‘Not Fair to Be White’: See the Unbelievable New Campaign Sponsored by the University of Minnesota-Duluth
- Posted on June 21, 2012 at 6:21am by
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Here’s a pop quiz: What do we usually call unsubstantiated assumptions about someone’s class, or position in life, based upon the color of their skin?
That’s right, racism. And that appears to be what Campus Reform has uncovered at the University of Minnesota-Duluth, which is sponsoring an ad campaign whose core message is very difficult to distinguish from undiluted racism. Watch the ad below if you don’t believe us, and if that doesn’t convince you, keep reading:
Here is what Campus Reform has to say about the ad campaign:
The University of Minnesota – Duluth (UMD) is now sponsoring an ad-campaign designed to achieve “racial justice” by raising awareness of “white privilege.”
The project disseminates its message, that “society was setup for us [whites]“ and as such is ”unfair,” through an aggressive campaign of online videos, billboards, and lectures. The ads feature a number of Caucasians confessing their guilt for the supposed “privilege” that comes along with their fair features.[...]
“You give me better jobs, better pay, better treatment, and a better chance – all because of the color of my skin,” reads one poster that features a close shot of a Caucasian male.
The Un-Fair campaign also held a series of lectures and events on campus last semester. One included a presentation by Tim Wise, author of Dear White America. In his book, Wise confesses a “longstanding fantasy” where he turns to a man with a “God Bless the USA” button and asks him, “why can’t you just get over it?”
These lectures were publicly endorsed by university Chancellor Lendley Black. Black sent a message to the campus community in April describing his effort to “create an inclusive campus climate for all” through providing “support and… leadership to the Un-Fair Campaign.”
For those who are familiar with the work of Tim Wise, this should come as no surprise. Wise is one of the more infamous “anti-racist” activists alive, and is especially notable for having written a “Letter to the White Right” after the 2010 elections which includes quotes which dance dangerously close to an open desire for genocide. Consider the following, with special attention to the quotes in bold:
For all y’all rich folks, enjoy that champagne, or whatever fancy ass Scotch you drink.
And for y’all a bit lower on the economic scale, enjoy your Pabst Blue Ribbon, …
Whatever the case, and whatever your economic station, know this . . .
You need to drink up.
And quickly.
And heavily.
Because your time is limited.[...]
And in the pantheon of American history, old white people have pretty much always been the bad guys, the keepers of the hegemonic and reactionary flame, the folks unwilling to share the category of American with others on equal terms.
Fine, keep it up. It doesn’t matter.
Because you’re on the endangered list.
And unlike, say, the bald eagle or some exotic species of muskrat, you are not worth saving.
Wise has also accused the Founders of deliberately setting up a white supremacist society on CNN. Ironically, Wise is himself white.

Tim Wise
But even if one of the campaign’s speakers is crazy, some might be saying, that doesn’t mean the entire campaign is racist, right? Wrong. The evidence shows that this pervasive effort to tar hundreds of millions of people with the racist brush is an integral part of the Un-Fair campaign. For instance, the website associated with the Un-Fair campaign also includes such lovely posters as the following:
And bill boards with their slogan:

As well as four more videos:
As for the campaign’s slogan, “it‘s hard to see racism when you’re white,” the irony is almost too deafening to remark upon it at all. We certainly are not prepared to make such a harsh generalization about a race of people, but it does seem fair to say that, if this organization is considered to be representative of the white population, this slogan might have a point. Unfortunately, we don’t think self-hatred is the kind of racism they mean.
Worse yet is the fact that the idea of “white privilege” is as easily disproved as any other ugly racial stereotype. For instance, unless this campaign wants to argue with a straight face that a coal miner in West Virginia is more privileged than Colin Powell (in which case, they’d be laughed out of most reasonable company), their generalization completely falls apart. More to the point, using the term “white privilege” and slogans like “it‘s hard to see racism when you’re white” is a transparent and logically fallacious attempt to shut people up. The claim that whites who don’t agree with this stereotype are automatically trying to perpetuate racism completes the exercise in bullying that this campaign is.
A few weeks ago, the Blaze reported on the disgustingly racist attitudes of a resident of South Buffalo, who argued in full view of a camera that “blacks ruin neighborhoods.” This absurd stereotype was rightfully condemned. Yet now the University of Minnesota Duluth is lending institutional support to a campaign whose message is essentially “whites ruined the world and are trying to keep it ruined so that they can profit.” Granted, this isn’t particularly surprising, coming from a university whose very administrators consider the Constitution to be a symbol of “white privilege,” but it is still wrong.
Clearly, the Un-Fair campaign is aptly named.























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Comments (1039)
ghostsouls
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:07amSince obama got on the throne, all that has been done in this country was to segregate the white from the black, To divide the races, for political standing. obama was suppose to be the big Uniter of all peoples in this country, the great black hope. Instead he and his party has set race relations back more than 100 years. MLK wanted all people to get along, where blacks, and whites would walk hand in hand one day…..that is not obama’s dream. It is the eradication of the white race. I thought that was far fetched, but more and more it looks like the case.
Report Post »000degrees
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:20amIf white privilege means being able to readily identify every new breed of moron the left offers up to modern society at a moments notice then color me white…….
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:30ammoochele’s thesis was how blacks were treated differently in college, or that they came out of “white” colleges less likely to “help” black people. Moochele is a separatist. They both are. I‘d like to separate O’s white half from his black half…..just sayin.
Report Post »scherzophrenic
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:34amThe whole idea about White Privilege means that whites, no matter how incompetent they are would always have the upper hand in getting any job, that no demonstrable skills would be necessary. But exactly the opposite has happened with Affirmative Action (White Guilt). The low expectations for blacks has done them a grave disservice and we see the disastrous fruits of good intentions in our first Affirmative Action president. We see the disasters of black-run, inner city schools, and black-run cities, where incompetence and criminal behavior rules every level.
Report Post »For ***** and giggles, we have, on permanent display, Al “Resist We Much” Sharpton, the one token black without any actual journalistic skills on MSNBC.
johnjamison
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:41amThis college should have its educational license pulled along with all government funds. There literally 3 poor whites for every one poor black in America. Those whites are 50% less likely to qualify for the same welfare that the black recieve. Whites represent 60% of the population Blacks 18% Whites get 45% of all the welfare government offers Blacks 32% of all welfare offered. And in areas like section 8 housing Blacks get around 73% and 90% in some cities. And even though Blacks make up only 18% of the populations they represent 45% of all federal workers,and 65% of the prison population. Blacks as whole are largest burden of society by race.
And as for the whole society is afraid of blacks that‘s BS black especially youth idolize and mimic criminals if people respond to the ways black dress and behave it’s because people will always know if it looks like a duck acts like a duck it’s 99% likely to be a duck. Then theres the whole black culture of violence,and crime. Blacks rob rape and steal at a rate that’s 5 times higher than any other race.
To put it bluntly Whites aren’t born entitled but most are born productive with a capacity to learn. It’s tevolution not entitlement. Being that whites and blacks are offered the same educational opportunities and the end results couldn’t be more contrast…It speaks volumes.
Report Post »IraHayesFlagRaiser
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:48amYou simply can’t fix STUPID. When the change takes place and it will someday in the future these types of people will be rounded up and relocated in an area of the US (most likely Boston Mass) and made to fend for themselves. They will not know how to do the simplest things – the basics BECAUSE THEY LIVED OFF THE TIT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. We pay for these people’s education at the most liberal schools, educated by people who are anti-America, ant-white bigots and then we give them a platform to speak! Why? Why are we doing this? Let’s put these fools in their places and refuse to give them any of our time by listening to or reading their stupid dribble.
Report Post »biohazard23
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:53amLiberal white guilt would be hysterical if it wasn’t so pathetic. If they loathe themselves that much, then why don’t they just kill themselves and stop wallowing in their self-imposed misery? Or, they could man up and thank God for… Oh, never mind. That wouldn‘t do since these liberal types don’t believe in something bigger than themselves. Let them all just kill themselves and stop bothering the rest of us with their delusions.
Report Post »Mil-Dot
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:54amPlease JohnJamison. Please don’t make up numbers and statistics out of mid-air. We are not stupid. Now, go back and do some real research and get back to us with the real stats. I know what they are and you are way off.
Report Post »yougottabekidding
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:57amI am assuming that this is a public funded University that is racist that should have it’s funding removed by law.
Report Post »disenlightened
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 8:02amWhat’s racist is a bunch of a universities and their petty faculties biting the hand that feeds them and conning minorities into worthless bachelor degrees in African-American Studies, Feminist Studies and Sociology, paid for by taxpayers.
Report Post »booger71
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 8:05amBetter tell that to my white Scottish ancestors who were slaves to England a lot longer than the blacks were slaves in America.
Report Post »Ray2447
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 8:10am“Race, Class, and Gender” is the mantra of Marxist-Leninist professors who spew their stereotyping hate messages from taxpayer funded college and university podiums – as shown in “Marxist Valley College” at Youtube. http://tinyurl.com/7ub3dv7
What amazes me most about these “special identity politics,” propagandists is how most of them have never even had a long term job outside the educational system, especially one requiring hard physical labor. They’ve just migrated from college student to college professor without ever taking the silver spoon they were born with out of their parasitic Marxist mouths. :-/
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 8:12amI do not and did not ever own slaves, I do not and will not discriminate against anyone of color, THEREFORE I have no white guilt.
These people must have done something way wromng in their lives to write on their face…I say they are guilty, so put them in jail.
Report Post »old white guy
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 8:21amas one of those old white people i say go pound sand. you want to improve your life then get off your butt and work. learn how to do something other than complain about somone elses success. the government did not give me what i have, and minorities did not give me what i have, i worked for it. this university is part of what is wrong with america today. self loathing morons who are incapable of rational thought. close it.
Report Post »Square Dancer
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 8:30amMy dog is smarter than university professors….and so am I.
Report Post »fedup ohio
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 8:30am@johnjamison
I checked you numbers and there is one number that is incorrect. The number of blacks in U.S. is not 18%, only 12.6%. Here is a link from latest census, http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.htm
Report Post »Most blacks are supported by the tax payer, by one form or another, welfare or prison, etc… EVERYONE knows this, but nothing ever changes. The handouts are endless for them. I have no white guilt, I have never discriminated against one Black person in my life. But I have been discriminated against because of my white skin. When I see a black person in a good job, I think “who gave them that job”, because most did not earn the position. When is the black community going to get some self respect and start working for what they get?
Kankokage
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 8:31amThis video is racism at its worst. It is rejecting Martin Luther King Jr’s exhortation, and focusing purely upon the color of skin. These people, all of them, sicken me.
I don’t ever say this, but if these people hate themselves this much then they should just go kill themselves. When they reach the other side, Dr King won’t even look at them for shame.
Report Post »Infected
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 8:47amWe are privileged because….
we do not kill each other
our parents wanted us when we were born
our father stayed in our lives
we understand that nothing is free
we do not destroy our own neighborhoods
we understand that other people do not owe us anything
we understand that rights are given by God not government
we understad that welfare is a last resort not a way of life
our pants stay up
We are also privileged because we have Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity to inspire us,,, rather than Barack Obama, Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton telling us we are entitled.
suttonea76
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 9:20amThis is another level of appeasement brought forth by liberals out there that just want to pander. If anything being white nowadays is a curse brought on from lending institutions to the education system that caters and pushes through unprepared minorities while white kids are not afforded that dishonesty (thank God) so they can receive increased budgets from the state to continuously declare themselves as “exemplary”. I was also not approved for a student loan with the same exact credentials and income levels as others who just happened to not be white. So in essence, affirmative action has hurt everyone as a forced leveling of the playing field has distorted the truth and given all a blurred vision of opportunity. White people are denied because they are white and minorities are approved because they are not white plain and simple. Lay out the rules that applies to everybody to succeed and don’t bend them to avoid the impropriety given by activist groups. People must understand rules and abide by them and realize they get no special treatment because no one is special. We have essentially no leadership in this country anymore as we have administrators out there that can’t handle pissed off, ignorant people and stand their ground.
Report Post »Operaman
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 9:22amWhen YOUR people were being sold by THEIR OWN to the slave-traders, MY people (in Estonia) were getting their ASSES beaten down by the Russians. So go cry to someone who cares about your victim mentality. Better yet, quit your whining and work hard at something besides protesting. Or maybe that’s just too damned hard!
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 9:25amI am still waiting for my white privilege to kick in….I could use a bit right now.
Report Post »MBA
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 9:31amWhat a pathetic worthless piece of crap obamy is. Can you imagine how unhappy and dissatisfied he and his “wife” are even though he — a non-american, uneducated, ignorant minority was elected to the highest and formerly most honorable office in the USA. No where else would he have had the opportunity to become famous, rich, and powerful just because he was part black. It is a shame he is so full of hate that he wants to destroy everything instead of leaving a fabulous legacy –given the opportunity. Oh well–once a racist, always a racist and it’s not the white people who hate (they are mostly working, supporting their families and the welfare class, and minding their own business.)
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 9:44amWow. A lot of stupid responses here.
First of all, identifying the social-historical phenomenon “White Privilege” is not racism. The article itself starts out with a reasonable definition of “racism,“ but it fails to note the obvious point that ”White Privilege” does not make assumptions about people based on their race. Can anyone deny that in the United States, white people have historically enjoyed a higher social and economic status due to inequalities in law and prevailing cultural prejudices? Is it possible in any way to dispute this claim?
Those historical disparities still affect us. Formal legal segregation on a large scale only ended two generations ago. Is anyone arguing that the culture of prejudice and racism simply disappeared when Jim Crow was abolished?
It’s quite pathetic to see this kind of cry-baby victim stuff from you Blazers. Boo hoo! Someone said white people owned slaves and enforced a system of segregation and that we are still living with the consequences of those institutions! Waaaaahh!
Hey, guess what–the fact that African tribes sold slaves does not diminish the severity of the crimes of American slavery. The childish “I know you are but what am I” dodge has no place in this conversation.
Report Post »Thomas
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 10:14amSo? I hate to see these people be made liars so lets make it true. When its up to me or my vote then I am going to do everything I can to make these people’s beliefs true.
Report Post »zorro
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 10:14amJust for the record, and I hate to keep bringing this up on this website, not all minorities agree with this garbage. There are many of us also outraged at this crap. Your beef is with the liberal white folks who somehow think they’re guilty of something. Lay off of all the minority bashing. Some of us, many of us, are on the same side.
Jacka$$es….
Report Post »muffythetuffy
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 10:15amWe Earned It That Is Why
Thanks to white Western Europeans everyone on earth now lives and benefits from a White Western European virtual world. Our science, mathematics, law, music, navigation, commerce, banking, culture, medicine, education, technology, values and other Western European concepts benefit the non-achiever peoples. In 40 years after adopting Western Culture, the Feudal Japanese nation became a world power.
We earned it and we deserve it so get use to it. If there were only 100 people on Earth and two of them were white, the whites would be ruling.
Report Post »spirited
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 10:26am@…Pencilman
How about those endentured slaves (euro whites)?
How about the dirty drunkard Irish?
How about the mafia dago, grease-balls?
How about the dumb Polock?
How about the lazy wet-b@ck?
etc…
How about women (man’s property)?
Enough with the slave shame.
Report Post »Enough with the “My grandmother was a typical white woman” cr@p.
cessna152
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 10:31amI‘m lucky I’m a “white” Christian because:
- I’m persecuted and God blesses that.
- I’m hated for no reason and God blesses that.
- I have been blessed to Bless others and God blesses that.
- I pray, protect and help others and God blesses that.
One last thing, I did not realize I was white until liberalism/progressivism told me I was. However, I am not white, I am a follower of Christ. There really are only two groups in the world… Good and evil., uniters and dividers. It’s very easy to see which group these people are from.
Report Post »marhee9
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 10:35amRemember all the claims that Barack Obama was the first “post racial” President? We have now witnessed racism taken to a whole new level. Is this what “post racial America” looks like? How’s that hope and change working out for everyone?
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-WWrGHn5QQ
PubliusPencilman
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 10:41amSpirited,
No doubt that many ethnic minorities have faced discrimination in the United States, but, with the possible exception of women in some situation, can you find with any of these groups the kind of dramatic disparities in economic and social status that continue to plague the African American community? Are you arguing that discrimination against the Irish, Polish, Italians and other minority groups later deemed “white” was ever encoded into the law to the extent that racist beliefs against blacks were? This would be a pretty difficult argument to make?
To suggest that continued discrimination against blacks isn’t a problem because there was once widespread distrust of the Irish is completely silly. It just doesn’t follow logically.
No one is asking you to feel shame–that’s your own personal problem. White privilege exists, and you can either whine and be defensive about it, or you can recognize it and work towards a more truly equal society.
Report Post »RamonPreston
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 10:45amObama is part of the New World Order. They want to reduce the world’s population from 6 billion to one-half billion so there will be few enough to control and enslave. A black minister says that Obama is going to start with the blacks, not the whites. He predicts this will start on election day. See his video on Youtube:
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBTixqz7ln8&feature=relmfu
This country is in BIG trouble.
Kikki Santana
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 10:49amSame things happens in Cuba when Castro took over. We need more white people to defend and speak out for our self, without been afraid. All this should be stop before it`s too late. The white people in this country are the ones that are indiscriminate and we shall blame the Liberals blacks and white for what`s happening. Yes Obama and his people more than any one! They never mention that the Tea Party support Allen West or Michael Still and others blacks Conservative like Martin L.King family? Sure, that `s not convinced for them. Down with all the Communist in the White House!!!
Report Post »The Giver
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 10:54amI am a “brown” woman married to a “white” guy living in a very white state. I do get stared at ( not just because I’m beautiful) and followed more by security in stores. But I realize that there are higher crime stats with people of color. Profiling is a normal part of life. We learn through experiences and through what we learn. Good example is what is being done with children‘s sports where they don’t keep score so no one is hurt. The children keep score in their minds. We can‘t pretend that the crime stats don’t exist. I am a professional and wish I could always be seen for me ( the individual) and not for the “group” that I get lumped in. Oh, well. Anyone that looks different in any way will get stares. Obama has made things worse because he’s given more freebies for votes. This has increased the resentment against the recipients of most of the services. All by design since they are hoping for race wars… Socialism, Marxism and Communism are so old and predictable. But I never realized how many whites were on welfare till we moved to this very white state. This nanny state has about 1/3 of the people on welfare (whites) , and still fighting against businesses and lower taxes. We need to eliminate quotas, handouts, and abortions and let this country thrive with the spirit of brotherly love and entrepreneurship. Welfare is racist. I pray God continues to bless this country.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 10:57amNice try PENCILNECK. The only whining and crying around here seems to be yours.
Report Post »If you feel guilty about being white that’s your psychosis, not mine champ.
I don’t feel a shred of guilt for events me and mine had no part in. When I‘m competing for a job I’m competing against EVERYONE. If you and your lefty friends feel that’s somehow “un-fair” (I couldnt’ resist) again..that’s your psychosis.
But of course..this is the latest lefty meme to be exposed this “white privilege” meme whereby you want to create the illusion that everything in America is set up to favour whites over blacks. It’s just another angle on the same old marxist themes. It’s very difficult to believe blacks are being inhibited in some way when women like Oprah Winfrey are among the wealthiest, most influencial individuals in the land. But that brings us to another lefty tactic…sowing unrest. You see..you lefties need victims, you need complainers, you need to sow unrest because violence is the only way you know to effect your agenda. In the market place of ideas, your sagging ideology has lost and lost miserably so maknig people angry about “something” to the detriment of others is all you have ever had in your arsenal. Making people envious, making people upset, making people covet..that’s your game.
Let’s not mince words here PENCILNECK…creating unrest to force violent political change is what this is all about. That’s how you lefties operate..you always ha
NeoFan
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 11:01amDo you notice that these guilt ridden white people never move to Compton or the south side of Chicago? Why do you think that is? If you feel you have white privilege then by all means Live By Example sell all you have move to Compton and spend your time and money helping that community before you suggest anyone else do anything.
Report Post »atechgeek
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 11:07amIt’s almost like they want a civil war. WTF
Report Post »Just be a good human being and they can race bait all they want. It ain’t gonna fly here.
This makes me want to vomit.
AvengerK
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 11:10amLOL…“economic disparities” PENCILNECK? I see..so when you’re born..you must be born on a level playing field economically?
In your lefty world, kids cannot be born to poor families, middle class families or wealthy families because their families worked hard and had that smarts (or not) to get them in those positions. We must all be born with a bank account of the same value and if it falters during our lifetimes, someone else has to give something up so that we don’t have “economic disparities”. Is that it?
You know what PENCILNECK? Some people just wont’ be successful, they‘re too stupid or too lazy or just don’t know how to get there. And that’s ok.
Why do you think universities are full of indian and asian kids? Maybe because their parents work like dogs to get somewhere and have the means to put their kids through college? Their cultures emphasize education and success..ironically..something your “white guilt” has succeeded in diminishing among white children. It’s a cultural problem PENCILNECK..not an “economic disparities” problem. Do you think these asian and indian families come where with huge bank accounts? You’re deluding yourself if you think that. The come over with nothing and work like dogs.
Maybe you should be sowing unrest for better work ethics and the emphasis of education and success among ALL cultures rather than trying to convince one group they’re victims and to hate another group for being different? Idio
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 11:13amMil dot if you wouold bother to investigate you would find out how right my numbers are …Of course those numbers aren’t up to date for instance the welfare numbers are from 09,the prison numbers are 07,the federal work force numbers are 2010, but those are the numbers. Don‘t like them show me I’m wrong
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 11:17amATECHGEEK…Bingo!. That’s exactly what they want. Look at every communist revolution. The “intellectuals” go to the youth and convince them that they’re being oppressed and held back.
Quite honestly…if America is so racist and pro-white..why does the entire world fall over itself to come here..to the point of breaking immigration laws to do so? I’ll tell you why..because America gives someone the best opportunities for education and success..and who set up that government, that economy, that institution and that opportunity to be better? Oh..those old white men we’re meant to hate.
Report Post »Roberto G. Vasquez
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 11:18amWhites can experience racisim any time they want. All they have to do is drive into any big city black ghetto on a Saturday night and then go for a walk! Blacks, on the other hand, have to really look hard for it, and maybe never find it even then. (BTW, I’m an ex-ghetto-cop.)
Report Post »drattastic
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 11:22amThese self loathing brain dead liberals are pathetic. Granted there are fools who buy this crap but most people know what they can see and what they live .The college student who has to get loans and carry debt and work a job to enjoy the “privilege” of a college education while others are handed grants for the color of their skin. The graduate who does well in college, who sees those less qualified get the job that should have been theirs all because they don’t have a dark enough skin tone. The worker who doesn’t get that promotion that they have worked so hard for yet some undeserving complete idiot does and we all know why ,to fill that quota. Or a hundred more stories just like these . Yes “white Privilege ” is awesome .
Report Post »Truthbeliever2
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 11:26amPubliusPencilman
Look publius, everything I have is MINE,and everything whites have rightfully belongs to them. It is a sin to look at another individual and say “That’s not fair, and I want what they have.” It’s called jealousy and its sickening. You and your ilk are takers and blood-suckers.
Report Post »You want me to give up my privileges because of someone elses jealousy of me and my situation??? You are crazy! Some people are going to have it better than others, that’s life.
Then again maybe your dream of World Communism will come true and everyone on the entire planet will have everything equal. You and the other blood-sucking takers are like children chasing the FANTASY of Utopia. You and the parasites you speak on behalf of need to find pride within yourself and stay the hell away from mine. Go make your own!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3monkeysmomma
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 11:27amAll “white priviledge” means to me is that my little boys will have to keep a 4.0 GPA in order to compete for the same university admission as a minority female with a 2.5 and then still won’t be able to get a public sector job due to the color of their skin.
Yay! They are soooooo lucky!
Report Post »Salgofnir
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 11:29amI hate to tell them but the vast majority of White America does not care. They just want to go to work and provided for their family. When I was studying to take the MCAT there were 2 Hispanic sisters and and an African American in some of my classes. They were not taking it very seriously and I asked why not. One of them actually answered “doesn’t really matter, I am a female and minority, I am getting no matter what my score is.” She was right. She had a 2.9 GPA and scored poorly on her test. All 3 of them got in ahead of a friend of mine that had a 3.8 and did really well on his test. When he went for his interview he was told the school all ready had enough white males in the up coming class and they would make sure he was one of the first interviewed the following year. This was 25 years ago. In college I tutored head start for general and organic chemistry. It was a program that was free for minorities. White males were not allowed to come by.
As an aside, have you ever watched the show “The first 48?” Watch it some time and see who is killing who over weed.
Report Post »kadster01
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 11:48amThis is why white people are disappearing. Not literally, but as a recognized ethnic group…as an identity. They‘ve bought into this notion that they should feel guilty for the fact that they’ve been the majority, that predominantly light-skinned people conquered and populated this tiny continent and established the greatest nation in the history of the world. They, as a result, are the most guilt-ridden, suicidal race in existence. I refuse to follow them into oblivion.
Report Post »mils
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 11:54amWHITE?.. yes, god did create perfection in that color..
Report Post ».HOWEVER,
Obama is the great divider and it becomes more evident daily. I’m “white’..i work hard, everyday..raised my kids without welfare, none gone to prison, on drugs, runnin the streets..so if white means i have respect for myself, community, nation, and it means i’m a racists..THEN COLOR ME RACISTS.
cessna152
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 12:06pmOkay you dopes, if you’re that “guilt ridden” then give your house and all YOUR possessions to the oppressed, move into Camden or Detroit then maybe… maybe I’ll take you seriously.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 12:22pmHaha. All delightful arguments. But really, I’m not the one with a guilt or a shame problem. Why exactly is it that so many of you react so quickly by feeling your race is under attack and that it needs defending? Do you identify that strongly with your race? That’s funny, because I don’t identify strongly with a race–I identify myself as an American. As such, it would be incredibly ignorant not to acknowledge that in America the deck has historically been stacked against African Americans, and that hundreds of years of legal and cultural discrimination didn’t simply disappear overnight.
As an American, acknowledging these inequalities (and acknowledging that as a white person, I have NOT suffered from these disadvantages) and working towards rectifying them is the only ethical thing to do.
Report Post »JESUSFREAK702
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 12:36pmI, like many of you are so sick and tired of race being the subject of everything. I am a very conservative white CHRISTian male living in America. I am not afforded a single privelege. I work hard every day in the automotive industry. I like to think of myself as an intelligent man, but was never given the oppertunity to go to college because I couldn’t afford it. I was married at 21, and waited 2 years to have kids because I wanted to try to get a degree of some sort. Over the next 10 years we slowly put my wife through school. Now, I’m 13 years into my marriage, still working in the automotive industry, raising a family, and sending countless “minorities” to colleges that I would love to attend myself. I bought a house 8 years ago in a beautiful neighborhood. My home is now 30% of the value of my loan, as are all of the houses around me. I have never been late on one payment. Over the last 3 years or so, there have been numerous foreclosures. These foreclosures have been purchased and turned into section 8 housing. Day by day my neighborhood is deteriorating. My children can’t play outside because my 10 year old daughter is continually harassed by boys, and my 6 year old son is scared of cars driving 60mph down my street. If this is “WHITE PRIVELEGE”, yes…I am guilty of being “THE MAN”.
Report Post »I rest easy knowing that the war is already won, and one day I’ll be sitting at the feet of my Father in Paradise. I pray that all of you can find that joy an
HappyStretchedThin
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 12:36pm@ Pencil,
Report Post »If you want to help people feel grateful for the blessings they have, why do you need to inject race into it?
If you want to help people treat others equally, why do you have to try to make the group which has had more historical material success feel guilty for having succeeded.
Free markets are not zero-sum games. Rising tides DO float all boats. When people are free to choose for themselves, and they choose success, it’s not prima facia on the backs of the poor, or any race.
The problem with your thesis of “white privilege” is that it mistakes equality of result for equality of opportunity, then makes race and the history of race relations responsible for inequality of results.
If you measured instead the freedom of opportunity enjoyed by all races in the US, you’d arrive at a much different conclusion.
We owe to our founders the ideas that made possible the full racial freedom of opportunity that we now enjoy. Focusing on the opportunity also allows you to theorize failure much more powerfully. Instead of assuming it has something to do with an arbitrary skin color, you can talk about real causes and the effects they produce. Like when you:1. stay in school, 2. don‘t have a child until you’re out of high school, 3. don‘t have a child until you’re married, and 4. stick with even the lowest paying job you find, your behavior-your choices-produce a poverty rate of nearly zero. Freedom works for black AND white, with no privileges required.
Dr Vel
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 12:45pmzorro “Just for the record, and I hate to keep bringing this up on this website, not all minorities agree with this garbage. There are many of us also outraged at this crap. Your beef is with the liberal white folks who somehow think they’re guilty of something. Lay off of all the minority bashing. Some of us, many of us, are on the same side.”
While much of what you say is true you are repeating one glaring error which requires comment. No one is bashing minorities when they state the truth and quote true statistics. This is where you become those who suck society dry and turn America into Hell. Truth is truth and true facts do not lie. Yet you are saying those facts are false accusations used for racist hate mongering. Go search for all the flash mob videos and do a statistical study by race. Or do the same statistical study on crime. Why is the greatest percentage of all crime committed by a statistical minority of population? This is not the fault of the victims of this crime they are tired of supporting those who plunder and destroy their hard working lives. Be a better person and start standing up within your community, start working for a reversal of these true facts instead of blaming the messenger. These messengers are tired of being called liars and racists for merely telling it like is is. They are also tired of being robbed, raped, and murdered by those they work to support, those who themselves refuse to work honestly for what they have.
Report Post »MIBUGNU2
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 12:51pmMy Parents, (Yes, I have a Mom and a Dad)..Taught me Respect,
Report Post »to study hard, and work hard to achieve My Goals..and for this I
should feel guilty for being WHITE….Liberals are DISGUSTING !!
Maji
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 12:57pmThe article says “It‘s hard to see racism if your’re white” as opposed to seeing it everywhere??
Is your toilet paper racist too???
Just like the news anchor the other day who makes a profession out of skin color!
Never held skin color up for ridicule….but if you’re a“slacker”(or a lib)expect some grief.
Report Post »I‘ve gotten mine when I’ve deserved it.
BCanook
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 1:04pmThe word has been seriously diluted over the past 3 years to the point where it means nothing – only a word used by the left in an attempt to disparage someone they don’t like (i.e. republican, conservative …). The young, naive persons in the videos have what they think is a message, but in reality they are nothing but a tool for the left – parrots. Pull my string, but only once because I’m only programmed to say one thing.
Report Post »formidable_foe
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 1:07pm@ Pencilman,
Interesting that you refer to yourself as an “American,“ but refer to blacks as ”African Americans.“ Why not refer to ALL OF US as ”Americans?” How is this ad not racist against whites? It blames any perceived ill faced by people of color on whites and attempts to make one race of people (whites) feel like anything they have achieved is because of the white color of their skin. Shameful. It is actually laughable that we are still talking about racism when this country elected a black man to the highest office in the land. If racism was at a level idiots like these would like us to believe, Obama would have never been elected president.
Report Post »sgallion1
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 1:18pmYou are absolutely right about this. The unfortunate thing is that libs see this as their only chance to keep Obama in office. The really SCARY thing is……they might succeed unless more people get their head out of the sand and stand up against these idiots. I say the fight is on and more people ARE waking up to the left’s tactics. Let’s pray Obama is a one term pres.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 1:35pmAnd to those who I haven’t responded to yet:
Boohoo! I‘m sorry that you feel someone is telling you that you can’t be proud of your accomplishments. Are you all so terribly insecure that you need to be told how great you are all the time? I for one am quite proud of my accomplishments, but maybe I’m just not a whiner.
Report Post »rc30
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 1:38pmLOL now I have blacks in my family. Am proud to say that. But this is BS and just a left plot to get there man four more years. Am so sick of this BS. They get the world handed to them and it still not fair. Last I looked blacks kill blacks. Its black steeling from other blacks. Look if you want a better life and your black. Stop crying get off your ass and go work your ass off for it. Stop blaming every white person for your dam problems.
Report Post »My sister and her husband lived in the worst parts of Flint Michigan. Had a kid at 17. They both worked hard and both went to school. Both got out of there and have a great life now. They didn’t beg ask for welfare they worked. Her kids all went to collage. They did this because they where a family unit.
lassiegirldawn
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 1:59pmIt’s The Mommy Dearest coming out in him.
Report Post »KyleD
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 2:06pmHow is THIS not racism? I‘m being accused I’m racist because I‘m white and that I secretly don’t want to even look at black people. I’m extremely offended.
Report Post »mcsledge
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 2:18pmInfected – Well put!
Report Post »woodyb
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 2:43pmBut this UMD campaign is NOT RACIST????????????????????
Report Post »chrisa0917
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 2:45pm@ Scherzophrenic…Are there ANY journalists at MSNBC?????
Report Post »kadster01
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 2:56pm@Pencilman
“Boohoo! I‘m sorry that you feel someone is telling you that you can’t be proud of your accomplishments. Are you all so terribly insecure that you need to be told how great you are all the time? I for one am quite proud of my accomplishments, but maybe I’m just not a whiner.”
But you are obviously affected enough to keep on posting about it. If you were as indifferent as you pretend to be, you’d move on to more important things.
So, why then do I keep coming back? Because I live in a town where whites are a minority and this topic saturates just about everything that happens here. I live in an area where I witness white people losing their identities and “acting black” in everything from their dress to their EOG scores. I am sickened by it.
I am also sickened by the lack of initiative from the black people where I live. I know many of them. Some get past that stereotype and live happy, productive lives, but the vast majority – sadly – do not. This isn’t about any race demanding to be told how great they are, this is about EVERY race becoming great based upon merit and not skin color. What galls me is the constant apologies from whites for having done great things.
Report Post »stopspending
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 2:57pmUnfair to be white???? What part of life is fair? That is the most absurd ad campaign I have ever seen. It is giving low performer the excuse they need to under preform. How do you explain a black man in the highest position in the world? Did he look white when he was campaigning?
Report Post »The first white lady telling her story about swimming is not being honest. She is younger than I am and women could compete in HS in swimming, tennis, softball, cheer leading , gymnastics, and track. I grew up in a white community but certainly not privileged. We had no swim team because we could not afford swimming. We did not have lessons of any kind but spent out time on our own practicing. Father in law has an 8th grade education and was a low paid ironworker. My family worked hard and got an education in order to be successful.
Quit the derisiveness.
johnsnare
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 3:18pmExcellent, Ghostsouls, you nailed it perfectly, and accurately. Am I supposed to apologize for being white? Where the hell did this new moronic mentality come from.? Is this the new breed of intellectuals, who have an agenda designed to divide the country? It certainly looks that way. President Bozo, was supposed to unite us, and, all I see is more confusion, and hatred. We need a Republican President in 2012. Go Mitt.
Report Post »I support God's Israel!
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 3:25pmThe only CORRECT ANSWER is the one cessna152 gave. READ IT and get over yourself.
I am a Christian. I am neither white nor black. I am a Christian. In God’s eyes, THERE IS NO COLOR,
only THOSE WHO BELONG TO HIM and if you don’t know who they would be, read Acts 4:12
ALL YOUR ANSWERS ARE HALF-BAKED and PRETTY MUCH SELF-SERVING
Report Post »EXCEPT CESSNA152′s RESPONSE. Fresh air for the stale responses I have read so far.
Independent4233
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 3:37pmPUBLIUSPENCILMAN
“Hey, guess what–the fact that African tribes sold slaves does not diminish the severity of the crimes of American slavery. ”
Slavery has absolutely nothing to do with black failure and inability today. Blacks cannot compete in a first world society with a group I.Q. average of 85.
They have lived a stone-age existence for 5000 years, never having invented a written language or even the wheel. While they were living in mud huts and villages most of the rest of the world were building civilizations.
Blacks fail throughout the world even in areas where slavery was never in existence, not just the US. Trying to cloud the issue with your ignorant spin just won’t cut it. It certainly doesn’t disprove anything our eyes and ears tell us is true.
“The childish “I know you are but what am I” dodge has no place in this conversation.”
Homosexual activism for the purpose of supporting the ludicrous leftist agenda has no place in any conversation.
But I will say one thing about blacks, and that is most of them will not put up with homosexuals trying to corrupt their societies and their children. The black ministers here proved that, and the nation of uganda…along with others…vociferously denounces homosexuality, and a very large segment of their population wants to kill them.
Why don’t you go to Africa and see how many converts you can come up with.
Report Post »modsquad
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 3:53pm“we do not kill each other
our parents wanted us when we were born
our father stayed in our lives
we understand that nothing is free
we do not destroy our own neighborhoods
we understand that other people do not owe us anything
we understand that rights are given by God not government
we understad that welfare is a last resort not a way of life
our pants stay up
We are also privileged because we have Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity to inspire us,,, rather than Barack Obama, Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton telling us we are entitled.”
INFECTED,
Report Post »Beautifully said. Upon reading the article and watching this drivel video I was boiling with contempt. Your post did the trick. These liberal race baiters and these self-hating whites can go straight to hell.
SickOfSociety
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 3:55pmThis is the kind of crap that the left wants you to buy into. I say no. I say write to this school http://www.d.umn.edu/contact/ and tell them what you really think. The more people stand up against this crap, the more we let the world know what sort of racism they are truly spreading.
Report Post »modsquad
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 4:04pmATECHGEEK
“It’s almost like they want a civil war. WTF”
Report Post »They do. And please God let it be so. I am happy to cling to my bible. The decent out number them and the decent have more guns and ammo. Once and for all rid this country of this racist left wing vermin. Prepared. Locked and loaded. And ready for the next Fort Sumter.
PubliusPencilman
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 4:05pmTypical Blaze! I argue that we are still dealing with disparities that are a result of a long history of segregation and discrimination. Independent4233 all but confirms my point with a textbook racist argument that black fail because they are inherently stupid. Guess which of us gets dogpiled with angry responses!
Report Post »whitechicuva
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 4:24pmI thought I had seen and heard everything stupid. They have proved me wrong!
Report Post »2GurlsGramma
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 4:24pmInfected
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 8:47am
We are privileged because….
we do not kill each other
our parents wanted us when we were born
our father stayed in our lives
we understand that nothing is free
we do not destroy our own neighborhoods
we understand that other people do not owe us anything
we understand that rights are given by God not government
we understad that welfare is a last resort not a way of life
our pants stay up
We are also privileged because we have Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity to inspire us,,, rather than Barack Obama, Louis Farrakhan, Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton telling us we are entitled.
HOORAH! YOU NAILED IT!
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 4:26pmStop insulting my intelligence PENCILNECK.
Report Post »You bleat “economic disparities” (race based of course) and “white privilege” for post after post and then you try to deny it by saying you “don’t identify strongly by race”? Your entire mewling premise is based on race. You‘re the one trying to impose guilt on others and you dare say that you’re not the one with a guilt problem? It’s clearly your problem. Your entire house of cards of an argument is based on shaming whites for perceived guilt and “economic disparities”.
You pathetic cretin.
formidable_foe
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 4:37pmPENCILMAN,
I bet you’re a supporter of giving blacks reparations too. Am I right? How much should each of us whites have to pay before things are even? Would the professional black athletes making millions of dollars a year be exempt? What is your solution to this perceived societal ill of racial unfairness? BTW, I am not insecure and feel zero guilt about my accomplishments.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 4:39pmJOHNSNARE…the “mentality” is just a new window dressing on marxism. It’s all still about wealth redistribution and scapegoating elements of a society to foment civil unrest. This is classic marxism.
Report Post »Just look at the phrases PENCILNECK’s keepers told him to recite..“economic disparity” as if we’re all meant to be born with an healthy bank account..especially if you’re not white. In PENCILNECK’s marxist world you have to feel bad about being white and then give up “stuff” as his keepers demand it..or else. Text book Marxism.
That’s all this is, they proppped up the corpse of marxism, brushed it’s hair and called it “economic disparity based on inherent racial inequality in the system”. Same as telling the proletariate that if they overthrow the Czar they’ll all have bread and land. How’d that work out?
By the way..that footage of Obama telling you to “open your hearts and minds to Professor Dereck Bell”? Well this is the kind of stuff Bell taught…“economic disparity in a system gamed to favour whites”.
Look..the left needs victims to keep unhappy. It needs to constantly stir trouble because it’s lost the argument in the market place of ideas.
lev8mysoul
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 4:39pmPublicPencilman
The OTHER minority populations, like most in the white population, are raised to NOT be dependent on society. They are not raised with someone like Al Sharpton, et al, telling them that they were “victims” and, instead of being helped UP from that percieved victimization, are taught that it pays to BE a victim. Many of these men, women, and children have no clue that they’re being held down, or if they do, they can‘t see that it’s not the White population doing it, but instead, themselves. It won’t be until the black population is shown by example, and brought up by example, and in many cases FORCED to do so, that they’ll finally see what is needed if you truly want to succeed instead of allowing yourself to be held down. We’ve seen some of those in the black population who have done so.
For example,for several years my daughter witnessed a fellow student, black, who was excelling in school being beat down and bullied by his FELLOW BLACK students, using terms against him like “why you acting white”, etc. as well as physical attacks, because he was doing well in school. He was not the only black student treated like this by his fellow students, there were many more. He ended up addressing that treatment in his Valedictorian speech when he graduated.
Report Post »TomFerrari
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 4:40pmThis is more racist than ANY remarks I have heard self-professed racists make!
The very NOTION that its not “fair” to be white, is built upon a premise that white is BETTER than another skin tone.
PUH-LEEZE
Nobody, white, black, yellow, brown, red, or blue can do anything about their skin tone.
HOWEVER, what we can ALL control, is the CONTENT OF OUR CHARACTER !
I call, “HYPOCRITES!”
Oh, re: the “blue” people… Bing it… “blue Fugates”
Report Post »whitechicuva
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 4:46pmWell folks, just when you think you’ve seen and heard everything…somebody proves us wrong! This is the the most stupid thing I have had the misfortune to read…Shame on the people that are letting themselves be seen. Ashamed of them all!
Report Post »ginger ghent
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 4:46pmWhat absolute garbage!! That’s right folks…send your kids off to this indoctrination center and pay dearly for the “priviledge”…the world has gone mad.
Report Post »Susie40
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 5:31pmExcellent Article on a Despicable topic
Report Post »No matter what color a person is born, it is beyond their power. No one can change that. Nor can they choose to be other than what was given.
MLK’s plan of walking together in this world is the proper way.
The current admin. has supported separatist/eradication efforts.
MLK would be ashamed of them as am I. This institution of ‘higher education’ should be ashamed not only of what they are supporting (separation/eradication of races) but more of what they are ‘teaching’.
AvengerK
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 5:38pmWhat I find particularly hysterical are the morbid and sad faces on the idiots who agreed to do these ads. They’re just impossible to take seriously. “I’m white, and that makes me bad”.
It’s kind of like a reverse of the “born this way” meme the homosexual lobby uses. We’re meant to just accept and celebrate their “diversity” for being “born” what they are. But being born white to these sadsack lefties? Oh no…it’s a curse, a scarlet letter. A mark of shame. Oh the humanity..somebody skin me so that I never have to look at my shame again. Yuck…I’m so white.
Report Post »Amren
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 5:52pm@booger71,
Report Post »Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!
You are sooooooo right! I am a 2nd generation American. My Scottish ancestors and yours were slaves LOOOOONNNGGGGG before a black man set foot on this continent!
You want to try and make me feel guilty about my skin color? HA!!!!
You want me to feel guilty because YOUR OWN AFRICAN PEOPLE SOLD YOU INTO SLAVERY???
Double HA!!!!!
Why would anyone feel bad about the color of their skin? This is AMERICA!!! The land of Equality of OPPORTUNITY!!!
Oh, wait, I get it! You all want Equality of Outcome…..
Ya. Well. Work harder and learn to speak Standard American English instead of Ebonics and maybe I’ll hire you.
PubliusPencilman
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 6:28pmAvenger,
Again, if you feel shamed and chastened, then I‘m afraid that’s your problem. Does it insult you personally when people mention that white people in America owned slaves? They did. Did you personally create the problem? No. Is the problem going to fix itself if you just ignore it? No.
Look folks–the fundamental difference between the conservative view of race and the liberal view of race is that conservatives seem to believe that racism has gone away and that we must all be color-blind now. The liberal view is that, as I have said multiple times, the social and economic consequences of hundreds of years of racial oppression remain in society and that color-blind approaches allow these disparities to continue by ignoring them. Simple as that.
What most of you don’t understand (or refuse to understand) is that by recognizing the HISTORICAL reality of race (which for a long time was officially recognized in the laws of this country), the liberal view is not positing that race is an essential quality of an individual. The term “White Privilege” refers to “White” as a historical social and legal category. It certainly isn’t the fault of any of you if you happen to fall into that category, but it is just silly to deny that this category remains privileged in our society, if perhaps often only in very subtle ways.
Report Post »BFrezza
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 6:32pmMIL-DOT, have you ever heard the old saying “It is better to be silent and thought the fool rather than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt”?
JohnJamison’s numbers are, as he stated, a little dated, but they are “ball park” correct. And if you wish to correct someone, you are the one who had better do some research. And get your coloquialisms correct, it is “out of thin air”… not out of mid-air. Be careful, your ignorance is showing…
Report Post »Unix
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 6:33pmLOL, I’ve got a solution for ALL of these white people, put on some brown shoe polish! IDIOTS!!!!
Report Post »brezzeone
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 6:35pmThese people can solve their problem of being white. They can just kill themselves. Problem Solved.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 6:37pmLev8MySoul,
You make a good point about cultural pressures in some black communities to not “act white,” but clearly this attitude comes from somewhere–it‘s not that black people don’t like success. Remember, it has only been about two generations since it was literally encoded in American law in many places that black people had to remain separate from whites and “know their place.” Whiteness itself became associated with success, and cultural attitudes are passed down from parents to children. This does not excuse those kinds of behavior, but we cannot be ignorant and deny that it is part of a larger history of racial strife in this country.
It is great that this person graduated valedictorian, but cultures change very slowly. Refusing to acknowledge the roots of these cultural problems does nothing to solve them, and can only make them worse.
Report Post »PoliticallyRightUs.Com
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 6:42pmYou know… I am white… I have been unemployed since Feb 2007, I am a Veteran of 15+ years and what I see most is blacks and latinos working while mor eand more whitesd are un employed!!!
Report Post »And I might ad I am not a racist!!!
SLEAZYHIPPOs ILLEGITIMATE OFFSPRING
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 6:44pm@ publius…..I agree with the content of your statement that there still remains a disparity between white and black society. Some definitely institutional and some unfortunately cultural due to some of the pervasive attitudes that exist. I think fatherless homes is one of the biggest issues within the black community as this one stat is the greatest predictor of poverty in all races. I have some very very dear friends that are black and I have known for years. Very sweet and kindhearted and I have seen 1st hand some of the discrimination they face. I would stand shoulder to shoulder with them against such actions and attitudes. I’m just not sure this college program is approaching it in the right way because it could be said that it could then produce a reverse attitude toward white people that would be counter productive to the stated goal. We need healing forgiveness and compassion. Not more blaming and finger pointing. Just my thoughts.
Report Post »Unix
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:27pmOh come now Publis, you liberal tweaker, you think that your argument holds any water? You get what you make out of life, if you want to feel sorry for yourself or others, go right ahead…that is a loser mentality. I’ve experienced reverse racism, but I did not let that hold me back, I ignored it and moved on…your liberal line is dead, your mentality is futile, you are lying to us and yourself.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:59pmUnix,
Congratulations on your amazing triumph over the the nefarious forces of “reverse racism.” Clearly you are an inspiration.
But really, your argument is that because you have somehow risen above your oppressed life that everyone else should easily be able to just “move on”? Let me ask you, did your brush with “reverse racism” involve growing up in an economically depressed and crime ridden neighborhood because your parents were not allowed to live anywhere else? Did it involve being shoved into a failing public school as terrible as the neighborhood because your home city neglected it for years and did not invest resources into “colored” schools? Did it involve your parents placing little value in your education because they themselves were taught growing up that they have no right to be success like whites? Did it involve having a higher chance of being refused a loan for education or to start a business because of the color of your skin?
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 8:24pm@Dr Vel
Did my last tips to you help you with the pop-ups and junk?
Report Post »sweetgold
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 8:31pmI am white (as you can see ). I never really thought much about it until the dims and our prezz began to continue to talk an awful lot about it. It seems the dims say they love everybody (so do I) but I don‘t ram it down anyone’s throat. Why don’t they shut up and get on with their lives and leave us alone. Jeeeez !!!
The-Monk
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 9:28pm@HappyStretchedThin
You have no idea how much I enjoy your posts. I usually don’t reply because I’m so humbled that words can’t express my gratefulness. In this case, however, I’ll make an exception.
I grew up in the backyard of George Washington. There were no black people in my schools until High School and then there were only 3; two males and one female. I ran track with the two males and never thought of them as any different except that I was faster. But, I ran faster than anyone else and never put color into my perspective of people.
I left the Pentagon for a job in DC about 1977 and my supervisor was a black man. He was the most dignified and respectful man I have ever know. He saw my talent and got me positions doing work for the White House, DEA, the Smithsonian Institute and various other Government and civilian agencies.
I’ll never forget that kind, dignified, respectful and wonderful person. I’ve never been prejudiced or prejudged people due to what color they are.
Today, however, I’m incensed and infuriated at the progressive mandates for racial prejudice. It seems that they are so hell-bent on causing tensions based on color at any consequence.
I hope this message find you well and that you might reply.
Report Post »vanman4446
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 9:39pmDoesn’t this border on hate speech. Oh hell what was I thinking this is about white people. We don’t count only the blacks count. Jeez.
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 10:21pm‘…Since obama got on the throne, all that has been done in this country was to segregate the white from the black…’
Report Post »And who got him elected? Blacks and wannabe blacks.
Bluebonnet
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 10:45pmSick people, sick school.
Report Post »Stormy1948
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 11:03pmYou are so correct. All Obama has done, is to put more discord into the different races than anyone else has done before him( except the KKK). The fact that these ( I assume they are all college kids, that in itself explains a lot) kids are being used to make even more of this race retoric is so blatently racist itself! My ancestors came here from England, Scotland, Germany, Ireland in 1725.My family have fought in the Revolutionary War. The War of 1812, the Civil War (both sides), WWI, WWII, Koren, Viet Nam, The Iraq, Afghanistan Wars, and I am supposed to be ashamed that I am “white”? By all that is holy I will not! How many of these snot nosed kids can say that? They really piss me off. I have dear friends of all colors, and ethnicities, and they would just be horrified by this kind of shameless self entitled garbage as I am.. What a bunch of losers! I am just as proud of my different nationalities as anyone else, and I will never be ashamed of them. also my white family is so privilaged that they actually have to work 2 or 3 jobs to pay for their college classes. They even have 4.0 avg. But you don’t see them whining and complaning that “gee, we are white so we should just be grateful we can go to college, and have to pay, cause we are white and don’t get those grants or loans, or scollarships, we just have to take it and smile” or wait, we are white so lets go hide somewhere. Dear Lord.
Report Post »drenfroe
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 11:27pmClassic case for white guilt.
Report Post »ep8568
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 12:29amHi…. I’m white….. I like the rule of law……. Free Enterprise…….. and I do not wish to participate in tribalism !
Report Post »Unix
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 12:35amPublic – I lived in Kingston Jamaica, and that place was poor, it makes Detroit, Watts, Harlem look like kindergarten my friend. My parents were artists and made very little money, I was trapped there. So let me tell you something friend, I go the snot kicked out of me every day until I learned to fight back, and then it slowed down…then there was a civil war and I dodged bullets to get off that hell hole and came here, back to sanity! But I moved on, so should you!
Report Post »nomorpc4me
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 12:36amIt is difficult to call out a double standard when it benefits your side. As a “minority” I have always hated that everyone expects me to carry around my “cup of sorrow” and blame everything on everyone or everything for any bad thing that happens to me or “my people.“ These ”white people“ in the video above are only magnifying their ”whiteness” and further imprinting that I have supposedly been dealt a bad hand in life and I can’t make it in this world without thier patronizing display of public guilt. They really need to get out of their “white ego” and live life and let the rest of us work out our lives as set before us by Someone much higher than they can imagine.
Report Post »HappyStretchedThin
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 1:39am@Monk,
Report Post »Thanks for the kudos. I’m humbled and glad that sometimes my way of putting things makes sense to someone.
@Pencil
You keep insisting it’s still bad, it’s still bad, but you still haven’t engaged the one idea that can break you out of it, and it’s skewing all your examples.
It seems you have a hard time accepting the very existence of a Tiger Woods, a Herman Cain, a Condoleeza Rice, a Bill Cosby, a Colin Powell, etc. etc. etc.
Your view of America crumbles to pieces when you’re forced to look at positive examples, instead of dealing exclusively with averages (which ARE less favorable by race, but can’t be explained by race), and cherry-picked anecdotes. Besides the fact that motivation by guilt has never been a very convincing way to change behavior, you stubbornly refuse to note that if the averages you cite are lower for poverty or higher for prison rates, it is fully explained and predicted by behavior, while your race theory can’t explain my example people. Therefore my theory wins.
When you choose to act responsibly and use your freedom for good, for productivity, for serving others, you get paid! America is such a wonderful place of equal opportunity that nearly none of us fail to rise in class throughout our lifetimes.
In any case, you have offered zero solutions to all your insistent complaints. I maintain the solution is already in place-it’s what banished slavery, it’s what produces success for all races-it’s freedom and limited govt.
Dahveed
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 3:11amYou can’t reward only your tribe unless you separate it.
Report Post »Xyskalla
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 3:49amYou should be ashamed of yourself! How dare you be white!
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 7:38amHappyStretchedThin,
You seem a bit confused. There are roughly 8.8 million African Americans, and you are suggesting that the five examples you mention disprove my “race theory” (whatever you mean by that). You miss the point by a wide margin–there are certainly not every African American in this country is held down in poverty. Of course some are very successful (including our President), but that does not mean that there are not many still unfairly subject to the legacies of racism. While I admire your optimism, I encourage you to take a statistics class sometime.
Limited government did not end slavery. Limited government was the cry of slaveholders who wanted to ensure that the government would not take away their property. Similarly, limited government did not end segregation–many places in this country had to be forcibly desegregated, and many still are divided by race.
Report Post »Macman1138
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 7:40amI’m mostly white, with a trace of Cherokee. I pass for white, but consider myself an American above all.
Report Post »By the way, MLK was not the good man many of you think he was. I used to think so too…until I did some digging.
I didn’t like what I found.
Wolf
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 8:08am@ PubliusPencil… you ask, “…Can anyone deny that in the United States, white people have historically enjoyed a higher social and economic status due to inequalities in law and prevailing cultural prejudices? Is it possible in any way to dispute this claim?…”
Report Post »Two words: Affirmative Action. Answers the whole question for you. And all it’s done is get us to this point in our history.
HappyStretchedThin
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 9:01am@Publius,
Report Post »Glad I got your attention finally. It’s you who has missed the point however. And I recommend both remedial reading and history courses.
I didn’t say my examples DISPROVE your theory. Is said yours can’t ACCOUNT for them. That’s what theories do: they predict outcomes. Your theory finds something inescapable about race that puts one above the other that makes one exploit the other, but it can’t explain the success of some, only the suppression of the majority.
My theory is that it has nothing to do with race, but with behavior. It explains the failures AND the success of both black AND white (and any other race you care to identify), without requiring any massive leaps of faith in an arbitrary logic , therefore it’s a more powerful theory (Just what IS it about skin color that makes people automatically more or less successful? A downright metaphysical question if you believe it’s worth pursuing. I think it’s a waste of time, you don’t so your burden of explanation).
On history: the idea of liberty, of all men created equal, of equal rights did not begin in the 1960s. Without lmtd govt, govt becomes tyranny. Jim Crow and segregationist states were tyrannical already and were ABUSING the cry of lmtd govt, even though in practice they were trying to EXPAND govt to control what it shouldn’t. The true idea of freedom had to be fought for even in the 60s, but couldn’t have come about without the prep of the ideas of Washington, Jefferson, Madison, etc.
Independent4233
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 9:21amPubliusPencilman
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 4:05pm
“Typical Blaze! I argue that we are still dealing with disparities that are a result of a long history of segregation and discrimination.”
Seegation, racism, oppression and slavery have absolutely nothing to do with black inability to learn on the same level as other racial groups. And shouting your tired old cliches of racism and hate tells me unequivocally you can‘t refute my contentions because they’re without doubt totally accurate.
It seems the whole world knows that but you.
“Independent4233 all but confirms my point with a textbook racist argument that black fail because they are inherently stupid. ”
Sorry, but the facts ARE the facts. Just because they dont conform to your hare-brained idea of a utopian society doesn’t discred them one iota.
Report Post »HappyStretchedThin
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 9:56am@ Publius,
Report Post »p.s. I can’t go with you very far down the road of believing the Blaze is entirely populated with racists. I can’t even agree with you that the evidence of that is that there are plenty of reactions to your posts.
But I DO agree with you that Independent is a roiling, raving idiot.
There are a few cuckoos like on every site like this, but the vast majority of us are Martin Luther King acolytes who believe staunchly in the equal potential of all humankind.
I for one condemn the ignorance of people who claim intelligence is a property of race, because there’s not only no evidence for such a theory, but also because there’s an abundance of evidence to the contrary.
PubliusPencilman
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 10:32amHappyStretchedThin,
“I didn’t say my examples DISPROVE your theory. Is said yours can’t ACCOUNT for them. That’s what theories do: they predict outcomes. Your theory finds something inescapable about race that puts one above the other that makes one exploit the other, but it can’t explain the success of some, only the suppression of the majority.”
Sorry pal, but again you are confused. It was exactly the suppression of the majority that I am concerned about. I never pretended to have a theory that accounts for the entirely of 8.8 million African Americans. I don’t need to “account” for these individuals, because it is ludicrous to think that any socioeconomic theory would have absolutely no exceptions. You seem to be be confusing a social theory with a mechanical one that necessarily predicts that same outcome 100% of the time.
What you don’t seem to understand is that my argument is entirely based on behavior (I’m not sure at all how you missed that point). The difference is that your “theory” is that African Americans exist in this kind of vacuum in which each individual’s behavior is the only factor that contributes to success of failure. Doesn’t this seem incredibly naive and entirely inadequate to you?
Continued in next post…
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 10:42amMy argument deals entirely with behavior. I take into account the behavior of black individuals, along with the social and historical factors that influence that behavior. The big difference between your naive “theory” and my argument is that I acknowledge the behavior of others that a successful black person must necessarily interact with to be successful (most of these people would likely be white). Again, historical and cultural factors influence how these other individuals view any given black individual, and those views have a strong influence on the success or failure of that individual. What’s more, these views are applied without taking into account the behavior of that individual black person (meaning “prejudice”).
“White Privilege” is all about behavior–the assumption of whiteness as normative. It is a behavior that acts as an outside factor influencing the success of failure of American blacks. The whole things is that “White Privilege” is something the vast majority of us experience without recognizing it–it’s not a malicious behavior, and there is not reason to feel shame or guilt about it. It is, however, something you can only work to remedy when you are aware of it, which is exactly why this university is trying to raise awareness.
Report Post »Unix
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:30amPublic – IF your theory is true, then WHY is white unemployment (as a % of population) higher than minority male unemployment? If this is true then your theory is bunk, and this one fact you cannot escape. Go look the numbers up for yourself, it may just open your eyes to how you have been hood-winked by the left. I got my numbers off the govt website that tracks unemployment, so please do refute those numbers, if you dare. Be careful now, if you do, then you expose ‘the left’ as manipulators of the numbers as well. Good luck.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:51amUnix,
Where exactly are you getting those figures? This is from an article in Forbes from 2010, when unemployment reached its peak:
“What white Americans regard as a recession may feel more like a depression to certain minority groups in the U.S., according to a new report by the Economic Policy Institute, a non-profit think tank.
9.7% of American adults were unemployed at the end of 2009. But the percentage of whites who were unemployed at year’s end (8.1%) was well below the national average, while African-Americans and Hispanics saw rates of 15.5% and 12.4%, respectively.
Though the national unemployment rate for each group roughly doubled between the end of 2007, when the recession kicked off, and the end of 2009, there was noticeable rate disparity along racial lines in certain states, according to EPI analyst Kai Filion.”
I don’t think a anyone can accuse Forbes magazine of liberal propaganda. Now, unless you have other, better figures to back up your argument, you’ll have to concede your point.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:57amHappyStretchedThin,
It’s all fine and good to say that slavery and segregation were a perversion of “limited government” principles now, but that’s a whole lot of revisionism. I doubt that you would argue that limited government principles insist that every citizen should have full control of what to do with their property, right? Well, slaveholders would be the very first to acknowledge that their entire argument was based on rights to property. The same went for segregation, which insisted that property rights could be best preserved for both whites and blacks if they were deliberately kept separate. This argument is obviously fallacious, but it was the power of the “limited government” mantra that allowed this injustice to go one for so long.
To this day, the idea of “limited government” prevents us from addressing all kinds of problems, from discriminatory hiring practices to pay equality to the denial of basic rights to laborers.
Report Post »Unix
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 1:06pmPublic – you pull 2010 numbers to refute the current numbers, how disingenuous of you, look at the current US GOVT website for the numbers as of today, not a skewed Forbes magazine article. Look at the real data, not some journalists view with an agenda. While that may have been true in 2010, it is not true today. I rest my case, if you still won’t believe me, I’ve got nothing for ya, head on back to camp and bury your head in the sand.
Report Post »eric6161
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 2:39pmRepublicans came into being to free the slaves. Democrats formed the KKK to fight against the Republicans. The racist LBJ gave the black single woman money in hopes of destroying the black family and the Republican party in the name of ending poverty. We still have poverty but where the black man once was on the way up and out of poverty… LBJ, in the name of ‘War on Poverty’ erased the inroads the black man had made and helped to keep him in poverty. With the help of many self-seekers in the black community such as Jesse Jackson, they have turned many in the once industrious black culture into rednecks – dumb, lazy, and pre-occupied with sex.
Report Post »HappyStretchedThin
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 6:08pm@Pencil
Thanks for the engaging conversation. I get it, and am not confused. I’m just trying to get you to see beyond your own assumptions, and logical fallacies.
P says: “White Privilege” is all about behavior–the assumption of whiteness as normative.
Despite your protests, in your very sentence defining “white privilege” you demonstrate that it’s NOT behavior-based at all. You can’t avoid the very term “whiteness” in your defn, thereby closing the circular argument. My point doesn’t evacuate the history of real juridical impositions made by some govts over race, but instead contextualizes it as part of the past.
Report Post »There are real racists out there, for example, but everyone considers them kooks and they get no purchase whatsoever in govt. That reality puts the lie to the kind of it’s all stacked against minorities belief you hold all on its own.
You want to claim there’s something still structural out there that keeps blacks down, “cultural prejudices” in your words, but then you slip all over the place refusing to contextualize which cultures and which periods you’re discussing, then blame it all on American national institutional racism (all while claiming the concept of “white privilege” isn’t racist at all-which is ridiculous on its face). Stay focused on one context. Where are the racists today? What power do they hold? This “awareness raising” IS a guilt-trip, and is NOT innocently trying to help whites feel grateful for blessings.
HappyStretchedThin
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 6:26pm@Pencil
Report Post »And now a word about revisionism. You’re either projecting or ignorant of some of the basics.
Logically: you don’t go the the Chevy dealer to ask his opinion on Fords, so why should you believe a slaveholder when he claims Blacks are property.
Morally: Yes or no, are blacks people? If your answer is yes, then it doesn’t matter what the argument of a slaveholder is, it’s immoral for people to be property. Jim Crow/segregationist governors were also wrong to attempt to limit the freedom of blacks. Their own stated reasons are therefore moot.
Historically: The slaveholding South wanted to have its cake and eat it too, right from the beginning. The Framers wrote in the 3/5 compromise not to define individual blacks as less than a person, but because the South wanted to count all of them as people when it came to electoral college votes, but NOT as people when it came to everything else. In other words, thew always KNEW their law was unjust, therefore the ideas of liberty and lmtd govt were what REVERSED the unjust laws.
The idea of lmtd govt is not a mere mantra, it’s a requirement for liberty. It doesn’t currently prevent addressing inequities, it prevents govt from the mission creep of defining inequities down for political purposes.
The FAILURE of lmtd govt is what imposed Jim Crow laws, cuz govt has no right to enforce inequities. The FAILURE of lmtd govt is what drove segregation, cuz govt has no right to use skin color to determine education rights.
PubliusPencilman
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 6:29pmUnix,
Here is a table from the US Bureau of Labor Statistics including information on the unemployment rate as of May 2012:
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t02.htm
According to this table, as of May 2012, the unemployment rate was:
Whites: 7.4%
Blacks: 13.6%
So please, if you have better information or if you would like to contest this information, provide the link. Otherwise, it is clear that you have no idea what you are talking about.
Report Post »Nedarc
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 6:51pmYes we are privileged to be the target of every black and WHITE self hating liberal and to have statistics (look them up if you do not believe me) of having Black against White crime over four to one ….Nice privilege.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 7:06pmHappyStretchedThin,
When you say “contextualizing” something as in the past, you really mean “dismissing” it. Your naive assumption that no one who has any kind of power is a racist is just silly–the generation in power now grew up at a time when racism was still encoded in U.S. law. Which argument do you think makes the bigger leap: 1) that in only two generations since legal segregation, cultural attitudes and the legacy of wholesale repression of black populations continues to affect black social mobility, or 2) that the black unemployment rate is almost twice as high as the white rate because blacks just don’t want to work hard?
But, to go back to “White Privilege,” you keep asserting that this term is racist. How so? Please be clear about what you mean by racist, since this concept in no way assigns a specific quality to white people. As I said, it’s all about behavior, and the fact that you are subject to a different kind of behavior from others if you are white than if you are black.
Again, so we’re clear: “white privilege” is not an inherent quality of being racially “white.” It’s not an essential racial attribute. It’s a concept that explains how white people (because of the legal/historical construction of whiteness) can afford not to think about racial discrimination (as you insist on not doing) because they are not held back by it. There is nothing circular in this argument.
Report Post »wayner4162
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:26pmWhite men band together, stand together, survive together or kiss your …… goodbye.
These people are deluded, morons, I would like to see any one them sell there home, and buy one in an all black neighborhood to live there, hmmm, probably not right! I wonder why? Why is it that blacks come into white neighborhoods and buy homes and live, and not the other way around?? This is just one example of many as to why this crap from these fools is meaningless dribble! They are the suckers of the world and the black people will use them up, don’t they know why they pay so much in taxes already and will probably pay more and more…….
Report Post »Unix
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:39pmPencil – Bureau of Labor statistics – unemployment:
Black 13.6
White 7.4
I misread the chart, I must be getting old and need glasses. I am wrong on that piece, I’ll admit that much, as a %.
There a more unemployed white than black people (that is what I looked at), but that just goes along with the total population ratios, and was total numbers not %..
Even so, does the black man have less chance to get an education, or not become president of the USA, the answer is NO. Believe it or not, everyone has an equal chance here, if they choose to work hard, get an education and apply themselves, so your argument still falls flat, in that regard.
Report Post »RebelPatriot
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 11:45pmYou can not destroy the Republic if you don’t first divide and conquer.
All the progressive socialist have done is pit one group against the other for the last 3 and half years.
If they can divide and conquer then they will be successful in destroying the Republic.
We have to see through these actions and remain united for the Republic.
Report Post »DYNA
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 3:16am@PubliusPencilman
I just glanced over the debate that you have been having with several others about what constitutes racism or to what extent racism exists. To many details and to little time for me to follow it all.
But I would like to state that everyone will respond to what they like or don’t like. There are cultures that are more likable than others and while not all cultures are race based there are observable patterns that one race may have more problems than another. If the black race has more problems than the white race it should not be assumed that the white race caused it. I do not blame the black race for that portion of the white race that followed Stalin or Hitler or for that portion of the yellow race that followed Mao.
Just as whites are not raised to like people just because they are white, please do not expect white people to like blacks just because they are black. It all depends on what the individual is like. Does he exemplify virtue? Is he trustworthy? Is he of good character?
It is good to discriminate between good and evil. Those who see evil as good and good as evil seem to be many and they will not discern what is right in life. The good and bad are not equal and they cannot live as one. And this is NOT based on race/ the color of ones skin.
I am at peace with the Godly, regardless of their skin color.
Report Post »HappyStretchedThin
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 5:24amHow is admitting there was racial injustice and insisting we keep it in remembrance so as not to repeat the mistakes of the past “dismissing” anything?
Report Post »Dismissing history is what YOU’RE doing, because you deny that we’ve beaten the demon, and that the laws are now just as they should have been in the beginning. You judge today as if it WAS 2 generations ago. I have demonstrated that even the cultural attitudes you decry as racist are not prevalent, but marginalized. The generation in power now grew up when we removed the encoding of racism.
The argument that cultural attitudes affect black social mobility presupposes social mobility depends on race, and therefore can’t explain cause and effect. You‘ve set up a false dichotomy with assumptions you won’t even admit you’re making: IF you‘re trying to admit you think whites are racist and purposely keep blacks from succeeding you’re racist. It‘s a HUGE leap to say people’s color determines their opportunities. But if instead you’re trying to say the outcomes are different, then you’ve confused the argument, because the question is whether freedom of OPPORTUNITY exists. IF on the other hand you’re trying to corner me into saying I think blacks are just lazier than whites, I won’t bite, because my theory doesn’t require race to explain success or failure. Virtually all blacks AND whites who stay in school, get a job, get married before children, and finish school before marriage have ZERO blockage to their mobili
HappyStretchedThin
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 5:43am@Pub
Report Post »And now a lesson on words. Words mean things.
You want to claim your term “white privilege” is not racist because it’s not essentialist, and therefore doesn’t impute qualities to individuals arbitrarily.
Distinction without a difference. You’ve imputed an oppressive, selfish, greedy, intolerant ESSENCE to a GROUP based on RACE when you insert the word “white” in that term.
Either own up to it, or admit you’re wrong.
The nasty thing about the theory that people are people, and are responsible for the use of their freedom is that some people choose behaviors that get them consequences they don’t like-no matter what the opinion, attitude, or historical oppression perpetrated by the other group. Do the crime, do the time.
The great thing about that theory, though, is that a person who a SINGLE generation ago hated my guts for my religion, my ethnicity, my language, and my culture now smiles at me at the check-out counter and trades his goods for my greenbacks as if we had never been at war.
America’s a WONDERFUL place, and I’m sad that there are still people like you so committed to refusing delivery on the fact that the right ideas win out here, because they’re free to, because Americans choose them.
“White privilege” explains nothing. It’s a mass of unsubstantiated accusations and circular arguments. If whites aren’t racist, then whites don’t discriminate by race, then there’s no white privilege. Words mean things. Freedom trumps persecution compl
PubliusPencilman
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 8:36amHappyStretchedThin,
America is a great place, and it’s important that we continue to work and make it better.
And I agree–words mean something–this is why I implore you to read carefully and try to understand what I am saying.
“You’ve imputed an oppressive, selfish, greedy, intolerant ESSENCE to a GROUP based on RACE when you insert the word “white” in that term.”
No, I haven’t. There is no “intolerant essence” to any race. Let’s look at it this way: would you admit that white people in segregated areas during Jim Crow benefited from “white privilege,” regardless of whether they themselves were actually racists or supported segregation in any way? Now, if they benefited from “white privilege,“ would that mean that there was some ”intolerant essence” to their race? No. I’m merely saying that in often subtle ways, the advantages that those perceived as white during segregation survive today.
The fundamental disagreement between you and I here is that you think that racism no longer exists as a significant obstacle to African American social mobility, and I think it does. Your rather disingenuous move is to suggest that because I think racism didn’t simply disappear when it was no longer legally supported, that I must be a racist. But again, assuming that racism “disappeared” magically is a bit silly–prejudices against many other groups exist and remain without ever having been supported by law.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 8:47amOn the other hand, since the correct behavior for you inevitably leads to success, your argument dictates that blacks to a greater degree just don’t behave correctly. You claim you don’t use race to explain anything, but that just mean you ignore the very clear disparities that show up when race is brought into consideration. How can you claim we’ve “beat the demon” when you admit you are deliberately not taking into account evidence that racial disparities exist on a large scale? If you actually love this country as much as you claim, how is it you insist on turning a blind eye to injustices that need to be fixed?
I am sure I love this country as much as you do, which is why I want to work towards a future in which race means absolutely nothing–where the concept does not exist at all. Ignoring what still needs to be done doesn‘t somehow magically mean we’ve “beat the demon.”
Report Post »HappyStretchedThin
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 10:15am@Pub,
Report Post »Clarifications notwithstanding, you persist in skipping over my main argument: that you’re uselessly dwelling on equality of outcome differences (which I have never denied-of course some subtle vestiges of juridical privileges remain-but not to anywhere close to the degree you imply), when it’s the equality of opportunity that counts. But I can also take a stab at coming at it from another angle: Our basic disagreement is NOT what you say. It’s that YOU define privileges as STILL belonging to whites, when I call them AMERICAN privileges available to all. Since all juridical obstacles have been removed, institutional racism has been beaten. If there’s any remainder, it’s ever more being marginalized in the culture. Even on the Blaze (where libs claim the hard right racists go), when an idiot in Buffalo says something racist, it’s sharply put down and condemned.
As to your own disingenuous accusations: a disparity exists, yes, and I have stated that opportunity is equal, yes, so the conclusion is that blacks are inherently lazy? WHAT? Association is not causation, Mr. Fallacious. Just because a disparity exists, doesn’t mean privilege caused it. And IF it DOES turn out to be true that blacks are lazy in the aggregate, (which only DATA can prove, because it’s NOT an INHERENT quality), then guilt-tripping whites will have the opposite effect you intend: 1. focuses on wrong target, 2. leads to more laziness and entitlement rather than inspiring work.
PubliusPencilman
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 10:20amDyna,
“I do not blame the black race for that portion of the white race that followed Stalin or Hitler or for that portion of the yellow race that followed Mao.”
Umm… that’s a silly comparison. You are really suggesting that blacks had as much influence on the rise of Stalin as whites had in the oppression of blacks in America? You might want to rethink that a bit.
Yes, it would be nice if people were only judged as individuals, but that is still not true in many cases in this country. I totally agree with the sentiment, but to suggest that we are there now is naive and, in the end, harmful to our chances of actually getting there.
It is a benefit of “white privilege” that you have the luxury to say we can ignore race. However, if you are in a group in which unemployment is twice as high as it is for whites, I would argue that you don’t have the luxury of ignoring race as a potential factor.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:35amHappyStretchedThin,
The reason that you think that I have “skipped over” your main argument–that there is “equality of opportunity”–is simply that you have done absolutely nothing to support that argument other than simply declaring it true. In the same vein, I talk about outcomes because they are clear and quantifiable phenomena and not something that I have simply declared. You even concede that there are residual affects of legal racism (which is what I have been saying all along), but you merely “declare” that these effects are not significant. At every turn you have simply declared that racism is defeated, yet approaching the sum total of statistical and demographic evidence objectively there is no reason to make this assumption.
You also seem to think, quite counter-intuitively, that opportunity has no relationship to outcome. I am talking about opportunity as much as you. We know that racism (whether legal or cultural) has a real effect on opportunities available to African Americans. Those opportunities necessarily lead to disparities in outcomes among races. Those outcomes, again, are clear and quantifiable, while your argument about opportunity entirely relies on your assumption/assertion/declaration that everyone is afforded equality of opportunity–an assertion ignores the entire history of race relations in this country and that you have done nothing to support.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on June 23, 2012 at 11:52amSo, to rephrase:
My argument:
Premises–
1) There are clear quantifiable disparities in economic achievement between whites and blacks in America today.
2) Historically, opportunities for blacks in America have been extremely limited by legal and cultural prejudices that were encoded within the American legal system as late as the early 1970s.
Conclusion–
3) Cultural prejudices, along with the economic effects that remain from de jure segregation, continue to limit opportunities for African Americans and thus contribute to the disparity in outcomes.
Your argument:
Report Post »Premise–
1) Everyone has an equal opportunity to succeed (an assumption you have done nothing to support other than to point to the end of de jure segregation)
Conclusion–
1) None, because you don’t actually argue “for” anything. Even though you are positing a clear causal argument–good behavior is the cause of success–and yet you back away from the obvious logical conclusion to this argument–that bad behavior results in a lack of success. Instead, you accuse me of a fallacy because I AM actually making an argument about factors that contribute to disparate outcomes. You refuse to even defend your own argument.
HappyStretchedThin
Posted on June 24, 2012 at 8:31am@Pub
Report Post »…the TRUE formulation would be outcome disparities predict disparities in SEIZED opportunities.
Back to examples: I chose 5 (scroll up), precisely because the way they all rose beyond their beginning class was that, in their own testimonies, they refused to give any heed to the idea of white privilege keeping them down. To a conservative, adversity is indistinguishable from opportunity. It made them try harder, take bigger risks, & they earned bigger rewards because of it.
I cited facts & reasoning on social mobility, which in your worldview is stunted by virtue of race, which show that all races rise out of poverty equally under a given set of behaviors. Do you need it from another source? Fine: http://jacksonville.com/opinion/editorials/2012-01-27/story/three-rules-staying-out-poverty
http://www.brookings.edu/research/papers/2003/09/childrenfamilies-haskins
This directly disproves your assumptions, because “white privilege” simply is NOT a factor for anyone who chooses to conform to the rules for success.
And it’s only by an extraordinary feat of willful historical amnesia that you can continue to assert by implication that all Americans everywhere were horribly & oppressively racist until 1970 when magically they reversed course, & that white people 2 generations afterward deserve a retroactive burden of guilt, & govt imposition of reversed inequities.
Cont…
HappyStretchedThin
Posted on June 24, 2012 at 8:32am@Pub
Report Post »Of COURSE means constrain opportunities, but when even LIMITED opportunities are seized, outcomes are positive, blacks and whites alike move up in social brackets. Disparity in outcomes disappears for all races regardless of historical prejudices (or lack thereof) WHEN opportunities are seized.
Your “contributing factors” are left with no basis, and your argument falls flat and is left with forgetting what I’ve proven, and with accusing me of the illogic you yourself purvey.
If you want whites to be more grateful for the opportunities America’s freedom and equality have offered them earlier and with less struggle than blacks, and share more, and promote even more freedom and equality, don’t guilt-trip: send them to church! They’ll learn the ideas most of them already have: that all of us are God’s children, that He’s no respecter of persons, that we must love our fellow beings as ourselves, that generosity is rewarded on earth AND in heaven, that there is justice in heaven even if temporary unfairness persists in mortality, and that evil will be punished. THOSE are the ideas that killed slavery, won a civil war, and made MLK triumphant. Individual hearts can still make progress, but guilt-trips are counter-productive anyway-the church approach is better.
“Whiteness” isn‘t what’s normative, it’s Americanness-and that’s a good thing! When you finally believe that, you’ll join me and MLK in a colorless society of success.
PubliusPencilman
Posted on June 24, 2012 at 9:42am“This directly disproves your assumptions, because “white privilege” simply is NOT a factor for anyone who chooses to conform to the rules for success.”
Hold up there Buckaroo. You have a bit of a logic problem–saying that you need a full-time job to avoid poverty (a pretty clear-cut point) does nothing to disprove the influence on the legacies of racism on socio-economic status. Also, I never said that “all Americans everywhere were horribly & oppressively racist.” Now, in this conversation I have done my best to properly represent your views as I argue against them–you could do me the same courtesy.
You see, the problem with the Brookings institution “rules” is that, for example, in a group in which 13.6% percent unemployment, its a bit pointless to say that “if you just get a full time job, you’ll be fine.” Factors too influence how many African Americans are able to finish high school, particularly the neglect of inner-city “black” schools and the rerouting of resources to predominately white or suburban schools.
Sure–if everyone could follow these rules, we would all be in the middle class. Why not? But the logic here is akin to saying that the source of unemployment is people not having jobs.
Report Post »Raven88
Posted on June 24, 2012 at 3:54pmMy white sons and all of their many white friends have ALL been followed by security at the mall, through stores, etc. This happened when they were teens, minding their own business and trying to shop. My boys are now adults making good money. There are certain stores that they will not shop at to this day because they are still angry from being “profiled”. (For being white? For being young? For being male?) Oh, and by the way…my boys and all of their white friends have also been hassled and some even assaulted by police officers (Cleveland, Ohio and suburbs) for supposed “offenses”. So black people, get over it. We live in a police state and we need to unite together, Black, Hispanic, White, young and old, male and female. As long as we are picking at each other “the man” wins.
Report Post »coachsteve
Posted on June 25, 2012 at 9:22amI think EVERY “white” person should immediately transfer to another college. THEN see what happens. I wonder if their “white guilt” stems from an even deeper guilt: the privileged life of a tenured professor who gets 100K / year for sitting around and pontificating while having TA’s grade papers for half the hours per year a construction worker works. I know of this “white guilt” first hand, the best friend of a girl I dated for a year majored in “African Studies”, and she was white as snow. Even discussions about where we were all going to eat ended up about reparations.
Report Post »BlessedGirls2
Posted on June 27, 2012 at 11:56pmNo one wants to eradicate the white race..stop feeling sorry for yourself. The world has lots of peoples and you are just a group among the rest of us. No one thinks about you all day everyday so stop crying in your beer. You are just not that important anymore.
Report Post »PATRIOTINTN
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:05amI moved to Arizona in the mid-70′s and was looking for work. It was back in the days before you could buy your own phone and an employee from the phone company came to install my phone. I asked about the chances of getting on at the phone company and was told “You’re not Black, Indian, Mexican, or a Woman, you don’t stand a chance.” Because I am a white male, I was denied even the opportunity to prove myself.
Yeah, it’s not fair being a white male. We’re the lowest on the totem pole, the bottom of the barrel and the last ‘group’ of people to be considered in this affirmative action world. As long as there are quotas and ‘racial diversity’ is the goal instead of getting the best people, this will continue. I say get the best person for the job, regardless of color. If you have the top scores and your personality fits in with the rest of the employees, you get the job. If all you have to offer is diversity of race or gender, why should you get the job?
I‘d like to see a basketball team or a baseball team be forced to include people that just aren’t very good at their sport in order to achieve some sort of ‘ability diversity’ and be forced to play them against other teams. What would that do to the revenues? Who wants to watch mediocre players fumble and bumble their way around the sporting arena?
Report Post »yougottabekidding
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:50amHow about being say a firefighter that has to listen to orders that put your life in the hands of their leader and have a chief that was promoted not because they knew how to fight a fire or where to put personel, but because there were not enough of a certain color in that rank. Asking if the truck should go on the “A” side is racist.
Report Post »That puts my life and every person of that color also in jeopardy, but that is common sense and it does not work.
The dumbing down of America!
Or how about a teacher teaching social studies that says you can be arrested for talking about the president. Excellent education, the dumbing down of America. A teacher too stupid to teach what she has been, educated on??????
obfuscatenot
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 8:00amNothings changed. My 20 year old son got an interview with a big city municipal sewer dept. for a summer job. Thought it would be a fascinating- come to find out he got the interview based on his name-sounds Hispanic, and is actually Norwegian -he’s got blue eyes, (maybe he should get some brown contacts, it’d be a fun experiment anyway). The interview was barely cursory, which he thought was odd. I am one hundred percent certain they had women and minority quotas. Good grades in engineering school didn’t outweigh the color of his skin or ones gender. Of course, cannot be “proven” but just Wow. Cannot believe in the era of ‘hope and change’ and “the great uniter” the outright discrimination. White men ARE the bottom of the barrel.
Report Post »kma
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 9:53amYou know it’s funny that you say white males are the bottom of the barrel. I work for a large grocery store chain, where it‘s common knowledge that if you’re white chances are, you will never see a promotion. They have to fill a “quota” of how many minorities are in each position before white people can get a shot. Now I’m all for diversity, and equal opportunity, but this has led to some very undeserving people being in a leadership postion. This policy exceeds the normal affirmitive action laws. This is a policy that the company itself implemented after being sued for alledgedly being race and gender bias.
Report Post »normalmom
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 2:26pmMy husband has been looking for a better job, I have thought about testing a theory send two copies of his resume one saying he is a “minority” and one normal one of who he is. Then when wait to see which resume person gets called. Of course you can’t do that it is fraud, but it would be an interesting test.
Report Post »Independent4233
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 3:52pmEvery racial group that immigrates to the US outperforms blacks…as a group…. in almost every endeavor even though they are mostly dirt poor when they arrive, with many of them unble to speak the language.
For blacks to still be using slavery as an excuse for failure tells us unequivocally that they need someone to blame for their inability to compete.
No other group really needs AA, because they seem to be doing o.k. on their own. But blacks not only need AA in entry, grading and certification, for higher education, they need it to get jobs, because nobody wants to hire an AA gimmie who has a degee or diploma but still can’t effectively read, write or do math.
Report Post »BlessedGirls2
Posted on June 28, 2012 at 12:01amIf you network with your buddies I bet you they can get you in…(the good old boys network still exist)
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:05amObama got everything handed to him because he was half Black, not because he was half white……so I would say its the opposite………
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 11:34amDon’t forget that woman of colour Fauxcahontas Warren.
Report Post »BlessedGirls2
Posted on June 28, 2012 at 12:04amHe was given opportunites that he took advantage of and because he was and is intelligent he progressed to where he is today…key word here is Opportunity ! given an opportunity ! got it?
Report Post »Cadcamtrainer
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:04amThis country I’d done…… Stick a fork on it. I see the same happening here as it did in S Africa…..
Report Post »Cleats4Feets
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:40amMy wife is South African and you would not believe the stories she has told me about he home Country. The problem with America is when the Dogs do take over there is no where left to run. Most White South Africans go to England, Australia, New Zeland or Canada. They should have fought to save there country instead they handed it over to the Dogs. What will we do?
Report Post »OTBoxer
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 3:58pmIt doesn’t have to be done because the instructions on how to make it, South Africa, or any other place for that matter, pol-free are available in the book Democracy-The God That Failed. Spread the word all over and we will be just fine!
Report Post »mrykyl
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:03amanything to fan the hate of whites and for attempting to increase ‘white guilt’ is racist. Census reports indicate that in a few years we will no longer be the majority. If all whites are accused of being in the privileged class and the cause of the misery of the minorities, then the hatred that this effort will create will definitely be displayed against the whites when we are in the minority…and it will be justified by productions such as this.
Report Post »SAMADI-SOUL-CRUSHER
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:03amI live in Minn and the level of white guilt is disgusting. Its been going on for years.
Report Post »When I was a kid . White kids got suspension for fighting and black kids didn’t!
Because they were at risk of dropping out .
About 30 years ago the political class here was wringing their hands over the lack of minorities in the
state .They worked hard at spending tax dollars to recruit minorities to come to Minn.
Apparently we needed minorities so we could help them and whip ourselves for our inherit racism!
Quiata
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:36amRacism is often more subtle, insidious, and back-handed:
Lowered standards and expectations.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 12:10pmRacism is fine and dandy .. as long as it is against a white person .. especially a male .. this is cr*p .. all other races see is color .. personally I don’t give a D .. but I am tired of being lied about.
Report Post »snoopy
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 3:30pm@Samadi
Report Post »I live in the land of 10,000 liberals also. I was not shocked to see this coming from the U of M Duluth! When I graduated from highschool some 30 years ago, we had a class of 800. We had one young black man in our senior class….He was our class president!!!!!!!! What how can that be? Can’t wait till my husband retires so we can move to a decent state that does not tax the hell out of the few who still do pay personal and corporate taxes. DO NOT TRY TO RUN A BUSINESS IN MN.
eric6161
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 3:05pmWhen I went to high school they were just starting to bus. My football coach told his players that the following semester we were going to have black kids join our school. He then told us that some of them might not shave but that didn’t mean we could let ourselves go… he still expected us to come to school looking neat. He also told us that they might not be able to read very well and we were not to laugh at them.
Report Post »We lived in a white culture where you went to school, worked hard, played hard, and went home to chores, studying, and bed. There was a mighty clash between us and the new students who we accepted as just other kids who were here to do what students do… study and work hard. Within two years, a formerly white school in an upscale area of the city was now all black and the kids who came to work hard were all going to the private schools that had opened. Rednecks historically have been lazy, stupid, and pre-occupied with sex and they come in many different flavors. I happened to find out that black people can be just as redneck as white people can be.
OneTermPresident
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:02amIf you look around at the other races (non-white) and how they conduct themselves around the world today, would the world still exist if there were no whites? Is that racist or factual?
Report Post »Seth Patriot
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 8:07amYou beat me to this comment oneterm. Right on.
Report Post »zorro
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 10:17amThat’s not only racist, it’s extremely ignorant and outright stupid.
If all whites were as stupid and ignorant as you, I imagine the world would have ended centuries ago.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 11:32amThe world would exist if whites never existed, but there would with out a doubt be a much lower standard of living world wide. And we would most certainly the steam age and beyond would not have happened yet. We would still look a lot like Africa, or South America and a lot less like our current modern society.
Report Post »stogieguy7
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 11:36amZorro: Prove it. Current affairs would indicate that you’re are allowing your PC dogma to prevent you from seeing the truth.
Most any country where people want to be is majority white or was historically so. As for the hellholes, almost none are. The only exceptions to that would seem to be Japan/S. Korea/Hong Kong/Singapore on the good site and Bosnia and the Caucasus on the bad side. Each has an issue with Islam and the various little countries in the Caucasus are as much Asian as “white”.
Report Post »I support God's Israel!
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 3:47pmzorro:
Report Post »Jealous much? I DO BELIEVE THAT 75% OF THE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD AGREE WITH OneTermPresident. Sorry, but YOU are in the minority – NO PUN INTENDED.
anomnomnommm
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 3:51pmThis group of comments is truly sickening. Anyone with non-white friends or family would know that there different types of people of all races, some of which are more or less able to help progress (excuse the term for context, please) society.
Report Post »Lord_Frostwind
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 4:56pmI do disagree with the premise of this thread of thought, it wasn’t race that contributed to the state of affairs around the world, it was ignorance. Take the old Europeans colonies in Africa, after they achieved their freedom, the people listened to a bunch of racial and anti-colonial demagogues and effectively banished the people who were in charge of infrastructure and food production for their roles in the old governments, then put in their friends who had no idea how to run those systems. Throw in the inevitably corrupt revolutionary regimes, and the nations fell into the wonderful visions of hell we know today.
White, Black, or whatever; racepimps always result in the same stupidity being repeated over and over again. Anyone who believes that they deserve something because of their race or creed without doing anything to work for it is a sorry excuse for a human being.
Report Post »Calimann83
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:25pmI am sorry but that is actually pretty raciest. there is absolutely nothing to prove or disprove that theory because it is so abstract. I will point out that it was China that was century’s ahead of Europe technologically for some time. in fact it was not until Europe starting trading with China that living conditions in Europe started to improve.
I dont mind being Anti-PC, but do not be an idiot. you are being no better then the guys in the video.
Report Post »Obama_Sham
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:02amI thought Affirmative Action was supposed to get rid of the “unfair white advantage”?!? Ahhh yes… Just another FAILED government program, at least according to these clowns…
Report Post »blanco5
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:24amaffirmative “black-tion”
Report Post »Paleo Archer
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:01amWhatever…LOL
Report Post »nostromo
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:00amHow do they explain Asian privilege since Asians out score European Americans by every academic measure and are now filling up universities out of proportion to their demographic numbers? Seems to me that Asians get better treatment and have a better chance. I mean, what’s actual achievement have to do with anything?
Report Post »fenyxofshadows
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 12:29amThey aren’t privledged. Almost every Asian I know works extremely hard and both gets what they deserve and deserves what they get. Most of my friends are Asians, and it honestly matters very little. The universities may give them extras because they are Asian, but they accept it because it is what they get. Their families can’t pay for them to get into a random liberal college. I am White and male and in the same exact situation. Because of my own hard work, I have also gotten plenty of grants and scholarships for school.
I went to what is the most diverse school in Nevada, they are ranked #1 in Nevada for academics for tests such as AP, IB, SAT, ACT, and normal grades, and are ranked around #170 in the nation. This is a school where Latinos are the main racial group at ~50%, Whites are at ~25%, and Asians and Blacks are each at ~10%. I didn’t feel out of place, “privledged” or anything else. I felt simply like a student wishing for an education. It was competitive because the school didn’t care about color or affirmative action, it is in a poor neighborhood and they cared about the students’ education. As a result, people are pushing down the doors to get to the IB magnet program, making the school madly competitive compared to other schools in the same area, in rich neighborhoods too.
It is actual achievement that matters when they wish for actual achievement to matter. It is not when liberals get in the way and make it irrelevant.
Report Post »HowardSternIsABigot
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 6:57amJust where are the great black or brown cultures that dont discriminate, treat everyone as equals, provides wealth and economic success to its people? lets make it easier, where are the black cultures that feed themselves? Which black culture built the first of anything? where is the booming black indutry that clothes and feeds its people? where is the black society that is politically so advanced everyone is happy and properous? lets make it easier..where is there a black population of any size at all that is , self sufficient, industrious, and most important, nonracist? Easier, where is the black community whites can go in at night safely?
Report Post »Give Rodney another chance.
Calimann83
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:29pmWell if you are a liberal you are supposed to understand that EVERY country and race is a utopia of cultural understanding EXCEPT White America which is this festering pit of racism, hate, discrimination, and of course opportunity for only white males.
Report Post »ScottyK7
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 6:54amI don’t get it. I’ve lived in Minnesota for a few years several years ago. Beautiful countryside, love the lakes. But what makes the people up there so freakin’ liberal?
But on the flip side they have given us Michelle Bachman, so it’s not totally a lost cause!
Report Post »MRMANN
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 6:50amU of M @ Duluth–never will I become a self-hating white, for I believe hatred based on race is racism, and never will I ever feel guilty because I am a white.
Report Post »BlessedGirls2
Posted on June 28, 2012 at 12:23amHow right you are ! These people need to get out more and see the rest of this country..Swimming pools are not a big privilege…My kids have never lived in a house without one and we are all black. We educated ourselves without grants and loans and etc. Now my kids do not qualify for grants and whatever else people believe all black folks are receiving or trying to get or think they deserve. Our parents were raised for the most part with very little so we know “how to” survive in all situations. If everyone is offered the same opportunities I think we will all do well…because actually we all need each other…I need to know what you think and believe it or not you need to hear what I am thinking.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 6:48amYou see how their game is played, you give them what they want, and it goes to the next level…..it’s never gonna be enough, never……the left will always find fault with America, and it’s their job to come to the rescue………it always seems to involve getting their hands on tax dollars…..
Report Post »Molaki
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 6:45amI suspect Mr. Wise is a “self-hating“ white man who failed at his original career objective and blames ”the man” for his incompetence. He certainly can’t blame himself, he was raised to believe he is special. Since he is a failure, he must now savage those who he feels kept him down and run them into the ground. It is doubly unfortunate that we have similarly situated people running our alleged institutions of higher learning. The university administration in this case should be fired and never again allowed to work at either a public or private university….these people are racists, plain and simple and should be shunned.
Report Post »Quiata
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:24am@MOLAKI Mr. “Un-Fair” is also Mr. “Un-Wise”, whose own facially-inked motto should be “It‘s hard to see your own racism when you’re stupid.”
Tim Un-Wise and his self-congratulatory brethren interpret self-flagellation (based on a distorted, faulty sense of reality) as a sign of higher thinking and intelligence. He receives attention and accolades from leftist promulgators who intend to twist gentle young minds into self-loathing drones.
Report Post »TruthHurtsBad
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 2:44pmTimmy Wise isn’t white, he’s a jew.
Many jewish intellectuals have called for the genocide of our people. See Noel Ignatiev and Susan Rosenblatt, both have called for the complete eradication of our race.
Report Post »SouthP
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 6:45amSo if Lendley Black and his cohorts think White Privilege is going on, shouldn’t they all step down from their positions and give them to someone else of another race? This is an excerpt from the article back in 2010 when Black was named Chancellor from the UMN website:
““Dr. Black’s candidacy for this position received strong support from the Duluth and University communities,” Bruininks said. “His demonstrated leadership ability, strong administrative and academic credentials and experience and commitment to communication, collaboration and consensus building made him the top candidate for this position. I strongly believe he has the qualifications and leadership style to drive the unique academic needs of the campus.”
.. but I thought he only got the job through white privilege?
Report Post »js1964
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 6:44amOh please stop. We can say works like ******, we get pushed down on hiring lists, we cannot walk into some neighborhoods. Stop it. The tables have turned.
Report Post »narcan1
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 6:42amAs Mr T would say I pity the fools that go to this collage
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:00amI just love the total ignorance of the last video. This guy is completely clueless!
Report Post »Love the part where he says that blacks are racially profiled at convienence stores. Black man wearing a black hoodie……humm, why would I profile him. I mean.,….everyone is just alike, right?
dpselfe
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 6:42amImagine if those were photos of Black, Hispanic, Arab, Indian, or East Asian people. Racism is racism regardless of the origin.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 6:39amUseless idiots.
Report Post »123456beatriz
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:40amHey! USELESS Idiots! FROM THE LEFT. I AM LATINA AND WHITE! SO WHAT!. I am PROUD TO BE WHITE! SO WHAT!. White!! MEANS CRYSTAL CLEAR. SO WHAT!
Report Post »ricckky
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 6:39amWhere do these pseudo intellectuals come from? Is it an insecurity that they need to be noticed or just plain radicalism? Our young minds are being destroyed by these kooks. God help us—The healing will begin in Nov. when the liar is voted out of office!!!!
Report Post »MikeNelson
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 6:38amBottom line: People of color around the world are breaking down our border walls (figuratively) to become a part of “White Privelege.” I don’t believe that Tanganyika faces the same problem.
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 6:46amThis is infuriating!
Report Post »I don’t remember being given an unfair advantage when I worked for the phone company due to my “whiteness.”
In fact, I was discriminated against in favor of less qualified blacks to satisfy Ma Bells’ desire to meet Affirmitive Action quotas. .
rambosharley
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:10am@DECENDANTOF56
I too have been looked over for a promotion for a less qualified affirmative action recipient.
I am so sick and tired of the word…..FAIR……fair this, fair that….get the he!! over it. LIFE IS NOT F A I R!
It doesn’t matter what your skin color is Life is a biotch, then you die!
Report Post »DILLIGAF-26
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 6:38amDoes higher education really mean“higher” education? I keep thinking of Pink Floyd “The Wall” where the kids go into the machine normal and come out all F’d up.
On the campus…other students probably don’t even know about this campaign/club. Just another “glee” club that no-one pays attention to…
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 8:23amExcellent point. I was hearing the Wall in my head as I watched those videos above.
Report Post »johnnycatt
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 6:37amI see none of these “white folks” have given up their job to a black man… I see none of these fsir-skinned peolpe have traded their homes with a mexican and moved into the bario. I see none of them have given up ther Prius for a hooptie with 26″ rims…
HYPOCRITES
Report Post »bbg1123
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:41amJohnny, I see you want the white folks to GIVE you a home, or a job, or the whole bario … why don’t you get off your ass and earn what you want !!
Report Post »PATRIOTMAMA
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 10:42amWould you ask a black man to give up their home or is just the white man that has to give up his home to a black man or someone from the bario? HOW IS THAT not racially discriminating now against white people. Got news for your there are wealthy hispanics and blacks in this country. Look at Oprah and Eva Longoria. Racism is wrong!!!! Including when it’s directed at white people!!! Practice what is preached if MLK was right then he’s right. Judge a man by the content of his character NOT the color of his skin!!!! HYPOCRITES yourself!!!!!
Report Post »tothepoint
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 1:19pmSo, let’s get this straight – “It’s ok to be racist against whites, by all people
BUT, people of color get special treatment?”
Nonsense. Regardless of your race, we owe you nothing.
Everyone should get a job and earn it like those of us who do that.
Everyone should top expecting everyone to pay your bills and buy you what you want.
This is a typical lefty viewpoint.
Oh by the way, the Democrats started the K K K to chase down blacks and Republicans.
The Democrat Margaret Sanger started Planned Parenthood because she and other Democrats believed people of darker skin were inferior. She used Planned Parenthood to stop people of color from having so many of what she believed to be “inferior” children.
As for the rest of us who had nothing to do with any of that – We say to you people of color – stop persecuting us and stop your racism. We are on to you.
Report Post »johnnycatt
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 7:29pmumm.. DUDE, I am an “American” who’s skin is “pale” or “fair” or “light” or whatever you want to call it…
I’m bashing the people who made the videos, etc becasue THEY haven’t found a black/red/yellow/purple person to give their home/job/car to… I Paid for my own college, made my own way in life… I have a great job that I am really good at.. I have a sweet Victorian home and two pretty nice rides in the driveway.. I don‘t feel guilty for anyone who doesn’t have what I have.. I just work 10-12 hours a day to have them!! I’m not giving up anything to anyone without a fight…
all I’m saying is that the peolpe in this campaign need to give up everything THEY have to whoever it is has been “wronged.” I’ve never wronged anyone on the basis of their skin color… so I don’t owe anyone anything!
Report Post »willban1
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 12:27amJOHNNYCAT- No need to give up a job. Governmental racism has taken care of that. It’s called Affirmative Action, it’s called admission quotas. I don’t recall ANY federal law that requires I be given any preference in employment or education because I am caucasian. Only you poor put-upon minorities get that.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 6:35amI guess… if one is Against the White (Caucasion) Race… It is NOT RACIST!
Report Post »WARRIORSCROWN
Posted on June 21, 2012 at 12:48pmExactly, I‘m so privileged that when I get discriminated against because of my white skin color it’s not called racism. Oh and to all you liberals of any color out there, try being white and disabled …see how far your “whiteness” will get you then! MLK would be ashamed at how little we’ve really learned.
Report Post »chicago76
Posted on June 22, 2012 at 2:53pmLet’s not forget, a far out of proportion number of the government workers are black. Hmmm, why is that? Oh, I know, our government actively discriminates against everyone who is not black. It is in the laws. We are ruled by a black minority that actively enforces laws against the rest of America. Why do you think so much money is wasted? Why the government actively assist and did not care if hundreds, maybe thousands of Mexicans were killed in Fast and Furious? And then the government made a big deal out of a thug like Treyvon. Can’t have those whiteys or Mexicans getting uppity. Same with the michigan militia and other militias, buncha red neck crackers getting uppity. As for illegals, they are good slave labor.
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