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Nine Year Old Counter-Protester Takes on Westboro Baptist Church

Prior to this story, we could have easily accused the Westboro Baptist Church of having all the maturity of a nine-year-old schoolyard bully.

Except, as we now see, that’s an insult to nine-year-olds. Witness this photo of nine-year-old Josef Miles, of Topeka, KS, staging a one-man anti-Westboro counter-protest, courtesy of Gawker:

9 Year Old Josef Miles Succeeds in Making Westboro Baptist Church Look Stupid With Handwritten Counter Protest Sign

Well played, kid

The Augusta Chronicle brings us backstory on the incident:

The way Patty Akrouche tells the story, her Mother’s Day gift arrived a day early Saturday when her young son mounted a quiet counter-protest to the pickets of the Westboro Baptist Church.[...]

After reading WBC signs proclaiming God’s hatred for homosexuals and other assorted groups, Josef asked Akrouche if he could create his own sign proclaiming his different view of God’s outlook.

His sign, written in pencil on a small sketchpad, read simply, “God Hates No One.”

And from his mother’s facebook comment about the incident:

I have never been prouder. Those people are scary but he stood strong, was respectful and stood by his convictions. He will be a good man, I have no doubt. I got my Mothers Day present early.

So hats off to Josef for putting these freaks in their place. Just one more piece of evidence that they will have precisely zero effect on anything.

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  • spirited
    Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:41pm

    There is hope.

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    • jhaydeng
      Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:51pm

      I know it wouldn’t have been right, but it would have been classic to see this kid holding this sign while he’s giving that pastey white dude the finger!

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    • phillipwgirard
      Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:52pm

      Proud of that kid,

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on May 17, 2012 at 9:00pm

      As they say, out of the mout of babes comes the truth of the world. God does love everyone, he cannot abide some of the deeds we do and words we say; hence love the sinner but not the sin. I am glad to see so many taking a stand against the madness of Westboroughs deeds.

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    • Twisted Mind
      Posted on May 17, 2012 at 9:36pm

      Psalm 5:5 The foolish shall not stand inthy sight: Thou hatest all workers of iniquity. No where in the Bible does it say that God loves everybody

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    • pickupyurcross
      Posted on May 17, 2012 at 10:09pm

      @ Twisted…Except of course where it says, “But God so loved the world (meaning everyone) that He gave His only begotten son that whosever believes in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn it, but that through Him, it might be saved.” John 3:16-17. By memory, so I apologize if I got some of the words incorrect.

      Or, if that one isn’t good enough for you, we could try Romans 5:8 “But God showed His great love for us by sending Christ to die for us while we were still sinners.”

      I’d give you more but these are just a couple off the top of my head that I remember. If it so tickles your fancy I can get back to you with more examples.

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    • FreedomPurveyor
      Posted on May 17, 2012 at 11:10pm

      The headline should be:

      “9 year old boy feeds the trolls”

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    • Maji
      Posted on May 17, 2012 at 11:46pm

      That kid’s cool.
      He’s got the facial expression and all.
      Thats funny.

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    • CultureWarriors
      Posted on May 18, 2012 at 12:31am

      The article is incorrect. It should read Nine Year Old Counter-Protester Takes on The Democrat Hate Group Westboro Baptist Church. Yes, Fred Phelps the leader of and his parishioners are life long members of the Democrat party. Fred has run for political office MANY times as a Democrat, even receiving support and endorsement from none other that Al Gore! BLAZE – Please correct the title!

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    • adeleeeee
      Posted on May 18, 2012 at 1:46am

      G-d does hate sin and sinners. Let’s make it straight. It is a grace period before the judgement day. When the Day come, HE will show us how HE hates sinners by throwing them with angles of evil into the LAKE of FIRE.

      This is no joke. Westboro Baptist Church is right on Homosexual issue with wrong “tactic.” The boy is right on the Love of G-d but could be easily misunderstood and misused by the opposite side.

      G-d hates sinner! However, thank G-d, HE gave us antidote of sins; that is, JESUS CHRIST.

      adeleeeee  
    • RaiderforFreedom
      Posted on May 18, 2012 at 2:05am

      @Adeleeeee… Go read through the Bible; PLEASE. NEVER does it say in God’s word (not once) that God HATES people. It says He distributes and pours out wrath, but NOT that He hates someone. The fact that you say God HATES sinners is one of the most asinine, ignorant comments one could make about God. God hates SIN, not SINNERS.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on May 18, 2012 at 2:35am

      HOPE… is a BELIEF… that is Not Acted Upon!

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    • lukerw
      Posted on May 18, 2012 at 5:09am

      @GOLDLINE…
      According to ACT… Paul meets BarJesus (meaning SonOf Jesus)… and the Gospel of John, cites the BeLoved Disciple (Mary), Christ lived & died… alike a Man!

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    • adeleeeee
      Posted on May 18, 2012 at 5:10am

      If G-D doesn’t hate sinner why there is HELL? We have to respect the fact that G-D will create HELL when the DAY of judgement comes. We haven’t saved yet but on the path of salvation. It is possible to fall from grace and not all the people will be saved. You really have to understand that. No repent, no salvation. G-D will put HIS ultimate judgement to the sinners. So G-D hates sinners.

      We have to understand the Scripture by words not sentiment. I am a sinner and fortunately I found antidote of sin, Jesus.

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    • escape_from_socialism
      Posted on May 18, 2012 at 7:12am

      Nobody check this little dude’s T-shirt?
      Yalla Vote is Arab organization in US. Check it out your self.

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    • nelbert
      Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:15am

      ESCAPE_FROM_SOCIALISM wrote

      “Nobody check this little dude’s T-shirt? Yalla Vote is Arab organization in US. Check it out your self.”

      ———————————–

      So?

      Is that supposed to negate this boy’s rather noble message?

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    • RRFlyer
      Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:38am

      God (with an “O”) does NOT hate sinners. God hates the sin. God hates no one.
      And why are you afraid of saying “GOD”?
      Whenever the Bible mentions “GOD” that is the way it is spelt.

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    • muddpuddle
      Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:47am

      He was just looking for something to do since his lemonade stand was shut down….

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    • Right wing nut job
      Posted on May 18, 2012 at 9:19am

      ADAEEEE, You aksed “why is there a hell”. This confuses me since you delete the “o” from G-d as if you were a Jew. The deletion of the “o” comes from the rabbis not the Torah. Jews do not believe in the Xtian concept of hell. There is no reference to a burning lake of fire anywhere in the Hebrew scriptures. In your english translation you will see the word “hell” appear but in the original Hebrew the word is “sheol” which means pit or grave, nothing more. Seems you may be a little confused and piecing two different religions together to make something new. Either be a Jew or a Xtian, don‘t try to be both because they don’t mix that way. Sorry, not trying to be trollish, just expressing a view. I’ll get off of my soapbox now. This is America! You’re free to believe anything want!

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    • JRook
      Posted on May 18, 2012 at 9:55am

      Lack maturity… are you kidding that’s the best criticism you can levy on the wackos at Westboro Baptist Church. The A holes from the Westboro Baptist church protested at the funerals of the kids who were killed in Chardon Ohio and military funerals. There is a special place in Hell for anyone who promotes their own beliefs and interpretations of God’s intent or wishes. Evidently the Hell’s Angels follow the Westboro group around now and disrupts their lunacy. Let‘s hope the Hell’s Angels begin taking them out one at a time so they can enjoy there spot in hell. Your slant is akin to Romney’s careful rebukes of similar groups, statements and reactions. Let’s be careful not to get on the wrong side of the angry mob.

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    • TxAg11
      Posted on May 18, 2012 at 10:41am

      Someone needs to set up a scholarship account for this kid… I’d help pay for his college.

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    • escape_from_socialism
      Posted on May 18, 2012 at 11:05am

      nelbert,

      I just simply read pointing out, for me is not so “Nine Year Old Counter-Protester Takes on Westboro Baptist Church”.
      Boy is wearing T-shirt with Yalla Vote, which operates here in US, and is connected to Muslim Brotherhood.
      Why? Just asking, why this boy is wearing that T-shirt.
      So far I have not hear, Westboro Baptist Church stoned any gay, to the contrary Arab countries do this all the time.

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    • Cesium
      Posted on May 18, 2012 at 12:31pm

      He’s right! God hates no one! Last I checked I never saw hate coming from something that doesn’t exist

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    • deeberj
      Posted on May 18, 2012 at 1:07pm

      RRFlyer
      “Whenever the Bible mentions “GOD” that is the way it is spelt.”

      Oh, come on. You aren’t serious? God is spelled God in our English version of the bible, which isn‘t the original version and God isn’t His original Hebrew name. So don’t get your panties bunched.

      The Jewish religion does not allow a person to spell G-d out because the written name of God (specifially the Hebrew name of God but some do it with the English name) cannot be erased or destroyed. If they spell it out in writing like here, it is likely to be destroyed. This is out of respect and reverence. Not because the poster is some sort of freak.

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    • Twisted Mind
      Posted on May 18, 2012 at 8:21pm

      pickupyourcross The quotes you gave “ GOD so loved the world that he gave his own begotten son” and the other one is collective not individually. Malachi 1:2-3 GOD said I loved Jacob and I hated Esau.Proverbs 6:16-19 These six things doth the Lord hate,A proud look-lting tongue-hands t5hat shed innocent blood-wicked imaginations- feet that run to mischief- a FALSE WITNESS that speaketh lies-HE that soweth discord among brethern.

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    • mike_trivisonno
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 9:25am

      “…The article is incorrect. It should read Nine Year Old Counter-Protester Takes on The Democrat Hate Group Westboro Baptist Church….”

      Which serves as more evidence supporting the notion that the “homosexual agenda”, “the war on women”, “the war on obesity”, “the Jewish problem”, “the Catholic problem”, “the War on Christmas”, etc. are tools of division and do not exist in reality. They are the communist goals, the communist agenda, the communist desires painted as big, fat targets on the backs of minority groups. They paint the targets, whip up the “controversy”, sit back, and watch as the offended gleefully do the shooting for them.

      Better to look at those who are painting the targets.

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    • EPH208
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 10:27am

      @twistedmind- You speak correctly and I Agree!
      @raiderforfreedom: “NEVER does it say in God’s word (not once) that God HATES people”.
      >>> You might want to use a concordance and get your facts straight before making such statements.
      *******************
      Rom 9:11-13: For [the children] being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. (Malachi 1:2-3)
      {“Love”- 1 Jn 5:6; 2 Jn 6 >>>> Ps 147:19-20}

      Ps 5:5- thou hatest all workers of iniquity.
      Ps 11:5- The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

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    • EPH208
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 11:10am

      Note: that if we can show God hates some people (Rom 9:13; Mal 9:13; Ps 5:5, 11:5), then it is also true then that God does NOT “love” Everybody (2 Jn 6 >> Ps 147:19-20).

      Who gets eternal life (from Jn 3.16)??
      John 10:27-29: Jesus himself said, “My sheep, My Father, which gave [them] me, I give unto THEM eternal life”.
      I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine. Jn 17:9

      Goats are going to hell.
      We are his workmanship. Eph 2:10
      Hath not the potter the power over the clay of the same lump, to make one a vessel of honor, and another a vessel of dishonor? Rom 9:21
      God having endured the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction. Rom 9:22
      Natural brute beasts made (genea-born) to be taken and destroyed. II Pet 2:12
      men before of old ordained to condemnation. Jude 4
      friends of the world is the enemy of God. James 4:4

      Of his own will begat he us. James 1:18, John 1:11-13, [Rom 8:29-30]
      Faith is the gift of God. Eph 2:8
      Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will. Eph 1:4-5
      if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye b@$t@rd$, and not sons.
      Heb 12:8

      Prov 20:12- The hearing ear, and the seeing eye, the LORD hath made even both of them.
      THY will be done.

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    • Constantine Ivanov
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 4:34pm

      @PICKUPYURCROSS:
      ““But God so loved the world (meaning everyone)…..”
      Hmmmm.
      Except when God annihilated cities, towns, tribes, nations, and the entire world (remember the Flood?).
      Except when God allowed Bolsheviks to murder Dozens of Millions.
      Except when God allowed Hitler to murder Dozens of Millions.
      Except when God allowed Mao to murder Dozens of Millions.
      Except when God allowed Pol Pot to murder Dozens of Millions…..

      It seems God always had very changeable, fickle mood.

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    • Constantine Ivanov
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 4:45pm

      @Constantine Ivanov:
      Sorry for my mistake:
      “Except when God allowed Pol Pot to murder Dozens of Millions…..” is wrong:
      “only” 2 to 3 Million

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    • Bluebonnet
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 9:11pm

      Takes a child to show them the way. Too bad that group can call themselves Christians and say the hateful things about others the way they do. After, it is GOD who decides what happens, not them.

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    • Amos37
      Posted on May 19, 2012 at 11:44pm

      God does love everyone, especially Satan and his fallen angels. oh wait…

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  • snufy
    Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:36pm

    I love it! This young person props up my faith in kids. Not all of them are drinking the KoolAid.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on May 18, 2012 at 12:03am

      “Satan goes to and fro upon the Earth” (Job)… so GOD loved Satan so much that HE gave Satan the Earth & it’s people… to harm, torture, and kill?

      lukerw  
    • Bruce P.
      Posted on May 18, 2012 at 1:41am

      LUKERW — Of course God loves Satan. Why would a boss hate his employee?

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    • lukerw
      Posted on May 18, 2012 at 5:16am

      @BRUCE…
      Show me Satan… and I’ll show you Heaven! Satan… is a Manifestation of the Evil in Man (walking upon the Earth), resulting in Empires of Evil that Tax & Destroy. Man is simply… Good & Evil… and GOD loves the Good & hates the Evil! So, it is said: GOD made us in his Image!

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    • VRW Conspirator
      Posted on May 18, 2012 at 12:31pm

      @Luke

      Satan is an anglicized version of the Hebrew word for “adversary” or “accuser”…basically the DA of Heaven…well he is a lot more but we are just going by the words meaning here….Jesus Christ would be the best Defense Attorney in the Universe…God would be the Judge and well, is the Judge, Creator, Father, and Lord of the Universe…but again…that is a side note…

      Satan was simply a device…a term…used to describe that on the Day of Judgement when all mankind has to atone for their sins against God…there will be an entity, angel, whatever…that recounts all of your sins to God out of the Book of Life that you write every second of every day you live…

      Satan is often confused with Lucifer, the Evening Star, 1st among God’s angelic host of assistants, all created by God, out of God’s Word, and ever present with God. They are His messengers, workers of miracles, and they carry out His commands without question or exception.

      Now many will bring up Lucifer’s “fall” from heaven due to challenging God on putting mankind above the angelic host, giving us a soul, and giving us the ability of FREE WILL, the greatest of God’s gifts. That means not only do we get to be with God for all eternity but we can chart our own course while on Earth. Many would say Lucifer’s “fall” means God is not in control.. WRONG! There is a simple phrase a learned many years ago from a wise man…

      GOD ALLOWED…

      we don’t know why or the plan for it..bu

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    • Cesium
      Posted on May 18, 2012 at 12:32pm

      Kid has a nice muslim T-shirt

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  • Akridgerunner
    Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:33pm

    Good on this kid!! I love the part where he was ‘respectful and stood by his convictions’. It really doesn’t get any better than that. Mom: he is already a good man in my book and you should be very proud of him.

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  • godhatesacoward
    Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:33pm

    Josef is no coward!

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  • dal743
    Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:30pm

    Notice the IDIOTS supporter turning and hiding his face, while Josef proudly faces the camera……….hmmmm

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    • Bowlz
      Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:41pm

      That was my first thought. The other kid‘s posture was one of shame and it’s sad that adults do that to these kids.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:42pm

      They were just trying to show their best side. Plus, they believe the camera will steal their soul.

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  • Magyar
    Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:29pm

    Way to go Josef…stand with the LORD— Shorter Univ, St Francis Xavier..now we need millions more to step up and shut these vile organizations DOWN!

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  • BigDaddyTex
    Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:28pm

    “He will be a good man, I have no doubt.”

    Indeed!

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  • doxyonr
    Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:24pm

    Good for you kid! Excellent!

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  • GSX
    Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:21pm

    It doesn’t get any better than that!!!

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  • bitterclinger
    Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:21pm

    Good job, Josef, you’ve done us proud. Keep up the good work.

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  • Rollo2
    Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:20pm

    You GO, young man!!!

    While the press and politicians and pundits wring their hands over the proper response to Westboro, you put the TRUTH in 4 simple undeniable (by anyone who knows God) words.

    Grace is in YOU!

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  • Individualism
    Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:19pm

    true because it don’t exist

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    • Fubared
      Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:30pm

      Such support for his individualism. Stellar. Takes some more meds and email doc paul about it.

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    • sta
      Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:43pm

      The word you are looking for is “doesn’t”. Not “don’t”.

      Stay in school.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:57pm

      What really disturbs me regarding INDIV here is that no other Paul supporters dare challenge his idiocy. As long as he’s in the tank for Ron Paul… he’s cool in their book. Just like the KKK…

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    • RaiderforFreedom
      Posted on May 18, 2012 at 2:11am

      @IBELIEVER… If you‘re going to pointlessly troll people’s grammar, then at least do it without being wrong yourself. Punctuation goes inside of a quoted reference if it is a direct quote, not a single, unquoted word that has quotations to add emphasis. Troll.

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    • iBeliever
      Posted on May 18, 2012 at 2:49pm

      @RAIDERFORFREEDOM… No, punctuation still goes in quotation marks in that instance. Read a style guide, dipѕhit.

      Hope this helps!

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  • rock60
    Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:19pm

    Good young man right there.

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  • disenlightened
    Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:18pm

    Brave little booger eater…hats off…but maybe God can make an exception for the liberal media?

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  • Commander8080
    Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:18pm

    Actually, it is God loves the person, but hates the sin. The problem that homosexuals have is simple; this sin draws them away from God and often to other sin. Resulting in eternal damnation if a sinner does not turn to Gods love and forgiveness. What Christians need to do is to keep reminding people of sin and to turn to God. Would you let your four year old child play in the street if they wanted too? No, you would keep reminding them of the DANGER of playing in the street and that is what Christians need to go with sinners and not just adopt the politically correct thing to do.

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  • RJJinGadsden
    Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:17pm

    Josef Akrouche obviously can’t be the product of public school! This kid has more common sense than most and is able to figure out that these Westboro Bozos are nothing but a hate group more related to the KKK than a church. My hat is off to you Josef and I hope your mom really, really enjoyed such a Mother’s Day activity.
    On another note (sarcasm on) it would not bother me if this bunch of hating idiots were cordoned with their court recommended distance under a stand of trees…with downward pointing claymores wired to the limbs. (sarcasm off)

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  • Tacit Eagle
    Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:17pm

    God Bless You Josef Miles. Your right. God does not hate.

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  • ASimpleGenius
    Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:15pm

    Well played, good man. Well played.

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    • GSX
      Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:20pm

      It doesn’t get any better than that.

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  • tkrnstr
    Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:14pm

    Awesome

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  • libertyandresponsibility
    Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:14pm

    That is really awesome to see this kid taking a stand.

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  • kc_chiefsfan
    Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:11pm

    Good for Josef and Mom should be proud of how she is raising that young man. It took tremendous courage to stand up for right against that group! Keep it up Josef!

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  • MTSchmidt
    Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:11pm

    Well actually, as politically incorrect as it may sound, God does hate. He hates all evil doers. But it is in His Son that we find grace. That is the message missing from this. When a Christian says he was “saved”, from what was he saved? From God himself. (His wrath)

    “The boastful shall not stand before your eyes; you hate all evildoers.” Psalms 5:5

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    • Locke
      Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:18pm

      More to the point, God hates sin not the sinner. It’s just awesome that a 9 year old gets that when many adults even miss the mark.

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    • sta
      Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:45pm

      God hates evildoers who do evil. If they repent, they are forgiven.
      God loves everyone and wishes all to repent, because we are all sinners.

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    • Servant Of YHVH
      Posted on May 17, 2012 at 10:28pm

      Actually what we are “saved” from is that we are saved from our own sins with the ability now to “clear” the list of our sins for salvation to get into Heaven.

      I hate to disappoint someone who obviously makes it easy to follow the Bible by selectively choosing specific verses and therefore is able to put a preferred meaning to it. (1)God does NOT hate anyone! (2)God hates the ACT! (3)Jesus IS God in human form (no matter how someone wants to try, they cannot separate God and Jesus. (4)God is PERFECT Love! (5)God is PERFECT Justice!

      As a “breakdown” of the Trinity – God is the “Judgement”, the Holy Spirit is the “warner” and Jesus is the proof!

      Contrary to popular Christian belief, the ONLY difference there is between Judaism and the religion that people (starting with the Romans in a derogatory manner) know as Christianity is that Judaism does not believe the the messiah has come yet while the Christian Church follows Jesus (with some disregard and minimization of God. What people have come to know as Christianity is actually a Jewish Religion. Christianity in God‘s and Jesus’ eyes is Judaism with all who follow Judaism, recognizing and accepting Jesus (Yeshua) as the true Messiah. If people want to separate Christianity from God and the Jewish beliefs, prepare for God to separate these “Christians” from God, from the true Messiah and from eternal life with Him. Remember Jesus said we are to pray to His Father NOT to Him.

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    • memyselfandi
      Posted on May 18, 2012 at 12:31am

      @servant…
      What the Bible says is that God was dealing almost exclusively with the Nation of Israel from Genesis chapter 12 through the middle of the book of Acts and Jesus didn’t deal with gentiles at all during His earthly ministry.

      After the Stoning of Stephen we see a transition begin to take place from Judaism and the Jews to the Body of Christ made up of both Jews and Gentiles concluding with Acts 28 and the final rejection of Jesus by the Jews.

      God gave the Nation of Israel many warnings in the OT that He was going to turn to another Nation and provoke the Jews to Jealousy (Deut. 32:21) and in Romans chapter 9-11 the Apostle Paul declares that the Judgment of God has finally been executed and with the exception of the remnant, the Jews and their religion have been cut off.

      Here’s the thing…Some of the Jews accepted Jesus as the Messiah but they weren’t willing to let go of the Law so they promoted faith in Jesus plus the works of the Law for righteousness under the leadership of the 12 and James, the Lords brother. They didn’t like the message of salvation by grace through faith which God gave specifically to Paul and verified it with many special miracles. The followers of the Jews became the Catholic religion and the followers of the gospel preached by Paul became the Protestants. The conflict between these two groups continues even today.

      From your words it seems that you are following the Jewish believers and sticking to the Law alone…good

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    • memyselfandi
      Posted on May 18, 2012 at 10:25am

      Cont…Good luck with that…you are responsible for keeping all of the 613 laws plus the things Jesus added to it in Matthew and Luke. Do you have a savings account? Have you sold all of your possessions and given to the poor…and are you relying on God alone to take care of you needs like the birds of the air and the lilies of the field do.

      The gospel of the Kingdom has been suspended…the body of Christ has been given a different program than the Jews were given to provoke them to jealousy until the times of the gentiles is complete. When the gentiles fall into unbelief as the Jews did, God will remove the gentile branches, turn back to the Jews and complete the Jewish program and prophesies, including turning back to the Law.

      That is what the Bible says if you read all of it.

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    • BASSPLYR
      Posted on May 18, 2012 at 1:09pm

      Malachi 1 2-3 ” …..Jacob I Loved,3 and I Hated Esau, and laid his mountains and heritage to waste…”

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  • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
    Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:10pm

    God doesn’t hate anyone, but he does have a special place picked out for the Westburo people, its very tropical, no snow, and a lot of farmers with pitchforks hanging around. God won’t hate them, but he doesn’t tolerate idiots either.

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  • gsplgtr
    Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:08pm

    That boy has more wisdom and understanding of God’s nature than all of the WBC!

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    • Bruce P.
      Posted on May 18, 2012 at 1:44am

      The boy has more wisdom and understanding than many posters here…

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  • Patriot Z
    Posted on May 17, 2012 at 8:07pm

    Well done young man! good Job!

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