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NY Times Columnist Apologizes for Mocking Mitt Romney‘s Faith in ’Magic Underwear’ Tweet

New York Times columnist Charles Blow backpedaled over a recent Tweet which was a not-so-veiled dig at Mitt Romney’s faith:

“Let me just tell you this Mitt ‘Muddle Mouth’: I’m a single parent and my kids are *amazing*! Stick that in your magic underwear.”

New York Times Charles M. Blow Apologizes for Mitt Romney Magic Underwear Tweet

Blow was referring to a Mormon tradition of wearing a temple garment under the clothing.

This morning, Blow tweeted, “Btw, the comment I made about Mormonism during Wed.’s debate was inappropriate, and I regret it. I’m willing to admit that with no caveats.”

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  • drewder
    Posted on February 25, 2012 at 7:25am

    I often hear people proclaim that mormon‘s arn’t Christian and it makes me wonder if we should as the other question. Is mainstream Christianity Christian?

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    • xmilitary
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 7:35am

      I agree. Just because The Holy Bible doesn‘t talk about magic underwear and Planet Kolob doesn’t mean that they aren’t true. /s

       
    • Hayeksgirl
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 7:58am

      To be a Christian is to believe that Christ is the Saviour, three men on the cross that day, 2 went to heaven, one did not. So, my question is, if ALL Mormons are Christian, are ALL Christians, Mormon? Are all Christians, Catholic? Can I practice either of those branches of faith without taking classes?

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    • neverending
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 9:24am

      The latter would be the better question. – So many claim christianity and then live a life is not even a resemblance of true Christianity.

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    • SonOfThunder
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 9:54am

      Mormons are not Christians. They are very secretive. You can’t even go into a Mormon unless you are a Mormon. Secretive rituals, doctrines, covenants, special garments to seal your marriage and handshakes are extremely odd and are made up by the false prophet Joseph Smith. They say Lucifer is Jesus’s brother. That is blasphemy. Mormons say God was man first then became God. Jesus is not God according to mormons. Mormons doctrines state only Mormons will go to heaven (three different heaven levels by the way, one level of heaven is in Missouri, That is laughable!). They will never tell you that but it is specifically stated in their doctrine and covenants and book of mormon. Both books are of Satan.
      All in all it is a spiritual cult and it is certainly not Christianity.
      Repent and put your trust in the real Jesus. Not some idol Joseph Smith made up.

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    • Nasado
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 10:38am

      @SonOfThunder
      Hmm, thays right, because God did not command that only the children of Israel could go into the temple either…. oh wait, he did. I guess God is not Christian either. We believe we are all children of God, even Satan and Christ, so would that not make us all brothers and sisters? And BTW, stop quoting lies that you seem to have read on the internet. No where does it say that only mormons will get into heaven and we do not believe there is one in Missouri. Where it the world did you find that? What goes on in the temple is not secret but sacred and anyone can go in. You do have to meet certain requirements though, like living a pure life, believeing in God and that Jesus is the Savior and following the tenents of the LDS faith. But if you want to go in, live these things and you are free to go. Obviously you have not read the Book of Mormon or Doctrine and Covenants either. Please in the future don’t be so ignorant when you speak of others beliefs.

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    • Nehemiah6.3
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 10:47am

      @sonofthunder
      I feel to reply to your ignorance about the LDS faith. Mormons are not secretive. They choose to leave some things as “sacred”. Usually, once people actually know the truth they are very accepting of church beliefs. Only those who hear things from ignorant people distort the truth talk like you do. LDS members do believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
      We believe Joseph Smith to be a Prophet, like the other many prophets in the Bible. We do not worship him either. The Book of Mormon is “Another testament of Jesus Christ”. Meaning it is a book about Him. This book was not written by Joseph, but translated from an ancient record written by the ancient people of America.
      Go to Mormon.org if you really want to know what we believe. You can also visit with 2 of our missionaries. They are the clean cut young men or young women with the black name tags.
      Before you make judements, you should know of what you speak.

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    • smokeysmoke
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 10:52am

      but obama who is a black liberation thologist is a christian with out any heistation… but mormans we need to be worried about… and the morman religion is 100 years older than black liberation theology

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    • SnowKalBebes
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 11:56am

      Watch this cartoon the mormon church banned. It’s hilarious and scary at the same time. We need to ask Mitt and Glenn if they actually believe any of this garbage.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a3eJC3qAFU

       
    • ModerationIsBest
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 12:42pm

      Kinda funny to hear Christians call Mormon beliefs “insane.”

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    • GWest
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 2:03pm

      It’s always interesting to note that when Evangelicals discuss Mormon’s faith they go to sources that are overtly critical and biased to Mormon theology, always portraying Mormons in the worst possible light. Because Evangelicals view Mormons as ridiculous and heretic, they would rather rely on an ex-Mormon’s viewpoint (who feels the same way as they do), rather than rely on a practicing Mormon’s viewpoint or standard Mormon sites like LDS.org or Mormon.org, or apologist websites like FAIRLDS.org. An Evangelical will tell you that since a guy used to be a Mormon that he’s qualified to speak on the Mormon faith and whatever he says is true because the Evangelical has checked with multiple other sources (sources other than official Mormon sources or from practicing Mormons) and everything checks out. They’ll tell you that they’ve A-to-B‘d Christianity and Mormonism and basic Mormon doctrine doesn’t match basic Christian doctrine. Its awesome when you A-to-B something and your answer is exactly what you thought it would be, that’s real research. But before any of you go A-to-B-ing, an Evangelical will let you know that no one’s A-B matches up to a real smart Bible believing Evangelical. Evangelicals continue to show the 1982 anti-Mormon film The God Makers to their congregations or refer people to youtube to watch it.

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    • GWest
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 2:03pm

      Evangelicals say that this film is a “Cartoon banned by the Mormon church” and claim that it is an actual portrayal of Mormon theology. This shows the degree of sincerity to which an Evangelical is engaged in when trying to figure out how Mormons view their own faith. When an Evangelical tells you he loves you and prays for you whether in the beginning, middle, or end of his berating and belittling your faith, in reality he just loves the sound of his own voice and the seeming intelligence behind his own theories about what and how you believe. Nowhere in any conversation does and Evangelical really attempt to get answers. If you can accept a left wing talk show host or a comedian’s ill-mannered shtick and lecture that speaks critically of what others hold sacred, an Evangelical will reinforce what you already think about Mormons. An Evangelical’s portrayal of Mormons is as ugly and hateful as anything they decry in the media. Evangelical’s scattershot and ad hominem attacks on comment boards against Mormons don’t add up to a coherent critique, and most aren’t qualified to provide one. An Evangelical aims for laughs instead of insight — and aims low, and then follows up with a provocation, thinly disguised as a sincere inquiry usually is almost as funny as it is offensive. Being snarky and smug doesn’t equate to providing insight, and many occasions Evangelicals lose sight of this in their zeal to spread the Gospel According to Evangelicals.

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    • GWest
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 2:04pm

      Evangelicals mock things they don’t understand about a Mormon’s belief and it becomes clear that an Evangelical’s view of the Mormon faith is based on a sophomoric at best reading of it. In the end, Evangelicals suffer from the same rigidity of thought and animosity of religion that they dislike in people on the left. Evangelical’s comments about Mormons are nasty, condescending, small-minded, self-amused and ultimately self-defeating. They’re only accomplishment is to make all religion look bad — and in this political, social climate we don’t need an Evangelical’s help with that. Its only once the Evangelical gets called out on their unchristian, un neighborly behavior that they’ll say that they’re just concerned with your soul and that they’re just preaching the truth with love and hey they just want you to be sure that your right so you don’t end up alongside Marx, Nitsche, Hitler, Stalin, and Joe the drug dealer from down the street. They’ll say that they get that you don‘t like anyone telling you that you’re not a Christian when you’ve been raised to believe that you are and if someone came along and said that to them, they’d probably defend themselves too. But then they’ll start back up with the preaching truth with mocking and telling you to defend yourself. Who knows what an Evangelical actually believes, they’re so busy telling me what I believe and how stupid my beliefs are to know.

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    • GWest
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 2:05pm

      when an Evangelical claims to be a Christian and a Conservative while mocking my faith on one comment board than saying we should all just come together man, it leaves me wondering how much more interesting the comment boards might be and how effective conservatives could be if Evangelicals focused on living their religion rather than focusing on how my religion, although has very nice, upstanding, patriotic, honest folks, is just so damned stupid and evil. You can’t be a Christian or a Conservative just reading about the parable of The Good Samaritan you have to live it.

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    • GWest
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 2:07pm

      When an Evangelical tells you he loves you and prays for you whether in the beginning, middle, or end of his berating and belittling your faith, in reality he just loves the sound of his own voice and the seeming intelligence behind his own theories about what and how you believe. Nowhere in any conversation does and Evangelical really attempt to get answers. If you can accept a left wing talk show host or a comedian’s ill-mannered shtick and lecture that speaks critically of what others hold sacred, an Evangelical will reinforce what you already think about Mormons. An Evangelical’s portrayal of Mormons is as ugly and hateful as anything they decry in the media. Evangelical’s scattershot and ad hominem attacks on comment boards against Mormons don’t add up to a coherent critique, and most aren’t qualified to provide one. An Evangelical aims for laughs instead of insight — and aims low, and then follows up with a provocation, thinly disguised as a sincere inquiry usually is almost as funny as it is offensive. Being snarky and smug doesn’t equate to providing insight, and many occasions Evangelicals lose sight of this in their zeal to spread the Gospel According to Evangelicals.

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    • Ars21689
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 2:26pm

      Obama went to a church where the pastor preached about the government creating AIDS. I’ll take a Morman any day.

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    • selloursouls
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 2:50pm

      @Snowkalebes, not sure how the LDS church banned that cartoon. Now are you saying that the Church encourages its members to avoid it? If I can watch it on Youtube how is it banned? Don‘t use words that don’t apply. This may shock you but the church does not go into people’s homes and take their property. I am fine with you spreading anti-LDS propaganda if that is your perogative, but don’t try to say that the church has the power to “ban” anything. If the LDS church banned the video from being shown in LDS buildings then that makes perfect sense and should be expected. Why would the church allow anti-LDS material into their buildings? Thanks for the “Christian” love though.

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    • Simonne
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 2:56pm

      I find your remark very disturbing. You seem to think your type of Christianity is the real one. Christianity is free of bigotry. I have been shocked from reading message boards that so many people are bigots. I was brought up in a real Christian home & I actually believed a very small percentage of people are bigots, now I’m not so sure.

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    • Faith1029
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 4:49pm

      SONOFTHUNDER: “Mormons are not Christians.”

      I saw on TV 3 ex-Mormons speaking out against Mormonism. One was a priest for many, many years and one was the great-great granddaughter of Brigham Young and is now a born again Christian. She stated some of what you said, and said the Jesus they worship is not the Jesus of the Bible. It is another gospel, another Jesus. That God was first a man and had to work His way up to be God as what they all are hoping to do so they too can become God’s of their own planet and have spirit children. That Satan is Jesus brother and God has a wife. The former priest said some of these things the Mormons don’t even know until they are into it further. They say they believe in Jesus Christ, but it is not the Jesus of the Holy Bible. There were other things to numerous to mention but you can look online about what Mormons won’t tell you. I am sure Mormons are good people, but they are a deceived people. I say this not to be insulting, but in hope the Mormon’s will look into this further and pray God will open their eyes to the truth.

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    • Darren
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 5:10pm

      Snowkalbebes;

      “Watch this cartoon the mormon church banned. It’s hilarious and scary at the same time. We need to ask Mitt and Glenn if they actually believe any of this garbage.”

      What‘s funny and scary is that you actually believe that’s what Mormons believe. And how exactly did the Mormon Church “ban” that cartoon?

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    • Darren
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 5:21pm

      GWest;

      You’re a genius!

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    • Darren
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 5:30pm

      Faith1029;

      Why do research online when right here you can find out *exactly* what mormons believe?

      There arespecificities that are not openly discussed but “secret” neither. To this I am referring to the LDS temples but everything tha thranspires there are biblical. In fact evetrything there is found right in the Bible. It is up to God when His things are reveale to man and how they are revealed. We are not creatures to demand anything that is God‘s to made made known unto us lest it be by God’s own will. In the end temples are places of solomn worship through performing good works, and where God’s children may draw closer to Him by learning of him and making promises to the Lord to follow his word and to serve him and others. LDS Temples are places where there is truly no inequality one to another and about the closest place one can get to heaven while in mortality.

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    • Nasado
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 5:51pm

      @Faith1029
      You do realize that a priest in the LDS faith is an office of the priesthood usually held by boys between the ages of 16 to 18 right. It not someone who could speak on behalf of the church or its doctrines. Also, there is nowhere in LDS doctrine stateing God has a wife. Yes, many members guess that He does but it is not taught. The scriptures state that we are heirs of God and joint heirs of Christ and that Christ will gain all that the Father has. So does that not mean we too can gain all that the Father has? If not, please inform me what those scriptures mean. If you look into the beliefs of the LDS faith and see how actual LDS members support those beliefs then you will find they are all supported in the Bible. Now, my interpretation may be different than yours in the conclusion of what the scriptures say, but so do most christian denominations and that is what we are left with until Christ returns and tells us the exact meaning of all scripture

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    • Nephi294
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 8:30pm

      @ SNOWKALBEBES,

      The cartoon you say was alledgedly banned by the LDS Church was produced by a former member (Ed Decker) Ed likes to takes things out of context and mix truth with error. Want to know why Ed is a former …… he was excommunicated for Adultery. If you want to believe some one like that then have at it.

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    • Faith1029
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 8:39pm

      NASADO:

      Christianity teaches that no one can achieve the status of God—only He is holy (1 Samuel 2:2). We can only be made holy in God’s sight through faith in Him (1 Corinthians 1:2). Jesus is the only begotten Son of God (John 3:16), is the only one ever to have lived a sinless, blameless life, and now has the highest place of honor in heaven (Hebrews 7:26). Jesus and God are one in essence, Jesus being the only One existing before physical birth (John 1:1-8; 8:56). Jesus gave Himself to us as a sacrifice, God raised Him from the dead, and one day everyone will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord (Philippians 2:6-11). Jesus tells us it is impossible to get to heaven by our own works and that only by faith in Him is it possible (Matthew 19:26). We all deserve eternal punishment for our sins, but God’s infinite love and grace have allowed us a way out. “For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord” (Romans 6:23).

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    • Darren
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 9:15pm

      Faith1029;

      ‘Christianity teaches that no one can achieve the status of God”

      I think that has what traditional Christianity has become but the truth is that a) the Bible does indeed procliaim divinity to the status of a god, b) we are already gods as children of the “most High” and c) Christianity has a very rich historical past in teaching man becoming God.

      “Athanasius became the spokesman of the classical doctrine of Christian divinization: “God became man in order that man might become God.”"

      http://maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/publications/papers/?paperID=5&chapterID=36

      Athanasius was the bisphop who was the primary protaganist in the Council of Nicea which formulated the Holy Trinity.

      “We can only be made holy in God’s sight through faith in Him (1 Corinthians 1:2)”

      Exactly what Mormons believe.

      “Jesus is the only begotten Son of God…, is the only one ever to have lived a sinless, blameless life, and now has the highest place of honor in heaven”

      Exactly what Mormons believe.

      “Jesus and God are one in essence, Jesus being the only One existing before physical birth”

      By “essence” I assume you mean of immaterial essence then you are absolutely unbiblical on both accounts.

      “Jesus gave Himself to us as a sacrifice, God raised Him from the dead, and one day everyone will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord”

      Exactly what Mormons believe.

      (con’t)

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    • Darren
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 9:18pm

      (con’t)

      “Jesus tells us it is impossible to get to heaven by our own works ”

      Exacty what Mormons believe.

      “and that only by faith in Him is it possible”

      “Sola fide” is not biblical nor was it part of Christian dogma until the 15th century.

      “We all deserve eternal punishment for our sins, but God’s infinite love and grace have allowed us a way out.”

      Exactly what Mormons believe.

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    • Nasado
      Posted on February 26, 2012 at 1:28am

      @Faith1029
      Jeremiah 1:5 “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you; and before you came forth out of the womb I sanctified you, and I ordained you a prophet unto the nations.” KJV

      “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.” NIV
      How did God know him and sanctify him before he was born if we did not exist? Also, if a soul does not exist before birth, then why is abortion a bad thing? The soul was not created yet so there is nothing to lose. Please explain how your belief reconciles with most Christians stance on abortion. It does not make sense to me.

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    • Nasado
      Posted on February 26, 2012 at 1:30am

      Also, how could Jesus be the only one who existed before birth if satan and the angels that were cast out with him existed too?

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    • Lonescrapper
      Posted on February 26, 2012 at 9:24pm

      I know an evangelical who became a Mormon and calls Evangelicalism “Snake Oil Salesmen” – should I listen to him because he was an Evangelical and now is anti Evangelical?

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    • @leftfighter
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 9:59am

      @Hayeksgirl

      You’re incorrect. Find the bible nearest to you and reread Luke 23. TWO of the men on the cross went to Heaven. Once mocked and declined his last chance into heaven.

      Now, that said,

      Mocking Mormon magic underwear isn’t funny? Planet Kolob isn’t either? Next thing you‘re going to say is that god doesn’t look like this: http://images.wikia.com/southpark/images/b/b7/God.png

      If you remember, South Park said that the right religion was Mormonism, but god on that show is a Buddhist, just to mess with peoples’ minds.

      Continuing the mess with minds theme… Factor Jesus’ salvation out on one side and the Evil Emporer Zurg (Xenu) on the other, and Mormons and Scientologists aren’t seperated by much– and even Mormons find Scientologists insane.

      Just sayin’.

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    • @leftfighter
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 10:15am

      @SonOfThunder

      On this site, it’s best to shut up when comparine Mormonism to Christianity. The heavily Mormon population that frequents the site will only debate it endlessly while employing eisegesis by pulling single verses out of the Bible to corroborate the BoM and their other texts, rather than simply looking at the Bible and BoM on the whole and seeing that the Mormon (if you want to call it this,) doxology is not Christian and the theology is wildly anti-Christian.

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  • ltcwilly
    Posted on February 25, 2012 at 7:02am

    Every….every…..every single parent is an exception, just ask them. Have you ever heard a single parent say, “I think my children would rise to the level of ‘amazing’ if they had a father/mother in their life.” To rationalize is to tell rational lies.

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  • pwned
    Posted on February 25, 2012 at 1:19am

    His humor totally blows. (pun intended) This is what the left will do. It will be like water torture. drip drip drip Won

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  • adm68
    Posted on February 25, 2012 at 1:00am

    Yeah as a Mormon this offends me, but I do not want to see Mr. Blow lose his job over this. The reason why Christians are targets is because we follow the teachings of Christ, this includes turning the other cheek. This man losing his ability to provide for his kids is not going to soothe me. Somtimes justice needs to be tempered by mercy.

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    • Gumbercules
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 5:45am

      I do want to see him loose his job. So many others have for lesser offenses. He doesn’t appear to be sorry with a statement like “I do so with no caveats”. No humility there – pure arrogance.

      Besides, how do we know he is a great single-parent? Again, boasting his arrogance.

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    • holy ghostbuster
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 6:28am

      @ ADM68 – First, how is wearing “magic underwear” the teachings of Christ? Secondly, it is nothing more than a superstition perpetrated by a fraudster (Joseph Smith).

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    • ltcwilly
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 6:59am

      Immortal words of Neal Boortz: “You can’t be offended without first giving someone permission.”

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    • Latter-Day-Soldier
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 7:01am

      Holy ghostbuster, I am asking you where is your hard evidence that Joseph Smith was a fraudster?

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    • TomFerrari
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 7:27am

      1) I find his comments repulsive, despicable, and revealing.
      2) I do NOT want him fired. In fact, I will fight for his right to say it.
      3) I find it revealing of the socialist, left-winger-extremists’ utter HATRED.
      They talk like this amongst themselves so often, it slips into their public vernacular.
      4) I also find it revealing of their hypocrisy, that his fellow socialim-promoting left-winger extremists do
      not condemn such speech, except when it comes from a mainstream average American.
      5) I believe in turning the other cheek, because Christ commanded it. But, that does not dismiss our other Christian duties. Christ did not teach us to be doormats or whipping posts. We are the ARMY OF GOD and our sword is His Word.

      How about a petition drive to his employers, demanding he not be fired, but, that they appear on-air, with him, and reprimand him on live tv? Lol

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    • xmilitary
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 7:32am

      Latter-Day-Soldier: Please don’t start. Even a child that’s not been brainwashed knows the answers to that question. I’ll go so far as to reference a South Park episode in order give you your answer in a light-hearted way. Season 7, episode 12. (Dum, dum, dum……….smart, smart, smart)

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    • Nasado
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 10:47am

      @xmilitary
      No please, do go there. Obviously you cannot prove Joseph Smith wrong. The fact is I have had countless discussions on this topic and every time, people just use half truths, lies, things they have read oon the internet but never looked into, or just outright attacks that have not backing. Every discussion I have had, I have not lost because there is nothing to lose. Truth is truth, and nothing will ever change that. The LDS faith is a Christian faith and frankly most people who know an LDS person will agree with that. Christ sure would too. If you do want to claim we are not Christian, please add this “disclaimer: This is based on my narrow minded version of Christianity and has no basis on either the definition given throughout the Bible or that wich is given in the English language.I am simply repeating what my (pastor, bishop, friend, exc) stated without doing any actual research myself.”

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    • ModerationIsBest
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 12:45pm

      Heck, Rick Santorum is now saying that Protestants aren’t Christians either. So funny to see different denominations of the same church arguing over who are “true” Christians or who are “true” Muslims.

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    • veruca salt
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 2:28pm

      That’s a logical fallacy, Nasado. Just because someone can’t prove Mr. Smith wrong does not mean he’s right. The burden of proof is on the person making the assertion. Mr. Smith claimed an angel gave him golden tablets, yet no one except Mr. Smith ever saw these tablets? What if someone made that claim today? Would you believe it? Where are the tablets? Produce them and I’ll convert and apologize for thinking the basis of your religion was a crock all this time. To be fair, I don’t think LDS is any crazier than the rest of them. All religions obstensibly give their followers a free pass to suspend critical thinking.

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    • selloursouls
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 3:09pm

      @ Veruca Salt, Okay I usually avoid these topics because religion discussions over the internet are as successful as Liberal Policy. But your post needed a reply. From your post I gather you are agnostic or atheist so I will refrain from mentioning any faith-based topics. However, your claim that only Joseph Smith saw the Gold Plates is incorrect. There were 11 other people who signed testimonies saying they saw the Gold Plates. I am not trying to prove anything just letting you know that your assertion of only one person seeing the plates is wrong.

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    • veruca salt
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 4:20pm

      Fair enough, Selloursouls, I stand corrected. A rhetorical question, though… Does this make the story any more believable? Please correct me if I’m wrong, but weren’t these folks all somehow associated with the early LDS church? Doesn’t that raise some suspicion? Not trying to argue, but to a skeptic, this still sounds very fishy given the players involved and their motivations. Again, would people coming forward today making these types of claims be believed outright without question or be asked to produce some hard evidence to substantiate their claim? I would certainly expect the latter.

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    • Nasado
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 4:28pm

      @veruca salt
      selloursouls is correct, there were 11 othe people who saw the plates and testified to it their entire lives. Despite many of them either leaving the faith, being ex-communitcated from the faith, and even openly going against Joseph Smith afterwards, not one ever denied what they saw and heard. That alone would be more evidence than would ever be needed in a court to prove someones truthfullness. So history has proven Joseph Smith as truthful as well as those who knew him and interacted with him. So now the burden of proof is placed on those who disagree with testimony and history. I have taught many people, and had many discussions on the topic over the years and while I know I do not know everything, not once have I been asked a question, or told something about Joseph Smith that with research I could not answer. I do not expect everyone to believe as I do but I hope that in the future people will investigate the truth of accusations before they attack with them. (No saying that you did, just a general statement to many on the Blaze)

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    • holy ghostbuster
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 5:15pm

      Golden plates? Jews migrating to the Americas in 600 BC? The Garden of Eden in western Missouri? Really? No fraud there! Of course in my opinion all organized religion is fraud on some level.

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    • Nasado
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 5:58pm

      The Bible said that the children of Israel were scattered across the earth so is it really hard to imagine some of them coming to the Americas? The vikings did long before Columbus so why not? Also, why could the Garden of Eden not be in Missouri? The only thing the scrpitures say is that it was eastward. Not the land was far different whan the world was created and we do not know where they were when they said that. They could have been looking at the ocean on the Califonia coast for all we know. And yes, scintists say man originated from Africa and that is where people believe the Garden of Eden was located. But, if you believe the Bible, then the origin of man would be from the place Noahs Ark landed, not the Garden of Eden since everyone was killed but Noah and his family. Just saying you can’t have it both ways.

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    • Nasado
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 6:01pm

      BTW, please disregard the spelling errors. I was typing in a hurry and did not proof read.

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    • veruca salt
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 7:10pm

      Bigfoot exists! I know, because I caught one and have it in an undisclosed location for safe keeping. I will not show it to you, but I have 11 close, credible friends to whom I have shown Bigfoot and they will vouch the beast exists. So, please take this as conclusive proof of the legendary Sasquatch. If you really press me to see the creature to satisfy your doubts of its existence, it will escape its cage (or be given back to an angel, in the case of the tablets) the day you show up at the undisclosed location.

      I’m not mocking you and not trying to set up a false choice, but I don’t see much difference between the Golden Tablet story and the Bigfoot claim. Thanks for the discussion and have a nice night.

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    • Nasado
      Posted on February 26, 2012 at 1:20am

      @veruca salt
      I do understand what you are trying to do. But with your example, if those same friends left you started to hate you, told all maner of lies against you, and even tried to fight against you, defame you, persecute you, and sought to destroy you in any way possible (which is what several of the people who saw the plates did later in their lives) and all they really had to do was say you were lying about big foot to utterly destroy you but they never denied it, would you not be more willing to believe it? YEs that did happen to Joseph Smith. Those who saw the plates gained nothing from it other then the testimony of the experience. The did not gain power, wealth, fame but instead lost much of what they had on multiple instances but they never denied it. If you were telling a lie, and were persecuted for it and constantly had hardships and loss because of it, and all you had to do to make it go away is tell the truth, would you not? On the other hand, if you knew it was the truth, and you were told by an angel to not deny it or else (which you would believe in God after that I would imagine) would you not hold true to that no matter what happend to you? If those men and Joseph Smith were lying, what did they have to gain or did they gain from it?

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  • dontbotherme
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:54pm

    So… is he going to be fired? His apology was not sincere & left a lot to be desired. Getting so very sick of the constant faith bashing. If I am not mistaken, the “magic underwear”, as so many choose to offensively call them, are worn as a reminder that you have made a faith commitment. My Catholic Grandmother (from Germany) once explained to me that she wore the undergarments that she did, as a reminder of her marriage vows (as did my Grandfather). There are many ways to express one’s faith & commitments. It seems as though the only people who mock the way faith is shown by others (whether private or demonstrable) are those who have no faith.

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    • TheObamanation
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:59pm

      They defend the burka to the bitter end …

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    • ghostsouls
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 12:04am

      I am sick to death that people get fired left and right until it is a liberal/democrat lame stream media idiot. He needs to be fired, and everyone should send a letter to the editor of the NYT. I sent my letter. They have spoke out against others who have said less. That was a blatant attack, that was unwarranted.

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  • TheObamanation
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:50pm

    Who cares what the dementor says …

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  • peteto1
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:48pm

    I think Mr. Blow might have gone “bananas” when he tweeted that!……….

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    • Gumbercules
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 5:47am

      LOL, I see what you did there . . .

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    • who_is_john_galt_in_RI
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 7:20am

      why go there? when did two wrongs ever make a right? now if you were to say that his name describes him perfectly, i could respect that comment…

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  • paperpushermj
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:39pm

    Your apology is not enough. You must refrain from political commentary forthwith until after the November Elections. Until then just cover the Westminster Dog Show and similar events until you prove yourself.

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  • ddg7
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:37pm

    Boy am I relieved! Of all the things going on in the world I was most concerned about this idiot’s tweet! Now if someone could just confirm that it won’t rain on the night of the Oscars.

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  • fmadsen
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:36pm

    What’s the difference between this and the Jeremy Lin situation…Oh I forgot in the U.S. media it’s O.K. to denigrate religion, especially Christians… I’ll bet the NY Times would fire him for making a slur about Islamic religious garb. Bill Maher, Howard Stern, Kathy Griffin, HBO, and some commentators on MSNBC and CNN often mock Christians sometimes in vile and hateful rhetoric, with no apology…and then there was Tim Tebow. I didn’t see any apologies…and then there was ESPN Dana Jacobson’s tirade, “F— Notre Dame, F— touchdown Jesus, and F— Jesus.” Jacobson was suspended from ESPN for one week. I rest my case.

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    • starman70
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 12:49pm

      Yep, ESPN fired the editor who wrote the commentary an suspanded the anchor who read it, all over a phrase which has been in use since medevial times when knights wore armor. A “***** in ones armor” could be fatal and would have been of great concern to the wearer. The phrase has been in common usage in the American vocabulary for decades. I’m 72 and remember hearing it when I was a small lad. There was never a reference to anyone from China or anyone of chinese descent, it referred to any weakness in ones defenses.

      The ultra liberals have as usual made a mountain out of a molehill. The stupidity of the left gets more and more unbelieveable every day.

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  • Pigpen
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:36pm

    Oh, GREAT! We have an overpaid NYT writer declaring unto the world that he is a black, single parent and PROUD of it, and if we Cr@ckers don’t like it we can blow it out our underwear!

    Hey, WHiT3Y, how is that diversity working out for ya?

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  • Steelhead
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:34pm

    Beck’s magic undies must be huge

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  • COFemale
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:32pm

    Hey Liberals want to hate equally. They don’t want any religion to feel left out except Islam. See Islam is special to them. They can’t talk badly about Islam, because that would insult the President something fierce. This is why Rahm Emanuel, a Jew, left the WH. He was tired of Obama’s two faceness and lies. It will all come out once Obama leaves office.

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    • Steelhead
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:44pm

      are Mormon‘s considered Christian’s? a lot of Blazers think not and because of that they will never vote for a Mormon

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    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 2:49am

      @ Cofemale
      There is another reason for the pass given to Islam by the Left. Quite simply, it is dangerous to criticize Islam and leftists are inherently cowardly. Not all of them, of course. But as a group they are not brave people — either physically brave or morally brave. (Sorry, trolls — quips in a Blaze post do not count as being brave.)

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  • duffer319
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:30pm

    Sounds like this left-wing nutt job has lost incommon with is last name. NY Times should fire him but they wont cuz hes one of them. I‘m proud i’m of the same faith as Mr. Romney.

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  • JJBlazeReader
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:24pm

    ..

    No surprise here. If Mitt Romney is the nominee the bigoted liberal media will skewer Mormonism. It will come from the left.

    Good old ultra liberal Ted Kennedy never let anyone forget Mitt was a Mormon with the associated wink and nod about those crazy Mormons.

    We will stand with the Mormons but they should be prepared to turn the tables on the bigoted liberal media and the rest of the Democrat’s surrogates.
    ..

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    • selloursouls
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 3:21pm

      Sadly, I think a lot of bigotry will come from the right as well. No matter how Conservative an LDS member might be (not saying Romney is a strong conservative he does cause me some concern) that isn’t enough for a large number of Evangelicals. If I never said what my religion was and just talked politics there would be a lot of people here that would most likely vote for me but as soon as my religion is mentioned suddenly I am a pariah to those same people.

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    • JJBlazeReader
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 7:22pm

      ..
      Selloursouls
      Twenty years ago if you told a Catholic or a Conservative Evangelical that Evangelical Ministers were laying hands on and praying for a Catholic who was running for the Republican nomination – they would have said you were on hallucinogenic drugs.

      You and I have similar thoughts on Mitt. I also am not sold on Mitt’s conservatism but if he is the nominee I will vote for him.

      I would venture a guess that most evangelicals have trouble accepting him as a conservative and I theorize that if you reverse the denomination of Mitt and Rick, i.e. Rick was a Mormon and Mitt a Catholic, evangelicals would still line up behind Rick because they would consider him more conservative than Mitt.
      ..

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  • OlefromMN
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:22pm

    Cool! Now I can say whatever I want about any Democrat Communist Socialist Pig ( my apologies to actual pigs as you are tasty) and just say “oops, my bad” the next day and all is forgiven.

    Glad the bar has been set so low.

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  • GWest
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:20pm

    Charles Blow? Evangelicals pull the same crap day in day out on conservative blogs.

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    • GWest
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:23pm

      only, they don’t ever apologize, cuz they’re saved from sin.

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    • JJBlazeReader
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:58pm

      ..
      Gwest
      There are more for you than against you. Franklin did not say not to vote for Romney because he is a Mormon, in fact he said just the opposite. The religious community needs to stand together and not get diverted on debating our different theological/doctrinal issues. Franklin forgot this in his last comments.

      Evangelicals and Catholics fought each other tooth and nail until we finally came to the realization of our unity in Christ. The Manhattan Declaration was a result of this. No one gave up their differences but we realized we must stand together to benefit our society/the American society and all citizens.

      God forbid the government ever persecutes Mormons again. If they do look me up I will hide you, cloth you and feed you until the problem is solved.

      The attack on Mormons will come from the left, they hate all Christians.

      Peace
      ..

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    • GeorgieBaby
      Posted on February 26, 2012 at 1:38am

      @JJBLAZEREADER – Thanks for the kind words. The Mormon church and the Catholic church also have quite a good relationship, especially with sharing LDS programs for strengthening families and charitable and humanitarian missions. My brother served as an LDS missionary in Rome, and he had some wonderful conversations with priests and other Catholic church officials. He said it was so nice to talk to people who were friendly and respectful of the LDS faith, and they offered the same friendliness and respect toward the Catholic priests.

      And thanks for the offer to clothe, feed, and hide us if anything should happen. I am confident in saying that the LDS church and its members would offer the same to you and your family!

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  • groundzero
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:03pm

    The political bias of these hacks is not only absurb, it leaves me to believe that these news organization should be required to file with the federal Election Commission as a Democrat Party orgnization and not a news organization.

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  • slr4528
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:58pm

    If any candidate is going to protect our religious freedoms it will be Romney. All one needs to do is read the comments on the blaze and the romney comments in any other blog and you will see how Romney’s religion is insulted on a regular basis.

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    • lillith goby
      Posted on February 26, 2012 at 2:02pm

      Psychologically speaking, when you feel anger, the other person’s goal is power (or conversely, you feel your power about to diminish). There are two basic human emotions that all others are based on Love and Fear. Of course hate, jealousy, envy, all fall under the fear column. God is Love so what force in this universe of balance rules and uses fear to divide. The Prince of the Earth, the Father of Pride IMO.

      Blow’s tweeted semi-takeback is good enough for me. A Mormonism: “Charity or the pure love of Christ, is not easily offended”. If it wasn’t followed and we had to get our backs up at every slight and ignorant statement of those who tell us what we believe and practice, our restoration Christianity “cult” would have burnt out from our own hate long ago.

      I think this was what the Bible told us long ago quoting the Apostles telling of Jesus’s teachings, not all of which were captured in the Bible, obviously, but what a spiritual refreshment those that are are.

      Theology is one thing, but in rendering to Ceasar and wishing to help shape oour world, necessitates “living in the world, and not being of the world”–to be as Jesus said “as wise as serpents and harmless as doves”. Tall order when you are just human and feel like above posters at the inequality and hypocrisy of some in the liberal movement and their media political activist journalists.

      Mormons are not protected by hate crime laws, the US having declared us mainstreamed. I would as

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  • PJL
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:50pm

    Why is this okay? LDS besmirching seams to be acceptable, even on this site. I don’t get it. Gee if someone says ***** in the armor they lose their job, or somthing about gays put on leave. These backward Mormon haters say what nasty thing they want and then say sorry with a wink and a nod and it’s OKAY. Well it’s not Okay, We all need to stand up against this crap.

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    • PJL
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:00pm

      You actually censored that word, why? It’s a saying, been talked about how stupid it was for ESPN to fire the writer for it. It is not racist. WOW.

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    • Lord_Frostwind
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 12:30am

      It’s nothing new for us. People say things about us that would have gotten them blown up long ago if it was directed against Islam. It’s the reason why I became completely dead to the tolerance movement, they don’t show any respect for my kind, so I am not going to show any further consideration to their “rights.”

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    • GeorgieBaby
      Posted on February 26, 2012 at 1:47am

      @LORD_FROSTWIND – You are very right about the tolerance movement. Tolerance is moving away from a good Christian value, to an “anything goes – don’t judge me” value.

      A few years ago, the USA Network started its “Characters Welcome” campaign, and they have piggybacked it with a tolerance/anti-hate/discrimination message. It all sounds warm-and-fuzzy, but this anti-tolerance/hate/discrimination messages is somewhat of an indoctrination of people against those who believe in core social values.

      Especially those who believe marriage to be between a man and a woman, and right-to-life issues. This message could easily be ammended to call Christians haters, intolerant, and such. I am watching this campaign very carefully. It is geared toward young adults and teens. The moment the message is ammended and expanded is the moment that we really need to be watchful of. Our society will change radically – especially for those of faith.

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  • Rayblue
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:50pm

    I have magic socks.
    One of them always pulls a Houdini when the wife washes the clothes.

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    • Latter-Day-Soldier
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 7:07am

      I have a few of them too.

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    • Jenny Lind
      Posted on February 25, 2012 at 11:39am

      Read a great story once about where lost things go-it has to do with the dryer, but I never had the courage to climb in and look for the “doorway”. Hey, it made as much sense as things I’ve read on this blog!

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  • 13th Imam
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:48pm

    Didn’t ESPN just fire an employee for making a funny joke about a b-ball player?? Oh yeah, I forgot, it’s perfectly OK for any Progressive DEMOCRAT PUKE , to demean any Republican. Anytime, anywhere, anyhow.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:51pm

      Why are we sweating what the NY Times says. The only time it’s read is when the Bums pause to look at it to see if there is blood in their stool.

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  • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:47pm

    And I truly appologize for calling the reporter a Magical Unicorn Excrement Pixie Fudge, Packing A$$ Hat. I truly am sorry to Unicorns and Pixies.

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  • oriondma05
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:44pm

    It’s alright Charles, we understand. You were distracted by you urge to riot for the upcoming Nike Foamposite shoes that you didn’t even realize that your words were hurtful.

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  • JACKTHETOAD
    Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:43pm

    His name fits him to a tee, and I’ll bet he has tinfoil underwear to match his hat.

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