Norway Suspect’s Manifesto: Wanted Anti-Muslim Crusade, ‘Enablers of Islamization’ Would be Punished for ‘Treasonous Acts’
- Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:53am by
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EDS NOTE: IMAGE HAS BEEN DIGITALLY ALTERED BY THE ORIGINAL SOURCE TO REMOVE THE BACKGROUND - This image shows Anders Behring Breivik from a 1,500-page manifesto attributed to him that was discovered Saturday, July 23, 2011. Breivik is a suspect in a bombing in Oslo and a shooting on a nearby island which occurred on Friday, July 22, 2011. The document, which contained this and other photos, also described how to acquire explosives. (AP Photo/via Scanpix)
UPDATE: View the video Breivik is believed to have posted just before the attacks here.
OSLO, Norway (AP) — The man blamed for attacks on Norway’s government headquarters and a youth retreat that left at least 92 dead said he was motivated by a desire to bring about a revolution in Norwegian society, his lawyer said Sunday. A manifesto that he is believed to have written ranted against Muslim immigration to Europe and vowed revenge on “indigenous Europeans” who he accused of betraying their heritage.
Although the lawyer for the 32-year-old Norwegian suspect, Anders Behring Breivik, said his client acted alone, police conducted raids on a garage and sheds in an industrial neighborhood of eastern Oslo, said police officer Kjell Bjerklund.
Survivors of the mass shooting on Utoya island that killed at least 85 young people reported seeing two assailants, and police have said they were looking into those accounts and had not ruled out a second suspect. Another seven people were killed in Friday’s bombing in an Oslo government building.
In all, 93 people were killed and 96 wounded. There are still people missing at both scenes. Six hearses pulled up at the shore of the lake surrounding the island on Sunday, as rescuers on boats continued to search for bodies in the water. Body parts remain inside the Oslo building, which housed the prime minister’s office.
A manifesto published online – which police are poring over and said was posted the day of the attack – ranted that the European elite, “multiculturalists” and “enablers of Islamization” would be punished for their “treasonous acts.” Police have not confirmed that Breivik wrote the document, but his lawyer referred to it and said Breivik had been working on it for years.
The treatise ends with a detailed description of the plot, ending with a note dated 12:51 p.m. on July 22: “I believe this will be my last entry.”
Police and his lawyer have said that Breivik confessed to the twin attacks, but denied criminal responsibility for a day that shook peaceful Norway to its core and was the deadliest ever in peacetime. He has been charged with terrorism and will be arraigned on Monday.
Police Chief Sveinung Sponheim said a forensics expert from Interpol would join the investigation on Sunday. Other offers of international assistance have been turned down.
Norway’s King Harald V and his wife Queen Sonja and Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg joined mourners on Sunday at Oslo Cathedral, where the pews were packed, and the crowd spilled into the plaza outside the building. The area was strewn with flowers and candles, and people who could not fit in the grand church huddled under umbrellas in a drizzle.
The king and queen both wiped tears from their eyes during the service for “sorrow and hope.”
After the service, people sobbed and hugged one another in the streets as they streamed out of the cathedral. Many lingered over the memorial of flowers and candles.
More was coming to light Sunday about the man who police say confessed to a car bomb at government headquarters in Oslo and then, hours later, opening fire on young people at an island political retreat. Both targets were linked to Norway’s left-leaning Labor Party, and authorities have said Breivik held anti-Muslim views and posted on Christian fundamentalist websites.
“He wanted a change in society and, from his perspective, he needed to force through a revolution,” Geir Lippestad, his lawyer, told public broadcaster NRK. “He wished to attack society and the structure of society.”
Lippestad said Breivik spent years writing the 1,500-page manifesto entitled, “2083 – A European Declaration of Independence,” that police were examining. It was signed “Andrew Berwick.” The date was referred to later in the document as the year that coups d’etat would engulf Europe and overthrow the elite he maligns.
Sponheim, the police chief, said there was no indication whether Breivik had selected his targets or fired randomly on the island. The manifesto vowed revenge on those who it accused of betraying Europe.
“We, the free indigenous peoples of Europe, hereby declare a pre-emptive war on all cultural Marxist/multiculturalist elites of Western Europe. … We know who you are, where you live and we are coming for you,” the document said. “We are in the process of flagging every single multculturalist traitor in Western Europe. You will be punished for your treasonous acts against Europe and Europeans.”
The use of an anglicized pseudonym could be explained by a passage in the manifesto describing the founding, in April 2002 in London, of a group he calls a new Knights Templar. The Knights Templar was a medieval order founded to protect Christian pilgrims in the Holy Land after the First Crusade.
A 12-minute video clip posted on YouTube with the same title as the manifesto featured symbolic imagery of the Knights Templar and crusader kings as well as slides suggesting Europe is being overrun by Muslims. Police could not confirm that Breivik had posted the video, which also featured photographs of him dressed in a formal military uniform and in a wet suit pointing an assault rifle.
The video was a series of slides that accused the left in Europe of allowing Muslims to overrun the continent: One image showed the BBC’s logo with the “C” changed into an Islamic crescent. Another declared that the end result of the left’s actions would be an “EUSSR.”
Police spokesman John Fredriksen confirmed that the essay was posted the day of the attacks. The document signaled an attack was imminent: “In order to successfully penetrate the cultural Marxist/multiculturalist media censorship, we are forced to employ significantly more brutal and breathtaking operations, which will result in casualties.”
In the last 100 pages, the manifesto apparently lays out details of the author’s social and personal life, including steroid use and an intention to solicit prostitutes in the days before the attack.
Witnesses at the island youth retreat described the way Breivik lured them close by saying he was a police officer before raising his weapons. People hid and fled into the water to escape the rampage; some played dead.
While some on the island reported that there was a second assailant and police said they were looking into that, Lippestad, the lawyer, said his client claims to have acted alone.
Police took 90 minutes from the first shot to reach the island – delayed because they did not have quick access to a helicopter and struggled to find a boat once they reached the lake. Breivik surrendered when they reached him, but before 85 people died. Another seven were killed in the bombing.
Divers continued to comb the lake waters around Utoya Island where some 600 young people were attending a Labor Party summer retreat when it came under attack, amid fears people may have drowned while trying to swim to safety.
Police said the bomb used in the Oslo blast was a mixture of fertilizer and fuel used to blow up a federal building in the U.S. in 1995. A farm supply store said Saturday they had alerted police that Breivik bought six metric tons of fertilizer, which can be used in homemade bombs.
The twin attacks have rattled largely peaceful Norway, home to the Nobel Prize for Peace and where the average policeman patrolling in the streets doesn’t carry a firearm.
Norwegians pride themselves on the openness of their society and cherish the idea of free expression. In recent years, the prosperous Nordic nation has opened its arms to thousands of conflict refugees from Pakistan, Iraq and Somalia.
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GRAMPA-D-NH
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:30amFirst I want to say this man succombed to EVIL and his killing – slaughtering of unarmed innocence was simply cowardly. If he was a true patriot with a shred of honor, he would have used his voice and passion to rally more to his cause.
The impact of what this EVIL person believed, will be enormous IMHO. I fear the left just got the event they needed to unload on “right wing Teabaggers”, NRA members, anti-mosque building types, etc. in this country. Wouldn‘t be surprised if it is woven in if not surpasses the debt limit topic on today’s talk shows ie Meet the dePressed… “Never let a good crisis go to waste”. Something tells me a few more government minders and IP address tracers have been assigned to THEBLAZE this weekend.
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:22am@‘Something tells me a few more government minders and IP address tracers have been assigned to THEBLAZE this weekend’
Report Post »**************
I doubt it, but it would not be unjustified, considering the current high danger levels from right wing extremists in the US. That these threats are rising has been identified by the FBI in several reports. The level of hatred directed at minorities, gays, the President of the United States, people of oither religions, etc. on this site is astounding. No one wants to see more Hutaree type groups spawning, let alone another Oklahoma city.
hauschild
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:28amYeah, like there’s no threat from any factions in this country non-right-wing.
Give us a break, Bubba!
Report Post »HeavyMetalRooster
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:14pm@Baikonur So, you think government spying on it’s citizens is justified? Say no more. Just go back to licking your master’s boots.
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:36pm@hauschild
Report Post »Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:28am
‘Yeah, like there’s no threat from any factions in this country non-right-wing.’
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No question there are other factions. And prior to the second half of the 90′s left-wing groups (extreme environmentalist and anarchist groups, especially) were considered a major threat. These have declined significantly. However, the homegrown right wing extremists are the biggest threat today, according to the FBI.
hauschild
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 1:54pm@Baikonur
Okay, let‘s say you’re right in this case. Then, where is the “terror” from the right in this country??? If you’re having trouble coming up with answers, it’s probably because the answer is that there are no examples of this whatsoever.
We can all find extreme rhetoric from some on the right, but that’s always as far as it goes.
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 2:13pm@hauschild
Report Post »Posted on July 24, 2011 at 1:54pm
‘Okay, let‘s say you’re right in this case. Then, where is the “terror” from the right in this country??? If you’re having trouble coming up with answers, it’s probably because the answer is that there are no examples of this whatsoever’
**************
Well, here is one example from last year: http://www.realcourage.org/2010/03/hutaree-arrests/
Normally these groups are investigated, infiltrated, and brought down due to vigilance from the FBI and groups like SPLC.
jzs
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 9:50pmI’m not sure the government will monitor this website any more than it does already, given that the threat of right wing “lone wolves” like Timothy McVeigh, Byron William who planned mass murder at the Tides foundation, an organization demonized by the right. Of course there was the Holocaust Museum murderer, the Neo Nazis, the opposition to “foreigners” of all kinds, the Ku Klux Klan, abortion clinic bombers and the abortion doctor murderers. And of course there’s this Norwegian guy, who is the tip of the iceberg. With the rise of right wing extremism, these groups present a threat to innocent citizens of this country at least as great as extremists from other countries if not more. There were four mass murders in the country just last weekend.
People who post here should be reassured by the fact that the government already knows who you are and where you live. That’s easy enough for even a miscreant hacker to find out. If the government was going to put you in a FEMA camp, they probably already would have. Unless they’re just waiting to lure you into a false sense of security and then move on all of you at once.
Report Post »jessieH
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:28amI think it’s all a sick way to get sympathy for muslims & islam. Make them look vulnerable and it’s easier to push their agenda. I know it sounds a little crazy, but, from what I’ve seen, coming from muslims, I wouldn’t turn a blind eye to it.
Report Post »The1stRichard
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:18amImportant update;
Report Post »There is false information going around confusing Fjordman, an anonymous Norwegian blogger with Anders Behring Breivik and an alleged manifesto
“”””UPDATE001] There is a vicious rumour going around that Fjordman is the Oslo shooter named Anders Breivik. Sites like LGF are gleefully running with this.
IT IS NOT TRUE read more here
http://kleinverzet.blogspot.com/
GroundZero is Nuclear Demolition x3
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:22amSupport our troops dude, this guy was former military, they can do no wrong.
This is a shining example of what we can expect from people who join the military and even para-military.
Jack2011
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:51amDitto
Report Post »Jack2011
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:55amGroundZero is Nuclear Demolition x3
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:22am
Support our troops dude, this guy was former military, they can do no wrong.
This is a shining example of what we can expect from people who join the military and even para-military.
Report Post »_______
I am pretty sure it is MANDATORY for EVERY able bodied MAN (Including YOU if you lived there) to join the military for a short time.
nomodimcrats
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:18pmJessiah,
ditto, ditto and double ditto ;)
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:20pmdon’t you see now the Drones came be programed for
Blazers and Patriots
They are going to demonize the freedom movement and Ron Paul followers
Report Post »Lonescrapper
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:43pmSound very like the IRA. Now every group feels ‘justified” thanks to the way the press and the government treats them. Not as terrorists, but as ‘insurgents’ or ‘rebels.’ Good job. Welcome to the new enlightened age.
Report Post »chazman
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 1:42pmDam … that looks like an M-14 he’s holding. 30.06 or a .308 … damn.
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 2:03pmThis is was happens when a populace can not defend themselves.CRIMINALS ALWAYS GET GUNS….don’t let this happen here. Such a shame this nutjob shot for over an hour with no resistance!
Report Post »neidermeyer
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 2:51pmWe shouldn’t rush to judgement , we need to look at things through his cultural heritage and belief system ,, we don’t even know if he actually did what he is accused of ,, there has been no trial.. Can we start some kind of outreach program ,, PLEASE..
Report Post »turkey13
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 3:20pmJust think – if he does the full 21 years time he will be 53 years old when he gets out and can do it over again. Now that’s a scary thought. With their lax laws he will probably get out in 10 years.
Report Post »chazman
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 4:06pmIf this weirdo hated ******* so much why didn’t he just kill *******? Why did he think he had to kill kids? Because they were children of leftist parents? I guess there will be more to come on this … stay tuned, folks!
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 5:34pmJessieh:
It doesn’t sound a a little crazy at all.
It sounds a lot crazy.
Report Post »bmwrider
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 6:08pmAnders sounds like he could write for The Blaze.
Report Post »VoteBushIn12
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 7:13pm… Obvious troll is obvious? God I hope you are a troll or the brain power of this site is at an all time low.
Report Post »avenger
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:25pmYou are missing the shooters point.I watched the manifesto video and see where he is coming from.He sees Europe being sold out by the Uber Elites and cooperating with Muslims to destroy national sovereignty.This is not about scaring Muslims,this about waking up Europe and starting a revolution .History buffs know how the communists took over Russia between 1914 /1917 with less than 100 radicals and slaughtered over 100,000,000 innocent people over the next 70 years.Islam update http://thereligionofpeace.com
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jhaydeng
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:49pmIt may stink that you see something in your country that you feel is wrong, but it should never ever start with such an act of violence. State your case, present and prove facts, then hope people join in correcting the issue without lunatic fringe!
Report Post »The Big Pickle
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:54pmDude makes a lot of great points in his manifesto.
Report Post »jnealer
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:22pmYou are an insane person. Seriously. I am concerned for your family and coworkers.
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:11pmWhy did he set up a facebook account only 7 days before the attack? And why, if he’s some sort of fanatical neo-nazi, would he leave traces of himself all over the internet with his FULL name? That just doesn’t add up. Its like this info is way too public to be believable.
How did he gain his expertise in bomb-making, if he did indeed act alone? Why would his lawyer tell everyone he acted alone?
Why did “Assistants of the Global Jihad” report on a closed, restricted jihadi forum in arabic about the successful attack? This wasn’t public bragging for the same of stealing thunder, this was a private announcement to fellow jihadis.
Wouldn’t this be the perfect cover for an islamic terrorist attack? Plant a white man with a fake bio as the attacker, so you do maximum damage while destroying the ability of opponents of Islamization to speak out against Islam.
This whole thing stinks to high heaven. This is the MO of Jihadis. Why does it seem like his background and bio are forged?
Report Post »Texchick
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 1:48amYou watch-this attack will allow them (liberals, the media, those who hate organized religion especially Christianity) to paint anyone who agrees with his views as a right wing religious nut, an extremist, a homegrown terrorist. Obviously NO ONE sane thinks his murders were acceptable. In his mind the killing of the youths at the multi-culti labour party camp was his way of ending their brain trust. He wanted to stop the spread of Islam so he thought he’d kill the future progressive liberal leadership of Norway. They were the children of the politicians who pushed the destructive policies that he thought was destroying is country. Those youths were being indoctrinated to further the multi-cultural agenda. Watch his manifesto. His murders were wrong, abhorrent and horrible. His message-to end the spread of Islam and the evils of multi-culturalism is valid. Watch the video. It should be a wake up call. REJECT his methods, SPREAD his message.
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:37amHow do we know that this particular “Anders Behring Breivik” is the very same one who commented on these forums and news articles?
When I put in a search for my name, multitudes of people with the exact same first, middle, and last name show up.
A name alone is not proof of identity. There are multiple people with the same name.
Plus, there are witness accounts that he did not act alone.
Report Post »dr_funk
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 3:45amPeople who are just plain insane and think the whole world is out to get them carry out acts of random violence. They have no goal, only death and destruction. I would characterize these attacks, at least partially, as such. The bombing of the prime minister’s offices was specifically targeted. But the shooting was random. Then again, it wasn’t just a shooting. There were also unexploded bombs found on the island.
In cases where the attacker is motivated by overwhelming hate and bigotry, the targets of their violent attacks are also the very same targets of their hatred. Violent white supremacists bomb black churches. Violent anti-semites bomb synagogues.
What strikes me is that, if this guy really is such a “violent right wing extremist bigot”, then why do his comments seem so level-headed, and why did he not attack a mosque or a muslim cultural center?
And how did this guy become an expert bomb-maker? You don’t just learn how to build devastatingly powerful bombs, AND build them correctly, as a novice; a beginner. His bomb tore the face off the prime minister’s offices. And it was obviously remote-detonated. How did he detonate it? Probably with a cellphone. Everything about these attacks says “jihadi M.O.” So why do I feel like I’m being fed a pile of s*** with this whole “right-wing extremist” story?
Report Post »a2z
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 11:44amSmartest post I’ve read today. Hit the nail on the head.
Report Post »Santa Cruz Kid
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:22amThis lunatic hates muslims, multiculturistis, elites etc. And he decides to take it out on innocent children?!!! Like much of what is happening around this world…makes no sense.
Report Post »aesaac
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:28amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAwp2FnRmsE&has_verified=1&skipcontrinter=1
Manifesto Video
Report Post »quicker
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:54amHe kinda looks like Hitlers idea of the so called master race.And looks like a very sick person.
Report Post »Hobbs57
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:37amWOW Thanks for the link.. I highly suggest you watch his video if you wish to understand where it is this suspect is coming from. That video tells a lot. I Would watch it before it is gone !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAwp2FnRmsE&has_verified=1&skipcontrinter=1
Report Post »Jack2011
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:53amTry Watching THESE two videos.
Muslim Exploding Population Growth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-NFiPPPEOA
An Alarming video every Westerner should see
Report Post »http://www.tangle.com/view_video?viewkey=0861ff3eabea1ceb73e4
AZfreeman
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:59amSanta C K “This lunatic hates muslims, multiculturistis, elites etc. And he decides to take it out on innocent children?!!!…”
Of course all children are innocent, but if you analyze this act from ‘the mind of a lunatic’ it sort of makes sense in an insane way.
From the article:
“…a car bomb at government headquarters in Oslo and then, hours later, opening fire on young people at an island [POLITICAL RETREAT] . Both targets were linked to Norway’s [LEFT-LEANING LABOR PARTY] , and authorities have said Breivik held anti-Muslim views..” This political retreat was for the children of the leftist’s labor party.
This was an act of revenge to hurt the left-leaning elitists by attacking their children and their office building. This was not an act of random violence, but a calculated terrorist attack by a deranged individual. It is horrific and inexcusable. There is a special place in hell for this man. …rf
Report Post »Mateytwo Barreett
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:10pmTry looking up the word Berserker! Hence the english word – beserk glad to clear thatr up for ya!
Report Post »Talmid of Yeshua
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:28pmThey weren’t little innocent children. IF you would have read the story, these were late teens and young adults who were at a leftist socialism camp of one of the major socialist parties of Norway.
War has been brewing for quite some time in Europe. The liberal governments are letting millions of Muslims pour in, and Europeans are paying a huge price for it. Eventually, the Europeans have to fight back or their won’t be any of Europe left.
Now answer one question for me: Name just one… please, just one… Muslim-majority country in the world that welcomes non-Muslims with open arms, where non-Muslims aren’t slaughtered on a daily basis. Come one… name one country. Oh, wait you can‘t name one because one doesn’t exist. Islam is the tool of Satan and they get the upper-hand in any country it’s lights out for the non-Muslims. If I’m wrong… why don’t you pack your bags and move to Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Indonesia, or some other Muslim-dominated country and share your multi-culturalism with them. I’m glad they be happy to oblige you.
Report Post »southernloyalty
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 1:23pmTrue, but do you know who those children were? They were the children of those who are strong supporters of the socialist government which opens the door to multiculturalism and the islamization of Norway. I’m not condoning what he did, but really if your a nut and are going to do what he did, what better way to do it than to hit the children of those he believes are responsible for the problem. Almost like cutting the head off the snake, but not fully.
Report Post »dscon
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 2:06pmfrom watching his video i think he was killing marxists (in his mind) current and future (adult and children) marxists,
those people he believes are allowing the muslim infiltration of europe.
just a guess on my part.
Report Post »(I paused the vid in full screen mode, when needed, and took the time to read the small print too!)
BehindBlueEyes
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 3:15pm@Talmid of Yeshua
Report Post »You are precisely right. Muslims are the rats of the world.
Islesfordian
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 4:08pm“I’m not condoning what he did, but really if your a nut and are going to do what he did”
You know what they say about everything that comes before “but”, don’t you Southernloyalty?
Report Post »Islesfordian
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 4:10pm“They weren’t little innocent children.”
Are you sure you wanted to lead with that sentence Talmid?
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 4:34pmTALMID, imo your comments are among the most vile, and believe me, there are alot to choose from. The kids killed were 13-25
Report Post »PrfctlyFrank
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 4:53pmThe spin on this is going to be impossible to navigate.. The video this guy uploaded is powerful stuff, and I guarantee you He wasn’t all the way under the radar.. There is a point being made and the opportunity to bury it under the actions of a lunatic are temptation irresistable to those who are practicing the deceptions Anders was/is talking about..
We are being assimilated by a culture that believes that freedom is evil.. Now where do we start our compromise??
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 5:24pmHe’s a21st c anti-semite[against muslims this time].Just like you anti muslim tea partyers,Beck devotes and fox manipulated gulls on the right all are[except for Ron Paul who sees through the manipulation].This terrorist lashed out at children of his socialist progressive government because he’s a genocidial right wing nationalist like you are.Killing muslims would have been met with approval from the right and his government would not have been shaken up .He wants to punish his government for not being genocidal anti semites[against muslims this time]He knows many people are against muslims so he hoped killing pro muslim [pro palestinian government people-worse;their children] he could shake things up enough for the populace to be forced to take sides.he wants to ignite a you’re either against muslims or against the people[nationalists]if not you’re against us[the populace].he wants to start a war against islam and this was a way to force the issue.Just like you guys on the blaze talk about all the tine;genocidal hatred of muslims plus hatred of your government and rabid nationalis [take back our country].He IS you ideologically.In the meantime those muslims go about their lives here and there in silence knowing you genocidists lay a hand on one and you’ll be hit with a hate crime!Long live the arab spring and the social democracies of europe a coming to the USA!Long live the norweiian social democracy and their acceptance of muslims & pro palestinian & 67 border is
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 5:40pmTalmud of Yeshua:
Ok, they weren’t innocent little children.
They were innocent teen-agers and young adults who had a perfect right to be where they were, doing what they were doing.
If Europeans want to “fight back” and keep Muslims out, there are better ways, wouldn’t you say?
Unless of course they want to descend to the level of Breivik–and, of course, of an assortment of Muslim terrorists against Israel, Europe and America.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 5:46pmRose-Ellen:
Yes, Breivik is “anti-Semitic” in the sense of being against Arabs, who are (linguistically, at least) Semites.
Aren’t you dying to know if he is also anti-Semitic in the good old-fashioned sense of the word?
Did he perhaps think he was defending Israel?
He identified himself as a “Christian,” so was he perhaps of the new sort of evangelical Christian for whom Israel is a fulfillment of prophecy?
Or was he of that older breed of European right-wing radicals for whom Jew-hating was practically a membership qualification?
Interesting either way, but what would you guess?
Report Post »avenger
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 8:27pmnot so fast, check out the facts about this camp and its function…
Report Post »Ephelia
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:29pmWho runs a political summer camp for children? In my day we sang songs and roadsted marshmallows. This sounds like an indoctrination camp for the children of socialists. People who are serious about brainwashing their children. I don’t know about you, but my children are told that they have to look inside and make up their own mind. They are not sent to Conservative Ideology Summer Camp. Typical socialists nothing is more important to them than ideology not even their children.
Report Post »CrimsonTom
Posted on July 27, 2011 at 2:26pm“Now answer one question for me: Name just one… please, just one… Muslim-majority country in the world that welcomes non-Muslims with open arms, where non-Muslims aren’t slaughtered on a daily basis.”
Answer: Turkey. What do I win?
Report Post »djhrr
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:21amWow. Shame on these comments. This is very sad. Oklahoma city and Columbine together sad. I got an idea, Why doesn’t the Right and Left stop trying to blame the other for this and pray for these people, together.
Report Post »norgeman
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:30amWhen has the main stream media ever labeled a killer a leftest?
Report Post »GroundZero is Nuclear Demolition x3
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:53amOklahoma city was very effective, you haven’t heard of another Wako or Ruby Ridge since have U?
Tim McV, was a great patriot and hero, thank you for holding the fed gov accountable in some respect.
Columbine, VTech, and AZ were the result of the American Medical Asso, pushing psychotic drugs on our youth w/o any accountability.
Report Post »Mateytwo Barreett
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:14pm@ Norgeman
Report Post »Liberals are lousy shots??
mr.goodvibe
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 5:07pmYou are an ostrich! Think about it.
Report Post »norgeman
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:19amThe Lib’s always say we must “try to understand why they hate us, then compromise” when Muslims kill…. Are they going to try and understand and compromise with this nut job?
Report Post »anchoorite
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:23amno way! we do not cave to terrorist’s demands!
Report Post »thecrow
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:27amhttp://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2009/05/24/thepassion/
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:31amNope. Only Muslims get that privilege. Isn‘t it just so civilized of O’bama to want all of the terrorists to to be tried over here in the states so they can let them all go on technicalities. Colleges and schools are run by the left communists/socials/islam. Wemust all just grin and bear it. like good little fools. They are taking the world by storm from within the government and the schools. I suppose that if they can convince the children that this is what it it will take to make the world happy, and to come into the one world government and religion, the religion of Islam that they won’t know any better, at least until judgment day.
Report Post »AB5r
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:37amActually it will be very helpful if his writings do get serious attention in the mainstream media. While his terrorist acts were absolutely inexcusable and horrific his writings on the topic of Islam and the need to save Norway (and the West) from Islam are deeply in need of being discussed across our entire civilization. So while Islam has spread more and more and more and more SINCE 9/11, with the insane West bending over backwards to not offend Islam, to make concessions to Islam, to deny what Islam really is, to try really super duper extra hard to UNDERSTAND why WE DID WRONG to DESERVE 9/11, etc., since after all, the innocent peaceful Muslims (and so-called Palestinians) ONLY engage in terror acts because they have no other way to get their point across, because the evil vile West has stomped on them and made them feel disrespected, blah blah blah, perhaps a similar treatment of this terrorist’s views will at least get them out and discussed. All of the letters to the editor, all of the books, all of the blogs, haven’t really had much effect to this point in getting the West to acknowledge the existential threat from Islam.
Report Post »GroundZero is Nuclear Demolition x3
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:50pm@ab5r The towers were taken down by the NYC port authority, it was a renovation project put on by Larry Siverstein and Israel. Not an attack on our country for some excuse 5th graders fall for. What reliable evidence do you have of 19 hijackers? Video tapes from an airport that wasn’t Logan? Radio transmissions that any rational court won’t admit as evidence(and for good reason). The socalled “evidence” the CIA presents is based on “walk in” testimony, how credible do you consider that??
You really need to find the FACTS, and not MSM propaganda.
AB5r
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 1:07pm@GroundZero is Nuclear Demolition x3
Your mother?
Report Post »llotus
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 1:46pmGroundzero…..did I understand you to comment that timothy m. was a patriot and hero? Is that how you see it? He WAS a mass muderer! His mass murdering days are over now. If you are serious, you are a dangerous person also. Lotus.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 5:47pmI know exactly why he hates muslims;because he believes that the west has the right to colonize or prop up proxy regimes in arab lands for our interests and how dare those natives think they should have a say in their homelands if our interests are there too.he hates them because they resisted western domination via alqquada.The ones who emigrate to his country have no shame,apology or explanation for the political resistence of alqquada.Why should they? And their religion is there right and their business and they know it. They are not cowed human beings and he hates them for that as well as his socialist government for standing up to this dehumanization and demonizing of a billion people because of their religion[we've been there and done that in the 20thc] . They[his government] are holding down the fort from the 21st c anti semites [anti-muslim this time]and this right wing genociidists[your guy, Blaze and Beck fans] wanted to force the issue[either you cow tow to anti muslim genocidal agenda [anti-muslim this time] or we’ll fight you too
Report Post ».And the media so reluctant to cover it, to be horrified by it as they would if it had been a muslim act[they were chomping at the bit when the news broke], just shows how it was never about abhorance of violence ,this “ war on ”terror” but about indignation that our domination of THEM was having an impact on US[power].Long live the pro palestinian social democracies of norway and europe and the arab spring!
Pelling1020
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 7:19pmRosy-Palm or Ellen,
I’m confused. Did you vote for BHO? I just can’t get a grip on who you are for and who you are against. Go have a hand full of M&M’s and give us your best shot.
Report Post »LeftyLieDetector
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 7:50am“I know exactly why he hates muslims;because he believes that the west has the right to colonize or prop up proxy regimes in arab lands for our interests and how dare those natives think they should have a say in their homelands if our interests are there too.he hates them because they resisted western domination via alqquada”
Hey Rosey-Fascist…. Exactly what “regimes” are we propping up in Arab lands for our interests? You saying those regimes, institutions and ways of life were not there before we started to do business with them?? Do you know any history besides what you read on CommieFan.com or FanOfNazism.com?? Are you saying Al-Qaida is fighting for freedom? You do know what freedom is?? Go back to bed, you f’ing, fascist imbecile.
Report Post »wonderbug
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:13amThe whole thing from every angle is just sad, sad, sad.
Report Post »anchoorite
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:22amNot only sad … but evil, vile and disgusting. The killer‘s ideology is no different from AlQaeda’s. He even acknowledges it, saying that terrorism is the way to attract attention. These killers must be handled the same way AlQaeda is.
Report Post »UlyssesP
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 1:59pmIt’s that same old horizontal thinking. Be vertical.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 6:03pmAnchorite:
Breivik’s act resembles those of Al-Qaida in its immediate intent, which is to dismay, disrupt and force wrenching change on a society, but in this case, his own, not a foreign one.
So far as we can tell yet, he belongs to no group,
He could as easily have been an left-wing terrorist of some sort, striking at the government on behalf of the “working class,” like the anarchists of a century ago, or a radical libertarian and gun freak, which is what McVeigh basically was, or a religious nut trying to bring on Armageddon.
Instead, he was apparently a cultural/racial/religious nationalist, trying to shock his country back into the essence of its Norwegianness, or whatever.
But I’m inclined to think that whatever cobbled-up ideology he may have advanced, in the end this was not supposed to be about his cause, but about him.
He could easily have committed suicide, or forced the police to shoot him, but he chose to surrender, which probably means he has lots more to say and means to say it as loudly and publicly as he can.
That way he remains the center of attention for a good long time, which is probably what he wants above all.
Report Post »TheShocker
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:13amAs regrettable as inevitable. Yet very surprising happening in Norway, not exactly a country known for radicals of any persuasion. If Norwegians are becoming radicalized the world must be entering a dark bloody period indeed. The “end-timers” might be on to something, better re-read Revelations.
Report Post »Mateytwo Barreett
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:12pmCheck out what has been going on in Norway for the past 5 years! Clear it right up!!
Report Post »jimmythebullet
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 2:35pmshocker-
Report Post »i recommend reading Ezekiel,Daniel and Zechariah(in that order)first.those three will make one look twice at what’s going on in the mid-east and,possibly,help one with the coding and heavy sybolism in Revelation.
Lloyd Drako
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 6:08pmA dark and bloody period indeed, and it’s the end-timers who are largely to blame, be they Muslim, Christian or Jewish.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:06amBeing anti Muslim is like being anti Hitler during WWII everyone should have been, sadly like then the left thinks they can use them to gain power through votes. Liberals never fail to amaze me at the number of innocent people they will allowed to be enslaved, murdered, or worse if they think it might increase their power/influence.
Report Post »AB5r
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:02amActually, because he did write out in great detail a very good explanation of the very real problem confronting the West with regard to Islam, his commentary can hardly be characterized as a rant. And, since he did chose to attack the political left rather than Muslims, he is forcing the left to choose sides. If he had just attacked Muslims, in the same way Muslims attack others, then the left would have been able to remain aloof and above it all, in their delusional way, believing that those crazy right wings and those crazy so-called radical Muslims are just fighting among themselves. But in reality, the political left need to fact the reality that it is they and their society that are at risk, first from Islam, but ultimately also from the so-called extremist right who will fight rather than just accept the extinquishment of their countries and civilization. His choice of target may have been very carefully thought out with this sort of rationale, to force the left to choose sides, are they with Islam or are they with their own civilization. To this point the left has steadfastly refused to even acknowledge that there is a fight, or even any issue at all with importing millions upon millions of followers of a religion who SOLE PURPOSE is the destruction of man-made governments and laws and the replacement of them with sharia.
Report Post »techengineer11
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:57amThat’s a very well reasoned post. I’ll just be candid in the best way I know how. Islam is evil. It’s backwards and its followers are some of the most ignorant gullible people on earth. That being said how can we expect them not to resist as much as possible against US hegemony in the region? We have literally had either boots on the ground or our very own puppets installed in the Middle East since the closing days of WW1! Not only that we have supported if not created and armed the Nation of Israel to the point where they are simply far superior to all of their neighbors in the ME with the exception of maybe Turkey.
I think for starters we should withdraw all troops from the area, cut off all foreign aid to all, and reform our immigration policies. We are basically at the point of setting aside our freaking Constitution in the name of “War on Terror!” It makes me sick to my stomach to know that our forefathers fought, bled and suffered so much to procure the freedoms and liberties that we have enjoyed the past several hundred years in this nation only to see them go up in smoke in the name of a facetious “War on Terror.”
I could go on and on because I believe we are being played by elite but step one is to get the hell out of the Middle East period! I do not believe Americans would be to happy if the Turks or Iranians began setting up bases in Mexico, Canada, or some part of the US so why do we expect them to feel any differently?
Report Post »GroundZero is Nuclear Demolition x3
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:26pmI agree, he put alot of though into this. Hell, he wrote 1500pgs about it.
Tech, good point on Turkey and Israel. Most of the public are oblivious to what goes on there:
Report Post »http://nswbc.org/Op%20Ed/Part2-FNL-Nov29-06.htm
brado9505
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 2:15pmtoo bad what he did but he’s right about whats coming.
Report Post »acav76
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 2:17pmIt is time to make some decisions. But mayhem is not the answer. One commenter mentions US hegemony in the ME. Try looking at the Ottoman Empire and the British control of the area. Note that the US did not play a major part in this area until after WWII. However, the US did push the creation and acceptance of the State of Israel. For this reason (among many others), we cannot abandon Israel in the face of all that is aligning against her. That is not the America I grew up to love. (But then, I attended schools when real History was taught) We don’t want a conflict, but we don’t run from one either. We must be willing to do what is right and stand with those who oppose evil. And if you think Israel is evil, you are on the wrong side of history.
Europe has to decide for itself – and now the issue is gaining attention in Norway. While we may want to give advice, we would not accept advice from Europe on how to deal with an open border with illegals, drug runners and terrorists pushing through at an alarming rate.
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 6:22pmACav76:
The US government really did little more than accept the creation of Israel in 1947-1948. In fact, had Truman not been president, it’s not at all certain that the USSR would not have recognized Israel first. A lot of people in the State Department reminded Truman that the Arabs were more numerous than the Jews, and had a lot of oil, and advised him not to do it. FDR might have listened to them, but not the man from Independence.
In 1956 Eisenhower took a firm stand against Israel (as well as Britain and France) over Suez. American support for Israel, both at the popular level and at the level of government policy, really dates from the later 1960s. The 1967 war was one reason for this, as was greater awareness of the Holocaust, first among American Jews themselves and then in the general population. Indeed, the very term “Holocaust” only acquired general currency then.
My point here is that US support for Israel arose more recently and may be less instinctive and deeply-rooted than we would like to think. At some point we need to remind ourselves that it’s not our country.
Report Post »Pyx
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:56amAnders Behring Breivik of Norway PLAGIARISING from his ideological hero, Ted Kaczynski, The Unibomber’s manifesto.
Report Post »GulfPeg
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:55amM o o s e l i m s aren’t welcome here either!
Report Post »Sylvester
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:10amAnother Savage listener. Borders, Language, Culture!
Report Post »jimmythebullet
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 2:55pmSavage is right and has been for quite some time.without borders,language and culture,how else can we call ourselves a country?
Report Post »Mil-Dot
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:52amThis is just an indicator of the tip of the iceberg regarding reaction to muslim infiltration abroad. Any sane person does not want them around yet our politicians are pumping them in like water. Why?
Report Post »GroundZero is Nuclear Demolition x3
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:04amThe purpose is to cause more chaos, so people willingly give up their independents to the gov.
Report Post »The same principal applied when the port authority took down the twin towers.
Search for “shaking tower”, to observe the p-waves (which can not be heard by humans) and classic demolition timing.
Find the overhead thermal images taken on the 16th, massive amounts of energy the fed gov want U to believe came from no where (like the fictional $6million man’s power supply).
And the clincher THE DUST, 5million cubic feet of chemically rearranged bedrock granite, can’t be denied. Of course it will be denied by the MSM, but it’s what we have come to expect from them.
GulfPeg
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:25amAny sane person does not want them around yet our politicians are pumping them in like water. Why?
VOTES! As simple as that!
Report Post »TelepromoterNChief
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:47amIt DOES NOT MATTER who this guy killed or who he represented.
It was WRONG.
Plain and simple.
There are many things in life that I do not like, agree with or even enjoy, but this course of action is UNACCEPTABLE.
The individual AND the knowing people who supported him in this act SHOULD BE PUNISHED to the fullest extent of the law.
Report Post »mossbrain
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:19amI think the maximum penalty is 21 years. I may be wrong but if that is the maximum then Denmark deserves him getting out in a few decades for it’s lenient laws.
Report Post »Vital
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:13amI have a question….have the Egyptians government arrested the Islamic Muslims that burned down a Christian church and killed over a hundred people and children inside a couple of months ago??
Report Post »AND the killing of Christians still continues over in the Middle East.
Mateytwo Barreett
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:06pm@ Mossy
Report Post »Denark? Morwegia!
thinkhard64
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:47amWhat sick Idiot! yeah shooting kids that will change things,because ya know they make the laws? SICK
Report Post »mossbrain
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:34amI think it will make a difference, more and more people will speak up and say it was a horrible act but YES we also are sick and tired of these Muslims, kick them out NOW because if something isn’t done soon more and more fed up normal humans will take the law into their own hands. Muslims kill little children every week, week after week, the killing by the Muslims will never stop, it is part of the evil consciousness that is imprinted into their minds by the Islamic brainwashing.
Report Post »clingingtogodandguns
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:36amThis guy is a monster and he should be put to death.It sounds like he was sick and tired of his country being taken over by the Muslims.multiculturalism doesn‘t work because the people don’t assimilate to your country they want to turn your country into their view.
Report Post »OhSuzieQ
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:46amYeah, just like the USA.
Report Post »TelepromoterNChief
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:52amSUZIEQ
Just LEAVE if you don’t like it.
You will not be missed.
Report Post »GiGi80
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:25amOooops. I take back what I posted previously. This is actually an uncredited AP story, not an original as implied by the absence of citation.
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:07amit says this at the beginning of the article
OSLO, Norway (AP)
hmmmmmm city, country, and source
man your a m.oron …………………and a crappy tr.oll
Report Post »BigConserv
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:22amLooks like the left and all it‘s news agency friends will have a field day showing how things could get if we allow the Tea Party continue it’s “ how they call Extreme Right” ways
Report Post »The question that needs to be ask and solved is
Why these attacks on a country know for peace?
And who really filled this monster with these horrible thought?
Also watch the OTHER HAND
Guest
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:56amyes the killing by him or his group’s members is horrible and should have been stopped a whole lot faster than it was, but to refuse help from int’l groups, odd, and it sounds like he’s one of many who are sick and tired of allowing their govt to import the islamic death cult (thought a terrorist group claimed this attack), perhaps a new wave of terror is beginning where people fight back against islam and those who allow it to destroy life as they know it.
Report Post »Phantom II
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:32amHow many children were killed at Dresden, Berlin, etc.? Why did we kill them? How do you stop these people who are bent on destroying our way of life? How can you stop them if no one will help you? If the Republicans cave in these budget talks, what are we to do? The Tea Party will become an actual political party, who in turn may encourage certain states to succeed and divide the union in order to preserve our way of life. Will there be blood shed?
Report Post »We already have a a would be Lincoln in the White House who will keep the union together at all cost. We are dealing will global evil who wish to cause us harm.
The police are in training to curtail rebellion. Who will they go after? Tea Party folks, that’s who. What will you do when the Gestapo come for your guns so that they can carry out what Anders opposes? There are many people that feel the way Anders does. Heed the warning. This is just the beginning. We will not learn from history. Let’s hope that the Viking soul is stirred in Norwegian souls.
tifosa
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 4:04pmWho did he read/ascribe to? Among others he names American hateratti Pam Geller and Geert Wilders.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 4:07pmaka, he’s one of you.
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 5:56pmBeck,fox tea partyers and the vast anti -muslim genocidal media campaign and anti socialist ,“christian” right found here there and everywhere!That’s where he got his beliefs from.he’s your guy plus “the nerve!”
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 6:38pmPhantomII:
Which states are most likely to succeed if the Tea Party becomes a real party and gains control of them, and why?
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on July 25, 2011 at 10:54am@Phantom II
I think you mean secede. We fought the bloodiest war in US history to answer that question.
Report Post »skippy6
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:20amWhat use is a very dangerous insane person to society if he was to escape from prison??? Execution is the only answer for this nutcase!!! Does Norway have the death penalty???
Report Post »HeavyMetalRooster
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:45amWhy three punctuation marks on every sentence???
Report Post »Deckle
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:19amI have heard and we have seen evidence of it in the US amoung wrestlers that steriods can lead to violent behavior. This is so sad and my prayers go out to all in Norway!
Report Post »GiGi80
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:17amThis is by far the most well-written and journalistic article I have read on the Blaze. More Ms. Morgenstern would help lend some journalistic authority to the Blaze.
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:21amGigi, if it is well written, it probably was copy/pasted word for word from another news source, in this case AP I think.
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:25amHere is the exact same article, word for word on a different site: http://lancasteronline.com/article/ap/426627_Lawyer–Norway-suspect-wanted-anti-Muslim-crusade.html
The Blaze product is just a word for word copy of the AP piece.
Report Post »GiGi80
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:36amI know — I can’t believe I bought it (would like to blame it on fighting a bad case of pneumonia). I did not see the AP citation (because it is not there). Right after I posted, I reread the article and then did a Google search.
Report Post »El Federale
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:43amWow, I wonder if that is why the article starts with (AP) at the beginning? That means an AP article, pay attention before you criticize , those two little words make a world of difference.
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:47am@GiGi80
Report Post »Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:36am
‘I know — I can’t believe I bought it’
**************
I wish the Blaze had good writers! But I have never seen a single article here, except the pieces entirely copy/pasted from other sources, that didn’t contain several spelling errors. The conservative point of view deserves better. Unfortunately, even the National Review has gone downhill tremendously, probably due to a mass exodus of their best moderate Republican contributors.
I hope you feel better real soon!
Steve
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:47amWell the first words in the article on Blaze do say AP. WTF?
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:10amgigi80 and butboner
obviously are not educated enough to know the two letters AP at the beginning of this article means ASSOCIATED PRESS
and these lefty troll plants always claim intelligence………………………rofl
Report Post »GiGi80
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:18am@ El Federale
I know — I am embarrassed that I missed the citation. I do try to operate on evidence, not speculation and I am chagrined.
Report Post »GiGi80
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:28am@BAIKONUR
Thanks!
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:33amGigi and El Federale,
I posted how several other news sites around the world credited this article, but my post is still awaiting moderation. Suffice it to say, that every single other source apart from the Blaze credits the actual AP authors, rather than putting someone else’s name on the byline. The Jakarta Post, the Miami Herald, Yahoo News, everyone credits the AP writers (the byline usually is ‘By BJOERN AMLAND and SARAH DiLORENZO Associated Press
OSLO, Norway July 24, 2011 (AP)’
By contrast, The Blaze byline for this article says : by Madeleine Morgenstern. LOL!
Report Post »Lloyd Drako
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 6:28pmThe real story on the Blaze is almost never the story itself, but the comments it elicits!
Report Post »Jhn'1
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:15amChange the last sentence to indicate Islamic refugees who refuse to culturally assimilate to the host country and are known for the attacks on Norwegian women.
Report Post »semidisk
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:21amWhat evidence do you have for this?
Report Post »Mil-Dot
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:40amBoy, the muslim lovers are out in force on this one. The guy may be a monster, maybe a hero. He was sick of his country being sold out to the muslims. But, it was not the kids fault. Yet. He did what he thought was right. Now, if a muslim in a muslim country killed a bunch of Jews or Christians, it would be celebrated. So, spare me the poor muslim crap.
Report Post »Baikonur
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:13am@Mil-Dot
Report Post »Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:40am
‘Boy, the muslim lovers are out in force on this one. The guy may be a monster, maybe a hero.’
***********
In what demented universe is this guy ‘maybe a hero?’
GroundZero is Nuclear Demolition x3
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:35pm@Baikonur The same universe that Tim McVeigh prevented the ATF & USFG from continuing to kill innocent people and use the MSM to justify their actions.
Report Post »THIS UNIVERSE
Baikonur
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:59pm@GroundZero is Nuclear Demolition x3
Report Post »Posted on July 24, 2011 at 12:35pm
‘The same universe that Tim McVeigh prevented the ATF & USFG from continuing to kill innocent people and use the MSM to justify their actions. THIS UNIVERSE’
********************
Do you honestly think that Timothy McVeigh is a hero?
tifosa
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 4:20pmAnswer BAIKONUR, in THIS world. The world of GlennBeckers who believe many of the same things Beivik did.
Report Post »semidisk
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 5:03pm&Mil-Dot
I’m not a muslim lover; indeed my feelings towards muslims are completely irrelevant to my post, which was solely concerned with the accuracy and preciseness of the post I replied to. As it is I don‘t think it’s either accurate or precise; according to a 6/2/11 article by the EU Times there were 86 rape reports in Norway from 2005 to 2010, and for 83 of them the confirmed perpetrators were muslim. Even assuming each rape was committed by a different man, that’s hardly 0.07% of the Norwegian Muslim population. I‘m not suggesting that this statistic isn’t significant or worth mentioning, but it’s worthwhile to maintain some perspective through this all; it discredits jhn‘1’s position to blow numbers out of proportion.
Report Post »TelepromoterNChief
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:10amLooks like a costume for the Avengers 2012 movie.
Report Post »The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:51amThe weapon itself is a tricked out Ruger Mini-14 or Mini-30. Going by Norway’s gun laws I am leaning towards this being a PhotoShopped picture. If it is not, then he had access to a good deal of money and/or help to purchase it, the accessories and the conversion to full auto. I would say it is obvious that he was not working alone and may simply be a nutcase being used by a terrorist cell.
Report Post »TelepromoterNChief
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:57amThat is very likely the case.
Report Post »Regardless, he looks like a douchebag.
Mil-Dot
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:05amSo when muslims object to their govt selling them out and importing non-indiginous creatins into there lands they are lauded as freedom fighters. But, when a white guy does the exact same thing, he is a nutcase. Wow. Remember the palestinian psychos that cut that family up including the babies? Remember them? Total double standard BS.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 10:10amHe looks like a Kennedy.
Report Post »The_Almighty_Creestof
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 11:03am@Mil-Dot
He is a nutcase. A loser looking for a cause…like Loughner in Arizona. He could have just as easily been recruited by the Anti-Mickey Mouse organization and brainwashed with flattery, ideology of a Donald Duck only world and he would have fallen for it in a heartbeat…simply out of a need to “belong” and having something important in his life.
In that sense, he is no different than the young suicide bombers used by Islamists. Mis-fits of siciety or SOOOOOOOO easy to manipulate. The kids of today have no great adventures, no great causes, no great hardships …so they sit around bored and welcome any diversion to make them feel special or alive.
I guarantee you…I could step onto any highschool campus in the guise of a janitor and within 30 days I would have a dozen hardcore militants at my beck and call…enthralled with the idea of living out a real life movie plot and fighting back against whatever enemy I steer them towards.
That is why socialism and communism are so prevalent and dangerous in our country right now. The sea of dis-illusioned, bored, athiestic youth wandering around in a daze can be rallied together by an charismatic man/woman/group so easily…setting a match to the powderkeg of our basic ideals and beliefs so beautifully worded in our constitution, Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights.
They are mindless, worker bees…waiting for their orders.
Report Post »HanginOn
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:08amThis was bound to happen sooner or later. Muslims can’t expect to the the ONLY terrorists around. Our planet is a powder keg.
Report Post »semidisk
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:16amIt’s been happening for far longer than you apparently think. Of course many Muslims are terrorists, but they don’t even comprise the majority.
Report Post »norgeman
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:40amSemidisk; The difference is we openly say terrorism is not the answer in large numbers. When Muslims kill, I see them cheering?
Report Post »semidisk
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 4:42pmThat is irrelevant to muslims being the only terrorists; such a statement is plainly untrue. I don’t care about whatever colloquial inferences you can draw from my post.
Report Post »mikellyusabr
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:04amHow’s that for blowback from the other end?
Report Post »rose-ellen
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 6:14pmIt’s easy to say terrorrism is not the answer when you have drones,[and a strong hightly technologically advanced miliary ] you have not been invaded and occupied, no one has forced you out of the home you own to give it to a newly arrived foreigner because they claim God gave them the right to your home,etc.And terrorism is a term used to dehumanize the resistence fighters[ our military has always deliberatly targeted civilians when deemed in our interests-whether to win a battle or win a war].more self serving hubris, self inflated lies and hypocrisy!.[part of the anti muslim campaign to dehumanize the enemy[they are evil unlike all other enemies] standard propaganda to inflame the people against your genocidal targts[it worked on this right wing anti-semite-against muslims this time].But his hatred of them seeped out the “wrong” way from what you anti muslim genocidists and the right wing media would want!
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:01amIf he wants revenge on the Muslims, then WHY is he shooting Norwegians. That doesn’t make any sense at all.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:08amThere was another report that said the PM was just there in support of the Muslims. I guess it’s guilt by association? And it was a labor youth camp. I know that doesn’t justify killing children, but I guess in his mind it did.
Report Post »semidisk
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:09amFrom what I’ve read, I believe the idea is that he holds Norwegians to blame for so complacently accepting them.
Report Post »racooper3
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:22amHeavyduty, You misread the article. The revenge is not on the Muslims. It is on the Marxists/Socialists who have betrayed indigenous Europeans by allowing Muslims culture to overrun European culture. That Camp for teenagers is a training camp for Socialist indoctrination. That wasn’t some paradise camp for kids. I suspect that this will not be the last attack on Socialists and their misdeeds.
Report Post »racooper3
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 9:26amLorriann12, I don’t believe it was the Prime Minister, but rather the Finance Minister that had given a speech to the kids on the island.
Report Post »AB5r
Posted on July 24, 2011 at 3:26pmAnd that raises the question, can Muslims be Norwegians? Or any other Western nationality? To the extent that their religion denies the rights and philosophies that are a core integral part of Western civilization and our countries, Muslims are in the awkward place of being Muslims living in Norway, or Muslims living in Britain, but never really “being” Norwegian. Also, how does race play into this? When people of all different races immigrate to Britain or Norway of Spain, do they someone really “become” British or Norwegian?
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