanistan and this is al-Qaeda. There‘s a reason you’re not making the decisions on these things and it‘s not because you’re too smart.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on May 30, 2012 at 12:41am

      LOL…typical JZS..slink back late at night for a jab when you think your target isn’t around.
      This time you got caught…
      If Obama isn’t making these decisions through a political filter JZS (as I pointed out earlier)..what’s David Axelrod doing at these “kill list” meetings? You know Axelrod? Obama’s campaign strategist? What possible reason does Axelrod have to be at these high level meetings other than making sure he can get this stuff to failing rags like the New York Times?
      “(Axelrod) began showing up at the “Terror Tuesday” meetings, his unspeaking presence a visible reminder of what everyone understood: a successful attack would overwhelm the president’s other aspirations and achievements.”.
      You know why I call you an idiot JZS? Because there’s no other word in the English language that truly encapsulates you more effectively and thoroughly. Idiot.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on May 30, 2012 at 12:48am

      Oh and MONICNE/ENCINOM/SLEAZY HIPPO..it’s only one accusation that you use mulitple screennames. It’s not “multiple accusations” as you bleated. Do try to get it right..after all you‘re the one policing typographical errors aren’t you? There’s a good lefty idiot.

      Unless of course you’re denying that “MONICNE” and “ENCINOM” are the reverse of each other as you intended the screennames to be. I wouldn’t put it past a lefty cur like you to deny it.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on May 30, 2012 at 12:51am

      By the way JZS..how did the Bush administration manage to fill Gitmo with high value prisoners..from Afghanistan.?

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    • poorrichard09
      Posted on May 30, 2012 at 8:10am

      I bet the “Final Solution” evolved something like this.

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on May 30, 2012 at 2:07pm

      Oh, my! Midnight Raider, LOL, looks like the long haired chub finally got a date (maybe with a female) on the internet but it didn’t luck out after meeting at Starbucks, so here the youth is to paTROLL the Blaze after his normal bedtime. Sad little tyke, potty mouth too.

      Can you read? Off you go -Mate! Round now is the time you were a waltzin’ matilda fer me.

      Bleatin in yer best Ozzie TEA outfit, cur

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  • 65Mustang
    Posted on May 29, 2012 at 11:45am

    Sad that the elite media did not report the truth on this POS…I did not and will not vote for the evil dictator-wanna-be.

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    • Baddoggy
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 2:09pm

      I wonder how long it will be for someone who calls the President a POS to be put on that kill list…May I be the first???Please???

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    • Personalforrest
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 5:27pm

      Probably reading and posting on the blaze will qualify you for the list.

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    • TwilightDawn
      Posted on June 17, 2012 at 4:43pm

      I will not vote for the wanna be dictator either. I didn’t vote to put him in there the first time around. I could feel that he was bad news and knew him to be just another liar before he got in to the white house. He isn’t half white/black, he is half White/Muslim, anyone who couldn’t see that needs glasses, I mean tri-focal lenses.

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  • Canada_Goose
    Posted on May 29, 2012 at 11:44am

    The Mossad and Israeli leaders have been doing the same thing for years.
    This is just a page out their playbook.

    You can argue about this policy on it’s merits, but it’s not necessarily new.

    An alternative strategy used by the Bush administration would be to capture these guys and torture them to get either non credible information or information which we already seem to have by other means.

    In my opinion it’s better to send the message to America’s enemies that if you wage asymmetric warfare against the US or if you are in any way complicit in any such activities you will eventually be killed.

    It’s very unambiguous and effective.

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    • toto
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 12:29pm

      Probably a mix of both strategies, get out of them what you can, then execute them. Hard to understand why so many think that drone strikes which kill not only targets, but non targets is more actable and humane. Bush’s interrogations were an absolute necessity given that after 9/11 we had absolutely nothing in place that could tell us if there were more attacks in the pipeline that were an imminent threat. The selective memories of leftists and elitists is appalling considering what they are willing to risk. WE DID NOT START THIS WAR. The ISLAMISTS have not stopped fighting and scheming to bring this country to it’s knees. Bottom line, there is an attitude that Obama has that he will fight violent radical Islam, but has no problem with Islam taking over the world if it done insidiously, using our own western legal systems and media support to establish Sharia in it’s place.

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    • shogun459
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 12:57pm

      We are NOT discussing the merits of killing terrorist, but the the STAR CHAMBER reasoning behind the killings rather than captureing and getting more intel.

      Obama is killing not for military reasons but for POLITICAL advancement.

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    • caveman74
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 1:41pm

      Its amazing how people will breeze over their own objections. When Bush was president and seal 6 was no more than a rumor the left was accusing bush of having this secret seal team as his personal hit squad, and were screaming for Bush to be tried in the world court for war crimes. Obama actually is engaging in those activities and more but now that is just the most prudent way to move forward right? What a bunch of mindless sheep. People with half a brains can see through the male bovine excrement that you people try to pass as intelligence by adding large words that you hardly understand to your statements

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    • Canada_Goose
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 3:41pm

      @TOTO
      You almost sounded sane until you got into the whole Islamist and sharia business.

      @ shogun459
      Your premise is that the public prefers targeted killings over capture and torture is pretty weak although I have not seen any polling on this.

      The US intelligence agencies appear to be picking these guys off without the need for capture and torture, so they are obviously using more high tech surveillance or they have been able to successfully infiltrate the Al Qaida network. In any case someone needs to make the call to hit the target, the commander in chief is the logical choice.

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    • WinstonSmith6079
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 4:30pm

      There are not a few reasonably reliable reports that Bin Laden died years ago! So the “I killed Bin Laden” becomes just a bit of “theatre macabre” to inflate his ego and garner votes. So, who’s to say that his “Kill List” isn’t stuffed with similar dead or nonexistent persons that he will kill for the same purpose?

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  • Gabbie
    Posted on May 29, 2012 at 11:42am

    When he is done with that list and if he gets re-elected, will he then start in on us?

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    • lexington_green
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 1:21pm

      holder agreed to indefinite detention. remember tea party – you have been labeled “terrorists” and “extremists” so their interpretation of these laws can very quickly be extended to american citizens here.

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    • FreedomWerks
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 2:04pm

      If by “us” you mean US citizens, then he’s already started.

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    • Bill Rowland
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 2:36pm

      All you veterans out there remember that Epic Holdup, Fat Janet and Sweet Old Barack have declared you are a prime suspect for terrorism. You have a knowledge of weapons, are familiar with the tactics used to deploy military units. You are used to living with the bare minimum of equipment and under unusual conditions. You are likely to own firerms and practice with them frequently.
      Are all of us going to be on the next list if these a holes get reelected?

      OMG 2012

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  • mikellyusabr
    Posted on May 29, 2012 at 11:34am

    Time to drag out the narcissism analysis again.

    For a narcissist, what greater joy than to be the authoritative final voice in determining whether an unsuspecting person will live or die? And whether the target’s family should join him or her in death?

    Obama is a narcissist. Even his habit of supplying a vision and leaving it 100% up to others to deal with the messy business of making it real–but fully expecting results–is a huge tell.

    Where’s Sam Vaknin when you need him?

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:52pm

      Oh yes, the discussion of narcissistic personality disorder. I still like the original title, megalomania.

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  • crazycat
    Posted on May 29, 2012 at 11:29am

    This man would lead the receipe to CocaCola (supposedly the best kept secret in the world) if it would get hims votes. To leak to the world his hit list to make him look tough and also to tell the world that US Special Forces have gone into North Korea to find tunnels puts them in harms way all so Obama can get votes. This man and his staff should be tried for treason. He is one dangerous man and if only Romeny would take off the gloves and call him the danger he is to our country and it’s future if he is reelected. I fear what damage he can do in the next 7 months even if he does not steal the election which he and Holder and Panetta are expecting to do. Thats my opinion and I do not care if he and his henchmen know it.

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    • toto
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 12:33pm

      Funny, we know a lot more security secrets due to Obama’s Open Mouth policies that we do about his college records and immigration issues.

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    • cbrown
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 2:35pm

      Does Romney has the kahunas to do this? Maybe he can outsource this to Trump.

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    • edmundburk
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:13pm

      Romney is a nutless wonder, you were warned during the primaries, you are warned now. BTW Trump is a brainless gasbag!

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  • olddog
    Posted on May 29, 2012 at 11:28am

    HOW, could people of this country vote for someone they no virtually noting about? And everything they do know is negative. A muslim and a marxist, is that what America has become? We lost our News Media Long Ago, who is pulling their strings and telling them what to say? Please go to
    http://WWW.holdingahammer.com for the best Song in America…

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  • lukerw
    Posted on May 29, 2012 at 11:22am

    WTF… we Elect a President to Manage the Federal Government… based upon his Skill, Intelligence, and Platform… NOT to develop a Plan based upon Changing Ideas and Utopian Ideology!

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  • Best_Patriot
    Posted on May 29, 2012 at 11:20am

    NYT does reporting. The Blaze is like the Cliff’s Notes. So pathetic.

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    • 13th Imam
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 11:47am

      Than what are you doing here. Go look at the pretty pictures in the NY Slimes. “All the News that helps to elect Socialist DEMOCRATS”

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    • Best_Patriot
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 11:58am

      “Than” what am I doing here? Does ****** spelling degrade by the day? No wonder you believe Glenn Beck, you can’t even spell!

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    • 13th Imam
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 12:10pm

      Thanks Saul
      But you missed the spelling of Times, slacker.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 12:17pm

      It’s called a “typo” horsie and gauging by your constant mangling of the English language- I’d keep your criticisms to yourself sport.

      But more importantly when are you finally going to show us your face on the avatar you’ve chosen for yourself? You keep cutting out the horse’s arse. Are you still shy? Is that it junior?

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    • Best_Patriot
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 1:21pm

      @AvengerK, still “trotting” out your one joke, eh? Nothing like “beating a dead horse.” Put some effort into this, slacker.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 5:07pm

      You’re the one who keeps not wanting to appear in the picture horsie. Is it because what‘s coming out of the horse’s arse is the equivalent of your posts?

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on May 29, 2012 at 11:17am

    How many US citizens are on the list for termination here at home? How much blood will America accept of their own people being shed by a POTUS who will use assassination as an means to stay in power as a dictator? How much and how long …

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    • CatB
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 11:41am

      My first though also SNOW .. remember ….

      President Obama: “This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility.”

      President Medvedev: “I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir, and I stand with you.”

      What will he do if he sees himself in late October losing big? …. or God forbid if re-elected by the fools who put him in power in the first place? .. we must not give up .. for the Republic!

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 1:40pm

      @CatB – if he loses here are the logical, historical pattern outcomes of Obama:

      Attempted dictatorship
      Unleash chaos and bloodshed on a massive scale.
      Complete mental collapse into a catatonic state
      Final scorched earth to collapse the economy – default on debt, massive end game regulations in heaps, etc.

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  • rdietz7
    Posted on May 29, 2012 at 11:01am

    I’d love to get my hands on those so called hit list trading cards. Collectors items for sure! I bet they have statistics of the hits on that back of the cards listed like the terrorists batting average.

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  • LukeAppling
    Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:59am

    Wouldn’t it be wonderful if America had a free press that would truthfully expose the mistakes of all politicians? I believed the NYT was truthful years ago but they have gone so far off the bias chart that I no longer read anything by or from them.

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  • Best_Patriot
    Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:59am

    haha, “read some of the best parts,” for all you baggers with no attention span or ability to read a lengthy article. Sheesh!

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  • gentugo
    Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:58am

    Dictators and despots the world over have lists like this. He is following in the footsteps of the worst of them.

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  • NOBALONEY
    Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:47am

    No Vetting Allowed

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  • eternal_vigilance
    Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:43am

    You don’t have to like it, nobody has to approve, you just have to comply. Slight problem, WE WILL NOT COMPLY and NO THEY CAN’T.

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  • Steve28
    Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:42am

    I think maybe his power has gone to his head? Now he’s playing God. I guess instant death is better than tourtore in his book.

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    • CatB
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 11:27am

      “He is determined that he will make these decisions about how far and wide these operations will go,”

      Wow .. so does this include within the United States and citizens? I think we need to know .. is he “rational” or has his extreme narassism gone to God complex .. remember this …

      President Obama: “This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility.”

      President Medvedev: “I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir, and I stand with you.”

      OMG 2012 LIBERTY!

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  • SREGN
    Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:40am

    Is that the list Breitbart was on?

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  • marvlus
    Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:38am

    I remember reading about George Bush when he met his successor (Obama) for the first time, saying “This guy has no clue”. Or something to that effect.

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  • RJJinGadsden
    Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:38am

    Dead men do not say things…that will get under 0bama’s thin skin.

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  • copatriots
    Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:31am

    I wonder when libs are going to figure out they were played by 0. He had his own agenda and will say whatever he has to in order to get their votes. The real question remains: who is he? If he really believes in the dreams of his Muslim father, we are all screwed but especially the gays who support him so blind in their agenda.

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    • loriann12
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 11:05am

      And the takers. communists don’t believe in government assistance. no more welfare checks, food stamps, unemployment insurance, paid vacation, etc. etc. etc. Let him go to the “hood” and hand out carpenter’s tools or some such nonsense and see where it gets him. They don’t want to work, they want a free ride.

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  • EqualJustice
    Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:30am

    Why is it called EVOLVING when it’s Obama and FLIP FLOPPING when it Romney? ahaha Progressives always CONTROL the narrative and the sheeple regurgitate relentlessly.

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  • copatriots
    Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:23am

    Gotta love 0′s logic. Water-boarding, bad. Killing, quite fine.

    Also, I seem to recall 0 wringing his hands over Bin Laden.

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    • 4xeverything
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:43am

      My conspiracy theory is this: He (Obama) is cutting off nonessential parts of the whole. Like cutting off fingers and toes but, leaving the whole intact. If we don’t capture and interogate then the whole stays whole. He is also abiding by the Islamic ideas that when these opperatives are killed while plotting the downfall of the west they will be revered with their 72 virgins and whatnot. Does that make sense? It just seems strange to me. It really just gives me a bad feeling.

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    • copatriots
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:57am

      That’s the thing, 4X, any theory is possible with 0. No one really knows his agenda and those who think they do are the most deceived of all.

      His “easy” decision to kill an American citizen should strike proper fear in all of us.

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    • edmundburk
      Posted on May 29, 2012 at 6:29pm

      With the commander in chief having this amount of power is’nt possible that political enemies could be put on this list? Where’s Romney on this?

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:20am

    I just edited my own comments in order to avoid being put on one of the imposter-in-drag (oops!) imposter – in – chief’s kill list….

    PRAY ON, AMERICA.
    II CHRONICLES 7:14-22

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  • Abraham Young
    Posted on May 29, 2012 at 10:19am

    Wow. Is his title now “Ass-ass-inator in Chief?”

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