NY Times Op-Ed Evaluates ‘Dr. King‘s Newest Marcher’
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Pulitzer-prize winning author Taylor Branch evaluates 8/28:
LIKE the historic original in 1963, Glenn Beck’s commemorative march on Washington has produced a clash of perception. Marchers celebrated rather than besieged the capital, and sweet piety floated above tribal antagonisms. Responses of disbelief have mingled once again with giddy, puzzled surprise. This time, by embracing the legacy of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., stridently conservative speakers revived hard questions about symbolic fusion in politics. Did their words invite a rare shift in the landscape? Or did they merely paint a mirage?
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Comments (222)
BurntHills
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 8:34amas much as these writers try to say “nice” things and write up a big op-ed on GB, they still cannot refrain from hitting him from behind, they are trying to get a new base of readers from the RIGHT as well as pleasing their Left. simply put, they are appealing to the Right as best as they can, to try to get Readership UP and save the NYT. if everyone on the Right would dump the NYT, they’d see what truth in journalism [and op-ed's] used to mean.. and still does.
Report Post »beekeeper
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 8:09amI noticed the following passage in the NYT op-ed, and it is so similar to what many reporting/opining about the Rally have done:
“Only Mr. Beck knows the alternative. Perhaps he would have mocked the 1963 march on its sacrosanct turf, remaining the daredevil ideologue who has posed in a Nazi-like uniform to spice his torment of liberals.”
After stating that only Mr. Beck knows the alternative, the author goes on to imagine exactly one possible scenario, one that suits the outhors preconceptions and story line – if we’re gonna start making stuff up, why not assume Mr. Beck was gonna have a big milk & cookie party on the National Mall? How about we imagine he was going to invite President Obama to the mall for a three hour discussion with some of his harshest critics?
I was angered repeately this past week reading coverage of th Rally – writers would quote, say Glenn stating the Rally was not political, then in the next sentence they would assure the reader that the rally was indeed political, a harbinger of the Tea Party/GOP prospects this November.
I eagerly await the day when the Left will assert that we need to rename the Lincoln Memorial to the Martin Luther King, Jr. “I Have a Dream” Speech Backdrop – then we will see plainly their efforts to re-write history to suit their current political needs.
Report Post »CorpsmanUp
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 7:56amIt should amaze me that Taylor Branch has such an ability to give a compliment and turn it around in the same sentence. I say it should amaze me, but it has now become the standard by which the mainstream press does it‘s business when dealing with anything they don’t understand. (Which is, in itself, an aweful lot these days.) They will reognize that the event happened. They now HAVE to recognize that it went off, without violence, as planned. They recognize that Glenn didn’t say anything about political parties. They have to recognize that the crowd was massive and diverse. (Photo and Video Proof is everywhere but that still won’t stop some from accusing it of being an “Old, White Folks Rally” )
Report Post »What they REFUSE to mention, is that Glenn and company (All 500000 of them) raise over 5 Million Dollars for SOWF. The mainstream media types, who have worked so hard to push the socialist agenda, don’t want to take the message for what it was. That would cause them to have to re-evaluate their own philosophy, spirituality, concience and the way they live their lives as a whole. There are still a lot of people in America who are not ready to do that. (That would equate to growing up.) Unfortunately, many of these people ARE the mainstream press of today. They live not by “Let your concience be your guide” but rather by “Let your Ego and Arrogance be your guide”. Taylor Branch confirmed this with the way this article was done. Branch had every opportunity to give the facts. Instead, the choice was made to turn the facts into another attack.
Sad.
The_Shonz
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 7:45amCan Taylor Branch cite any of research into the archives that he mentions? I would think…
Why am I even taking my time to type this? The last week has been so funny listening to those on the left trying to downplay and mock the 8/28 event. This article is just another example of how the left and the elitists just don’t get it. But then again they really are smarter than the rest of us, aren’t they?
Report Post »bigtruck1956
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 7:15amThe relationship between Glenn Beck and Sara Palin seems very close. Looks like they are spending a lot of time together. Could it be they are having an affair? This would be quite the bombshell. Who could blame him anyway she is a very attractive woman. Only time will tell but it seems they are in a lot of places together. One must wonder what places we do not know about they might be visiting.
Ronrico
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 9:50amBIGTRUCK1956 = Troll, ignore his stupidity!
Report Post »ernie_price
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 11:49amBigtruck1956,
That logic would be the same as saying that “Bigtruck1956 probably drove on the same highway as drug runners, maybe even stopped for lunch in the same restaurant. My god, WHAT is Bigtruck1956 carrying in his rig?”
Report Post »stchuckmom
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 2:09pmYeah, I’m sure they are having a clandestine affair especially since Glenn announced on his national radio program that he was going to Alaska WITH HIS FAMILY. Way to keep a secret there Glenn.
Report Post »dressseller
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 10:01pmUm. ..Ok. ….Well, where on earth to start with what you’ve alleged here BigTruck. ……So, I guess that 2 conservatives with a like-minded world view who by all accounts are each happily married to other people couldn’t possibly spend any time together without jumping in to an elicit affair? ….Using your logic none of us are capable of being in faithful relationships with our significant others and maintaining the integrity of that relationship if by some chance an attractive other person walks by us. We would have NO CHOICE but to jump their bones. …..Pardon me ..but I think that’s what separates us from the animal kingdom. Good grief.
Report Post »dmzrn
Posted on September 6, 2010 at 11:50amWhat is amusing and illuminating about your comment (and other comments from the left on this thread),
is the GLARING CONTRAST between the secular-humanist, statist ideology that is attempting to destroy our nation,
and the God-centered citizenry that holds fast to our founding principles and the Constitution.
Continue to contribute that we may continue to witness the fear and confusion from the left, and know that we are moving in the right direction.
Report Post »dazyann010501
Posted on September 6, 2010 at 4:36pmBigtruck1956,
Report Post »Shame on you!!! ;)
Overmanwarrior
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 7:15amThat NY Times article just goes to show how worthless a Pulitzer Prize is. Tribal antagonisms? I bet the people that were at that rally read more books than all of that authors society friends put togther, per capita of course. Tribal? Like it was thought they’d break out some shrunken heads or something. How out of touch.
Report Post »LIVEFROMWV
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 6:44amGlenn speaks from his heart, speaks to you, and not down to you. From the first time I heard our President speek, he never spoke to me. Glenn gives you the tools to make your own decisions. America has been asleep for too long and moving with Blinders on.
Report Post »Glenn makes it simple…Question, Research, Question some more, Seek out like minded people, and DON’T be afraid to do the right thing.08/28/2010 he gave us a challenge. Restore Honor, Turn back to God, and take the blinders off. He understands, as did Dr King, that Non-Violence is the only way. The Left opperates with anger and with anger words…Nazi, Racism, idiot,…ect.
Time, Patience, and Perseverance will accomplish All things.
SheriS
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 7:32amLIVEFROMWV—Very well said with straight to the point reality! All the analyzing is each individutals opinion, but you said what it really was about. Thanks to Glenn, I have been awake for some time as he has made me realize “I am not alone” when I am uncomfortable living in a country that is not the country I have lived in for six decades. We do not need a transformation, we need an awakening to the ways and values of our forefathers, certainly not from a newcomer who doesn’t believe in our Constitution or Bill of Rights, but sees them as a “pesky” piece of paper which is out of date. They are never out of date, but have lived for many years and been followed as if they were written today.
Report Post »FindKeyToTheTruth
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 6:28amThis guy is a narcissist elitist. It was hard to fine a sentence in the article where he didn’t take a shot at the event, Glenn, the guest speakers or the attendees. This was just another far left rant written from the mind of a superior (in his own mind) person. Oh such eloquent prose.
Report Post »tdaly
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 6:20am8/28 for me was about truth, honor, self governing and morals like I was raised by my parents. Be good do the right thing and it will come back to you ten fold. It always does. Look at our society over the last thirty years. We have forgotten about three simple values Faith, Hope and Charity. To me its being responsible for your own life. Don’t blame others for everything that happens. Stop expecting handouts. Teach our children the same. No, I don’t watch or listen to Glenn to get my religion. In my home we watch him and have for years because he is the best in the business if you want to learn what is happening to our country. We love the chalk board, the red phone the pipe the financial stuff and most important the humor. Kinda of goofy but that’s what we love about Glenn. He is good. And most importantly he walks the talk. Perfect no. Neither our we.
Report Post »So lets move on. We loved 8/28 but now we have a hugh election ahead of us like or not it is what it is. And We The People need to focus on what we need to do getting these communist out of office.
usabeth
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 9:52amWell said, thanks for putting my thoughts into words!
Report Post »Annie Fields
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 6:12amJust read Branch’s piece. I swear I could hear the sniffing of the superior Manhattan intellectual coming through the computer. Someday, years and years from now, Ms. Branch will reread this column, and if there is any justice in the universe, she will cringe.
Report Post »79USMC83
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 5:56amI feel the article was pretty good account of what happened compared to most of the SPIN and HATE articles coming from the left. The line “The actual rally befuddled and bored many viewers, especially sophisticated ones.” In court would be speculation , turns this part of the article into a FACT and OPINION piece. I watched the whole rally and like many who follow Beck thought is was going to be more like his show. Serious,Joking,History, Economy, and Political opinion backed up with facts from the mouths of the Career Politicians. Because I an one of the unsophisticated that DOES NOT KNOW all the answers already. The more I watched the more I HEARD the message!!!!!! Like Beck it was GOD that helps me STAY SOBER!!! It will be God and more of WE THE PEOPLE embracing GOD that will restore AMERICA. When they sang Amazing Grace
Amazing Grace
how sweet the sound,
That saved a wretch like me.
I once was lost but now am found,
Was blind, but now I see.
The tears flowed down this ole Marines face. saved me. AMAZING GRACE saved me!!!
How sweet the sound of what was said at Beck’s rally.
The befuddled and so-called sophisticated missed the message because they cannot hear!!!
Amazing Grace will RESTORE the America that WE THE PEOPLE love!!!!!
For those that are befuddled and sophisticated that were once deaf and arrogant.
AMAZING GRACE will make them HEAR and HUMBLE again!!!
It was a simple message, it is NOT about the Economy,the “Government Stupid”, the “Speech Giver” and his RADICAL POLICIES
Report Post »solvitur ambulando *** Deo
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 4:52amGlenn and the three guests he had on Friday clarified 8.28 for everyone. They all proclaimed that the reality of the event is that there actually is a Third Great Spiritual Awakening that is spreading across our country.
The problem for so many who don’t understand the Restoring Honor Rally is that we live in a secularized culture in which it is ok to say you believe in God but only if you accept the belief that God does not act in the affairs of man. For me the Rally was a deeply spiritual and uplifting event, but it was something more than that. When 500,000 people lift their voices and hearts together in praise and supplication to a very real and living God it changes reality. We live in a world “both seen and unseen”, and through prayer reality has shifted. Somehow, in an unexplainable way, things are not the same as they were before we all gathered and as a result of that gathering, things will never be the same. We picked up the Red Phone and called God.
What deists, and atheists, and agnostics and lapsed Christians and others who have lost their faith in God don’t yet realize is that there really is a great awakening happening. God is active in the affairs of men. For those in doubt, I invite folks to read the following speech by the Archbishop of Denver: http://www.archden.org/index.cfm/ID/4396 His speech is only one of many being proclaimed across the country.
On many web sites there are those who are questioning Glenn’s faith. To those who are questioning Glenn’s faith, shame on you. Are we to judge God as to whom He chooses to communicate to His people. None of us knows the path before us. None of us knows God‘s plan for Glenn and it is not my place to judge God’s relationship with Glenn. Glenn is not preaching to follow him. He is telling us to look into our hearts, find God, and transform our lives. He is preaching Faith, Hope, Charity, He is telling us to pick up scripture and read it. He is telling us to pray. Those who search, will find the Truth, and the Truth will set them free.
What I do know is that the Spirit is moving across our land. And as Glenn said on 8.27 prepare for the gates of hell to open as we take a stand for turn back to God as a nation. It will not be an easy battle, but it is a battle that is already won!
Report Post »kishamajors
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 4:59amSOLVITUR AMBULANDO *** DEO, Amen to that! =)
Report Post »David Shedlock
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 5:36amOne of the preachers of the First Great Awakening was George Whitefield, whom Glenn Beck often praises.
Here is a link to 50+ George Whitefield Sermons:
http://www.reformed.org/documents/Whitefield.html
And here is the most famous Great Awakening Sermon, Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God:
You can listen to it read or read it yourself here:
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=770213541
Here is an article on Beck and Whitefield: http://caffeinatedthoughts.com/?p=8174
Report Post »David Shedlock
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 5:45am“Are we to judge God as to whom He chooses to communicate to His people”
Yes, of course we are. We are especially to judge those who would presume to teach. The Bible warns against false teachers and prophets:
Jeremiah 23:32:
Behold, I [am] against them that prophesy false
dreams, saith the LORD, and do tell them, and cause my
people to err by their lies, and by their lightness; yet I sent
them not, nor commanded them: therefore they shall not
profit this people at all, saith the LORD.
Matthew 24:11-13
{24:11} And many
Report Post »false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. {24:12}
And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall
wax cold. {24:13} But he that shall endure unto the end, the
same shall be saved.
umilewski
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 6:25amThank you for posting the link to the speech by the Archbishop of Denver. I watch Glenn Beck because he helps me understand the big picture in America. Archbishop Chaput gives us the big picture of the Western World. I’ve been Catholic, an Atheist and now am a follower of Jesus Christ. I’ve lived in Germany and the U.S. This speech is a compelling summary of why we Christians of the West must actively protect our Biblical worldview.
Report Post »1BECK HAPPY WARRIOR
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 10:12amBravo – well said – and Amen.
Report Post »USAMama
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 7:46pmVery very well said. @ David, while we should certainly question with boldness, I do not believe Glenn is trying to set himself up as some kind of spiritual leader. You seem to promote that caffienated thought website a lot, I watched those videos and didn’t see anything incriminating in them, just a man who is passionate about his faith. He just wants us to know that we are not alone. The day he, or anyone else, starts proclaiming to be God or to are worthy of worship, then run for the hills no matter who they are, but I do not believe that is Glenns intention.
I heard him on the radio one day say that while preparing for the new Black Robe Regiment someone in the room said they could not align with all these other religions and someone else responded(forgive me, I can’t remember names) that they had all said they felt this calling in their hearts but none had taken the next step, so He had to go through an alcoholic mormon to get His message out. I found that funny, and I do believe God will use anyone willing to be the vessel. Who knows, maybe this is a learning experience for Glenn as well as I am sure God is not done with him yet either.
Report Post »pcmaddness
Posted on September 6, 2010 at 11:12amI have never felt that GB is trying to tell anyone what to believe.. He is only telling us we should believe in something!!! No GB is not a preacher Nor do I think he is trying to bear “false witness”, he just says what he believes from his experiences and shares it with his audience.. I will fairly say I don’t believe everything that comes out of his mouth either but he is right on many many things, the most important is family values, which I think we are in seriously short supply of in todays society… I personally feel that if you dont believe in something you will fall for anything, and that is a bad place to be !!! The bottom line is it doesnt matter what your religion is or your political views are, we only have to STOP the bickering about all this right and wrong crap and have enough respect for each other to let each other to let them live life as they may seem fit.. That is what america is about!!!! Keep the only free country alive so you can continue say and feel what you want without consequence.. America is not perfect because people are not perfect but who cares.. If people could learn to accept others for what they are instead of trying to change them we could all get alot further in life..
Report Post »kishamajors
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 4:13amI thought King was assassinated in daylight? Not drunk in a bathtub? What??? Maybe he’s referring to the King of Rock and Roll? I am not nearly as big of a historian as my husband is, but I am sure that I knew this one. I know this country believes in free speech but I thought it was the duty of a reporter was to speak nothing but facts!? Unless your not a reporter and your just a commentator. Even then it’s unethical (dont you think) to blatantly lie?
Keep the blaze going. It’s about the only place I trust anymore. =*(
Report Post »treuerwolf
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 5:05amThe drowning was of Alveda’s father A.D. King ,not Martin Luther King
Report Post »DaveInNC8
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 12:26pmDr. Alveda King said that her father’s lungs had no water in them when he was found dead. You can’t drown if you are already dead. She did not speculate on how he was killed, but she knew it was not the given reason of drowning.
Report Post »dazyann010501
Posted on September 6, 2010 at 4:18pmKISHAMAJORS:
Report Post »I looked at the website of the caffinatedtheology or what ever it is and he has a comment for everyone’s post on every subject they post. David Sheldlock is here just to argue with everyone on everything. Just ignore him. It is sad that he is going around trying to spread lies about others religions. We just need to pray for him.
And David don’t even start with me. Go back to your little blog. Because I will not respond to your selfish little antics.
BeaconForTruth
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 4:11amIt is indeed important to see what how Mormon Glenn is. I do think he may have misspoke at the rally. While it is important that your children know your faith, leaving the door open to pray actually contradicts the teachings of the Bible and something Jesus directly stated. According to the book of Matthew chapter six, verses five through eight: 5″And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. 6But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.”
Report Post »There are other ways to convey this to your children, like reading the Bible with them and taking them to church, but as Jesus said, prayer is a private thing that should be between you and the unseen Father.
kishamajors
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 4:22amAre you a Mormon? Before judging a Mormon for their beliefs please go and get as much information about them as you can before placing such blame, that praying in front of your children is wrong. You like a lot of people take Bible verse‘s and twist them into something that they don’t even mean. Just to suit your argument.
Yes go into your room. Get down on your knees. Humble yourself. And say what comes to your heart. I believe Glenn also means that it should no longer be a shameful thing (to pray). And show no shame in front of your children by leaving the door open or praying aloud with them. That is NOT going out on a street corner and praying aloud / rambling! Prayer is a loving thing to do. Share it with your family! For that which they SEE, they will do!
Report Post »kishamajors
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 4:34amThis really disturbs me Mr. Beaconoftruth. Please go to your teachers, your ministers, your church peers, or missionary’s and learn how to read the Bible.Read it in whole. For context also matters when reading scriptures. Because understanding the truth takes good knowledge and practice. Especially if you are going to be able to identify the truth when you see it! Like Shakespeare, just reading a sentence from the book doesn’t always mean the same thing you think it does the first time you read it. And sometimes it takes many times reading it before you truly understand it!!!
Report Post »David Shedlock
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 4:39amBeaconfortruth,
Kishamajors typifies the approach some Mormons take. He or she took your legitimate question and attacked you personally. You did not twist the Scriptures. One might make the case that in some cases it is acceptable to intentionally pray publically (Daniel opened his windows to pray (as was his habit)) when prayer was banned. But your question was legitimate.
Report Post »kishamajors
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 4:51amIn response to: David,
1. You don’t even know me, nor what religion I am associated with.
2. The original poster had NO question.
3. I did not attack him. I merely am saying that he is miss reading this scripture to suit his argument.
4. I am saying, read the Bible! Study it. Before coming to a forum and posting your assumptions of what a scripture says. While blaming Glenn and, his faith… that he is wrong in guiding people in this fashion.
If you are half as learned as he is, you’d never say such a things. I teach my children faith and prayer. It is our duty! Children need to see it and hear it to learn it! It must never be a shameful thing to pray.
Report Post »BeaconForTruth
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 4:59amKishamajors,
I know the history of the Mormon religion and I have toured a Mormon Temple. I was agreeing with Truthlover (my post did not get put in line with that one due to technical difficulties). Furthermore, have both studied the Bible through sermon and pastor-led study. Please do not think evil of me, simply because you disagree with my interpretation.
David Shedlock,
I appreciate the response. So, at certain times public prayer is acceptable, but would not the other methods be more effective for instructing children? I grew up in a house that went to church nearly every Sunday, both my parents taught Sunday School and Vaction Bible School, to which I both attended and assisted when I was old enough. I seemed to have learned about Jesus, God and Christianity, not through by mimicking my parents, but through a foundation received at church and by reading the Bible.
Report Post »David Shedlock
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 5:04amYes, I agree with you wholeheartedly. I was simply suggesting that there is more than one possibility here, and unlike Kishamajors, look at the issue fairly.
Report Post »David Shedlock
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 5:10am@Kishamajaors.
Please don’t look down your nose at people that disagree with Glenn Beck. He does not know more than everybody else. Recently, he took a potshot at Trinitarian Christians by claiming that we persecuted the Essenes (those who hid the Dead Sea Scrolls) during the time after the Nicene Creed. The problem is that the Essenes had already disappeared by the time the Creed was adopted 250 years later. This was Beck’s failed effort to attack Christians but he was plainly wrong.
To watch the video of Glenn lying about the Nicene Creed go here:
http://caffeinatedthoughts.com/?p=8846
Any simple internet search will show that his facts were wrong, way wrong. It was not a mistake, it was intentional.
Report Post »kishamajors
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 8:42amDavid,
Your the only one here with the know-it-all attitude. Believe what you like about me, Mormonism, or Glenn. If that makes you sleep better at night. More power to you. It is not my job to teach you or anyone else here anything. I simply am speaking my mind, as you are. It is up to you (as Glenn says frequently) to find out for yourself. The truth with rain down on us one day. And then we shall see… won’t we?
Meanwhile, I’ll still be praying openly with my children. I won’t feel bad about it, not once, not even slightly… I will continue teaching them the true word of God and about our Lord, Jesus Christ.
Report Post »Have a wonderful night. Sleep well!
wonderbug
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 12:00pmSetting a good example for your children is exactly correct. Let them see you praying — that’s what Glenn was getting at. This does not contradict Scripture. This Scripture passage is meant to emphasize that prayer is more than putting on a show. Don’t just put on a show, be the real deal. Be a person of prayer and have a real relationship with God all the day long, not just when others are watching you.
Report Post »rocktruth
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 2:13pmI agree we need read the bible with our children, even daily. But our children do what we do. Jesus said “Do not forbid the little children to come to me”. Misrepresenting your faith even by hiding it from your children is not good. Jesus said “Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe to stumble, it would be better for him if, with a heavy millstone hung around his neck, he had been cast into the sea.” Teaching our children to pray in their bedroom is a good thing. Teaching our children to pray long prayers, on the street corner, by themselves for recognition, is not.
Report Post »helena
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 4:05am“After marrying his second wife Tania in 1999, the couple converted to Mormonism.”
Report Post »sim
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 3:29amGod Bless Glenn.
Report Post »helena
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 3:23amThe New York Times is probably getting financial support from Soros. If they aren’t, I can’t imagine how they are staying afloat.
Report Post »TruthLover
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 2:49amI love what Glenn has been doing, and I‘ve been excited about his shift to focusing on faith and restoring this nation’s godly foundations, but I am beginning to get confused. How Mormon is he really? From all I cold glean from comments over the years on his shows, I thought he became a born again Christian and then chose to practice his new faith at a Mormon church. I‘m taking a risk and asking point blank here because it’s going to become more and more important as Glenn steps into a very different role as spiritual leader. Is he a Mormon, or is he a born again follower of Jesus Christ who happens to go to a Mormon church? I want to support him 100%, but I cannot in good conscience support any spiritual movement that doesn’t point directly to Jesus, the cross, the resurrection, salvation through faith and not works, and the sole diety of the Trinity. It’s one thing to lead the nation in a political correction movement, but to be a spiritual leader; people need to know exactly who they are following and where he is taking them. I know it takes years for a good Mormon to learn all the church is into and espouses, so I wonder if maybe Glenn is just a newbie or too busy to notice?
Report Post »Fellowservant
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 2:53amHonestly, I usually feel more like I have been to church after watching the Glenn Beck Show than when I really do go to church.
Because of Glenn I started reading the scriptures again and my whole life changed in April 2010.
Report Post »TruthLover
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 3:04amWow. That’s a great testimony. Praise God.
Report Post »chiquelitz
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 3:47amAnyone, pls correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe Glenn became a Mormon after he met his current wife. He was on a self-destructive path, and he attributes her and the Mormon religion to saving his life.
Report Post »SoulSearcher
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 4:19amAbout Glenn’s beliefs…
It’s not about whether or not we believe the same things. Glenn points out regularly that some of the founding fathers had vastly different religious views. The important thing is that we all agree that something “greater than ourselves” has a hand in what’s going on.
This isn‘t the Church of Glenn Beck that he’s asking you to join, so I think it‘s a mistake to start nitpicking on a person’s beliefs and lose sight of the much more important thing… the restoration of THE PRINCIPLES that our nation was founded upon.
David Shedlock
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 4:32amTruthlover, it would be wonderful if it were true that Glenn was naive about Mormonism. But over the last couple of months he has shown that he both understands the LDS and desires to push this false religion on to others:
Here is where I document some of Glenn’s efforts to push Mormonism.
http://caffeinatedthoughts.com/?p=8821
Even in the big rally, he started talking about “Native Americans” being among God’s chosen people. This is a distinctly Mormon notion gained from the claim by Josephs Smith and the Book of Mormon that Jesus appeared after the Resurrection to lost tribes of Israel in America.
Report Post »David Shedlock
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 4:42amFellowservant wrote: “I usually feel more like I have been to church after watching the Glenn Beck Show than when I really do go to church.”
This says more about your church or your additude at church than it does Glenn Beck. Does Glenn Beck preach the gospel, is there an opportnity to sing Psalms of praise, and pray together. God never promised he would build a radio program, he did promise to Bless and build his church.
Report Post »JPSUNBUNNY
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 4:59amYour comments and concerns are appreciated. I, personally, don’t look to Glenn as my “spiritual leader.” I’ve been taking this more as a bringing together persons of faith in God to unite in prayer to for our country and the basis of its foundation. I do look to Glenn’s shows for information that I may further explore and question and am, admittedly, inspired. I’m, though, following Jesus Christ and Glenn Beck is not taking me anywhere. Opening my eyes to issues? Yes. My “spiritual leader.”? No. My Grandmother was Catholic and married a Mason. My father was Catholic and married a Lutheran. My parents raised their children Catholic. My Mother took me to Lutheran Bible school once and my Grandmother called her out on it – I still remember drawing Angels at the Lutheran Bible school that I wasn’t able to attend. My father left the Catholic Church and attended the Lutheran Church (I don’t know what synod) with my Mother. I married a Catholic raised in Catholic schools who turned away from the church. We now have a mixture of Catholics, Lutherans, and Evangelicals in our family and those who do not attend a church but state they believe in God. I attend all three churchs as the occasion may call for because I want to be with my family. Our family politics range from stanch Democrat to those who have left the Republican party and call themselves independent conservatives. And, for all of those who disagree with me, I pray to God that they retain the freedom in the United States to do so – and, some of them think I’m on the fringe for even considering that people in this country may lose their freedom and/or freedom that may have already been lost.
Report Post »I’m no expert at anything and have not stated “what’s on my mind” until The Blaze. Thank you for allowing me to ramble.
Cesspool Czar
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 8:09amHe added his own saucy twist to the final pledge: As you prepare to march, meditate on the life and teachings of Jesus. “If it’s Buddha, it’s Buddha. If it’s Moses, it’s Moses. But meditate,” Mr. Beck exhorted his viewers. “Jesus, he’s my guy. Your guy might be different.” – Beck is not endorsing any one single religion, he is telling you that you should embrace your religion and apply it more to your life.
Report Post »Subjectivist
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 8:12amI am Subject to the will of Christ the King and He commands us in Luke chapter 9 vs 49-50 “49 And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in your name; and we forbade him, because he follows not with us. 50 And Jesus said to him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.”
Report Post »Glenn Beck and I do not share a common doctrine, I am a Baptist and he is a Mormon, but we both seek to serve Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. That is all I need to know to fellowship with him and work toward the common goal of restoring Faith, Hope, Charity and Honor to our beloved United States of America. Christ commands that we work towards His will, and forbid not those others who do the same.
grandmaof5
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 8:18amWhile I understand your concern, it is my observation that Glenn wants us to look unto ourselves and make our own decisions. Look to your Priest, Rabbi, Minister, not to him – he is only giving us the outline and we have to fill in the details. I don’t get a sense that he is trying to push us towards anything except becoming better, more informed citizens and trusting in God that He will lead us out of this mess. God bless.
Report Post »juliaflyte
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 8:33amI am not a Mormon, but I do know that Jesus tells us that “by their fruits you shall know them.” He also tells us that you’re either for Him or against Him. I think this all boils down to a battle between good and evil in this country, and what I witnessed on 8/28 in DC was good. We must have the freedom to know, love, and serve God as we choose. That is clearly a big part of Beck’s message.
Report Post »wonderbug
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 9:02amI LOVED the rally. Loved it! My Catholic self cried my eyes out it was sooooo beautiful. But since then sometimes I hear comments that sound more like a warning flag. The ones about “leave your Church” if you’re not getting what you need. I want to say, “Don’t leave the Church!!!!!” For goodness sake!
So much good happened at that rally. God-fearing people united! They UNITED. I can take a bit of abuse, but too much and I’ll shut off from listening to you. Glenn — my tv friend — you have my prayers. It’s a slippery slope, kind of a tap dance to bring people to God when you’ve got so many different kinds of listeners.
Then again, your own example is witness enough. Just keep on keeping on. Lord knows, I’ve learned a great deal from watching your show. Let’s keep united and focus on getting the truth out about our politicians and our government.
Our government pays the imam?! I don’t get it. Prayers!
bobby535
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 9:36amIt’s not about your religion, my religion, his religion, or her religion. It is about God. If you take the politics out of religion (we are right, they are wrong), you are left with God, and love. We should not judge anyone on their faith if they are good people in general. If your faith, no matter what it is makes you a good person, what could possibly be wrong with that? Put that in Gods hands.
I think that is the point of all of it. And I can see nothing but good coming from a culture where we are tolerant of good people, regardless of faith, or skin color.
Report Post »YOURBROTHER
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 9:51amI’m LDS (Mormon). To quote the first article of faith “We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.” Mormons believe that Jesus is the Son of God. He is our redeemer. That he suffered for our sins. Paid the price in Gethsemane and finished it on the Cross and was Resurrected and Lives. The only difference is we believe God the Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost to be separate distinct beings. That’s all. So it’s simply a difference in how we view the Godhead… and we don’t believe our works will save us. We as humans have no power to do that. Only through Christ is salvation possible but if we truly believe in Christ then our fruits should show that by what we do. So we strive to do service and charity. Hope that helps.
Report Post »aafriend
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 10:26amWith respect for all walks of faith,
On my own spiritual journey i have come to realize one thing. in my opinion God is love. its is each individuals choice to follow Gods love in the manner they choose. myself i have converted from a different faiths and then end result was only one answer for me. truth and love. To me God Is truth and love. God gave us free will to go out and do his bidding, in my opinion he does not make plains fall from the sky, terroests blow up buildings, cancer in loved ones, we are men and women and from the begging of time we had free will, we created everything after Gods beautiful creation. we build planes with our hands, we build buildings, we create chemicals that are harmful to man, we don’t leave plants alone in there beauty thus we make drugs and alcohol from them. we has humans have created the boogie man in our lives, There is no boogie man ! its my opinion god released us with love and free will and is looking down on us, he is the ultimate judge. it is my opinion God gave us grace and asked us to seek him out, Grace________________God, close the cap and become one with our creator, God/Grace, thus one with god. as man we try to confuse mans free will with Gods will. none of us are god. we are all on a journey to seek the truth, i choose to not be of any faith and have a open mind, though through seeking the truth and love i rely on many different forms of gods word. please let me share one.
Lord, make me an instrument of thy peace!
That where there is hatred,
I may bring love.
That where there is wrong,
I may bring the spirit of forgiveness.
That where there is discord,
I may bring harmony.
That where there is error,
I may bring truth.
That where there is doubt,
I may bring faith.
That where there is despair,
I may bring hope.
That where there are shadows,
I may bring light.
That where there is sadness,
I may bring joy.
Lord, grant that I may seek rather to comfort,
than to be comforted.
To understand,
than to be understood.
To love,
than to be loved.
For it is by self-forgetting that one finds.
It is by forgiving that one is forgiven.
It is by dying that one awakens to Eternal Life.
Amen.
aafriend
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 10:50amI believe we as man are to busy trying to right than listening to the truth, its my opinion that Glenn is seeking the truth and asking us to join him. if we all navigate our lives from a loving, caring, sincere heart and stay out of selfishness and self centeredness we all will find the truth and live with a God consciousness that will be un deniable.
Report Post »ernie_price
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 10:53amI think you are missing the point. He is NOT a religious leader and doesn’t want to be. He sees religion in it’s overall meaning to be the answer to what is wrong with our politics and the world in general. What church or denomination YOU belong to isn’t as important as the fact that you take the time to evaluate what you do believe, if appropriate join a church or take an active role in your current church, AND live by what you believe NOT just give lip service or show up on your sabbath day just to appear righteous.
In case you weren’t paying attention, there were Catholics, Protestants, Jews and Muslims on the steps with Glenn on 8/28. Who knows there may have been some Hindus and Buddhists in there somewhere.
Not all of these believe as you do about “Jesus, the cross, the resurrection, salvation through faith and not works, and the sole deity of the Trinity”.
Did you listen to what was said by Glenn about what this is about? If you have them review some of his TV and radio shows from the last few months and LISTEN when he talks about 8/27 and 8/28 and who he wanted to participate. He isn‘t pushing Mormonism he is encouraging an examination of faith and a return to our founding father’s view of faith in relation to government.
Report Post »icantdothis
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 11:19amGlenn Beck should never become your spiritual leader and, as far as I know, he never claimed he wanted to be. Glenn is a talk show host and a very good one at that! Listen to the truths he speaks and take them as you will. Go to your place of worship and get your spiritual leadership there.
Report Post »wonderbug
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 12:15pmThank you all for the thoughtful posts here. I hear you:) Peace & prayers.
Report Post »alienguns
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 1:02pmDavid Shedlock, did you know that recent excavations of ancient American indian sites have turned up ancient Hebrew writings and artifacts? ….did you know that the Ten Commandments is inscribed on a rock in New Mexico dated to the time of King Solomon…… following article below…hmmm… science backing up the lost Israel tribes in America. more and more scholars and archeologists are coming to this conclusion.
http://godssecret.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/oldest-known-10-commandments-is-in-america-in-ancient-hebrew-script-from-time-of-king-solomon/
it also states: The old customs of the American Indian people included many rituals that were the same, or partially modified, from the equivalent Hebrew observances of the Mosaic Law.
I think there is a lot more to REAL history than the public (kept in the dark) know.
Report Post »jlee80644
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 4:42pmNo matter Glenn’s religious beliefs, we all didn’t start watching to go to church everyday. We started watching because he brought us information we weren’t getting anywhere else. Along the way the audience has grown and the voice has become stronger. Now we find ourselves in a place that may seem uncomfortable but we have to trust in God. We have made this journey along with Glenn. We are all in this time and place for a reason. Focus on the common ground we all have and leave the differences for God to figure out.
Report Post »USAMama
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 6:15pmWhen Glenn introduced the 9/12 Project it was to let people know “you are not alone”. I believe that is his goal here, its not to convert anyone or be anyones “spiritual leader” but rather to let people of faith know that we are not alone. We may not all be in the same denomination, but we can all agree that there is a God and without Him our country is in big trouble. For too long the athiests and progressives have been convincing people that there is no place for God in America, making the religious feel like the outsiders. Glenn just wanted to unite us all so that we can know that people of faith are not the minority.
Report Post »David Shedlock
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 9:50pm“The only difference is we believe God the Father, Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost to be separate distinct beings. That’s all”
No, that is not all, Tell the Truth, now, please. You believe God has a wife. You believe God has sexual relations in heaven. You believe there is more than one god, in fact millions or billions of Gods. You believe you will become God, and that God the Father was once like you. Your documents state that you believe that you are saved by grace and works and believing in Joseph Smith. To Mormons, the rest of the church is apostate. There is no salvation outside the Mormon religion. You believe that Adam and Eve sinned and that it was necessary to fulfill God’s plan.
There are scores of differences between historic Christianity and Mormonism. Would you please quit trying to act like you are Christians. Try to make your case that you are right and we are wrong, but don’t lie and say we are basically the same. We are not.
Report Post »David Shedlock
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 9:55pm“did you know that recent excavations of ancient American indian sites have turned up ancient Hebrew writings and artifacts? ”
You are gullible. These are all Mormon fantasies and lies.
Report Post »YOURBROTHER
Posted on September 6, 2010 at 11:57amDavid, sure there are much greater depths to mormon theology than what’s on the surface. BTW you are wrong or slightly off on several points. In the proper context I think you would find mormon theology quite logical. You would of course have to have an open mind and actually have an honest discussion with a mormon who knows their faith. You don’t think Glenn has researched and knows his own faith? Mormonism works for him. It works for me. It’s not for everyone. No one here is looking to attack or be attacked or convert you. The point is that Glenn believes in God and Christ. He wants us to unite on biblical principles and the teachings of Christ. Only on such principles can this nation stand and be free. I was only attempting to help TRUTHLOVER understand that mormons are Christian and that Glenn’s core principles are his/her principles as well. I think we can all agree on those core biblical principles hence the point of the 8/28 rally.
Report Post »Fellowservant
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 2:47amI guess you had to know anyone with the “Pulitzer-prize” winner tag beside their name would be full of nothing but dribble.
While I could not read the whole article, of that which I did read the following was most offensive:
“He offered his audience no further clues to a mysterious transformation, but my cringing search of his program archives turned up — amid diatribes on Dr. King as a dangerous socialist, and on President Obama as an alien Muslim — a novel encounter with Dr. King’s niece, Alveda. Her first invitation to appear on Mr. Beck’s show suited his political mold, because she is a defiant crusader against abortion rights and gay marriage.”
Glenn has NEVER ONCE even hinted that Dr. King was a Socialist. Glenn has always held Dr. King in the highest regard.
And then there was this lie:
“Glenn Beck did not adopt nonviolence explicitly for the “Restoring Honor” rally in Washington. That would have been too wrenching a leap for his followers and opponents alike. After all, nonviolent doctrines have been submerged, ignored or forgotten across decades of ethnic assertion and perpetual warfare, even by many heirs of the nonviolent movement themselves.”
Report Post »firstHat
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 3:52amI stopped reading in exactly the same place. What utter lies! I just can’t believe how these people can lie so fervently in such a public way with absolutely no compunction. You‘d think they’d at least tell a half truth or stick to telling half the story, but no, they end up with bald faced lies. It is sick!
Report Post »kspatriot
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 8:30amIn reading through the comments and various articles about the 8/12 Rally, it’s easy to tell between those that have honor and integrity and those that are in need of “restoring” along with our great nation. I’d say on 8/28 for the first time in many years good honest people out numbered the dishonest and corrupt on capital hill. NO…those that were at the rally both physically or in spirit already “get it”. Those that keep trying to negatively portray or smear the event, for political gain as well as those that are outright lying in many of the comments and articles need to do some restoring of their own honor. What causes a person to consciously lie or manufacture facts about someone or something and not even feel like they did anything wrong? Everyone knows the difference between right and wrong. How you apply that knowledge shapes your character.
Report Post »jmlsmb
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 2:46amI don’t think his cringing helped his search. GB has never expressed anything but devotion for MLK. This article did make me laugh, though. The author was no doubt trying to be nice, but being such an elitist, he saw no problem dismissing the vast fan base as simple children who don’t know any better, but at least behaved very well for one day. Gee, thanks!
Report Post »NeoKong
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 2:39amThat rally scared the hell out of the lefties. The people who showed up were peaceful and committed and they couldn’t find a shred of racism. It destroys their whole argument for the fall.
Report Post »November is coming like the four horsemen and they cannot stop it.
Buh bye Harry .Buh bye Nancy.
Buh bye majorities.
KentuckyGentleman
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 4:02pmand the Mall was really clean afterwards… I was there.
Report Post »Honor2010
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 2:39amMy favorite elitist line in this piece, “The actual rally befuddled and bored many viewers, especially sophisticated ones.” I bet God finds it humorous that the NY Times author wishes for a more sophisticated topic. Faith, hope, and charity are topics reserved for the lower-class; those of us, “clinging to our guns and religion,” as Obama stated. How ridiculous ….
Report Post »Diane999
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 5:39amYes… it was so simplistic and boring that it is still confusing the “sophisticated” media talking heads and punditry, who are struggling for the meaning of four simple words: faith, hope, charity, and … honor.
I’ve seen this kind of confusion before. These people don’t seem to understand that sacred moments are not big whiz, bang, with bells and whistles and sirens. They don’t know that sacred times are filled by that quietly intense sweet joy and peace. And so, when they see this being experienced by others they have to assume boredom… how very sad.
Report Post »BECKELICIOUS
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 9:40amThere’s a reason Liberal media outlets are dying.
Report Post »THEY ARE THE FRINGE.
Of course they always defend their out of step opinions with the majority of Americans
by using their predictable rationalization, their desperate race baiting card,
“Well you know, at one time a majority of Americans believed in Slavery.”
independentvoteril
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 11:28amIt’s SAD really the left is SO twisted up in KNOTS they no longer can make a statement without offending their own base.. Many of those that were with GLEN BECK were and are DEMOCRATS.. I didn’t see ANYONE who was bored.. well maybe a few that were journalist who had to figure out how to spin this to the left..and make it seem not relevant when it was MOST assuredly relevant and they just realized it..
Report Post »jlee80644
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 4:21pmWe can’t let 20% of the population run this country anymore. We‘ve got to inform our neighbors of the news they haven’t heard and encourage them to find more for themselves. And above all, vote, vote, vote.
Report Post »fedup
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 2:37amwas that a compliment?
Report Post »boydboyd
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 2:35am“He offered his audience no further clues to a mysterious transformation, but my cringing search of his program archives turned up — amid diatribes on Dr. King as a dangerous socialist, and on President Obama as an alien Muslim —”
Report Post »Lies and damnable lies. The Times cannot NOT write smears.
alsoentity
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 7:39amExamples please.
Report Post »Ronrico
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 8:47amALSOENTITY – Pretty much the whole article was a smear………….
Report Post »912er
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 9:47amlinks to the archives you “listened” to would be helpful… thats why i love “the blaze”, even the kooks posts get published…
Report Post »kierstin1989
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 10:04amIndeed – that would be Al Sharpton describing King’s dream as a socialist dream and then Glenn defending Obama, reminding us that he is indeed a Christian – a Liberation Theology Christian for sure, but NOT a Muslim!
What a disingenuous article!
Report Post »Veritas
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 11:03amboydboyd, I caught that same part of the article. How can they keep getting away with these lies!!
Report Post »jlee80644
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 4:27pmPlease do not project anger upon honorable people. It does nothing to further your cause.
Report Post »jrobert39
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 5:33pmBoydBoyd,
Report Post »THANK YOU!! I was scrolling my way to the bottom to point this out. Obviously, this person has no idea (and has really done NO research) on Glenn, Glenn’s program, or 8-28.
BTW if no one responds to the trolls, we don’t have to scroll as far to read relevant thoughts on topics.
Just sayin’
USAMama
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 5:43pmExactly…. I would like to know the EXACT episodes because I record them all. NEVER did I hear Beck say anything of the sort. This is pathetic.
Report Post »GlennBeckIsADemagogue
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 7:37pmPeople! Wake up! You hate the “msm” the same way my teenage political heroes did. I thought the media was biased. And liberal. And dishonest. And self-serving. (of course, to an extent, i am still right). And then I was stunned when Spiro Agnew resigned. Stunned again when Richard Nixon resigned.
And then it turned out there were reasons why Nixon and Agnew constantly engaged in name-calling with the liberal biased media. Just as some day you will figure out why Glenn and Sarah and Rush hate the msm. It’s not a new game. Just different players on a different day.
Report Post »tranquilrider
Posted on September 6, 2010 at 8:01pmDon’t bother. These people are true believers. They are following and worshipping a man who has contradicted his every statement for 2 years now. A man stands in front of thousands and preaches “restoring Honor” LOL. The same man that makes fun of little girls (Presidents daughter), calls the POTUS a racist, tells people to run from churches, don’t give charity, etc…. I thought this ralley was to unveil “THE PLAN” lmao. Keep drinking the koolaid folks, the end of the world is coming. Only my sponsor “goldline” can save you now.
Report Post »David Shedlock
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 2:32amI have reviewed at length the relationship between Glenn Beck and Martin Luther King, Jr., both the similiarities and the differences:
Some of these thoughts can be found here:
http://caffeinatedthoughts.com/?p=8548
danglingbags
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 9:32amHow can you people be so gullible as to be believe Glenn Beck cares about your cause? He justs want to pick your pockets and sell you gold. Remember…God is good, gold is better…buy gold!
Besides, most of you are evangelical christians.. This guy is a Moron heretic in your eyes.
Glenn Beck believes the Jesus arrived in North America a few hundered years ago to talk to the native americans. BECK BELIEVES IN A TWISTED FORM OF JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE IS NOT ONE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (commonly called Mormons) teaches that upon death, the spirits of the righteous go to a Spirit Paradise, while the spirits of the unrepentant go to a Spirit Prison. Those in Paradise are to follow Christ’s example of preaching the Gospel to the those in Prison (1 Peter 3:18-20).[12] The living perform work in LDS Temples, providing vicarious ordinances for those in Spirit Prison, such as baptism (see 1 Corinthians 15:29),[13] that can only be administered in the flesh (1 Peter 4:6).[14] This allows the spirits in Spirit Prison to choose to accept or not accept the ordinance work. The Book of Mormon describes both Spirit Paradise and Spirit Prison as temporary states, preceding Resurrection and Final Judgement.[15] When the time of the literal Resurrection arrives, the spirits of everyone who has ever lived are reunited with their perfected physical bodies. The degree of righteousness or unrighteousness in which a person had lived his or her life (as well as the ordinances they have received) determines the resurrection state (level of glory) their body receives, whether that be the Glory of the Sun (Celestial Body), the Glory of the Moon (Terrestrial Body), or Glory of the Stars (Telestial Body) (1 Corinthians 15:39-42).[16] A person’s degree of righteousness also determines which Kingdom of Glory (Celestial, Terrestrial, or Telestial Kingdoms) they will attain after the Final Judgement.[17] The teaching (see I Corinthians 15, Doctrine & Covenenants 76) further is that there are also different times of resurrection, the righteous resurrecting first, and the wicked at the end of the Millennium.
Doc_Slammin
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 10:05amYou go buy gold.
Report Post »IndianaJeff
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 10:12am“Let he without sin cast the first stone.”, or “wherever two or more are gathered in his name”.
GOD used may on earth that wouldn’t have been friends with one another to get his word across.
He used hookers & tax collectors ect.. I am not saying the Mormans are eather in any way shape of form.
What i am saying is that GOD will use those that will bring glory to his name. I dont think GOD is looking down and saying well you are Morman & you are Catholic so you need to fight it out and the winner gerts my blessing. I think he looks down and says you are Morman & you are Catholic and you both show me love and respect in you actions.
The fastes way for the other side to get us off the mission is to get us to fight with each other. Let me say this. I am not Morman, however i will say this, I will stand with any Morman as long as it brings glory to GOD and to the advancement of his kingdom.
luckyme
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 10:30amyou are sick…too much caffeine? or worse you are so filled with hate you could never understand the people….the little people..I feel sorry for you.
EZBurns
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 10:49amA— don’t feed the trolls…. Pity them. Imagine what it’s like living inside that much cognitive dissonance. Besides, he’s here to get us off the topic and pick fights.
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 11:17amdanglingbags,,, Hope your getting paid well.. you make NO sense.. however.. TROLLS usually don’t..
Report Post »Large Eagle
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 11:43amdanglingbags
Report Post »Unlike Obama and all the little sheep that followed him to slaughter – it is coming – pray for Obama becuase he never preaches LOVE. Beck use to be Catholic and like the rest of us we still search for truth and the LORD’s face. We are not like you – the one with all knowing wisdom. Start a church and see how many people will follow your message let alone give you money to promote it.
captaindana
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 11:54ambags…….take a pill or something
Report Post »alienguns
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 12:17pmDanglingbags……..you need to buy a jock strap…your brains are hanging out your bottom…..are you afraid of Mormons?…boo..they are a scary lot aren’t they? do you know any Mormons? did you know your famous Harry Reid is a Mormon……I live in a Mormon community..oh no, .in fact I am Mormon…some of the best people I know are Mormon..hard working and charitable…..your imbecile rants make me chuckle..oh and did you notice how Clean the place was after the Beck rally and how filthy it was after Obama’s inauguration……just a difference in the type of people that attended both functions….now go away before I put a hex on you…..oh wait thats Voodoo not Mormon
Report Post »timeisnow
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 12:37pmDingleberry The Socialist
Nothing the NYT writes is ever correct, they always put Obama’s Radical Social Justice Spin on everything, just like you…You Whack Jobs are done, we know it and finally you know that Obama’s Socialist Agenda has been exposed like an oozing sore that will go away in November with the Tsunami that’s going to overrun the Progressives… Can’t Wait! How about you fellow Conservatives????
Report Post »rocktruth
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 1:40pm@danglingbags – Stop trying to use religious differences to divide us. We stand united against the Liberal Progressive’s philosophies and agendas. They hate most of the things We the People believe in like Smaller Government, Traditional Marriage, & Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness for the Unborn.
Report Post »timothy
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 3:49pmWhats your point? People of different beleifs shouldn’t band together? They shouldn’t have a voice? Mormons are somehow evil? Just trying to understand.
Report Post »Hanna
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 3:56pmI don‘t understand why people think that because one may agree with some of Beck’s Politics and even his call to get back to God, that we are suddenly promoting his brand of theology.
I have a lot of respect for Martin Luther King. He took a stand when it was really hard to do so. He believed what he believed and he lived it. That doesn’t mean I have to agree with everything he said or believed.
There are a lot of good ideas out there, put forth by a variety of people. We MUST stop demonizing one another and get down to the business of addressing our problems honestly and then finding solutions.
Report Post »RKBA Democrat
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 4:26pm@danglingbags. My. How quaint. A troll. Most websites zapped them a long time ago. I was kind of wondering whether they still existed. From the username being a notso witty slur on tea party members to the religious post intended to antagonize, this just stinks of trollishness.
I have just one question: is that you Robert Gibbs?
Report Post »oneoftheall
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 4:30pmDangle, you of all people should seek out God. Because, you are lost in your own blind hatred. You troll the site to do nothing more than spread your hate. In case you haven’t noticed, none of us care what you think. And, your copy and paste rhetoric is boring. Although, I’m sure your perpetuated ignorance will compel you to do nothing more. God Bless your soul.
Report Post »Huckabee Gingrich 12
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 5:45pm@DangleBoy
I’ll take a conservative heretic Mormon over a SecularCommunistHumanistLiberalEvolutionistProgressive anytime.
And thank you very much, but we (yes I’ll presume to speak for others) don’t need theology lessons or Bible copy and pastes from you. We’re all big boys and girls and know how to access the Scriptures. From this moment forward, I do not read or respond to your obnoxious comments. You’re dead to me. Hope you were Saved. Buh bye.
Report Post »coastierox
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 6:31pm@DANGLINGBAGS-
Report Post »I really like how you just attempted to “disprove” Mormons by using Bible quotes that support the Mormon beliefs. If I was a lesser man I would insert the word FAIL here, but I won’t.
BeeBee
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 7:21pmSTOP FEEDING THE TROLLS!
Report Post »If you quit responding to Dingleberry, he‘ll become irrelevant and the rest of us wouldn’t have to scroll as far to read relevant thoughts on topics. . . just sayin’
VagyokC4
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 7:25pm@DANGLINGBAGS.. You sound like one of those people who think America is a democracy… You stick to your God is good but Gold is better theory…
I’ll stick to my guns and religion and least we not forget my constitution :)
I AM THAT I AM
Report Post »CerveloR3
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 8:47pmDanglinbags obviously doesn’t get the point of any of this.
Report Post »izzyncade
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 10:00pmdanglingbags…… whatever……….
Report Post »teachingazteca
Posted on September 6, 2010 at 2:35amdanglingbags- I am NOT an evangelical christian, if anything am agnostic. But whatever religion you practice doesn’t matter- when someone lies, you can tell. You poor thing think only certain people can believe?
Report Post »Councilman
Posted on September 6, 2010 at 5:59amDanglingbags
Report Post »As John Adams said, “I am no bigot, I will pray with any man!”
This is not a time to place divisions between men, but to come together with a common goal of self-government, and reliance in God.
I will pray for you.
aafriend
Posted on September 6, 2010 at 9:29amIn Defense of Glenn,
Some insight on Glenn’s thinking. As Glenn has done in front of Millions of people, he has admitted that he has broken the grip of addiction. Coming from that deep dark place in life brings new hope and desire for truth and love. we find out there always has been a plan for us. we are asked to take responsibility for our short comings, clean house and start living a life filled with purpose, integrity, honor, values. it is truly a journey. we find out that we are called to be of service and do for others, Glenn is very clear on that, he embraces life and family. He has found love not only for his family and others but the most important love he found is for himself. to love others you must love yourself first. Glenn loves his country, family and truly trust’s in a power greater than himself which navigates him. When you start to live in the truth and have love for yourself and others you always will defend the truth and be fearless in standing up for the truth. Glenn’s journey with us is in progress, it has not all been revealed, none of us know the end of the journey, we trust, stay in the truth and let a power greater than our self navigate us. we are to be of service to others in many ways, this is part of Glenn’s Journey. i can tell you there are millions of people that understand Glenn’s thinking and support him. My daughter and i now have a great relationship after coming from the grips of my addiction. she loves Glenn and is nineteen. there is hope that the youth of this country are listening. She calls me and asks me if i am watching Glenn and asks questions about topics he is on. i to shed a tear, real men cry, today they are tears of joy. we have a saying between my daughter and i, if you want to come after the truth, pack a lunch, its going to be a long day. Lets keep seeking the truth none of us are perfect, we are all cleaning up something in our past. we are all work in progress. do any of us have the courage to stand up and take responsibility and admit our short comings. looking in the mirror is a tough deal, once you do, it is very freeing.
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oljw00
Posted on September 6, 2010 at 3:09pmDear Danglingbags:
You might ask yourself why you worry so much about other people not affording them to make up their own minds. I mean you allow yourself that very comfort.. It would seem to me to extend equally to everyone else.
And please leave out the Mormon bashing.. Bigotry is ugly regardless of where it comes from.
Report Post »dbreed
Posted on September 6, 2010 at 4:51pm@dbags
Report Post »Had Joseph Smith been alive yet, he would have been welcome at the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia.
Alvin691
Posted on September 6, 2010 at 9:44pmdanglingbags, why the hate? I am no bigot, I will pray with another man of piety.
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