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NY Daily News Exclusive: Gunman Hid Creepy Skull Shrine in His Yard
- Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:18am by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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The New York Daily News has obtained exclusive photos showing a creepy, morbid shrine in the yard of Arizona gunman Jared Lee Loughner. The shrine includes a human skull — which the Daily News says is a replica — surrounded by rotting oranges and sitting atop a flower pot. It was discovered in the back yard of Loughner’s house and hidden beneath a camouflage tent:





















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Speak without Fear
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:12amHow do you hid a cult shrine? The camoflague tent didn’t peak the curiosity of his parents? Did they think he just had the tent up to pretend camp in the backyard?
Report Post »Political CorrectnessWillBeTheDeathOfUsAll
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:28amIn the picture, inside the house, is that an alter? I wonder if the parents were involved in the occult, too.
Report Post »UpstateNYConservative
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:08amTrying to make political hay of this only absolves the shooter in a sense, by making baseless claims within hours of the tragedy. It’s obvious something is wrong with him and has been a long time. But right away the media all but starting trying to give him excuses.
I don‘t know if that’s a form of delusion on the part of those who started down that road, but it surely smacks of bad journalism.
Report Post »GeeWhiz
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 10:50amIt’s more than bad journalism, it’s the equivalent of ignoring all medical knowledge and interest about how the human body works. It’s the equivalent of believing in snake oil in my mind.
Where is the intellectualism that the far left is so supposedly enamoured with? To me, if they were both smart and educated, they would use what we in the field already know as opposed to running around grabbing snippets of fact from here to yonder and turning it into a bad soap opera.
I’m dead serious about that. WHERE is the intellectualism that is so desparately needed at a time like this? Isn’t this exactly when one should use it?
The man has severe mental issues, that’s painfully obvious. To try to turn a mental condition into a political agenda is just craven, especially if they’re educated enough to know what the real truth is. Downright unethical.
Unless they‘re really not as ’educated’ than they purport themselves to be. Then file ALL of these stories under ‘Stupid’.
Report Post »GeeWhiz
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:08amA crazy man is not political, he’s just crazy. The press is calling him a ‘truther’, also. He’s not any of those things, he’s just nuttier than a fruitcake. When you try to look for logic in crazy thinking, you’re going to just chase your tail.
You cannot make sense out of what is merely a jumble of irrational thought. His train of thought has no train tracks, let alone a caboose. If he were non-aggressive, he’d be the guy mumbling to himself at the bus stop. Being dangerously aggressive on top of crazy is what has us discussing him here today.
He’s definitely a candidate for the rubber room and lots of soothing chemical restraint…in a bulding surrounded by razor wire, after you throw away the key.
Report Post »Chaz1
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:03amSimply put……He is nuttier than a can of cashews!!!
Report Post »Cuthalu
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:00amClearly proof of a right wing! Hey, wait a minute…..
Report Post »Freedom1984
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:00amWhat is truly scary is how this is totally going to tear the country apart even farther than it is now.
And BO, rather than saying… “people let’s stick TOGETHER, and put this is perspective, there was an insane person out there, that did this…” He is taking the opportunity to blame the Conservatives and Tea Party. And people are believing his rhetoric and the main stream rhetoric…and the hate is already being fed more fuel.
The country is divided already, and now this. BO and his progressive buddies are probably glad that this “tragedy happened” because now it gives them yet another reason to focus on GUN CONTROL, and to stop “Town Hall meeting styles…” because remember when those were going on? The conservatives were pretty much yelling and demanding answers from the liberals, who could provide none.
The scary thing is this is EXACLTY what BO was looking for. And our country is eating it up.
Report Post »civilunrestnow
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:58amMy skull shrine is hidden by my gun safe, framed honorable discharge, award for saving people from a burning building and 6 months worth of emergency rations…where is yours?
Report Post »green_manalishi
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:57amSince the (Scull)sic appears to be a model ( non-human origin ) than I suppose we can except an immitation spelling. Just another facet of the dope smoking scary liberal registered democrat child killer. Way to go Keith Olberman, your killing off your own mental age group.
Report Post »Certitude
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:57amProgressives lost no time on capitalizing (socializing) on a random act of violence, by inventing a crisis of free speech issues then proposing an abridgement of free speech to solve it. The real shame is that Liberals are responsible over the last 40 years, for the destruction of mental health hospitals under the falacy of protecting the mentally ill.
Report Post »MidWestMom
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:55amThis act was not based on political views – right or left.
The shooter’s “rambling discourse & statements” are nothing more than self-invented justification (albeit insane) to feed his burgeoning delusions. In other words, any fire must have fuel to keep burning – and his insanity demanded the fire blaze on. Think Hinkley – his shooting of President Reagan was a culmination of his certainty that Jodie Foster would “like” him if he could just get her attention. President Reagan was the biggest log he could throw on his fire.
The same tragedy could just as easily occur anywhere else – from a tiny town in Maine to a huge city like Houston – with the “target” being anyone – and the “reason” anything under the sun. You just can’t predict crazy.
Unfortunately, both the right & the left will spin this tragedy for their own benefit – pointing fingers at the other side, gun control, immigration etc etc. Shameful.
Report Post »Extinguisher
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:49amThat’s a cheezy story… Next they are going to focus on the fact that he listened to death metal and start blaming music, movies and video games.
Report Post »JohnnyJT
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:49amHey, don’t all of us Tea Party members have a skull shrines?
Report Post »exdem
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:11amI know I do !!!!!!! It’s a Lipton Tea box in a giant teacup surrounded by crosshair maps with pictures of Rush , Beck and Palin surrounding it.The teacup has grizzly bears on it and I kneel in front of it and drink tea chanting 2012,2012,2012,2012,2012……
Report Post »SnapTie
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:42amLets just all come to reason and except the fact this jerk was neither left or right.He was just very mentally unstable.
Report Post »Hobo Boondocks
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:41amThis appears to be more of an occult shrine. People who are not quite all there mentally and become involved in this type of activity are a danger to either themselves or others. Where are his parent(s)? It’s not like the media to fail to be camped outside the home, waiting to ask questions. We know the authorities have been there going over and through everything, but it’s not like the media to show at least a panning shot of the home and the other news organization’s equipment set up outside the home. One wonders if the parents and relatives have gone into seclusion. If they will, they can provide some insight into his condition.
Report Post »VanGrungy
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:43amThe Thule Society informed hitler’s views…
Hitler hated Jesus.. Christians had been subverted for decades leading up to 1933.. hitler institutionalized the destruction of traditional ‘Jesus is God’ Christianity …
He set himself up as Messiah…
Report Post »benrush
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:37amHow is a scull like a skull?
Report Post »Wiz001
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:36amAnd his parent were clueless that this was going on??? What is up with parents today?? Come on people when will society wake up and make people responsible for what their young people do?? I know you can’t watch them 24/7 but you could ask question and ACTUALLY listen to the response… How many time a day do you say to someone “how are you?” and they answer something like I’m ok, but you can tell something is not right, and you walk away not knowing, and they think you are just not caring.. One minute more and that person may have talked to you about something important to them, and you may learn something in the process.. I do not mean to sound all sappy but we need to start caring for each other and LISTENING to each other.. Just try it today and see what happens..
God Bless Our Troops…
Report Post »exdem
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:05amAs parents of a mentally ill adult child your hands are tied to force them into treatment without a lot of evidence and this folks, is alot of evidence!! Between schools, classmates, friends and parents it seems everyone knew he was a ticking time bomb. However the only evidence the media and the Sheriff are aware of is Sarah Palins crosshair map and conservative radio and TV. The media is such a JOKE!!!
Report Post »Taquoshi
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 10:10amFor years, we had one of my spouse’s former classmates that would periodically stalk us. He never did anything that was “actionable”, but we did finally contact the family and tell them, “Look, we’re tired of this, deal with it or we’ll start calling the police every time he contacts us.” They explained that their hands were tied, but they became more viligant and he passed away from cancer a few years ago.
There are at least two other acquaintances that have become increasingly bizarre over the years and quite truthfully, nothing can be done until they actually break the law. It’s not an easy situation and quite honestly, you never know what will set them off. One time I happened to see one of these characters in a parking lot of a grocery store. That resulted in a flurry of harassing phone calls that eventually ended when he called someone else and actually made a viable threat. Since then, it’s been quiet and please God, it will remain that way.
Report Post »Highland
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:32amThere must be some way to blame this on Beck or Palin, though.
Report Post »Lesterp
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:46amThe left is working overtime trying to!
Report Post »Freedom1984
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:20amIt’s not so much that the media IS BLAMING Sarah and Glenn…. it’s that people BELIEVE what the MEDIA tells them because they have NEVER REALLY WATCHED GLENN or Listened to Sarah… Glenn is such a NON-VIOLENT PERSON… In fact I can’t remember when his show was on when he did not mention… ‘THAT VIOLENCE WASN’T THE ANSWER”…..
Report Post »The liberals that believe this crap and are so full of hatred towards the right, they are very scary, because they jump to conclusions based on what they are being spoon fed by the main stream media.
IvanK
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:32amHere’s my problem with all this cr@p – Is this scumbag going to get to spent the rest of his life like J Hinckle has or is he going to get the needle like he deserves?
Report Post »NickDeringer
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:31amIn spite of this there will be books out within a few months explaining how Sarah Palin shot and killed 6 people in AZ.
Truth is irrelevant to a lynch mob. We must stand our ground and tell the truth. Don’t let them intimidate you.
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:56amAlot of people are not buying into this garbage, I saw this on another site and copied it
Democrat Confederate soldier John Wilkes Booth who shot President Lincoln.
Democrat psychpath turned Soviet Russia citizen Lee Harvey Oswald who shot President Kennedy.
Another democrat psychopath unable to get it up so he killed teenage women; Theodore Robert “Ted” Bundy.
How about the alcoholic cannibal Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer.
Then there was President Clinton supporters Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold of the Columbine High School massacre.
Virginia Tech shooter Seung-Hui Cho who shot 57 people killing 32.
This is a list that goes into perpetuity.
Now I didn’t fact check this it is just something I saw along with alot of other comments that far outnumber the posts blaming Palin. Hopefully people will see past the spin and realise that this gut was just nuts.
Report Post »NickDeringer
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:04am@untameable-kate
You forgot the whack job John W. Hinckley who tried to assassinate Ronald Reagan. He says he did it to try to impress Jodie Foster. Has Jodie ever apologized?
Report Post »GeauxAlready
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:27amThis guy is a child of the left. Obama’s minions are all around this guy, This is what they wanted, now they will come for our guns, internet(Muller FBI), and our free speech. This will be used by Obama to take more controll over “We the People”…………………..
Report Post »joseph Fawcett
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:25amThis is not the evidence of someone on the right or the left, but someone who is honestly mentally and spiritually sick. God have mercy on all of us and protect us from people like this guy.
http://www.josephfawcettart.com please pray for my younger brother Anthony Fawcett he is in England. He had a massive heart attack and contracted H1N1 flu and is now very close to death, I believe in Miracles. Thanks!
Report Post »VanGrungy
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:32amThe material that guided his psychosis is clearly on the Left of thinking..
And obviously his marksmanship and calm under stress is a result of training for the act he committed..
The warning signs were there.. He got a pass because of his ‘left’ thinking ways…
just sayin..
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:38amAlthough what’s trickling out is that politically, this guy is in that weird spot where extreme Right and extreme Left loop back around and join the other side (That’s the same spot the Nazi/Fascist movement was so no surprise he’s supposedly ricist and antisemitic), it isn’t fair to either side to call this guy “Right” or “Left.”
Clearly, he’s just a Nutbag!
Report Post »VanGrungy
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:47amleftfighter..
Right = American here
There was no Right in Europe at the time… Nazis were just a different form of Left..
Europe is a different paradigm.. your analysis of nazi/fascism is false… thus continuing the nazi=right wing lie that has infected our discourse for so long..
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:39am@leftfighter, that is one of the things Beck has wrong, it’s not a circle, it’s a pyramid, With those that won’t to help the world and put the good of all above selfishness known currently as the left in top point, And then the evil, and the ignorant making up the bottom 2 points. The democrats/communists/progressives all go in the evil or ignorant baskets, it’s just really hard to figure out which they go in, but they strive to raise the level of garbage at the bottom.
Report Post »APatriotFirst
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 11:26amJoseph…..I hope you are able to be with your brother at this time. Any prayers I send would not be heard, but I send you my heartfelt hope that all will be good. And may your brother heal and be around for many many more years. If your brother is even half as strong as you, he will be ok.
Report Post »patriot4ever
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:25amit keeps getting weirder!!!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:00amActually, it keeps getting more predictable. Wish they had discovered all this prior to Saturday but with PC, people were probably hesitant to assume anything.
Report Post »mgibs363
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:23amSpooooooky.
Report Post »Ray2447
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 10:45amHe reads the Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf as well as makes shrines and sacrifices to demonic looking figurines. He appears to me like one more Godless, wacky Marxist. Did he by chance ever take any of the following classes: Sociology, Women’s Studies, or any other of the heavily leftist influenced liberal studies class? It would go a long way in explaining how he developed his mindset. Maybe the Dem’s. who want to regulate hateful speech should look at those curriculums first.
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:23amWe already knew he has more than a few screws loose. I would have been surprised if they hadn’t found something like this around his house.
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:59amHe lived very near to the Safeway where he committed this heinous crime. I don’t think he gave a fig wether he was shooting a D or an R he just wanted to kill a political fugure.
Report Post »VanGrungy
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:20amTucson Twinkie
Report Post »BeckIsNuts
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:32amCult like? Interesting.
TXPilot
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:37amInsane, left-winger with violent tendencies and cult-like beliefs…….what shall we do?…..oh, I know…blame conservatives and pass lots of new laws to take more of our rights away…..The top is coming down folks….It appears the Progressives may get the war they want after all, sad to say.
Report Post »Xcori8r
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:39amWow, that looks just like the one in my basement under the Sarah Palin portrait.
VanGrungy
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:44amBetter throw out your skull ashtrays… Stoners beware…
Report Post »exdem
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 8:56am@Beckisnuts Progressives are cult like- What does your shrine to Soros look like?
Report Post »happyboy
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:01amDOES ANYONE SEE A TEA BAG ON THIS SHRINE? NO!
But there is a bag of GREEN fertilizer. This looks like a satanic shrine, the same kind most Democrats have hidden in their back yards.
Report Post »happyboy
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:05amNOW THAT EVIDENCE IMMERGES THAT ASSASIN IS A DEMOCRAT THE STATE NEWS MEDIA CLAIMS HE IS JUST UN-HINGED.
See, yesterday within minutes of the massecure, the State News Media was blasting out reports that the assasin with a right wing conservative. Now the news emerges that he is a Democrat with satan shrines in his yard and the State News Media changes it story that the assasin is just a misunderstood toubled minded person in need of help. If ever investigated we will find a path from this assasin right back to the Whte House.
Report Post »tower7femacamp
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:15amthe deaths head is Illuminati’s favorit symbol
Report Post »skull and bones ?
BeckIsNuts
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:26amsticks and stones exdem. BTW, Glenneth sounds like he’s about to blow a gasket this morning. I think he senses his days as a fear-mongering DJ with a God complex are numbered.
forestnomad
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:30amHe was a: Gun Lover, Gold Lover and Gold Standard Proponent, Pro Life, Anti-Government Advocate, Anti-Immigrant, Anti-Naturalization, and referred to the ‘Second Constitution’.
Does that REALLY sound like a ‘liberal’ to you?
VanGrungy
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:40amHe was ANTI-FED RESERVE!!!
not Government at all…
He hated the Fed because he believed the “evil Joos” run the Fed…
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:41amforestnomad
Report Post »You might as well stop. The pig was a registered Democrat, he wanted to go target shooting with ‘his friends’ early last year even though he had never shown interest in guns before. Give it a rest, you are uninterested in the facts and you’re pulling stuff out of your azz and calling it true. Do a little reading from an unbiased source maybe?
VanGrungy
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:45amHitler was an occult fanatic… Thule Society..
Yet another ‘leftist’ connection…
Report Post »exdem
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 10:09am@Beckisnuts- so you listen to Becks radio show, TV show and read and comment on the Blaze all day? Sounds like someone has a crush on Beck !!! Are you just trying to get his attention by pretending not to like him? Or are you an obsessed stalker and agitator and we should be paying attention to these warning signs? Have you sought mental help? I think we should be concerned about the things YOU might be capable of.
BeckIsNuts
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 10:46amThe killer is insane and it is not Sarah Palin’s fault for using register marks (not gun sights) on her campaign poster. However, as I have been writing on The Blaze for the past few weeks, Beck’s rhetoric, and the hot-tempered knee-jerk reaction to my fair criticism of it from many Blaze bloggers, is paranoid and irresponsible. It hurts the conservative cause, as I’ve said time and again here. Now everyone can see why. The media is spinning this event into an attack on conservatives like Palin and the Tea Party movement, exactly as I feared. I‘ve been warning my contacts in the political arena about this and now it’s here. The hostile reaction that you Beckites sent my way for merely raising a question regarding whether or not the killer was influenced by Beck’s fear mongering, end of days, conspiracy-laced rhetoric is a perfect example of how wound up and locked and loaded much of Beck’s audience is. Maybe it’s time now finally for Glenneth to dial it back on his search for a commie behind every potted plant in the White House and his tales of social collapse, mayhem and the imminent arrival of God here in the US. Better later than never.
untameable-kate
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 10:54amBIN here is a sample of your “fairness:
Did the other story on this tragedy get deleted from The Blaze? If so, I bet it was because of all the nasty comments the Beckites posted about this poor woman because she is a Democrat. What a sorry lot some of you are.
You make nasty little comments on this site all of the time and wonder why nobody is nice to you. Take a wild guess.
Report Post »U-R-Busted
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 10:57amHey beckisnuts, I suggest you should probably be monitored by law enforcement as it is obvious you have NO grasp on reality. Can you site a single example of Beck promoting hate??? I think not, only in your little feeble disturbed mind! Get out of your moms basement and go out and learn a little about the REAL world.
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Report Post »forestnomad
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 11:05amSo, Beckbots, has your revered Tree of Liberty been watered sufficiently? Or does it still need more blood?
By the way, untameable-kate, do you have proof he voted Democrat? Link, please.
BeckIsNuts
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 11:14amuntameabelK, being liked by the caliber of people here on The Blaze is not one of my concerns. Thanks all the same. BTW, you Becklers were out of line when this story broke, as usual.
Report Post »BeckIsNuts
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 11:17amGood grief. The old “mom’s basement” cliche was overused 10 years ago. Get a new writer kid.
Report Post »exdem
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 11:21am@ beckisnuts Your fair criticism????? BWAAHAHAHAHA and your contacts in the political arena?? Whos that? No No let me guess- Olbermann, Special Ed Schultz, Bill Press, Al Sharpton, Soros, Ayers, Fox-Piven,Van Jones, Joan Walsh, Joy Behar, Katrina Vanderhoooooven, Bill Mahr, Michael Moore, radical members of Congress and Senate, Prez Obama, Anita Dunn, Joel Rogers,Andy Stern, Bertha Lewis,Adam Greene, Moveon.org, DailyKos,Pros lover Elliot Spitzer,leg tingler Chris Matthews,Richard Trumpka,Old Black Panthers, New Black Panthers……Sorry I cant go on – the radicals on your side that have incited violence are too many to list…
Report Post »you are truly in denial and very disturbed.
justawhoaman
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 11:35amI think it is interesting that “fear mongering” means warning people that our country is in debt up to our great-grandchildrens’ ears to the Chinese, that we have sacrificed our security to mindless gropings at airports instead of stopping terrorists at our borders, and that we face an even greater great depression that this country could possibly imagine. He has simply asked his listeners to be prepared so that they don’t starve to death, that they have some kind of exchange for goods or services when the dollar is finally reduced to zero. That is fear mongering? I think that is reality warning. More importantly, he has asked that people make their peace with God and, whatever comes your way, go in peace. He has never advocated violence. Never.
So, while BeckisNuts is trying to defend himself, he hasn’t been listening to Beck at all.
I think the most interesting facts are why is it that this 22 year old lived with his parents but they never noticed his erratic behavior, did not know about the skull and candles in the backyard under a camo cover??? Did not know about what he was doing on the internet? Did not question him about why the college asked him to leave? Not one media person has asked this question… instead they point to Sarah, Glenn, or Rush?
The fact that any of these conservatives have to defend themselves is ludicrous. The leftards have all gone crazy. Ironically, Gabby Giffords would have had an R instead of a D behind her name if she represented a Republican constituency. She didn’t, so she ran as a DemoCrap.
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 11:49amBIN, we were out of line when the story broke??? We were hoping she was OK and offered prayers, if that type of thing is “out of line” for you then you are just out of touch with any type of Christian ways. I am sorry for you.
Report Post »butchcoolidge
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 11:55amAny of you people that have kids, you see this in your backyard? If you do, do you just explain it away as a “phase” the kid is going through? If you do, then you are as sick as your kid… I’m starting to see that the parents share some responsibility for this tragedy.
Report Post »jmc610
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 12:21pmBECKISNUTS,
This shooter was a psychotic individual. His political views make no sense. He didn’t need to listen to ANYONE to stir him up. He is a classic example of schizophrenia. Megyn Kelly had an interview with Dr. Alan Lipman yesterday. He is a clinical psychologist and the Director of the Center for the Study of Violence. He explains a lot. His thoughts were brewing for a very long time and there are facts to prove that. It was only a matter of time before he acted on them.
You can watch it here… It is at 1:30 into the clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TYFeDkxBLs
I think people need to stop blaming talk radio & tv, realize this guy was mentally ill and pray for the victims.
Report Post »dontbotherme
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 4:44pmThis guy is a real freak!
Report Post »Al Otto
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 5:08pm@BeckIsNuts
You love free speech and that is good
However you Hate Glenns view or as you say rants of Glenns God.
How can it be you are for free speech? If Glenn wishes to put God in a conversation that makes him Wrong?
You are tolerant of Libs Views on Gay Marriage, Abortions, etc etc.
But when it comes to using the word god or Talk of God is this where it all ends?
Stop with your unfair rants
Report Post »Brooke Lorren
Posted on January 10, 2011 at 9:05pm@Forestnomad the Weather Underground said back in the 70s that they expected that 25 million would die in their reeducation camp if they don’t get with the program.
If it comes down to it, I plan to be one of the people killed in those reeducation camps before I submit to communist tyrrany. So no, the tree of liberty has not been watered with the blood of patriots yet. As long as the left is still trying to take away my liberty and I am still alive, there is still one more person that the left needs to kill.
I would rather be killed than live in a communist society. I will not kill though.
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