NY Russian Immigrants Flock to GOP, Say Today‘s Democratic Party Too ’Socialistic’
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Many immigrants from the old Soviet Union made a home for themselves in the so-called “red borough” of Staten Island, N.Y. But despite New York’s traditionally Democrat-blue past, many are reportedly flocking to the Republican Party today, claiming that the national Decmorats’ “socialistic” policies remind them too much of Mother Russia’s top-down oligarchy they fled from in the past.
Staten Island Real-Time News reports:
Businessman Arkadiy Fridman said that the newly formed Citizens Magazine Business Club, a confederation of more than 50 Russian-owned businesses here and in Brooklyn, has aligned itself with the Molinari Republican Club (MRC) in an effort to increase the Russian community’s political and economic clout. …
“We decided we had to support this club,” said Fridman, a former Soviet Army officer who came to the United States in 1992. “They are very close to our political and business vision.”
In the wake of the national GOP’s big wins this year, when the party took back control of the House, Republicans everywhere are more confident that their bedrock message of smaller government and lower taxes will resonate with American voters.
Fridman said that the Democrats “are going in an absolutely different direction,“ focusing on ”income redistribution” and rich-versus-poor “class war.”
“It’s too socialistic,” said Fridman, head of the non-profit Staten Island Community Center and president of Citizens Magazine, a public affairs publication. “It’s very painful for us to see.”
The Citizens Club, formed earlier this month, looks to support and grow local businesses here; introduce Russian firms to the borough’s existing business and political communities, and promote Russian community representatives to serve in elected office.
Reflecting the American Dream ideal that has drawn immigrants to the United States since the county’s founding, the SI Real-Time News says that many Russians are “grateful” for America’s freedoms and want to show it.
Yevgeniy Lvovskiy, of the ZHL Group development firm, said that many Russians here also are looking to break ethnic stereotypes that paint Russia as being all about “Siberia, beer and vodka.”
“We are looking for an opportunity to prove ourselves,” said Lvovskiy, who came to the United States in 1999. “If you work hard, and do the right thing, you get rewarded. We want to show people we are normal.”
It’s that self-starting stance, he said, that makes Russians here more in line with GOP orthodoxy.
So what do local Democrats have to say about this Big Brother-esque critique of their party? Democratic state Sen. Diana Savino said that while she understands Russians’ natural aversion to big government, she thinks such criticism of her party is off-base, calling any comparison between the Democratic Party and Soviet-era Russia “absurd.”
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Comments (109)
AzDebi
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 1:07amI really wish people would quit using the term “Socialism”…there are MANY forms of socialism…the correct term for what is happening in America is Communism…I’m so tired of the way we approach problems in this country…PC has permeated every part of our society…I even catch myself doing it…I hope 2011 brings the HONESTY we so desperately need to win!
Report Post »Hefsmaster
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:42amTruth be told. You can’t put a name on it yet. There are facets of every type of statist control here. But the similarities are striking enough to conclude that narcissism had a role in naming a few of them. Besides the point anyways. Once you start the progression of govt. it never stops. Therefore energy would be better spent trying to teach the philosophies of control versus debating what to call them. Crap, turd, poop, feces. Doesn’t make a difference.
Report Post »dcwu
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 3:37amTry “Reds”.
It‘s the color of the rioters’ flags in Greece.
You could say “Red Guard”, or “Commie”, but those are too long.
No definition needed.
Say “Reds” and up come all the memories: “revolution”, “secret police”, KGB, “arrested”, “dissapeared”, “show trial”, “shot”, “gulag”, “ICBM”, “cold war”, “Molotov coctail”, Stalin, Kruschev, Mao, Kim Il Sung, Chavez, Castro, and “global thermonuclear war”, “Alger Hiss”, “Rosenbergs”, “NORAD”, “SAC”, “mutually assured destruction” and on and on.
I like the movie “War Games” when the computer starts gaming first strikes strategies. My palms sweat.
It’s Communism and they are Reds.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 11:50amI’m tired of the “socialist” label as well. Obama and his gang ARE effing commies and of course Reds.
Report Post »fordfan
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 1:03amYou have to know it‘s bad when even some of the Dems are turning away from it and the Russians are telling us it’s bad!
Report Post »Diane TX
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 12:55amRe: Democratic state Sen. Diana Savino said that while she understands Russians’ natural aversion to big government, she thinks such criticism of her party is off-base, calling any comparison between the Democratic Party and Soviet-era Russia “absurd.”
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Not so absurd Senator Savino. The Democrat Party of today, is not the same Party from the JFK era. Socialism defines the Democrat Party in the USA today, even though the Majority of Citizens have told them that don’t want their “stinking” Socialism.
We told them that we didn’t want Obama Care, yet they made it a Law without our consent. Did the Democrats forget that they govern by the consent of People?
Report Post »jdawg
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 12:52amNothing unusual about that, considering the Communist party USA is openly working with the Democrats and they both have the same goal – the destruction of the US and the establishment of a communist dictatorship in the USA.
http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/communist-party-usa-openly-supports-democrats
Report Post »flagbearer
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 12:49amRiding the metro after the Glenn Beck 8/28 Rally, I sat next to a Russian immigrant living in D.C. She said she just couldn’t understand how Americans were supporting the socialistic and communistic views of the Democratic party. She talked how she has tried to explain American history to her children and how they are being indoctrinated in the schools. It was very scary hearing this from someone who also told tales of the Russia she fled. The Americans who hear only the liberals need to listen to these immigrants and their stories. They might begin to understand what we conservatives are yelling and screaming about. FOX would do a great service to seek them out and do a televised special report highlighting them.
Report Post »SlimnRanger
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:58ami was thinking the same Flagbearer,that would make for a great informitive show and of course Fox would be the only ones with the bravery to do so but guratantee if they do then MSNBC will refute it and say the immigrants were paid to say those things,lets hope that the people ridding the fence will hear the truth from the Russian immigrants and see the error of their ways then support the GOP and freedom of America
Report Post »New-American-Saviors
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 12:30amLet that be the barometer for our thinking and actions. They‘ve lived the life that we don’t want !
Report Post »SueDinNY
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 12:29amHave a friend from Hungary – she’s been saying this for a long time. Those who have experienced the deceptive, creeping oppression, the lies, the propaganda of communism knows what’s happening.
Report Post »Thatsitivehadenough
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 12:17amRead “Shadow Party” and “Witness” by Whittaker Chambers :http://www.amazon.com/Witness-Whittaker-Chambers/product-reviews/0895267896/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
Report Post »There are several books real Americans who are really worried should read NOW
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=shadow+party&x=0&y=0
pamela kay
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 12:02amThese are the kind of future citizens of America that we welcome with open arms. Who better would know and understand the evil of socialism? This story will never make it o the main-stream media because it futher proves that socialism does not work for the citizens but only for those that dictate while in power. GOP, I hope and pray that you are paying attention, we need to be able to trust that you will represent those of us who voted you in. We are just begining to fight this battle, we are not going anywhere. I would advise you to remember and not get caught up in power and the benefits on the side or you will never get re-elected again. These people could be a great campaign issue in 2012. Until then keep your promises and don’t get so compfortable in your cushie jobs that you forget who got you there.
Report Post »CaptainSpaulding
Posted on December 26, 2010 at 11:31pmThe people who fought it and fled it know the horror.
Report Post »EZDOZIT
Posted on December 26, 2010 at 11:23pm“The only tool we have to take over America, is, the Democract Party”. From the Communist Party USA,2006.
Report Post »Fight for America
Posted on December 26, 2010 at 11:19pmRe: “Democratic state Sen. Diana Savino said that while she understands Russians’ natural aversion to big government, she thinks such criticism of her party is off-base, calling any comparison between the Democratic Party and Soviet-era Russia “absurd.”
Nonsense starts somewhere and later becomes full blown wrong. People who have “been there” should be able to recognize wrong and its awful potential. She’s either living in fantasy land or content with selling it.
Report Post »BoilitDown
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 4:12amWhat has she got to say about the 70 members of the Socialist Party of America in the Democratic Party? She has opened her mouth and proved herself the fool.
Report Post »Doc_Slammin
Posted on December 26, 2010 at 11:17pmRonald Reagan told us this a long time ago. He warned that social programs such as welfare and medicare would lead to the communism of the United States. I listened… did you?
Report Post »CatB
Posted on December 26, 2010 at 11:31pmREAGAN WAS/IS RIGHT!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs
Report Post »mingfurecon
Posted on December 26, 2010 at 11:14pmInside The KGB, by Oleg Gordievsky is a chilling and in depth account of how the Russians evolved from the early days of the NKVD to what we see happening today. The Shadow Government of the Chinese Secret Service led By Kang Sheng is another frightning look at how millions were murdered to gain control of thought and power in China. Make no mistake, Obama and his drones are
Report Post »extremely dangerous. Their are so many parallels it’s frightening. If one looks closely how the communists throughout the years have positioned themselves, one could only conclude that we are in a desperate struggle for our very lives.
82dAirborne
Posted on December 26, 2010 at 11:05pmThis is indeed the “….last stand on earth……” The Russians seem to understand that phrase better than some of our own Sen. They left their homeland and everything they knew for a good reason. I just hope our great nation won’t let them down. (or us for that matter!!)
Report Post »murphytavern
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 6:44amtook words right out of my mouth it is really when former soviets come out and say this
Report Post »Silversmith
Posted on December 26, 2010 at 10:58pmRidicule. It’s getting old, this making fun of the messengers. And it doesn’t seem to matter how outlandish or unsubstantiated the derision is.
Enough is enough.
Silversmith
Report Post »Eyeball
Posted on December 26, 2010 at 10:55pmIt’s good they have woken up to the socialist direction the government is going. Better late than never.
Report Post »seeker9
Posted on December 26, 2010 at 10:55pmMaybe they could help educate Americans what living the socialistic life is actually like. Most Americans are sold the text book utopian theory of socialism. The fact that there is not enough economic activity to make everyone “prosperous”, and that human greed is not cured, but merely transferred to government elites, should wake up any one.
Report Post »Modawg734Blue
Posted on December 26, 2010 at 11:15pmYes, it would be nice to hear the truth about socialism. It will be sad if our generation is remembered as the generation that allowed freedom to fade.
Report Post »fordfan
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 1:02amThey have, my friend, they have……and a pile of ‘em either ain’t listening, don’t want to hear it, don‘t like what they’re hearing or too caught up in Entertainment Tonight and American Idol to really give a crap.
Report Post »SOCIALISM IS FOR THE PEOPLE, NOT THE ONES IN CHARGE and always fails because the socialists always run out of other people’s money to give away to the have nots
Dustyluv
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 3:54amWe are living a socialistic life and at least half of the country is enjoying it. The Unions and the Welfare State recipients love it so far. It’s the Patriots like me who have to work to fund the damn thing that hate living unsder socialism.
I am almost old enough to retire. I don’t want social security or any govenment assistance. I just want them to protect the borders and butt out. End all of the Nanny State Bullcrap and regulations on businesses. If they would we could show them what real freedom is all about.
Report Post »CrackerSmurf
Posted on December 26, 2010 at 10:48pmOnly absurd to those looking through the specter of the Democratic party.
Report Post »MontanaRob
Posted on December 26, 2010 at 10:43pmIt just proves that those who have had to endure this nonsense, don’t want it.
It is unfortunate that we allowed this inherent idiocy in the young in the name of tolerance and political correctness.
Oh yeah…First!!!!
Report Post »Liberty_Forever
Posted on December 26, 2010 at 10:41pmTalk about the old saying “it takes one to know one”. If Russian immigrants, who remember the horrors of communism, are taking the position that the Democratic party is “too socialistic” then how much more evidence do people need to understand what’s happening in this country? Furthermore, Sen. Diana Savino’s response that this is “absurd”, in my opinion, sounds a lot like the Wizard of Oz yelling “pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!”.
Report Post »ChiroRef
Posted on December 26, 2010 at 10:40pm*Decmorats’*
ahem – editors? . . . spell-check?
Maybe just add ‘(sic)’? Few people today recognize the democrat party, anymore, so maybe it’s time for a change.
Report Post »justice
Posted on December 26, 2010 at 10:39pmFinally Some Brave people have come out and Spoken the truth of what is about to happen, if we do not join together and try to change the awful truth of our America is going to become Socialist if not Communist. Come out of the Coma People, it’s here!
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on December 26, 2010 at 10:52pmYou and I are told we must choose between a left or right, but I suggest there is no such thing as a left or right. There is only an up or down. Up to man’s age-old dream — the maximum of individual freedom consistent with order — or down to the ant heap of totalitarianism. Regardless of their sincerity, their humanitarian motives, those who would sacrifice freedom for security have embarked on this downward path. Plutarch warned, ‘The real destroyer of the liberties of the people is he who spreads among them bounties, donations and benefits.’
Report Post »Modawg734Blue
Posted on December 26, 2010 at 10:38pmshe thinks such criticism of her party is off-base, calling any comparison between the Democratic Party and Soviet-era Russia “absurd.”
Report Post »Yeah, what would a Russian immigrant know abuot Communism anyway?
It appears to me that the Russian immigrants are smarter than the left leaning Americans. They have seen the truth of unmasked socialism, and they do not want this disease braught to thier new home.
red penny
Posted on December 26, 2010 at 10:45pmYou got that right brother—–left leaning dumborats are about as dumb as one can get.
Report Post »Ironmaan
Posted on December 26, 2010 at 11:01pmWhats more likely? Russian immigrants who have lived communism AND have seen the policies of the Democratic party are just “way off base”, or that Democratic state Sen. Diana Savino who has a vested interest in furthering the Dumbocrats policies is lying. http://guerillatics.com
Report Post »joseph Fawcett
Posted on December 26, 2010 at 11:04pmI have to agree! It can plainly be seen now that we are headed towards the socialistic big goverment. They can see it because they lived under it back in Russia. We can see it because of beakons of light like Glenn Beck. How I pray that all of America and see it and the majority will not go along with it, and stand up and defend this republic in the ballot box, and vote NO! However, even if that does happen I don’t think that will even stop them from pushing ahead. they have power now in the whitehouse, in the fed courts, and still many senators and congressmen and women. They believe they know best and we cannot decide for ourselves what is good goverment. They need to decide for us because we are fools and racist, and don’t want to give to the poor, or can even decide what to eat that is right.
http://www.josephfawcettart.com western artist
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on December 26, 2010 at 11:25pmWho knows more about communism in Russia ?
Russian immigrants
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Hollywierdos ??
Cobra Blue
Posted on December 26, 2010 at 11:25pmWE could learn a lot from the immigrants. They have already been down the road where we are headed. I have a very close associate that defected from Romania about 22 years ago. We have talked about the state of affairs in this country. He said he has seen all this before. He said to get prepared and ready to hunker down. He said to have plenty of food and guns to protect it and your family. He said money will be useless. The bare essentials will have value. Believe it or not…my Romanian friend said when it hits the fan he is going back to Romania. Imagine that! A man who once lived under the tyranny of communism is willing to risk going back to where he started 22 years ago because he knows what is coming to the USA. I figure he knows of what he speaks since he has seen it before. Hard to believe but true.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on December 26, 2010 at 11:26pmThey know it when they see it … I hope that they will speak out loud and clear.
Report Post »GrannyATL
Posted on December 26, 2010 at 11:45pmIn the early ‘80’s I had a young immigrant Russian woman who cut my hair. I asked her one day what the most astounding aspect of America had been when she first came here. Her answer was “driving anywhere I want.” To her, the idea that you could get in your car and go any place you choose was absolutely amazing. In Russia you could not leave your local area without a permit. Needless to say, she loved being in America and couldn’t wait to become a citizen.
Report Post »JGP
Posted on December 26, 2010 at 11:51pmUnfortunately most of the repub party power brokers are’nt much different.
Report Post »GrannyATL
Posted on December 26, 2010 at 11:54pmToday, I have a good friend who was flown out of Cuba the night before the Bay of Pigs Invasion by her parents. (All six children arrived in Miami and nuns put them up around the country until their parents arrived 6 months later. My friend was 16 and sent to Idaho.)
When Obama ran for office she became scared, saying he sounded just like Fidel Castro when he was running for office. Smooth, saying what people wanted to hear, but not meaning what he said. She sold her house in 2008 to live near her children and grandchildren. She‘s been scared ever since Obama’s election.
She sees our future. She’s lived it before.
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 2:03amWelcome to the fight. The Constitution is all about LIMITED GOVERNMENT.
Senator Diana Savino is a traitor.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 3:51amNo, Diane, you $%#^# lying traitor. Not Soviet Russia. PUTIN Russia. Neo-communism, a slow-frying, bloodless revolution.
Report Post »TXPilot
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 6:55amKudos to the Russians!! Of course, they are very familiar with the road our government is forcibly dragging us down, and it’s no wonder they would be concerned, given their own experiences.
Report Post »BehindBlueEyes
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 7:10am@Cobra Blue
Report Post »Your friend from Romania has got it right. Be prepared because the progressives are not going to let this opportunity go. America got suckered by Soros and Obama. These next 2 years are when the progressives are going to make their move and they don’t need congress for their tactics. Obama now has czars calling the shots they just abuse the existing system and use it to achieve their agenda. Its all going to be done backdoor from now on. It no longer has anything to do with what the majority of Americans want.
James
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:57amMost people are smarter than left leaning American’s. The MSM will not report this at all because it is the same thing the Tea Party and Sarah Palin have been saying all along.
When we are starting to remind people who were there of Mother Russia, I think we have a serious problem.
http://crazyconservative.wordpress.com/
Report Post »always watching
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 9:26am“Elected officials who support the goals of Socialism do not and can not support the US Constitution. Those are mutually exclusive philosophies of government. Congressional Socialists violate their Oath Of Office, fraudulently continue serving in office, and are prime candidates for prosecution for treason”
Report Post »always watching
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 9:32amcongressional progressive caucus (code for socialists)
Co-Chairs
Raul Grijalva (AZ-07)
Lynn Woolsey (CA-06)
Vice Chairs
Diane Watson (CA-33)
Keith Ellison (MN-05)
Sheila Jackson-Lee (TX-18)
Mazie Hirono (HI-02)
Dennis Kucinich (OH-10)
Donna Edwards (MD-04)
Alan Grayson (FL-08)
Senate Members
Bernie Sanders (VT)
Tom Udall (NM)
Roland Burris (IL)
House Members
Tammy Baldwin (WI-02)
Report Post »Xavier Becerra (CA-31)
Earl Blumenauer (OR-03)
Robert Brady (PA-01)
Corrine Brown (FL-03)
Michael Capuano (MA-08)
André Carson (IN-07)
Donna Christensen (VI-AL)
Yvette Clarke (NY-11)
William (Lacy) Clay (MO-01)
Emanuel Cleaver (MO-05)
Steve Cohen (TN-09)
John Conyers (MI-14)
Elijah Cummings (MD-07)
Danny Davis (IL-07)
Peter DeFazio (OR-04)
Rosa DeLauro (CT-03)
Sam Farr (CA-17)
Chaka Fattah (PA-02)
Bob Filner (CA-51)
Barney Frank (MA-04)
Marcia Fudge (OH-11)
Luis Gutierrez (IL-04)
John Hall (NY-19)
Phil Hare (IL-17)
Alcee Hastings (FL-23)
Maurice Hinchey (NY-22)
Michael Honda (CA-15)
Jesse Jackson Jr (IL-02)
Eddie Bernice Johnson (TX-30)
Hank Johnson (GA-04)
Marcy Kaptur (OH-09)
Carolyn Kilpatrick (MI-13)
Barbara Lee (CA-09)
John Lewis (GA-05)
David Loebsack (IA-02)
Ben Lujan (NM-3)
Carolyn Maloney (NY-14)
Edward Markey (MA-07)
Jim McDermott (WA-07)
James McGovern (MA-03)
George Miller (CA-07)
Gwen Moore (WI-04)
Jim Moran (VA-08)
Jerrold Nadler (NY-08)
Eleanor Holmes Norton (DC-AL)
John Olver (MA-01)
Frank Pallone (NJ-06)
Ed Pastor (AZ-04)
Donald Payne (NJ-10)
Chellie Pingree (ME-01)
Jared Polis (CO-02)
Charles Rangel (NY-15)
Laura Richardson (CA-37)
Lucille Roybal-Allard (CA-34)
Bobby Rush (IL-01)
Linda Sanchez (CA-47)
Jan Schakowsky (IL-09)
José Serrano (NY-16)
Louise Slaughter (NY-28)
Pete Stark (CA-13)
Bennie Thompson (MS-02)
John Tierney (MA-06)
Nydia Velazquez (NY-12)
Maxine Waters (CA-35)
Mel Watt (NC-12)
Henry Waxman (CA-30)
Peter Welch (VT-AL)
mikem1969
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 9:34amWell said, I hope this wake some more sheeple up.
Report Post »snowleopard3200 {cat folk art}
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 10:14amThe Russian imigrants escaped the former Soviet Union at great risk; they know just what it looks and feels like to be in severe oppression and the land of the free – and the Democratic leader in the area says they are wrong?
Lady, when did you fail to understand why everyone calling each other “Comrad” while a gun is held to their head by the HSA-KGB means “Communist takeover!!!”
http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm
Report Post »TruthTalker
Posted on December 26, 2010 at 10:37pmHear! Hear!
Report Post »Kathleen
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 3:02pmThis is what I have been wanting for a while. For those who have lived under the “promise” to tell how it really is. The REALITY vs. the IDEAL. They need to come to schools and warn kids who are being brainwashed.
Report Post »12thArticle
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 5:26pmWho would know better than Russians?
Report Post »nptden
Posted on December 27, 2010 at 8:51pmNot only Russians see the trend in our govt, but also Latino’s from South America. They all know the communists are here… Legal and Illegal Latinos are afraid, they are not getting away from them. They know that ‘agents’ are among them…And of course our communists within our government promoting ‘amnesty’ and avoiding any commitment to stopping them is evident. Wake up. Where do these ‘sanctuary cities’ get away with aiding and abetting law-breakers? Why?…In history they speak of the Roman Empire being invaded, we‘ll it’s happening here and nothing is being done.
Report Post »Nancy C
Posted on December 28, 2010 at 4:12pmSpeaking as a teacher of the public school system, I applaud Kathleen’s idea. Students have a Right to know the real and the ideal. In this case, to educate our young people on how very close this country is approaching a way of life that they know nothing about and won’t like if and when it ever happens is not just a choice but a necessity and a duty.
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