NY Times: ‘Tumult of Arab Spring Prompts Worries in Washington’
- Posted on September 18, 2011 at 7:47pm by
Christopher Santarelli
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As the “Arab Spring” rolled along, may were quick to praise the new insurgent spirit in corners of the world where freedom has not widely flourished. Glenn Beck, however, raised continual concerns that the tidal wave of change might bring deeply troublesome outcomes. Beck was widely criticized for his arguments — even in conservative circles.
Now, as each month goes by, the supposed promise of the Arab Spring seems increasingly fragile. Even the New York Times is now highlighting the increasing “worries in Washington” as the “tumult” in the region rumbles along.
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told New York Times’ reporters and editors in a recent interview, that the US is facing an Arab awakening that nobody could have imagined…one that is “sweeping aside a lot of the old preconceptions.”
But the Times focuses on some of the worst-case scenarios that are now in play:
“What if the Palestinians’ quest for recognition of a state at the United Nations, despite American pleas otherwise, lands Israel in the International Criminal Court, fuels deeper resentment of the United States, or touches off a new convulsion of violence in the West Bank and Gaza?
Or if Egypt, emerging from decades of autocratic rule under President Hosni Mubarak, responds to anti-Israeli sentiments on the street and abrogates the Camp David peace treaty, a bulwark of Arab-Israeli stability for three decades?”
As relations deteriorate between Israel and both Egypt and Turkey, Washington finds itself in an awkward position as its three strongest American allies in the region are at odds.
“Diplomacy has never been easy in the Middle East, but the recent events have so roiled the region that the United States fears being forced to take sides in diplomatic or, worse, military disputes among its friends.”
Beck, as many of you know, has focused a great deal of attention on the dangerous unrest that has spread in the Middle East following the Arab Spring and how much this bodes ill for Israel.
The Middle East Media Research Institute recently reported on a delegation of Sudanese extreme Islamists who rallied in Gaza, preaching that, “The way to achieve change is through fighting, through Jihad.”
“Director of Sudanese Ministry of International Cooperation Ahmad Malek Ahmad: The way to achieve change is through fighting, through Jihad. There is no other way. Today, on Jerusalem Day, we saw the banners of the various mujahideen factions raised… You could see these banners raised by the men, whose cries ripped through the skies: “The Koran is our constitution, the Prophet Muhammad is our master, Jihad is our path, and death for the sake of Allah is our loftiest aspiration.” I wish I could have kissed all these banners…….
We’ve come here, along with the mujahid Hajj Majed, commander of the mujahideen in Sudan. He has come from Kurdufan, along with 5,000 mujahideen, in order to fight the enemy who incited against us – the Jews. Allah willing, we will be victorious. This is Hajj Majed, and he yearns to meet his death here.”
The United States and Europe raced Sunday to avert or delay the looming United Nations showdown over Palestinian statehood that could crush the already dim Mideast peace prospects. Secretary Clinton and the EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton met in New York Sunday in an increasingly desperate effort to bring Israel and the Palestinians back to negotiations without antagonizing either side or embroiling the region in new turmoil.
The Palestinians have rejected proposals put forth by former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair and seconded by U.S. envoys Dennis Ross and David Hale that would give the Palestinians the “attributes of a state,” including membership in nonjudicial international organizations, without actual statehood.
“It is too late now,”Mahmoud Abbas aide Nabil Shaath told The Associated Press. “The proposals (that) came to us … are not good even as a starting point.”
The crisis involving the Palestinian statehood comes as Israel’s ambassador is expelled from Turkey, and the nation’s embassy in Cairo is stormed and the one in Jordan is faced with protesters outside.
“The region has come unglued,” Robert Malley, a senior analyst in Washington for the International Crisis Group told the Times. “And all the tools the United States has marshaled in the past are no longer as effective.”
As the uprising has brought change to the region, the Obama administration watches to see what will emerge, and what threat or opportunity this brings to America and our allies.
“It’s a great opportunity for the United States, but we are constrained by budget and to some extent constrained by political obstacles,” Secretary Clinton said to the Times. “I’m determined that we’re going to do as much as we can within those constraints to deal with the opportunities that I see from Tunisia to Libya and Egypt and beyond.”
The Associated Press contributed to this article.





















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bhelmet
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:52pmProblems is the same players are still doing their work right here in America – hope enough wake up to that before it is too late.
Report Post »WatchingThePuppetShow
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 9:20pmCome on over fella’s got a bunch of pork sandwichs with a side order of .223′s for ya…be glad to set up a face to face with those hot 77 virgins!
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 9:22pmFor decades American diplomacy, carrot and stick routines and cash flows for peace are being swept aside is how that line above should read. Arabs in the region see America as a threat to Islam beliefs and they have seen how our values undermine everyone elses. They of course are intolerant of letting the slide into the NWO for them go any further. It is they who are turning the tables on their old masters of the 20th century. It is they who have used the system that has tried to enslve them against their keepers. They abuse the laws and the welfare systems in their host countries. They began to use their mosques to funnel monies around the world for their causes. They help not the poor like Christian churches, but fund Wars and terror. Now we wonder what hell we have unleased or better yet have slept with all these years. This goes way back folks through many an administration. There is an anciet sea of fresh water right under their noses and when they figure this out they’ll have everything they need. On Hillary: This picture tells a lot about her. She is a shrewd poker playing politician. Her face is a stone fortress that will not give up its secrets, lies and deception hidden behind the mask she wears. She can play the charmer in front of the cameras but I’ll but my life its a whole different deal when she is negotiating. I can only hope she is on the side of the good guys when she is dealing with the Arabs.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 10:40pmIs there a prayer rug in the WH???
Report Post »Pujols
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 10:53pmThis people all know what’s going on or they are STUPID!
Report Post »Tronix
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 11:31pm@Pujols
Report Post »Definitely, both
TomFerrari
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 8:43am@Watching – I’m pretty sure it is “72 virgins”…
though it never specifies that they are FEMALE !
ROTFLMAO ! !
Report Post »GIDEON612
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 1:25pm@TomFerrari
On the issue of the virgins gender. The Crayon teaches that women are equal to dogs and have no souls. Therefore when I am confronted by such individuals I ask them this in that context.
Report Post »” So since there are no women in your paradise, according to your own Crayon, who are these virgins? Little boys? ”
That is a great conversation-ender.
HD Veteran
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:50pmThought they were behind what’s happening in the middle-east.
Report Post »ashestoashes
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 9:08pm@HD Veteran// “I thought they were behind what’s going on in the middle east.. They in fact are. First of all, we have a Muslim in the Whitehouse, who said that if the political winds should shift in an ugly direction, he would stand with the Muslims. Hilary jumped in to help the Muslim Brotherhood take down Lybia. Then didn’t she and Obama help take out the friend of the US , Egypts Mubarack. Then of course Obama told Israel’s Bibi Netanyahu to just give the the muslims a good chunk of their already tiny country. So yep..I’d say that they are behind it all the way, and I think.. “There’s gonna be a showdown.”
kalli
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 10:15pm@ASHESTOASHES
Report Post »I totally agree…the muslim in the WH and soros are fully behind the arab spring. It‘s music to their ears as it’s always been their agenda. Destroy capitalism, you destroy America. Taxpayers are paying for the uprisings. The islamic flag is flying above the WH; many are too blind to see it. Prayers are needed to save America.
ashestoashes
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 11:43pm@Kalli..Have you read Zech 12,13 an 14? When I saw him walking across the stage with his wife after his catapultation into the Presidency, .I felt like hurling. Out of all the free countries in the world, and even ones like Great Britain and France who have excessive populations of muslims..not one of them that I know is being run by an Islamic.But for the prophecies to be fulfilled.. all nations will go against you know who, then Yeshua steps in to save her. Although in the end there will be only a remnant left..one third. We never could have seen ourselves going against her since she had been our ally.. so this makes perfect sense. The time may be close.
Report Post »mygunsweetness
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 11:51pmPrayers and guns and alot of ammo,
Report Post »Steve
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 3:36amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp4yHd0tCRQ
Report Post »barber2
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:48pmAh, the New York Times – the propaganda arm of the the American/ International Far Left ! Sort of the American version of the old Russian Communist Pravda . Many of the people who frequently make comments to its articles are surely the ones involved in the “Days of Rage.“ They have been calling for ”revolution/ street action ” for months. These are the “hate the rich/fat cat ” crowd to whom the Obama re-election committee has targeted its “tax the rich” cries . So the NYT is “surprised,” like the Obama administration about the drift of the Arab Spring !?? Well, all I can say is : I am not surprised by any of this !
Report Post »neverending
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 12:15amMany of us are not surprised by this either as many of us feel this was already all planned out before obama was implanted!
Report Post »joe alexich
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:45pmObama will leave the next President a big.big problem just like Bill Clinton left George W. Bush.
Report Post »Sarah Louise Palin - Part Time Politician, Full Time Parasite
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 9:15pmDon’t you mean: Big problems like Bush Jr. left for Obama???
Report Post »One of the strong
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 9:35pmLMAO at Sarah, grow up, get smarter, your drivel is WAY old….your man (if you can call him that…) tripled our national debt in his few years in office, and has done nothing but pursue misguided social justice to gain more governmanet control over the populace. Sadly, for you and your ilk, BUSH had nothing to do with that now did he? Go on, you can say it, try harder….admit….the truth shall set you free!
Report Post »scoter
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 11:30pmHELL NO. Obama mad every thing worse. And you Fu ** know it.
Report Post »Steve
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 2:29amSarah Louise Palin – Part Time Politician, Full Time Parasite
So here you have the continuing smoke and mirror progressive left campaign slogan.
“It‘s all Bush’s fault”
Good God. Liberalism surely is a disease.
Report Post »Mort
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 10:05amIf you cannot admire Sarah for her policy, you should admire her for her organizational and managment skill, as well as her marketing savy. She has turned from being a soccer mom and working mother into a very well to do national contender for the POTUS, without the help of crony capitalism. I, by the way admire her policy as well as her skillsets and look forward to the day I can work to help her become president.
Report Post »bankerpapaw
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:42pmFolks, by the time Washington wakes up, it will be too late. These Mooselums are like termites.
Report Post »Try to prevent instead of trying to repair the damage.
ChiefGeorge
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 9:24pmThey are against every man and every mans hand shall be against them.
Report Post »scout n ambush
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:41pmThese well educated people who thought the arab spring was so great should have been sent over there on a field trip.You would have to be stupid to think it was going to turn out great that or fake stupidity because you don’t want people to see you as a monster for your total agreement with the arab call to murder the jews .O said he wanted to see a seperate palestinian state in his first year as potus now he sees he has to be careful or he might lose his re-election .
Report Post »hillbillyinny
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 10:18pm@ mrbutcher
Hey “Butch”! You are either very stupid or a complete imbecile!
If you have been watching the news (even the MSM) you will have seen Dems/Libs/ and Progressives (d/l/p’s), praising the “Arab Spring”! I don’t think these people are “no one.”
It is the John Birch Society, not “John Bircher. . .” and Glenn, as I recall, never used the term, however, he was accused by several d/l/p’s of being a “Bircher.”
If you state that the Middle East being a “powder keg” is and “understatement,” you are saying that you believe that it is much, much worse, and that it will blow up at any time, maybe as drastically as a nuclear bomb. Why not look words up before you use them!
Finally, “waiting and seeing” is not a solution when someone is threatening you in, their own words as recorded on video! The best defense is a good offense, so let’s GET THEM, now!
Maxists, communists and Muslim leaders aligning, are you saying this is NOT happening? Where are you getting your information? Watch the news! Now they are even talking about how they are using each other. Califate–existed in the past and Muslim leaders have stated as reported in the U.S. press and on Al-Jazerra, that they do want to return to at least a Califate in the Middle East, ultimately to be global when they take us over!
Your paragraph on “hyperbolic” MAKES NO SENSE! You put down a bunch of words, do not know how to spell them, and do not know how to string a sentence to
Report Post »MrButcher
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:40pmBeck was not criticized for merely expressing “continual concerns that the tidal wave of change might bring deeply troublesome outcomes.”
He was criticized for HOW he made those objections. The John Bircher Society was evoked as I recall and that wasn’t far off.
Global Caliphates and International Marxists joining forces to drain those precious bodily fluids from America…that type of stuff. Oh, and they all want to kill the Jews, too. And Islam is the devil’s religion. blah blah blah.
Nobody has just sat back and said, “Oh, the Arab Spring is just fine and dandy. Yay for democracy. Tra la la la la.”
What has been expressed, in considerably less hyberbolic terms than Mr. Beck, is uncertainity as to how this is going to play out. Which is, essentially, the same thing Beck is and has said only minus all the religious crap, gold pandering and craziness.
No one knows what the middle east will look like in a month muchless in a day.
To call it a powder keg is an understatment.
All we can do is wait and see…
Report Post »American Resistance
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 9:03pmOnly a blind man could be presented with a spade , be shown it’s a spade, and still deny it’s existence. The ignorant will always resist the evidence, then when disaster strikes will then cry how did this happen,how could this happen here. This has been the case for the last 10 thousand years and still they deny refusing the lessons of history. Good Luck with that.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 9:09pmQuoteth the Crapper
The Muslim Brotherhood is a secular organization.
Hillary the Wise
Al-Jazerra is a valuable and objective news organization
Report Post »Airgun
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 9:21pmWhat you, and a lot of others continue to ignore are the connections between the architects and planners who helped organize and launch the “Arab spring”; including the former CEO and co-founder of Google, as well as Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dorne, (the list is impressive in length) and others in the Obama administration. (As well as Spooky Dude).
Report Post »All these connections were laid out and verified IN THEIR OWN WORDS on Glenn’s show just after the major protests began, with these players in global politics chortling about how they helped overthrow a dictator, and how wonderful democracy on the march was.
Useful idiots all, the Muslem Brotherhood threw all of them under the bus as soon as Mubarek was ousted, and none of them were invited back to help organize the new “democracy”.
Lefty progressives CAUSED this issue, and all the finger pointing by people like yourself will not change that fact, nor will it help when the enemies of Israel attack in force and start the next war in the region.
Airgun
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 9:23pmI’m not providing any links or bothering to prove my statements, you never listen anyway.
Report Post »Do your own homework.
Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:40pmMr Obama, you and your administration allied with the Radical Islam forces, turned Egypt and Libya over to them and let the radical governments of Syria and Iran crush true uprisings for democracy, while throwing the land and people of Israel under the bus…all for the sake of political expediency.
Now you have sewn the harvest of the “Arab Spring” and as you have planned, they will soon seek to establish the Palestinian state along with the destruction of Israel and her people; and the harvest of fire, blood and upheval will soon sweep into Europe and eastward into Pacific Asia.
Then we shall face the American Winter.
Understand Mr Obama, you have sewn the wind for a harvest of chaos, and now the whirlwind is to come, in fury and fire against the American lands. As you deliberatly initiated it, any blood spilled from this point on will be judged upon your own hands and head.
You have sewn the wind, now the people of Israel, Europe and the United States have to reap the whirlwind for your criminal deeds.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 9:34pmA very discerning take on what is going on Mr Leopard. I could not agree MORE!
This president is not only turning things upside down at home but moving the chess pieces abroad and allowing our Rooks, Bishops and Knights be undermined to the point of weakness in the face of enormous and growing enemies. All that will be left are the Pawns (us) who will have to do the dirty work of defending a nation at home. It will be too late then. Americans will give each other up, no one will know what we stand for or even care to stand but only survive it. This is why knowing who and what we are is so important…..they do, they know who they are and what they fight for. We fight for gay rights and equal oppurtunity. This will not be enough when faced with ultimate extermination. People in this country had better wake up and understand they are facing a race war directed right at them and their own government is turning up the heat and allowing it to happen. America cannot be America without its historical record in tact, that record also resides in each man woman and child old enough to understand what our forefathers fought and died for in order to pass along to us. We took on the whole world in WWII a War we neither wanted nor started. In that victory much was gained and passed on to our generation. We have rode that wave for a mighty long time but now I fear the people have forgotten too much of their history to be proud of who we are…We are Freedom loving American
Report Post »LKYPRL
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 12:58amWonderful post Snow! I hope you don’t mind but I posted your comment on FB. Gave you credit of course! If only everyone understood what is going on as you obviously do.
Report Post »Steve
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 2:36amhere here Snow!
Report Post »dogday
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 3:15amSnowLeopard–I always enjoy your posts! Very insightful and well said!
Report Post »BO_Bill
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:38pmNo one, not even Nostradamus or the New York Times, could have predicted that the fall of Arab strongmen would lead to intertribal warfare instead of the establishment of a Jeffersonian Representative Republic.
This is unbelievable.
Someone call Hillary.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:48pmWonderful mastery of sardonic humor there.
Yet it is true in one regard, the apologetic, socialistic, radical President we have with his constant need to belittle America, and tear apart our allies, while supporting the extremists of Islam and the terrorist allies they share, could only lead to the whirlwind of fire, blood and war coming about in the Middle East and eventually to the United States and Europe.
With Pres Carter, there was only major chaos caused; now with Mr Obama, we are facing radical shifts in the global political scene along with economic collaspe and a outside chance for a true and full scale regional war; or even a beginning to the next World War.
Report Post »clockwatcher
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:37pmWake up America the muslim does not know what it is to be free. They will never be free as long as they follow that violent religion of peace. They want to and will kill us unless we fight back. That will never happen untill the black jimmy carter is defeated. The jews may finally be waking up if you saw the election in NY special election. Vote republican at save our nation.
Report Post »Steve
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 3:32amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm-GBMUqRU8
Report Post »KSherrell
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:36pmIt’s not that Glenn Beck was right, the Holy Bible already said this was going to happen. You can know too if you would read your Bible. We ARE living in the times of the return of Jesus Christ for the church, which will set off a series of the events called “The seven years of trials and tribulation”. If you are not saved, I IMPLORE you to search your heart and ask forgiveness of your sins, and ask Jesus to come into your heart and life. Time IS short.
Report Post »ChiefGeorge
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 9:43pmAmen Sherrell,
The Jews were brought back not only from utter annihilation but a nation was formed in our time as prophecied. OT.
Her enemies then in the last days would gather the nations around her to destroy her. OT/REV.
Men would become loveless, haters, whoremongers, Warmongers, lovers of self, drunkards, brother against brother, father against son, mother against daughter etc NT.
There would in that day begin the birth pangs of Wars and rumors of Wars, nation against nation, famines, floods, pestilences, earthquakes all at the same time. NT.
A banner would be raised in the south proclaiming Israel as a friend… South Sudan new nation 2011. OT.
Untold riches hidden in Israel OT. Gas deposits and shale oil discovered 2011.
The last of the 12 tribes returns to Israel. 2011.
Then they will divide you up and take plunder of Jerusalem and trod the city under foot. Flee to the mountains. OT/NT.
Its all happening folks. The stage has been set, the players are all ready. America will nowhere to be seen as we will have fallen. Israel and God will carry the day and the salvation will be the Lords so his might will be proclaimed to all the world. She cannot be defeated. This same promise is not made to us.
Report Post »neverending
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 11:58pmAmen and amen to all of that.
Report Post »Race
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:30pm“but we are constrained by budget and to some extent constrained by political obstacles,” Secretary Clinton said to the Times.
Buying off bad guys hasn’t worked in the past, Hillary. What could possibly make you think it’d work now? I‘m glad we don’t have money to give to these guys, we indirectly fund enough terrorism as it is.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:27pmDuh. Anyone with half a brain could have forecast where the Arab Spring was headed ( no disrespect to Glenn intended). It’s the fact that the MSM is so totally Left-minded ! They just love “rebels” and they hate “authority. Anyone with a little age remembers the NYT, etc. all aglow in preasie of the “handsome, ” young guerilla rebel, Fidel, who overthrew that “nasty/rich/fat cat” ( sound familiar??) Cuban leader Batista ! Oooops, turned out handsome, young Fidel was a Communist ( that was still a bad word back then ! ) . Today the MSM has drifted even farther Left than in the 60′s and still loves and supports “rebels. ” Unfortunately, the MSM hasn’t vetted these Arab Spring rebels any more than they had previously vetted the current president ! Thus, we have a president who can issue executive orders, evade congress, demean the Supreme Court, and be totally unchecked by a MSM which shares this Far Left agenda. The current MSM has worked hard to earn the label “ Lame Stream Media”…..
Report Post »bdwatcher
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:26pmMy friends, again I say to prepare There will be much to come in the future. Sometime next summer I ask for all to be ready. I have 6 months food, installing a hand pump on my property. I can do without electricity, but not water. Think of what can be done with a computer virus. It is already known that China is infiltrating our computer networks here, including our military and homeland security. It is already known that the Iranian nuclear power software was subverted, putting them months behind what they considered progress. It is already known that just a switch in the wrong input in the power grid will take down part of it. Obummer knows….. never let a crisis go to waste. I certainly hope I am wrong, and if I am.. (smile) i won’t have to buy vegies for a while.. haha. but if I am not wrong… So much is going on, ?Class division, Racial division, riots in europe, flash mobs and white beat downs in parts of the US, along with no foreign policy.. The administration is certainly quiet about all of this, too quiet, even if it promotes class division. The DEBT WALL will be hit sometime next summer.. that is the point the US will no longer be able to borrow. The feds will have to print billions of dollars, interest rates will go up, go to http://www.debtwall.org. Stranges things are happening, none of them as loudly as now. Be prepared, do not be caught without. You know first thing to happen if there is a crisis, the grocery stores will empty.
Report Post »scoter
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:24pmDame right Obama And Clinton. Knew .I wish Clinton And Obama would just go the hell a way.
Report Post »AirtechJr
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:22pmWow..NEWSFLASH.. Once again Glenn was right. So interesting how the liberal politicians & MSM act as if they are surprised and shocked that this is happening.
Report Post »VAWhiteFighter
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:15pmThe Israelis ought to decapitate the snake who goes by Director of Sudanese Ministry of International Cooperation Ahmad Malek Ahmad. Might as well get on with it Israel, it’s coming.
Report Post »WILLIAM E.
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:15pmThe current adminisration knows exactly what they are doing. Make everyone dependant on the government.
Report Post »Bill in Texas
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 3:21pmYup
Report Post »nibiru
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:10pmI have nothing against Israel, but there is no solution to this problem. They are smack in the middle of Arab countries who hate them. Now granted this hated is mostly ginned up by the leaders of these countries. What we need to do is give the Jews Florida and the Arabs can kill each other.
Report Post »barber2
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:34pmThere is wisdom in your words! Especially about the Arabs/Sunni/Shiites “killing one another.” What I mean by this is that there seems to be a dysfunctional gene in these people which calls the males to need to destroy/kill anyone/thing different from themselves. Am sure if there were no Jews near by, they would be killing one another – of, course after they killed the Christians, the Kurds, the……whatever! ( ” if it’s different – destroy it! )
Report Post »Your Name Here
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:43pmWe’ll keep Florida thank you very much.
Report Post »Give the Jews New York City. They’re already there in large numbers.
The whole point if the matter is that the middle east is on fire and it is the politicians and financiers that lit the fuse.
vennoye
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 11:30pmOf course there is a solution to this problem…..we’ve known the solution before the problem was even solidified. The US has ridden the back of this tiger since…wasn’t it 1941 that we had the first agreement with Saudi Arabia. The only thing we have done is make things worse, spend tons of money, lost credibility with the Arabs and the Israelis.
Report Post »This problem ultimately will not be fixed by human hands, but it will be fixed…….am beginning to think it will be fixed in my lifetime. Whatever the oh-so-smart UN decides to do, Israel’s land will belong to Israel….just not fun watching it get there.
Secessionista
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:08pmOf course our state department is upset, they have lost control. Problem is, is that they are not supposed to be in control of other countries in the first place.
Get our troops out of the middle east NOW.
Israel has nuclear weapons, I *think* they can take care of themselves, lol! After Mecca, Medina, and Tehran are glass, if Israel still needs our help, we can talk about it.
Report Post »fatjack
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:07pmIt looks as if “someone” deliberately knocked ole Humpty Dumpty of the shelve.
Report Post »texanpatriot
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:04pmThere is a reason that there is a coming showdown between God’s special People, the sons of Issac, and the sons of Ishmael. If you are unaware of the coming war then you must read and learn.
Report Post »There is no mystery to this. Come Lord Jesus…
Maxim Crux
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:15pmYep
Report Post »IowaWoman
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:32pmthe sons of Issac, and the sons of Ishmael is what started the battle and it has not stopped since. Only God can stop this battle.
Report Post »libertydoc
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 12:25amAmen
Report Post »Mort
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 10:30amDoes anyone on here believe that the muslim in the white house will actually veto the the very thing he has been working for? If he knows he will not be re-elected, what is to stop him from his legacy? A two state solution based on the pre 67 boundries. Unfortunately for him, he does not believe the Bible, and that my friends, I expect that he will write off his election, and allow the new state. I think he has already worked out the deal, but is publicly saying he is working against it. we’ll see soon.
Report Post »IntransigentMind
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:00pmYep, planning to spring it on Israel:
Report Post »http://markamerica.com/2011/09/17/putting-us-over-a-barrel-of-oil/
http://markamerica.com/2011/09/14/obama-administration-forsaking-israel/
Exrepublisheep
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 7:56pmPalestinians SHOULD have their own state. Puts them all together into one convenient spot.
Report Post »fatjack
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:11pmLike my ole friend Hank use to say, Just when I think you’ve said the stupidest thing ever, you keep talkin’
Report Post »I.Gaspar
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:14pmYeah. Maybe they should all move to Sudan.
Report Post »ArabChristian
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:15pmYeah, kind of like what the Nazis did in Poland to the Jews a few years back. You’d love to see them wiped out in some kind of Final Solution to the Arab Question. I hope you aren’t serious….
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:19pmSo if the Palestinians have a label of state they’ll all be in the same place? I don‘t think they need a ’state‘ label to be in one place they’ll be in one place no matter what you call it.
Report Post »chipmunk
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 9:54pmI agree. In one convenient spot called HE11.
Report Post »truthseekerusa
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 7:55pmBeck was exactly right in his predictions about the Arab Spring. So if he knew, how come Obama and Clinton thought it was so wonderful? Stupid or crafty?
Report Post »kentuckypatriot
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:00pmyou can’t fix stupid… that’s my vote!
Report Post »IntransigentMind
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:03pmMore like “Crappy”
Report Post »randy
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:13pmObama and clinton knew exactly what would happen, don’t let either of them fool you, it is going right by the book for them
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 8:22pmrandy,
Report Post »That’s what people need to come to realize. I haven’t even chosen a favorite candidate for the primaries yet but Herman Cain is the only candidate so far who has actually came out and said 0bama was doing all this on purpose.
ashestoashes
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 9:45pm.TRYTHSEEKER…Crafty
Report Post »MinorityRightsAdvocate
Posted on September 18, 2011 at 10:03pmGood point about Herman Cain, I’m coming to like him more and more as well. It is on purpose! This is the kind of think that the likes of J. Wright and other associates of Obama dreamed about, and now it happens by stupidity? NO WAY, it is on purpose. The stupid is those that refuse to even consider this possibility.
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