No to Nanny? Kentucky County Repeals Indoor Smoking Ban
- Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:24pm by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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Just as New York City extended its smoking ban to include public parks, a county in Kentucky has completely repealed its own ban. It’s a move some are calling a win for individual liberty.
The Campbell County Fiscal Court in Newport, KY voted 3-1 Wednesday night to repeal the city’s indoor smoking ban just two months after it voted to put the ban in place. Opponents of the ban said the decision should be left up to individual, while supporters say repealing the ban will affect the county’s health:
Nky.com reports the meeting was raucous, with one ban opponent even playing dress-up to make his point:
Dr. Robert Tracy told county officials that to strike down the ban would make Campbell County “a backward-looking community.” He added: “We’ll become the butt – and I mean that honestly – the butt of jokes.”
But the majority in the room – some of them offering a standing ovation – won the battle. Many said they didn’t believe studies that showed the harms of secondhand smoke, noting some of them are sponsored by foundations that oppose smoking.
Some criticized doctors and the medical community for taking a position on the issue. Ban critic Charlie Coleman, a county resident for more than 60 years, drew raucous applause when he compared anti-smoking efforts to tactics used by dictators such as Hitler.
Other opponents couched the debate as one between hard-working, blue-collar people and an elitist medical community that seeks to remove liberties of the common workers.
Tim Nolan of Grants Lick wore a white lab coat and called himself “a doctor of liberty.” He told county officials that a vote against the ban would show people: “Campbell County is the true springboard of liberty for the rest of the state.
“I’ve taken the pulse of liberty … it is very, very strong in Campbell County.”
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Comments (203)
PoorRichard2
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:22pmThat’s a beautiful thing. Keep the pressure on your elected officials to secure the blessings of liberty and individual choice, not remove common sense.
Report Post »Debra
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:22pmI wish that there was some way of doing this in Colorado. When the smoking ban went into effect, I stopped going out. I got tired of having to go outside, standing 15 feet away from the doorand still getting dirty looks. if an owner of a business wants to allow smoking that is their right. I don’t think this will happen here because we have inherited so many Californians and their mission in life is to make my state another CA by tell everyone how to live. thank God for TABOR.
Report Post »Acekool
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:13pmGet off my back, governments!
Report Post »I can’t wait for 2012.
papajerk
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:09pmHypocrats is the correct name for dems,commies,socialist and any group that gets in our lives..
Report Post »They promote abortion, but don’t do anything that could endanger yourself if you are born! Hypocrats,Hypocrats, Hypocrats, Please help me rename this party! Thanks
Everett Bennett Jr
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:06pmI prefer the non-smoking env while eating…….however, I am for liberty and freedom, I’ll just eat where there is no smoke. Real Ventilation is the key.
Report Post »HonorJC
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:06pmFinally! Mature Human Beings making Responsible FAIR Decisions!
Report Post »saneasylum
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:05pmIt’s time to draw that proverbial line in the sand! Are we under Communist Rule?
Report Post »RightPolitically
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:02pmWay to go. I don‘t smoke and if I enter an establishment that allows smoking and I don’t want to be there, breathing it in, I’ll do what anyone who appreciates a right to choose freely would do, I’LL LEAVE! The fascist draconian government edicts regarding smoking indoors, along with many others, are UN-AMERICAN……..period!
Report Post »APatriotFirst
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:00pmIn Iowa they made it NO smoking in just every place. Restarants. Smokers could not smoke in them.
Report Post »So I went down town, city morons council, said I wanted to open a restarant for smokers only. Nope, couldn’t do it…..said it would be discriminating against non smokers.
Go figure.
foolsgold
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:13pmYour argument is a non sequitor.
Im sure a far right wing tea party supporter like you would enjoy having a DUI driver driving near you. If they want to, they should be allowed to drive blind drunk as alcohol is 100% legal. Right?
Report Post »ProgessiveFail
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:17pmnon sequitor? Oh the irony..
Report Post »Rapunzel
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 7:22pmActually, Fool, it‘s ’non sequitur’ – a phrase descriptive of the majority of your remarks. Gee, could you be exhibiting projection? C’mon, you know that one don’t you? It’s the psychological defense mechanism whereby someone unconsciously denies his or her attributes and ascribes them to another. I think it’s further evidence that liberalism is a mental disease.
Report Post »GingerC
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 12:13amLook Fool.. your DUI argument just flat out doesn’t stand up. People have a CHOICE to frequent, or not, an establishment that allows smoking. People do NOT have a choice of avoiding a drunken fool behind the wheel of a car.
Report Post »Unbelievable
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:58pmIf I own a business who the he77 is the government to tell me whether or not I can allow my paying customers to smoke or not? It’s MY business and I pay my own taxes and should be able to make my own decision on how I want to run my own business.
If someone doesn‘t smoke and doesn’t want to be around it… good!! Then don’t come into my business!! That’s their choice… so don’t take other people choices away!
Report Post »biggreenboo
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:12pmThey are also trying to ban Fat Sacks on Wakeboard boats……..? I could give you a list of reasons they want to do this… but they’re all stupid so I wont go into them.
MD should redraw there boarders in the shape of a banana… cause that ‘s what they are!!!
Report Post »biggreenboo
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:24pmNot sure why my reply ended up here??????
Wierd… I think FOOLSGOLD used some of his strange fairy magic and moved it.
FOOLSGOLD suxs!!!!
Report Post »blanco
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:56pmI can’t STAND smoking, I hate the smell, I hate that it pollutes MY air BUT I can choose not to go to certain places where it is allowed as well as be around people who smoke. Kill yourself with cigarettes—don’t care. Government needs to let you kill yourself and stay out of it.
Report Post »YesNdeedie
Posted on February 19, 2011 at 8:19pmI do not like the smell of smoke either but I find most people that do are normally very considerate. However, I cannot say the same about these old women that wear….err take a bath in that rose smelling perfume. That makes me absolutely sick but they don’t care.
Report Post »Pragmatica
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:55pmI graduated undergrad from University of Kentucky in Lexington and they had the STRICTEST smoking bans I’ve ever seen (outside of major cities like NYC)! As a smoker I did not enjoy the laws one iota. It should be the decision of local businesses. At least allow smoking in bars! I’m glad Campbell is liberating themselves. Let’s hope Lexington follows suit!
Report Post »Lantern
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 3:49pm@Pragmatica
Report Post »I grew up 35 miles east of Lexington. It baffles the mind how Lexington can ban smoking and be surrounded by tobacco fields. Most of the people who come into Lexington are tobacco farmers, are related to, or know someone who is. City people, pffft.
Pragmatica
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 4:04pmHaha! It was quite strange. Lexington is in the middle of tobacco country and yet smoking was banned!!! I did actually enjoy going to bars and leave smelling clean, but I missed having a cigarette with my beer! Most places in Lexington built outside sitting areas so people could smoke and drink.
Report Post »APatriotFirst
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:55pmAs a smoker, I try to be very considerate of non-smokers.
Report Post »If in a restarant that has no smoke section, I do not smoke. If around people who do not smoke, I do not smoke.
A little consideration goes a long way on both sides. I choose to smoke and pay the cig tax. Which IMO is unfair at what it costs today.
For all you non-smokers who understand us smokers…….thank you.
Lantern
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:13pm@APatriotFirst
Report Post »And we appreciate it! The thing that bothers me about some smokers is that they always flip that butt out the window. Everyday, I drive behind someone who does that. What, do they think they will get their ashtray dirty? Do they still make ashtrays in cars?
GreenSicko
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:26pmGo back and tell them the non sokers can wear HEPA face masks.
Report Post »suthenboy
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:51pmI too am a smoker and I try very hard to be considerate of non-smokers, which does go a long way with reasonable people.
Report Post »Unfortunately that is not who we are dealing with when talking about smoking bans, or bans in general. For them it is not about consideration or smoking or health, it is about control. You can be considerate, they complain about butts being thrown out of cars…..ugh. If Lantern and Foolsgold manage to get all smoking everywhere banned, it will not be good enough. Soon they will want to ban something else, then something else ad infinitum. Liberty is a mysterious concept to these types….and an anathema.
Lantern
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 3:37pmPosted on February 17, 2011 at 3:36pm
Report Post »@Suthenboy
I’m not for bannng smoking. It doesn’t bother me in one way or the other. See above comments. I don’t smoke, but someone else smoking doesn’t bother me, because I was raised and live in an area that grows tobacco. It DOES, however bother me that some people choose to litter. That is a different topic entirely from smoking. I do not like to live with trash all around, maybe you do.
Dang keyboard.
MidwestMomof3
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 4:31pm@Lantern….actually, they don’t install ashtrays in cars anymore unless you special-order them. You also have to special-order those push-button cigarette lighters.
Report Post »Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:54pmIt Should Be up to The Property Owner.Break Us Bev Perdue,our Beloved Left Wing Dictator,I mean governor, outlawed smoking In NC Restaurants.Now a lot of my Favorite places have closed.Places that used to be packed.You can get fast food and eat in your car or take it home.I myself just prefer to cook.
Report Post »NeoMouser
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:52pmpeople have been smoking for years BEFORE bans on smoking
Report Post »i have yet to hear that in all that time people got cancer from it
they allude to it but there was no factual accounts
my grand father got 3 types of cancer 3!!! witch he died of
he was a nonsmoker all his life and yet he got lung cancer
he lived outside on a farm his whole life with cleaner air and water than city
no explan ation on how it was gotten was ever found (his side of the family had no record of cancer ever)
banjarmon
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:47pmIf smoker wants to die sooner…then let them.
Report Post »ProgessiveFail
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:15pmThere is no quarantee you will die sooner from smoking. Living life trying to avoid death is not living imo.
Report Post »bullcrapbuster
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:44pmSo now I can take my bucket of smoking horse crap whever I go. Tobacco smoke is a health hazzard to other individuals that in many cases are forced to breath it in.
booger71
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:50pmNo one is forced to breath moron, if they don’t like it go somewhere else.
Report Post »foolsgold
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:08pmGreat — so if your employer now allows smoke in your office, you’r happy?
JUST CHANGE JOBS — its sooooo easy to do so…..
Report Post »GreenSicko
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:11pmIf your worry about your health hazzards how about pollen, dirt, dust, oven fumes (apple Pie,bake chicken),hair spray, fingernail polish, and carpet cleaners. I am a NON Smoker but maybe you should be require to wear a HEPA face masks . Besides that You want kids to die from no healthcare Smoker pay all the chirldren health care with the new HIgh taxes.
Report Post »blacksmith
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 4:37pm@ bullcrap and fool
Report Post »How about that maryjane? Bet you two could go for a big ole’ fat dad right now to get you thinking straight. Most liberals I know support smoking marihuana but are rabid about tobacco! Your thoughts on this please.
getperks
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:43pmI am sitting here in MY house smoking a very nice cigar and loving this story!! We are free and legal citizens using a legal substance. Business can regulate themselves if they want to cater to smokers or non-smokers based on their best judgment that is their right as well. Good job Kentucky!!
Report Post »foolsgold
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:56pmGood luck with that lung cancer treatment in a few years.
Report Post »ProgessiveFail
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:18pmFoolsgold. Non-smokers die everyday.
Report Post »getperks
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:19pm@foolsgold
Report Post »Good luck with your anger issues! LOL Nobody should be smoking in a public building people must frequent and stores and the like should also be off limits. However a bar or restaraunt can choose to provide no smoking areas properly ventilated. There is a no smoking bar here that was doing well before it was a state wide ban and I say more power to them. The customers will decide what type of business you are and if you fail to listen to them you will be out of business soon.
blacksmith
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 4:31pm@ fools
Report Post »Grandpa smoked three packs a day of non filtered and died at 79 about 15 years ago. Outlived his lfe expectancy and did not die of lung cancer. Enjoy your long boring life having a twisted fear of death! We all must die someday and you never know when it is your time.
Thighmaster
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:42pmWhat next? French fries at McDonalds back on the menu?
Report Post »papajerk
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:57pmyes!
Report Post »rodamaa
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:04pmcount on it. Michelle is already working on that.
Report Post »GreenSicko
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:28pmFrench fries are only allow at the White House.
Report Post »ProgessiveFail
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:38pmIn Maryland here they required all resturants and bars to have enclosed smoking areas and other equipment like exhaust fans. The business owners had to pay for all this then a year or so later they banned it completely costing the business owners a ton of money. It should be up to the business owner if he/she allows the use of a legal product on his property. I may have to look at moving to Kentucky. Maryland is quickly becoming a nanny state. They are passing an increased tax for alcohol as I speak saying it will deter underage drinking……They are also passing a law that you may not read a txt or email while at a red light. I’m wondering if I can still eat a hotdog or drink a soda when driving. You gotta love the liberals, and they voted Steny back in nov….
Report Post »I gotta get out of this state.. /end rant :)
Brandon
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:46pmi feel your pain, @progressivefail. I live in PA just over the line from MD and when I drive into the state I sometimes whip out my cell phone for spite. I know its immature. but PA is not too far behind in nannyism.
Report Post »Zinovas
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:59pmIn Chicago that would of been a, only Union Installed, city code.
Report Post »TERMLIMITSNOW
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 3:33pmI lived in MD for 3 years. Had a great job at a great company (Under Armour), making good money and benefits. However, I could not take living among the trash in Baltimore and surrounding areas. I gave it all up for a job making about half as much and no where near the benefits to move to back to WV. I have to tell you, it was worth it to be back among civilized folks, no regrets here.
Report Post »mgibs363
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:35pmA little common sense for once!!
Report Post »MAJORMINOR
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:50pmFor most of the country…common sense is NOT common!
Report Post »brandonhxc
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:34pmthis just in, city pools open up a peeing section for public pools.
I jest, but as a non-smoker i really don’t like going into buildings that have a heavy smoke cloud, i.e. most bars. But that doesn‘t mean I want the gov’t to tell the businesses they can’t smoke in their own building. I just usually chose not to go to a place that has a lot of smokers.
Report Post »vennoye
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:50pmThe bottom line is we all should have the right to “chose” for ourselves. If I don’t want to be places that are full of smoke, it is my right to chose not to go there……not the government’s right to make my choices for me!!!!
Report Post »cykonas
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 7:24amIf there are enough people in your community that feel as you do entrepreneurs will open bars that are non-smoking, or freely install walls/equipment to mitigate the smoke or separate the smokers from the non-smokers. They will do it based on projected high demand for smokeless bars and be driven by the profit motive. As long as the action is taken as a free decision by a private business owner(s) in response to free market forces then it’s great. It’s when the government pushes the market in an artificial direction that things start getting mucked up. Freedom, in large part, means freedom from government intervention into our lives and businesses.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:33pmIt’s up to the people of THE STATE.
Report Post »HillBillySam1
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 3:31pm“Commonwealth”, my friend……
Report Post »megansmom
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:32pmGood for them, it really is up to each person if they want to go into a smoking allowed place and to worry about what the rest of the country thinks over personal freedom and responsibility, well that just makes one an ass, not a butt joke
Report Post »Quagaar Warrior
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:30pm~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Report Post »If non-smokers don’t like the smoke, they don’t have to subject themselves to it.
Tobacco is a legal substance!
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:31pm“while supporters say repealing the ban will affect the county’s health:”
Counties don’t have health. Groups don’t have health. Collectives don’t have health. Individuals have health.
Individuals can choose whether to go into a place that allows smoking and avoid the risk, or they can assume the risk as a free person. Employees can choose to work at a place that allows smoking, or they can choose not to.
I’m tired of the collectivization of our beautiful English language.
Report Post »Quagaar Warrior
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:35pm~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Report Post »I quit smoking 21 years ago but that doesn’t give me the right to force my non-smoking views on anyone. As long as it’s legal, have at it.
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brandonhxc
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:40pmwell said, @ghostofjefferson. there is a lot of collectivization in the english language and american culture for that matter. way to break out the thesaurus on that one. :)
Report Post »mhannah.vera
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:43pmHere, here!!! (and no I’m not a smoker) I think its amazing how we have let the government intrude on all our liberties. I’m sure there is a middle ground we can agree on without bringing the government into the equation. If someone is smoking around me I move. I can’t stand smoke but I love my freedom.
Report Post »watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:52pmAmen GHOST……..Government needs to get out of our personal lives. Unfortunately, pushy people like to use government to impose their views on others under penalty of law. The individual’s freedoms need to be protected for they are assaulted all the time on all fronts!!!!!!!!
Report Post »foolsgold
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:54pmGreat — let the innocent kids and other adults breathe in cigar and cigarette fumes from patrons in hairdressing salons, diners, restaurants, aircraft.
Smoking and secondary smoke is proven to cause cancer: what part of that do these far right wing tea party hillbillies not get?
Vote GOP and get cancer from secondary smoke inhalation..
.
watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:55pmFYI…..It isn’t stoping at smoking…..Selective taxation of foods deemed undesirable or less healthy like soft drinks etc…..are nothing more than a way to manipulate and modify and therefore control personal behavior. Come to think of it……Let’s start a riot !!!!!
Report Post »Psytoxic
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:58pmWhy the hell should I have to move if someone sits down next to me spouting toxic fumes into the air I breathe?
Report Post »Lantern
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:59pm@Quagaar Warrior
Report Post »I don’t smoke, don’t like the smell, it killed my dad, but I won’t force my rights upon you if you wish to smoke. I’m not so anal that I am going to throw a hissy-fit if I see someone smoking, especially in Kentucky. I live in tobacco country, here in the tri-state of OH-KY-IN. It’s how the folks around here made/make a living and it would be hypocritical of me to be for a ban. Heck, I only live 7 miles from where white burley was discovered.
I am getting a little tired of everyone comparing this and that to Hitler.
GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 1:59pm@foolsgold
“Great — let the innocent kids and other adults breathe in cigar and cigarette fumes from patrons in hairdressing salons, diners, restaurants, aircraft.”
Those places used to and will post signs alerting you to the status of smoking on private property. All of your parade of victims have a choice, as individuals, to go in or not.
“Smoking and secondary smoke is proven to cause cancer: what part of that do these far right wing tea party hillbillies not get?”
You discredit your side of the debate immediately when doing this. Your point, if there was one (it was just a scare tactic) is not invalidated. Good job.
Freedom is risky. If you want a safe society, move to Germany.
Report Post »foolsgold
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:01pmHey, lets UNBAN DUI !! Its the NANNY STATE GONE WILD.
None of this deciding how much I should drink before I drive. Alcohol is legal, so why must the nanny state regulate how much I consume and where and when I chose to consume it, just like my cigars….
— See how crazy this anti public health stuff is? Get a real life, you far right wing tea partiers….
Report Post »CatB
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:01pmI agree … I am a lifelong non-smoker .. but it should be up to the busness if they want smoking on the premises or not .. post it on the door and I will know if I want to come in or not. I am pretty certain that some places would choose to be non-smoking … as some would choose to be smoking … big deal .. don’t like it — it’s a free country go somewhere else!
Report Post »rodamaa
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:02pmIt does not matter what it is. The Federal Government should not influence what the states do. Plain and simple. I never smoked but I will not tell anyone weather or not they should. I have my opinion but I will not volunteer or force upon anyone my way of life. Get out of people’s life for crying out loud!!
Report Post »Mannax
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:07pmWith the exception of places you have no choice about going, such as a government building, school, or hospital, I believe that it should be up to the owner of the establishment as to if there is smoking or not there. In government places, I will agree with a smoking ban.
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:13pmWill Obama see this as an excuse for the HHS to step in?
States’ rights? What are those?
Report Post »biggreenboo
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:16pm@F@GSGOLD
You are____ _______!!!!!!!!
Everyone insert your own insult.
Report Post »Ah, feels good… like blowin smoke on a baby.
BlazingInSC
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:17pmfoolsgold
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:01pm
Hey, lets UNBAN DUI !! Its the NANNY STATE GONE WILD.
None of this deciding how much I should drink before I drive. Alcohol is legal, so why must the nanny state regulate how much I consume and where and when I chose to consume it, just like my cigars….
— Apples and oranges. Because unlike cigarette and cigar smoke – alcohol is a debilitating drug that alters reflexes and increases the risk of operating a motor vehicle. Want to lob another red herring over the fence? –
See how crazy this anti public health stuff is? Get a real life, you far right wing tea partiers….
— Can you ever actually debate using facts without ad hominem attack dog tactics? Just curious because all I ever see from your trolling posts is vile, hate-filed, urine coated spew.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:19pm@foolsgold
“@GHOSTOFJEFFERSON
Let me guess: you are very happy to blow smoke next to a baby. ”
I don’t smoke.
“Its the kids mamma’s fault — she shouldnt have taken the baby there becoz YOUR right to smoke is higher than the mammas right not to have her kid suffer from blinding cancerous smoke.”
And this is true. The mother has the responsibility to care for her child, not me. She is an individual with the freedom to choose not to go into a bar or restaurant with a baby in tow. That’s called freedom, you don’t get to dictate to others how they should act.
“Im quite sure that you do that at your home to your family…. sicko”
Your constant ad hominem makes it so very easy for me to pick your pseudo-logic apart and hang it out to dry for all to see. You may wish to reconsider your emotionalism and pathos/insult based rhetoric, I eat that kind of thing for a snack after dinner. :)
Slainte friend.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:20pm@Psytoxic
“Why the hell should I have to move if someone sits down next to me spouting toxic fumes into the air I breathe?”
You don’t have to move, you can remain seated. The owner of the property, which is private property, will have alerted you to the status he/she allows on his/her private property, and you can decide before you ever sit down whether to “risk it” and have somebody sit down next to you who smokes. Hope this clears things up for you a bit.
Report Post »Psytoxic
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:26pm@GhostofJefferson
Report Post »While I thoroughly enjoy your many posts on this site, we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one. This topic is very complex and I had forgotten how passionate I get about it. Let‘s just say I’m glad I live in Mesa, AZ where the majority decided on this issue a decade ago.
foolsgold
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:29pm@BLAZINGINSC
Your logic shows you’re happy with many aspects of the nanny state, just not those that may affect you. Hence in your world the nanny state is OK to regulate drinking, drugs, no lead in paint and fuel, but not anything else that may offend you sense of entitlement and freedom? Makes complete sense…
Report Post »Clark
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:46pmTobacco is legal FOR NOW anyway, but if the libs have their way, it won’t be….
Report Post »TERMLIMITSNOW
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 2:58pm@foolsgold, you’ve been smacked down, give it up.
Report Post »docvet
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 3:05pmSmoking affects everybody around you. Stop it!
Report Post »Swearing affects everybody around you. Stop it!
Saying unkind words affects everybody around you. Stop it.
Since anything you say can be offensive to somebody. talking – Stop it!
Breathing takes oxygen out of the air in a room. Go outside and stay there!
Football causes the death of trees in Auburn, AL. Stop it!
Eating unhealthy food influences everybody around you. Stop it!
Going to a church that someone else doesn’t believe in offends them. Stop it!
JUST STOP EVERYTHING SOMEONE ELSE DOESN’T LIKE! Stop it !Stop it! Stop it!
JoeBtfsplk
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 3:36pmHooray for Daniel Boone and Kentucky.
Tabaccy is here to stay.
Report Post »HillBillySam1
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 3:37pm@FOOLSGOLD
Report Post »Them‘s my kinsfolk that you is insultin’ buddy!!! You best be backin’ off to Mamby-Pamby Land slow and steady like…….You have seen the movie “Deliverance”, haven’t you?? Cousin‘ Cleatus takes a shinin’ to you Yankee Revenewers when y‘all come a visitin’ these here parts……
watchtheotherhand
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 4:09pm@ FOOLSGOLD…..Why stop at smoking, there are plenty of things we could ban, MSG, Harsh perfumes that cause headaches, empty calorie foods that lead to obesity (studies show this ain’t good), really really hot coffee (cuz that just plain hurts), people wearing pants that reveal their cracks (my kids most definitely should not be subjected to that,,,whew). Wait a minute………. are you for legalizing marijuana? I bet you are, aren’t you? C’mon be honest …….you are right?
Report Post »tranquilraider
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 4:19pmWatchtheotherhand,
Report Post »I’m for legalizing weed, but I still think there should be laws against smoking it in public.
leftiesaredangerous
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 4:37pmThis is the kind of revolution we need.
Report Post »jhaydeng
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 5:52pmI don’t smoke, but grew up in a family of smokers. Ironically all have/had cancer or breathing problems. Anyway, smelling smoke while eating dinner is pretty unappetizing in my opinion. I believe that each establishment should decide to allow or not allow. Kinda like gay bars! I am free to go to one, but probably wouldn’t have much fun……“insert joke here”
Report Post »Chris G
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 6:45pmAfter reading the above comments I feel confident that marijuana smokers will eventually be able to enjoy the freedom that tobacco smokers now enjoy. It’s the only common sense policy to have.
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 11:31pmGlad to hear SOMEWHERE in this country… SOMEONE has enough nerve to STAND UP and send the NANNY PACKING.. they will not be the BUTT of jokes they will be the inspiration for counties, cities, states that are FED UP with being told what to do and how to do it.. WHO knows people may start REVISING the bans on the rest of the stuff.. we can only PRAY.. here in IL there are places that just ignore the ban on smoking and IF they get fined they have a fund that everyone puts into every time they go in just to pay it..Other places just ignore it all togeather.. have smoking rooms in the back.. etc.. They lost FAR to much business to push the issue..
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on February 17, 2011 at 11:40pmoh no maybe Kentucky will get the False Flag attack this time ?
Report Post »goofey
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 8:12amSmoking must affect the brain because smokers are really stupid in more ways than one. Your “right” to smoke does not give you the right to poison the air for nonsmokers.
BooButtBrown
Posted on February 18, 2011 at 1:21pmI live in Colorado. We have a smoking ban here. Everyone said it would hurt business and it hasn’t. If someone wants to inhale that toxic stuff because they have no self control…let them do it in their cars or their homes. It is not right to allow selfish people to cause harm to another. Second hand smoke causes cancer! All us non-smokers are asking is that we be allowed to breath clean air…is that too much to ask?
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