Now CNN Wonders: Would Jesus Occupy Wall Street?
- Posted on October 26, 2011 at 2:59pm by
Billy Hallowell
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Better late than never, right? Earlier today, CNN finally asked the same question the Blaze posed earlier this month: Would Jesus Christ occupy Wall Street?
On “CNN Newsroom,” Contributor Carol Costello asked how Jesus would feel about the Occupiers, then launched into a brief analysis.
She said that the question — whether Christ would occupy the financial district — is an interesting one, and went on to make a number of comments about Jesus and the Catholic Church. The Daily Caller has more:
Costello cited a Sydney Morning Herald article in which a Vatican official said people should evaluate whether business “is not leading to our welfare, to our good.” Costello said the answer could be “yes.”
“Occupy Oakland protesters hurled paint at riot police, [and] riot police hurled tear gas,” she said. “Jesus here? Some argue yes, and the Vatican seems to be backing them up. The Sydney Morning Herald reports a Vatican official says the Wall Street protests are justified. Pope Benedict himself has called for overhauling global financial rules because the gap between rich and poor is so wide.”
These comments will likely frustrate some Catholics, who have attempted to provide a frame of reference for a recent note that came from the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace, an arm of the Vatican.
The proposals held within the note, viewed by some as calls for a global financial overhaul and a pseudo-endorsement of the Occupy movement, have created a great deal of controversy. The Washington Post has an excellent breakdown of the debate that’s going on among Catholics:
Many conservative Catholics writers, who often defend the Vatican against critique, have suggested that the council either lacks the authority to compel Catholics to support it, or that the media is misrepresenting the full vision of the document. Meanwhile, liberal Catholics who tend to emphasize the church’s teachings on social justice are heralding the document as proof of the church’s solidarity with global economic protests and those who are suffering during this time of economic downturn.
It should be noted that these proposals did not come from Pope Benedict himself. No one knows whether he was even aware of the contents of the note before it was released.
In terms of answering whether Jesus would have been an Occupy Wall Street supporter, Costello left it up in the air:
“Jesus did repudiate the desire for personal wealth. He did advocate for care of the poor and for the powerless. But Jesus also believed in community — people helping out others, not government per se. So would Jesus walk alongside these protesters?”
Watch her comments, below:
(H/T: The Daily Caller)
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Comments (232)
mikenleeds
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:43pmno he would nt . he d tell them to get off there lazy azzes and get a job and help out the real poor , not a bunch of lazy spoils liberal tree hugging brats
Report Post »pavepaws
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 4:02pmI’m sure they will get the chance to ask when their time comes. Just before the long slide.
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 4:15pm.
Report Post »Yes he would occupy, and HEAL the Sick and Feeble Minded. He might be a while taking care of the Feeble Minded, so hold your requests to a minimum for the next few days………..
@leftfighter
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 4:33pmIsn’t it interesting how the Left only evokes Jesus when they think His message suits their purposes?
Nevermind that he’s be entirely against hooking up under a tarp, the drug use, the rape, the calls for violence, the anti-semitism, hatred of anyone for any reason to include their finances. If memory serves, Jesus didn’t hate Joseph of Arimathea. Just sayin’.
It‘s almost like they’re using Jesus as a tool. Huh.
Report Post »HermanK
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 4:35pmJesus also said, in reference to Caesar’s inscription on the penny, “Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s and unto God that which is God’s”. It is the last part of this verse which these liberals find so distasteful. Maybe that is why this verse is not quoted by them when asking “What would Jesus do?”
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 4:54pmNow see people have the fruit they are going to have unless they be born again. And the light Jesus represents will sooner than you think come back around. That’s the part in Revelation whereby fire comes down from Heaven to devour Gog and Magog. That is also the thing which is unto a burning mountain cast into the sea. Moreover depending on the fruit people will determine whether they are destroyed or are saved.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 5:02pmAnd Mary said, “he has brought down the mighty from their thrones and exalted those of humble estate; he has filled the hungry with good things, and the rich he has sent away empty.” Luke 1:52
Report Post »Drives Like Jehu
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 5:06pmThis reminds me of when the hippies in the 60′s tried to use Jesus to excuse their propensity to long hair and sandals and pacifism while disregarding His message.
Acts 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
God does NOT respect one person more than another; he does not value the poor over the rich, the sick over the healthy, the old over the young, the brown over the white, the handsome over the ugly,…(or visa-versa). God respects a person only as regarding their position with respect to Christ.
Report Post »ICanComment
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 5:19pmWhen I recall the various accounts of Christ interacting with ordinary people (the woman at the well, Zacchaeus the tax collector… the list goes on), one common theme stands out: He rarely reacted even remotely close to the way that people expected. He loved those whom society rejected or loathed, but He didn’t always love them in the modern, pluralistic, relativistic, “tolerant” way. To elaborate, no doubt He loved them more genuinely than any ordinary human could, but he also spoke plainly with “tough love,” not tolerating their sin. (I say this as a sinner, of course) His interaction with the woman at the well shows that He is willing to love and interact with those whom others reject or avoid, but He also openly disapproved of her adultery. He didn’t judge a different adulteress who was about to be stoned, but he saved her from the stoning by pointing out the sin of everyone there, including the adulteress herself.
To predict whether He would be present at the protest is difficult. To predict how He would interact with those there is far more difficult. He would surprise us all and whatever He said and would be correct and righteous. We’d be in awe, and if the trend in the New Testament is continued, many would also hate Him for what he’d say, true as it may be. No doubt, He has plenty to say about everything. God is not neutral – be careful in predicting anything about Him that is not clearly stated in the Scriptures.
Okay, my rambling is over.
Report Post »Amos37
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 5:23pmThe only way you could even know is to go there and look for him. whenever two or more gather in my name, i stand in the midst.
Report Post »rangerp
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 5:44pm@jzs
“And Mary said, “he has brought down the mighty from their thrones and exalted those of humble estate; he has filled the hungry with good things, and the rich he has sent away empty.” Luke 1:52″
JZS – define poor? Do you see the majority of those doing the wallstreet deal as the poor? If so, your definition of poor is not the same as mine. I have been around the world a bit, and have seen the poor. The people portesting on walstreet are not poor. The hollywood crowd is not poor. Michael Moore is not poor, George Soros is not poor, the MSM voices are not poor.
We have very little “poor” in America. We have a whole lot of lazy though. We have 46 million people on foodstamps, then we complain because we have illegal mexicans here diong the work our lazy refuse to do.
How many Americans on welfare drive a nice car, have a big screen TV, wear fancy gold chains, have the latest Nike shoes?
The poorest people in America are also the fatest.
the poor you are reading about in the Bible are poor. they do not have gov housing, food stamps, big screen TVs…..
The Bible is not the all you can eat buffet where you pick what you like and leave what you do not. Start applying Bible to the people protesting on walstreet in regards to their homosexuality, open sex, drugs, laziness……
2 Thessalonians 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
Report Post »jblaze
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 5:51pmjzs
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 5:02pm
And Mary said, “he has brought down the mighty from their thrones and exalted those of humble estate; he has filled the hungry with good things, and the rich he has sent away empty.” Luke 1:52
jzs
Report Post »Mary was speaking of God or the Word, not of Jesus the man not yet born. God works and Jesus works they are both richer than any of us can comprehend. God does not despise riches. He does however despise the lazy, proud, arrogant, liars, thieves and those who twist his Word into something to suit your own agenda. He is looking at the heart of man not what he has in the bank! That Sir is what you should concern yourself with. Jesus worked with his human father Joseph as a carpenter from a very young age. He worked 6 days a week and rested on the seventh. While in his ministry for 3 years, he appointed Judas as treasurer! Jesus was not a penniless man. The garment he wore was of such high quality that the Roman guards fought over it. The religions of this world have deceived man to this day about Jesus. No, Jesus would not join in with Communists, Marxist’s and or law breakers on Wall Street or in any other place.
Eliasim
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 6:00pmBut one thing is for certain that Jesus will spit out the lukewarm (there’s that name again “luke”) , and he will have the meek inherit the earth, and the righteous the kingdom of Heaven. Notice: the meek inherit the earth, and the righteous the Kingdom “Of” Heaven, but not saying the Kingdom “In” Heaven.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 10:01pmSorry folks, the Blaze won’t let me post on this topic again. I wish I could help you out on this.
Report Post »FEARDOM
Posted on October 27, 2011 at 6:37am@ mikenleeds
Report Post »He would be there he had a pretty big problem with greed not wealth but greed yes!
novelator
Posted on October 27, 2011 at 6:39amWell, here’s something to chew on. Jesus was certainly aware of Proverbs.
“He who works his land will have abundant food, but he who chases fantasies lacks judgment.” (Proverbs 12:11)
“All hard work brings a profit, but mere talk leads only to poverty.” (Proverbs 14:23)
“Lazy hands make a man poor, but diligent hands bring wealth. He who gathers crops in the summer is a wise son, but he who sleeps during harvest is a disgraceful son.” (Proverbs 10:4,5)
“One who is slack in his work is a close relative of one who destroys.” (Proverbs 18:9)
“The cravings of sluggards will be the death of them, because their hands refuse to work.” (Proverbs 21:25)
“I went past the field of a sluggard, past the vineyard of someone who has no sense; thorns had come up everywhere, the ground was covered with weeds, and the stone wall was in ruins. I applied my heart to what I observed and learned a lesson from what I saw: A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest–and poverty will come on you like a thief and scarcity like an armed man.” (Proverbs 24:30-34)
So, what do you think Jesus would do, since Proverbs was one of the books he grew up with–would he occupy or get to work?
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on October 27, 2011 at 7:33amExactly Jesus said what you sow so shall you reap. Jesus would tell the occupiers to quit sowing buzzes,pre-martial sex,and hate. You will reap poverty, hangovers,drug addiction,STD’s,unwanted pregnancies, and hatred from others as well as yourself. He would say if prosparity is your goal,sow hard work,determination,honesty,and faith.
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on October 27, 2011 at 10:40amMark 10:24 And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God!
[Note key concept here, those that "TRUST IN RICHES" distinguishing them from those that are simply rich.]
25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
[The custom of the day for camels laden with lots of earthly goods was that they would kneel down, remove the packages from their back, and then they could fit through the tight low entrance know as "the eye of a needle.]
26 And they were astonished out of measure, saying among themselves, Who then can be saved?
27 And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.
28 ¶Then Peter began to say unto him, Lo, we have left all, and have followed thee.
29 And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel’s,
30 But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.
[Notice what Jesus promises physical riches to those that followed him, both now on earth and later in eternal life, 100xhouses, 10
Report Post »Leader1776
Posted on October 27, 2011 at 10:58am@jzs
“Sorry folks, the Blaze won’t let me post on this topic again. I wish I could help you out on this.”
Not to worry ……….. your posts won’t be missed.
Report Post »Douglas Turnbull
Posted on October 27, 2011 at 12:29pmJesus would go to the Occupy Events because that is where HE does His Greatest Work, amongst the lowest of society and those expoilted by THOSE IN AUTHORITY! But He would offer them the same He offered all sinners; Opportunity to be Healed and change the way they live their lives. Render to Cesar what is his and to God, that which is HIS! We must not fall into the trap that Satan has set by using man’s ability to manipulate The Word and Actions of Christ. HE is GOD, THE I AM, that spoke through the Burning Bush to Moses. He is not of this World and cannot take on Labels of men. They tried to hang a sign on HIS CROSS claiming He was the “King og The Jews”, they will bend their knees shortly and their tongues will Proclaim HIM their Lord & King! God is not contained nor BOXED, have we not learned anything from Adam & Eve…..I aplogize if this point was already made!
Douglas J. Turnbull aka TurnbullD53 on twitter
Report Post »Berbel73
Posted on October 27, 2011 at 12:34pmPeople like JZS make me sick. They all try to act so holier than thou as if they and they alone know what Jesus’ real message is. They take clips and parts of the scriptures that fit their agenda, but refuse to look at Jesus’ overall message. Its disgusting and perverse, and what’s more they know that what they are doing is mocking Christianity. I got news for you JZS we know what you are attempting to do, and you are a sad sick pathetic individual.
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on October 27, 2011 at 1:50pmCNN doesn’t even believe in Jesus. As a place of employment you have to give up your religious affiliations to work there. This is an antagonistic argument designed to intimidate based on your faith. Sort of intimating that as a person, you have no rights to freedom of speech if someone else thinks Jesus would do something different. Which is a stupid premise on it’s very face.
Report Post »Shotgun167
Posted on October 27, 2011 at 3:29pmIcancomment, from your examples, would he not meet the protest of greed by pointing to the $5000 Apple laptops (before it was stolen), all the Ipods, cell-phones, and expensive camping equipment? Didn’t the Bible and Jewish law already speak to making oneself a debtor? There goes the “student loans are to high” argument.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on October 27, 2011 at 4:39pm“Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; a man’s life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions.” ~ Jesus
Report Post »royalseed
Posted on October 27, 2011 at 4:42pmJesus is the Word and the Word says to be not a striker which is what OWS is at it’s root. Scripture (the Word / Jesus) also said if you don‘t work you don’t eat. Try reading the TEN COMMANDMENTS! Please read Number 10 concerning this point and find OWS wanting!
The Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:2-17 NKJV)
10 “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”
Answer:Jesus would not participate in or condone OWS and their actions.
Report Post »kalendello
Posted on October 27, 2011 at 11:17pmAt the last supper, Jesus washed the feet of his disciples… which is more sanitation-concious than these hippies 2000 years later. Jesus would certainly be at the rally, but only to convince them to go meet his homeboy, John, in the river. In all seriousness, the topic is stupid, theyre just trying to give OWS the Jesus stamp of approval so that they can call you a Jesus hater. Jesus would definitely be against wall street, he hates econ and isnt that why he died on the cross? to free us from corporate greed and demand that someine else’s success is unfair to me unless they pay for my education.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:42pmJesus didn’t repudiate a desire for personal wealth….joseph of arimathea and nicodemus were rich supporters of His…..
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 4:11pmRight, exactly. And then Solomon comes to mind. And wasn’t there a parable about a man who hired many men over different time, with the last hired getting the same pay as the first hired, the first hired complaining because most of the work was done, and Jesus then launching into a sermon along the lines that contract law was good and to be happy with what you negotiated and stop worrying about how much others work and are paid. (I totally forget the details of this, and the chapter/verse, sorry)
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 4:21pmThat’s right. People think that because Jesus told a rich man to go sell all his belongings and give it to the poor and then follow Jesus, they twist it into Jesus not liking those whom have money. When in reality Jesus was pointing out that “a” rich man would rather cling to his material wealth over following the Lord, and if “a” rich man would tell the Lord No to the Lord’s face, then the rich man would be even less likely to give up his things when the Lord was more distant. And Jesus wasn’t saying people have to “Spread the wealth around” because if that was the case then why didn’t Jesus give people all his own clothes off his own back?
Report Post »jzs
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 4:47pmYou won’t see it here, but you should google the latest report from the CBO. “From 1979 to 2007, average household income for the nation’s top 1 percent more than tripled… For middle-class earners, it was a different story. Household income grew by just under 40 percent and the poorest fifth of the population saw their incomes rise by just 18 percent in a little less than 30 years.”
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/breaking/chi-top-1-getting-richer-congress-researchers-report-20111026,0,2275882.story
Now, maybe the richest are 300% more deserving than they were 30 years ago. Or maybe government policy is making it easier for the rich to become richer, while making it harder for the middle class (like you and me) and the poor to break into that elite class. Certainly the current crop of nominees advocate policies that make the rich even richer.
It takes a lot of mental gymnastics to get the idea that Christ would favor national policies that support the richest at the expense of everyone else. Did He say, “Cutteth taxes for the rich?“ Everybody says ”Jesus didn’t mean” government supporting the poor, but that’s not in the Bible is it? We can’t choose to be a country that helps those who can least help themselves? Or must every policy help that 1% become every richer? Where is that in the Bible?
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 5:23pmGee JZS, did he say “tax breaks for the richest”? Well let me answer that with a question: Did he say tax *anybody* at any level?
Oh my, how inconvenient that you cannot use a religion that I suspect you otherwise hold in contempt, to advance your leftist politics.
Report Post »NeverSurrender
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 5:35pmJZS, could you please point out 1 law that was writtne solely for the benefit of the wealthy? Here’s the problem I have with your 30 year report. 30 years ago Apple was a company being run out of a garage by two college dropouts. The laws you claim “are only for the rich” helped turn it into a billion dollar corporation. Does your 30 year report compare Steve Jobs 30 years ago with Steve Jobs before he died? Laws are written to benefit business not people. That’s the problem you libs have. You want government in all our lives. Please tell me exactly which government program (here or the rest of the world) ever made anyone rich? You won’t find one because all government does is reduce people down to the least common denominator. That is why is highly socialistic countries there is no middle class. There are the rich (who inherit their wealth) and there are the people being taken care of by the government.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 5:38pmJZS…it’s always amusing when a godless liberal tries to invoke the scriptures in pursuit of their Marxist goals. To add insult to your injury….Marxism is by it’s very nature, anti-Christian. Your twisted hermeneutics only add to your lack of any standing on the subject. An eggplant like you should just stick to reciting what your keepers have told you to recite…you know “1%”…”I speak for the 99% of all household germs”…“tax the rich”..all that stuff.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 6:20pmRule #4
“Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.”
http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communism/alinsky.htm
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 27, 2011 at 9:40am“It takes a lot of mental gymnastics to get the idea that Christ would favor national policies that support the richest at the expense of everyone else. ”
so explain, in detail how the rich getting richer, cost me?
you libs throw out talking points, but you have nothing to back them up.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 27, 2011 at 9:43am“We can’t choose to be a country that helps those who can least help themselves? Or must every policy help that 1% become every richer? Where is that in the Bible?”
uh what policies and programs do we have that help people? your beloved socialist welfare state is a HUGE failure…
your socialist programs keep people down and dependent…the whole ‘war on poverty’ is holding people back, there is less money to invest in people’s own kids, careers, businesses, etc, since the welfare state is taking it to create democrat paradises like detroit.
you libs have much to answer for.
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on October 27, 2011 at 10:45am[JZS (known troll and reprobate) It takes a lot of mental gymnastics to get the idea that Christ would favor national policies that support the richest at the expense of everyone else. Did He say, “Cutteth taxes for the rich?“]
What did God decree as the form of tithing for both rich and poor? Ten percent of their increase. Tithing literally means one tenth. That means, God/Jesus support a flat tax plan of 10 percent, not being a respecter of men.
Why do some idiots (JZS for example) support a non flat tax rate? Because their desire is to have the government rob from the rich, in order to make themselves more wealthy, on the labors of those more capable than themselves.
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on October 27, 2011 at 10:58amAnother point that idiot troll JZS fails to mention is that during the last 30 or so years the middle class income (adjusted for inflation, etc) rose by 40%. That means that the middle class ALL GOT RICHER as well. The rich got richer mostly because your standard investment vehicles (real estate, stocks, commodities, etc) all WENT UP IN VALUE, indicating a strong economy. An economy so strong that EVERYONE IN THE USA, typically had their quality of life GO UP.
And the liberal idiots do tend to complain the most when the economy goes up. And what stops the economy from going up, benefiting the entire nation? Removing the money from those that know what to do with it.
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on October 27, 2011 at 11:03amIn heaven, everyone is rich. Streets paved with gold, ultimate technology, everyone living in mansions. It seems God does not despise the rich, especially since he himself is infinity rich every imaginable way you can count it.
Report Post »Shotgun167
Posted on October 27, 2011 at 3:33pmNeversurrentder said: which government program (here or the rest of the world) ever made anyone rich
Duh! Can you say, “Solyndra”?
Report Post »Shotgun167
Posted on October 27, 2011 at 3:44pmYou won’t see it here, but you should google the latest report from the CBO. “From 1979 to 2007, average household income for the nation’s top 1 percent more than tripled… For middle-class earners, it was a different story. Household income grew by just under 40 percent and the poorest fifth of the population saw their incomes rise by just 18 percent in a little less than 30 years.”
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Report Post »Interesting statistic there, JZS. Now do us a the favor if you would. Tell us how many that were in the top 20% 30 years ago are still there, how many in the bottom 20% are still there, and explain how the government policies caused so much churn.
TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:41pmCNN is laughable; so ignorant…BUT…their type of behaviour may bring some/many to a saving knowledge of Christ. Romans 8:28, I think. Anyway, there is always room for another saved soul. Jesus is still a carpenter up there building “many rooms/mansions” for those who trust Him. It’s gonna be good!
Report Post »NJAZ
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 8:39pm1 Thess 4:13-18, Rev. 3:10 — Also looking forward to it! Hey, I like what you said about Rom. 8:28, and isn’t it exciting to see how eloquently everyone is explaining Scripture. I think there are a lot of us. Many of my friends and relatives are militantly supporting ows…I’m just sick about the suggestion that JESUS would be part of such a deliberately FILTHY gathering. It’s vile. Did you see the “person” defecating on the police car? Thank God for gbtv.com.
Report Post »Leopold
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:40pmNo, He would not. He would tell them: Go earn your keep. Do not take that which does not belong to you. Do not be greedy. Do not covet. Love your neighbour. Jesus did not say love your poor neighbour.
It is astonishing, that people who do not know Jesus, think that they know what He would do.
Report Post »db321
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:46pmFirst of all Jesus would rebuke the devourers who have organized and are funding the protest Rally’s – you can fool man – but you can’t fool the Son of God!
Report Post »kfalcon22000
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 4:06pmVery well said.
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 4:07pmHE might just clear “that temple of satan’s” real fast! That would be something to see, wouldn’t it?
Report Post »NJAZ
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 9:09pm@Kickagrandma [don't you dare!] Wouldn’t it be a trip if they were still there when the Rapture happens?~! haha
Report Post »NJAZ
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 9:16pm@db321: AMEN to that!
Report Post »garyM
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:37pmJesus is Heaven at the right hand of the Father right now, before his death burial and resurrection he told His Disciples and He also tells us through His Word that when he ascended to Heaven he would not leave us as orphans, He would send the Holy Spirit as a comforter. Jesus left His church consisting of those people who have been born again to do His work until He returns to take the church to Heaven. The Holy Spirit calls lost people unto repentance and the Holy Spirit lives within every believer and guides them into all truth. If Jesus were here on earth now and chose to go to Wall Street, he wouldn’t go unnoticed and He would change lives of those who willing to believe that He is the Son of God. He would rebuke those who need rebuking! That’s my Biblical understanding!
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:52pmWhat of the New Jerusalem that comes down from Heaven?
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:54pmAnd Jesus is still at the right-hand of the Father.
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 4:08pmLike it, Gary! HE would indeed rebuke those who need rebuking and HE would encourage those who need HIS encouragement and mercy.
Report Post »NJAZ
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 9:14pmSounds about right, Gary!
Report Post »Twinspeedr
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:37pmJesus DID indeed repudiate personal wealth. HOWEVER, NONE of these clowns can say the same thing, if the did they would be lying.
Report Post »joe1234
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:43pmno He didn’t…joseph of arimathea and nicodemus were both His supporters…
only the rich young ruler, because he was a slave of money….
you can also see solomon…Why would the Lord make him so wealthy if He was against wealth?
Report Post »copatriots
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:56pmRemember God blessed Solomon with many blessings…..one of which was to make him the richest man who has ever lived. I don’t recall God ever telling Solomon to redistribute his wealth. Rather, because God also blessed Solomon with wisdom, Solomon, choose of his own free will, to help the people in his land to honor God.
Report Post »Emrys
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 4:31pmWealth is not sinful. Letting your wealth govern your life and how you live it rather than letting God govern your life and determine how you live it is the sin. The rich young man came to Jesus, said he had followed the commandments since he was a young man, and Jesus looked on him and loved him. Then he told him that he only lacked one thing, to take all his wealth, sell it, give the money to the poor, and come follow Him. The man went away sad, because he was very rich. His wealth held more sway on his heart than following Christ, and that was no doubt why Jesus asked him to give it up. The man did not pass the test, at least not at that time. Perhaps he did later.
Jesus Kingdom was not of this earth, He said. He was much less concerned with the material world than with the spiritual world, which is eternal.
Lay up your treasures in Heaven, he tells us. This world is passing away, and your wealth (or your poverty) will not last. Focus instead on the higher things. You have more money than I do? Eh, so what. It‘s all God’s, and I can’t be jealous that he gave you more material goods than He did me. It’s all His in the end, we don’t take any of it with us.
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on October 27, 2011 at 11:11amActually, Jesus repudiated only those that “place their trust in their riches”. I know that for simple minded people they may here he hated the rich when they read such verses. However, he disliked it when people had misplaced loyalties for anything. That would apply to the poor trusting the government over God, liberals trusting drugs over God, anybody placing their trust in the arm of man as opposed to the arm of God, etc, etc.
Jesus also promised his followers that they would be rewarded one hundred fold, both with one hundred fold houses, one hundred fold lands, one hundred fold family relationships, etc.
Jesus also said that his followers would be rewarded with “a mansion in heaven”, “streets paved with gold”, jeweled encrusted city walls, etc, etc.
Not to mention the fact that God is the largest real estate owner in the universe.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:37pmJesus didn’t love his life too much to the end, and let himself be crucified. That seems to me to be much greater than the reasons for which they protest, and therefore he would not be protesting. Because the protesters are protesting because they absolutely love their lives and their things which isn’t anything close to what Jesus was about.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:45pmFor that matter, Jesus wouldn’t protest with the Tea Parties either.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:46pmJesus would take it as the Father gave it.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:49pmJesus knew of the much greater plan in that Jesus is the greater plan.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:36pmAdd CNN to the long list of very shocked and frightened people when the King of Kings comes with a rod of iron to “smash the nations”.
Report Post »Jax2b
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:35pmJesus is not democrat or republican. He’s not Tea Party and not OWS. He is the ultimate independent. He doesn’t conform. We conform. We all need to get a clue.
Report Post »Lord_Frostwind
Posted on October 27, 2011 at 4:15amJax has it right, Jesus had a lot more important things to do, like I don’t know, TEACH THE GOSPEL than engage in pathetic politics.
But for all these pendejo’s on the air screaming “What would Jesus do?” here’s a bible verse, “Covet not thy neighbors house, nor his wife…” Want to know what this protest is? It’s more than commies, it’s more than smelly hippies, it’s what happens when the sin of envy runs rampant.
Report Post »Centralsville
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:35pmThe Bible is full of warnings about a rebellious spirit. These people are Marxists. Read your history about what happens to people when Marxists take over. Millions die. Freedom is lost, including the freedom of religion. The Jews turned against Christ precisely because he wasn’t political enough. His kingdom was not of this world. To compare these protesters to Christ is complete total ignorance of Christianity and the Bible. What else would you expect from CNN. The left has been attacking Christianity and Christian morality for decades now.
Report Post »Leopold
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:34pmNo, He would not. He would tell them: Go earn your keep. Do not take what does not belong to you. Do not be greedy. Do not covet And if you give, and leave your gift at the altar, first correct were you did wrong. Be thankful for all the blessings that you have.
It is astobnishing, that people who have no clue about who Jesus is and why He came, think they have some sort of knowledge of what He would do.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:44pmAnd yet what would Chirst say to the 1%, the group that created the Tea Party to protect their tax breaks, the group that is hording its money and destroying the middle classs, the group that has paid off the GOP to destroy jobs and worker’s rights.
Report Post »yiska8
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 4:07pmGood post. Most of these bought and paid for OWS loiterers are atheists and hurl horrible curse words about the bible involving the F-bomb. The way they are acting,living, and committing such blasphemies out in public, I would be careful of incurring the Lord’s wrath. As for the Catholic Church involving themselves in this I am disappointed. Yet again. Social justice is the mantra and they are going to keep at it, even if church membership continues to dwindle.Pope Benedict may not even be aware of these proposals. But, I still go to mass, because not all priests are child molesters or lib theology zealots. And had I not had some faith, I would have turned out like these lost OWS souls. I hope they realize how truly used, misguided, and wrong they are in their methods of protest and their reasoning behind it. Jesus might show up any day now. We know not the day or hour, but if he did show up at these protests, I think he’d show his unending love and hope that they would confess and accept him as their savior.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 5:35pmENCIDIOT..it’s always hysterical when godless liberals invoke Christ. Get material champ.
Report Post »fedupwiththebs
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 5:54pmEncinom – On Judgement Day, Jesus Christ is going to ask the same two questions to the “1%“ and the ”99%”: Did you “love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind?’ AND, did you “love your neighbor as yourself?” (Matthew Ch.22 Ver 37-39) Depending how you fared on Earth with regard to these two questions will determine your eternal fate. I will pray for you.
Report Post »NJAZ
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 9:25pm@ENCINOM: huh?
Report Post »kmichaels
Posted on October 27, 2011 at 11:15am[encinom
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:44pm
And yet what would Chirst say to the 1%, the group that created the Tea Party to protect their tax breaks, the group that is hording its money and destroying the middle classs, the group that has paid off the GOP to destroy jobs and worker’s rights]
Middle class income, adjusted for inflation, etc, has gone UP 40% for the last 30 years. Quality of life has GONE UP, for the last 100 years.
Methinks encinom is a dimwitted lying liberal troll..
Report Post »welovetheUSA
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:32pmI hope they keep this stuff up……..one thing communist liberals will never understand, thats not who we are, its who you are, all 1% of you.
Report Post »ELF1024
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:30pmMatthew 25:20-30
No Christ would not join in #OWS
26 His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:
27 Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.
Report Post »Black Manta
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:29pmTo say Jesus would occupy wall street is ignorant….for one no one there knows Jesus….think about it…why are they fighting?….FOR MONEY…this is what it’s all about…and Jesus said unto the man sell all your stuff and give to the poor and the man turned and wept…so what does that say about Jesus? These humans…if they were to get what they want…what about those who don’t have?
Report Post »alienguns
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:25pmCNN brings up Jesus??….I thought (in their minds and many minds of the liberal progs) he didn’t exist. Why would they care what a fictional (in their minds) character would do?—these people are pathetic
Report Post »FaithfulFriend
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:24pmWould Christ occupy the Vatican is the better question. A dogmatic, bureaucratic & political religion that to my knowledge doesn’t stand for the clarity of Biblical anything.
Report Post »vtxphantom
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:40pmJesus would occupy the Vatican. He would throw out the blasphemers, nonbelievers, and heritics that fester the Vatican. There are good people of the faith there. Real people that believe in a real G_d.
Report Post »Itsourtime
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:44pmPlease do not comment on something you obviously don’t know anything about. How can you say anything about the Catholic Church? The same Church founded by Christ. The same Church that has withstood the splintering and watering down of the teachings of Christ. Learn your history and stop spewing hatred. If you truly want to know the truth and teachings you can do so at http://www.catholicdoctrine.org or read the Catechism of the Catholic Church which can be found online. Everything the Church teaches can be found in Scripture and that is the plain truth.
Report Post »djmaine
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:21pmIt’s funny how atheists are such experts on Jesus
Report Post »Lemon Party Patriot
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:27pmFunny and True. I wouldn’t call myself an atheist but I am not a christian either. But I bet I know a lot more about his life and teachings than you think I would.
Report Post »djmaine
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 4:18pmI rest my case
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:20pmHe probably would show up. He didn’t preach to the righteous, preferring instead to go down into the dens of thieves, whores and tax collectors. He was fearless like that, because He knew that’s where the hate filled hearts that needed his message the most were to be found.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:24pmAnd brother, if there was ever a collection of hate filled hearts, it’s clearly at these demonstrations.
Report Post »Lemon Party Patriot
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:28pmOr on this website. He should preach here.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:59pmThere are people with anger issues here, true Lemon. Given your posting history and constant mocking of others, I’d wager that you may fall into the very group he would address. That wouldn’t be a bad thing, we can all improve our lives and our hearts.
Slainte
Report Post »Lemon Party Patriot
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 4:05pmGood point, Ghost of Slaver R4per.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 4:47pmHow can one find so much joy in hate? I hope you some day douse that ember of anger that burns in your heart, friend, and find some peace in life. Being hateful to people you‘ve never met in real life is no way to spend one’s short time on earth.
Slainte
Report Post »Lemon Party Patriot
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 5:10pmListen guy, if you believed that FOR A SECOND then you wouldn’t be hanging out on this website. The comments section is here is full of people wallowing in hate directed towards people they’ve never met. You guys are so self-richeous. At least I’m honest enough to admit that I enjoy it. You’re kidding yourself.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 8:53pm@Lemon
Alas guy, you see, I do believe what I say. I don’t make it a policy to lie about what I believe or do not believe, thus, I’m never in the awkward position of having to justify myself to myself, that so many people find themselves in.
It seems I struck a nerve with you. Good, that’s a sign that you still have a conscious left. Explore that conscious and ask yourself what kind of person you’ve become, who enjoys lashing out at others in anger, as you freely admit that you do.
Your argumentum tu quoque regarding others on this site makes no logical sense, and since you clearly do not follow my posts, your judgement about me is equally invalid.
Please, if you really consider yourself a leftist, surely you initially came to that ideology out of a desire to help those you felt were weak and downtrodden. Where is that spirit now, when you’re surrounded by people who are the living embodiment of the non financially privileged? Do you even recall the feelings you had of goodwill towards your fellow man, or has hate eaten that too? You can do better with your life friend, please, I implore you to consider that possibility.
Report Post »DYNA
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:13pmGreed is a state of heart. If being wealthy is bad than Jesus would be guilty because everything the Father owns has been given to Him. And I am a joint heir with Christ so I lack for nothing.
A warning, coveting and envy is a killer and will make one poor. The reason there are more greedy poor people on the road to hell than greedy rich people is that there are more of them.
Report Post »TxMadMac
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:13pmKnow Jesus, Know God. No Jesus, no God. You cannot stir up believers on this one but you sure can nonbelievers. They don‘t know enough to know the difference except to argue about it and I won’t !
Report Post »deeberj
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:11pmMy posts aren’t showing today.
So here goes again. If Jesus were going to be there, it would not be to be a participant. He would be there to preach His good news, the Gospel. He would not be crapping on cars and in doorways, soliticing money on the streets, banging on drums and dancing around like a person on acid, and DEFINATELY not yelling about how Jews need to be dead.
Report Post »deeberj
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:09pmJesus would not be with the Occupiers as a participant in what they are doing. If He were going to be there at all, it would be there to preach His good news, the Gospel, to them. Not crapping on cars and in people’s private doorways, soliciting money in the street, banging on drums and dancing around like He was on acid, and DEFINATELY not yelling about how Jews need to be dead.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:08pmIf he would, they wouldn’t have to worry about food. A can of tuna and a loaf of bread would feed them all…with leftovers. But, he wouldn’t.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:11pmof course Jesus would attend the OWS Fecesstock….after all he endorsed public sex, defecation and urination on others’ property, statutory rape, heroin use and other narcotics, retaliation for being evicted from Oakland parks…etc..etc.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:21pmActually a better question would be..Would Jesus be welcome at the OWS Fecesfest?
I believe this snippet from a Washington Examiner article gives us a significant clue.
The writer is attending a meeting of the “99% of all household germs” in DC…..
During the final session reserved for comments, discussions became somewhat heated when a man stood and said through the “human mic,” “We are all God’s children. We should not label each other.” Another man responded, “Issues of inequality should be at the center of discussions.”
A woman added, “Don’t mention God. It makes me feel like I have to hide my agnostic beliefs.”
And so….the question is answered…Jesus has no place at these protests because fragile liberal sensibilities can be hurt.
Report Post »teapartyconservatism
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:06pmObama’s purported birth certificate alleging “where” he was born, also indicates his parent’s citizenship “when” he was born. These equally important vital “facts” are now beyond Obama’s ability to refute, alter or hide! Unless it’s a fake, the inescapable truth is that his Kenyan father absolutely precludes Obama from being an eligible natural born citizen!
Please don’t let the media or uninformed conservative talk radio or TV hosts, dissuade you from seeking truth and justice as you strive to be an informed voter. Let their credibility suffer by inaction, and not your life! Don’t risk Obama being reelected by the misled masses.
Initiate a local Tea Party petition asking your sheriff, sworn and empowered to enforce the law of the land, to investigate and subpoena the original HI records for forensic analysis and comparison to Obama’s fraudulent birth certificate and social security number, as alleged by experts.
Presidential candidates now have legal standing. Each must file a lawsuit against Obama for fraud and failure to qualify as a natural born citizen, meaning born in the US to TWO US citizen parents, as required of the President by the Constitution, or be dismissed as untrustworthy!
It costs nothing to learn why a “natural born citizen” is not the same thing as a citizen, but it could cost you everything if you don’t.
How to know the truth and remove Obama from office now!
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Lemon Party Patriot
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:30pmGive it up, nutbag. You’re embarrassing yourself.
Report Post »teapartyconservatism
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 7:48pm@ Lemon Party Patriot
Having wasted a few seconds to review your recent posts, you have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting. In what world could you possibly justify such nonsense? Be gone, foul Obot. Your very name screams ignorance and treason.
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on October 26, 2011 at 3:00pmThe poor will always be with us…
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