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Noise Drives Pennsylvania Restaurant to Ban Kids Under 6

Fox News:

MONROEVILLE, Pa.– A restaurant in western Pennsylvania says it’s no longer allowing children under age 6.

McDain’s Restaurant and Golf Center in Monroeville says the new policy will take effect July 16.
Restaurant owner Mike Vuick said there’s “nothing wrong with babies, but the fact is you can’t control their volume.” He said all that screaming and crying disturbs many of his customers.


Stephanie Kelley, of Trafford, has been a weekly customer of McDain’s Restaurant and Golf Center. Not any more.
“I can’t believe this. I am offended. This is just an ignorant policy,” Kelley told Team 4 investigator Jim Parsons.In an email sent to loyal McDain’s customers, owner Mike Vuick wrote, “Beginning July 16, 2011, McDain’s Restaurant will no longer admit children under six years of age. We feel that McDain’s is not a place for young children. Their volume can’t be controlled and many, many times, they have disturbed other customers.”

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  • GulfPeg
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 5:51am

    Stephanie Kelley, I, yes me, am OFFENDED by children not only screaming and crying, but throwing food on the floor, poop smell, etc., etc. Want me to draw a picture?

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    • 408 CheyTac
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 11:50am

      Exactly.

      One has to ask themselves what kind of inconsiderate old-bag thinks her right to drag her brats into an establishment is more important than the enjoyment of the people already in the place.

      All this story needs is some crazed woman raving about her right to breast feed in public, then it would be complete.

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  • GulfPeg
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 5:42am

    I should think that more and more restaurants are going to be “children under 6 not allowed or not welcome to make it more PC”. People will not only enjoy their meals, but the restaurant owners will have to clean up less because there won’t be food thrown on the floor. Last, but not least, we will be able to enjoy a nice meal. It isn’t fair that we spend our hard earned money and not be able to enjoy a meal!

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    • fatsomann
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 10:14am

      Good point about the mess. People are willing to let kids do in public places what they won’t let them do at home. I have seen tables in restaurants that look like a war zone when a family leaves. Someone has to clean it up and I am sure this takes away from taking care of other customer needs.

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  • CitizenCindy
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 5:39am

    It’s really not about the kids . . . it‘s about the parents that refuse to take responsibility for their childrens’ obnoxious behavior. Back in the day, when my siblings and I were youngsters, if we acted up we were removed from the premises by our parents, not by a ban on admittance but on a ban instilled by our parents. We enforce the same rules for any youngsters in our charge to this day.

    While I agree 100% that it is the restaurant (Country Club) owner’s prerogative to set the rules of admittance, I do find it beyond sad that those who try to teach their children good manners are penalized because those that are too lazy to do so let their children run and scream slipshod, at will in any home or business or public place.

    Children aren’t naturally horrible. Parents, guardians and the care takers many of them trust to raise their children – - that don’t “teach the children well” – - are the real culprits with behavior that deserves to be banned from polite society.

    Too bad there is no way to admit the children with the benefit of the doubt, while making the idiot adults wait in the parking lot for a bone in the doggie bag . . .

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  • poverty.sucks
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 5:16am

    When you‘re being served food and there’s a sense you’re not wanted, don’t wait for the policy to take effect. My kids get excited every now and then, if I’m not getting exception service, I won’t return.

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  • judostatic
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 4:52am

    i am all for kids i am not some lib who wants population control but i have to say if your an adult setting in an adult restaurant and someone brings in a baby and the baby cries for 2 and a half hours while the parents sit there eat and ignore the kid like he doesn‘t exist tell me is that fair now granted if your at a family friendly restaurant i understand and support that but in an adult setting and the parents don’t even try to silence the kid no way i have left over that because if they kid screams and be quiets i understand for them to do this they had to get complaints witch then i understand so again don;t be so quick to call it a liberal attack on families iwhen it isnt

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    • GrannyATL
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:27am

      Judostatic, you point out another very glaring difference between the generations — punctuation and grammar. It boggles my mind how many young adults write on and on and on without so much as a period or comma.

      Were your English teachers asleep on the job? Did your parents just ignore your lack of English skills?

      Unfortunately, like the clueless parent, young adults who refuse to use correct punctuation cite their “right” to do things their own way, oblivious to the fact that their writings are nearly impossible to decipher. Good luck in the business world, Judostatic.

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    • ME
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 10:06am

      Nothing worse then grammar police. If you have nothing to add to the conversation but that you are smarter and better “learned” then us grammar challenged go 43546534534 off. If you want to sum it up and throw down on a math challenge good chance I will win, the spelling bee you can have. I have never seen a spelling or grammar question on an IQ test. Yea real easy to get around in the business world too, I just sign there pay checks and they seem to overlook the rest weird how that works I am sure they would have an issue if I messed up the math though:)

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    • Zorro6821
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:39pm

      to “ME”… IQ tests certainly do have grammar and spelling as part of the overall evaluation. Poor grammar is problematic in this country. The ability to communicate and articulate a thought is something that is essential in business. I really cannot see how you can get ahead in business without good communication skills. The dumbing down of America is real. Just turn on your TV or watch a movie “Transformers” and listen to Lady Gaga.

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  • likwidlizard
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 4:13am

    If I ran an up to par place like this, I wouldn’t want a bunch of loud screeching kids in there bothering my guest either. Eating in this place is a ‘priviledge’. Sure you have your ‘rights’. And the mgmt. has their rights to ask you to leave. No sweat off their back. If people don‘t want to CONTROL their offspring then go somewhere where they can get as wild as they want and you don’t have to except RESPONSIBILITY for it. This is the problem now. Parents won’t take responsibility and they expect everyone to kiss their *ss for it.

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  • lobo2525
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 4:06am

    Table for two please!…. I dont think this would have happen years ago..It has always been the rule in my family unruly kids ..”.thats it outside we go”. Kids soon get the message, problem today is kids are just left to scream yell and go crazy. Its a smart business move by the resturant..

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  • Canon20
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 3:45am

    I have kids.. love them.. but they don’t need to be in a nice restaurant if they are going to be disruptive. I’m totally okay with the ban. If I want to take my kids out, we go to a kid-friendly place. Plain and simple. Wish more people would.

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    • brewnana
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 5:42am

      I agree you should not have to put up with whining kids, running around when you are out for a nice meal.

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    • Thatsitivehadenough
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:09am

      I’m ok with it too. That‘s why they have ’family restaurants’. Don’t take your kid to a place where people are intentionally going for the ambiance and expect to be popular. Nice restaurants are for adults and their kids who are old enough to behave in an adult manner for at least a couple of hours..
      sorry…

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  • MidwestMomof3
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 3:40am

    I’m th parent of one of those (sometimes) screaming young children…and I applaud this decision!!!

    Even though I listen to my son daily, there are times when even *I* want to get away from him and THIS would give me a great reason to be able to! LOL

    It‘s bad enough when he decides it’s time for an outburst in McDonalds (and I will interject that Ronald McDonald House Charities are a GREAT thing….saved us when my son was born and spent well over a month in the hospital…I was able to be right there!) but nothing is more embarassing than for him to act-up at a “nice” place.

    Good for them and I hope they have great success!! (And wish I lived closer!!)

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  • FToth84
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 3:06am

    100% the business owner’s CHOICE. Mr. Vuick took the risks to start the company. His choice is law at McDain’s Restaurant. If his decision hurts his business. Well, I bet his decision with change, back to the way it once was.

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    • Bluebonnet
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:10pm

      And I bet he’ll have more customers than ever due to this change. Who wants to go out for a meal that costs too much and be disturbed by these noisy kiddies?

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    • Red1492
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 2:59pm

      It may very well have the opposite effect. I live in the south were everything (except bars / strip clubs) is pretty much family friendly. A restaurant went to a no kids under 10 policy and lost over half it’s business. They reversed the policy but everyone remembered and the business ended up closing. Places like this in other areas of the country where children are abhorred will work well. i.e. New York, Seattle, Boston, San Francisco etc.

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  • orlandojon
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 3:04am

    Don’t understand what is so controversal, business owners should have the right to serve who they want. Noise is the last thing you want when you decide to spend your hard earned money out to eat. Too many parents do nothing to control their kids in public.

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    • MIBUGNU2
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 6:43am

      Kudo’s to the owner !! Take the little BRATS to Mickie D’s, better for
      them and the people who don’t want to listen to children screaming…
      while having a nice dinner..No Problem. ..Stephanie get over it….

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    • cosette
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:07am

      This is the direct result of poor parenting. It’s a shame that parents with a sense of propriety are to be punished because the majority of parents today have no concept of consideration for others. If I enter a restaurant and there are too many children present I leave. Not because I dislike children, but because past experience has taught me well.

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    • THIS GENERATION
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:16am

      you’re on point ORLANDOJON. Not only does business have the right whom to serve but their patrons also have the right to a quite meal.Since Stephanie Kelley, of Trafford doesn’t like it, too bad. Find another place that will accept you and your noisy kids. This wouldn‘t be a problem if parents stop giving kids ’time-out’ which, after all these years doesn’t work. A little spank on their rear, may hurt a little, just enough to let them know you mean business and they will learn respect. Just to make sure no one misunderstands, I didn‘t mean to ’beat‘ but ’spank’. in case Stephanie doesn’t know the difference check these out. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/spank and http://www.thefreedictionary.com/beat

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  • Casca
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 2:45am

    Now if only theaters would babies. And only allow parents to bring children to kid’s movies.

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    • Uranium Wedge
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 3:01am

      Its not the babies in theaters, its “adult” people thinking the world revolves around them

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    • yougottabekidding
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:22am

      The people paying for the service deserve to have some peace and quiet. Who the hell are you to force a crying screaming kid on people that want to sit down and relax.
      I raised 4 kids and never did I ever force people to listen to my kids scream and carry on. On one occasion on vacation I walked out of a eating establishment mid meal, payed for it and appologized to everyone for disturbing them, but some people that have kids figure “up yours” this is my kid and he can do what he wants. Which means smokers should be able to sit along side of your little brat and puff in his face.(I dont smoke and do not like it)
      On the other hand I have chastised some college girls at a Saturday matinée of Fantasia cause they were complaining about the noise. There and then you expect it.
      Surprise I have seen more then one kid trip as they flew around the eating establishment, kids are so doppey

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    • Casca
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 1:30pm

      Sorry, left a word out. ‘Ban’ babies. And only allow kids into ‘G’ rated movies with a parent.

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  • REDBLOODEDHUSKER
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 2:38am

    Hey, this is pure capitalism. If this decision flops he’ll lose business and change his policy. If it works, more people will come to eat there. Ahhh, freedom! plus it’s not like ALL kids are banned, just those under 6. (Which, could be lower if parents took CATB’s advice and taught their kids proper manners for a public place.)

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  • Diane TX
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 2:30am

    Sounds good to me. If your child is throwing a temper tantrum, it is the parent’s/grandparent’s responsibility to remove that child from the restaurant, movie, concert or other public assembly, so that others that are there to enjoy the public event are not disturbed

    If you are the type of parent that doesn’t believe that your child should be restricted in any way, please keep your unruly child at home.

    All children need to learn that they can’t always have what they want. Parents and guardians do a grave disservice to children by allowing them to act out, as they please.

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  • Captain Crunch
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 2:17am

    My children have ALWAYS been well manored and made us proud as parents in public. Whenever I’ve seen obnoxous children in restraunts, department stores, etc the first thing I do is watch the parents and make a judgement about the parents intellegence and general mentality. Some parents are absolutely pathetic! They are as unruly and obnoxous as their children. I think the restraurant needs to ban parents who have the mentality of six year olds.

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    • mbguy02
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 2:45am

      The 1st comment that makes any sense. I live in a beach resort town and dine in many rest. Kids are inevitable, but who are most of you to attack children in this fashion. Most young kids are talkitive and need to be occupied, so if they act up a little who cares. Most of have had little ones. How would you feel if someone threw you out. If so many people are complaining and it seems this country club is snooty, why would you bring kids there anyway. I’ve been to counrty clubs where the adults were they annoying ones. You people are starting to sound like those you detest.lighten up, save it for the imprtant stuff.

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    • brewnana
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 5:43am

      True!

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    • jedi.kep
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 7:22am

      I like that!

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    • quicker
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 7:45am

      Also need to do something about cell phones .How many times have my wife and I set down at a restuarant,only to have our meals interrupted by people talking loudly on cellphones.

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    • wingedwolf
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 10:15am

      Quicker, that is so true. I put my phone on vibrate, leave the table and go to the lobby to take a call (only from my dad or his cardiologist, really bad ticker) If it‘s not him or his doctor’s office, it can wait. WTH did we do before there were cell phones?

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  • Sean In LI
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 2:13am

    I feel like taking a trip to PA and giving that guy some business. Nothing worse than some little **** behaving terribly, and the parents of the new millenium trying to reason with little Dakota or Britney, or worse, just ignoring the screaming of their own children.

    Good for him.

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  • ds9kicks
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 2:06am

    I agree wholeheartedly with this policy. Parents who bring their baby or loud kids to a restaurant don’t seem to realize they are subjecting everyone around them, or in the case of a crying baby, the entire restaurant, to the agitation.

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  • federalistgirl52
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 2:00am

    FREEDOM!!!! You have the right to have whoever you want in your business and exclude who you don’t . FREEDOM!! Yes it may offend some people. But as it is well understood, this is America and you have the Freedom to conduct your business as you see fit.

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    • Zorro6821
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 9:06pm

      “Freedom” oh please give me a break!!! Freedom was like so yesterday.

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  • Psychosis
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 1:59am

    complaining parents…………………control your freakin kids and this wouldnt happen

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  • Ron_WA
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 1:46am

    Good for that restaurant – they have the right to refuse service & create whatever dining environment they want.

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  • seon
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 1:35am

    That’s capitalism. Now if only they’d ban screaming kids at supermarkets.

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    • CatB
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 1:56am

      Oh God I agree Seon .. I used to try going at night .. people would have kids in there overly tired in the PJ’s for goodness sake. One day a week .. I would shop on that one day .. I am so sick of being run into or tripped by brats running loose … my son refers to them as “orphans” because they apparently have NO PARENTS!

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    • Zorro6821
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:55pm

      “that’s capitalism” No it’s just common sense. Every restaurant in the world is capitalism. Does everything have to be political. Capitalism, Socialism…yada yada yada. I like commonsensism. I think I will start a new party called the Common Sense Party as I hate these stupid partisan labels’.

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  • cheezwhiz
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 1:33am

    Good.
    Now customers can have a meal in peace …I hope that business thrives

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  • patriot308
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 1:33am

    This should be an interesting experiment. Do you attract more business by banning youngsters or do you drive away more parents and babysitting grandparents?

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 1:37am

      There are many many many people who like to have a nice conversation with their meal, while eating out and once they have a noisy experience at any eatery because of other peoples’ unruly kids, they never go back . Not only that , they let other similar people know about it so that they don’t go there either .
      ( this is a dirty lil secret but here it is)

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 3:02am

      We went out to dinner last night, a toddler was screaming for about 5 minutes with the mother yelling at her for the whole time. I would definitely go to a restaurant that did this.

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    • BigSky
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 3:23am

      I went to an Olive Garden the other day and there was a kid who had to be 13 years old at the table across from me screaming because he refused to eat everything on his plate.

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    • Steve
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 4:26am

      Exactly ! let the free market work this out.

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    • Mark Meed
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 4:53pm

      I suspect they’ve already done the math, but your point is on the money (pun entirely intended).

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  • geonj
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 1:33am

    well, it is his right. but he will lose business.

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    • CatB
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 1:53am

      I would eat there! Heck I wouldn’t have to cook anymore if I lived close by .. unfortuantely from the brats I have seen in restaurants they need to make the age older .. say 18 or 21. People need to teach their children good manners .. but it is hard when they don’t have any either.

      We started taking our son out to eat when he was a baby …. he knew how to act when eating at home or out .. manners should be used in both places.

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    • BigSky
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 3:18am

      Unless you cry at the dinner table, you’re not excluded from dining there.

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    • BarbieDoll
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 2:07pm

      The only business he will lose is inconsiderate parents with screaming kids.

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  • dcwu
    Posted on July 10, 2011 at 1:32am

    Beats chloroform and duct tape.

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    • Rogue
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 1:35am

      oh, snap.

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    • Sean In LI
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 2:10am

      Cold as ice, but doesn’t make it any less true.

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    • Uranium Wedge
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 2:56am

      Stop waiting around to be offended, and just take your screaming brat to McDonalds.

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    • fastfacts
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 3:34am

      WHY IS THE WORLD TURNING AWAY FROM CHILDREN THESE DAYS…

      The liberal left/feminists want all women to work, none to stay home if they want. Hollywood shows having kids as a gimmick (remember the fake baby fad), liberals attack McDonalds for selling toys with kids meals, and my least favorite, the demonizing of people that desire to have more than one child. This last one you hear non-stop in the liberal media and by liberals in public.

      Then you have the media attack the kids that ‘survive’ with people/‘role models’ like Rihanna and Lady Gaga. Have you ever seen how kids react to Lady Gaga and what they think of her, funny and yet scary: http://tiny.cc/30k14

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    • ShyLow
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 4:37am

      Why did the biker-gang choose to eat at the Dairy Queen? Because there was to many screaming kids at the Hooters…T&A and free UFC PPV…why not bring the kids…I wish someone would start a night-club near me,banning white-hoodrats

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    • Grasshopper42
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 4:40am

      What is wrong with parents today? My bride and I have raised six daughters. We taught them proper manners when growing up. If they started to ‘act up’ in public, we took the aside and explained the facts of life to them! If we had to, we even took them out to the car, and let the rest of the family enjoy their meals. Come on people, grow a pair . . .

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    • yougottabekidding
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 8:55am

      ShyLow
      A racist is always a racist they work race into things that have nothing to do, even remotely, with race

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    • Jenny Lind
      Posted on July 10, 2011 at 12:47pm

      outstanding!

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    • waicool
      Posted on July 11, 2011 at 1:14pm

      brilliant

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