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Norway Killer Returns to Island Massacre Site for Police Investigation

Norway Killer Anders Behring Breivik Returns to Utoya Island Massacre Site for Police Investigation

Anders Behring Breivik, 32, arrested in connection with the twin attacks on a youth camp and a government building in Oslo, Norway was brought back to the island crime scene Saturday for a reconstruction of the July 22 terror attacks. (AP Photo/Twitter, Anders Behring Breivik, File)

OSLO, Norway (AP) — Held tightly on a police leash, the Norwegian man who confessed to killing 69 people at an island youth camp has reconstructed his actions for police back at the crime scene.

Police said Sunday they took Anders Behring Breivik back to the island of Utoya on Saturday for a hearing about the July 22 terror attacks, when Breivik shot the victims dead on the lake island near Oslo after killing another eight people in the capital with a bomb.

The 32-year-old described the killings in close detail during an eight-hour tour on the island, prosecutor Paal-Fredrik Hjort Kraby told a press conference in Oslo.

“The suspect showed he wasn’t emotionally unaffected by being back at Utoya … but didn’t show any remorse,” Hjort Kraby said.

Images of the reconstruction published in the Norwegian daily VG show Breivik simulating shots into the water, where panicked teenagers tried to escape from him.

The hearing took place amid a massive security operation that aimed to avoid escape attempts by Breivik and protect him against potential avengers.

Breivik’s lawyer has said he has admitted to the terror attacks, but denies criminal guilt because he believes the massacre was necessary to save Norway and Europe from Muslims and punish politicians who have embraced multiculturalism.

Initial speculation suggested others were involved in the terror attacks, but prosecutors and police have said they are fairly certain that Breivik planned and committed them on his own.

Breivik faces up to 21 years in prison if he is convicted on terrorism charges, but an alternative custody arrangement – if he is still considered a danger to the public – could keep him behind bars indefinitely.

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  • mikey1276
    Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:48pm

    The man should be afforded the right to repent ( not a phony admission of guilt to escape judgment) but having a heart truly sorry for the grief he has caused. Shortly thereafter he should be executed.

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  • The Gooch
    Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:10pm

    Eep.
    It is always eerily fascinating to see bias & plain ol’ crazy at work trying to rationalize the acts of human monsters.
    This lady on The Blaze keeps railing about Breivik as “a millionaire twice by the age of 24.” Eh, this is one of those little blurbs that burns me about this story: There are conflicting reports that this guy CLAIMED to have money, but was never what would have been deemed a success save in his own mind. And even if he was a billionaire, so what? That means his brand of crazy is acceptable?
    Another thing: Was Breivik Christian? Well, according to Breivik he is a “cultural Christian.” Listen, I get the argument: This guy doesn’t behave like MY version of how a Christian treats his fellow man & Breivik admits he is not “excessively religious.” No kidding. Here‘s where I believe you can draw a line with this man’s brand of crazy: Did God tell him to kill a bunch of people & shake up Norway & Europe in general? Nope. This is Breivik’s message, not any god’s.
    There’s stupid on both ends of the spectrum in analyzing this story. The right doesn’t wanna own him (& yet if Breivik is anything, he is a right wing nut), but the left wants to create this “Hall of Infamy” with a hodge-podge of members like McVeigh, Kaczynski & now Breivik. You have to be completely ignorant to even place ol’ Ted with these two. A Luddite is FAR from being a right wing activist. Ted was an eco-terrorist…accept it.
    Ugh, so much ugly & stupid.

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    • AB5r
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:16pm

      So with all of your blather, do you support multiculturalism and the Islamization of the West? If not then quit complaining and do something about it.

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    • The Gooch
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:55pm

      I sure as hell don’t support mass murder. Is Breivik a surprise? Not really. Hell, I‘d go so far as to say I’d expect such elements to rise in response to what is viewed as a dangerous, fundamentalist encroachment.
      What many of these posts indicate to me is that people like simple answers that feed their biases, regardless of their ideology and/or religion. Even conspiracists want to use events like this to forward their claims.
      This “my way or no way” mentality gripping the world is not going to see this decade end well. I don’t trust any entity that comes at me saying it has THE ANSWER. Do something about it? Okay, I plan to call all goons on their thuggish and simplistic behavior, right/left, religious/secularist. I trust none of you who tell me to bow to this entity or that state. These little “just us” clubs tend to get more and more exclusive. But have fun ripping each other apart.

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    • AB5r
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 4:04pm

      Gooch, you are all over the place, you don’t get to sit there thinking that you are somehow above it all, that all the rubes think it is there way or no way, that can somehow see through it all not take sides. Amazingly you talk about “this decade” as though anything is new. GET THIS THROUGH YOUR HEAD – Muhammad killed entire tribes of Jews in Arabia, he created a religion that is MORE THAN HALF hate speech directed at non-Muslims, there is no moderate Islam, there is nothing for you to negotiate with regarding Islam. If you are not AGAINST Islam and Jihad, they you ARE FOR the Islamization of the West and the extermination of our freedoms, freedoms that you TAKE FOR GRANTED. So quit kidding yourself, you have to choose sides, and yes, there are sides, and as long as you keep pretending otherwise, you are part of the problem.

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    • The Gooch
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 4:54pm

      Um… okay. Actually, I do agree with you that Islam as a medieval ideology used as a political tool is to be squelched when & where it rears its ugly, totalitarian head. My history of posts on this forum indicate that I’ve concluded that many a “moderate” Muslim is the guy or gal who doesn’t take up jihad… but is okay if their wacky neighbor, Ahmad the Irrepressible, takes up the sword. The history of Islam is laughable in its roots of Judaism… & hatred for the Jew. And, yes, from its inception, Islam has generally been a banner under which to make people submit. I stand firmly against the revisionists, apologists and enablers who “blather” about Islam being a religion of peace. Not per history.
      BUT explain to me how blowing up your own & killing the children of ideological opposites, NOT the threat you manifesto identifies as the end all be all enemy, makes any sense. This is like being dx’ed with lung cancer… and deciding to chop off you penis. That’ll show you, cancer! It‘s freakin’ crazy… it makes no sense. Am I supposed to rally around hate & go out and start gunning down all those people who make my check smaller and my life more chaotic? Watch out fat people & slugs on disability.
      Here’s a thought. Life is a gift, but it can be hard. Don’t muck it up for others. If & when Muslims do it, step on them. If & when, Norwegians do it, step on them too.
      Besides, this guys a little too fond of “dress up”… I smell a fruit.

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    • chazman
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 5:26pm

      … I’m sure this maniac enjoyed his time out of stir. Probably got a ***** being back on the island. I’m sure the Norwegian Police gave him a foot rub before he went to bed that night.
      Norwegians … what a pack of sheep. BBaaaahhh!!

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    • AB5r
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 5:49pm

      No one is defending this guys actions, but it is wrong to deny the issues he raised. The problem isn’t Christians, or Jews or “extremists, it is Islam, the core doctrines, the essence of Islam, what it is. That the left is on the side of Islam makes it a problem also, in fact it could be said that modern liberalism is MORE of a threat to the West than Islam, if only because of the delusional world view it has, and the fact that that world view will prevent the West from defending itself against the threat of Islam. All prior generations in the West knew what Islam was and treated it like the enemy it is. All non-Muslims, including the crazy people, will have to join together united against Islam if we are to avoid Islamization. Gays, straights, Jews, Hindus, Catholics, Evangelicals, whatever differences they have, they must unite around defending us all from Islam. Your attacks on various groups only helps Islam. In fact, the ORIGINAL conquests of Islam were successful largely because even then, one group of Christians were played against another group, Islam, created by and inspired by Lucifer, is a “perfect” system for exploiting all of the weaknesses of man and of mankind. As long as all of the various groups in the West are arguing among themselves about Islam, Islam is winning.

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  • Christian Kalgaard
    Posted on August 14, 2011 at 12:52pm

    if you fools don’t understand that this is a set-up then you don’t deserve to be anything but slaves to the NWO.

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    • AB5r
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:31pm

      Just want to let you know I responded to your comment but the censor blocked it for no apparent reason. It is always so frustrating and such a massive waste of time to spend time writing out comments, in this case I used the full characters available, and then have some twit block it for no reason.

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  • hi
    Posted on August 14, 2011 at 12:05pm

    This guy was clearly a nut and what he did was unacceptable.

    Just some interesting background info about Norway from a friend who lives there… The Muslim immigrants have come in and roped off numerous areas where Shariah Law takes place. They use all of the social services available and are bankrupting the system.

    We need to prevent that from happening here, through the law of course.

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    • hi
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 12:06pm

      My point is that the killer was mad about that. Of course he was nuts and shooting future lib politicians who allow this to happen was horrendous.

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    • Jack2011
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 12:27pm

      Not horrendous. Just wrong.

      Horrendous would have have been if he shot up a political group trying to SAVE EUROPE FROM MUSLIMS.

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    • kindling
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 12:35pm

      I can see this happening in this country soon. In fact it is happening in places in the east in Black communities. People get so upset with how government does things they just loose it. Our youth use force and the older ones sit on lawn chairs and listen to politicians talk about how they are going to change it. This man saw more of the same coming and decided to slow it down. He shows no remorse because he believes he did the right thing for the right reason. He did the wrong thing for the right reason. Personally I think he should have just moved rather than murder kids. But then again, where do you go? It is coming here.

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    • Mateytwo Barreett
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:12pm

      Noway (Norwegia to the southerners) has been under social attack for a while. All of Europe has. I now envoke the name of Glenn Beck. He had an author on his old show on HLN that had studied this for a while. He (the author) said Europe was done. Meaning that the muslims had taken them over. It was my contention, when this first happened, that Breivek went “berserk”. I stand by that statement.

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    • Patriot Z
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:47pm

      unfortunatly there ma coe atime wedo have to take up arms. we are seeingmore and more violent mob attacks. soon it will make london look like aparty. what will we do then? wait forthe govt to use it to declare matial law in order not to let “a crisis goto waste” this dude was a nazi, but it is sad that a nazi is the only one being realistic and talking about the elephant in the room. we are facing multiple enimies tha have not only openly stated they want to and will destroy us by any means neccesary. they have acted in this fashion as well. how can we honestly claim we deserve freedom when we are not even willing to defend it? if we think voting and pretty speecifying and signs will save us we are fools. if we are waiting for god to mirical our way out of this we are fools. work towards peace, but do not think you should not prepare for war. igts timefor the tea prty go get itshands dirty

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  • twotwins
    Posted on August 14, 2011 at 11:40am

    I just read the 2083 Declaration of Independence for Europe. You will be riveted to your seats. The man was a millionare twice over by age 24. There is no point in having children in Europe for some young people. What for? If you cannot afford to live like the politicians there – behind closed gates – then you are relegated to enclaves. I just read the REAL history of the Crusades from: 17 Tipping Points that changed the world. History tells a lot.

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  • Libby Tarian
    Posted on August 14, 2011 at 11:21am

    Has anyone ever explained why? it took the Oslo police 90(ninety) minutes to stop this murderer?
    That is a huge problem. Were they behind this?

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    • paperpushermj
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 12:20pm

      It took time for the man with the key to the arms locker to show up. First he had to find it then he had to drive all the way across town to the station that stored the police departments firearms. Then it took time for those officers who had the special training in the safe and proper use in firearm to gather together. Don’t get me started on the delay at the boat rental that needed a credit card to acquire the boats plus the boat owner following the law when they delayed the rescue mission while enough life vests where found for all passengers. Does that answer your Question Libby Tarian

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    • The Gooch
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 3:46pm

      Um… no, they were responding to a terrorist attack in Oslo. Breivik may be a narcissistic sociopath… but he’s a smart narcissistic sociapath. There is no Bigfoot alien flying the UFO to be found here. Just a one man show that gave his country the ol’ one-two.

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  • mygunsweetness
    Posted on August 14, 2011 at 10:55am

    Americans,here pretty soon we are going to have to make a choice between what is our God giving rights and what our so called government say’s is right.Our president has chosen muslim kings,dictators,communist,socialist leaders over us.That’s what his dad taught him,he is a muslim.I am a man that believes in God and Jesus Christ and do not believe the muslim faith is a true religion.So if we want to live the way God and our forefathers wanted us too and all of our men and women that has fought and died for we are going to have to choose.I choose GOD,FREEDOM,TRUTH,JUSTICE and the AMERICAN WAY.As long as I’m still breathing no new world order or sharia law.Did you know there are 80,000 armed un troops on American soil

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    • TroyBray
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 11:21am

      I love the irony. European lefties have made punishment of criminals a crime, and now they have this monster whose death would be the best contribution he ever made, and he kills dozens of people, and he’ll get a whopping 21 years. Then it is his right to be free again, the state has to prove he will be a threat to repeat (not just kill another person, but repeat the crime) to add another 5 years.
      But they wish they had a Texan running around now.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 3:36pm

      Really? And all of our troops are overseas. And here I did a thesis on why I didn’t think that Bush should be starting a war in Iraq. I thought we should be keeping our troops here to defend us since we had so many of the enemies already here.

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  • YesNdeedie
    Posted on August 14, 2011 at 10:52am

    As best as I can determine this heathen is guilty without any shadow of doubt by anyone. With the brutal, insane, non-human crime he committed I am curious why he is still breathing. Albeit no death penalty exists there are ways to accomplish a goal by accident.

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    • Jack2011
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 12:33pm

      A lot of people secretly cheer him on.

      Don’t judge him until you have SEEN PHYSICALLY what muslims have done and continue to do to Norway and Europe and as they will in the USA also. Muslims use your Christian forgiveness crap and gullibility AGAINST YOU.

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  • Carol Ingian
    Posted on August 14, 2011 at 10:51am

    Something just seems odd about this story, bringing Breivik back to the scene…
    He has already admitted guilt. Maybe they were hoping someone would shoot him while they were out? This is one of those stories that seems like only the surface is exposed.

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  • BeckaBrwnEyes
    Posted on August 14, 2011 at 10:22am

    I know this man is Norwegian and not German, but every time I see a picture of him, I can visualize him in his SS uniform, leading the Jews off the trains at Auschwitz and straight to the gas chambers. He has that look in his eyes. Gives me the creeps.

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    • JMorcan
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 10:37am

      When this story first broke, everyone here blasted the then-unknown killer as a Muslim. Morons.

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    • aro5o75
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 10:46am

      Yea JMORCAN, you moron.
      I wonder where anyone would have gotten that idea?…moron.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 10:52am

      You are wrong…he would have been one of the ones with courage enough to fight for the Jews..Though the Bible teaches us to love our enemies and do good to those who persecute and abuse you…Anders probably hadn’t learned that. That takes a “Spirit filled Christian” and it was not possible until Jesus/Yeshua’s work on the cross. It’s much harder to be a martyr than to go on offensive..It is an inate human traight to want things to go the right way in this world.. at least for righteous people. But we have to trade our self righteousness for the rightteousness of God. As I understand it, God will use our enemies to do our battles. But I am not sure because God knew us all from the foundations of the world, and he knew the day we would pass from this world. The important thing is..will we be ready?

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    • KICKILLEGALSOUT
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 10:53am

      Yes JMoron, then the very next day Muslims murdered an 8 year old boy because the police would let their terrorist friends out of prison.

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    • dusko
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 10:55am

      The entire main stream media said it was Muslim. Then a Muslim group took credit for the event very early on. So if you are saying the it was just us racist blaze readers then you have your head buried in the sand.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 11:16am

      @JMorcan
      lol. The left thought the killer was a Muslim too. Morons.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 11:36am

      ashestoashes,
      Are you saying that Spirit-filled Christians will not fight to defend the Republic if need be?

      This man was no Christian. That is a fabricated lie. We cannot murder, and in fact would not want to. That kind of martyrdom, “living by the sword,” belongs to the followers of Allah/Satan. However, nowhere in the Bible is a Christian forbidden to kill when evil attacks. We are called to be meek, not weak.

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    • Jack2011
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 12:39pm

      kryptonite
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 11:36am

      ashestoashes,
      Are you saying that Spirit-filled Christians will not fight to defend the Republic if need be?
      ______
      I don’t know about the other commenter but YES. I would say that.

      By the time Christians quit genuflecting to muslims to avoid any hint of political correctness and have turned their Christians cheeks (face and a&&) repeatedly and harder each time that Christians FINALLY SEE THE LIGHT, it will be too late. Christians will be wearing the equivalent of a yellow Jewish star on their clothing but don’t worry, the imman told Hannity WHEN muslims take over the USA, they will treat non-muslims with kindness – just not with the same rights.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:27pm

      Jack2011
      ashestoashes,
      Are you saying that Spirit-filled Christians will not fight to defend the Republic if need be?
      ______
      I don’t know about the other commenter but YES. I would say that.
      —————-
      Passiveness in the face of evil is not of God. Maybe some Christians don’t understand that, but they are not being led by the Spirit. Here‘s how we Christians don’t go wrong. We humble ourselves and pray, so God guides our actions.

      That said, Muslims will take over the world after Christ raptures the Church. Those left behind will have two choices: wear the Mahdi’s number and be damned for eternity, or be tortured and beheaded. It is all written and will come to pass, like it or not, so it would be wiser for you to seek God now, instead of bashing Christians.

      I don’t know if America will survive communism, let alone Islam. But we can’t act stupidly, to put it in the traitor’s own words.

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    • YellowFin
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 2:51pm

      Kryptonite: You said; “Muslims will take over the world after Christ raptures the Church. Those left behind will have two choices: wear the Mahdi’s number and be damned for eternity, or be tortured and beheaded. It is all written and will come to pass, like it or not, so it would be wiser for you to seek God now, instead of bashing Christians.”

      Where would I go in the Bible to verify your statement?

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 4:31pm

      @Kryptonite..You have a point. Some will be martyred, others will fight. Some will fight and be martyred. All that I am sure of is that I want to be obedient to God and listen for His voice For the greatest tradgedy in my life would be to not obey God and to not be loved by Him. You know, the Japanese are noted for replying, when asked why they didn’t just come on into our country and attack us and take us by storm, that it was “Because the citizens of America are armed.” We all need to be on our knees giving glory and thanks to God. For He said if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.(2Chronicles 7:14) I am definitely pro second amendment rights. I am a person of God and I am a Constitutionalist, and I stand for Israel.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on August 15, 2011 at 4:02am

      @YellowFin
      Where would I go in the Bible to verify your statement?

      Perry Stone has a great 7-part series on the Rapture:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_qF8OaONNU

      Regarding the Mahdi, the most important hadiths have this to say about him:

      * He will conquer the world for Islam.
      * He will rule for seven years.
      * He will rule from Jerusalem.
      * He will persecute and kill Jews and infidels who refuse to submit to Islam.
      http://andrewidodo.multiply.com/journal/item/668

      Given the similarities and how current events are unfolding, it stands to reason that the Islamic Mahdi and the Antichrist are one and the same. IMO, the most telling verse in the Bible is Rev. 20:4, since Islam is the only political system in the modern world that beheads dissenters. I used to think that verse was symbolic, but now I know it is a literal description of the massive beheadings that will take place under the Antichrist.

      The mark of the beast/Antichrist: Rev. 13: 16-17.
      Eternal damnation for those who take the mark of the beast: Rev. 14: 9-11

      Hope this helps.

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  • tifosa
    Posted on August 14, 2011 at 10:10am

    He bought the high capacity clip in the U.S. by mail. Congrats, NRA.

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    • JRntEwing
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 10:21am

      @ Tifosa

      For all the push back this guy got from his victims he probably could have been successful with a single shot pistol.

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    • BeckaBrwnEyes
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 10:23am

      Really? I haven’t read that anywhere, but I’ll believe you. Regardless, he is responsible for his own actions, not the NRA. Come on.

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    • Libby Tarian
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 10:38am

      Wow, the NRA causes all this death and destruction. It is a choice to kill, ya think he could have used his hands?
      Ya think the bomb would not have gone off if there was no NRA?
      Ya think he could not have used a knife?
      Ya think people were not murdered before there were guns and bullets?
      You blame the people who made and sold swords and knives in the dark ages.

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    • dusko
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 10:51am

      Show even the slightest bit of proof of your statement. That he bought his magazines in the u.s. By mail order.

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    • drattastic
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 11:13am

      @tiFOOLsa
      What is a “clip” ? Learn your terminology if your going to spread your misinformation. No, I’m not going to tell the correct name, look it up.

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    • tifosa
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 12:01pm

      ‘Clip’ and ‘magazine’ are interchangeable in casual parlance. But I’d bet you could school me on his rw ideology too :^)

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    • Jack2011
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 12:41pm

      Big bad USA again. Go live in Norway if you don’t like the USA.

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    • tiredofdeception
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:16pm

      Since when is the NRA responsible for the actions of an individual? I suppose you blame the NRA for the riots in London as well?

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    • Mateytwo Barreett
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:20pm

      Heck! 90 minutes. Single shot rifle and hand reloads. Or black poowder musket! High capacity mag! How many straws do you grab at on time.

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    • The Gooch
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 1:40pm

      I never quite understand what a post like this is supposed to convince me of.
      - Even human monsters engage in world-spanning legal commerce. Okay. Sure.
      - The Second Amendment should be ignored & only the state should be armed as that will make us all safer. Hmmm, not according to history…. or the U.K.
      - Guilt by association, no matter how tenuous, means I can make any entity the REAL bastard to blame. Have at it. Bias knows no shame. What about all those dirty farmers insisting on using fertilizer to grow our food? I mean, they’re really just a cover for bomb making wackos, correct? Hmmm, what about the fertlizer manufacturers themselves? Time to shut them down. “Congrats, bomb suppliers!” Same logic.

      I looked into this further &, once again, this is an element that does not remain consistent. Some sources claim Breivik purchased magazines from a U.S. supplier, some sources claim he purchased ammo. Which the hell is it?!? A lot of the reporting is sloppy and can’t distinguish between magazines (or clips, if you please) vs. actual rounds. There is also lots of reporting on Breivik’s use of a “machine gun.” Well, there is no splitting hairs over whether his rifle was a machine gun: It is not. This is a matter of confusing a general form with actual function. But when do details matter when you can use one man’s actions to step on the rights of hundreds of millions. Details don’t matter… fear and govt. intervention do.
      Congrats.

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    • xenophyle
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 5:40pm

      His victims were mostly children. Nice sense of sympathy.

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    • Kodiakman
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 6:19pm

      LOL, so now it’s not just the guns killing people… It’s the clips! Clips kill people. Oh, whoa is me! If only he hadn’t had that high capacity clip! Then no one would have been murdered by the nut job intent on doing just that. It’s all the clips fault! Death to all high capacity clips! Melt the scourge that are high capacity clips!

      Clips don’t kill people, guns kill peop… Wait, that’s not right. Clips don’t kill people, clips in guns don’t kill people either. The A-Holes holding the gun, pointing it at innocent children and pulling the damn trigger killed those people. Get a friggin clue!

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    • The Gooch
      Posted on August 15, 2011 at 8:24am

      xenophyle,
      Arguing a point or responding to an ideological swipe doesn‘t mean any number of posters on this forum aren’t sympathetic to the wounded & grieving. Any time I see the “Blame the Wright brothers!!! Blame Twinkies!!! Blame whatever partisan-fueled bugaboo (e.g., guns) I wanna rail about!!!”, I’m gonna call BS. What Breivik did would make the most twisted Hollywood horror hack blush. By reports, this dude was cool & collected during the considerable amount of time he had to hunt. Kids begging for their lives, kids watching friends get gunned down… that’s inhumanity on a level many a conquering despot would admire. And it all could have been stopped with one armed victim turned defender.
      Breivik damn well knew he was wading into a circle of people who not only would likely never consider being armed, but whose trust in the state arguably rises above the norm. Young idealists who are gonna save the world thru talk? Nice notion… too bad there will always remain elements in humanity who would rather see you bleed than hear you speak. Breivik knows his “enemy” well. He knew he could surrender & knows he’ll be treated with kid gloves. You gotta wonder, at what point do we treat monsters like monsters?
      I‘m sympathetic but I can’t be sold on the foolish argument that if the “right” laws are passed & the “right” people are in charge, all bad things will end. I believe that’s what Ms. Tifosa is selling. Campaigning….

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  • affinnity
    Posted on August 14, 2011 at 10:00am

    I just believe this entire thing is some kind of warped minded conspiracy but I haven’t got enough real information to put the pieces together.

    Here’s what I have so far:
    1. Left says he claims to be a Conservative Christian and thus the Left says Christians are murderers like Muslim’s,
    2. He uses explosives and kills like a trained professional but he’s just an average Joe.
    3. Was a member of both the Nazi and Socialist parties – which makes no sense.
    4. He apparently is Anti-Muslim but didn’t kill a single Muslim.
    5. Although he was a Socialist he chose to kill Socialists.

    I don’t believe any of this crap.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 10:31am

      The kids were there for a pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel rally…right? Okay..if Anders was a socialist…you are right..he wouldn’t have wanted to be killing his own. After all.. we should all know by now what the Word of God says about standing for Israel or standing against Israel. God also says that it rains on the just and the unjust But I don’t care what happens…I am still obeying and will always obey God. What’s the chance that these kids had a Christian upbringing? They were there doing the very thing that God opposed. They can try to get rid of Christians all they want, but there still will be a reckoning on the great and terrible day of the Lord. And trust me….that day will come….no where to run…no where to hide.

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    • xenophyle
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 5:51pm

      Nazis were “National Socialists.” They rarely called themselves Nazis. Their political ideology borrows from both left and right wing movements. It doesn’t make sense to Americans, who are used to thinking in terms of “left” and “right,” because Nazism supports both taking over private industry, and suppressing marxists (who they accused of being part of a “Jewish conspiracy”).

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  • cloudsofwar
    Posted on August 14, 2011 at 9:57am

    just another NUT, thinks hes going to save everyone. I’ll save my country by murdering those i diagree with. sounds HITLER like to me. Hangman slack that rope.

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    • chips1
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 4:13pm

      If that is true, then he is one step ahead of Obama.

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  • mikee1
    Posted on August 14, 2011 at 9:53am

    He should be taken out and shot in the head with a SHOTGUN, COMPLETEY REMOVING THAT HEAD. That is what they would do in CHINA OR THE OLD SOVIET UNION. Of course, he would have not been able to commit his crimes in those places. THAT IS WHY western LIBERALISM IS LOSING. Even here, he would now be all LAWYERED UP AT TAX PAYERS’ EXPENSE.

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    • Erabin
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 10:05am

      “That is what they would do in CHINA OR THE OLD SOVIET UNION.”

      I have a feeling Norway doesn’t want to be like either of those. At all, really.

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  • prkw
    Posted on August 14, 2011 at 9:47am

    Norwegians = Eloi

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  • AB5r
    Posted on August 14, 2011 at 9:27am

    What this guy did was wrong, but ultimately, isn’t there going to be a civil war in the West? If Muslims are allowed to continue to spread in the West, and liberals continue supporting them, at some point, if those who want to save Western Civilization actually do want to save it, there will be a civil war in which the State is on the side of the Muslims. It is going to be really really ugly. Sadly, what this guy did will pale in comparison. Does anyone seriously think that there will be a peaceful way to get the left to change their views (they are 100% brainwashed, zero chance of reaching them) or Muslims (they are 1000% brainwashed, less than zero chance of reaching them) at any time before what has come to be known as Western Civilization no longer exists?

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    • Jack2011
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 9:33am

      Not a civil war.

      Another Crusades.

      Muslims raped/robbed/murdered and crushed every country in the world except a small part whose members fought to the death of most of the men that they even had a children’s crusade.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 10:09am

      It is sad that it turned out this way..but did you listen to the ones left over? This is the result of the “One World Order” indoctrination which has been happening in our own educatioonal system, mass media, and to the government. Can you believe all of the pro-Sharia Law appointees and the Communist (only heard of in Russia) Czars Ochmed has? It is simply mind blowing. In 1941, Hitler called the Grand Mafti of Israel (a Palestinian) to his side for the grand scheme of annilating Christians and Jews, hence the cojoining of two evils. Hitler, pretty smart for engaging a warring culture to do his bidding.. And we fund that warring culture with our money for their oil.We have been taken over from within.

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    • twotwins
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 11:36am

      I am an older woman. I read the entire 2083 Declaration of Indepence for Europe – the entire 1,518 pages.

      It is best to read it before making any further comments. The man was a millionare twice over by age 24 – what he says will rivet you to your seats.

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  • seaweaver
    Posted on August 14, 2011 at 9:17am

    What is going unnoticed in this is the children of the left.
    Did you see the pictures of the piles of bodies?
    They were herded together under the pretext of safety….
    but when the shooting started, scores waited their turn. Look at the concentration of the piles of bodies.
    The children of the Left waited their turn.
    No Flight 19 mentality.
    Not my son or his friends. Not the majority on his baseball team. They would have bull rushed him.
    cw

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    • AB5r
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 9:38am

      There were accounts of liberals approaching the gunman to “talk” with him and see what his problem was and work things out. He summarily shot them and so eventually the others learned at least that wouldn’t work. But as you say, there wasn’t any effort beyond that to actually stop him. It would have taken courage to try to attack him with rocks or sticks rather than escape to some other part of the island, if that was even possible, but you would think a normal population of individuals (not brainwashed liberals) would have done something to stop him before so many were killed. He wasn’t a physically imposing man, surely a group sneaking up from behind could have tackled him and wrestled the gun away.

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    • Jack2011
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 10:01am

      Talk with him???

      LOL LOL LOL LIke Obama will “talk” to the Iran president and all the other terrorist muslim leaders in the world and they will listen to him and stop killing. Obama TRIED THAT and FAILED. The world and our enemies know Obama is a weakling.

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    • Erabin
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 10:14am

      ” but you would think a normal population of individuals (not brainwashed liberals) would have done something to stop him before so many were killed.”

      Yep, like those brave children at Columbine who armed themselves with chairs and fire extinguishers to repel the killers. No wait… need a better example… I mean, the kids at Columbine were just children, right? Unlike those kids on that Norwegian island. Better examples, better examples…ah!

      The brave, professional soldiers at Ford Hood who, instead of running away and hiding from the gunman, ganged up on him and brought him down!

      Hm. Wait, that’s not a good example either.

      Nope, I got nothing.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 10:43am

      Erabin
      I agree in re Colombine. However, the Muslim terrorist at Ft. Hood WAS confronted and brought down. Fewer kids would have been massacred, if someone else besides this psycho had carried a gun.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 11:09am

      oops, Columbine.

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  • Tankertony
    Posted on August 14, 2011 at 9:16am

    They shoulda had him accidentally slip and fall and hit his head on the rocks a wee bit too hard. Schucks.

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  • igetit
    Posted on August 14, 2011 at 9:08am

    His stated target was Gro Harelm Brundtland who is responsible for Agenda 21 –the United Nations agenda to bring about one world government. The globalists are alligned with the radical islamists. Say NO to ICLEI in your hometown. Say no to Sustainable Development. These are both wolves in sheeps clothing. He was after the woman referred to as “mother earth” by her radical left followers.

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    • freeweever
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 9:26am

      Agenda 21 is so real it is scary, this movement is definitely the progressive one world government class of socialist controllers. If they are successful at this they will go down as the new Founding “Fathers and Mothers” In the New World Government and your vote will mean nothing like the EU. We have to stop them, they don’t care at all dear “Serfs” what we think about what is happening to us.

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 11:08am

      igetit: His stated target was Gro Harelm Brundtland who is responsible for Agenda 21
      ————
      He did a mighty poor job. The man is still alive, 77 innocent people died and 151 were injured. You think this bloodbath was justified?

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  • scrapadapolis
    Posted on August 14, 2011 at 9:03am

    Ok only 2500 more muslims need to die to make up for 9 11,This guy has a good start in my book.

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    • Jack2011
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 9:15am

      He didn’t kill muslims. He killed the politically correct members of a party who are currently in power who support the muslims. But, like you, I still don’t have sympathy for the dead either. I don’t condone what he did BUT I bet the Norway muslims and muslims around the world cheered at the dead atheists/acrostics (this is secular Norway) and/or Christians who died at the scene.

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    • Erabin
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 10:08am

      “Ok only 2500 more muslims need to die to make up for 9 11,This guy has a good start in my book.”

      Our little military engagements in Afghanistan and Iraq killed a few more than 2500 Muslim civilians. Are we going to call it a draw now or let them come and kill a few hundred thousands Americans now? Or is there a certain Muslim/American exchange rate that I’m not aware of?

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    • xenophyle
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 5:39pm

      You don’t have sympathy for the victims, who were mostly children?

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  • YepImaConservative
    Posted on August 14, 2011 at 8:49am

    Another misguided NY Times reader.

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  • ED4237
    Posted on August 14, 2011 at 8:41am

    To bad that nobody in Norway could own a hand gun that may have helped save lives if someone could have used it to kill this mororn. He doesn’t care he ment to kill these people in some belief that it would cause some kind of revelution in Europe. Norway can no prosecute him and he will get out and still have time to kill more and try again with his revelution, in the states life if not death for this mororn would fitting.

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    • Erabin
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 8:57am

      “To bad that nobody in Norway could own a hand gun”

      Incorrect. There are an estimated 1.3 million legally owned firearms in Norway at a population of close to 5 million. Please forget about that old “Europeans cannot privately own firearms” myth, guns are legal in all European countries.

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    • Jack2011
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 9:36am

      Liberals don’t believe in guns so even with access to them, refuse to have them. Their loss. Gene cleansed of more stupidity.

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  • Jack2011
    Posted on August 14, 2011 at 8:39am

    “He denies criminal guilt because he believes the massacre was necessary to save Norway and Europe from Muslims and punish politicians who have embraced multiculturalism.”
    _____________
    The small European countries feel the Islamic plague earlier because their populations are easily overtaken by muslims. When native Norway people wake up to hearing LOUD call to prayer chimes 5 times a day starting at 5:00AM in the morning and find their laws are either gone or subordinate to Sharia, they will wish they had listened to this guy. What he did was wrong, but he threw his life away to warn the politically correct let’s be tolerate Sheeple.. Hopefully they will listen.

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    • amerbur
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 9:07am

      You sound like those that say, the terrorist were wrong on 911, but….

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    • Jack2011
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 9:16am

      amerbur
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 9:07am

      You sound like those that say, the terrorist were wrong on 911, but…
      ______
      Muslims took out the towers. So sit on what’s left of the pointy tower top and spin.

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    • paperpushermj
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 12:37pm

      I think your choice of the word “WRONG” was at best understated.

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  • Christian Kalgaard
    Posted on August 14, 2011 at 8:28am

    false flag

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  • walkwithme1966
    Posted on August 14, 2011 at 8:28am

    How can he only be facing 21 years in prison – I don’t understand that!! I wonder how many like him are lurking around! http://wp.me/pYLB7-1nP

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    • Erabin
      Posted on August 14, 2011 at 9:01am

      21 years is the maximum sentence as regulated by law in Norway. Norwegians do not believe that people should have to spend all their lives in jail and firmly believe that people can change for the better. The Norwegian penal system is built around resocialization, not vengeance and is apparently highly effective.

      They have already stated that they will respond to the horrible acts of Breivik with even more openness, transparency and trust. It’s their way.

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