Nikki Haley: Obama Admin’s Job-Killing Boeing Decision Is ‘Worst Thing’ For Economy
- Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:29am by
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As you may know, the Obama administration’s National Labor Relations Board is trying to tell the Boeing Company how to run its business. To wit, the NLRB is telling Boeing that it cannot open a plant in business-friendly South Carolina. South Carolina is a right-to-work state, meaning that it has “a law against compulsory union membership” — so is the NLRB retaliating on behalf of labor?
It’s the first time a federal agency has intervened to tell an American company where it can and cannot operate a plant within the U.S. It lays the foundation of a regulatory wall with one express purpose: to prevent the direct competition of right-to-work states with union-shop states.
Libertarian labor expert Richard Epstein delivers some background:
The National Labor Relations Board (“NLRB”) [has filed] unfair labor charges on behalf of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers union against the Boeing Company. Why? Boeing had the audacity to invest $2 billion in a new South Carolina facility where it would assemble its 787 Dreamliner—a job that Boeing assigned to 1000 non-union workers starting this coming July.
Acting NLRB General Counsel, Lafe Solomon, wants that work to be brought back to Washington state and the Portland, Oregon area, where Boeing has its current Dreamliner facilities….
But South Carolina governor Nikki Haley wants to know why Washington should get those jobs instead of South Carolina. (Washington is a union-shop state.) She appeared on Fox and Friends this morning to challenge the NLRB’s complaint against Boeing.
Here is what she said:
For more background on this case—and for more information on the question of whether the NLRB should even exist — check out Epstein’s full piece.
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Comments (358)
SomaliVet
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 12:00pmWe don’t need to take back the prez. We just need to get super majority iin both houses of congress so that any veto Odumba tries can be over ridden with 2/3 majority. then where will he be? Irelavent.
Report Post »Mr. Nice Guy
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 12:28pmHe would still try to make trouble with executive orders. Yes we need to gain control of both houses of Congress. We need the White House also.
Report Post »Steel Awesome
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 12:00pmA see a day in the not-so-far future where admitting you’re part of a union will be a big mistake.
Report Post »pandora
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:59amThis is a bold move by Boeing. More large companies need to follow their lead. Unions are antiques. They need to disappear just like confederate money – worthless!
Report Post »CitizenVetUSA
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 1:14pmThe unions will disappear when the communists take final control of central government as in the 1917 Russian Revolution.
Report Post »rightwingheroes
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:54amIt is absolutely imperative that we vote these people out next year.
The Democrats are over-stepping their authority and it needs to come to an end.
Take back the Senate from Harry the Red next year.
Report Post »chalkdust
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 4:01pmIncluding most republicans. A message needs to be sent to all in congress. Not just the obvious suspects but all of them. The republicans need to understand they cannot co-opt and or side step the peoples movement. Don’t be fooled into voting republican only and all will be fine. I know we can’t do it but I would like to flush all senators out. Even the few that are good men like Jim Demint. We need to crush the machine and the politicians will fall in line
Report Post »jeffdubya
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:53amSomeone needs to sit down with Harry Reid and explain Article 1, Section 8. The NLRB, which he cites as a “check and balance” is nothing more than an unconstitutional agency interfering in the affairs of the free market and doling out political favors for votes. I don’t know which is more disgusting, the act or Reid’s defense of it. These hapless morons don’t have a clue. Welcome to the Communist States of Amerika.
Report Post »IMPEACHBHO
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:52amFREEDOM must always be guarded. Well, the WH is full of thieves that need to be stopped, one way or another.
Report Post »mrclean
Posted on May 14, 2011 at 11:48amA Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty once lost is lost forever. When the People once surrender their share in the Legislature, and their Right of defending the Limitations upon the Government, and of resisting every Encroachment upon them, they can never regain it. – John Adams
Report Post »JohnBirch
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:50amIf this stands, next the GOVT will be telling us where we can & can’t work.
Report Post »azkidd
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 3:21pmDont worry. We all know you are on some kind of government assistance and have probably never held a meaningful job.
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:50amIt’s all part of their(progressives, socialists, present admin.)evil plan–though they can never admit it; it will fail. We will feel pain, but we will beat them. We have real Americans on our side and many are seeing the lies for the first time as well. Evil will fail and We the People will prevail.
Report Post »momprayn
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:47amAs of this post, I’ve only read down to “Danielle” — DITTO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AMEN !!!!! Please pray for those who are the “whistleblowers” trying with impossible odds to get the truth out about how corrupt, deceitful, unpartriotic, despicable this Admin. is — they are trying but we need Divine intervention before the 2012 elections.
Report Post »Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:45amSocialists dictate to you where you can spend your money and how much you can spend.
Communists dictate to you where you can earn your money and how much you can make.
The N.L.R.B. needs to go to H.E.L.L.
Report Post »MHP
Posted on May 14, 2011 at 11:16pmencinom
Do you know there are many gay republicans. Some even pack guns.
http://www.pinkpistols.org
Report Post »I.Gaspar
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:44amIt doesn’t end.
Report Post »Soon they will tell us where we can live, where we can work, and whether we can keep any of our earnings “after taxes”.
Great change, huh?
NOBALONEY
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:44amThe Obama adminisration is destroying free enterprise in america, and the result will be a worker class with an elite ruling class. Our freedoms are being taken from us in a well devised plan, and time is running out.
Report Post »simpleprophecy
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 1:59pmi agree with you, ive said it before and i’ll say it again. e mails, phone calls and tea party rallies is NOT effective with this administration. it is time, we the people demand the fbi or armed forces to begin impeachment proceedings againt this entire administration on the grounds of treason. if thousands marched in every state to the fbi buildings, maybe, just maybe they would get the idea. the congress is supposed to be the main law enforcement of this land, if theyre breaking the law, the fbi should be next in line to save this great country, if they refuse, then its the military, if they pass the buck, well, then its we the people, but when it gets to that, there will be no turning back. does it really need to come to this? the constitution is clear, it is the law of the land. you swore an oath to defend it, a lack of performance puts you in contempt of it as well.
Report Post »Entropy
Posted on May 14, 2011 at 5:37pmPlease. Marching, emailing, calling your congressman is not going to change a thing. There is only one thing that these goons understand.
Report Post »psadie
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:42amI am sick and tired of the government sticking their nose in EVERYTHING. Since when do you tell companies where to expand in the US but you encourage them to go overseas? This is clearly a payback to the unions and if anyone doesn’t believe that then you are a fool. Gone in 2012.
Report Post »Its Gonna Getcha
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:41amObama is like the flawed infommercial people keep falling for.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 1:27pmSomeone needs to make a parody video of Obama as the Shamwow guy, trying to sell his economic plan to the sheeple.
Report Post »Its Gonna Getcha
Posted on May 18, 2011 at 3:36pm@Therightsofbilly – That’s a good skit idea!
Report Post »randy
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:40amAtlas Shrugged ????
Report Post »CitizenVetUSA
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 1:11pmThe book by Ann Rand about 1955 and a recent movie.
Report Post »kapie9969
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:39amI hope they dont declare martial law before the next election,peoples vote and opinions dont seem to matter much to this group in the white house,but of course theyre much smarter than us.
Report Post »old white guy
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 3:22pma declaration of martial law would be the start of the second u.s. civil war.
Report Post »Entropy
Posted on May 14, 2011 at 5:42pmBoy I tell ya, ce2nso6rship is alive and well at the Blaz#e. What a bunch of N@az Is. G#l e33nn is a phoney.
Report Post »Danielle1212
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:37amBoeing should CLOSE up shop in Washington and move the ENTIRE corporation to South Carolina! IS THE NLRB GOING TO TELL CORPORATIONS WHERE AND WHEN THEY CAN LOCATE THEIR BUSINESS? This Administration is so out-of-control and the American public better WAKE UP!!!!!
Report Post »stoptheliesbho
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:45amyou are so right. this kind of interfering from the WH administration is an absolute infringement on the rights of American business owners, small and large. if this is allowed to keep happening, soon we will be told where we can and can‘t worship God and eventually where we can and can’t do anything else without their socialist/communist interference and/or approval.
Report Post »teachermitch32
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 12:31pmSeems this is the beginning of “Atlas Shrugged”…except there is no hiding place for Boeing to go. I’m so glad this is out in the open so that all Constitution loving Americans can see. Keep pushing Boeing! We’re behind you.
Report Post »wboehmer
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:37amObama Administration: union cronyism trumps job creation – simple as that!
Report Post »MrBigBillyB
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:36amYet another example of the Federal Government interfering in States Rights
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:36amUse reverse psychology, oh please Mr. President, don’t let them open a plant in my state, please don’t let that happen.
Report Post »vennoye
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:35amAnyone who thinks this administration cares about jobs is delusional…….it only cares about jobs obtained the way it wants them obtained……….got to pay back those union supporters!!!
Report Post »encinom
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 10:29pmLike the GOP, who has gone after abortion and gay rights but has done nothing about jobs. Name one House bill that addresses the job issue?
Report Post »Nathan-H
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:34amThis is about it.. With Boeing the administration is stepping off the cliff.
Report Post »RodT82721
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:34amWhen you elect a union organizer as President, you should expect to see our laws ignored until they can be changed to benefit the unions. Coming soon – Card Check, we don’t need no stinking elections!
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:33am…and the administration demonizes any corperation that moves it’s operations overseas? Who can blame them?
Report Post »and to the republic
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:46am“worst thing for the economy” Really, from this administration? Oh come on, business friendly BHO doing something that is not good for the economy? Why it would almost appear like he is doing this kind of stuff on purpose, and certainly the POTUS wouldnt do that, would he????
Never in my life have I been filled with more rage towards our govt. My business is dying because of the man child in the WH…
Report Post »Mr. Nice Guy
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:59amLooks like South Carolina has been Baracked, to borrow a phrase from Common. People are going to start needing rectal repair surgery after all these Barackings.
Report Post »azguy90
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:32amI am from the NW, but I am very anti-Union, and the government needs to keep their nose out of this. If Washington/Oregon want the jobs, they can vote to be right to work states too!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:37amThat seems to be the plan …doesn’t it? Kill any and all private sector jobs you can. Working against the American people.
I see a pattern here .
Report Post »IMPEACHBHO
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:46amAn American company should be allowed to choose any State it wants to set up shop in.
FREEDOM people. How many sirens must go off???
Report Post »BIGJAYINPA
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:50amIf you EVER entertained doubts that the Unions and their thugs are firmly in control…lose them now. This is probably their most blatant play to date. When did the unions get the power to DICTATE where a company can locate and create jobs. If this order stands this country is DONE, OVER, FINISHED!!! Stand up now and write, phone call, recall or just plain stand up and SCREAM NO MORE, NO MORE or we are finished as a free people and the dictatorship has begun!!!
Report Post »American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:51amWho the hell do they think they are? Build and open your plant in SC, screw them!
Report Post »encinom
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:52amRight to Work states have the lowest incomes for workers and the highest unemployment rates. Right to Work, is more like right to abuse workers, I just find it funny that workers have the least amount of rights in former slave states.
Report Post »drattastic
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:53amAn illegal president and administration preforming yet another unconstitutional act and we still do nothing.
Report Post »Vickie Dhaene
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:53amI agree. Let the States compete for that Contract fairly. It’s called CAPITALISM
Report Post »expatinontariocanada
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:54amSmells like communist Quebec trying to force Walmart to OPEN a union store there. Walmart said “go pound sand” and Quebec seriously considered suing to force them to open a store. Ok, what’s the operative word in there? COMMUNIST!
Report Post »Trance
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:56amJust amazing. When I first heard the union was claiming Boeing was “retaliating” against their work stoppages by moving a line of work to South Carolina, I was thinking how crazy they were to even try something so ridiculous.
Report Post »chfields62
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 12:01pmObama has no intentions of letting private business do what it supposed to do as they are evil and only unionized companies are allowed to do business. Socialism here we come….2012 can’t get here soon enough………
Report Post »JohnGalt
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 12:05pmThis is just proof that the Federal Government is against American’s and there way of life. Sounds insane, but I have never seen a Government so apposed to it’s own country.
Report Post »waggie
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 12:05pmAs long as they are not breaking any laws, why shouldn’t they be able to move their facility??? This is ridiculous! Last time I looked, we were still in America not the old Soviet Union!
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 12:06pm@encinom
You see, you’re considered an idiot around here for the basic fact that your brain is incapable of over-ruling your bias. To you, politics is the beginning and the end; old-fashioned common sense plays no part. Well, since you must be paid to post here–since no one with any idea of reality and/or sanity that keeps him out of prison or a psych ward–you defeat your own intentions. what the frack is WRONG with you, that you need to be contrary to everything?
My adult children live in SC, and they’re making such a mint there I want to live long enough to be a burden on them. They’re not union. Realistically–who except the weak would want to be union and be forced to give up their hard-earned cash to rich corporate fat cats? Really, Encinom–union heads aren’t part of some cottage industry. They’re rich self-serving selfish corporate fat cats, just like on Wall Street.
So, stuff your ideology for a minute and clear your head and cleanse your liberal palate. You’re not changing a single mind around here, and all your whining and sanctimonious holier-than-thou pontificating goes nowhere.
Clear your head, cleanse your lib palate, then come back to us. Maybe then, and for once, you might be worth something.
Pffft!
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 12:06pmThe unions will be the death of jobs in AMERICA.
Report Post »Business should be able to go any where in the US it wishes, to hire who it wants, to make what will sells!
joseph Fawcett
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 12:07pmThis is why we need to have major changes in DC. We need to get rid of BIG Goverment and they need to stick to protecting our Boarders, wait I mean to say start protecting our boarders and protecting our rights as mandated in the consitution. They need to get out of our lives. We have four levels of Goverment in this country. The Federal Goverment does not need to be anywhere the size and obtrusive as it is. There is no reason for it. Get rid of all these regatory boards and let the states goven themselves, let the County govern the county issues and the towns and city govern the local population. The Federal Government is not doing the job that it is suppose to do and has become a Charity and dictator with assuming power over the states. In our county here in CO. We have just rejected some program that the State wants to force upon us because, (believe this or not) It is a program of the UN, not US the United Nations, that is right the One World Goverment. So, even in this County high up in the Colorado High Country the One World Goverment is reaching in to mandate to us what we can and cannot do. Folks this is real and if you don’t think it effects you, you are being had big time. I would not be suprised if the UN has their hands all over our Federal Goverment and mandating to Obama what he should and shouldn’t do. This is why he seems so out of touch with the Amemerican people. Please watch out the One World Goverment is here!
http://www.josephfawcettart.com western artist
Report Post »drattastic
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 12:09pm@ENCINOM
Report Post »There is some truth to what you posted but the unionized are lazy ,unproductive and suck the life out of private companies. Public sector unions drain the state coffers to the point of insolvency .Like any good parasite a union eventually kill the host . So what is the answer ?It sure isn’t illegal ,unconstitutional interference for the central government.
UpstateNYConservative
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 12:14pm@encinom
And here’s another thing, you useless partisan naysaying twit: The only union job I ever held paid half what my years of experience are worth–because of union scale. And I had to pay a $100 ‘initiation fee’ when my rent was due–no allowance for need to have a roof over my head. It was an automatic deduction, like my taxes, taken by the company under the union contract. I didn’t have the option of installments.
Good thing for me my landlord was kind.
So don’t you ever pontificate here, because you have no idea of why people like me are so ticked off and getting more unhappy every day with people like you.
LSU the other day is something you liberals better take very seriously. Maybe, too, be very afraid of it. Your heyday is coming to a fast close and, unless you back off real fast, it might get ugly.
Report Post »James
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 12:15pmRight To Work States have lowest standard of living, have highest rates of poverty, have lowest real estate values?? Is that right, Encicon, then please explain Detroit, LA and Chicago. Have a nice union day.
Report Post »mikelivi
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 12:18pmThe bottom line is this; union workers are lazy because there is no fear of losing your job, no matter how many times they screw up, are late. blow off work, nothing happens. Unions were once good they are no longer good for this country. Hello Detroit! I rest my case!
Report Post »mikelivi
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 12:21pm@ Encinom, one more query your coward a$$ wont answer, does the federal government have the right to tell a private company where they can and cannot set up shop? This is a yes or no answer, no bloviating please.
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 12:23pm@encinom
Like all liberals, you’re so contrary and messed in the head that, if someone handed you a 20kg bar of pure gold to have free of charge, you‘d complain it’s not shiny enough.
Pfft!
Report Post »the_zazzy
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 12:26pm@UpstateNYConservative – Well said! You were able to articulate what all of us think about ENCINOM. He is a complete and total idiot. I would love to meet him to see what a pathetic life he leads. His mother probably raised him to believe that she would clean his room for him and if he got a bad grade it was the teachers fault. Little ENCINOM could do no wrong and has never had to actually work for anything. It‘s always someone else’s fault.
@ENCINOM – Go take a drive around Detroit. Michigan is not a right-to-work state. Ask the folks there how the union is working out for them. Why are businesses packing up and leaving Michigan? It must be because all the conservative fat cats are driving business out. Michigan is a conservative state right…just like California?? Take your $*#& somewhere else…we’re all sick of you!
Report Post »prepper1776
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 12:27pmwhen will atlas shrug ?
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 12:35pm@prepper1776
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 12:27pm
when will atlas shrug ?
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I think he did, at LSU the other day. Maybe that was an aberration, or maybe it wasn’t. Time will tell.
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@the_zazzy
There isn’t anything a liberal can tell me. I used to be as hardcore lib as I am now Conservative. Experience is what changed me, and seeing what exists in reality has absolutely nothing to do with ideology. Even as a Conservative, I have to keep modifying my views.
Liberals are incapable of that. They tend to do only enough thinking to get the details to conform to their conclusions.
Comically, in a sad way, they actually and truly believe they‘re ’enlightened’ more than you and me could ever be.
Report Post »AOL_REFUGEE
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 12:55pmObama needs to go to hell.
Report Post »lovenfl3
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 12:59pmAnd the liberals blame conservatives for the jobs going over seas. This is a great example showing how it’s the liberals, and their union buddies that are forcing jobs out of the country. Anyone notice what happened to the big 3 auto makers? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLzmWGysBYA Where was Obama’s outrage over the union bonuses that were paid out recently?
Report Post »CitizenVetUSA
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 1:04pmBoeing will have to reconsider the SC location and move the expansion and take the contract to another country such as Cancun Mexico like Avanti Motor Car Co. did in 2006. http://www.avantimotors.com/avantihistory.html
Report Post »jnobfan
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 1:04pmAnother attempt to limit States Rights.
Report Post »I like the fsct that NY is different from Alabama and Washington is diffent from Arizona. Diversity and choice is a wonderful thing. If California doesn’t want gay marraige and NJ does so be it. If the people of Oregon want only union shops so be it. Do we really want New Orleans to be more like Atlanta or Baltimore? Of course not but this is where we are headed with this central government system.
Unix
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 1:05pmOur Marxist-In-Chief has plans for us alright – to make us a Communist nation, we need to either impeach him now (we were given a fake birth cert), or make sure we vote him and ALL of his progressive and liberal minions out in 2012, if we make it that far without the left rising up in revolt, along with illegals, black panthers and muslims!
Report Post »psst
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 1:05pmUpstate to Encinom:
Report Post »“So, stuff your ideology for a minute and clear your head and cleanse your liberal palate. You’re not changing a single mind around here, and all your whining and sanctimonious holier-than-thou pontificating goes nowhere”
—
Um, his/her head is completely clear of everything.
There is absolutely,positively nothing in there.
Just an empty skull.
Patrick in AZ
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 1:11pm@Vickie – it is more than capitalisim, I would call it FREEDOM
Report Post »Timbotim
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 1:16pmI think Boeing should move ALL of it’s facilities to SC! And if the Federales don’t like that, he-LOOOOOO Taiwan!
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 1:17pm@upstatenyconservative
Yup, spot on with your assessments.
And the best part of all is that they don’t even realize that they are being played by their own, so called “leaders”
Come on lefties, click on the link, read the quote from James Carville, then come-on back and tell us what you think.
Or maybe you can tell us what you have been instructed to think.
If you don’t know who Carville is, google it.
http://thinkexist.com/quotation/ideologies-aren-t-all-that-important-what-s/821889.html
Report Post »Secret Squirrel
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 1:21pm..
I got an idea.
Let the federal government take over Boeing.
Then they can build airplanes!
Give the union oh, say 55% share.
Sorry, That’s crazy talk.
Report Post »marybethelizabeth
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 1:22pmCan I Tell You Something?
Report Post »It’s about time the laws of this country were upheld rather than ignored at the whimsy of big business.
Hopefully this is the start of the end of the governmert acting as a servant and facilitator of big business.
It’s a great day for the rule of law and America.
GODSAMERICA
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 1:24pmTell the NLRB to take a flying leap into the nearest sewer where they belong and then their corrupt labot masters can get them out of it themselves!
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 1:32pm@mary
Yes, you can tell me something.
Report Post »Wanna try again?
UpstateNYConservative
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 1:38pm@Therightsofbilly
The libs will say, about the Carville quote, might go like this or any mix thereof:
That’s not what he meant
He was taken out of context
He was Photoshopped
He was both Photoshopped AND taken out of context
He meant something else.
Well, Nixon illegally bombed Cambodia
You only Photoshopped Carville out of context because you’re a racist who hates Obama
You’re trying to indoctrinate kittens against Obama
Did I cover it? *smiling*
Report Post »the_zazzy
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 1:38pmDid ENCINOM go bye-bye? With the ground swell of enthusiasm he started, the little chicken____ doesn’t want to play anymore! Good riddance!
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 1:41pm@marybethelizabeth
And what law might Boeing be violating if it moves a factory into South Carolina?
BTW–since you’re obviously partisan–take a peek at how many liberals get money from Corporations–party affiliation not a factor.
And if you think Planned Parenthood isn’t a private corp, run by rich fat cats like on Wall Street, I recommend you think again. Even if it hurts.
Report Post »123gone
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 1:45pm2012 Vote
Every patriotic American needs to stand up and be counted this time around, because
2012 is going to be a vote for a Capitalist or a Communist United States !!
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 1:48pm@upstatenyconservative
Yes, you pretty much covered it.
Except for the one response I get from libs every time I post that quote.
“Crickets”
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 1:49pm@the_zazzy
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 1:38pm
Did ENCINOM go bye-bye? With the ground swell of enthusiasm he started, the little chicken____ doesn’t want to play anymore! Good riddance!
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Encinom is a drive-by shooter, so to speak. He generally pops in to tweak noses, then runs fer them that hills. In a genuine stand up debate, he’ll fold like a cheap camera. That‘s what happens when you’re paid to be a buttnut instead of having the strength of genuine conviction.
He, and most of the trolls here, come by just to cheese people off. And they actually think they’re doing something for their side! Then they go to the coffee shop and, over $10 lattes, brag among their liberals friends how they ‘stuck it to the racists at The Blaze’.
I see it this this way: The more crap you spew, the less of it you smell; it becomes almost an old friend like that 40-year-old tattered Duke University sweatshirt your wife is dying to get rid of.
Report Post »the_zazzy
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 2:02pm@UPSTATENYCONSERVATIVE:
You, sir, are my new best friend!
Report Post »american1st
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 2:06pmWesley Mouch??
Report Post »KnightHaawk17
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 2:09pmI work for the aforementioned great american company and totally agree. NLRB & obamalamadingdong, needs to keep their nose out of private business decisions. Unions SUCK the life out of companies.
Report Post »DogWithA_Bone
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 2:30pmThese stories make no sense…
Report Post »There is no reason for the govt to get involved…
Job creation is the private sectors part…
The govt’s job is to DEFEND our country!!!
That’s it, no more.
pajamash
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 2:34pmLooks like Haley’s Comet has made an early return. You go girl!
Report Post »sdranger
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 2:49pm@ ENCINOM
You are either stupid or just paid to type your masters talking points. If you did just a little of your own research you would know that you are typing a lie. In fact you probably don’t even know how many states have Right To Work Laws. Hint it’s 22. If you take the unemployment percentage of the ROW states average them out you will come up with 8.08% average unemployment according to the Federal Gov’t. If you take the other 28 states and DC that do not have a ROW law you will come up with 8.43% average unemployment again according to the Federal Gov’t.
So in the end it is all political. The administration is once again using tax dollars to fight for the Unions.
Report Post »ozchambers
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 2:50pmSomebody needs to punch that soft-talking commie right in the eye. There is so much insanity with government interference in business. I can’t believe that our own government; the government of USA has become an enemy of capitalism!
Report Post »Unix
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 3:02pm@marybethelizabeth
Report Post »Posted on May 13, 2011 at 1:22pm
Can I Tell You Something?
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No you cant, because you have no idea what you’re talking about…we work under Captialism and free markets, not Communism (big gov’t), so get an education before you open your mouth and remove all doubt your ignorance!
Lotus503
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 3:06pmSimple. Our Republican Congress needs to defund the NLRB. Let’s see if they have the backbone to do it.
Report Post »old white guy
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 3:08pmi wonder when americans are going to really slam these commies who are screwing up the country. if i ran boeing i would tell them to piss off. it will never withstand a supreme court challenge.
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 3:26pm@old white guy
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 3:08pm
Actually, action was taken just the other day, at LSU. I won‘t claim it’s a trend, but I know outside these pages that people are all kinds of unhappy.
The Left has gone too far, and they know it. Worse for them, they don’t know how to handle.
LSU was a total shock to them. What comes after, if anything, is going to be gravy.
Report Post »chalkdust
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 3:43pm@Encinom
Report Post »I laugh at all the morons who stomp on South Carolina. We have a fairly low unemployment rate overall with some areas much higher. We also boast a much lower cost of living. We also have union jobs here. Companies want to come here for many reasons and lower labor costs are a big factor, but lets not forget lower taxes and less government interference. We like this and we are not abused. The state of South Carolina is one of the few states that still resemble the Republic we had. The irony is that people in the northern states have been moving here for years. They assimilate and live the best life. No snow, no traffic, lower cost of living and still growing. So who is the sucker?
SO WHEN THE UNIONS SUCK ALL COMPANIES AND GOVERNMENTS DRY AND LEAVES YOU HOLDING THE BAG YOU”LL MOVE SOUTH JUST LIKE THE REST.
Jaycen
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 3:51pmencinom
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:52am
Right to Work states have the lowest incomes for workers and the highest unemployment rates. Right to Work, is more like right to abuse workers, I just find it funny that workers have the least amount of rights in former slave states.
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You never start your own thread, Encinom. I wonder why that is. Anyway, I live and work in a Right to Work state. I’m extremely pleased with my pay and employment status. As usual, you back up your statement with 0 facts.
Report Post »cemerius
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 3:53pmWages in right to work states are lower than union states although the cost of living works out just fine!!! So change the SC plant to a different name then “sub-contract” the work!!! Finally after establishing this scenario slowly reduce productions in oregon and Washington state!!!! If this fails? Pack up and move to Canada or Mexico……this seems to be the initiative pushed down by this “man-child” in the White House!!!
Report Post »and to the republic
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 4:14pm@ marybethelizabethmarylisamarietonyarobertsshashagabortammyfaybaker….: You funny. You are a hoot when you post. Thank you for bringing joy and laughter to my life and to this site…
Report Post »M-O-O-N Spells Moon
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 4:30pm@UpstateNYConservative regarding your first reply:
Two things. First, please don’t feed the trolls. :)
Report Post »Second, bravo, very well written response.
JayCee
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 4:39pmBoeing is also relocating 550 jobs from Long Beach, California to Oklahoma City.
Report Post »I wonder if the Obama admin. will try to block that move.
I’m proud that Obama lost in all 77 counties in OK.
encinom
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 4:42pmI am back….
The 22 states with right-to-work laws have lower incomes and reduced wages, on average, compared to free-bargaining states. For example, in 2009, the median weekly earnings of full-time workers in free-bargaining states ($771) was 13.4 percent higher, on average, than in right-to-work states ($680). Similarly, the average annual pay for workers in all industries was 14.1 percent higher in free-bargaining states ($44,707), on average, than in right-to-work states ($39,169).
Fully half of all right-to-work states — 11 out of 22 — have poverty rates over 15 percent. The average poverty rate for all of these states combined is also 15 percent. In contrast, only six of the 28 free-bargaining states have poverty rates over 15 percent, and the average for this group is 12.8 percent.
http://new.bangordailynews.com/2011/02/19/opinion/the-%E2%80%98right-to-work%E2%80%99-%E2%80%93-for-lower-pay/
It is worth knowing that average salaries and incomes are higher in states that are more heavily unionized. Simultaneously, if one insists upon using test scores as a measure of academic performance, it is worth noting that states with unionized work forces perform at a higher level than right to work states, according to studies and analysis. We have known for years that there is a strong correlation between family income and performance on such measurements.
Report Post »http://articles.cnn.com/2011-02-23/opinion/berstein.labor.unions_1_unions-corporations-salaries?_s=PM:OPINIO
Therightsofbilly
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 6:01pm@encinom
Is that the best you could come up with?
A cut and paste job from two opinion pieces from Bangor Maine & CNN?
You couldn’t even write any of it yourself?
It’s ok, we understand, Jimmy has not told you what to think about this yet, so you’re flailing.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 6:31pmCurrent unemployment rate in the Right to “Not” Work state of South Carolina is above the National Average, it is 9.6%
http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=usunemployment&met=unemployment_rate&idim=state:ST450000&dl=en&hl=en&q=south+carolina+unemployment
Of course the kind chrisitians of South Carolina are cutting benefits of the poor, whil egive more money the corporations.
Report Post »http://www.wltx.com/news/article/136436/2/Senate-Makes-Unemployment-Changes
pajamash
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 6:50pmRight to Work states have the lowest incomes for workers and the highest unemployment rates.
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Encinoman – Where in the world do you get your data?!!! Of the ten states with the highest unemployment rate 5 are right to work and 5 are not.
State Right to work Unemployment Rate
Nevada y 13.2
California n 12
Florida y 11.1
Rhode Island n 11
Michigan n 10.3
Kentucky n 10.2
Mississippi y 10.2
Georgia y 10
Oregon n 10
Furthermore, of the states with the lowest unemployment rates 7 are right to work and three are not.
State Right to work Unemployment Rate
Hawaii n 6.3
Virginia y 6.3
Wyoming y 6.2
Iowa y 6.1
Oklahoma y 6.1
Vermont n 5.4
New Hampshire n 5.2
South Dakota y 4.9
Nebraska y 4.2
North Dakota y 3.6
Again Encinoman, where do you get your data from?
Report Post »pajamash
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 6:55pmEncinoman – Here is where I obtained the data:
http://www.bls.gov/lau/
Report Post »http://www.nrtw.org/rtws.htm
We Are Not Alone
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 8:05pmNo surprise here…. they don’t have any problem sending any jobs to China…..
Report Post »seeker9
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 8:05pm@pajamash
I think encino is a plant from one of the progressive orgs (center for american progress, moveon, or the like). One of their favorite tactics is cherry picking data points.Could be out of date, out of context, or even data from another prog org. Sort of like the unemployment rate – they never mention the 5-6% rate from the bulk of the Bush years. The next favorite tactic is the word game – overseas contingecy operation, kinetic military action… I say there is a severe credibility gap emmerging.
Report Post »IAMINFORMED
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 8:30pm@ Encinom
I find you very disgusting. You would have the government hold a gun to my head and force me to pay what? $10, $20, $40, a heck, lets just make minimum wage $100 per hour. When you are done forcing every business and job out of America (including your’s) and we all are homeless, what will you have to say then? GET THE F OUT OF MY COUNTRY!
The alternative is a war. We the people are going to have to fight another civil war. It will put all of our wars to shame, but in the end, we conservatives will win and take this great country back from you pigs that are destroying currently.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 8:54pm“but in the end, we conservatives will win and take this great country back from you pigs that are destroying currently”
Right….and afterwards you would hand over the country to your corporate masters and go on to be good little serfs for the Koch brothers. I am standing with those that are standing for the rights of american citizens against the greed of the few that would enslave us.
Report Post »seeker9
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 10:17pm@encinom
Like you serve Master Soros? What exactly is he – corporate, government, slave owner? And it’s the Koch brothers again. That is about as lame as your data. How much has Goldman Sachs, now one of the most hated names on Wall St, donated to the Dems? Enough for a lot of them to get jobs with this administration. Please.
Report Post »Czar Casm
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 10:24pmHate feeding trolls but, encinom, you need to seriously think things through. You are being duped. Why are people, not just companies, fleeing forced unionized states? It was mentioned earlier how the union worker is nothing more than a cash cow for fat cat union bosses. The unfortunate union worker not only has federal taxes witheld to pay for the D.C. fat cat in the federal government (and state government in some cases) but he has to have another tax witheld (union dues) to pay for the union fat cats and the shadow government they are currently setting up.
Report Post »Unfortunately, union members, just like 1/2 of our population, have been duped into thinking we’ve got to rely on these fat cats or the boogie man (insert the devisive issue politicians keep fostering here) is going to get us.
Boeingworker
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 10:25pmI am a Boeing worker- and I DO NOT like the union. The union is a complete farce! Boeing is building the 787 in S. Carolina out of a great need to fill the orders that it has. I’m really kind of conflicted though- I wish for all my countrymen to benefit from the success that Boeing is having- BUT WHY ISN’T ANYBODY talking about the FACT that Boeing is moving 60% of it’s production to CHINA! Does anybody else see a problem with this?
Report Post »encinom
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 10:26pmseeker9
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 8:05pm
@pajamash
I think encino is a plant from one of the progressive orgs (center for american progress, moveon, or the like). One of their favorite tactics is cherry picking data points.Could be out of date, out of context, or even data from another prog org. Sort of like the unemployment rate – they never mention the 5-6% rate from the bulk of the Bush years. The next favorite tactic is the word game – overseas contingecy operation, kinetic military action… I say there is a severe credibility gap emmerging.
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pajamash is citing to corporate front groups like the Right To Work Org. and I am cherry picking data. Iam sorry if the Bush tax cuts were going ot create jobs why di dthe unemployment rate increase every year since the welfare for the rich was past?
UpstateNYConservative
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 10:59pm@encinom
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 8:54pm
You libs are no less beholding to corporations than anyone you idiots claim against anyone else. What–do you really think the Left is squeaky clean? Is your rapper type guy Common making money through a cottage industry run out of his living room?
Save your breath, Encinom. Your crap isn’t getting anywhere with us. While it might feel cute to you, no one here is being paid by the Koch brothers for their opinions. Do you seriously think every here is somehow connected to Wall Street?
Get a real life, gain some genuine experience. Anyone can copy-paste numbers. When you finally get your lame carcass out in the real world (coffee shops don’t count as the real world) and actually talk to working Americans, you’re going to not only be terrified at what you hear but maybe come away from the political Left.
Pffft!
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:10pm@encinom
You might see yourself as an innovator, somehow exceptional in your own eyes.
Realistically, though, you’re just another cookie-cutter dime-a-dozen liberal. Everything you might present is from a handbook from which every one of us has heard before. If it didn’t work 50 years ago, what makes you think your tired trite lines will work today?
Encinom—seriously—your huge but fragile ego isn’t going to change a thing, no matter how much you harp on us. I know you like to think that you matter in the real world, but life itself is one going to come as a major shock to you.
I hope I’ll be seeing, in person, your implosion. I always enjoy good comedy sketches!
Report Post »seeker9
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:14pm@encinom
There you go again. The unemployment numbers are released first Friday of every month, so you find a measurement period to fit your assertion, yearly and you probably cherry picked the month too. Unemployment for the bulk of the Bush years was 5-6%. Slight variations are an abberration as 5-6% is considered to be full employment. What exactly IS your claim, we need higher taxes so that unemployment rate will go down? Welfare for the rich? It is their money! Letting them keep what is theirs IS NOT welfare!
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:16pmencinom wrote:
“I am standing with those that are standing for the rights of american citizens against the greed of the few that would enslave us”
Let us know which deserted street corner of Detroit you will “standing” on.
Report Post »We’ll send you CARE package.
Therightsofbilly
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:18pmEdit above to read……..will be “standing” on
Report Post »wildbill_b
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:36pm@Encinom
You certainly do have the “right to work” It is called pursuit of happiness. And if you get off your fat lazy ass, work hard you will have a job.
No one owes you anything. You are NOT entitled to a job. You are suffering from utter benighted ignorance and are the worse enemy of this republic. Addler v US
Report Post »TruthLover
Posted on May 13, 2011 at 11:46pmOk, no problem. They’ll just go to Mexico. YOU STUPID WASHINGTON WINGNUTS! The unions run the president. Solidarity baby. All the way to unemployment. IDIOTS.
Report Post »Partygirl
Posted on May 14, 2011 at 12:51amWho does the gov think they are? This is a private company and should be able to build, hire people and set up shop where ever they want. What is next the govenment telling us where we can live?
Report Post »sandrunner
Posted on May 14, 2011 at 6:27amSounds to me a government monopoly. I think we need to break-up the government monopoly into fifty states.
Report Post »mikem1969
Posted on May 14, 2011 at 10:50amThis truly sucks yet again the federal government poking its nose where it does not belong. The libs and progressives can’t stand non-union states and are trying to punish them, so the obama terrorist admin is attacking them by stealing jobs from people that need them. I was planning on applying there so me and my wife could move closer to her parents in aiken sc but now I am going to have to wait and see what happens. NO GOVERNMENT ENTITIY SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL ANY BUSINESS WHERE IT CAN AND CAN’T DO BUSINESS UNLESS THE BUSINESS IS ILLEGAL.
Report Post »kraphtsman
Posted on May 14, 2011 at 11:11amALL states should enact Right To Work legislation. There is NOT ONE state having mandatory union membership (and FORCED dues) that is not bankrupt. Also, (contrary to the myths espoused by ignorant union-stooges, like Encinom), unemployment is HIGHER in virtually all the states with forced unionism, and unemployment is actually MUCH higher in them than Right To Work states, as well. You can check out the latest Bureau of Labor Statistics report on this exact topic, if you want.
Boeing should simply tell the NLRB to go to hell, close ALL their plants in Washingtron and move their entire production to Right To Work states the first opportunity they get. This adminstration is adopting the same fascist policies Himmler used to control the economy in Germany under Adolph Hitler. Too bad we need to suffer under OUR little dictator and his cabinet full of socialist goons another 19 months……..
Report Post »BoiseBaked
Posted on May 14, 2011 at 11:41amWho is John Galt?
Report Post »Ron Morris
Posted on May 14, 2011 at 5:08pmRemember America, Barack Hussein Obama and The unions are in bed together,Trumka the union boss,
is at the WhiteHouse 2-3 time a week,but Obama says that the WhiteHouse has nothing to do with running the unions!!!! (Why does Trumka come to the WhiteHouse after dark)?????
How many Millions did Trumka give to get Dictator Barack Hussein Obama elected!!!
Trumka has his own bedroom in the WhiteHouse!!!
Obama and his complete Mexican-Muslim Loving Administration must be stopped,The complete Administration is nothing but a bunch of MORONS,thet are out to destroy our America!!!!
WE THE PEOPLE,Must IMPEACH this DICTATOR,he is KILLING OUR AMERICA!!!!
If you want to live in a Marxist,Socialist,Communist,“OPEN SOCIETY”–“NEW WORLD ORDER”,
Report Post »Re-elect this Dictator and that is what you will have!!!!
Faith_Grace
Posted on May 14, 2011 at 6:24pmRight to Work states have the lowest incomes for workers and the highest unemployment rates. Right to Work, is more like right to abuse workers, I just find it funny that workers have the least amount of rights in former slave states.
I beg to differ…you don’t know your facts…Oklahoma is a RIGHT TO WORK STATE and our unemployment as of March 2011 was at a 6.1% compared to a National average high at 8.8%.
Report Post »Let’s see Ohio is NOT a RIGHT TO WORK STATE….and as of March 2011 their unemployment rate was 8.9%. WOW…higher than the national average…REALLY….bet those Unions are really fighting for those peoples jobs…
MHP
Posted on May 14, 2011 at 9:30pmencinom
You’re wrong on this one. My state is right to work, and we have the lowest unemployment rate in the whole country.
True our wages are somewhat less than union shops, but living here is much cheaper too than in a unionized city. Seattle being a prime example. Poor people cannot live in unionized cities.
The oil fields are booming too, starting wages on a rig are about $35 an hour, average.
And all the oil fields are non union.
So encinom, keep on paying your high rent. My rent is $375/ per month for a 1 bedroom apt, and the landlord pays for Cable TV and all utilities.
Report Post »MHP
Posted on May 14, 2011 at 10:08pmencinom
I do back the unions, long as they are not allowed to donate to politicians, political causes, same for corporations.
I worked security @ Port of Seattle at several sites, one of which was pier 91.
One day the Port hired non union vendors to come in and worked the site.
the union walked out on strike, and told the port they would not return unless the non union vendors were removed from the site.
Well the vendor threatened to sue the union and the port, over violation of their work rights at a government taxpayer site, so the union was forced to allow the vendor to come back and the port was forced to erect and pay for a non union gate and the union was allowed to picket, but they could not deny entrance to a non union vendor. I worked that gate for 12 hours and bullshitteth with the union picketers the whole 12 hours, while collecting strike pay, which was more money. The whole 12 hours I was there, the vendor never showed up, so I sat on my butt the whole 12 hours BSing with the union guys, and we all had a blast.
When we work strikes, we get more money.
If they want to prevent scabs from crossing their one single gate, fine with me.
I was also in the Seattle WTO riots, and did march with the unions, who 40% vote republican regularly, then I went home and taped the violence for the next 4 days, 30 hours of tapes.
Report Post »Company wanted me to work in the area of the violence, I refused, which I had the right to do.
My first job is to protect my home. 2nd is
Dominican
Posted on May 15, 2011 at 12:28amSo The Obama administration is building THE BERLIN WALL around Washington, so no bussiness can leave unless the UNIONS aprove????
Report Post »thebarbarian
Posted on May 15, 2011 at 12:28ambring out that socialist mop. oand the left attacks us the US when we state the obvious: they are marxist. how much more proof is needed? what are the individuals doing? makeing calls, talking to our so called representatives, or writing until you see the DR. about the seriousness of your writers cramp? ok, maybe not so far as the writers cramp thing but i think they need to here from us a lot.
save our country and tear down a marxist.
question: if ovomit takes his administration on a cruise for one of those luxurios(i mean sparse) summit meetings and it sinks in the middle or the ocean, who gets saved?
answer:AMERICA
Report Post »betterthantv
Posted on May 15, 2011 at 12:08pm@UPSTATE From all of us here on the Blaze. THANK YOU! While I just ignore the trolls. You absolutely handed it to ENCINOM! Very well put.
Report Post »shoulda coulda woulda
Posted on May 16, 2011 at 1:52amEncinoman go back to the time you came from. Do I trust big business no, but right now I trust the government less. You are so clearly big government, what do you think will happen to your liberties when the Govt has control. You “Americans” will be standing there hang dog wishing you had a chance to go back.
Report Post »Remember if business gets out of control we have the govt, if govt gets out of control “who you gonna call”