NRA Refuses to Meet With Obama on Gun Control
- Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:24pm by
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On Tuesday, officials at the Justice Department met with gun control advocates, answering President Obama’s call to put aside “stale political debates” to begin “a new discussion” on ways to better enforce and strengthen America’s existing laws in the wake of the Jan. 8 shooting in Tucson. Missing from the dialogue, however, was the National Rifle Association (NRA) who pointedly responded to the president’s invitation: thanks, but no thanks.
“Every single day, America is robbed of more futures. It has awful consequences for our society. And as a society, we have a responsibility to do everything we can to put a stop to it,” Obama wrote in an op-ed published Sunday in the Arizona Daily Star. “Now, like the majority of Americans, I believe that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to bear arms. And the courts have settled that as the law of the land. … However, I believe that if common sense prevails, we can get beyond wedge issues and stale political debates to find a sensible, intelligent way to make the United States of America a safer, stronger place.”
In an open letter (pdf) delivered to the White House Monday, Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre and Chris Cox, Executive Director of the NRA‘s Institute for Legislative Action criticized Obama’s call for a renewed dialogue on gun control and encouraged him instead to crack down on crime, not gun rights.
“[T]o focus a national dialogue on guns — and not criminals or mental health issues — misses the point entirely,” LaPierre and Cox wrote. “If you do in fact believe the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right, we suggest you demonstrate that in your policies and those of your Administration, which you have not done to tdate. Simply saying that you support the right to keep and bear arms is mere lip service if not put into action.”
“The government owes its citizens its most vigorous efforts to enforce penalties against those who violate our existing laws,” they continued. “The NRA has members proudly serving in law enforcement agencies at every level. Rank and file law enforcement wan to arrest bad people — not harass law-abiding gun owners and retailers.”
(Video: NRA News)
As the gun control debate fires up, the New York Times noted Monday how Obama‘s gun control message attempts to borrow from the NRA’s own rhetoric:
For example, a White House adviser on Monday said Mr. Obama wanted to redefine the gun debate to “focus on the people, not the guns.” The president, in his column, cited the same policy areas Mr. LaPierre mentioned as fertile ground for consensus. And Mr. Obama emphasized, “First, we should begin by enforcing laws that are already on the books” — a line long used by the gun lobby.
Mr. Obama’s column in The Arizona Daily Star reflected his continued political caution toward an issue that for decades has polarized the country. In past weeks, aides had suggested he might give a public address expanding on his views about gun safety — an option that has now been put aside.
NRA EVP and CEO Wayne LaPierre
Mr. Obama spoke at a memorial service in Tucson four days after a gunman on Jan. 8 killed six people and wounded 13, including Representative Gabrielle Giffords. But gun safety advocates, including a group of mayors headed by Michael R. Bloomberg of New York, called on Mr. Obama to do more, including endorsing legislation to ban high-capacity magazines like those used in the Arizona attack.
“Why should I or the NRA go sit down with a group of people that have spent a lifetime trying to destroy the Second Amendment in the United States?” LaPierre rhetorically asked during an interview with the Times Monday. “It shouldn’t be a dialogue about guns; it really should be a dialogue about dangerous people.”
Visiting Capitol Hill on Tuesday, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg joined congressional Democrats in announcing legislation to expand the nation’s gun background check system.
But gun control legislation may be the least of the NRA’s concerns. According to one Huffington Post report, the Obama administration is exploring ways to implement new gun control regulations through executive actions, bypassing Congress.
The Department of Justice held the first in what is expected to be a series of meetings on Tuesday afternoon with a group of stakeholders in the ongoing gun-policy debates. Before the meeting, officials said part of the discussion was expected to center around the White House’s options for shaping policy on its own or through its adjoining agencies and departments — on issues ranging from beefing up background checks to encouraging better data-sharing.
Administration officials said talk of executive orders or agency action are among a host of options that President Barack Obama and his advisers are considering. “The purpose of these discussions is to be a productive exchange of good ideas from folks across the spectrum,” one official said. “We think that’s a good place to start.”
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bassin2
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 6:17pmMr Obama wants to enforce the laws that are already on the books. What about the laws on illegal’s? I suppose this is a different law and does not need to be enforced. I would remind Mr Obama that if he does not want to fool with it we can handle it ourselves here in Arizona.
Report Post »Smoky Mountain
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 1:20pmAfter a bad opening, there is hope for the middle game. After a bad middle game there is hope for the end game. But once you are in the endgame, the moment of truth has arrived – Edmar Mednis
Excuse me but the Brown Truck has again arrived with something from Lake City and I must get to work.
Report Post »kickagrandma
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 6:16pmSo glad to see somebody with courage of convictions and a group that works for its members!
(And I’m not talking about the fake president).
Hooray for the NRA! Y-E-S!!!
Report Post »sandiem
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 6:15pmi am an advid blaze fan, this is my first post because this story makes me furious, i am going to buy a gun this weekend.
Report Post »randy
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 7:03pmJust picked up a really nice Kel-Tec PF9 :) Sweet little 9mm
Report Post »Packer-dad
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 9:54pmthen learn how to reload your own bullets
Report Post »neverending
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 6:13pmGood – then I will renew my membership.
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 6:12pmGood for the NRA, indeed. They refuse to be pushed around by our “commander and bully” or perhaps better stated, our ‘commander in deception.”
Go take another vacation, Barry. Its’ what you do best oh, wanna-be king.
Report Post »AirMotor
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 6:11pmHEAR HEAR!!! This is one of Wayne’s best!
Report Post »I only hope that if and when they come for mine, they don’t send a temp who is getting minimum wage. I would much rather deal with someone from Brady, or the like, than a guy trying desperately to support his family. Of course the second group (if they come) will be much more fun!!!
santramir
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 6:09pmmore abortion killings less defense guns?? fetuses should have colts.
Report Post »BetsyRoss1513
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 7:49amYou can bet if they did, there’s be a lot less abortion going on.
Report Post »FGWinFLA
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 6:01pmJust what we need…. Take away guns, outlaw guns and make it easier for criminals to rob people. My uncle was at an ATM. Some loser walks up behind him with a knife & demands his money. My uncle agrees to give up his cash, reaches in his coat pocket and produces a .38 snub. According to my uncle, the would be robber got a very sick look on his face & started crying and begging not to be shot. He then asked the robber to sit on the cold, wet ground while he called the police. The fellow obliged & waited to be arrested. This happened here in Florida.True story.
Report Post »912828Buckeye
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 6:00pmSure, lets have more laws to restrict the law abiding citizens and let
Report Post »the bad guys keep on breaking the new , old or any law. With all the trouble
we have in this country right now why guns? Watch the other hand.
Pattondog
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:58pmI forget the exact name for it, but what the huffintongblows was saying is the other means of by passing congress, is working with the UN, on a small arms ban\controll. which guess what. the legal gun you purchased would violate the language they are putting together.
in short, nothing more than a massive global gun control scheme, designed to register, ban and confiscate firearms from law-abiding citizens.
Report Post »I dont know about you, but, i dont recognize the UN or any foreign entity to govern any part of what i do in america. in fact i dont even own a gun…yet, but darn sure do believe you have the right to have one.
firstlast
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 6:29pmIts one of those thing i figure is better to have and not need…
Report Post »american1st
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 7:20pmA LITTLE GUN HISTORY
In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.
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China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated
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Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
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Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
Report Post »NancyBee
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 9:06am@ American1st…thanks for the info……………………..Okay America………let’s get this guy out of office………This is what our no. 1 goal should be…..we have got to get out there and get the people to vote this guy out……if our guns go….that’s it.
Report Post »obama_binpharteen
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:58pmI wonder if any of this has to do with the ATF allowing gun stores to sell to known drug cartels so they can track guns which the plan apparently backfired.
Report Post »Karzak
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:57pmObama, in response, promised to send more Black Panthers to crack down on the crime of white votes!
Report Post »VLADTEPES
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:48pmPeople like that were only aloud to play with barbie dolls, they will always be scared little wimps.Try and take mine..
Report Post »Soros_is_the_Devil
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:46pmNRA should have sent Uncle Ted in their place… that would have made it a memorable meeting!
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 7:44amAgreed, Ted Nugent articulates gun rights as well as anyone and he does it with a smile on his face.
Report Post »twofoot_trucker
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:45pmI suppose “…shall not be infringed,” is a bit to complex for politicians. When it comes to this administration in particular, the stance of the NRA is correct.
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:45pmHow about the government quit letting gun stores selling to people that they know that are going to take the guns south of the border. How about that. I believe those guns were the ones that killed the agent in Mexico. If you want to see my weapons I will show one little piece of them. Nobody needs to see them or know that I have them. Start enforcing laws on the books and quit letting illegal immigrants go. That would help out a lot.
Report Post »JP4JOY
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:56pmJust last week there was a piece about how many of the interviewed gun shop owners had reported to the ATF about volume purchasers and ALL of them were told to sell the guns by the Homeland Security people. There are many Barrett 50cal sniper rifles that went south with OUR government’s blessings.
Report Post »FLyoverman
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:43pmThe best way to protect the First Amendment is by protecting the Second Amedment.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 6:31amThe 2nd Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignorethe rest of them………
Report Post »BQI
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:43pmBRAVO….NRA
Conservative Blog: http://www.blackquillandink.com
Report Post »Bigliardi
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 8:29pmI don’t much care for Wayne LaPierre, one never knows where he stands on things; especially lately..but this was a good move on the part of the NRA….
Report Post »macombman
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:43pmWithout guns could we possibly have a cowboy poetry festival?
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr9Vhpvrg5U
338lapua
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:41pmIt is time to crack down on liberals. The second amendment is clear.
Report Post »Tnredneck
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 7:01pmI agree 338. And you bet oboma understands this and won’t bother with congress to try to change the law. All he needs is a major crisis to declare Marshall law and then you can kiss gun rights goodbye….. Or so he thinks……
Report Post »archimedes00
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 1:43am“A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. ”
Report Post »The brilliance of our founding fathers is clear in this amendment. The British took to confiscating weapons from us before we won our freedom. Our founding fathers wrote this amendment not just so we can protect ourselves from bears and other predators, but also so that we could protect ourselves from our own government if the day and need should arise.
NC
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:40pmBravo for the NRA.
I’ve always thought the best way to control gun violence is to put a waiting period on purchasing ammunition. The old saying of “if they outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns” is true, and many bad people have guns.
With the control of ammunition sales, there might be a reduction in drive by shootings and bad people purchasing ammo that own unregistered/stolen firearms.
Report Post »NC (ducking for cover)
JP4JOY
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 6:03pmDon’t be too sure of that. In Finland you are only allowed to own 300 rounds of ammunition, period. If you want to buy more ammo you HAVE to bring in the old brass, no exceptions! That’s not per gun, that’s the total allotment per person.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:37pmTalking to Obumma about gun control is like asking the Octomom about planned parenthood.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 6:11pmTalking to Obama about gun-control is like talking to Micheal Moore about arugula salad
Report Post »docgreen
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:33pmInstead of cracking down on Guns, and Gun Owners, they need to Crack down on Drug users, and Sellers! Maybe this would be a start!…. It seems to me they want to punish the people living by the Gun Laws, not the True Criminals! Ones that steal for drug money, and end up using the guns in robberies, and gang realated violence! Start there instead of taking my rights away! I live by the Laws! Start with Obama‘s Gang Banger Friend’s!….. Also We need to stop listening to the UN!
Report Post »nothingbuthetruth
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 7:34pmI understand that on the border they are allowing guns to be passed over, non stop to find who ends up with them. But they are not only allowing some, they are allowing a whole bunch and the people ordered to do this by this administration are now starting to raise some questions and are concerned at the amount they are letting go across the border.
Report Post »Ballgame
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:33pm“Out of my dead cold hands”
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 6:02pm“However, I believe that if common sense prevails, we can get beyond wedge issues and stale political debates to find a sensible, intelligent way to make the United States of America a safer, stronger place.”
Yeah, and if Obama REALLY wanted to “find a sensible, intelligent way to make the United States of America a safer, stronger place,” he would SECURE OUR BORDERS!!!
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 6:16pm“However, I believe that if common sense prevails, we can get beyond wedge issues and stale political debates to find a sensible, intelligent way to make the United States of America a safer, stronger place.”
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Translation from libberish :
However I have been ordered to crush the Costitutional rights of law-abiding American citizens so that USA can be destroyed by my masters and my goons.
Now watch my swing
SparkyDeco
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 6:20pmAs if there isn‘t anything else to worry about in the good ole’ USA these days…..this man is supposed to be intelligent? To save his own hide I would think he would stay MILES away from any gun control debate….this would surely drive the last few nails in the new socialist revolution!?
As for me.(CCW license carrying red blooded American) I agree! Just try to come and take my second amendment right from me! You’ll get them 185 grains of lead at a time!
And Showtime……he CAN’T secure the borders! Where else do you think he will get the votes for 2012? LOL…sad….not funny really due to the reality of the situation…..
Report Post »I-HATE-THE-WORD-DISENFRANCHISE
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 1:01amMy first Amendment is only guarantied by my second!
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 1:12amObama.
“However, I believe that if common sense prevails, we can get beyond wedge issues and stale political debates to find a sensible, intelligent way to make the United States of America a safer, stronger place.”
What he really thought while saying this.
However, I believe that if people who cling to their guns and God had any common sense they would give up their rights so I could prevail over Capitalism and institute a pure socialist agenda. We can get beyond the 2nd amendment and the founding principles, those ideas are nothing but old stale political debates that have no place in my socialist utopia. If you Americans would just be sensible and as intelligent as me and my progressive friends we could make the United States of America safe from you crazy conservatives.
Report Post »Kaen
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:29pmThe only discussion any real American should have with Comrade Obama’s socialist regime is…”Are you willing to come take it?”
Report Post »Quagaar Warrior
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:33pm~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Report Post »My NRA dues at work. BRAVO NRA!!!
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cheezwhiz
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:34pmcriticized Obama’s call for a renewed dialogue on gun control and encouraged him instead to crack down on crime, not gun rights.
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What ? Crack down on crime ?
Obama can’t crack down on his people ..watunuts ?
bikerr
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:38pmGood for the NRA! They don’t need the prez all in there face trying to hoodwink people into thinking he is for us Gun rights people.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:38pmAccording to one Huffington Post report, the Obama administration is exploring ways to implement new gun control regulations through executive actions, bypassing Congress.
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This is what democracy looks like
Gita
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:39pm@Kaen ditto here!
Report Post »leftiesaredangerous
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:40pmThe left won‘t be happy until we’re unarmed completely. Then we’ll be even easier to control, which is their ultimate goal.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:41pmVisiting Capitol Hill on Tuesday, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg joined congressional Democrats in announcing legislation to expand the nation’s gun background check system.
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Yeah
Lets have a gun-control czar.
I nominate Sheriff Dipstick
HillBillySam1
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:42pmThe Obama Administration states that they want to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and pyschotic people……unfortunately, they don’t like to differentiate between those folks and “common sense” Americans……
CatB
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:44pmLIfetime NRA member HERE … Good call guys .. Second Ammendment rules.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:45pm@ Cheez … yes .. but we are a Republic (yes I know YOU know!) .. but we are looking like a “democracy” with mob rule from the White House.
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:47pmObama is allowing Mexico to move its’ border farther and farther north….encroaching upon Arizonians! We have Arizona land that is no longer “safe” for our citizens to travel…So……..if you want our guns…you come on down and “TRY en git em’!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:47pmHillBillySam1
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:42pm
The Obama Administration states that they want to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and pyschotic people……unfortunately, they don’t like to differentiate between those folks and “common sense” Americans……
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Actually that is what they call “common sense AMERICANS .. look how they treat the NON-VIOLENT TEA Party! As opposed to the pass they give the VIOLENT UNIONS.
Report Post »LAM2
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:47pm“But gun control legislation may be the least of the NRA’s concerns. According to one Huffington Post report, the Obama administration is exploring ways to implement new gun control regulations through executive actions, bypassing Congress.”
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Modus operandi — the Obama Administration as a functional dictatorship — if it can’t be accomplished the proper way, via Congress (the people), they simply do it by fiat (executive order). Congress — stop allowing this administration to make you irrelevant. Pass your own legislation in this area and/or strip funding such that these executive orders cannot be implemented.
Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:51pmIt’s a trap. Don’t meet with the enemy.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:52pmObama and his cronies understand if we lose the firearms liberty we have, and all are taken from us, then nothing remains to save the people from the man who declared he wants to be a dictator.
Report Post »tenring
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:54pmMolon Labe!
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 6:09pmKaen
Report Post »The only discussion any real American should have with Comrade Obama’s socialist regime is…”Are you willing to come take it?”
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The only discussion any real American should have with Comrade Obama is…
” Would you like your orange jumpsuit to have a flap in the back ? “
A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 6:10pmLet’s not forget that the NRA was silent when they could have testified against Elena Kagan during her confirmation hearings.
NRA Issues Gag Order to Its Board Members on Elena Kagan
Report Post »http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/06/27/nra-issues-gag-order-to-its-board-members-on-elena-kagan/
DeadFred
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 6:18pmAbsolutely……that’s all that needs to be said.
Report Post »nothingbuthetruth
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 6:18pmObama while on the Joyce foundation redistibuted 24 million to help take away our second ammendment right. Obama nominated and was successful in getting two anti gun ownership advocates on the supreme court with Miss Sotamaye lying when asked specific questions about gun control and the first chance she got voted against our rights. Obama while he was a guest lecturer at columbia or one of those school, told a professor there that he doesnt believe people should own guns. How many pro second ammendment believers voted for and contnue to vote for democrats??? Wake up. He is just one supreme court justice away from taking our rights away. Just one!!!
Report Post »BMartin1776
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 6:19pmBe nice if more would just not show up and send a clear message to this JOTUS(Joke of the US). BHO will never touch the 2nd Amendment he has made it abundantly clear but he will regulate the heck out of gunowners in America.
So I commend the NRA for doing what they did but would have been nice for them to challenge him on the regs in place restricting gun owners. I can have a a gun but cant go anywhere with it. The 2nd is the law of the land yet states through regs limit what we can do? How is it a Fed law like Obamacare is a must across the country for everyone but the 2nd is not. How can the govt regulate everyone must have health insurance and tell states they have no say yet allow them to have a say with gun rights?! Isnt the 2nd as much the law of the land as O-care? So I have to worry about some nut who has no respect for the law opening fire someday in a bank, restaurant, park, whatever and hoping I find cover for myself and family b/c Im not allowed to carry my gun.
Enforcing the laws on the books will never happen as it makes too much sense and keeping those animals on the streets justify the demand for new laws and regs. If the 2nd is the law of the land like Ocare then its my permit to carry?? http://www.savingtherepublic.com
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 6:21pmThe main reason the Second Amendment was written WAS NOT because of personal safety from the criminals in society, but because of the fear of the potential for government to become corrupt.
The Second Amendment recognizes the right of each individual to have the capacity to kill those in government who would infringe on our unalienable rights.
Bill of Rights
“THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.”
Report Post »nothingbuthetruth
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 6:22pmThanks Dr. Labor…. I printed it off and will be bringing to a NRA meeting I will be attending.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 6:24pmYou can never have a good deal with a bad guy, avoid Obama
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 6:34pm@A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right:
“Let’s not forget that the NRA was silent when they could have testified against Elena Kagan during her confirmation hearings.
NRA Issues Gag Order to Its Board Members on Elena Kagan
Report Post »http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/06/27/nra-issues-gag-order-to-its-board-members-on-elena-kagan/
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Good show! You have a mind like a steel trap! Thanks for the reminder!
Shoot-To-Kill
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 6:47pm@nothingbuthetruth
Report Post »Taking our rights away is a far cry from taking our guns. Come take my guns Obammer I dare ya!
broker0101
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 6:56pmKAEN, the answer is a deafening, “YES”. Obama is the CIC. Any idea what that means?
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 7:08pmWhy is the sharia financier Bloominidiot jumping into this ? Doesn’t he have some pot-holes to fill in NYC ?
Report Post »If he wants to be on national stage, he should first win a national office.
BTW, just for your reading pleasure, read Obama’s intent to take our constitutional rights to favor his people a k a criminals in both USA and mehico ,
bumped with this gem :
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/illinois-attorney-general-demands-release-of-all-gun-owners-names/
TexasCommonSense
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 7:30pmbroker0101, the Constitution is the supreme law of the land. Any idea what that means?
Report Post »beekeeper
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 7:32pmThe police refused to refer the shooter for a psychotic evaluation.
The Army failed to refer the shooter for a psychiatric evaluation.
His own family failed to take the shooter for a psychiatric evaluation.
His college refused to refer the shooter for a psychiatric evaluation.
How would a background check have stopped him from getting a gun?
He had a drug use conviction, and failed a drug test when he attempted to enlist in the Army.
Drug convictions don’t take away your second amendment right.
President Obama is pulling out a decisive issue, making ludicrous claims, and hoping to remind right-leaning Dems and Independants that he is for gun control.
Let‘s not forget when the Gov’t tried to take every legally-owned gun in New Orleans after Katrina, making those who registered their guns as vulnerable as non-gun owners…
Was that what President Obama means by ‘commonsense’ gun control measures?
Report Post »VegasGuy
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 7:32pmThis is Obama’s Plan B. His Plan A was to order the ATF to allow the sales of guns to Mexican drug cartels in order to create a “serious crisis” so he could “fix” it by clamping down on all gun sales. Remember Obama was also claiming US guns were ending up in the hands a Mexican drug dealers? Well, duh! That’s what they wanted to happen!
http://thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/crime/6597-atf-agent-ordered-to-let-us-guns-into-mexico
Fortunately for us an agent with honor who still loves America became a whistle blower and exposed Obama’s plan.
Report Post »SHTFMRadio.com -- Emergency Preparedness Radio Show
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 7:35pmI am so tired of every time you turn around some one is trying to pass a bill for something else, it is like all they want to do is keep you in this PANIC bubble it is really getting out of hand.
Report Post »Beckofile
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 8:02pmHide them and make sure you don’t have registered ones. Don’t get a conseal carry because they will know who to confiscate first. Make sure to have bullets and clips. Don’t play the game on their terms. Be safe and only use if life is threatened. Be safe
Report Post »Kaen
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 8:21pm@Broker…not going to get into it with you again…you’re a moron and bore me endlessly…
Report Post »nosycophant
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 9:09pmI have no guns but I am a lifetime member now eleven years.
Report Post »nosycophant
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 9:13pmRead your own column Obozo, nice try.
Report Post »My Sacred Honor
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 9:44pmOf COURSE Obama wants to start the debate on gun control! It (the second amendment) is the ONLY thing standing between NWO and this administration, and the total control of the US population!
Report Post »Let me tell you people. NEVER let them take your guns, lest you become slaves!
The second amendment, and the House of Representatives’ right to call and train and arm the militia are the ONLY way America is going to survive!
I cannot stress this enough…“from my cold dead hands” is your way to ensure your children’s, and this Nation’s future!
My Sacred Honor
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 9:54pmcheezwhiz
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 5:38pm
According to one Huffington Post report, the Obama administration is exploring ways to implement new gun control regulations through executive actions, bypassing Congress.
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This is what democracy looks like
No, this is what dictatorship looks like.
Report Post »Dictatorship
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 12:41amFreedom to defend our country– target practice on the borders.
Report Post »Guns are the last right taken before Dictatorship.
flagman texas marine
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 12:51amI the WH (obama) try gun control by executive order they will start a war
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 1:15amThere is NOTHING GOOD that could come from any such meeting with Obama.
http://www.americasteapartynews.com
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 1:22amKaen
Posted on March 15, 2011 at 8:21pm
@Broker…not going to get into it with you again…you’re a moron and bore me endlessly…
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Smart move. broker is not worth the time.
http://tinyurl.com/4rv8xsm
Report Post »ratroy2014
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 1:54amwell said
Report Post »thegrassroots
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 2:34amI Am A Proud Member Of The NRA! Good Slap-Down To the-pretender-In-chief, Wayne!
Obama’s Not Worthy To Even Tip-Toe Near The Shadow Of The NRA! You Don’t Belong, pseudo-potus! OUT!
Report Post »Mikeyyy
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 2:57amObama hey hey hey goodbye!! He is gonna be so one and done if he publicly starts making gun control part of his agenda. Keep it up Obama, I luv it!
Report Post »SonOfaCommunist
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 3:07amThe 2nd Amendment is my permit/license! I fear every government! You should too!
Report Post »Mikeyyy
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 3:35amObama can control my XDM after he pries it out of my cold dead hand.
Report Post »Thatsitivehadenough
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 4:17amI was never a gun advocate, but since Obama has been in office I’ve been receiving an enormous education on just why Americans need to not only hold on to their guns, but more people need to consider getting guns and learning how to use them.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 5:53amAnother power grab by the Low-Life commie Chicago union thug. Thanks to the NRA for telling the charlatan to go _____ himself. If he worried about crime he should deport his voter base that accounts for 95% of the crime in this country! The money savings would take from bleeding red to the black overnight.
Report Post »avenger
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 6:21amgun control is a “quigley.”….see “top shot”eliminates two terrorists with one bullet ! now people, that is real gun control….
Report Post »1chancey1
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 6:22amI’m still waiting for the truth on Operation Gunrunner and accountability for the unnecessary death of Agent Terry.
Report Post »HUGGINGMYBABIES
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 7:06amAnd when the guns are gone they will build bombs…..spot on NRA, kudos for standing strong and pointing out the real issue.
Report Post »daavidruth93
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 7:13amHere we go again, another good reason to impeach him before there is nothing left of Our Great Nation!!!!!!
BlueStrat
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 7:36amGovernments historically always seek to disarm their citizens, and the larger a government grows, the more effort it expends to that end.
My father and many tens of thousands of others risked their life and were wounded/killed in WW2 (my father was wounded fighting Rommel’s forces in N. Africa), enduring and experiencing things only those who were there can comprehend, to ensure my freedoms which include the Second Amendment.
Anyone who attempts to disarm me in the course of trying to remove my Second Amendment rights will pay a high price, indeed. There are plenty of legal firearms available that can easily make Swiss-cheese of 1-inch military armor-plate and body armor. My favorite is the one my father had Sharpshooter and Marksman certifications for, and the one he carried into combat against the Nazis…the B.A.R (Browning Automatic Rifle). Quoting my father, the B.A.R. is; “The next-best thing to a Ma Deuce when the s*** hits the fan.” (“Ma Deuce” = M2 -.50-cal fixed-emplacement/crew-served & vehicle/aircraft-mounted heavy machine-gun).
Report Post »Dont.Tread.On.Me
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 7:37am“Persians!…Come, and get them!”
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 8:21amI all but gave up on the NRA… new respect found. Also, SAF (Second amendment foundation) is the next up and coming force to be reckoned with. They are the first group to REALLY fight the stupid and unconstitutional gun laws in NJ!
Report Post »Uncle Crusty
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 8:22amTo quote an icon “From my cold dead hands”, enough said!
Report Post »Goldmember
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 8:37amJust goes to show what an intelligent conservative can do with words. Come and get em!
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 8:52amSomething strange about this… neither the NRA nor, and especially, the dotgov really understand what the words, “Shall not be infringed” mean. GOA asked to be invited to this dance- and even named the tune they’d dance to- “Let’s talk about GunWalker…” If the NRA was seriously interested in enforcing the Second, they’d also find more ways than to tell hussein-o to get his ferking hands off our Constitution.
Report Post »Mike Westfall No Hiding
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 8:53amThe NRA has been infected by Progressives. Wayne La Pierre is to blame as its leader. In the last election, it was the NRA who supported Harry Reid as the senate Candidate from Nevada. The excuse they used was that Harry Reid had built a state of the art gun range in the state as proof of his support. Harry Reid has one of the worst records voting for gun rights. Wayne La Pierre is merely taking a stance for show. HE IS IN FACT WORKING WITH OBAMA BY HIS “NO SHOW.” By not showing there will be no moderation of proposed gun control by Obama’s liberal elite cohorts. If he was at least in the dicussion, he could at least pull back any new proposals by his presence and gather facts to mount an effective campaign against whatever proposals come forth. Obama’s message of focusing on “the people” will set out a big list of qualifications a person must prove to obtain a gun, purchase ammo/supplies, etc… This will have virtually the same effect as outright ban on guns.
I used to be a NRA member but left as soon as Wayne La Pierre began to show his true colors. I am proud to say today that I’m no longer a member. I would reinstate if the organization went back to its basic principles of the 2nd amendment. That can only start when Wayne La Pierre loses his job.
Report Post »robin.kevin
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 9:00amI agree… what does gun control really do? It keeps the good lawful people from protecting ourselves and others from bad unlawful people. Its against the murder someone correct? So if they are going to break THAT law whats going to stop them from breaking firearm laws? Its common sense…
Report Post »EP46
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 9:03amGun Registration is just to give the government a list of who & where to go get the legal guns…leaving only the criminals with guns.
He want to REWARD states who keep better info…sounds like ‘We will pay you to tell us where the guns are”
Obama does not know a FIGHT until he takes on gun owners!
Report Post »ishka4me
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 9:14amtelling you people: guns, ammunition, whiskey and cigarettes are the next gold.
Report Post »Libertyluvnmomma
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 9:14amLet’s experiment. Let the Secret Service work without guns and see how it goes.
Report Post »Phantom2487
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 9:14amThey will never take the guns away, just the optics, trigger assemblies, magazines, basically narrow us down to an environment that is total crap in contrast to now.
Report Post »StonyBurk
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 9:39amLaPierre obviously has read where it says Be ye not unequally yoked with unbelievers . I applaud him for being too busy for beer and a photo op with the Pres on the Lawn I cant recall an American President that so loved showing off his golf and beer drinking.
Report Post »AzCowboy
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 9:52amCommon Sense, Sensible and Intelligent conversation. How can Owhatshisface be involved in that??
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jakartaman
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 9:52amJust shows the moral fortitude and intelligence of the NRA!
Report Post »heavllyarmed
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 10:06amkeep our eyes on Hillary, she the ones really tring to take them
Report Post »Sinista MACE
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 10:10amExcellent post, Kaen.
Do they REALLY want it?
I mean, do they REALLY REALLY WANT IT?
Well, I’m gonna give it to ya!
Here it comes….
Report Post »weeblewacker1
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 10:24amthis is the exact reason why i turned in my life-time n.r.a. membership.they have evolved into something thats just a money sucking machine for the people that run it.take about the unions being thugs,money-grubers,ect,ect, they are mild compaired to the n.r.a.they used to be a fine organization,but somehow,somewhere, they changed.it’s too bad.at my last family reunion, almost every one of my cousins,uncles have done the same thing,turned in there membership to the n.r.a. for the same reasons too! so i know that i’m not the only one that feels this way.
Report Post »ishka4me
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 11:27amhow about money and spending control?
Report Post »exdem
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 1:04pmI guess the NRA is one group not willing to make a deal with the Devil.
Report Post »exdem
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 2:25pm@WEEBLEWHACKER
Report Post »Sounds like you come from a long line of weeblewhackers.
I dont have a gun but I belong and pay my dues proudly.
We’re gonna need NRA when Hussein declares his dictatorship.
USAMama
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 2:42pmThis President thinks he is a King, he does everything by decree, er, “Executive Order”. He thinks he can just single handedly write laws any time he wants. I, for one, am SICK AND TIRED of it!! He does not respect our government system at all!!
Report Post »michael48
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 2:50pmif you deal with Comrade Omama…I DON’T deal with YOU…I’ve had all the DEM-COM crap I can take…now the Wis. Union Police Thugs won’t protect CITIZENS…not going to let Obango take away the ability to PROTECT MY FAMILY from the DEM-WITS…spin it as you wish…
Report Post »jtmfc
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 3:42pmWhen are Americans going to wake up to the fact that Obama and his Tsars; are taking away our rights,along with everything we hold dear? He has made Congress irrelevant by using executive orders. Where the congressmen? 100 Senators plus 435 House members cost the USA a bundle., while they sit on their hands. We may as well fire them all, and save the money we pay for their salaries, BIG benefits, their staff, cars, and offices in DC and the several offices they keep in their home states. What the Hell, they are asking for it, by not standing up to Obama and his shredding our Constitution and our country’s moral fiber. What are they waiting for?? Remember the old typewriting exercise—-” NOW IS THE TIME FOR ALL GOOD MEN TO COME TO THE AID OF THEIR COUNTRY?” I don’t think the country can wait until 2012 to end the present destruction taking place in the USA.
Report Post »Delicaterose65
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 4:55pmThanks Be to God for the NRA standing in the way of Obamadinajad.
Report Post »old white guy
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 6:03pmsooner or later they will try and take guns from everyone. the question is not whether they will but will you shoot anyone who tries to take your gun. today laws are being written that create a crime where there was no crime and someone who was not a criminal is now a criminal. you will have to kill your local cop, your neighbour, anyone who tries to enforce such laws. can you, will you?
Report Post »101
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 7:06pm.
Charlton Heston “From My Cold Dead Hands.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ju4Gla2odw
Report Post »jeepkid99
Posted on March 16, 2011 at 9:09pmas a vet i’m appalled at what our government is doing do us, my service was (and is) to the constitution and my fellow citizens.
Report Post »here’s a kick in the head for you all, at the VA hospital today i was told that i can not bring a weapon on VA property; think about it, you can die for your country,but don’t even think about bringing a self defense tool on their land! the excuse i was given is that we don’t want some mentally deranged vet getting their hands on a gun, when i came back with”so you let people who may be a danger to themselves or others roam free?” & “i’m the 1st line of my own self defense”-answer: deafening silence and “where is the defense force since i can’t defend myself“ answer ”we don’t have one”
people don’t pay any attention to these posts critical of the NRA, they‘re liars just like ’totus’!! they find something on the internet, stupid trolls believe it!
anyone that advocates taking any one God given (or natural if you prefer) right, doesn’t hold freedom dear(you shall know them by their fruits)can you say tories?). and my answer to them is “get the funk out!”
Mil Mom
Posted on March 17, 2011 at 12:53amModus operandi — the Obama Administration as a functional dictatorship — if it can’t be accomplished the proper way, via Congress (the people), they simply do it by fiat (executive order). Congress — stop allowing this administration to make you irrelevant. Pass your own legislation in this area and/or strip funding such that these executive orders cannot be implemented.
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I’m rather fond of the legislation that says ALL ABLE BODIED CITIZENS SHALL CARRY A GUN!
watchtheotherhand
Posted on March 17, 2011 at 10:21amSeems the NCAA is not the only event where a slam dunk is making the highlight reel !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »NickOhMan
Posted on March 17, 2011 at 12:56pmI agree, the only thing to make America safer is Open Carry Laws for all 50 states. Crime rates will fall dramatically.
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