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Mosque Move ‘Not Confirmed’: Florida Imam Explains Deal With Koran-Burning Pastor
- Posted on September 9, 2010 at 6:30pm by
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shotgun
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 8:38pmIts time the people that expect sensitivity express a little sensitivity themselves. The idea of this mosque is equally offensive (if not more) than burning the kuran.
Report Post »ritetrack
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 8:21pmi have reading stuff all over the net all day about this imam and this GZ mosque… and i have the strangest feeling that “the deal has fell through”… not between this pastor and the imam… but between imam rauf and the developers…. i think this might be over… got a gut feeling about from this and that i have picked up… but, (as obama says) “make no mistake”… there will be “something else…
Report Post »yogi
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 8:15pmThe pastor feels he was lied to in order to succumb to the media’s wishes. Welcome to Islam and the Obama administration.
Report Post »AsianForTeaPartyConservative
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 9:26pmIslamist will play this game with a straight face because they don’t think its lying when dealing with infidel. That Pastor was had. Never ever trust another Arab!
Report Post »rocktruth
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 8:13pmWhat does the bible say?
Report Post »2nd KINGS 23
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLSinNW1jHE
RealityCheck
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 8:08pm1 man with a few followers burning a book or the people who find it disrespectful burning the American flag and threatening the demise of a Nation over 1 man and a few followers burning a book.
Ya, I think 1 might just be more extreme than the other.
Report Post »farmgirl01
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 10:20pmyep I agree!! burning the “likeness” of Pastor Jones and getting all violent was waaaay extreme reaction.
Report Post »Miami
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 7:59pmIt’s wonderful to see a Muslim Imam with commonsense who speaks out against the Ground Zero Mosque.
If more spoke out against the hatred promoted by the radicals, maybe the would not dominate the group think. As they do in so many Mosques around the world. Instead of protesting the planed burning of the Koran with the burning of American Flags and images of this “Pastor”. They soul try a “Group Prayer” or threaten more violence if he had gone through with it.
If the Koran is a “Peaceful Book” where is the Peace?
I disagreed with the burning of the Koran, it‘s wrong to defame anyone’s faith.
Would they do the same…?
Report Post »Pink.Iris
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 7:53pmAdd your comments
Report Post »Danneskjold_Ragnar
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 7:50pmunsafe levels of nuance detected
Report Post »Bronco II
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 7:49pmI just prayed and asked GOD to interviene and let it be his will whatever comes out I’m okay with.I don‘t agree with the Pastor or where they want to build the mosque but I don’t listen to the arguments I leave it up to GOD he is in control and knows what is best for all of us always we may not always be happy with the answers but I’m good with whatever GOD does.
Report Post »StrawberryPop
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 7:44pmWhile building a mosque in that location is wrong, as is burning the holy book of another faith as protest. How would Christians feel if, because (for valid reasons) others did not want a church built in a certain location they decided to publicly go out and burn Bibles? You would not like it at all, I’m sure. In fact, you’d be more than a little pissed off. You have to realize that, even if you don’t agree with it, those people believe in the Koran as Christians do the Bible.
Report Post »JohnZiraldo
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 7:15pmIf the pastor wants to do something about his frustration with Muslims or the Koran, maybe he can copy all of the passages from the Koran that espouse hatred or intolerance to non-Muslims or women, add that to any similar passages from the bible or other religious documents and compose a “Book of Hatred”. He could then ask all faiths to join him in burning that book.
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 7:13pmI feel that the pastor backing down will be seen to the radicals as a sign of weakness…this guy had no “authority” to speak for the iman in New York…this is going to blow up in the pastor’s face…watch and see!
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 10:19pmeveryone lied to the pastor to get him to stop because obama told them to. simple.
Report Post »daverag
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 7:08pmTaqiyya.
Report Post »carrera
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 8:21pmDaverag- Indeed, Taqiyya is a viable option. If you are unfamiliar with taqiyya and it‘s implications you should research it’s meaning. A good place to start would be http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/011-taqiyya.htm I would speculate it is being implemented during these alleged “negotiations”
Report Post »David Foxfire
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 7:06pmIf the Imam making this would called it an Interfaith Outreach Center (Emphasis on Interfaith, which it is when I hear an objective description of the proposed place) instead of an Islamic Outreach Center–did he at any time call it a Mosque? Was it intended to be a Mosque? Forgive me, but I’m not quite certain on that angle–he would have had some better reception to it.
Caution: Emo Moment up ahead. I feel like pimp slapping all of America here. All. Of. Her.
What _really_ irks me, however, is that, while all this drama was going on, several blocks to the south there are TWO GAPING HOLES where TWO SKYSCRAPERS once stood, and people flat out REFUSE to rebuild them. I heard that the Twin Towers were built in little more than a year. It’s been almost NINE [BEEEP] YEARS?! Why in Allah’s name are there nothing Rebuilt there. Can’t we get Donald Trump on the [BEEP] phone and tell him to do something about it. I didn’t care if his name would be on the top, the fact that we haven’t rebuilt the WTC by now offends me to the point of burning [BEEP]. And apparently nobody even gives a [BEEP] about it! Let those two holes fester, but God help is over that Outreach center.
A lot more so than any mosque built in Manhattan.
(Pardon the yelling, I’m that pissed off about it.)
Report Post »tepartyblogdotinfo
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 8:08pmI agree about rebuilding the towers. They are putting up the “Freedom Tower” it is 400 feet taller but just one tower and wont be done until the end of 2013. Its a complete joke. We should be building a trade center because it is our capitalist system that Radicals oppose. I would settle for a 3000 ft obelisk dedicated to the people who died there and perhaps capitalism and the constitution. I wrote about it here http://teapartyblog.info/blog/.
Report Post »whitaker
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 9:10pmThere puting up 4 building being put up with a sortof park I think the holdup was what to put there. My question is why is the church that was distroyed there geting so much hassle from the city just trying to rebuild, while the city is going out of its way to assist the masque?
Report Post »AsianForTeaPartyConservative
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 7:05pmI smell something fishy here. That pastor may have been trick by this Imam. We’ll see what happens later, but if it turns out to be a trick just to stop this pastor then we must build the biggest koran bonfire ever right in front of their mosque. I am waiting to see and hear what the final outcome will be.
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 7:00pmThe pastor was probably threatened with a TAX AUDIT!
Report Post »AsianForTeaPartyConservative
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 7:07pmI feel you may be right.
Report Post »TwoMinuteMan
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 7:11pmOr worse.
Imam Obamas administration surely stepped in.
Report Post »Topcat
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 6:57pmFinely an Iman , that truly speaks of moderation and compassion , and understands the emotion of the New Yorkers over ground zero. This Florida Iman , has in one interview , done more to ease Muslim relations in the US , in one interview , than the NY Iman has done in the year since this project started.
Report Post »I felt the reporter did very little to help the progress achieved by these two religious ministers , with his inappropriate questions .
AsianForTeaPartyConservative
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 9:32pmLooks more like a con man to me.
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 10:22pmthat FL imam lied to the pastor to please obama. they have no intention of stopping that vile atrocity mosque by Ground zero or even moving it. all-American DONALD TRUMP COULDN’T EVEN BUY THEM OUT. that mosque is an agenda, a signal: AMERICA IS WEAK AND CAN BE TAKEN.
Report Post »GeneralC_USA
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 6:57pmThe Pastor should not burn the Koran now. He should wait. If the Mosque is a go at ground zero, then EVERY PATRIOT should burn a Koran in protest. Imagine one million Korans burned in protest and then blame the imam building the mosque for inciting Americans to have to protest in such a way. If the burning of one Koran is that much of an insult, imagine a million of them all over the nation in protest of the mosque at ground zero.
Report Post »Rose2010
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 7:52pmAmen!
Report Post »AsianForTeaPartyConservative
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 9:29pmGreat idea! Please organize it. We need a leader willing to take all risk. No more kowtowing to evil.
Report Post »reelmom5
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 7:18amHate cannot turn hearts. Burning a book incites violence, not conversion. Not honor. They will know us by our love.
Report Post »TomBurpee
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 7:40am@GENERALC_USA
Report Post »An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind. War to exterminate extremists who wish to kill us is one thing. But burning a holy book, that’s another. Further more, if you think about it, rather than burning the Pastor’s bibles, the Muslims respected the Christian Holy Book and opted to burn flags instead. Think about that for a minute. Just think about it.
I’m not a peacey-peace, tree-hugging hippie mind you, I just don’t think poking the eye of our peaceful muslim neighbors is a bad idea. They blow themselves up, rather than go to Anger Management.
The_Truth
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 6:51pmThey are both wrong but what is interesting is, how many times folks have desecrated the image of Jesus Christ and continue to demonize Christians, and yet Islam gets a pass.
I don’t agree with the Pastor but understand his frustrations.
Report Post »rocktruth
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 7:38pmBut was the pastor truly wrong? What does the bible say?
PLEASE READ: 2nd KINGS 23:3-5
NOTE: Allah was a MOON GOD.
Look up: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/moongod.htm
Again please open your bible and read: 2nd KINGS 23:3-5 (interesting)
Report Post »30moves
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 9:18pmThe reason Islam gets a pass? Fear of flaming death.
Report Post »poppopschell
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 9:22pmRocktruth: Just one question my brother in Christ. What would Christ do in realtion to Muslims in light of His Sermon on the Mou8nt when He said BLESSED IS THE PEACEMAKER FOR IS A CHILD OF GOD. THE CORALLARY TO THIS IS: CURSED BE THE PERSON WHO IS A WARMONGER AND CONTENIOUS FOR HE IS A CHILD OF lUCIFER.
Report Post »Joseph
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 9:30pmIf he was a Moon God is that why we have so many Moonbats?
Report Post »rocktruth
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 11:40pmpoppopschell – God bless you! I love the Sermon on the Mount. I quote it all the time. Love your enemy’s! Do good to those who hate you! But Jesus also cleansed the temple with righteous anger.
Would the pastor be wrong for burning the Koran in private? Or is he wrong because he showing his works on TV in front of the whole world to see? Since when are Christian’s called to hide their works?
The fear of the Lord is to hate evil. Not people. The pastor believes the Koran is from the devil. If that can be validated should it be destroyed? Personally I think Idols like pornographic material should be burned.
God is very merciful and I personally lean toward His Grace. But Christ can only tolerate so much evil. God’s goodness & mercy is constantly being tested. Mercy is good, but God will not be mocked. He will divide light from darkness.
Too much tolerance will be our countries demise.
Right now, I do not believe it’s necessary to burn their holy book. But I want to always make sure I stand on the side of righteousness. Questions are good.
Matthew 10:28
And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul.
But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Psalm 56:11
Report Post »In God I have put my trust;
I will not be afraid. What can man do to me?
rocktruth
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 6:49pmThis pastor felt it was wrong and was looking for a way out.
Report Post »Loki
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 10:03pmOr the “talk” by the FBI “convinced” him of changing his mind….
Report Post »kb1200cc
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 6:49pmI think it was a clear illustration of the difference between have the legal right to do something and having that “something” be hurtful and in poor taste. If that was his intention then it was brilliant. It also shows that sometimes in a polite and free society you compromise for your neighbors. Rauf should l.earn that
Report Post »Joseph
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 9:28pmI just read another news feed that Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf claims that Americans are gravley missinformed on the true nature of Islam. All of these reports that Muslims have any hate towards Americans and especially Christians now or ever in the past, are nothing more that Fairytails
Report Post »kralspaces
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 6:49pmFinally, a brave Imam.
Report Post »poppopschell
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 9:19pmDon’t be too surprised if this brave,reasonable IMAN has an “accident.” which will then be blamed on Christians. The radical Islamists can’t allow such compromising behavior to stand.
Report Post »EqualJustice
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 12:07amHe changed his mind already and said he did not say they would move the mosque. Damn and here I thought you could TRUST these Muslim Imams! I still don’t get how a small church with LESS than 50 people got so much attention in the first place? How did this become a world wide news event???
Report Post »Sunnyr
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 6:38pmThis “pastor” should NOT burn any Korans and the “bridge building Imam” should NOT insist on putting his Cordoba House Mosque on sacred ground! They are BOTH WRONG!
Report Post »KnightErrantJR
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 6:49pmThat pretty much sums everything up.
Report Post »Rubicon
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 9:11pmI agree with you, even though they both have the American right to do so, the questions is “Should they?
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 10:18pmthese terrorists lied to the pastor, from the White House on down, to get him to not burn obma‘s buddies’ koran. it has nothing to do with US, islam still calls for AMERICANS to be subjugated or beheaded. they have been burning our flag for 40 years and they have hated Christians for 1300 years. we were able to defeat them up until they started to IMMIGRATE to Europe and America. now the collaborators in America will assist them and before you know it, you will be BOWING to their every demand like obama already is.
Report Post »justsayin
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 6:37pmGod bless you Danglinbags. We love you, and will pray for you and your misguided beliefs.
Report Post »GlennBeckIsADemagogue
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 6:36pmSarah Palin for President in 2012!
izzyncade
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 6:50pmIs it just me or is it completely misguided to keep coming back on this site as different names and purposely saying rude things? Danglebags really needs to get a job, but then again those ‘Bama bucks must be paying him well enough to troll around here for so long…
Report Post »GlennBeckIsADemagogue
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 6:56pmIzzyncade, i don’t know the gold is good guy. I’m curious, though. Why would you characterize as rude, “Sarah Palin for President in 2012”? If you have the first comment posted after a story, don’t you want it to be something significant?
Report Post »PeterBreitholtz
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 7:32pmWho owns Ground Zero Pussycat Lounge and Ground Zero Thunder Lingerie?…what bull$$$$…build the f$$$$$ mosque! @andersoncooper
Tweeted 9-8-10 via the web
Report Post »casseopea42
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 7:34pmI was starting to think that commenting on this site was his job?
Report Post »GlennFan865
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 7:54pmYES Sarah Palin 2012! (if you want this country to go straight to hell)
Sicboy
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 7:56pmFox news bitten by the P.C. Bug. Did everyone see, Fox said they would not cover the book burning?what a bunch of P.C. Wimps. Would fox get rid of that closet lib Shleppard smith. That guy makes my skin crawl.
Report Post »Miami
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 8:02pmDo you understand the meaning of demagogue?
Report Post »timeisnow
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 8:33pmAdd your comments
Report Post »Loki
Posted on September 9, 2010 at 10:00pmizzyncade, he has a job…
Report Post »He works for soros and his cronies…
Sits at one of the several puppet corps that soros owns, or the puppets he owns and works for them…..
ooooh i know.. its that one jerk that glenn unintentionally got fired for being a commie…