Now Law: Kansas Requires Proof of Citizenship, Photo ID at Voting Booths
- Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:02pm by
Emily Esfahani Smith
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“This is a modest, prudent measure. You show photo ID to cash a check, you show one to get on a plane, it’s something people are used to doing.” So said Kansas Governor Sam Brownback after signing a law last week requiring voters to present photo IDs when they vote. “It’s a modest and important measure to ensure the sanctity of the vote,” he said of the law which is aimed at combatting voter fraud.
CNS News has more details about the controversial law, which the American Civil Rights Union (ACLU) called “a giant leap backwards.”
The new Kansas law requires photo ID from all in-person voters at every election. People submitting mail-in ballots must include either a copy of their photo ID or the number from the photo ID card. The law also requires proof of citizenship – a birth certificate, for example — for new voters who register on or after Jan. 1, 2013.
The ACLU complains that the new law offers free birth certificates only to Kansas-born residents, while residents born out-of-state “would bear the financial burden and trouble of contacting their home states to attain birth certificates” to meet the new law’s requirements. “The costs associated with meeting the new law’s requirements are especially burdensome to low-income voters,” the ACLU added.
The group says Kansas’ new voter ID law undermines efforts to expand the right to vote to “historically marginalized groups” such as racial minorities, low-income voters, the disabled, and senior citizens. It also rejects the argument that a photo ID will bar illegal immigrants from voting in Kansas. It says there is no evidence of rampant voter fraud.
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Comments (386)
Knowpig
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:20pmSo ensuring the integrity of an election is a step backwards?
Report Post »Right. Gotcha. Thanks ACLU.
Midwest Blonde
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:19pmI live in a very small town – less than 400 people. The people at the voting place (the ONE place in town where you can vote) all KNOW me, and STILL, I OFFER my ID. I am not asked for it, I OFFER IT. They all wave it away but, I insist they double check it. Why should cashing a check require ID but voting doesn’t? I STILL use my ID at the bank, where EVERYONE who works there knows me. Habit? maybe but it doesn‘t bother me a bit to prove I’m who I say I am, regardless who I’m proving it to.
Report Post »Mil-Dot
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 2:02amWhen I go to Lowe’s to buy a 2 x 4 with my credit card, they ask for my ID. The only people that have a problem with it are the cheaters and the liars. I am sick of the so called “poor”. They have ruined this country. If you can’t survive in America without leaching off the working people then go somewhere and die already.
Report Post »Mister_Bill
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:19pmThis is an interesting logical problem. If you cannot find people voting illegally, does that mean that there are no illegal voters? The only proof would be in the next election if there was a very large difference in voting trends. If all of a sudden there was hundred of votes coming out of one precinct where there was thousands before, that would call for an inquiry. The only thing that law breakers complain about is the law that they do not follow. All this law will do is keep honest people honest.
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:28pmhow? if i cannot prove citizenship; then i cannot vote. raw numbers would go down; but % of registered voters voting should go up.
Report Post »Goldenyears22
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:18pmHooray for Kansas, great idea. Why would anyone oppose unless they have something to hide?
Report Post »jzs
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:17pmSorry, struck down. The law is a transparent attempt to prohibit the poor, the uneducated and minorities from voting. I can’t quote the precedents, sorry, but this law has a disproportionate effect on groups most likely to vote Democratic.
Sorry Kansas, you can’t disenfranchise the poor or Mexicans. That’s established law. We don’t set up barriers to legal citizens from voting here in the country. Go to Russia for that, but don’t do that anymore in this country.
Report Post »gambit5555
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:30pmYour a moron. Requiring ID doesn’t disenfranchise anyone. Id is required to drive, to get medicine, to enter certain places, it should most definitely be required to vote.
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:43pmyour going to have to come up with a better excuse than that there is no reason for someone not to have an id
show me one voter that cant obtain an id, that doesnt spend their money on other frivolous items and activities and i will show you 100 people willing to help pay for it
Report Post »tankerBigRed1
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:46pmIffin day can’t aford da id day better not vote -cuz day will vote for more handouts..
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:53pm@JZS
Report Post »Time for the democratic election machine to pony up for 2 million drivers licenses, at $60 per that’s only 120 million, the democrats have paid more for a single vote than that, just ask George Soros.
seeker9
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 12:17amJZS, jzs, jzs
What?? Mexicans can‘t get ID’s? Maybe they should get get proper citizenship and be Americans.
I thought you progs/socialists only befriended other elitists. Not really. Got to keep the poor and uneducated in their places so Acorn type groups can go hand out twinkies and lies to get votes.
Report Post »seeker9
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 12:37am@JeeZS
Report Post »Glad you acknowledge that you are sorry.
Therightsofbilly
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 1:25amSorry JZS
Got to agree with Gambit. You are indeed a moron. I guess global warming has thawed the freeze over I mentioned on the other thread.
I can’t buy an adult beverage without showing a photo ID. An awful lot of poor, uneducated people are buying alcohol. They care enough about catching a buzz to have a photo ID. They should also care enough if they want to choose their leaders.
Had this discussion here before. Why do we require immigrants to pass a test to become a citizen? Is it to prove that they know some important things about the country they wish to adopt? The country they wish to vote in? All voters should be required to have some basic knowledge about our country, it’s founding, and it’s system of government.
I don’t care what you say. An uninformed vote is a dangerous vote. Might as well flip a coin.
Do you have a job? Would you like it if a group of poor, uneducated workers in your company, that knew absolutely nothing about you, were allowed to vote on whether or not you got paid? And before the vote, they were informed that your pay would be distributed amongst them?
And to top it all off, I have seen numerous democrats on here, and elsewhere vehemently insist that democrats on the whole, are far more intelligent than Republicans / conservatives.
And yet you, JZS have just stated that ONE of the groups most likely to vote democratic, are the “uneducated”
Thank you. I told you the other day, the more you guys talk, the more you assist our cause.
Report Post »TEXAG87
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 2:12amNot only should ID be required to vote,but I believe that people on “public assistance” should have to give up their right to vote as long as they are on it. As long as people are on welfare,foodstamps,section 8 housing, ect., they will continue to vote for those who will give them more “free” stuff. Social security and medicare do not count. People paid into those up front. There should be a price to pay for “free” stuff.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 10:38amThere are so few cases of voter fraud and large scale claim has ever been proven. But, the GOP’s favorite weapon, setting up road blocks and voter disenfranchisement, there are volumes of books with examples, this Kansas law is just the newest one.
Tell me how the little old granny that moved to Kansas to be close to her family is going ot produce a Birth Certificate. it won’t be easy or the example Non_Probate_Asset provides above. Are state issued ID’s going ot be free to all residence? Otherwise, this is a new form of a poll tax, on its face unconstitutional.
Report Post »Therightsofbilly
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 1:32pm@encino
No, not free to all “RESIDENTS”
But if someone is truly that destitute, I think that would actually be a worthwhile use of tax revenue.
And it’s not hard to get a birth certificate. Fairly easy to be honest.
And by the way, my favorite weapon is an Atlatl.
Quick question, do you know how many presidence we have had?
Your ignorance speaks volumes.
Report Post »Darryl K
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:15pmFINALLY!!!!
Report Post »And all I have to say to the ACLU on this issue is *#%! you ACLU…. I have to show my drivers license to use my credit card at 7-eleven. It’s about time this law goes federal…
2Smart2BaLib
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:15pmI would like to see the same law here in Massachusetts – Here in MA we have 55,000 illegals that cost us $1.2Billion a year in government benefits.
Report Post »Laws like this one are good for America
BLACKDIAMONDSKIER
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:59pmWell don’t just type it. Like we say in TX…..“Get R Done”
Report Post »leftcoastslut
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 9:48amwe here in CA probably have 5,500,000 illegals.. and they are each hanging on a teete, problem is the old sow is going dry
Report Post »M240G Marine
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:14pmNow, if the other 49 states will get on board……………or 57 states, depends on who you ask!
Report Post »GONESURFING
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:14pmwhat ? ? ?
Report Post »gman2012
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:14pmAbout time…
Report Post »psst
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:14pmThe ACLU complains that the new law offers free birth certificates only to Kansas-born residents, while residents born out-of-state “would bear the financial burden and trouble of contacting their home states to attain birth certificates” to meet the new law’s requirements.
Guess the ACLU (ameriKan Communist & Leftist Union)thinks it costs as much($2 mil) to get your LFBC as it costs the Poseur Soetoro to hide his.
Report Post »Non_Probate_Asset
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 3:40amThink about it this way. You are a Colorado resident. When you turned 16, you took your Colorado birth certificate to the DMV and received your Colorado driver’s license. A few years later, you get a job and move to Kansas. In Kansas, as in most states, you simply need to exchange your valid Colorado driver’s license for a Kansas one without showing any more identification (after all, it is a photo ID). Then, an election occurs in your new Kansas town.
You are excited to vote, so you grab your driver’s license and head down to the county offices to register to vote. When you show up, they demand to see your original birth certificate, since you are a first time voter in Kansas. However, it got lost in the move. You contact the State of Colorado for a replacement, but it does not arrive until after election day.
Not only have you payed a poll tax (the money it cost you to get a new birth certificate) which is forbidden by the Constitution, but you have just lost your Constitutional right to vote–all because of an unnecessary law.
Does this clear things up?
Report Post »code green
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 10:29amSorry but a poll tax was paid to vote at the polling place. Cost of a birth cert. is different than a poll tax, even though there is a charge for it . Not protected by the constitution.
Report Post »Don’t praise Brownback too much. He was an amnesty advocate when he was in congress.
TumbleBumble
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:13pmthe controversial law, which the American Civil Rights Union (ACLU) called “a giant leap backwards.” Yes, how dare the good state of Kansas take steps to insure that only legal citizens vote.
“The group says Kansas’ new voter ID law undermines efforts to expand the right to vote to “historically marginalized groups” such as racial minorities, low-income voters, the disabled, and senior citizens.” I’d like to know why they think that racial minorities, disabled citizens or seniors would not already have their birth certificates. But then again – where is Obama’s? ;)
Report Post »Mil-Dot
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 1:55amThat same old tired argument that “it will disenfranchise the poor” is nothing but a ruse to brow beat legal citizens into allowing illegal voting by minorities. It is plain old BS.
Report Post »GdavidH
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:13pmGo away!!!
Report Post »onegodinkansas
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:12pmAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH YYYYYYeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!
Report Post »tmkphx1962
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:12pmAs usual the minorities and the senior citizens will suffer. Really? I have a copy of my birth certificate. I am pretty sure that most people do. If you do not it does not cost that much. My god.
Report Post »raspberrytea
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:12pmBlaze.. Why did you post this??
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:50pmyour kidding right???
why wouldnt you ?
Report Post »axel@25
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 1:46amUhhh … not sure if you figured things out yet so maybe I can help.
Things get posted because they are of interest to many people and it encourages some to comment and exchange ideas and information… So, If someone finds the posting to not be of interest to them…they aren’t REQUIRED to post anything.
If you don’t like stories about floods…don‘t read ’em and don’t comment.
If you only like stories about royal weddings ..then by all means, look for those and comment on them.
If how a State is trying to reduce voter fraud doen’t interest you ..fine. Maybe they’ll post something about Twilight or the newest Pixar release and you can comment on one of those.
Report Post »Ron_WA
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 2:01amTouché & thanks
Report Post »riseandshine
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:11pmGood on ya Kansas
Report Post »neverending
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:11pmGood for him. Every state should do that and there should be no exceptions and registering at the same time as voting should be banned. I have this terrible sinking feeling that 2012 is going to be the banner year for corruption at the polls!
Report Post »west1890
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 12:39amI‘d bet you’re absolutely right. This next election will probably be the most important in American history and Soros and his cabal will do whatever they have to to retain power so that they can complete the economic and political destruction of the USA. My guess is that they thought they could complete their plan in Obama’s first term-and they would have had it not been for that pesky bunch of Tea Party people and talk radio
Report Post »alrunner58
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:11pmIt sounds as though voter fraud will be more difficult…hummm
Report Post »vinnymac46
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:10pm…the American Civil Rights Union (ACLU) called “a giant leap backwards.” I feel the same way about Oblame-a-Care…
Report Post »charliedontserf
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:09pmso i guess if obama moves to Kansas he cant vote
Report Post »psst
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:37pmI’m sure he (the poseur)has a drivers license.
Report Post »I guess a Mombassan DL IS a driver license.
He can register before Jan 01/13 w/o his LFBC.
The piece did not specify that the DL had to be from this country.
dirtypolitics
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 1:58pmAll states should do this.
Report Post »00gabooga
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:09pmIt is a giant leap backwards. FOR VOTER FRAUD.
Report Post »i want the truth
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:14pmIsn’t this a law by all states? Or do you just have to be a white American to show your id anymore?
Report Post »TumbleBumble
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:28pmI WANT THE TRUTH ~
At the polls where I vote (suburb of Chicago), I have to show an ID during the general elections. But during the local elections, including the most recent one, they don’t ask for one. Never asked why but I assune since turn-out is so low, they aren’t worried about fraud.
Report Post »Eric_The_Red_State
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:36pmTurnout in Chicago?
Report Post »They know exactly how many people are going to turn out in Chicago three days before the election. (If ya catch my drift)
TumbleBumble
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 12:01amERIC_THE_RED_STATE ~
LOL! Yeah, you got me there.
Report Post »Mil-Dot
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 1:47am@I want the truth.
Report Post »You got it buddy. That is what I am seeing as well. Only the white devil has to show ID.
Armed Patriot
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 10:11pm@i want the truth “Isn’t this a law by all states? Or do you just have to be a white American to show your id anymore?”
No ID is required in the Peoplez Republik of Kalifornia, even by whitey. Every time I vote, I pull my drivers license out and the liberal ladies working the poll say,”He want the Republican ballot.”
Report Post »DagneyT
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:06pmWe’re working very hard to get this same requirement in Texas! I have to show my ID when I go to my doctor, why should it not be required when we elect someone who can enact laws? HUH? Gimme a break!
Report Post »RedPillPatriot
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:26pmSi
Report Post »north 49
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:37pmEh
Report Post »Mil-Dot
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 1:45amEvery time that I go to vote the old ladys at the polls stick their hands out waiting for an ID to be placed into them. Only a cheater and a liar would advocate not having to provide identification.
Report Post »Shasta
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:15amMil-Dot posted “..Only a cheater and a liar would advocate not having to provide identification”. Well said. Sadly, that tells me that DOJ and the ACLU are probably on their way to court as we write.
Report Post »jeffyfreezone
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:05pmThis is refreshing!
Report Post »Wilbur D Pig
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 7:53am“new voter ID law undermines… “historically marginalized groups” …It also rejects the argument that a photo ID will bar illegal immigrants from voting in Kansas. It says there is no evidence of rampant voter fraud.”
Interesting dichotomy here. The ACLU claims that it will undermine the “historically marginalized,” but offers no evidence to back that statement. Then in the same paragraph, they say there is no evidence of voter fraud. So decisive on both points are we? Where is the evidence that these “marginalized” persons wanted to vote but were unable to? I for one like being carded at the polls.
Report Post »demint.disciple
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:00am@82DAIRBORN… Poor huh ? Didn’t stop you from obtaining a computer and online service …
Report Post »Buck Bagaw
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 10:18amKansas should hang it’s head in shame for this dispicable act. They have just denied the right to vote to a large percentage of those holding registration in a major political party, and if the entire country follows their example, we may never see a president like the wonderful man currently in the White House elected again.
Report Post »decendentof56
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 7:25amDemint Disciple….
Report Post »Like that !
Robert-CA
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:05pmFinally someone with some reason .
Report Post »Eric_The_Red_State
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:12pmYou would have to question anyone’s motives if they had a problem with showing ID at the voting booth.
Report Post »I have to show ID everywhere else – why not there?
I can’t think of a reason why not?
Divineliberty
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:12pmHow is proving you are a citizen to vote for the people who lead our country ‘ leap backward’…these people are out of their mind.
Good for Kansas!
Report Post »GONESURFING
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:12pmWhat is it with these people who oppose showing an ID to vote. Oh yea, the Democrats who love to vote early and often. In my state of Hawaii if you don‘t have an ID you don’t vote, and that is how it should be everywhere, period.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:14pmAgreed. Now we see how fast the lawsuits start flying into the courts.
Report Post »Stoic one
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:14pmthis is required in clermont county ohio..
Report Post »GdavidH
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:18pmI never really understood the resistance to this. I have never voted without showing a photo ID, and I’m in deep blue Ct. Resistance to needing to positively identifying yourself should always raise a red flag!
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:19pmHopefully one day it will apply on Presidents too .
Report Post »SoylentGreen
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:22pmThis is the only way we can have a fair election in 2012.
Report Post »Hopefully all 50 states (or 57 according to BHO) decide to require ID at the voting booth.
82dAirborne
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:25pmI think this is probably a good idea. I have a problem with it however. I live in an area that is poor. I mean poor. – i.e. the city power company is forever either turning someone’s power off or back on. If you know me at all you know that I am NOT A FAN OF BIG GOVERNMENT in the least but if some folks have to pay for an ID, as they would need to here in Missouri, they wouldn’t even consider it. My last driver’s license cost me $60. Not a huge deal but it would be for some folks. I’d be willing to pay an extra buck or three to cover the costs of a “voter only” ID.
A voter ID for legal citizens would have to be free to the voter. Can you imagine the mileage the left would get from voters having to pay for acceptable identification??
Report Post »ManThong
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:25pmBravo! About freakin’ time.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:27pmThis should be LAW in all of BO’s 57 States…show proof of citizenship!!!
Report Post »Restored One
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:28pmI think this is great. However for those who do mail in ballots, I would not be comfortable putting any kind of person id # on it and then sending it through the USPS. Don’t mail it There are plenty of drop off locations for absentee.
Report Post »BLACKDIAMONDSKIER
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:30pmAmen….why does the ACLU always seem to have a problem with things that most Americans would see as a good measure to protect the integrity of the vote? It might be that they need non-citizen voters to try and achieve their socialist goals. Only having U.S. citizens vote does not work in their best interests. You know they are just trying to protect the poor, disenfranchised, citizens of Kansas. **yea right** The ACLU’s credibility has been reduced to almost nothing.
Report Post »WTH
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:42pmFinally one state is getting things right! There is NO, I repeat NO good reason why every state should not require some form of I.D. when you go to vote. To use the class warfare excuse of saying it will cost low income people more to vote is such a load of crap. The only reason the LEFT are crying foul is because this will now ruin their ways to cheat and try to fix elections. I applaud Kansas. Thank you.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:48pmI’ll bet Obama never goes to Kansas again. It’s a start, a common sense start let’s see if other States follow suit, perhaps one, just one will raise the anty!
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:48pmI wonder if it would have passed if Sebilyuck was still Gov.
Report Post »SavingtheRepublic.com
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:53pmBuuuuut proving your legal identity to be Pres is off the table? Or is this the next step for Kansas, proving you are legally qualified to run for Pres?
Report Post »roachesneverdie
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:56pmSadly, once the left agrees to accepting some form of ID before a person (they will never agree to requiring only citizens being able to vote, remember the distinction!) may vote, you can bet they will requirepublic funding in order to pay for ID‘s for the poor and disenfranchised that can’t be counterfitted or they will require acceptance of a library card that can be printed by anyone at any time like motor voter cards to be handed out at the drive-thru while to get your happy meal.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:57pmGood START! come on STATES ..
Report Post »CatB
Posted on April 25, 2011 at 11:58pm@ROBERT ;; Presidents too …
One can only hope!
Report Post »JJCon
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 12:05amIf the only issue against this is indeed “that the poor to can not afford an ID,” then form an organization that helps the poor obtain a proper ID and/or donate to those that already do. Recklessness is not the answer it irresponsibility.
Report Post »Laus Deo
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 12:09am*Giant leap backwards for progressive douche bags.
Report Post »drattastic
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 12:13amThe ACLU is an Anti-American organization period .
Report Post »joseph Fawcett
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 12:21amNow if they can get the people on the ballot to prove they are citizens then I think things would be good all around.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 12:24amI figured the ACLU would be all over this!
Report Post »My Sacred Honor
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 12:26amBout damn time.
Report Post »My Sacred Honor
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 12:30amExcept…..do you know how easy it is for an illegal alien to obtain not only an ID, but also a social security card?
This is just a bump in the road, but at LEAST “Mickey Mouse” and “Superman” can’t vote 1,000 times in the same district.
And when will the FBI start investigating voter fraud? I reckon as soon as Holder is out, but this was rampent in the ‘06 elections under failbot bush.
Report Post »Missouri’s Sen. Claire McCaskill, anyone?
Showtime
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 12:44amEric, the problem that Georgia had with it is that “the gods” decided it would place too much of a burden on those who did not drive (they would have to pay for a picture state ID) and it was targeting “the oppressed.” We cannot even get auditable voting machines in Georgia, as required by Georgia LAW!
Report Post »BJC
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 12:49amI‘d be more than happy to send a donation to Kansas for a fund that will pay for low income people’s Birth Certificates. I’m sure if that offer was on the table the ACLU would find something else to bit ch about. It’s not about the cost of a BC. I‘d still save money in the long run if most of the illegals couldn’t vote. Look what we got in 2008.
Report Post »BurntHills
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 1:02amHooray for Kansas! real AMERICA!
Report Post »theonefromabove
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 1:14amEvery state should have it set up this way.
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Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 2:03amthe ACLU has proven to be a “giant step backwards”…why are they always on the wrong side of common sense?
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 2:47amHow will the dead vote?
Report Post »Huguenot Descendant
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 2:55amThe illegal immigrant says:
“Muchacho, I don‘t think we’re in Kansas anymore.”
Report Post »Non_Probate_Asset
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 3:28am@ Night Light.
You missed the point. It does not matter how much it would cost. Charging ANY amount of money for the right to vote is unconstitutional.
Furthermore, this whole law was passed on the assumption that Kansas had a huge voter fraud problem. Do you know how many cases of voter fraud have been prosecuted in Kansas in the last five years? One. This is a non-issue.
Report Post »NOBALONEY
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 6:01amActions like this will prevent the dead from voting, and one vote per registered voter. Do ya think the state of Illinois would ever agree to do this?
Report Post »GayDem4Beck
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 6:02amYesh, ACLU GET OVER IT – you have to have a passport to get on a cruises ship. So something as important as elections…. not that big of a deal. I think all sates should pass this law and there is proof of voter fraud, just look at the people recently convicted from Acorn.
Report Post »avenger
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 6:20amwow…what a novel idea….
Report Post »Mominfla51
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 7:24amI work for a grocery store and
Report Post »we require an ID to purchase beer and wine (if you look young) also cigarettes (again if you look too young) so what‘s wrong with checking ID’s when we vote. I love it. I have never voted without showing my ID in Fla.
Jackers
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 7:27amRight on and it’s about time! If I have to show a photo ID to check out of a Wal-Mart, all states should require photo IDs in order to vote…
To heck with the Anti-American “Civil Rights” Union… This is NOT a giant leap backwards, but a giant step forward.
Hooray for simple common sense!
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 7:49amWhy would the ACLU call this a giant leap backwards? Don’t they want elections to be fair and legal or does this communist party propaganda machine at the ACLU just want more progressive politicians in office to keep nudging us into bigger and bigger governmental systems.
Report Post »lillymckim
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 7:49amI LOVE THIS!!!
I’m asked for my ID, my Voters registration, and address in my state BEFORE I vote!
Report Post »I would love to see this law passed in every state and more importantly ….. “UPHELD”
unlike the laws we have for the illegal immigration yes … those “Federal Laws” passed and then stomped on for political gain
demint.disciple
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 7:56amTOo damn bad ACLU now the people who are thinking of moving to Kansas are on notice to bring their B.C with them if they plan to vote… Funny how the law takes effect AFTER the presidential election coming.. I guess they didn’t want to be called racists against Obama …
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:09amHooray!
It’s nice to see not every state being sucked into the abyss of no return.
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:35amSo they’re requiring proof to vote for someone on the ballot, but not to actually *be* on the ballot?
It’s a step, anyway.
Report Post »joliviah08
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 8:43amGood for you Kansas!!!!! Every state in the United States should do the same!
Report Post »Wiz001
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 9:21amI am amazed at how Az. does their voting.. Most of it is Mail in… I am not sure how they can check to see who actually made the vote.. I believe if you are going to be involved in the voting process you need to get out and vote, and show proof of who you are to be able to vote.. If you are a shut in then they could make special ballot to them and ONLY them.. I do not have much faith in fairness in their process.. EVERY VOTER SHOULD PROVIDE PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP!!!!
God Bless our Troops..
Report Post »ishka4me
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 9:24ammy town requires a photo i d. always has. should we make an aclu complaint?
Report Post »ladydi97
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 9:29am@82dAirborne
Report Post »Out of curosity I checked Missouri and Illinois (my state) costs for picture IDs. In Illinois it is a graduated cost with older folks basically getting a card for free. In fact we have graduated cost DL which I was not aware of. In Missouri the cost for a photo ID is $11. Depending on the parameters they are good for 5/6 years or for lifetime. But if I were you I’d be more worried about the voter registration app (linked from MO DL site). It asks for DL #, but if you don’t have one leave blank, asks for SS#, but if you don’t have one leave blank, it asks (an option) the city, state of birth, it asks (as an option) for daytime phone number where the applicant can be contacted if there are futher questions. Seems one does not have to have much info to get on the Missouri voting roles.
grover75
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 9:41ami live in KS and thank you Gov.Brownback, if I have to prove who i am to buy a gun, then you should have to prove who you are to vote which can do more damage the any gun
Report Post »KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 9:54amThank God there is a shred of common sense left in this country. Really, does anyone care what the hypocrites at the ACLU say? Not me! More power to real Americans!
Report Post »Class2000Generation
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 9:57amCry me a river about how much work and money it’ll cost to get your birth certificate. Being born out of the country, being adopted 2x and apparently no family or either government having the actual copy of the birth certificate ~ it cost a helluva lot more to prove that I was born to an American father and that I’ve had US citizenship since birth. The amount of $$ that cost me to locate my Certificate of Birth Abroad in order to get my passport reissued was WORTH EVERY PENNY. I‘ll respectfully pay my share to prove that I’m a US citizen. Maybe these costs will discourage illegals from voting in our country.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 10:06amI live in VA. and we have always required a picture id and if the idea adress doesn‘t match the voter registration card adress you need to bring a bill with the correct adress or you don’t vote. The entire voting system needs to be revamped to eliminate all fraud we need to build a system that’s trust worthing and tamper proof.
Report Post »Kansas Mom
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 10:13amHey Robert, We moved to Kansas from California in 2005. Both our kids have turned 16 since moving here…we had to show proof of citizenship for them to get driver’s licenses. Seriously?? who doesn’t have a copy of their birth certificate? You can’t get a passport without one or even register for sports for that matter.
Report Post »satotbs
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 10:50amFunny how a common sense law gets labeled “Controversial” but inane or destructive laws are “Commpasionate”
Report Post »VegasGuy
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 11:30amIf the ACLU is against it, then the law makes sense by default.
Report Post »its_time_to_arrest_our_government
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 11:39amits a giant leap backwards for acorn and the loony lefties no one is asked for proof of anything to be what ever just like no one checked obamas birth cretificate to be sure of his natural born citizen status. you and i got to show id everywhere. i wonder if the lefties will take a check with out id?
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 1:23pmMaybe the ACLU should complain to the states that these people were born in and have them give them FREE birth-certificates than.. what Kansas is doing IS the law.. AND the ACLU can KISS my LEGAL butt
Report Post »CincyKeith
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 2:00pmIt’s about time! Need to push for this in every state. State election, state ID, National election National ID (ie Passport, although now with the ridiculous questions they ask not sure I would want to get a passport).
Report Post »kindling
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 2:18pmI am one of those people that believes we got in this mess by letting people that do not pay income tax vote on how it is spent. That invites the problems we have today. A company would not go out and ask the public how to run that company, it asks those that have $ in that company.
Report Post »weeblewacker1
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 2:20pmreally?? voter fraud??? that is hysterical!!! does anybody here know how many people have been actuality arrested for “voter-fraud” in the past say 10 years? go ahead,look it up! the real people that are messing with the votes are the g.o.p!! been provin time after time!! all this is a another rethug gimmick to disenfranchise minorities.this is one of the new things that they come up with after there little “voter caging”scheme came to light. go check on how many legal votes have been tossed or just not counted by there games.its in the millions.
Report Post »Living in Paradise
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 2:40pmThe ACLU says that there is no evidence of voter fraud?
Report Post »Have they ever heard of ACORN?
Have they noticed who is currently residing at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue?
Have they noticed that the United States Cabinet has more crooks than many jails?
Have they noticed that their charter says that they are supposed to be concerned with
Constitutional issues?
Have they noticed that our President tells more than one lie a day?
Wake up, ACLU. Our President may soon consider you superfluous.
JJ Coolay
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 2:53pmAh… this is basically a common sense move. Why would the ACLU disapprove of this? They afraid those dead voters cant vote anymore? Or is it the illegal immigrants they’re concerned about?
Report Post »nptden
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 4:12pmThe ACLU claims it’s a burden. The real ‘burden’ is fraudulent elections that put people like Obama in office. Remember the last presidential election with ACORN and the illegals. WE should form a real Citizen Civil Liberties Union….CCLU
Report Post »Igno Ramus
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 4:34pmThe progressives will never agree to ID for voting, because that would rid them of a large portion of their base. They prefer to allow everyone to vote because they believe that they cannot be beaten at the polls if all people, especially poor and downtrodden, get to vote. They are sorely mistaken. There are many conservatives among those that the liberals believe are their sole constituents. Not all poor people are dolts. Not even all homeless people are dolts. There are even many homeless conservatives. Yes, conservatives–NOT—RINOs or liberals or progressives. We just ain’t where you are financially,l so don‘t be hatin’.
Report Post »mikem1969
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 4:37pmThe ACLU is the one that is backwards. This should be law in every state, it would almost eliminate voter fraud. Oh, but wait, the ACLU is part of the liberal progressive plan.
Report Post »Armed Patriot
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 9:47pm@ Divineliberty
The ACLU has, since its founding in 1920, been a non-Christian, socialist-communist/ humanist organization completely opposed to most of the founding concepts and moral ideals of the United States of America. The ACLU was formed by Roger Baldwin, the prime organizer – and a Unitarian socialist, with the aid of Norman Thomas, leader of the Socialist party, and Elizabeth Gurley, who would become the leader of the Communist Party in America.
This is a step backwards… for the socialist/communist take over of the USA. They have worked so hard to get us the UTOPIA we are in today.
Report Post »Armed Patriot
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 10:04pm@ 82dAirborne “A voter ID for legal citizens would have to be free to the voter. Can you imagine the mileage the left would get from voters having to pay for acceptable identification??”
That very issue has been raised by the left before, “some poor cant afford ID”. The Right came out and said OK, we will make ID free if you cant afford it. Then the left said the poor couldnt afford to go get the free ID. The right hit back and said we will go to them. The the left said that it would be demeaning and comparable to a warrantless search. Its all been played before.
You see, its not about the poor at all. Its about giving voting rights to illegal aliens. You need ID to drive a car, open a bank account, cash a check, and for any number of other legal ID requirements. In much of the country the laws requires you to carry ID at all times, either US or foreign.
Report Post »NYHuguenot
Posted on April 26, 2011 at 11:29pmI don’t understand the reluctance on this. We are trying to do the same thing here in NC. The Democrats are against it because they say it will disenfranchise Blacks and old people. When asked how you can’t get an answer. I can’t go to the doctor, get my prescription or use my credit card without showing a picture ID ie: driver’s license. The state will even pay for the ID cards for those who don’t drive having budgeted 620,000 dollars to pay for it. Are Democrats doing some illegal stuff?
Report Post »old white guy
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 6:31amanyone who votes should have a voter registration card and prove who they are with legal photo id. period. no id , no voter card, no vote.
Report Post »PA PATRIOT
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 8:48amHip Hip HORRAY
Report Post »LittleLordFauntleroy
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 12:08pmEvery voter should be registered, identified and determined not to be deceased. If you wipe out voter fraud you would wipe out the Democrat party.
Report Post »democratgirl
Posted on April 27, 2011 at 1:33pmDo we really have free elections?
Our laws say that any citizen 18 years or more can vote, but shockingly large numbers of people do not register to vote, and of those who are registered, a large percentage do not bother to vote. In fact, the United States ranks 114th in voter turnout in all elections from 1945-1998, compared with other democracies.
Why don’t people vote?
One major reason is that many voters feel that they don’t have a real choice. They feel that between the two major political parties and their candidates there generally is not too much difference.
Many Americans want an alternative. But — and here is the hitch — independents and alternative parties find the cards stacked against them. A maze of laws and regulations, varying from state to state, is like a barbed-wire fence around the polls.
Most Americans don’t know these facts about the electoral process:
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It takes 675,000 petition signatures for an independent or minor party presidential candidate to get on the ballot in all 50 states — that is 26 times the number needed by a Democratic presidential candidate.
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Requirements for a minor party candidate to get on the ballot increased tenfold from 1930 to 1980 — while the U.S. population increased only two times.
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Discriminatory filing fees hit only independent or minor party candidates.
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Sky-high signature requirements exist in many states. Examples: California — 140,149 (in 15 weeks); Oklahoma — 58,552; Maryland — 69,500; North Carolina — 43,601.
Besides these huge signature requirements, there are many obstacles to voter registration, particularly evident against Blacks and Hispanics. All of these are barriers to ballot access. They consume the limited resources of alternative parties and independents and leave them with little with which to carry on effective communication with the voting public.
When independents and minor parties do manage to get on the ballot, the major media studiously ignores them. There are no “Meet the Press” or “Face the Nation” network shows for these candidates.
Few alternative parties have access to the massive funds, private or public, to enable them to buy time in the electronic media or space in print publications to state their case to the voters. Thus, they may get on the ballot in some states, but they can’t get a broad hearing to advance their views.
An egregious example
Georgia has had fewer presidential candidates on the ballot in the last 30 years than any other state. Georgia’s state definition of “political party” is a group that receives 20% of the vote for president in the entire USA, or 20% for Governor of Georgia. No party other than the Democrats and Republicans has met that definition in Georgia since 1912 (when the Progressive “Bull Moose” Party got 27% for president in the entire USA). Even when the American Party carried Georgia in the electoral college in 1968, that sti
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