NEW YORK (AP) — New Yorkers on food stamps would not be allowed to spend them on sugar-sweetened drinks under an obesity-fighting proposal being floated by Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Gov. David Paterson.
Bloomberg and Paterson planned to announce Thursday that they are seeking permission from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which administers the nation’s food stamp program, to add sugary drinks to the list of prohibited goods for city residents receiving assistance.
If approved, it would be the first time an item would be banned from the federal program based solely on nutritional value.
The idea has been suggested previously, including in 2008 in Maine, where it drew criticism from advocates for the poor who argued it unfairly singled out low-income people and risked scaring off potential needy recipients.
And in 2004 the USDA rejected Minnesota’s plan to ban junk food, including soda and candy, from food stamp purchases, saying it would violate the Food Stamp Act’s definition of what is food and could create “confusion and embarrassment” at the register.
The food stamp system, which was launched in the 1960s, serves some 40 million Americans a month and does not currently restrict any other foods based on nutrition. Recipients can essentially buy any food for the household, although there are some limits on hot or prepared foods.
Food stamps also cannot be used to buy alcohol, cigarettes or items such as pet food, vitamins or household goods.
The city and state proposal would be temporary, so officials could study its effects over two years. It would apply only to food stamp recipients in New York City — 1.7 million of the city’s more than 8 million residents — and would not affect the amount of assistance they receive.
“This initiative will give New York families more money to spend on foods and drinks that provide real nourishment,” said a statement from Bloomberg, who also has outlawed trans-fats in restaurant food and has forced chain restaurants to post calorie counts on menus.
In fiscal year 2009, New Yorkers received $2.7 billion in food stamp benefits and spent $75 million to $135 million of that on sugary drinks, the city said.
The ban would apply to any beverage that contains more than 10 calories per 8 ounces, except for milk products, milk substitutes like soy milk and rice milk, and fruit juices without added sugar.
A 20-ounce sugar-sweetened drink can contain as many as 16 packets of sugar.
There still are many unhealthful products New Yorkers could purchase with food stamps, including potato chips, ice cream and candy. But officials said the proposal targets sugary drinks because they are the largest contributor to obesity.
“We continue to see a dramatic rise in obesity among children, especially in low-income communities,” state Department of Health Commissioner Richard Daines said. “This initiative targets a major public health threat — the high consumption of sugary beverages — which have little to no nutritional value.”
More than half of adult New York City residents are overweight or obese, along with nearly 40 percent of public school students in kindergarten through eighth grade.
City officials said lower-income residents are most likely to drink one or more sugar-sweetened drink a day; type 2 diabetes is also twice as common among poor New Yorkers compared to the wealthiest.
Officials planned to submit the proposal Thursday to the USDA. Comment was not immediately available from the agency.
The USDA recently launched a pilot program to encourage food stamp recipients to make more healthful choices in their food shopping. Under the program, involving 7,500 randomly selected households in Massachusetts, participants get 30 cents added to their benefit balances for every dollar they spend on fruits and vegetables — which reduces the cost of fresh produce by almost one-third.
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independentvoteril
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:45amThere is a NUDGE for sure here.. but it comes from the lie that it’s for OBESITY they want this ban.. truth is there are MORE Obese people that drink DIET drinks than those with CORN SYRUP.. they no longer use REAL SUGAR which in itself is a problem.. Most states have a tax on soda or corn syrup drinks they are not collecting from people on food stamps.. If they were concerned about weight they would also go after the chips, candy, cookies etc… here in IL we pay an extra tax on SODA and CANDY that has no flour in it..? you get punished if you pay cash.. Since they can still by Kool-Aid and sugar which is most likely healthier than those corn syrup drinks and tastes better they plain out lied if it was for the calorie factor..
Report Post »Maybe the GEESE Know More than the BEES Know
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:50amamen….first they restrict those they can control with the food stamp ‘rule’….then it will be US.
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Zaphod
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 1:39pmYeah, the whole idea stinks. Sure, I guess some troglodyte nanny-stater in me wants to tell them what is appropriate to buy or not … but, really, if I have a problem with this … let’s get rid of the whole concept of “food stamps” then … I don’t have a problem with that … but if we have a food stamp program, let‘s stay out of our neighbor’s pantry.
Report Post »sodun
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:45amSorry if this posts twice but the first one seemed to vanish…
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While working at a convenience store as a clerk NOTHING made me angrier than selling someone a case of beer for cash, then they’d whip out their food stamps and buy $20 worth of junk food on MY DIME!? It took everything I had not jump over that counter and…and…(multiple expletives deleted)!
EqualJustice
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:44amIf they smoke or drink alcohol or soda, NO WELFARE. Use the money to feed your darn kids. Geez, sacrifice a little, will you? ****** me off when they pay for beer and cigs with cash then pull out the food stamps for the other JUNK they buy. Plus, if they want to control someone’s diet to keep Health care costs down, start with these fatties!
Report Post »stone2016
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:43amSounds like when my mom wouldn’t let me spend my allowance on candy.
Report Post »historypaper
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:34amI think its only fair that we take full advantage of people without food or income and impose the full communist doctrine on them first. These stupid poor people are eating too much salt and consuming too much sugar, no wonder their poor. Thank the heavens for the Obama Pelosie and Reid communist solution, state control is the way. We can force people to work or not. No sugar you fool.
New York, the first or second Communist State or maybe its California?
Report Post »KathyShaidle
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:28amSpeaking of food, did you know that Campbell’s Soup in Canada is going halal — and getting advice on it from a group connected with the Muslim Brotherhood??
There‘s already a Facebook page set up to boycott Campbell’s Soup and everything.
http://www.fivefeetoffury.com/:entry:fivefeet-2010-10-07-0006/
Report Post »carrera
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 9:05amKathy-It‘s not just Cambell’s….www.creepingsharia.wordpress.com
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 9:31amWho can afford cambells??? I buy store brand…
Report Post »nceagle
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:27amYeah ya can’t buy anything bad for you!! Unless you go to a little local store that accepts the stamps for whatever you buy (ringing it up instead as fatback, fried chicken, a large can of lard and green vegetables of course), fraud on the American people or not. The fraud committed in this program is like any other give-away. Many of these “recipients”have been on the program most of their life. Many “sell or trade” their cards for cash, drugs, cigarettes whatever they want. Prosecutions? HA! Fraud measures in place cost the Taxpayers even more mega dollars. All these FREE programs cost us a veritable fortune; it is time to return to private soup kitchens, food pantries that hand out food. Yeah, the argument for credit card style stamps is “The Food stamps give people dignity to choose what they want” except if they want something someone decides they don’t want them to have! How many went to jail for fraud as a result of misuse of the Katrina cards? How many food stamp frauds go to jail {where we get to spend another $50000 a year to support them? Unless they are Muslim –then we give them Sharia approved meals at what cost to the taxpayer…..}
Report Post »Fighting4America
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:25amGang, when you are on food stamps you should only buy the essential items you need to get by. Why would you want to get off food stamps if things are just peachy. I don’t need my tax dollars going to the non essential stuff. This is where the gov’t may just have it right. They are supposed to care how our dollars are spent.
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Eric Window
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:22amGovernment Assistance should not be used to buy junk food. I don’t want my tax money going to help poor people get fat. I agree that these programs need to exist for some, but they should be restricted to staple foods, not junk foods. I don’t mind helping out feeding the hungry, but I was never about fatting them up or making them too comfortable (removes incentive to work) though. I have seen many a food stamp user in the past buy meat and seafood I couldn’t reasonably afford on a regular basis on my upper middle class income. This program needs major overhaul !
Report Post »Hondaman
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:27amAmen Eric
Report Post »mizflame98
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 9:07amI’ve seen them wearing expensive jewelry and their kids with gold chains on. They’re sporting designer sneakers and clothes and after paying for their food with food stamps, drive off in a Lexus or BMW. Mind you, not all are like that but there are far too many who are that gives the true needy a bad name.
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 9:28amThe government intentionally put of those cards so that someone in line can’t tell if one is using a DEBIT card from their bank account OR from the government.. this was to make them less noticeable.. so people didn’t complain about what the food stamp people were buying..Also I have to say those that get food stamps and work but don’t make enough money have less of a stigma put on them as being lazy.. I have a neighbor how wound up retiring early when he got laid off gets a whole $16 dollars a month.. he would have got more but he pays his BILLS with his check FIRST..
Report Post »Donald
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:21amBut its okay to take welfare checks and go to Las Vegas….hmmm
Report Post »1stzookid
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:19amNew York stand u[ and fight for your God given right to eat what you want………..
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 9:49amGet a danm job and you can.
Report Post »Donald
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:19amIs that a nudge-push or shove.
Report Post »Hondaman
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:12amI know there are some real needs, but the food stamp program in total needs to be redone. I work in a convenience store and see people all the time with EBT (cash option) get cash out of the ATM then buy beer and cigarettes with the cash. That really irks me since I am paying for that. I know there could be large amounts of money saved if those that don’t need it could not get it. Come on Mr Haussain Obama, do something about it.
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:55amI have to agree.. it’s NOT just the food stamps that needs to be redone.. it’s the WHOLE system..the cash on those cards is for RENT, GAS, LIGHTS.. (welfare people get FREE cell phones thanks to Obama so he can text them I guess).. Food Stamps are for meals which in most cases the taxpayers provide 2 meals a day in school.. even in the summer they have places for kids to go to get free breakfast and lunch..
Report Post »jbl8199
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:11amThis kind of crap needs to be stopped and soon. November can’t come soon enough.
Report Post »Fighting4America
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:10amWhen I was young I was a cashier in a grocery store and I can tell you first hand the junk these people often buy on food stamps. I think since the Tax Payers are paying for it, it should be limited to more nutritious items. The “Wick Program” limits families to dairy, meat, and vegie like items. If someone falls on tough times why should the tax payers pay for chips, coke, candy and so one. When my parents struggles on Navy pay only, they did not take food stamps. Instead my mom washed diapers by hand and only bought staple items. If we wanted a treat, once in a while popcorn popped on the stove was good for us!! This is where I think the gov’t should be involved since it is our money they are spending. If they were more concerned about our dollars and how they were being used, we would not have the problems that we have. Like in LA and the use of our tax dollars for gambling.
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 9:21amHave you seen those WIC items?? Brand names.. things the working folk can’t afford for their kids.. they should be limited to generic or store brand items..Many people use their food stamps at high priced stores like 7-11′s.. instead of taking a trip to the local grocery store..
Report Post »Brooke Lorren
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 7:45pmThose that are buying stuff from 7-11 are stupid because they get the same amount of money whether they buy food at the grocery store or 7-11. You can get a lot more food from the grocery store than you can from 7-11.
Report Post »Chett
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:09amSo they buy diet drinks ..waste money more drinking stuff with no calories at all and get big doses of evil chemicals like aspartame. Makes no sense.
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 9:17amI’m with you rather they buy drinks with REAL SUGAR..LOL.. don’t think corn syrup is any better than chemicals.. just makes the soda heavier and flat..
Report Post »warner
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:08amGOOD! Although I am totally against the government controlling what I can and cannot buy, I have no problem with controlling what my tax money can purchase in the way of food stamps. I have been in line to many times to see someone with streaks,soda, and other higher priced snacks pulling out the food stamp card.My wife and I both work and were trying to cut corners as much as possible…with ground beef, no soda, etc. UGH! Working people have to realize that these people are using OUR MONEY to buy this crap! It‘s not the government’s money it’s yours and mine! WAKE UP AMERICA!
Report Post »bryan4980
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:08amI think this is fine the government is giving people money to buy food so they should be able to dictate what it is spent on. All the more reason to not be on a government program, make people uncomfortable in their poverty.
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:07amI think they should start with banning their illegal drugs first…Test them!
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 9:14amNow THAT’S a good idea.. they were all for testing those getting unemployment and those were people who DID have jobs and most jobs do drug test but they NEVER suggested they do that for those on WELFARE.. BTW remember some people that get JUST food stamps DO work, they are at the jobs the right suggests they take min wage and don’t make enough.. I do notice they are also eager to cut the SENIORS money on SS another group that has worked their entire life and the government eagerly took their money but spent it and again NO ONE is suggesting they cut WELFARE.. I don‘t get it IF you’ve worked and are having a hard time or eldery they want to cut your money but if you never had a job they GIVE you everything.. no strings attached..
Report Post »DimmuBorgir
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 10:49amabout 2 years back i found this US debt simulator. you could change the budget on different items. I cut out welfare and guess what? US was out of debt in 4 years.
Report Post »captquest
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:05amnudge
Report Post »Ms Lucy
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 9:58amyup
Report Post »SickTwistedFreak
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:05amI love it. Next ban them from buying steaks. In fact they should have a small list of acceptable items to buy. Then hopefully that would motivate them to buy their own darn food.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:17amSome steak wouldn’t bother me, what ****** me off, is when you see them buying big 2 inch custom cut filets and pound after pound of crab legs name brand everything, and paying for it with a SNAP card, while I am buying day old round steak from reduced bin, and generic everything.
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 9:08amsWampy.. Your right there.. and we all know they aren’t buying the crab legs to process for more than one meal.. I buy (although I am not on food stamps) huge pieces of round steak and bring it home and grind it into hamburger which we call hamburger steaks which can be cooked rare unlike store bought burger meat you have to burn to kill the germs..LOL.. thing is most of the people on food stamps have been on for generations and have NO IDEA of how to cook.. and the newbie’s who were working are use to convenience foods..
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 9:45amI am not too disgusted if it is a working family that needs temporary help. Food boxes would be better though so they don’t get too used to steak on my dime.
Report Post »Rob
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:03amThe first thing to go if I were in charge would be ALL welfare programs…no more “free” lunches on our dime!
Report Post »wingedwolf
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:09amOn the surface, that’s harsh, but I heard Dr. Phil once say, “Hunger is a great motivator!” So maybe you have something there. LOL No, I am not a follower of Phil McGraw, I fall upon his show once in awhile during surfing to see if there‘s anything on worth watching when Glenn isn’t on.
Report Post »jorge_washington
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 2:15pm“The first thing to go if I were in charge would be ALL welfare programs…no more “free” lunches on our dime!”
You must be very, very if not brutally wealthy and not have children. For only a man as I have just described would never have to worry about himself ever falling on hard times to the point of needing help for himself and his family.
May you never be in charge.
Questioning with Boldness
Report Post »wingedwolf
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:03amThey’re already not supposed to be allowed to spend them on imported things, but they can buy coffee. Not that I would deny ANYONE a cup of coffee, LOL, I’m only saying that the rules always seem to have exceptions when they are followed at all. We have people getting their welfare money out of ATMs in vegas and spending that money in casinos and they are worried about sugary drinks? There is far more sugar in juices than in diet soda, which would also be banned. The people trying to make the rules wouldn’t be able to find their butts with a map!
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:56amLOL not good to take away mom’s coffee..
Report Post »Brooke Lorren
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 7:40pmDiet soda is worse for you than full-calorie soda. The artificial sweeteners make your body think that you are going to be getting energy, and therefore releases hormones that it would release if you were actually consuming something sugary. This makes a person fatter than if they would have just drunk the soda in the first place.
Report Post »Maybe the GEESE Know More than the BEES Know
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:03amno biggie! just another little ‘nudge’ by those that ‘know better’.
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sodun
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:37amI absolutely agree. Working at a neighborhood convenience store I can’t count the times people came in and bought a case of beer with cash and 20 bucks worth of munchies on food stamps!
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I have NO PROBLEM being charitable to those in need. But this kind of help should be TEMPORARY. INMHO chips, soda, candy, basically junk food should be banned from being purchased with food stamps – that kind of stuff is TREAT FOOD!
Libertarian Infidel
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:47amGood. They shouldn’t be allowed to purchase goods such as beer or cigarettes either. In fact, we should ban food stamps.
Report Post »mizflame98
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:55amActually, I see nothing wrong with that. If you’re living off of taxpayer money, you shouldn’t be using said funds to buy junk food.
Report Post »gadgeteer
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 9:07amMaybe Old Ben hit on the right idea here: “For my own part, I am not so well satisfied of the goodness of this thing. I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.”
see: http://www.founding.com/founders_library/pageID.2146/default.asp
Report Post »wifezilla
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 10:18amI am not an advocate of nanny gvmnt, but if you are on food stamps you are living on other people’s money. I don’t think this measure goes far enough. You should only be able to buy dairy, eggs, hamburger,fresh or frozen fruits and veggies, dry beans and rice, or flour and basic baking ingredients. That’s it. Nothing containing high fructose corn syrup, tons of sugar, or anything highly processed. It adds insult to injury when tax dollars pay for people to eat garbage that makes them sick and then we have to pay for their healthcare costs incurred by their lousy diet.
Report Post »vickiw
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 10:41amthe foodstamps are meant to help those, especially children, be able to have nutritious food they otherwise could not buy. Other junk food, like garbage cereals and candy, are already banned so why not other junk food such as soda and chips? This just might be one small way to help lower the medicaid debt. IF they want snacks, what’s wrong with fruit juice and carrot sticks?
Report Post »chrisa0917
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 11:38amI agree with you Wifezilla…food stamps are meant to ensure that people have nutritious food to eat and the food is being provided by us, the taxpayers. It should be limited to foods that are necessary to survive, not junk food and soda. If they can limit certain purchases to the least expensive brand (as is done with things like milk and eggs in my state), then they certainly can limit the food categories that can be purchased. This is not the same as taking sugary or fatty foods off the menus, because that it trying to control what people who use their own money put in their mouths. Food stamps should be for essentials only. Period.
Report Post »biggreenboo
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 7:58amNo… My mountain dew!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Areyoukiddingme
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 8:58amI was in the local grocery store the other day waiting to check out. I thought Wow the person in front of me really likes soda and chips; and he likes the good stuff not the cheap generic kind. His entire cart was full of mountain dew and Doritos – No lie.
He then asked for a carton of cigarettes. This is when i noticed how he was going to pay for the soda and chips. the clerk had to separate the order so he could run the soda and chips on his food stamps debit card and he paid cash for the smokes.
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 9:37amI am a working single mom and I remember one time when I went to the store and only had enough money for a gallon of milk and a bag of apples.The family in front of me had steak and chips and every kind of food you can imagine. Food stamps of course. I think they should get rid of the food stamp program, if people need food they should get a govt food box with crappy cheese and some basic staples. Maybe they would be incouraged to go get a job.By the way it was a healthy twenty-something man a shlumpy looking woman and three filthy children.
Report Post »aquariaqueen
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 9:49amI like the approved nutritional boxed food idea. Dairy, fruits/veg, grains…… And while we are on that, I always thought it was crazy that a person could buy lobster but not a bar of soap!
Report Post »Waiting4George
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 9:58amDear Kate,
Prior to the Food Stamp program there was the Commodities program. Those qualifying received real food in government packaging–flour, rice, peanut butter etc. at the local level after participating in nutrition classes showing how to use the products. People sold the commodities and college students–technically unemployed– were “qualifying” under the guidelines. Guidelines were tightened and stamps were introduce to cut the fraud.Stamps were in denominations. People could make qualified purchases with stamps and receive change that they would use to purchase smokes etc. Stamps were also sold. Now the debit card system is in place for allegedly the same reason–fraud as well as to “lessen embarrassment”. I’m sure cards are being sold. And, as well, supplementing other purchases.
Report Post »2
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 10:26amHow about Chips, Twikkies, Candy and anything that is not in the 5 food groups.
Report Post »Ironmaan
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 11:32amAbsolutely ban it. In fact, ban the food stamps completely. Have you seen how fat the typical “poor” person is? Your typical so called poor person has a television at home, full fridge, cell phone and a play station. I don’t see to many “poor” people in this country. People in this country have lost all perspective. If you want to see poor people go to Bolivia.
Report Post »Promotefreedom
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 12:15pmLogically, there is no reason why pop is classified as food. It is not really food.
Food stamps should not exist. The program is widely abused.
People using food stamps for pop means they don’t need that portion of food stamp allotment at all. Starving people would not buy pop with food stamps.
But, I dare say, if there were no way to get free food, a large group of people would be rioting and looting. The food stamp program is the cheapest and easiest way for the government to pacify people.
Here’s something to think about: Since we often see people using food stamps & then paying cash for cigarettes; who do you think is actually paying for those cigarette purchases? The taxpayer is.
The whole wildly expanding welfare system in this country is the biggest joke on earth.
Fabian socialists would love to use the growing, out of control welfare system as a legitimate excuse to eliminate those of us who are consuming more than producing. (For the benefit of the many, of course)
Report Post »Scootin_Fool
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 12:45pmIf you really think about it, if the government is going to give people money for food, it shouldn’t be junk food. I’ve read statistics that show that obesity is rampant amongst the poorest Americans. The main reason for this is their reliance on junk food. If the government is going to force me to pay taxes so someone else can eat, I don‘t want them wasting it on something that isn’t healthy. If they’re going to take my money, I want it used responsibly, not wasted.
Now, if the government tries to tell me what I should eat with money I earned for myself, that’s an entirely different kettle of fish. My money, earned by me, is mine to spend (or waste) on whatever I dang well please.
Report Post »Eyeswideopen2
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 1:33pmIt still comes back to the fact, that the far left is trying to abolish more personal rights of the American people. Let me also add that I haven’t had a soda for over 15 years now, it‘s just empty calories and I don’t believe it is good for you over the long term. With that being said, as an American we should beable to choose if we want to drink a soda or not! Whats next? can’t have fries with your burger? Oh wait the far left is trying to do that now! Thanks Michelle O
Report Post »NFYRx
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 3:06pmAs long as they don’t take casinos and strip clubs away from ebt users.
BTW Congrats EYESWIDEOPEN. What do you want an addaboy, or a pat on the head?
Report Post »biggreenboo
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 3:16pmWow… you all linked to my post… you like me… you really really like me!!!!
OK… now to be serious… You can’t buy soap with food stamps? That actually sucks!!!!
I guess Mamas showerin wit da filet mignon tonight, again.
Report Post »nordspan
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 3:35pmIf you see a mom with kids in line buying the necessities, nobody wonders if they’re abusing the system. If Ms. steak and lobster, or Mr. Mt. Dew and Dorritos feels uncomfortable so be it…… I guess I’m not uncomfortable about saying this, but sometimes the only reason somebody STOPs doing something is because the peer pressure and they feel uncomfortable.
If food STAMPS still exist we wouldn’t all complain about the observed abuse, or read about the article of finding that the LA welfare people are around casinos. Oh, how awful it must be in NYC. Almost 2/8′s of their people are on welfare. Controlled rent, welfare, gees, why would you ever want to change?
Report Post »SashaH40
Posted on October 7, 2010 at 4:47pmWhat about alcohol?
Report Post »Robert W
Posted on October 8, 2010 at 3:52pmMove down south. Cheap taxes, drink all the Dr. Pepper you want and I can shoot my .44 all day long in the back yard without swat showing up!
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