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No ‘Rich Men’ Fought Revolutionary War: Piven Declares ‘Love of My Life’ Occupy ‘Belongs’ Beside War of Independence in History
- Posted on May 16, 2012 at 5:50pm by
Benny Johnson
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The Blaze’s Erica Ritz contributed to this report.
On May 12th Professor Frances Fox Piven gave an impassioned speech entitled “The Crisis and the Left” on behalf of the Socialist Register, a leading International leftist publication. In the talk, she seized upon the “new love of her life,” the Occupy Wall Street movement, and launched into an elaborate description of how OWS deserves a prominent place in American History, on level with the Revolutionary War of 1776.
Key Piven Quotes:
- ”What I really want to talk about is, what is my, the love of my life now: Occupy. I want to try to explain why Occupy is becoming one of those great, national movements that has changed American history– But amazingly, very, very few people can locate Occupy in American history, and that’s what I want to try to do.”
- “So let me say something about why I think Occupy belongs in a serious history of the United States. In the United States we call this very sophisticated study of American political history “American political development.” And now it isn’t just a study of great men, and they are all men– Betsy Ross just made the flag.”
- “There‘s another history of the United States and it’s much more erratic, and much less easily described or explained by American institutions, and it’s much more important, and it gets much less attention– and that’s the history of protest movements, and the way protest movements impact on the existing constellation of institutions and interest groups and voter coalitions and alignments.”
- “It’s a history that tells the story of the American Revolution and the War of Independence not as a war fought by the merchant and land-owning elites– actually they didn’t fight the war, you know, rich men don’t go to war–but it’s a history, rather, of the Revolutionary War as compounded not only of elite influence in gaining political independence from the British Crown and the British merchant class, but it’s a history also of the popular uprisings which generated enormous popular energy.”
- “[In 1776] the ideas of radical democracy were sweeping the country at the time. And if you pay attention the philosophy of radical democracy that animated the dirt farmers, and the artisans and the laborers– that doctrine was really a little like Occupy.”
- “They believed government should never be far from where they were, and that they should be able to watch what it did. There should only be a legislature– it should be unicameral, one House, no House based on property– and they believed also that they should be able to un-elect these characters every year.”





















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Comments (163)
cookcountypatriot
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:20pmcan you imagine changing that hags diaper….shes a very very very very old progressive has no idea whats she,s talking about any more…she just makes finger paintings with her own feces these days
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:28pmTales from he crypt…….that’s all I can think of when I see this old shriveled up hag……
Report Post »pitboss711
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:38pmShe’s a typical delusional, socialist pig.
Report Post »John 1776
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:59pmAmazing how she can just poop a turd-full-of-lies out like that,
Report Post »say it enough, and people believe her!
dumboldcontractor
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 7:00pmIs she really calling for a rebirth of the failed Articles of Confederation? Franny, we don’t live in a democracy, WE LIVE IN A REPUBLIC! (if we can keep it… didn’t somebody famous say that?)
Report Post »barnsy
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 7:00pmShe is obviously suffering. Since her friends on the left are for assisted suicide maybe they would agree to have her humanely euthanized.
Report Post »Bowlz
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 7:04pmShe looks old enough to have been there so she may have first hand information…………………
Or, she’s just an angry, insecure woman who feels the need to control the lives of others……….
Who knows?
Report Post »lovenfl3
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 7:13pmGeorge Washington is considered to be the wealthiest President in US history, so nice try Piven. It’s amazing how stupid these liberal loons are, who needs facts when you’re a liberal? This great video shows how the current class warfare is eerily similar to Ayn Rand’s great book Atlas Shrugged.
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t5bgM61ULc
KickinBack
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 7:17pmShe says Occupy is “the lover her life” well, them kids are so doped most the time that I‘m sure they wouldn’t mind a romantic romp in a tent with her.
Report Post »fiveft15
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 7:20pmPaperboy,why do you want to dis the crypt keeper by the comparison.Piven is a whole lot uglier!
Report Post »term limits for congress
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 7:22pmTEA vs. Occupy
She selected incorrectly…. again.
Report Post »tesla V
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 7:31pmThis womans age has nothing to do with her looks. She wasn’t much of a looker when she was young either.Most importantly,however, she is ugly as hell on the inside.
Report Post »000degrees
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 8:11pmI’m thinking we could tape a couple of fly swatters to those gnarly knuckles and send her to South Africa to help control the fly population……
Report Post »woodyb
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 8:13pmRich men didn’t fight in the Revolutionary War because they were not able to become rich under British rule — that is why they fought the war — so that they could PURSUE wealth and well being on their own merit, not be granted it by the government!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 9:02pmSIMPLY PUT, SHE IS A WITCH. But her problems don’t end when she finally dies. Then she’ll have to answer to JESUS CHRIST about her massive harm to children. As a woman, I can tell you that this was one frustrated female who has -0- class, breeding or culture about herself. She’s a bowery dame.
Report Post »I can‘t believe she’s still at it. Keep on piling up the points against yourself, Piven, you shameless, horrible woman…your face tells your story. THE WORST PART ABOUT HER??? She makes up lies and tries to sell them to gullible kids as “the truth”…she is a great TRAITOR to ALL AMERICANS. What a horrible legacy she has made for herself.
jhaydeng
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 9:33pmDoes she have her own history book because in the USA that would never even be mentioned in history!
Report Post »MEANS2RESIST
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:03pmSocialism is a philosophy of failure,
the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy,
its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery..”
– Winston Churchill
These are possibly the 5 best sentences you’ll ever read:
Unfortunately, most voters don’t know this.
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them; and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work, because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:12pmIs the guy in the photo pooping on Piven’s head? Sure looks like it to me. : )))))
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:25pm@MONK
That’s hysterical. I can imagine the laughter in the production office ;when they put that together.
That had to be intentional.
How fitting.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:46pmHi Billy,
“How fitting.”
I guess he works for the “Plummer’s Union”. They always know what’s “fitting”.
BTW, what’s going on with all the JZS family feud stuff in the posts below? Sounds like a war is about to break out. Have you ever posted to that copatriots person? He/she sounds alright. : )
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:54pmHi Billy,
Is Piven, with her LEFT (of course LEFT) hand, rubbing the poop into her hair? Sure looks like that to me. What’s that big dark spot on her/it’s left temple? Is this the new Lefty hair coloring process?
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 11:11pm@Therightsofbilly
I almost forgot….. what you did with Encinom’s name is fantastic. Encinomunist… now that’s funny! I see that other people are following your lead and changing “it’s” name. : )
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 11:41pmHI MONK,
Yes, COPATRIOTS is A-OK in my book.
As for the JZS clan feud, I’m steering clear. Don’t think I want to play their version of Cowboys and Indians.
Now, for that hair dye you were talking about. I hear it’s a new color they have available in some test markets right now. (The Oakland area is one of them). It’s called “Excrement Brown”. For discriminating radicals everywhere.
Does she, or doesn’t she?
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on May 17, 2012 at 12:28am@Therightsofbilly
Yeah, you make a lot of sense staying away from that crazy JZS clan. I’m going to do the same. Copatriots seems sincere and nice enough.
““Excrement Brown”. For discriminating radicals everywhere. Does she, or doesn’t she?
Only her heirdresser knows….
Report Post »banman
Posted on May 17, 2012 at 12:32amMarquis de Lafayette. Very rich frenchman who helped finance much of the war. Loved the American ideals which is why he fought to help with our Independence.
That’s the problem with liberals, they don’t know their history.
Report Post »wyldibrouse
Posted on May 17, 2012 at 10:00amSenile dementia comes to mind.
Report Post »JRook
Posted on May 17, 2012 at 10:11amActually to be historically correct one could say the Americans in the Revolutionary War from the British perspective were the first occupy movement. Occupy the Colonies. And for those who don’t actually know history, Americans owe an eternal debt to the Scotts, who caused Brittan to recall troops from American to squash an uprising in the British Isles. Oh and let’s not forget the assistance we got from France and the Indians. “The American forces asked a number of different Indian nations for their support in the war effort. General George Washington asked the Passamaquoddy of Maine to send him warriors. Massachusetts passed a resolution calling for 500 Micmac and Maliseet Indians to be employed in the Continental Army. While Maliseet chiefs Ambrose St. Aubin and Pierre Tomah supported the American cause, many Indians avoided the recruiting efforts.” But hey GB already clued you into the true history.
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on May 17, 2012 at 1:05pm@ BILLY & MONK
Thanks much for your kind words! It’s always fun to read both of your posts! You bring intellect and wit to discussions. I’m always impressed with you tackling our resident trolls (for which I have little patience). Blessings to you both!
Report Post »MittensKittens
Posted on May 17, 2012 at 1:58pmI can’t believe this f(u)cking skank. She must not know what happened to the 56 men that signed the Declaration of Independence.
I swear if she were crossing the street in front of me, I hope there would be ice on the road so I wouldn’t be able to stop!
Report Post »Jenny Lind
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:20pmShe is wrong. Many came here with land grants from the king-the first Snow in the country did. He was given land in exchange for doing a specific job-a sawmill. He was well enough off that he and family decided to contribute to the cause with money and their time. In that day, they were well off.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on May 17, 2012 at 12:49amIn the old days… People inherited Wealth… or built up Wealth over a period of time, being Aged… so, Wealth represented Education and Experience… known as Wisdom… and this Wisdom was used to Govern during the Revolution… where the Soldiers were less Educated & Younger. Who would expect this to be Reversed?
Report Post »scout n ambush
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:19pmThose men were extremely wealthy with somethings she can never posses due to her ideology.But back then money and land was worth alot more beacuse people knew how to work the land = work money …..capitalism.According to most records the 97% of the day didn’t want to fight the British it was just 3% who ran to the sound of the guns.
Report Post »Wolfgang the Gray
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 8:16pmShow you sources. I think the figure was more about 30% in favor of revolution, 30% against, and 30% indecisive.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on May 17, 2012 at 1:40amI think you both are Right: With about 2 Million Colonists… Washington was barely able to Field an Army to oppose 60,000 British Soldiers… so, the French had to help us. The problem with Supporters is… they tend to stay home and take care of their Families… rather than risking Life & Limb!
Report Post »scout n ambush
Posted on May 17, 2012 at 1:58amThe 97 % comment is in refrence to the 99%ows types of today guess i should have made it easier to draw the connection but this story is about piven and ows .But according to revolutionarywar .net 250,000 men served during the eight years of the war with never more than 90,000 at one time what was the total population over 2.5 million .The only accurate numbers are those who actually served thats around what maybe 10% of the total population .
Report Post »scout n ambush
Posted on May 17, 2012 at 2:07amLUKERW Wolfgang might be right but the population vs those who served is all i got to go on’ All other info is just somebodys own guess work and is subject to the old “if you torture the numbers long enough ”
Report Post »Puddle Duck
Posted on May 17, 2012 at 10:24amThe maj were behind the men in the field. You cannot run an army without folks at home producing what it needs to fight and sustain itself. In those days many men needed leave to help with planting and harvesting. It was a real hardship for the women left behind who were just as heroic and important in the fight as the men that took up arms.
Report Post »coldnorth
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:16pmMaybe she’s to dim to realize everyone of our forefathers who signed the Declaration of Independence was signing his death warrent had the British won. Their lands, businesses, and properties would have been seized. They would have been hung or shot.
Report Post »ALL4FREEDOM
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:15pmIs it ‘Piven’, or ‘Pinhead’? George Washington was one of the wealthiest men in America, but, hey, who needs the turth, anyway? Don’t ever let the facts get in the way of a good story.
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:56pmShe also wants to exclude the richness of American virtue, morality and spirituality of the time.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:15pmHey Uncle JZS,
Question: Who the hell is this old hag?
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:27pmHehehe Billy! I am so out of the loop. JZ has a mother and now an uncle. When will they stop inbreeding?
My Page 2 comment is expressing my shock that anyone actually seeks out and pays to take this America-hatin‘ hag’s course! I am more concerned about the mindset of the students……who the heck are those drones?
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:41pmWhy does the Blaze keep running stories on this unknown and irrelevent woman? How does the strategy of orchestrated crisis espoused by this unknown university professor and socialist connect in any way to Barack Obama his ties to ACORN and Community Organizing? Silly things like this for instance:
Report Post »1. Register as many Democrat voters as possible, legal or otherwise and get them to vote, multiple times if possible.
2. Overwhelm the system with fake registrations, multiple entries of the same name, names of the dead, random names from the phone book, even made-up names.
3. Make the system difficult to audit and police by calling for minimal identification standards.
Barack Obama ran ACORN’s Project Vote in Chicago.
Or the Mortgage Crisis:
ACORN aggressively sought to balloon loans to low income groups using the CRA (Community Reinvestment Act) as a blunt instrument. in 1991, ACORN took over the House Banking Committee room for two days to protest efforts to scale back the CRA.
Obama the non-profit lawyer represented ACORN in the Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Federal Savings. Bank, suit ACORN then used its subsidiary, ACORN Housing, to promote subprime loans even harder.
Come on Blaze..stop putting up articles about this irrelevent and unknown professor and connecting her theories of manufactured crises to implement wealth redistribution to Obama. Who is Frances Fox Piven for crying out loud?
Does that cover it JZS?
AskUncleJZS
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 7:24pmDamn you all to hell Billy boy. That old hag… I mean, that wonderful lady is my Great Grandmama. I’ll get you Billy boy. You just wait. Your ridiculous diatribe is no match for my superior intellilect. My Grandmama can and does draw circles around your intire feeble family bush. He -he, your family doesn’t even qualifry as a tree. See, I got you good Billy boy. Im schure your speechless now and cant think of one word in rebuttle.
Report Post »AskUncleJZS
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 7:29pmcopatriots
We dont inbreed, we outbreed. Got it co-dependent-pat-riots?
Report Post »Mother of JZS
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 7:51pmDagnabit, you two better behave down there. I knew better than to let your crazy uncle visit us for Mama’s Day. And now your talking trash about your Great Grandmama Piven? What about your Aunt Elizabeth Warren? I suppose both of you are going to start playing cowboys and ingines? Remember what happened the last time you played cowboys and ingines with your uncle? Thats right, had to get you an enema.
Now dagnabit, you two play nice down there or im gonna cut the power to your puter!!! Oh wait, thats what I did last time. OK, you 2 stay on the puter.
Love,
Report Post »Your Mother
copatriots
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 8:05pmROFL I’m a little afraid of the JZ clan. But your creativity is Pulitzer worthy…..although that ain’t worth much these days. Even so……Bravo!
Report Post »ITSJESTTIM
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 8:49pmfor copatriots
I’m hoping that the JZS clan goes the way of my EVIL TWIN BROTHER Timmy. Timmy caught a ride on that Sun Fish that jumped out of the Sun on May 3. All that was left of him was a pair of Nike sneakers and an empty glass of Krewl-Aid. Well, that’s not entirely true. He also left his passports for Gog and Magog. I sure hope he’s happy. Wherever he is.
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 9:03pmYou and your alter egos all are welcome on our ex-pat “Atlas Shrugged” strike island as soon as the location is determined :-)
Report Post »AskUncleJZS
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 10:30pmcopatriots
Oh, deer Lord. Your the Cop At Riots! Your the fuzz with the badges! Bad cop! Go away! Weer not smokin nuttin down hear. Go away Cop At Riots! Weer not cousin no trobles down hear. I nebber sent this and u kant track me. Ha-ha. We smarter then u. Go away Cop At Riots.
Report Post »Hay Jzees, ask your Mama to make us a pitza. Pweeeeas…
Puddle Duck
Posted on May 17, 2012 at 10:30amAvengerK….the old axiom “know thy enemy” is a very important aspect of formulating a comprehensive plan of action to combat these folks (on the battlefield of ideas/ideals). Better to know what they up to than not know.
Report Post »Puddle Duck
Posted on May 17, 2012 at 10:34amNevermind AvK….I should have read the whole post …sigh.
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:14pmskeletor speaks again! I thought this shriveled hag would stop getting attention but she just keeps on with her dementia
Report Post »undercover
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:14pmIf they win they will write themselves into history as saviors of the world. If they lose they will join the rest of the fascist and progressive movements on the trash pile of history. Our job is to see that they lose..
Report Post »republic2011
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:13pmWhoops! Could of sworn this was the world’s ugliest woman piece…. snicker..
Report Post »barnsy
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 7:04pmNo comparison, Piven is ugly on the inside as well as on the outside!
Report Post »Zurich
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:13pmYes, Francestein Piven’s favorite picture is the one of the guy making potty on the street. She has framed it and placed it on her bedside table…….
Report Post »TomSawyer
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:12pmFrances Fox Piven, that guy in the painting right next to you, his name is George Washington. He was rich and he fought in the revolutionary war; therefore, you’re wrong.
Report Post »Obamalarky
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:11pmShe really looks and sounds like she is ready for hospice. This ol bat is clueless.
Report Post »deacon01
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:10pmWhy do we even recognize and give attention to anything this idiot says!! Good news… she probably does’nt have a whole lotta time left above ground. Tea.
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:10pmIdeological desperation in the elderly is sad and unseemly.
Report Post »Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:10pmClueless Commie Cow.A lot of rich folks fought and DIED for our independence. She is Bat SH&T Crazy!!
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:35pmHey Smokey,
Is that Dog he’s munchin on?
Report Post »Scottscobig
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:10pmI have to agree. OWS is making history. They’re part of the historic change that began with the war btw the states, continued with the new deal and, more recently, GW Bush, Obama and now, Bush 2.0: Romney.
All are part of a conspiracy, consciously or unconsciously, to eradicate freedom and the constitution.
They’re out to kill the goose that laid the golden eggs. Freedom is what lead to our unprecedented wealth and prosperity. Freedom is why our poor ARE the 1% when compared with the rest of the world. OWS and co. want that wealth and prosperity and are prepared to take it, by force, via the govt and its legalized mugging and enslavement of the “rich.” Continue to kill freedom and with it die wealth and prosperity.
Or do you really think you’ll be rich when the legitimately rich are utterly robbed and bereft of their wealth. Trace whatever you’re getting from the govt back to its source. When the source dries up, so do your govt freebies.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:10pmShe is pathetically ill……..very very ill…..
Report Post »elosogrande
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:08pmAnother lie by the National Socialists.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:07pmGeorge Washington was a poor man? Hmmm, maybe he was the only one. LOL. Now she is just making this up whole cloth. Can’t wait to see how JZS and ENCINO_NAMBLA_MAN will support her stance. Should be humorous.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:24pmDuh, what I meant was sarcastically George Washington must have been the only rich one.
Report Post »Thatsitivehadenough
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:04pmThis woman is so totally delusional. She actually imagines she’s influencing American history. I guess all Marxist-communists are delusional anyway. But the people who are REALLY delusional are the ones who still imagine they can actually get an education at any university in the USA anymore. Communists don’t educate. They indoctrinate. This lunatic is a perfect example of why Americans are falling to the lowest end of the scale in education worldwide. She deserves to be fired.
Report Post »Puddle Duck
Posted on May 17, 2012 at 11:07amA fading dream and the prospects of fullfilling that (rotten) dream are all this old bag has left. The fact that she threw the this fading ideal to the only folks that will even listen to her propaganda is merely a case of ther was no one else left (pun unintended) to take up her delusional life’s “cause”. I think it’s safe to say that a common character flaw among these folks is a grossly overinflated sense of self worth/self importantance, that over time if left to feed and grow, transcends into a near state of megalomania. Zero has this trait in spades (pun intended).
Report Post »South Philly Boy
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:04pmOh Man… Give ME a BREAK… Will Ya
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:04pmMore allusions to conflict, wars and insurrection by Piven to insinuate violence and conflict to her thralls. More red meat for the brownshirts. Glorifying their chaos and destruction as “the love of my life” and likening it to the birth of a nation. The similarities to Hitler and Lenin are stark.
Where freedom from oppression was the goal of the American revolution, for free men to live in life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness…Piven wants to see a state controlled socialist utopia set up in it’s place.
Report Post »This woman is vulgar….
Puddle Duck
Posted on May 17, 2012 at 11:11amAgreed AvK, may I also add…….She is a traitor, period.
Report Post »smartgirl
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:03pmDamn, she’s senile. Why hasn’t anyone noticed and acted to protect her from herself?
Report Post »Abraham Young
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 6:01pmThat’s for sure. They belong in history – far back in history, along with all the other collectivists who have failed to achieve anything but chaos, contention, and misery.
Report Post »lottcha
Posted on May 16, 2012 at 5:56pmThis lady is nuts!
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