Nudge: DOA To Use ‘Food Behavior Scientists’ to Modify Kids’ Eating Habits
- Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:31pm by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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Federal officials are turning to psychology in a new approach to get kids to choose healthier foods in the school lunch line.
The U.S. Department of Agriculture announced today it is giving $2 million to food behavior scientists to use marketing tricks to encourage kids to pick fruits and veggies over cookies and french fries.
Some of the ideas include hiding chocolate milk behind plain milk, putting the salad bar near checkout, placing fruit in pretty baskets and accepting only cash as payment for desserts.
Another idea suggests using pre-paid cards that only allow students to purchase healthy options from the school cafeteria.
Studies by Cornell University researchers have found these tactics work, the Associated Press reports, and Cornell will start a new child nutrition center to test more of these methods.
According to a release on the DOA’s website, the Cornell-based research center will be called the Center for Behavioral Economics in Child Nutrition Programs. The money will also fund 14 other research projects in Connecticut, Iowa, Louisiana, Minnesota, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Texas, Utah, West Virginia, and Wisconsin.
The release outlines the reasoning behind the funding as well: leaving choices to schools, students, and parents is not the way to ensure students make “healthful choices.” Good intentions, it explains, often do not translate into good choices:
[I]t is well recognized that understanding the value of a healthy diet does not always translate into healthy choices. Research has shown that good intentions may not be enough: when choosing what or how much to eat, we may be unconsciously influenced by how offers are framed, by various incentives, and by such factors as visual cues.
“This research can suggest practical, cost-effective ways that the school environment can better support healthful choices,” the release adds.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Comments (389)
maxstout
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:15pmMight as well let the Fed dictate diet because the poor little kid‘s parents don’t care. That’s why taxpayers foot the bill for:
Report Post »- Before school care (ill parents dump kids off to school on bus)
- Busing (forced integration) How much fuel does this waste?
- Free Breakfast programs (ill parents don’t care enough to fed own kids)
- Free Lunch Program (see above)
- Free SUMMER lunch program (because ill parents won’t feed their kids when they are out of school)
- Free after school care
- Free nursery care for 15 year old moms to bring their babies to school
It all boils down to IRRESPONSIBLE PARENTS!!!!
Single moms with 5 kids and no daddy (does anybody know the definition of bastard or does nobody care what one is) on gov assisted housing and food relief (emphasis on RELIEF for which the program was designed) not lifetime dependancy on food stamps. These same broke ass, eternally pregnant moms spend their money on wigs, fingernails, 22″ rims, IPods, and gawdy clothing while I pay for their gov aid programs. I just paid $932.81 in school taxes for the year.
PubliusPencilman
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:45pmAnd your solution would be….
Report Post »Let the children suffer for their parents’ irresponsibility, so they have to drop out of school and grow up to be drug dealers and irresponsible parents themselves?
All so you can save a few hundred bucks. That’s some fine patriotism you got there.
spendthrift
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 3:01pmWell put…..
Report Post »maxstout
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 3:37pmHEY PENCILPUSHER.
Report Post »Please list your detailed plan to get these children out of their plight!
RobertCA
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 5:10pmMax don’t waste your time with that wannabe PENCIL .
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 7:35pmNo, I don’t have a detailed plan, but extra childcare and subsidised lunches help. It’s better than giving up on them, which seems to be what you want to do.
Report Post »dusanmal
Posted on October 13, 2010 at 12:17pm@publiuspencilman there is a tested middle ground here. NYC in 1990′s linked welfare to actual pubic work done by recipients. This have improved all aspects of the issue. Protect kids but get something back from the parents in exchange … plenty of tasks within the school system (and monetary savings if those are done for the part of the assistance program) and possibility of engaging the parents, the best part of it.
Report Post »TheBloodOfTyrants
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:13pmI love how they‘re pushing this issue so hard that they’re willing to invade our children’s schools with government psych doctors. Yet, you should see the school fundraiser my daughter just brought home. NOTHING but food! Overpriced, crap food that I could buy at Wal-Mart, if I wanted. Cookies, pizza, candy, pies. The “healthiest” thing in the whole brochure was a sausage-n-crackers platter. Friggin hypocrites. Not that I expected any different. Michelle Obama needs to get her own fat arse off the sofa and out of OUR White House!
Report Post »2smart
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:12pmWhat agriculture does the Dept. of Agriculture produce? None, zero, nada this department only exists to issue rules. Some may be good but I would bet that the majority are issued to reward some group because they contributed to the administration in office. I would also bet that about 90% of the department could be done without and the balance combined with the Department of the Interior.
Report Post »RobertCA
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:09pmGovernment wants to take parent‘s role as like parents don’t know much , remember how Al Gore said to the kids your parents don’t know , it’s the same thing with Nazi Germany when they took over they said to the youth ” do not listen to your parents , they don’t know “
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:39pmOh yeah, it’s like Nazi Germany…. How stupid do you have to be? Do you really expect people to listen to what you have to say when you make such ridiculous statements?
Report Post »toworreed2sleep
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 3:34pmFor you, that statement may be stupid, but it‘s only because you haven’t seen the whole picture yet. So you aren’t worried about them deciding HOW to influence our children? And you don’t see the problem with them even DISCUSSING this issue?
Report Post »Yes, it may sound extreme, but if you look at all the little things they are doing to chip away at our freedom of choice… then you could see that this is not too far fetched.
PubliusPencilman
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 3:41pmIt‘s a friggin’ school! Of course they try to influence children! They have to educate them! That’s the entire principle behind the school, whether it’s the federal government or the local community or the Catholic church behind it. Public education has been around for a long long time, and if you don’t like it, send your kids to private school or homeschool them.
Report Post »Just quit the Nazi Germany BS. It’s insulting to those who have ever actually suffered under the yoke of a totalitarian regime. For them, the choice of regular milk or chocolate milk was not the most pressing concern.
tmarends
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 4:41pmExactly right. It’s the small little things that we HAVE to be worried about because they soon grow into BIG things. Anyone in the DC area should visit the Holocaust Museum — especially the Nazi Propaganda exhibit.
Report Post »RobertCA
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 4:42pm@ PUBLIUSPENCIL….whatever . I didn’t say that our Government is Nazi , I’m just giving an example you stupid ignorant moron & if the Nazi word is bothering you so much you can change it from that to Communist regime , is that better for you now ?
Report Post »Go back & put your head on the pillow & wait for the Government to tell you what to eat & when to eat & how to eat for you & your children & wait for the food stamps & welfare & drink your Kool Aid .
Go back to sleep thinking ( if you have some brain left ) that it’s ok for a President to say ” there’s a fundamental change coming & it’s ok to share wealth “
caitlynsdad
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 7:10pm@RobertCA
Report Post »My own experience with PubPen is that he has difficulty with examples. He confuses the example with the point. You really have to hold his hand through every sentence and say, “Now what I mean by this is.”
PubliusPencilman
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 7:33pmCaitlynsDad, I am glad at least that you can put together a support group for all those that I have terrorized. For the record, examples are one thing, but the comparison with Nazi Germany is a very particular case, and is exceptionally stupid. You just hate it when I hold people responsible for what they say, and don’t let them get away with unthinking goobledy ****, don’t you.
Report Post »caitlynsdad
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 7:54pm@PP
Report Post »I think the comparison that Robert of CA was making was a comparison of kind, not of degree. Are these distinctions really so hard for you to make? I thought it was the conservative mind that was supposed to be unappreciative of nuance. Another liberal myth exploded.
RobertCA
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 9:12pm@ PENCIL wannabe , CAITLYNSDAD is not putting together any support group , trust me you‘re the last thing we’re gonna worry about . CAITLYNSDAD & others got my example BUT you & it’s so weird to see that in all your posts you have problems with everybody , you are right & everybody else is wrong & by calling people names it’s not gonna help your case either .
Report Post »You got this or not , I’m not gonna translate English to your IQ level .
PubliusPencilman
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 9:23pmNo, you’re right. People who appreciate nuance compare everything to Nazi Germany. That makes perfect sense. The again, if we don’t care at all about degree, then what isn’t like Nazi Germany? Glenn Beck up in front of a big crowd talking about national honor! Nazi Germany! RINO hunting, trying to restore the ideological purity of the party. Nazi Germany! As you say in a post above, you enjoy “fatty and greasy German food with sauerkraut and beer.” You’re a Nazi!
You see. Doesn’t this get tiresome?
Report Post »caitlynsdad
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 9:29pm@Robert
Report Post »Yes, you need to understand Pencil’s MO. His MO is to take a very straightforward post, misinterpret it to mean something far afield of its actual meaning, receive clarification, and then protest that he’s really just trying to hold people accountable for their imprecise thinking.
caitlynsdad
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 9:33pmPublius aptly asks: Doesn’t this get tiresome?
Yes, you do.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 10:18pmWas I not straightforward enough in my last post?
Report Post »RobertCA
Posted on October 13, 2010 at 12:01am@ Pencil wannabe
Report Post »You need to learn some history , oops sorry my bad I forgot about your IQ , ask someone to teach you some history ( may GOD help them with that ) & don‘t bring Glenn Beck in this he didn’t post any comments about this story .
caitlynsdad
Posted on October 13, 2010 at 1:09am@Publius
Report Post »No, you were clear–it‘s just that I can’t really speak for why Robert of CA chose the Nazi illustration; I‘m sure you’d agree I’ve never made one in any of my own posts. I was merely hazarding a guess as to the character of the comparison, in contradistinction to your misreading of it. Since it‘s the only time you’ve ever misread anything, I figured it might provide some modest enlightenment. For the record, the German food I incline toward has been passed down from generation to generation through my family since they first came to America from Germany, 100 years before the Nazis. Don‘t want you to think I’m about to do anything untoward like try out for a role in battle re-enactments. (I know; you were just being facetious to make a point. See, you can do that too. So difficult to understand why it’s a problem for you when I do so. Perhaps liberals think they have a monopoly on facetiousness in the same way they think they have a monopoly on virtue. But I digress.)
PubliusPencilman
Posted on October 13, 2010 at 7:09amHow exactly did I misread the comparison? As I have said before, I know it would comfort you to think that I just don‘t know how to read or that I just don’t get it, but unfortunately, that’s not the case.
Maybe you should spend some time helping RobertCA with his reading. He doesn’t seem to have understood my post….
Report Post »caitlynsdad
Posted on October 13, 2010 at 12:20pmPubliusP is mystified: How exactly did I misread the comparison?
CD had already answered that question: confusion of a comparison of kind with a comparison of degree.
Publius P insists: I know it would comfort you to think that I just don‘t know how to read or that I just don’t get it, but unfortunately, that’s not the case.
CD responds: So, then, is it fair to say that when I have to explain plain meanings to you, that you were just playing dumb?
Report Post »RobertCA
Posted on October 13, 2010 at 12:49pm@ Pencilpusher yada yada yada go …. yourself , oops I skipped the best part .
Report Post »UPSETVET
Posted on October 14, 2010 at 7:13amI agree with you ROBERTCA that the current administration is experimenting with the same tactics the Nazis used in the 30‘s and 40’s that ultimately led to their destruction. Growing up in the 40‘s and 50’s we kids ate whatever we could get our hands on and I don’t remember EVER eating a garden salad. We ate tons of candy at every opportunity and it didn’t harm me…harm me…harm me. Ha
Report Post »Beachcomber556
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:02pmNudge back, starting November 2.
Report Post »OneFunR6
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:56pmnudge, nudge, wink, wink, …………….
KaBOOM!
Report Post »badswing
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:01pmthe government has no right to my body. if i want to have an abortion it is not their right to tell me what………oh wait, wrong page
Report Post »caitlynsdad
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:07pmVery funny!
Report Post »OneFunR6
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:40pmSoooo,…….
you’re in favor of abortions,but…..
I‘ll bet you’re against the death-penalty, also!
The government DOES have the ‘right’ to your body,…..
just as soon as the LEFT can get that new deal Constitutional Amendment passed,….
right after the Imam’s re-eletion…..
oh wait, wrong page! ROF!
Yes, Toto, I can see November from my house, too!
Report Post »angrymob
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 4:30pmIf they could they’d steal your last cupcake from your hand!
Report Post »caitlynsdad
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:00pmNote to Obama Administration:
I‘m addicted to McDonald’s, coffee, soda (with aspartame), candy corn at Halloween time, nachos and salsa, and fatty and greasy German food with sauerkraut and beer, particularly during Oktoberfest and on New Year’s Day. I’m on medication for blood pressure and acid reflux, and if I keep going at the rate I am, I might possibly be too high a risk for society to bear.
Come and get me.
Report Post »angrymob
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:26pmI have a slow thyroid and am on meds for this…I’m a fatty fat fat like Beck says…so is the government going to be knocking on my door to take a peek at what I eat?!
P.S. Take care
Report Post »angrymob
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:33pmThis is a fat girl’s worst nightmare! :)
Report Post »Ultra-Conservative
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:36pmThe food police will be here shortly to arrest you. You are obviously setting a bad example for our children. How dare you think for yourself.
Report Post »LOL Keep it up.
PubliusPencilman
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:38pmCaitlynsDad,
Report Post »You’ve accused me of misrepresenting your comments before, so please explain exactly what you thought your post was going to accomplish (other than letting everyone know about your unhealthy lifestyle)?
caitlynsdad
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:43pmTruth be known, AM, no one has definitively linked the likelihood of developing certain diseases to what you eat, and in the end it really all boils down to what genes you were born with. There’s heart disease all through the males in my family, but our diets have varied wildly. Changing your diet is like trying to stop a rising tide by hauling a few buckets of water out of the ocean. It’s just like what the Bible says: “Time and chance happens to us all.”
P.S. Take care.
Report Post »angrymob
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:49pm@ PubliusPencilman
You want to serve children healthy lunches in school…fine? That’s not where I have a problem.
Report Post »This it’s not about eating healthy and you know it; this is about the government thinking it can do a better job parenting our kids. Yes kids are fat today-but like I said before physical activity plays an important role…so parents please involve your kids in sports so the government will get off our backs.
caitlynsdad
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:50pm@Publius
Report Post »You seem to pay overmuch attention to the details and undermuch attention to the point the details are intended to convey. In this case, perhaps the details are accurate; perhaps they’re just fiction. Who knows? Doesn’t matter. What I‘m really try to convey is my disgust that it’s anyone’s business what I eat, or what I don’t, and I‘m just generally being a smartass about it because I can and it’s fun. Really, you might want to look into what an ellipsis is (in terms of rhetoric, not punctuation) and take the time to practice spotting them. It’s one of my favorite literary styles. I don’t practice it as well as, oh, say Shakespeare. But I try.
jbl8199
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 3:29pmHear hear!!!!!! *stands up and applauds*
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 3:37pmWhoops. My mistake for thinking you had a real point to make Caitlynsdad. And for the record, details do matter, and I think that people should be held accountable for the things they say, particularly when they construct arguments from unsound premises (like most talking heads on cable news).
AngryMob,
This IS about kids eating healthy, and your refusal to see that quite explicit issue is an indication of how blinded you are by your particular ideology. For as much as you hate government, you are far too willing to throw the baby out with the bathwater, so you’ll attack how school lunches are handled just to spite the big bad government.
The government isn’t “parenting” here and the government will never replace parents. This is about what happens at school, when the kids are out of reach of their parents. It’s about education, and it’s about healthy eating. This is no mystery.
Report Post »caitlynsdad
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 3:59pmYou’re right, Publius. And I really ought to be ashamed of myself. From henceforth I shall no longer use sarcasm as a means of making a point, and will stick exclusively to the sober Aristotelian logos of thesis, supporting detail, and conclusion.
Sarcasm, ladies and gentlemen, has now been declared as irresponsible as cheese doodles, since it might lead to the death of the American Republic. We’ve been forewarned. Make way for Obama’s Rhetoric Czar, Publius Pencilman.
Report Post »angrymob
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 4:15pm@ pubic…whatever your name is
I said healthy lunches for kids are fine? Why did the government have to step in to do it though? Can’t parents play an active roll in schools…like for example -what they eat and are taught? I think parental involvement is much better…don’t you?
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 7:55pmDid I ruin playtime for you CaitlynsDad? As I have said, I understand much more than you give me credit for, but that’s not really the issue. You would prefer to think that some brainless Obama-loving left-wing conspiracy lib just can’t get it, rather than be faced with the poverty of your own rhetoric. Oh well, knock yourself out my friend.
AngryMob,
Report Post »I do hear what you are saying, but doesn’t it make more sense for a positive development in school lunches to come from an overarching, coordinating agency like th DoE than to expect parental involvement to suddenly blossom in each of the over 100,000 public schools in this country overnight? This issue isn’t who can get it done; it’s letting the people that can get it done, get it done.
angrymob
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 8:21pm@ PubliusPencilman
I don’t know…big government makes me awfully concerned….
Report Post »School lunches would be the ONLY thing I’d let them have ANY say over. So I’ve met you half way…but when it comes to curriculum? Hmmm…I already don’t like what they are teaching kids…much less what they are teaching in my college. So that’s where I put my foot down.
caitlynsdad
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 8:30pmI know it’s hard for you to understand, Publius, but [author pauses here while he points out that an illustration is about to follow] I don’t much like the writing style of Henry James. [Author pauses again to point out that he doesn't think that he's Henry James by any stretch of the imagination, he's just using an illustration. Stick with me, now, clarity is about to follow.] I would not, however, [here's the real point, prepare yourself], ever equate James‘s writing style with poverty merely because it didn’t suit my own personal tastes. The failure may belong more to me than to Henry James. [Author pauses again to point out that he had earlier said that his effort at ellipsis was not up to Shakespearean standards, but was a try.]
The point of my original post was, of course, that it‘s none of the government’s goshdurn business whether I’m eating a pizza or a broccoli sprout. The fact that I chose to make that point by a grandiose display of sarcasm was ultimately an experiment to see how much tweaking I could accomplish. By virtue of the fact that Publius: first, played dumb (or was it a question in earnest and not an act?); second, noted ominously that people should be “held accountable” for their “unsound premises” (as if I should have been engaged in writing an academic thesis); third, insisted that he really does understand a great deal and could hardly have been confused at all, and that it is I, yes I, who was impoverished …. by virtue of all these things, I consider Publius to have been tweaked. Thus I had a little fun while making a serious point about the necessity for the government to stay out of my refrigerator, it has arrogated too much power unto itself over free men and women’s choices.
But of course, in the world according to Publius Pencilman, there’s no room for jokiness while making a serious point. No, that’s something Glenn Beck does; that’s something Rush Limbaugh does. No, instead we must all be serious-minded and dour–kind of like Barack Obama, the Cerebral One.
I’ll take a pass.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 9:10pmCaitlynsDad,
Ha! Who tweaked who? All I had to do was ask for clarification and all matter of whining and moaning came tumbling out, as if you were some depressed pinata. And we got Shakespeare, Aristotle and Henry James to boot!
No worries, I had a much more interesting conversation with AngryMob while all this was going on.
Report Post »caitlynsdad
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 9:22pm@Publius
Report Post »Go back and reread my original response to your question (which was pretty modest) before you confuse yourself any further.
caitlynsdad
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 9:36pmThis has been far too much fun. Signing out; got a book waiting for me. Ironically enough, the title of it is Literary Feuds. LOL.
Report Post »Silat
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:56pmWe’ll my kids were home schooled and then went to private Christian schools.
Report Post »We paid school taxes too.
My son and daughter went to public schools for one month. My son was in second grade and the teachers and janitors told him there is no God.
My daughter was in 7th grade and girls were already having sex.
Guess what? We took them out!!!!!
Screw public schools.
Kisha Majors
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:56pmPlease allow our children to choose for themselves. Don’t manipulate them. We as parents have to let our children make choices on their own. So that they can learn from their mistakes and realize that there is consequences to all their actions. Of course we should offer healthy foods at school. But let the parents, districts, and schools choose for their kids!
It is not the federal governments job to be spending tax dollars on trying to manipulate children. If this route continues and I see it happening in my own child’s school… I will be forced to remove my child from public schooling, and either teach at home or take her to a private school where the federal government does not dictate!
Report Post »biggreenboo
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:12pmDamn straight… let a fatty be a fatty… I say that after finishing 2 crackle bars, a pack of smarties and a sour patch twisler. Minis of course (God, i can’t breath)
Report Post »Kisha Majors
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:18pmLOL Well see, now you have the consequences to your actions. How are children or adults supposed to learn from their own mistakes if they can’t be given a choice to make them. =0)
Report Post »Nietsretto
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 4:47pmOur Federal Govt has been manipulating our lives since the early 20th century. They have removed truth from the text books, they have removed morality from any educational effort. They have been indoctrinating our youth for decades. It is about time to revolt and remove the DEA, DOA, IRS, etc. It begins by voting, and becoming active in your local politics.
Report Post »CNK
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:54pmSince when is the government going to tell me what to feed my kids? This is what’s coming now that the healthcare bill was passed. In the name of wasting tax dollars, we all have to watch what we eat.
Report Post »DanStlMo
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:54pmWe need to cut funding by 50% for all of the alphabet agencies.
Report Post »john seven eighteen
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:54pmHow about if we use “Reality Behavior Scientists” to modify the idiots at the DOA’s progressive behavior!!!
Report Post »El Paco
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:52pmDude, they did this with us back when I was in grade school. Nothing better then having to put half your body in the fridge-like bin to not only get the chocolate milk, but a small bit of cooling refreshment on hot school days :P
I say kids will still pick chocolate milk.
Report Post »CoFX
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:48pm“leaving choices to schools, students, and parents is not the way to ensure students make “health choices.” ” However, $2 million in taxpayer funds will help ensure the Government makes the proper choices for you.
It’s no longer about educating kids on health issues to help them make thier own healthy decisions. After they take away food choices at school, they will determine that children go home and eat unhealthy foods when not in the “controlled school environment”. Get ready for the “nudge” in your own home coming soon.
Report Post »Punky
Posted on October 14, 2010 at 10:07amThat $2 million really gets me.
‘After $2 million dollar study, government discovers salad bar is healthier choice than dessert; fruit looks nice in basket’
And it doesn’t matter; even if the ‘food behavior’ research is legitimate, if the DOE or any other dysfunctional federal organization decides to implement some kind of national program based on that research, the program will no doubt be cost-inefficient and ineffectual, as that seems to be the way things always go when Washington gets involved…
Report Post »SnapTie
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:48pmWhat so funny is my Mom over sixty year’s ago laid down the law what we ate. And now i am so glad because nobody in my immediate family is overweight and in good shape in their 60‘s and 70’s. Some Mom’s really did know what was right for us.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:56pmand it was and still is the parents (not our federal masters) job to do.
Report Post »TheBloodOfTyrants
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:56pmRight. “Eat your spinach, or nothing.” Worked for me, and it works for my kid, too. It only took one trip to bed without dinner for her to realize she didn’t want to do that that again. :)
Report Post »TheBloodOfTyrants
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:46pmNahhhh. Just keep killing us off with aspartame. It’s cheaper.
Report Post »CoFX
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:09pmExactly. How long until artificial sweeteners and chemical-based fat replacers are put into your children’s diets at the school cafeteria? (May be happening already, I don’t know) I’d rather have a chubby child than risk the health problems associated with fat free, sugar free foods.
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:45pm“Federal officials are turning to psychology in a new approach to get kids to choose healthier foods in the school lunch line.”
Report Post »Tea Party officials are turning to psychology in a new approach to get Federal officials to choose healthier choices in the federally funded programs line “The new psycological approach is simple” , explained one Tea Party offical who chose to remain anyonomus. “We shall simply vote out anyone who supports such socialist ideals.” Assitionally, it is reported that “pink slips” are being prepared for over 300,000 federal employees in the departments of Education, HUD, State, and varrious other departments that shall no longer exist under the smarter, smaller federal government starting in January 2011.
Tea party officials also have the realistic expectation that removing all “czarist” positions within the Federal government will encourage businesses large and small to start hiring once again.
On a related note, several new federal laws are strongly being considered that would make it a felony to belong to certine unti-American groups, such as the Democratic socialist party and the Council on Foreign relations. Though much tought and prayer must be given to weed out the nefarious from the simply decieved.
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Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:58pmyou cannot bar people from belonging to any group as it is a violation of the 1st.
Report Post »Christian Special Forces
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:34pmRemoving all czars? Yes! Banning people from joining any group they choose? NO!! We are all americans and have the right to choose for ourselves. Let‘s be careful not fall into the ditch on the other side of the road as we swerve to get out of the one we’re in right now.
Report Post »printdesignchicago.com
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:44pmer…um…there’s thousands of ways to make affordable HEALTHY desserts and snacks in our schools. the right school cafeteria could actually turn a profit with the right offerings!
have these ‘dieticians’ for schools ever even looked up healthy snacks on say… the internet?!?!?!?
Report Post »Star Spangled
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:43pmI agree ! Stop treating our kids like a bunch of lab rats !! Get the hell out of the schools lunch programs .
Report Post »outwest
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:42pmPublic school has become like public transportation. – you only use it when you are out of other options.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:55pmThe first demand of all conservatives/Christians/Patriots should be the instant defunding of all state sponsored education.
Report Post »Christian Special Forces
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:28pmSwampy- I agree on the federal level. Defund the Department of Education but while we’re at it defund the FDA as well. The Federal Government has no constitutional right to regulate are food anyway. That goes double for our children.
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:37pmAs the beneficiary of a public school education as well as avid user of public transportation, I can attest to the stupidity of Outwest’s comment.
Report Post »dressseller
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 7:58pmNo ..OUTWEST has it EXACTLY right. I too am the beneficiary of a public education …but it was different back in the 70s coming along than it is now. We struggle to give our kids a private primary education because we can’t stomach the idea of them receiving a State Indoctrinated public education. If we fail to be able to afford the private school here that we love then we will home school. Our government has failed us in so many ways but none greater than the publicly funded education system. I imagine the Progressives however think it’s working just fine. And that, my friends, is the point.
Report Post »caitlynsdad
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 8:59pm@Dresseller
Yes, it was very different in the 70s and 80s, when I was in public school. I can remember the shock I had when I taught my first couple of classes as a graduate student to discover that some of my freshmen students had never been taught how to use a dictionary. (Some of us still have that problem, but I digress.) I was first taught how to write a research paper in eighth grade, and it was actually submitted for two grades–one by my English teacher, who graded it for how well it was written, and one by my history teacher, who graded it on the thoroughness of the research itself. But by the 1990s, those even just five years behind me had never been taught or required to write a research paper, and I felt that I had to back up several years’ worth of education before I could even get to what I wanted to teach them. It was frustrating, to say the least.
Having said all that, I still think that I‘ve learned more from the reading that I’ve done on my own than I ever did in the public school. My niece is home-schooled by my father, and I help her out with her literature assignments (which are a real challenge for her), and she has learned a heck of a lot more than I knew even all those years ago when the public schools were much better than they are today.
Report Post »dressseller
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 11:08pm@CAITLYNSDAD, Yes. We are in complete agreement. Those graduating in the 90s and 2000s just would not believe how different things became in just a few very short decades with the quality of the education they are receiving (or lack thereof). When Carter’s DOE took over back in the 70s ..that was the beginning of the end and just look at how destructive government has been to education in such a short time! ..Just think ..at this pace.. what the public education system will be like in another 2 – 3 decades. This, I believe, was the plan all along though. What better way to take over a nation than to take over the hearts and minds of the nation’s youth. This whole system needs to go. The government should not be in the business of running the country’s education. Our government is corrupt in so many ways and they tend to corrupt that in which they become involved.
I remember when the Pledge of Allegience and School Prayer and Christmas Plays/Songs/Music/Parties weren’t taboo. They were an honored tradition. How sad for us for how far and quickly we’ve fallen.
Report Post »DevotedDad
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:41pmHow about we focus on fixing the economy before we try to influence the minds of our children
I can hear it now “but this will save us money in the long run”. Somehow, every time politicians say that, it ends up costing us not only our freedom but tons of taxpayer money as well.
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:56pmBack to excercise, they can’t afford to put P.E. in the schools but they can pay for all these studys about our fat kids. My boy eats everthing that isn’t nailed down but he goes outside every day and gets some excercise, Guess what??he’s not fat at ALL!
Report Post »IKW
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 4:51pmMy 12 year old daughter is an eating machine and thin as a rail…she actually goes outside and plays, WHAT A CONCEPT!!!
IKW
Report Post »DanB
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 6:09pmLet me see. I agree and disagree. I think the economy needs fixing first, but I think the solution is not with government. Both of these cases need less government.
Less government fixes for the economy and the economy will fix itself.
Less government control over the education of our youth….
I find it terribly ironic that we’ll state in one sentence that government should get out of our private lives and in the next we will suggest that government should be fixing things in the private sector.
I am no better. I used to think government had a place in education. I used to think government had a place tending the forests. I used to think government was great for welfare. The more I learn, the more I want less and less government. Government welfare does not cure poverty, it creates more. Government tending forests creates massive forest fires and does little to protect wildlife (it is a deception–the forest fires probably do more to protect wildlife than the government does–a little reality that would shatter some environmentalists brains I think). And education, the more government gets involved the less we seem to be able to do for ourselves….
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:41pmHow about if parents decide what their kids eat?? seems absurd, but there it is. Oh yeah, and maybe unplug the kids from their xbox or playstations every now and then. Tell the kids to go outside and get some excercise, kids burn calories like crazy if you keep them busy.
Report Post »walkwithme1966
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:15pmAmen Kate – that’s the answer. You won‘t the feds out of the cafeteria’s at school, then make them lose weight at home. http://wp.me/pYLB7-dA
Report Post »medcam
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 4:17pmWhat a novel idea! See, the obesity problem has become much worse since the advent of video games and twinkies. Our grandparents had to be up milking cows before school, followed by chores after school. If we teach our kids to work (physically) it would solve a lot of problems. Another part of the equation is that most parents let someone else be in charge of their kids – babysitters, daycare, after school programs, etc. Parents need to be parents. End of story.
This article is yet another reason for me to home school my kids…
Report Post »DanB
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 4:54pmTip. As you unplug the kids from the Xbox, remember to unplug yourself from whatever you are doing.
I know of a couple that were upset that their son wanted to play computer games all the time instead of playing like a “healthy” kid. Well, I watched and realized that the parents were doing exactly that. As did the parents, so did the kid.
I am not perfect. But my wife has a hard time teaching the kids not to climb on the furniture, but when I took a moment I realized that I climb over the furniture. I spend a lot of time on the computer and I am not surprised that my kids take an interest in the computer. And when I take apart my personal computer to work on it (change HDD–I have an extra so I can different things without losing my data if I break my computer) and they will gather round and have even offered to help me (they are 5, 3, and twins just under 2 years old). I am very aware that what we do affects what they do. My wife wants to live someplace with a backyard. I would love that too, but I know that we cannot expect our kids to run and play all day back there if all mom and dad do is watch TV, follow Facebook, and play such games.
And take vegetables…. That same couple that got after their son for wanting to play computer games all day. Well, they also tried to force him to eat veggies. But did they eat veggies? Maybe corn on the cob, or fresh peas but most of the time they were trying to get him to eat veggies when they would not. Personally, I happen to love veggies. Our kids don’t always eat veggies, but they should have no doubt that dad likes the vegetables we usually serve (except zucchini–makes great bread but otherwise I cannot stand zucchini–my wife loves it so we have it now and then).
Report Post »NoName22
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 6:34pmDanB……Now that’s some BRILLIANT dropping of knowledge….
“Some of the ideas include hiding chocolate milk behind plain milk, putting the salad bar near checkout, placing fruit in pretty baskets”
These aren’t terrible ideas, especially the first two because they cost NOTHING to do, do not directly affect your ability to say “yes or no” to anything, and encourage a person to eat healthy, which is a good thing. The pretty basket idea…..depends on how much it costs.
As for making kids pay cash only for desserts and giving them cards that limit choices, that’s total BS. And if you want to say the school has that authority because the parent leaves them there, WHO DO YOU THINK FOOTS THE BILL FOR THE SCHOOL? Oh yeah, the government, that’s just entitled to taxpayer money…..It’s not like that parent is paying for the public school or anything, they just pay taxes.
Now of course, as DanB said, parents need to be parents and realize their influence. Easier said than done, and especially today when both parents are almost required to work to maintain a standard of living. Parents are human and are gonna need some RnR just like anyone else.
DanB already said it…“Practice what you preach” to your kids.
Report Post »Annie Fields
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:40pm…Sigh… I’m so tired of these people. So very, very tired… I’ll fight and fight and (peacefully!) won’t give up until we reclaim our first principles, but good grief… god almighty… Can we get a break? This is AWFUL. It’s so HARD to FIGHT them! Because EVERY DAMNED THING THEY DO is WRAPPED in one little seed of good intentions so they make it such a friggin’ mountain to climb to fight the good fight… Sigh… I’m so tired… I’m so tired of the apathy that leads people to shrug these encroachments off as no big deal when they are. They’re a VERY big deal… It’s death by a thousand cuts. Tyranny is ALWAYS wrapped in “helping” – Why don‘t people understand the DIFFERENCE between your Uncle Harry saying something and the federal friggin’ government doing it??????? Don’t they understand that NOBODY floats on a rubber raft to GET to Cuba? This paternalistic evening of all is EXACTLY where this sickening evil starts and ends… Sigh…
Report Post »angrymob
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:45pmThey won’t be sailing one here either if the Dems get their way…I‘ve noticed that too American’s not the place it used to be…how sad.
Report Post »printdesignchicago.com
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:49pmyour being tired is what the progressives are counting on as they whittle away at our rights and our
Constitution.
don’t give up. spread the word (not Nancy’s word). and REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER!
Report Post »TheBloodOfTyrants
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:53pmIt’s the “peacefully” thing that’s becoming a problem. I think time is about up for that portion of our struggle. Let‘s speak in a language they’re more apt to understand, shall we?
OldFlyGuy
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:10pmTheBloodOfTyrants – Please No!! Let’s not lower ourselves to their level. Let’s keep to the high road and folks will have a clear choice.
Report Post »Christian Special Forces
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:20pmEph 6:12 “For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.“ 13 ”Therefore take the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all to stand.“ 14 ”Stand therefore, having girded your waist with TRUTH, having put on the breast plate of RIGHTEOUSNESS.“ 15 ”and having shod your feet with the preperation of the gospel of PEACE:“ 16 ”above all, taking the shield of FAITH with which you will be able to quench all the fierey darts of the wicked one.“ 17 ”And take the helmet of SALVATION, and the sword of the SPIRIT, which if the WORD OF GOD:“ 18 ”praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, being watchful to this end with all perseverance and supplication for all the saints…”
Report Post »TheBloodOfTyrants
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:37pmWell, what are we waiting for? Things like this will just go on and on and on until we REVOLT! With a congressional AND presidential lame duck session approaching, things are only going to get worse from November. I‘d rather not sit and wait for Obama’s Reichstag fire. We shouldn’t give him the chance!
Report Post »tmarends
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 3:59pmThe path to hell is paved with good intentions
Report Post »angrymob
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:39pm“[I]t is well recognized that understanding the value of a healthy diet does not always translate into healthy choices.”
It’s just that…a choice…not the government’s but mine.
Report Post »walkwithme1966
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:13pmWell, the why do we have so many obese kids? Looks like parents are not teaching their kids how to eat right. Teach your kids to make better eating choices. http://wp.me/pYLB7-dA
Report Post »caitlynsdad
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:15pmIt is well recognized that understanding the need for a Constitutional republic doesn’t always translate into responsible election results.
Report Post »angrymob
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:18pm@ walkwithme1966
Parents are partly to blame for what their kids eat yes, but I also believe it is a lack of physical activity that has lead to this phenom…
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:33pm“It’s just that…a choice…not the government’s but mine.”
Your choice? Are you in elementary school? Are you the one in the lunch line choosing between regular milk and chocolate milk? If not, I feel like your choice doesn’t really figure into this equation. Some things are not really about you….
Report Post »angrymob
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:43pm@ PubliusPencilman
I’m in college does that count?
Report Post »ILFarmer
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:50pmi don’t know about anyone else, but when i was in school, i would hunt for that chocolate milk if there were any left (they didn’t keep things fully stocked all the time). And the cookies in my school were above and beyond in tastiness to the point were it was a rush to the line to get them before they ran out for the lunch period.
it’s our own choice to eat what we want and those that are determined to get the unhealthy food will continue to do so. But the choice needs to be there. And making it more difficult to get by monetary means is really just adding an unfair, unregulated, and unconstitutional tax, against children no less.
Report Post »Waiting4George
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:54pmDear PubliusPencilman–
Report Post »I know just what you are saying. People said the same thing about that whole seatbelt thing way back when. Now you can’t use a cell phone,smoke,or play loud music in your own privately owned car. And some people think, irrationally, the government wants to take over. Can you believe it?
poverty.sucks
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 3:18pmIt’s understanding the states economic value to school lunches. Similar to McDonalds value to kids meals. What are the least expensive ingredients that can be combine for an enjoyable meal that will get the kid to the next meal time. Pro-Active Parents will pack a lunch for their children and attend lunch time with them as well. As soon as restrictions are imposed on to those responsible to provide the meals, costs will increase (packed lunches cost more). When schools are already on a tight budget, where will the money for increased food costs come from? Education? Now where is the value of education compared to lunch? What’s more important to you, and what are you going to do about it?
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 3:25pmAngryMob,
No, that doesn’t count.
IlFarmer,
Report Post »I really do not think that anything here counts as a “unfair, unregulated, and unconstitutional tax.”
lockedandloaded
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 3:41pmWell it couldn’t be because the board of education decided that kids no longer have to dress out for P.E. or that they don‘t have to excercise or hell in some schools they don’t even have P.E. anymore!
Report Post »Because Obama beleives that kids shouldn’t have to listen to grown-ups sometimes there to out of touch with reality. And angry mob is right it is our GOD given right to make those choices. And the government needs to stay out. You may want to give up your rights walkwithme1966, but don’t force it on everybody else. And why should we teach our kids to make better eating choices if people like you want the government to do it for us?
tikibrent
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 5:09pmIt will lead to the same outcome as when “they” made it mandatory for food establishments to show the health information, thinking people would read what was best for them and get it. Nothing changed. People bought what they wanted regardless of the healthful choice!
Report Post »caitlynsdad
Posted on October 13, 2010 at 1:23am1966 opines with authoritarian chin-stroking: “Looks like parents aren’t teaching their kids to eat right.” Hmm, so what’s the solution, genius? To have the state raise all kids?
Would a Nazi comparison be appropriate at this point, or would that be carrying things too far? Where’s Publius when you need him?
Report Post »PubliusPencilman
Posted on October 13, 2010 at 7:03amYour obsession with me is flattering, CaitlynsDad, but also a little creepy.
Report Post »IKW
Posted on October 13, 2010 at 2:53pm@PubliusPencilman,
Not nearly as pathetic and creepy as people who have to manufacture their own flattery…I’m not seeing too many words of respect or regarding the “information” you post. If this is what your “publius” life is like, your private one must be…….well, you have my sympathy.
IKW
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:37pmget the fed OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS get the fed out of our pockets, get the fed out of our houses. this is the responsibility of the parents period
Report Post »TheyTookOurJOBS
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:39pmThey took our jobs!
NFYRx
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:41pmHelp me daddy! I can’t help mahself!
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:53pmThe fed also needs to stay the heck out of the ‘minds’ of our kids. Its bad enough they are brainwashed in public schools!
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Report Post »Ken
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 1:56pmAmen to that!!!
Report Post »Promotefreedom
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:03pmSo many people fall for this “good for you” crap. They have blinders on. Can’t see what is coming.
These progressives Incremental change works.
Just heard about some school districts that are now enforcing kids behavior when out of school by saying that since they participate in after school activities, that the schools can dictate how they behave after school. That they should only do “responsible” things. (That the government says is alright to do I guess.) I picked up on this from mainstream media, so I think a lot was left out.
This is too much.
Report Post »snowleopard3200
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:08pmOnce again the power of out of control government that thinks it knows best rears its ugly head.
What happened to personal responsibility?
http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm (mixed art)
Report Post »LONGLEGGEDMACKDADDY
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:15pmYou do those in prison? Why you drawin cat peoples?
Report Post »Robert W
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:15pmYou vill eat zee carrots or you vill die!
Report Post »Larry Sheldon
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:22pmI didn’t vote for them. How am I supposed to get them out?
Report Post »Hmschlmom
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:23pmTry this…make the salad bar out of ingredients that don’t inspire nausea…IE wilted and BROWN!
Report Post »If the healthy selections are of decent quality, the kids will eat them.
If the only thing that looks good is the junk, they will eat the junk!
(My oldest son went to the local high school, and said the salad bar was, frankly, nauseating. The food was spoiled looking!)
PubliusPencilman
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:30pmSo I assume all of you who are complaining about the federal government here would generally allow your children to eat whatever they want at any time out of respect for their civil rights? Give me a break! If it wasn’t the Department of Agriculture doing this and directing research across the country, it would be someone else, and it seems to me that one federal agency directing research is far more efficient than fifty studies in fifty different states.
It‘s kids’s school lunches! Honestly, this article shows that some people will use any excuse possible to indulge their irrational paranoia regarding government takeovers.
neverending
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:33pmIt can’t happen soon enough!!! Get out of our lives and our children and grandchildrens lives.
Report Post »Buck Ofama
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 2:53pmAnd here where I live in Indiana they’re pushing for year round school. Nanny-state here we come! I’m glad my kids are past school age.
Report Post »ChyCremer
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 3:03pmthe only way obamacare works is if we are all healthy…no tanning, no eating french fries, no choc milk for children…of course obama can smoke, but thats alright since he won’t be covered by this ridiculous healthcare plan they are forcing on us….
Report Post »Ellie
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 3:11pmThe abysmal failure of the public school system to both educate and keep the students healthy while under almost total control of state and federal agencies is yet more proof that big-government a.k.a. Public solutions are not the answer.
Time to shut down the federal dept of education and allow all states to fully privatize their school systems. Sell all facilities to private education companies and give parents vouchers for their child’s educational needs so those companies have to compete for students by showing that they are able to provide a better education and healthier food choices.
1776Federalist
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 3:19pmThe feds say; “leaving choices to schools, students, and parents is not the way to ensure students make “healthful choices.”. Are they admitting that schools can’t properly educate our children? It is obvious that they think parents are just stupid Homer Simpson type simpletons who don’t know what is best for them, but now they admit that the indoctrination arm of the Democrat party (enforced by the NEA) is a total failure at teaching our kids! PUBLIUSPENCILMAN: You need to stop drinking the Kool-Aid. You are losing the ability to reason. It is about taking the ability to teach our children to make choices by allowing our government to tell our children what decicions to make according to them knowing what is best for everyone. It reeks of USSR reeducation and indoctrination. We , as parents, have the responsibility to teach our children. The state has no business interfering with parents rights without just cause. This is an infringement on our rights for the purpose of control, by the government, over its citizens.
Report Post »5
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 3:39pmLeave My Kids food alone. You stop them from eating what I send and they will eat Pizza every night and Ice Cream in the morning.
Report Post »Ken
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 3:39pmEasy answer! Home school them!
Report Post »IWISHFORABETTERAMERIKA
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 3:47pmYet 1 more reason to home school.
Report Post »the_patriot
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 3:56pmIf my kids weren’t grown already, I’d pull them out of school so fast! I’ll grow what I want, whenever I want on my own land. I’ll teach what I want, to whomever I want. The DOA and the DOE can kiss my ass! They both need to be abolished. Is it time for the weapons yet?
IKW
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 4:31pm@PubliusPencilman:
My children don’t have rights, they are not qualified to exercise them. After they have completed my training program (that lasts 18 years) they are then released into their world of responsibility of which I will be a loving counselor…not a probation officer!
Until they are 18 and responsible for their own behinds in the eyes of the law, they represent me and when dealing with any type of permission or acceptable behavior, I set the standard…PERIOD! You see, I have worked hard to establish a life worth being proud of, and I did it primarily because that was the only option my entire family will accept….now how could I hate my children so much as to NOT hold them to the same standard?
IKW
Report Post »soulsurfer
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 4:38pmMMMMMM I love that GMO (Genectically Modified Organisms)- Hmmm I wonder why the bees are dieing? Ok lets see they have made food that bugs now wont eat cause it kills the bugs..But the FDA wants us to eat the crap now… Uhhh population control.. Avoid all corn-soy-canola-cottenseed. Avoid this poison.. I stopped all of these and still eat like a pig and I have lost 40 pounds in 60 days…This GMO food is killing us people.. Wake Up
Report Post »anOpinion
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 4:47pm@PUBLIUSPENCILMAN
I agree, what people here don’t seem to understand is that when your kids are at school, the school is the parent. Parents can teach your kids, feed them good food but when they are in school that job falls on the school because you aren’t there. The average kid will always choose junk food if offered to them, regardless of what their parents taught them about eating that garbage everday.
Report Post »IKW
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 4:55pmHey, anOpinion, ask my kids who the parent is, me or the school? See an earlier post, I don’t feel like explaining it again in the same damn thread.
IKW
Report Post »tikibrent
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 5:04pmIKW,
You nailed it!!!! Great comment!
Report Post »anOpinion
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 5:19pm@IKW
Of course you are the parent, but unless you are at the school teaching your kid, feeding them lunch, and discipling them, you are handing over that role to the school while they are there. You should be trying to hold the school/teachers to a standard because they are the ones teaching your kid. Its a good thing for a school that is feeding kids everyday to try teaching them good eating habits.
Report Post »Kalait
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 7:49pmI second that. It is time this generation pickup the required tools and fix, the infrastructure, education, budget, and health-care for the next generation. Yes, kids may well need to eat healthier diets, however they must first eat, if there is not something on the line which the child whats to eat many parents will send lunch to school with the kid….or is that not allowed anymore?
Report Post »mom2my2
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 8:51pmI am all for healthy diets. Why offer unhealthy choices. If they only offer healthy (attractive) foods then there is no issue. Problem solved and $2million saved.
Report Post »linda snider
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 9:17pmAdd your comments
Report Post »linda snider
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 9:23pmThe public “liberal ”schools have too much control over our children. My grandson is in 6th grade and is required to watch CNN every day.
Report Post »jcldwl
Posted on October 12, 2010 at 10:12pmI find it ridiculous that the fed now wants to mind control our kids in school to the way they eat, based on the idea of being healthy, but they have removed physical education from the schools. Doesn‘t that show you something is truly wrong with the federal government being involved with our children’s indoctrination….oops I meant education. GET THE FEDS OUT OF OURS AND OUR CHILDRENS PERSONAL FREEDOM OF CHOICE. Get rid for the NEA and put control of the schools back in the hands of the states. This will give us, THE TAX PAYERS, more control over what the schools do with our children when they are acting in our rolls as parents. I thank God I have no more children to send through the public school indoctrination system.
Report Post »Thizzy
Posted on October 13, 2010 at 1:25amdur dook dur jobss!!
Report Post »LUDWIKA BRONISLAWA
Posted on October 13, 2010 at 1:30amSOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!! IT’S PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!! One of my favorite lines, unfourtunately that movie is seeming more and more possible everyday. I mean, like WORST case and all, but still. Don’t eat the government cheese!
Report Post »Punky
Posted on October 13, 2010 at 1:55amIt only took the federal government $2 million to realize fruit looks nicer in a basket?
Report Post »b kuehlhorn
Posted on October 13, 2010 at 3:12amWhile schools and education our children is a local issue, public service ads are not wrong. It’s not wrong for government to promote general welfare. Ads are the most promoting government should do. Ads are just the only nudge government is allowed. We need to be diligent to prevent slide down the slop.
We need to be care to detail with he real threats.
Report Post »Post-Progressive American
Posted on October 13, 2010 at 6:05amWait a second…teachers and administrators are NOT surrogate parents; if you think so, you are sadly mistaken.
I will grant you that many people use schools as daycare and gladly relinquish their parental duties, and the government has too eagerly stepped up to take over the role of parent. If individuals, as parents, decide to do so, so be it; the Nanny State is there for you. In my case, I am the parent, not the school, and I relinquish NONE of my parental duties or responsibilities.
Public education has failed, in large part due to intrusion by the Federal Government…just like nearly everything else it touches. How about we return education the States where it belongs? Or better yet, how about we just privatize schools and allow the parents to decide which private schools (or home school) have the best policies and practices for their children?
IKW
Posted on October 13, 2010 at 2:11pm@anOpinion,
I do not give my responsibilities to teachers or, God forbid, a school administrator. They get my complete support for any issues my child causes, however if they do not have their “junk” together they will have a very bad day when I have to come down to do their job for them.
Unlike most children in the United States these days, my kids actually do made bad decisions from time to time, and when they do I demand they pay the price, not bail them out. My children learn from their mistakes, and one of the mistakes they learned VERY early in life, well before school began, is don’t mess with Dad.
IKW
Report Post »Blazergirl
Posted on October 13, 2010 at 10:28pmHas anyone ever seen the1973 Soylent Green movie starring Charleston Heston? First they are going after our children and then it will be the parents and the the WORLD……. Check out this scifi. It’s getting a little to real for me.
Blazergirl
Posted on October 13, 2010 at 10:42pmHas anyone seen the 1973 movie “Soylent Green” starring Charleston Heston? Food for thought. First they nudge our kids then they‘ll shove the parents then they’ll own THE WORLD. Check out this scifi. It’s getting a little too real for me.
Report Post »UPSETVET
Posted on October 14, 2010 at 7:03amThe truth is, we‘re all Barack Obama’s “ lab rats ” in his experiments with marxism and socialistic forms of government. But I have to hand it to him, he’s clever and is a master of manipulation. If the opposition wasn‘t so great there’s no telling where I country would be now under his presidency
Report Post »Compete or Lose
Posted on October 14, 2010 at 6:52pm.
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What an incredible wast of money.
Don’t these people understand that we dont have money to waste anymore?
THere is an incredibly simple low cost solution.
Every day for school lunch the students would get their choice of (1) Cheese sandwich or (2) baloney sandwich. All served on the cheapest white bread available. In addition, each student could take a scoop of carrot nubs and a carton of 1% milk. Same meal every day, low cost, simple to produce simple to serve, and simple to clean up.
For schools with breakfast, the meal would consist of generic cheerios and milk. Cheerios would be served from bulk container and milk from bulk dispenser. Same meal every day, low cost, simple to produce simple to serve, and simple to clean up.
Finally, if the kids dont like the food, they dont have to eat it. When they are hungry enough, they will eat and frankly if they aren‘t hungry enough the shouldn’t eat.
Simple solutions, low cost, effective and save the money to spend on raising the education levels of the students.
Good luck
RGS
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