No Surprise Here: China Orders its Airlines to Ignore EU Cap-and-Trade Scheme
- Posted on February 6, 2012 at 5:04pm by
Becket Adams
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China has ordered its airlines to ignore a 2008 European Union law that imposes a “carbon emissions tax” on all flights traveling to and from the EU.
The carbon emissions tax will cost the airline industry an estimated €9 billion ($11.8 billion) by the end of 2020, Reuters reported back when the European Court of Justice (ECJ) ruled that the 2008 law was reasonable and “fair.”
“Application of the emissions trading scheme to aviation infringes neither the principles of customary international law at issue, nor the open-skies agreement,” the ECJ said in its ruling.
It has also been estimated by The European Commission that costs per passenger will increase by €2 ($2.60) to €12 ($15.60) for airlines participating in the cap-and-trade program.
Unsurprisingly, international airlines are unhappy with the expensive new tax, as vocal opposition from both Canadian and U.S. airlines has made abundantly clear. However, going one step further than either the U.S. or Canada, China is the only country to outright disregard the EU’s expansion of its carbon cap-and-trade system.
See the Euronews update:
“China has ‘banned’ all airlines in the country from joining the European Union’s Emissions Trading Scheme (ETS) aimed at cutting carbon emissions,” the BBC reports. “The authorities have also barred the airlines from increasing their fares or adding new charges for the scheme.”
No compromise.
“China objects to the EU’s decision to impose the scheme on non-EU airlines,” Xinhua quoted a statement by the Civil Aviation Administration of China as saying.
Analysts believe that China has chosen to disregard the EU’s cap-and-trade law because the airline industry is volatile enough as it is.
“The sector is already facing quite severe challenges,” Chris De Lavigne of Frost & Sullivan told the BBC. “The airline industry as a whole has already been hit by high fuel costs in the past couple of years and no one wants additional cost factors coming in.”
Obviously, the decision by China to ignore the carbon emissions tax puts the EU in an odd position. Does the EU simply turn the other cheek or does it attempt to enforce its carbon tax?
“We are not backing down and this legislation will apply to companies operating in Europe,” said Isaac Valero-Ladron, spokesman for EU climate action commissioner Connie Hedegaard.
He warned that the law carries fines for airlines that ignore it. But will that make any difference?
“It is going to be very tricky. You have to wait and see how the EU will react,” Siva Govindasamy of Flightglobal told the BBC. “They would be able to stop the Chinese airlines from flying to the EU, but that could see retaliatory action by China which will not be good for either side,” he added.
Analysts believe that because of the parties involved, the EU will be forced to seek assistance from an international authority.
“It could potentially end up on the desk of the World Trade Organization as the countries who are against it have said it is an unfair trade practice,” said Frost & Sullivan’s Mr Lavigne. “Both sides have claimed that this is either fair or unfair, so it is very difficult to see how this is going to shape up.”
(H/T: Newser)
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Comments (86)
ZAP
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 6:28pmCan we get some one from China to run for president here?
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 7:03pmWe already have a Communist president.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 7:05pmOur Criminal Federal Govt. Is destroying the private sector and stealing from our grandkids…. They are the one and only threat to our freedom…. Not Iran ! Our founders warned us…
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 7:07pmProblem solver posted this video last night..a real eye opener..
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym4TTmOJ4I8
carbonyes
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 7:10pmDumocrats have no brains or common sense. Repubics have no balls or backbones. The Chinese have balls, backbones and brains. Chinaman for hire to replace Romney and Gingrich and defeat Obama.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 7:10pm.This is how we are traded like commodities.. we are owned..
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOixE2ZFYtE
MCDAVE
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 7:50pmObama would like to place many carbon based taxes on us too….Time for The citizens to outright reject them
Report Post »John 1776
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 7:59pmThe enemy of my enemy is still not my friend! Although I like that the Chinese are holding the middle finger at the EU, I am still aware that the China wants us dead, and the top general of the People’s Liberation Army as recently as 2005 said they need to kill 200+ million of us in order to insure China is #1 in this century.
Report Post »Wilma
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 8:01pmRofl
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 8:05pmThe globalist off shore bankers are cracking down. These taxes are meant to put the economys of the praticipating countrys in the crapper. China is standing up and saying no. They also have dirty coal plants. The US has clean burning coal plants, because of the UN. Now while that is not a bad thing on the surface the Chinese markets are doing better than the US. I realize they are in a industerial revolution like we once were. But we are taking orders from the UN. They have one thing in mind. One World Government.
Report Post »Glock31
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 8:31pmi actually agree with china on this decision. at least someone in this liberal world has balls. too bad we won’t follow suit. i’m so tired of all the climate change BS
Report Post »Marci
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 9:02pmGood for them. Smarter than our moonbats in government—the ones who actually believe in the nonsense. Those who are using it for power and money need to be sent to jail.
Report Post »rc30
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 9:41pmAt least one country has big balls. I don’t care for china at all. But they told the EU where to go and how to get there.
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 9:50pmDoesn’t anyone remember the Chicago Climate Exchange? Goldman Sachs, Obama and Al Gore behind it? A projected $10T a year rape of the World’s economies? Good for China! Tell those Brits to stick their cap and trade tax where the Sun does not shine. China should ban all air travel between the two Countries including Hong Kong (which they just recently got back from the Brits). Then all other Countries should do the same. Isolate the Brits to their little Island until they end the cap and trade tax.
Report Post »Then… the Sun will ALWAYS set on the British Empire!
TomFerrari
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 11:10amFuel up in your country of origin.
Fly to Europe, but land at the closest airport NOT in the EU.
Refuel for the return flight back to country of origin.
Make the short hop to Europe.
Take on MINIMAL fuel for return trip requirements.
VOILA !
You only pay their ridiculous ManBearPig tax on that tiny amount of fuel purchased IN the EU !!!
That’s MY idea!! (c) (patent pending)
Report Post »turkey13
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 4:43pmChina had better wacth out – The Brits might ban all those nice cheap lead coated toys! Just kidding – I tip my cap to them. One of the first things our new president should do is make a pact with China and any other country who reads the real reports on global warming. If Global warming was man made we would still have live dinosaurs!
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 6:25pmGood for China, i agree with them !!!
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 7:22pmHey folks, there is no global warming – period. Carbon dioxide does not raise global temperatures to ant appreciable effect, if at all.
Any program being pushed by EU, the UN, Obama and his administration, or any other whacked out group, is being used for control and greed, i.e., to generate large amounts of money, and in the process take from the haves and give to the have nots.
This is fraud and fabrication of the highest order, and many times outright criminal. Of course when the name of Obama and his administration are mentioned, any thing in any way linked to them is absolutely replete with fraud and criminality.
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 10:18pmI agree, good for China. Also, if you are planning on casting a vote for Newt, keep in mind that he believes in anthropogenic global warming and doesn‘t believe in a man’s right to defend himself. If you vote for Newt, you are part of the problem.
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 9:44amI visited China. They had great cameras. They had computers. I flew on jets from Beijing to Chengdu & back. The airports were busy. For every coal plant we take off line they will put 2 on line.
Not only will they put two on line but America will be CHARGED for the carbon pollution by the UN. Why? Because that are were the items produced are going to (or were).
Life should be easy in the US. Should be.
Chinese consumers are not lectured about consumption. They have all the same gadgets we have. Soon they are to have more.
Chinese are not lectured about climate. When it comes to power consumption, it boils down to economics. It comes down to not having enough & cost & having to conserve because of it.
Every Green friendly candidate should be run out on a rail & maybe tarred & feathered.
Report Post »cemerius
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 6:23pmWOW!! China seems to have found the “cajones” the American politicians lost!!!
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 7:36pmChina has always had cajones. We have lost ours many years ago. Perfect examples: Bob Dole, John McCain, Boehner, McConnell and Lindsey for starters. G. Bush may have one nut, but it wasn’t functioning very well, for he dropped the ball quite frequently and ran the other way, when the defensive linemen were bearing down on him.
Report Post »gr8t2bfree
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 6:11pmCap and trade is nothing but extortion anyway!
Report Post »BBReggie
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 6:09pmChina will win this one. The EU will wilt like a dry plant in the hot sun.
Report Post »carbonyes
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 7:57pmChina will win more than this one. They are smart, plan while laying out objectives, and are not intimidated, nor to put their foot down when they need to. The only other country in the world that I would compare with China, is the little, but powerful country of Israel, who also is not intimidated, regardless of the opposition. Unfortunately, we definitely need to resurrect our grit, resolve and moral turpitude, putting the hammer down when we need to. It will certainly help to dump Obama on the curbside somewhere and replace him with a stalwart conservative. Romney is not a conservative.
Report Post »AntipasMetochos
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 6:07pmDoes this mean Maurice Strong will soon be back in UN headquarters?
Report Post »Maxim Crux
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 5:50pmCrap…now I have to fly China
Report Post »Phantom II
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 5:45pmReagan asked where are we to go after America is done. China, that’s where. They have learned from the folly of their communist ways and emerge from where we are heading. My kids have Chinese citizenship and live in Shanghai. I have a home there and I have been doing business there 99. They are fine fine people and very pro American, at least the America that I grew up in. In one year from now, I will decide if I will remain an American. If we have a choice between Newt, Romney or Obama as president, we are surely done. They will impose the same carbon tax on us. We are one supreme court judge away from tyranny. I‘m 66 and I’m done fighting. The best thing about China is that there are no American liberals there. Many Americans have already made the move to Singapore, Taiwan and China.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 5:53pmBoxer Rebellion.
Report Post »Mikev5
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 6:10pmI agree America is more like what China was 20 or 50 years ago and China is more like what we were 20 or 50 years ago China wants to GO GO GO but here its restrictions on top of more restrictions EPA EPA EPA they want to have total control of everything and fine you at the drop of a pin and make it very expensive to do business.
We are so controlled, restricted and covered with requirements for everything under the sun as to make it impossible to get anything done without approval from 5 agency’s.
Report Post »HKS
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 6:11pmYou mean they have not direction from Cloward and Piven? What king of a place is that?
Report Post »pennswoods
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 6:39pmWhen the hard line Communists take over China again someday and you end up in a labor camp making lamps for Wal-Mart eating a bowl of rice for dinner each night I hope you remember what you posted here in 2012.
Report Post »Firefighter 538
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 10:57pmPenns…The hard liners can no longer take control..too much freedom now..they still run the military but the military is in bed with industry making $$ and selling crap to the US and everyone else in the world..I would explain it all to you but I’m all out of puppets and crayons!
Report Post »possom
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 5:43pmwow I can’t believe it, I agree with the commie’s on this one.
Report Post »The_Jerk
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 5:41pmIf only the U.S. had the balls to do the same. Tell those frappe sipping Euros to KMA.
Report Post »Doc McCoy
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 5:56pmFor those keeping score, involvement in developing this SCHEME was brought to you by criminas in the USA; it has Al Gore’s fingerprints all over it! So, the USA will not soon opt out!!!
Report Post »Jackie Rogers, Jr.
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 6:49pmHey Bones,
Did you use a salt shaker to find those fingerprints?
Report Post »countryfirst
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 5:41pmWe need to send a stern letter to them from Our Pretty Please President, and if that fails he can go there and bow to them, and not come back
Report Post »LIBS-ARE-DINGLEHEADS
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 5:40pmQuestions to ponder….
Why would we EVER sign a “Global” Cap and Trade Pact, when two of the BIGGEST polluters; China and India – want no part of it? Is there something I’m missing from the definition of….“GLOBAL”?
China’s got the stones. Europe sucks. The US, under Obama, wants “shared sacrifice(s) – just like the failed “states” of Europe – so HE sucks, as well as anyone who votes for him and thinks they’re smart.
They suck too.
Report Post »HKS
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 5:47pmamen.
Report Post »CROCK-HANDLER
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 5:39pmA billion Chinese and no one stands up for ‘cap and trade’?. There schools must be good.
Report Post »jacobstroubles
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 5:29pmWho gives a crap!
7 years of Tibulation is about to start.
China will much to deal with on it’s plate shortly…so it can pretty much go you know what.
Spend time and focus on yourself..get right with GOD.!
The vile, and they know exactly who they are…well, they’ll be reporting the most vile of vile shorlty.
Yup… a big bad ugly smelly piece of garbage known as the antichrist! Oh they’ll have a whole bunch of fun under his filthy rule.
GOD has offered every single sould the gift of free salvation! You dont have to be here when it hits!
Report Post »It’s your choice!
ChiefGeorge
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 5:32pmGod has also offered a multitude of Watchers to tell of the impending doom to come as well as many detours to get off this crazy train. Its still full speed ahead for the many. Me.Me.Me, Mine, Mine, Mine, Gimme.Gimme, Gimme, Take, Take, Take.
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 5:28pmSend Al Gore over to give them a lecturing. I’m sure the commies could use a good laugh.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 5:35pmAl taste like chicken …..
Report Post »DD313
Posted on February 7, 2012 at 11:15amAnd look like chicken crap.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 5:25pmI am scarred, now… China has more Balls than the West!
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 5:30pmChina=The New Cowboy in Town!
Report Post »slr4528
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 5:25pmI can’t believe I am going to say this but China is right and the U.S. and Canada should join China in opposing the EU Cap and trade scheme. I highly doubt that Obama has the “balls” to follow China’s lead.
Report Post »dmerwin
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 5:22pmTake that greenies. This is why it is absolutely economic suicide to buy into this crap. Eventually, the only countries manufacturing anything will be China, India and Russia who have told the Gore crowd that they will not hamstring their economies. We need apparently MORE greenhouse gases to keep the Helium in or we need the helium that keeps Gore’s head from imploding.
Report Post »pennsy.357
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 5:21pmSo much to see in the USA in a lifetime, why go anywhere else.
Report Post »Charles
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 5:27pmEurope is the center of green communism. Therefore Europe, all of it; sucks.
Report Post »boston-rightwinger
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 5:20pmI would like the USA show some manhood. Unfortunately those in charge would like to see a cap and tax scheme here. Who gets the money anyway??
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 5:33pmWorld Government in waiting thats who!
Report Post »goobert
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 5:20pmIt sounds so funny how the Chinese are leading us out of this fascism. They can take on the bankers and global elite that are trying to destroy our nation.
Report Post »hallkbrdz
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 5:18pmI agree – go China (on this one). It will certainly be interesting to watch!
Report Post »Wakeup Maggie
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 5:15pmAs they should, and so should we
Report Post »RagingJudge
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 5:15pmI don’t blame em.
EU morons.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 5:10pmGood for the Chinese…it’s not often you can say that. There‘s something vulgar about seeing a Europe on it’s knees trying to extort money from the rest of the world.
Report Post »RagingJudge
Posted on February 6, 2012 at 5:17pmYeah this is basically the EU trying to impose a global regulation, because EVERYBODY international flies to the EU
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