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Nun‘s ’Mysterious‘ Recovery Hailed as Pope John Paul II’s Miracle

AIX-EN-PROVENCE, France (AP/The Blaze) — A French nun says she felt new inner strength and vitality as her Parkinson’s disease suddenly disappeared in 2005 — a recovery the Vatican attributes to the miraculous intercession of Pope John Paul II.

Sister Marie Simon-Pierre, who works at a Paris maternity clinic, told reporters in a rare appearance Monday that she felt “reborn” on waking June 3, 2005 after she had prayed for healing to John Paul.

“There was a new strength inside me, and my body was rediscovering its vitality and fluidity,” Simon-Pierre, appearing in good health, told reporters in the southern French city of Aix-en-Provence.

The 49-year-old nun — who has largely been shielded from the media — said she still sometimes talks to John Paul.

“For this news conference, I told him to stay right beside me!” said Simon-Pierre, who appeared smiling and wearing a white habit at the news conference.

Pope Benedict XVI has set May 1 as the date for his predecessor’s beatification, a step toward possible sainthood.

Church authorities have studied Simon-Pierre’s cure and determined it was inexplicable and due to the intercession of John Paul, who also suffered from Parkinson’s. Benedict approved the miracle last week, paving the way for the beatification.

Last year, there were some questions about whether the nun’s original diagnosis was correct. But in a statement Friday, the Congregation for the Causes of Saints said Vatican-appointed doctors had “scrupulously” studied the case and determined that her cure had no scientific explanation.

Parkinson’s, a disorder of the central nervous system, includes symptoms such as trembling, rigidity and problems of balance.

Simon-Pierre‘s healing came about two months after John Paul’s death on April 2, 2005, at age 84. Soon before her mysterious recovery, she had asked to stop working, saying she was “ready to finish out her days in a wheelchair,” her former mother superior recalled.

“When she came to ask me to replace her, I noticed that she was very worn out. I told her to wait. I told her that John Paul II hadn’t had his last word on the subject,” Sister Marie-Thomas recalled.

Benedict put John Paul on the fast track to possible sainthood just weeks after he died, waiving the typical five-year waiting period before the process could begin. But he insisted that the investigation into John Paul’s life be thorough to avoid any doubts about his virtues.

The beatification will nonetheless be the fastest on record, coming a little more than six years after his death and beating out Mother Teresa’s then-record beatification in 2003 by a few days.

Millions of visitors are expected to visit the Vatican on May 1 for the beatification ceremony.

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  • Lisa4Catholics
    Posted on January 18, 2011 at 10:19am

    http://catholic-citizen.com/secularfront/the-problem-with-collective-salvation/
    The Church does not teach collective salvation, period.

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  • MrsSahm3
    Posted on January 18, 2011 at 9:47am

    2.EDUCATION
    We are obligated to educate ourselves and others about social justice. Read all you can about the subject. Study all you can about all the social issues facing us in the world today. Spread the word about these issues. Examples :Global Warming, the natural disasters, sweatshops, the death penalty, opressed and persecuted Christians in the Sudan etc. ……………everything!

    http://www.ecatholic2000.com/sj/socjust.shtml#Catechism

    I‘m not bashing anyone’s religion, I just believe that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

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    • Lisa4Catholics
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 10:14am

      MrsSahm3 And you are taking it out of context, when you read the catechism you need to read the principle of subsidiarity, and past popes. In fact Father Corapi just did a talk on the EVIL of socialism on EWTN they will probably replay it online. I love it when people try to twist Church teaching to suit their own negative opinion of the Church.
      1991 encyclical Centesimus Annus by Pope John Paul II:

      “In recent years the range of such intervention has vastly expanded, to the point of creating a new type of state, the so-called ‘Welfare State.’ This has happened in some countries in order to respond better to many needs and demands by remedying forms of poverty and deprivation unworthy of the human person. However, excesses and abuses, especially in recent years, have provoke very harsh criticisms of the Welfare State, dubbed the ‘Social Assistance State.’ Malfunctions and defects in the Social Assistance State are the result of an inadequate understanding of the tasks proper to the State. Here again the principle of subsidiarity must be respected: a community of a higher order should not interfere in the internal life of a community of a lower order, depriving the latter of its functions, but rather should support it in case of need and help to coordinate its activity with the activities of the rest of society, always with a view to the common good. “By intervening directly and depriving society of its responsibility, the Social Assistance State leads to a loss of human energies and an inordinate increase of public agencies, which are dominated more by bureaucratic thinking than by concern for serving their clients, and which are accompanied by an enormous increase in spending, In fact, it would appear that needs are best understood and satisfied by people who are closest to them who act as neighbors to those in need. It should be added that certain kinds of demands often call for a response which is not simply material but which is capable of perceiving the deeper human need.”

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    • TakeBackAmerica
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 1:07pm

      Lisa,

      Why can’t you see that the RCC is all about power? It has been corrupt since the 3rd century. Ever study the crusades? Your head would explode if you ever really learned the truth about the RCC.

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    • zorro
      Posted on January 20, 2011 at 1:12pm

      Only someone who has never truly studied the crusades would say something like “your head would explode if….”

      I‘m sorry we can’t get into a historical discussion of the crusades but I encourage you to click on links other than Wikipedia when conducting your research.

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    • TakeBackAmerica
      Posted on January 20, 2011 at 1:34pm

      I didn’t mean that only about the crusades. Dude, for centuries, THE LEADERSHIP OF THE CHURCH sanctioned torture and murder for those who simply disagreed with them. Your head would explode as well if you were willing to actually do some research and not ignore these atrocities.

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    • zorro
      Posted on January 20, 2011 at 1:50pm

      @TakeBackAmerica

      Yes, many men have done terrible things in the name of the Church. This does not mean the Church condones it. In some cases, I know the Pope knew about them (or may have ordered them) but the Pope is NOT the Church. The Church goes beyond any Pope and guided by the Holy Spirit. We Catholics truly believe this as corny as it may sound to “enlightened” folks like you.

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  • KITA
    Posted on January 18, 2011 at 9:12am

    To all the Catholic Bashers:
    First of All ! God bless us all. I pray that through this miracle, the faith in people will be strengthened.
    Read Rev. 12 – Mary is Queen of heaven. Jesus is our King. We honor Mary just as we were taught to honor our mothers and fathers- do you think Jesus ignored his own teaching? I think not.
    To you who think once your name is in the lambs book of life – see this… Rev 3:5, ~What is this ? but I’ve always heard that once I was “saved” I had my “salvation” ? Maybe not.
    What about Matthew 16:19 Jesus told Peter that what he binds on earth shall be bound in heaven and what he doesn’t, won’t. -Peter was our first Pope.
    We were taught the traditions that Jesus taught him. 2 Thess 2:15 “Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.”
    We are taught that the host and wine are not mere symbols. They are the real deal and every Sunday the Lord comes to be with us and all in unity with other Catholic Churches, we receive him. If it was just a mere symbol, all Jesus would have had to say to (John 6:60) All he had to say was – hey guys, I’m sorry, I didn’t really mean it- its just going to be a symbol. We Catholics believe the host is consecreted and we are actually consuming the body and blood of Jesus Christ.
    I have been in many churches growing up and it seems to me, that we are not the ones being decieved. Grant it, we have our problems just as any other. Another thing – while attending these other churches, many preachers have held the KJV up and have shaken it and said this is the only way – there is nothing else. I will agree that all scripture is inspired by GOD, but I will not agree that ONLY scripture is inspired by God. -Shew… I could go on, but I have work to do. You, who judge should be careful and lean not on the teachings of your neighbor or pastor and really do some research- hard to do I suppose if the KJV is all you have. I would look into History too. YES I know the Catholic Church has had it doors shaken by the devil pretty good, but we still stand and we will continue to do so. I thank God that I wasn‘t around in Luther’s day because I don’t know if I would be Catholic- what a shame that would be- and WHY is it that all non catholics think we are all experts on our religion. There is so much to learn. Sure we can except Christ as a child would – but there is still so much to learn on a spiritual journey.

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    • Sion
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 10:31am

      “Read Rev. 12 – Mary is Queen of heaven.”…..Revelation uses symbolism, the woman symbolized here is Israel.

      “-Peter was our first Pope.”…..Where in the Bible does it say Peter was in Rome? Matthew 8:14 shows us that Peter was married! How do you explain that?

      Matthew 23:9 Jesus tells us not to call anyone Father on the Earth, for one is our Father in Heaven.

      How many times in the past has a so-called infallible Pope made statements that turned out to be false. The Bible warns to flee false prophets. I believe in faith healing, but it is God that performs the miracle and it is God who should be given the Glory. Praise God, The Creator of Heaven and Earth!

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    • TakeBackAmerica
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 1:05pm

      Amen

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    • KITA
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 1:22pm

      Who says he is infalliable? He is part of our family on earth. Just as we look to our parents for guidance, we look to our pope for guidance as well… just as our parents aren’t perfect, neither is the pope. He is our father here on earth. Maybe you have this confused, but by calling our priest “Father” or the pope “Father” – we by no means, mean that he is our “Heavenly Father” They are our earthly Father who guides us the best they know how.

      Mary : There isn’t any symbolism here, but if that is what you want to say inorder to explain it away – go ahead. If you believe in the “free will” of interpretation, then you will allow me to interpret as the holy spirit allows.
      Taken from your KJV.

      1And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

      2And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

      3And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

      4And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

      5And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

      I’m not getting that this is Isreal ? This is Mary.
      All we ever do is continually explain away your concerns. It almost feels like the devil keeps us busy with you. We explain the best we can. I don’t meditate on the word as much as my priest does, or the nuns do. Why should I have more enlightenment then they do ?

      God does have the Glory, my friend. I truely wish you could understand.
      Peter was married and I bet he was married before Jesus appointed him with the keys to the kingdom- this is Jesus’ explanation of someone who will serve the kingdom…

      Matthew
      11 But He said to them, “All cannot accept this saying, but only those to whom it has been given: 12 For there are eunuchs who were born thus from their mother’s womb, and there are eunuchs who were made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He who is able to accept it, let him accept it.”

      Do you know what a eunuch is ? This explains why priests shall not marry and popes shall not marry – they set themselves aside for the kingdom. Not all who have chosen the lifestyle will be able to withstand the temptations of life – so we have found out. All are not perfect. Where is it that non-catholics pick up that the Pope in infalliable ?

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    • zorro
      Posted on January 20, 2011 at 1:09pm

      “Where in the bible…..”

      LOL.

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  • MrsSahm3
    Posted on January 18, 2011 at 9:01am

    Vatican II’s Constitution on the Church. “Not as individuals are we called to be saved, but as One Body.” Social justice, economic justice, community organizing…etc. http://www.ecatholic2000.com/sj/socjust.shtml#Catechism

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    • MaryLynnHam
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 11:22am

      I went to your link and it is a website that encourages Catholics to embrace social justice. I have no problem with that. I believe we all, as individuals, through chruch and charity should work for social justice. My problem with social justice is when the government is involved. There is no biblical support for this. Forceably taking my wages via taxes to support others denies my my right to give that money willingly. I resent this. I am Catholic and my husband and I do give 10% to church and charity on top of the taxes we pay. I would be able to give more directly to charities if the government did not take so much of our money and waste it on things that help no one.

      My problem with the website and your post is the claim that the Vatican supports collective salvation. I went to the Vatican website and pulled up the “Constitution on the Church” document you reference and could not find the wording you state, or that the website you link to states.

      What the Vatican document says is “God however does not make men holy and save them merely as individuals, without bond or link between one another. Rather has it pleased Him to bring men together as one people, a people which acknowldeges him in truth and serves Him in holiness.“ The omission of the word ”merely” by you, and the website you link to, changes the meaning intended by the document. In fact, the document does day we are saved as individuals. Further, the paragraph goes on to talk about the nation of Isreal and how God established a covenent with them as group. This is the context of the statement and the collective salvation it is talking about.

      If I were a cynical person, I would say that you and your website reworded and took this out of context to support your own agenda. I am not going to acuse you of that however. I am not a perfect person and perhaps I am just missing something? I did not read the entire document, just what was referenced. Is there another portion that you could link to on the Vatican site that supports your point?Please enlighten me, as I would be curious to read it.

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  • Tradman
    Posted on January 18, 2011 at 8:34am

    Seriously- I have no reason to pray to ANYONE other than to JESUS CHRIST, the ONE who sits at the right hand of the Father. Why would I ever pray to anyone other than to God Himself? I wouldnt. That was the purpose of Christ’s death- to remove the veil between us and God and to provide the holiness that no MAN could ever have without the blood of Christ being accounted to us.

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    • Lisa4Catholics
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 10:02am

      @Tradman
      To pray to a saint means to ask. We ask them to pray for us or someone else with us to Jesus, it is no different than asking your friend to pray for you. Jesus conquered death on the cross I for one will not give death back its sting.

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    • TakeBackAmerica
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 1:08pm

      It is different. Your friend is ALIVE! And you don‘t ’pray’ to him. YOU ASK HIM TO PRAY FOR YOU!

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    • GrannyATL
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 1:53pm

      TAKEBACKAMERICA, Bingo! We do not pray TO the saints in heaven. We ask them to pray FOR us in the same way we’d ask our neighbor or our pastor to pray for us. This is called “intercessory prayer.”

      Just as you would naturally seek out prayer warriors here on earth who are faithful believers, it is our belief that those who have died in God’s Grace continue to have the ability to be prayer warriors. They are still able to petition God on our behalf, even though we can’t see them.

      You may be interested in reading a fabulous book I read a couple of weeks ago. It’s called “Heaven Is Real” and is the true story about a 4-year-old boy who died on the operating table. In the book, his pastor father speaks with incredulity about those his son met in heaven that had a cognizant awareness of life on earth. Although not a Catholic book by any stretch, many of the discoveries shared by this little boy serve to reinforce many beliefs held by Catholics for centuries.

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    • YellowFin
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 8:57pm

      Grannyatl,
      you said; We do not pray TO the saints in heaven. We ask them to pray FOR us in the same way we’d ask our neighbor or our pastor to pray for us.

      This is not what the nun said. She said “she felt “reborn” on waking June 3, 2005 after she had prayed for healing to John Paul.” Someone is lying here. Is the nun lying or are you?

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    • YellowFin
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 9:10pm

      Grannyadl,

      I am sorry, I should not have called you a liar. You are a sincere catholic and I respect your right to make that choice. I do sometimes get carried away with my words. I do not like the confusion that we find in the religions of the world. I’m sorry for my outburst.

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  • Takeoutthegarbagenov2
    Posted on January 18, 2011 at 8:07am

    @JCONN-”To call yourself a saint in this life is the sin of presumption…presuming that you are going to heaven just because you said a single prayer and nothing else. Saints lived in close communion with God in this life no matter their station, vocation, etc. so yeah there”

    1Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, unto the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints which are in all Achaia: -2 Corinthians 1:1

    1Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus: Ephesians 1:1

    1Paul and Timotheus, the servants of Jesus Christ, to all the saints in Christ Jesus which are at Philippi, with the bishops and deacons: Philippians 1:1

    To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. -Colossians 1:2

    So tell us Jon, why was Paul calling these people saints? They’re not dead, they’re not in heaven. Please provide a sound BIBLICAL answer and not a man made religous one.

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  • Moment of Clarity
    Posted on January 18, 2011 at 5:17am

    what a bunch of hooey

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  • skimmer57
    Posted on January 17, 2011 at 10:38pm

    Who needs saint hood.If you are a mormon like glenn beck and did the good things that the pope did you will become a God!

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  • karenm
    Posted on January 17, 2011 at 10:37pm

    It makes me sad to see so called Christians bashing other religions which are Christian. Go check yourself in the mirror. I am not going to judge you..I’ll just say a prayer for you.

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  • Deutscher
    Posted on January 17, 2011 at 10:16pm

    It sounds like you may be an agnostic brother. :-)

    I think it’s human nature to have the us/them mentality. I sometimes have days where I have had to deal with religious people and can let the absurdity of some statements push me to respond when I should not. I think if most could step back as you have, and look at how their beliefs/statements look from a distance, they would listen more and talk less.

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  • 82dAirborne
    Posted on January 17, 2011 at 10:04pm

    I am hoping that someone here can help me understand something….. I do not hold strong religious beliefs in one direction or another. I wish I did because I see the comfort and strength it gives some folks. I’m working on that.

    This is what is completely beyond my understanding: Why do some of you feel so compelled to bash and insult another’s beliefs? What do you get out of that? What’s the payoff?

    Lots of us yell/scream/complain & fight against the extremist Muslims who want to force their thinking on us. When some of you bash another American’s religion or religious practices are you not, in essence, doing the EXACT SAME THING??????

    This isn’t politics. Why don’t you guys take a deep breath and lay off.

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    • onegodinkansas
      Posted on January 17, 2011 at 11:38pm

      1 Tim 1:3-4
      3 As I besought thee to abide still at Ephesus, when I went into Macedonia, that thou mightest charge some that they teach no other doctrine,

      4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
      KJV

      Eph 4:4-6
      There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;

      5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

      6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
      KJV

      Jude 3-4
      3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

      4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
      KJV

      Ps 119:104
      104 Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.
      KJV

      …I‘m just sayin’.

      Mark 12:24
      24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?
      KJV

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    • dontbotherme
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 12:40am

      82dairborne – You have shown the love of God in your questioning & statement more than a lot of people who respond here. I believe that God has used you here to help us who attack each other. Perhaps it will awaken all of us to, as you say, stop attacks & unite. God works through people such as yourself all the time. Praise Him for that.

      A lot of the anger & hatred spewed here comes from satan. He does not want anyone to turn to God, & he, too, uses people to do his works. You will recognize his evil works by those who name call, lie, twist the truth, mock believers, demean goodness, take the Word of God (the Bible) out of context for the purpose of trickery…

      It may help you to know our Lord, Jesus Christ, if you read “The Sermon on the Mount”. Look at the New International Version (NIV) of the Bible- it’s the easiest to understand- Matthew, Chapters 5, 6 & 7. God Bless you in your search.

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    • Bearfoot
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 1:55am

      There are those who sincerely want to teach God’s Word, the Bible, in an accurate way.
      There is a true congregation. This has to be, because Jesus guaranteed that he would be with his congregation always. We cannot accept that he would be a party in misleading his people.
      Because there exists many confusing theories and unique interpretations of the Bible, people are distressed due to their inability to get accurate understanding. A person needs to actually read and study the Bible to get this knowledge, there is no other way.
      Before we say a thing and teach it as fact, we need to make sure it is in the Bible and that we are not misrepresenting its meaning in trying to prove a certain point

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    • watchmany2k
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 1:57am

      Satan can do NOTHING without the assistance of man.
      We are the key, we hold the supreme CHOICE individually.
      He can tempt, and lie, and appear to be beauty itself.
      He will also be the adversary saying “see this man chose this”
      But he is nothing without a willing partner, except his short season at the end.

      Those who bash other Christian faiths are either in revolt, or immature in their own faith.

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    • zorro
      Posted on January 20, 2011 at 1:04pm

      “Before we say a thing and teach it as fact, we need to make sure it is in the Bible and that we are not misrepresenting its meaning in trying to prove a certain point”

      Huh? Why does everything have to be in the bible? Where in the bible does it say I should only follow what’s in the bible? If I read the bible and the Holy Spirit tells me something that is different from what the Spirit has told you, who is right?

      This “bible only” concept is so silly and ignorant.

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  • Takeoutthegarbagenov2
    Posted on January 17, 2011 at 10:02pm

    Paul addressed most of his letters to the churches as “Saints”. These people were still alive and nobody had to “prove” they perfromed a miracle. A Salvation expereince is the ultimate miracle, and ANYONE who puts their trust in Jesus Christ is a Saint-Period. Paul makes it clear in Galatians that Salvation is Faith + Nothing. If you’re reading this, and you are a follower of Jesus, congratulations, you’re a saint!

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    • jcons114
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:32am

      Letter of James: “Faith without works is dead”.or Faith – works=nothing…faith is the essential ingredient but works is how that faith manifests itself in your life. The works are a product of your faith…and sorry…until you are in heaven, you are no saint. That is a title reserved for those who are in heaven. To call yourself a saint in this life is the sin of presumption…presuming that you are going to heaven just because you said a single prayer and nothing else. Saints lived in close communion with God in this life no matter their station, vocation, etc. so yeah there

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  • coffinman
    Posted on January 17, 2011 at 10:00pm

    Although I am an Atheist, I believe that it’s a GOOD thing that there is Christianity/Catholosizm here in the USA. It helps to keep us on the straight and narrow. I suspect that the folks who insult the Faith(s) have gone through the same thing I did as a youth…horrible, repeated sexual abuse by religious leaders in a position of trust over a few years time. I hope that’s NOT the case, however, because I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.

    Best wishes to my religious and non-religious fellow conservatives

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    • dontbotherme
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 12:00am

      Coffinman – God bless you. Please do not judge God based on the sinful acts of man. He loves you & knows you by name. Please forgive us.

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  • lastbastion
    Posted on January 17, 2011 at 9:54pm

    If any of you doubters truly understood the Catholic faith, you would understand that “prayers” to a saint or other holy person are not any type of worship. I pray the rosary every day. It is not any type of adoration, but rather, an intercession to Mary, the Mother of God, (who is a saint in heaven by my standards) to send Her special requests to Her Son and God, Our Father, to direct the Holy Spirit into my life for today. I don’t “worship” Mary. I don’t “worship” John Paul. I worship God! But I believe He knows my devotion and seriousness when my prayers are appreciated by special men and women who have walked the face of the Earth and who we here consider holy. I sometimes talk to my dead grandmothers too. I remember how wonderful they were in my life and how they taught me the beauty of love. I believe their special affection for me has tremendous influence in the afterlife. Nobody ever asked for beatification of them.

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    • TheGreyPiper
      Posted on January 17, 2011 at 10:23pm

      Best just to bail outta here now and disregard the coming tidal wave of ignorant sewage.

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    • Bearfoot
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 1:34am

      lastbastion,

      And where in the Bible is anything you just said written?

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    • caitlynsdad
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 10:00am

      @Bearfoot
      Where in the Bible does it say you have to prove it from the Bible?

      But you might try: (1) 1 Timothy 2:1: “I exhort therefore, that first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men.” If verse 5 means that Christ is our ONLY mediator, as opposed to our “ONE” mediator (meaning that all mediation is IN him, not necessarily BY him), then why is St. Paul just four verses earlier asking Christians themselves to be intercessors for all? You need to remember that no one prays TO the dead in Christ; that’s a misnomer. Instead, Catholics ask for them to intercede on their behalf, the same way I would ask a friend or relative to pray for me. See also James 5:16: “The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.” Who more righteous than the dead in Christ?

      (2) Luke 16:19-31. The rich man in Hades asks Abraham to intercede on behalf of his brothers who are still alive on earth. There seems to be an understanding in Christ’s parable that (a) those in heaven can hear us and know what’s going on; (b) that they can intercede on our behalf; (c) that we can ask them to intercede on our behalf (or on behalf of others).

      (3) Matt. 22:31-32. “But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.”

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    • WhiteFang
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 11:43am

      If you can’t prove it in the Bible, then the teaching is unscriptural. It is falsehood, worthless.
      Of course some people do not care about this, but others take the Bible very seriously.

      We all can see when a religion is a bunch of hooey. By their fruits, what they produce, you can recognize them.
      We should also be able to see what a true Christian looks and acts like.

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    • caitlynsdad
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 12:00pm

      @Whitefang
      “If it’s not in the Bible, it’s unscriptural.”
      Yes, I would say that’s true. I would also say it’s a tautology and proves nothing. “If it’s not in Charles Dickens, then it’s non-Dickensian”; “if it didn’t happen in America, then it happened outside America.”

      Just because I don‘t believe in Sola Scriptura doesn’t mean I don’t take the Bible seriously. All it means is that I don’t look to the Bible **exclusively**. Indeed, Sola Scriptura fails its own test. The doctrine of sola scriptura is nowhere to be found in the Bible, which means that it is a tradition of men.

      Your final paragraph strikes me as a bunch of empty platitudes that prove nothing.

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  • coffinman
    Posted on January 17, 2011 at 9:43pm

    I’m happy she no longer suffers from the terrible symptoms, however….MIRACLE = Spontaineous Remission = Placebo Effect = Coincidence = Inaccurate Diagnosis = Provarication = Conspiracy = Cover-Up = More Belief = More Control = More Donations = More Bling @ Vatican City

    People will believe whatever they are predisposed to believe…………Just sayin’ “…Question with Boldness!!!” GB 2010

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    • dontbotherme
      Posted on January 17, 2011 at 11:57pm

      Coffinman – You didn’t read the report or watch the video did you? Faith in God who works through people via the Holy Spirit does result in miracles. God Bless you. You are worthy of God’s love.

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  • GrannyATL
    Posted on January 17, 2011 at 9:39pm

    That “correction” is totally uncalled for, Mossbrain. Whether you agree with the Catholic Church’s stand, your insult only shows you to be a bully.

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    • 82dAirborne
      Posted on January 17, 2011 at 10:09pm

      Am I going blind? I don’t see a post from MOSSBRAIN.

      82dAirborne  
    • Bearfoot
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 1:40am

      That is the problem, people say or believe a thing even if it is not written. Either here or in the Bible.

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    • Lisa4Catholics
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 9:57am

      @bearfoot like solaScriptura?

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  • Stronge
    Posted on January 17, 2011 at 9:37pm

    My favourite kind of miracle is the kind where geese fly in a perfectly normal fashion.

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  • Follower
    Posted on January 17, 2011 at 9:31pm

    Why did you post that?

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    • Follower
      Posted on January 17, 2011 at 9:57pm

      My above post was in response to MOSSBRAIN’s “correction.

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  • IA_PASTOR
    Posted on January 17, 2011 at 9:31pm

    Happy for her and yes pope john was a great man but the glory goes to God period!

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    • GrannyATL
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:18pm

      IA_Pastor, you misunderstand. The glory always goes to God! He alone performs a miracle. We simply ask others to pray with us for that miracle. Some are here beside us. Others have already gone to heaven to be with Our Lord. We do not believe that after someone has died they have lost their ability to pray for us. As a matter of fact, we believe they are eager to pray for us.

      Even though this nun asked Pope John Paul II to pray along with her for a complete recovery, there is never at any moment the belief that John Paul himself was the instrument of the miracle. Only God can provide a miracle and all the glory goes to Him alone!

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    • FromtheBasement
      Posted on January 19, 2011 at 11:33am

      I’m with you on this, IA_Pastor. Why can’t we just be happy that this woman was diagnosed with a horrible disease and is doing better, now? When did this become a place to bash Catholics or other people who may not worship God the way you do? It boggles the mind.

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  • mendolover
    Posted on January 17, 2011 at 9:25pm

    Baloney.

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  • Rob
    Posted on January 17, 2011 at 9:15pm

    She should have prayed for better teeth.

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  • psycodad36
    Posted on January 17, 2011 at 9:13pm

    I’m not catholic,am a christian,GOD BLESS.prayers are answered.best to the nun

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  • @the_WEDGE
    Posted on January 17, 2011 at 9:13pm

    The Bible does say not to pray or talk to the dead, and with the Catholic Churches history, sounds a little satanic to me.

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    • GrannyATL
      Posted on January 17, 2011 at 9:44pm

      So, is this going to be a Catholic bashing thread?

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    • Augustina
      Posted on January 17, 2011 at 11:40pm

      @the_WEDGE…..This is not true what you are saying.. In Lk 16:19-30..departed rich man intercedes for his brothers..In Hebbrews 12:1 – we are surrounded by a cloud of witnesses…Rev: 6:9-11 – martyrs under the altar want earthly vindication. etc.

      If you are a Lutheran, your sect was founded by Martin Luther, an ex-monk of the Catholic Church, in the year 1517.

      If you belong to the Church of England (Anglican), your sect was founded by King Henry VIII in the year 1534 because the pope could not grant him an annulment from his true and lawful wife, Catherine of Aragon, with the right to re-marry.

      If your Presbyterian, your sect was founded by John Knox in Scotland in the year 1560.

      If your an Episcopalian, your denomination was an offshoot of the Church of England founded by Samuel Seabury in the American colonies in the 17th century.

      If your a Methodist, your denomination was launched by John and Charles Wesley in England in 1744.

      If your a Mormon of the Church of the Latter-day Saints, Joseph Smith Jr., started your religion in Palmyra, New York, in 1829.

      If your a Baptist, you owe the tenets of your sect to John Smyth, who launched it in Amsterdam in 1605.

      If your a Christian Scientist, you look to 1879 as the year in which your religion was born and to Mrs. Mary Baker Eddy as its founder.

      If your a Jehovah Witness, your religion was invented by Pastor Charles Taze Russell in 1874 and incorporated 1881.

      If your a traditional Roman Catholic, you know that your Church was founded in the year 33 A.D. by Jesus Christ, the Messias, the Son of God.

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    • stlcardsfan
      Posted on January 17, 2011 at 11:44pm

      Ever notice how the devil only attacks the Catholic Church? It’s because it is the only threat to him on this Earth.

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    • @the_WEDGE
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 12:56am

      There’s only one HOLY FATHER, and He’s on His throne in Heaven!

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    • Bearfoot
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 1:29am

      Augusttina, You said;
      “If your a traditional Roman Catholic, you know that your Church was founded in the year 33 A.D. by Jesus Christ, the Messias, the Son of God.”

      I do have to say this, The true congregation (church) was indeed founded at Pentecost of the year 33, and our Lord Jesus is the head of the Christian Congregation and it is guided by Jesus himself.

      The serious question for all of us is, how can we identify the true Christian Congregation today?
      There are hundreds of separate religions claiming to be the true one. Taking into account the behavior and reputations of these different congregation, their record of showing love or hatred for their brothers, who would we say reflects true, sincere Christian conduct?
      1 John 4:20-21

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    • jcons114
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:16am

      Second Maccabees clearly gives us a story of how Judas Maccabeus payed for sacrifices to be done because of the jewish soldiers who wore pagan talismans to battle and died. “Therefore is is a godly thing to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from their sins”….that’s in bible buddy! But that’s right…Martin Luther discarded books like 2 Maccabees because he didn’t like them!

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    • gzwrbc
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 5:13am

      GrannyATL: trust me, it ALWAYS is.

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    • Lisa4Catholics
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 9:53am

      What is satanic is to put the sting back into death. With God all things are possible and since death does not seperate the Christian from Christ and we are all His body and He himself said that Body can not be divided, since I believe Jesus can not deceive and I believe scripture which did not fall out of heaven into a printing press (yeah thank the Catholic Christians for putting the Bible in canon) I will ask(pray old english) for the saints to pray for me to Jesus, just like I would ask my neighbor.

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    • WhiteFang
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 11:19am

      Augusttina:

      Your statement; If your a Jehovah Witness, your religion was invented by Pastor Charles Taze Russell in 1874 and incorporated 1881.

      Your using the word “invented” is not accurate. The Bible was not “invented” by Mr. Russell. In the late 1800′s he and a group of Bible students began an earnest study of the Bible. This led to an accurate understanding of the times we live in, and the true nature of the Lord Jesus and his kingship of the Kingdom of God. Study leads to knowledge!
      Matthew chapter 24 and 25 ( and the rest of the entire Bible).

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    • zorro
      Posted on January 20, 2011 at 1:34pm

      Augustina wrote YOUR RELIGION WAS INVENTED…which is was. Not the Bible. Just the very ill-informed interpretation of the Bible was INVENTED by Russell.

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  • Islesfordian
    Posted on January 17, 2011 at 8:49pm

    I really respect the Catholic Church and the current Pope, but the whole deal with canonizing people strikes me as absurd. JPII was a holy man, a saint while he lived. He is even holier now in heaven with the Lord. What more is needed?

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    • angelcat
      Posted on January 17, 2011 at 9:20pm

      Canonization is just a public way of acknowledging the saintly life of a person.

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    • gzwrbc
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 5:11am

      You just defined “Saint.”

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  • RobertCA
    Posted on January 17, 2011 at 8:39pm

    Pope John Paul II was a great Pope , I wished that the current Pope had learned something from John Paul II .

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    • YellowFin
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 1:06am

      “she felt “reborn” on waking June 3, 2005 after she had prayed for healing to John Paul.”

      You are to pray to the Almighty God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob, and only through the ransom sacrifice paid by His Son, Jesus Christ.

      A man (a pope) in his fallen condition is not qualified to be prayed to. The arrogance is appalling!

      The sins of the catholic church, in misleading those Christ died for is disgusting.

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    • watchmany2k
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:05am

      @Yellowfin

      A Catholic does not pray to anyone but God and Christ.
      The dead in Christ are not dead, but ALIVE.
      All are allowed to ask for intercession, no different than asking a pastor to “put in a good word” in his prayers. Similar to the Holy Spirit interceeding on your behalf.
      They are there, we are here, where is the harm ?

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    • jcons114
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 2:18am

      @ yellow fin: but a person in heaven is NOT in a fallen state….but a perfected, blessed state.

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    • tower7femacamp
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 5:56am

      Gun control: Church firmly, quietly opposes firearms for civilians
      Friday, January 14, 2011
      By Catholic News S…
      By Carol Glatz, Catholic News Service
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      VATICAN CITY (CNS) — The Catholic Church’s position on gun control is not easy to find; there are dozens of speeches and talks and a few documents that call for much tighter regulation of the global arms trade, but what about private gun ownership?

      The answer is resoundingly clear: Firearms in the hands of civilians should be strictly limited and eventually completely eliminated.

      But you won’t find that statement in a headline or a document subheading. It’s almost hidden in a footnote in a document on crime by the U.S. bishops‘ conference and it’s mentioned in passing in dozens of official Vatican texts on the global arms trade.

      The most direct statement comes in the bishops’ “Responsibility, Rehabilitation and Restoration: A Catholic Perspective on Crime and Criminal Justice” from November 2000.

      “As bishops, we support measures that control the sale and use of firearms and make them safer — especially efforts that prevent their unsupervised use by children or anyone other than the owner — and we reiterate our call for sensible regulation of handguns.”

      That’s followed by a footnote that states: “However, we believe that in the long run and with few exceptions — i.e. police officers, military use — handguns should be eliminated from our society.”
      That in turn reiterates a line in the bishops’ 1990 pastoral statement on substance abuse, which called “for effective and courageous action to control handguns, leading to their eventual elimination from our society.”

      On the world stage, the Vatican has been pushing for decades for limitations not just on conventional weapons of warfare, such as tanks and missiles, but also for stricter limitations on the illegal and legal sale, trade and use of small firearms and weapons, said Tommaso Di Ruzza, the expert on disarmament and arms control at the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace.

      Di Ruzza told Catholic News Service that the Vatican is one of just a handful of states that would like to see small arms and weapons included in the U.N. Arms Trade Treaty, which would better regulate the flow of conventional arms.

      He said while many countries are open to limits on larger weapons systems, most nations aren’t interested in regulating small arms even though they “cause more deaths than all other arms (conventional and non-conventional) together.”

      The Vatican’s justice and peace council is working to update its 1994 document, “The International Arms Trade,” to further emphasize the importance of enacting concrete controls on handguns and light weapons, he said.

      The current document calls on every nation and state “to impose a strict control on the sale of handguns and small arms. Limiting the purchase of such arms would certainly not infringe on the rights of anyone.”

      The more weapons there are in circulation, the more likely terrorists and criminals will get their hands on them, the document said.

      The Catholic Church recognizes that “states will need to be armed for reason of legitimate defense,” as Pope Benedict XVI said in a message to a Vatican-sponsored disarmament conference in April 2008.

      However, armed defense is something appropriate for nations, not for all individual citizens in a state where rule of law is effective, said Di Ruzza.
      http://www.uscatholic.org/news/2011/01/gun-control-church-firmly-quietly-opposes-firearms-civilians

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    • sWampy
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 10:26am

      God does miracles, giving a man credit is one of the reasons I question the sincerity of the catholic church. That and the way they pump up 3rd world dictators keeping these catholic dominated nations dirt poor, with a few rich dictators and the church wealthy.

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    • WhiteFang
      Posted on January 18, 2011 at 11:05am

      True Christians pray only to the true God through His Son, Jesus.
      They do not pray to a dead man who is waiting and hoping in the resurrection.
      Even if you believe the pope is in heaven with Christ, even then you do not pray to him.
      If you want to believe in your falsehoods, go ahead but God’s Word does not sanction such teachings.
      Matthew 6:9, Philippians, Psalm 5:1-2 4:6

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