NYC TV Report: Mosque Investor Was Terror Contributor
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WNYW-TV: Fox 5 News reported Thursday that one of the financial backers of the Islamic mosque and cultural center project in Lower Manhattan once contributed to a terror group, although the investor says the contribution was made because he thought he was giving money to a harmless charity.




















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dearbornite
Posted on September 10, 2010 at 12:50ampretty much every where you go, gas stations are owned by Arabs. I’ve priced em, pretty damn expensive. I don’t know any that are in some ”big job”, makin’ ”big money” to BUY one, yet, somehow just so darn many do….how is that? And profits! Whoa! People SAY ”oh they only make a few cents a gallon” BS. When I was a kid, even teen, owners made a few cents a gallon profit–and NO ONE WAS BUILDING million dollar homes that owned gas stations! My ex bf owned several—he sold AT COST many times b/c he made so much money on the inside items–had a mercedes and even a cesna–but he also OWNED 10 stations ((and still no million dollar home)) yet these guys with ONE station are livin large and it AIN’T on credit. anyone wanna use transparency and find out WHAT it is? you don’t wanna know!
Report Post »FoxRules
Posted on September 5, 2010 at 11:37amRemember the White House and all the educate institutions want us to believe it’s a “Peaceful Religion.”
Wonderful if Hitler was Amish?
Report Post »JeffW65
Posted on September 4, 2010 at 10:33pmI honestly wish I knew some non-radical Muslims that I could sit down and have an honest reasonable discussion with. I would like to get an honest feel for what they think about the mosque and other things. I don‘t know any Muslims radical or otherwise so I guess that’s out. Are there any reading this that might have some insight as to what they feel and believe about these issues?
Report Post »VagyokC4
Posted on September 4, 2010 at 12:11pmCan a good Muslim be A good American?
This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years.
The following is his reply:
Theologically – no. . . . Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon God of Arabia .
Religiously – no.. . . Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah Except Islam (Quran, 2:256)(Koran)
Scripturally – no. . . Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.
Geographically – no . Because his allegiance is to Mecca , to which he Turns in prayer five times a day.
Socially – no. . . Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make Friends with Christians or Jews.
Politically – no.. . . Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual Leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America , The great Satan.
Domestically – no. .. . Because he is instructed to marry four Women and Beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34 )
Intellectually – no. . Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
Philosophically – no. . . . Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran does Not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot Co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Spiritually – no.. . . Because when we declare ‘one nation under God,‘ The Christian’s God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to As Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran’s 99 Excellent names.
Therefore, after much study and deliberation…. Perhaps we should be Very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. – - – They obviously Cannot be both ‘good’ Muslims and good Americans. Call it what you wish it’s still the truth. You had better believe it. The more who understand
This, the better it will be for our country and our future.
The religious war is bigger than we know or understand. …. dating back farther than we care to realize!
Report Post »jadabischoff
Posted on September 4, 2010 at 6:28amokay here go’s., what i think i know about muslems. starting around 650ad, the post mohahad period,, islam spread its doctrine through the middle eat, north africa, and into europe and asia as a CONQUEST to spread the new islamic religion BY FORCE OF ARMS. without provocation, they invaded and established what came to be known as the OTTOMIN EMPIRE. remember when CRISTIAN constantinople became ISTOMBUL the ottoman empire finally collapsed, oh, was it 1940′s? after WW2 and isreal became a state, isnt this when ALL muslum terrorism rea[ly took off? and has been gaining strength AND financing ever since. ? lets not pretend that LOCERBIE never happened, or that iran didnt declare holy war on the west back in the ‘80’s with the embasey take over thatkept a coule hundred hostages for 400 plus days. you see people, this didnt JUST start with 9/11. THAT atrocity was the LAST FRIGGIN STRAW!!!!!!!!! now we gotta play nicey-nicey in the sand box because obamas got a commie/ muslum for an old man….. where am i goin wrong here?????/ HELP ME PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »rush
Posted on September 4, 2010 at 1:15amThat video shows citizens of france praying to their god on the street. Sounds like christmas music during christmas.
The interpretation is where most of the fun is. Disregarding the simple interpretation of the need for bigger mosque to fit more people, the guy making the video prefers his wacky idea that they’re trying to show power..
The problem in france (and i’ve lived in paris for years and witnessed it myself) is that muslims are becoming more VISIBLE. they’re not just the maid or the construction worker or the cab driver with a strange sounding name. It’s an actual citizen with his own unique contribution to the collective culture. And so they’d rather muslims HIDE their identity, because it‘s different and it’s not “normal”.
America on the other hand was built on diversity. It’s the melting pot. whether you’re in manhatten, or new orleans or san fransisco or san diego, you see, hear and breath different cultures, that have kept their essence for years or centuries in this country. They’re part of the US story and always will be.
Report Post »vrcohanim
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 8:09pmif you did not see this, and if you did, see it again!
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vrcohanim
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 8:06pmtoo much talk, just feast your eyes on this!
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2010/August/Islamization-of-Paris-a-Warning-to-the-West/
mjbeejr
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 7:38pmCan somebody here please clear something up for me? Are these really the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad? Is this the kind of hate that is taught in the mosques? Does it sound like anything Jesus taught when he walked the Earth? How do you bridge a gap this wide?
Muhammad is God’s apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. Quran 48:29, “Victory,”
God’s curse be upon the infidels! Evil is that for which they have bartered away their souls. To deny God’s own revelation, grudging that He should reveal His bounty to whom He chooses from among His servants! They have incurred God’s most inexorable wrath. An ignominious punishment awaits the unbelievers. Quran 2:89-2:90, “The Cow,”"
“Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends.” (Surah 5:51)
I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads, strike off the very tips of their fingers.Quran 8:12, “The Spoils,”
Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it.” (Surah 2:216)
Anyone who thinks we can appease people who have been indoctrinated with such extreme teachings is living in Fantasy Land! Please, tell me I’ve been wiki-punked!
Report Post »rush
Posted on September 4, 2010 at 1:25amAll you have to do is read the old testament to understand.
Both Judaism and Islam have a far greater sense of justice and just war than christianity. But they all do.
Most of the quotes yo’re grabbing from the koran (or from other supposed to be truth-revealing websites) are taking out of context.
In islam (as in judaism) you are allowed to fight against people who attack you, your family, and your community. It‘s what everybody calls a ’Just War’. You are not allowed however to attack or kill anybody who’s innocent. In fact in the koran you find the same teaching as in the old testament: he who kills one innocent life is like he killed the whole humanity, and he who saves one innocent life is like he saved the whole humanity. These are muslim laws that they have to abide by.
Report Post »Stavy
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 3:47pmCan you imagine the outcry we would here from the Left in this Country if Bush built a huge Christian Church in downtown Bagdad? How long do you think it would take for it to be blown to bits? How many peaceful Muslims would be turned into Radicals if we did that to them? Why is it so hard for the Left in this Country see that this is beyond inflammatory and is ripping apart the Christians and Muslims communities who need to come together to fight Radical Islam.
Personally I don’t care who is funding this Mosque. It’s a known fact that Muslims build Mosques in honor to Allah for giving them victory over their enemy. That’s exactly what this is. Thats how they will view it even if the left is to stupid to see it. Radical Muslims will be dancing in the streets after it is built the same way they danced when the towers fell. It was a great victory for them. It will be a new Mecca for Radicals to visit and pay homage to before they go and blow up the next American target. It adds insult to injury and that’s why I’m opposed to it.
Report Post »sodizzy
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 2:40pmI like that!! Power to prosper. Yes, indeed.
Report Post »AO1
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 10:41amour ancestors would kick our butts if they knew this kind of stuff was happening right now
Report Post »rush
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 12:01pmI agree.. this is the same kind of persecution they ran away from in europe, and jews had to suffer under during the hitler years.
Report Post »Kster
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 5:09pm@Rush
“I agree.. this is the same kind of persecution they ran away from in europe, and jews had to suffer under during the hitler years.”
What history where you taught? This is not the same thing AT ALL. There will never be a law that says a mosque can’t be built at ground zero nor should there ever be. There will also never be a law that says a strip club can’t be built next to the mosque. But we both know that building the strip club next to the mosque isn’t the right thing to do. There doesn’t have to be a law that tells our hearts and our minds that… we already already know. The people who building this should know now is not the time. It’s really not.
Report Post »rush
Posted on September 4, 2010 at 12:59amYou’re acting as if all you hear from the Park51 project opponents is the “insensitive” argument. But read through the same comments here and everywhere else, and in the rallies and on TV debates and the message becomes very clear: “islam is an evil religion, muslims are here to control our life and take over, we should get rid of them and their religion”
How is that different than what happened to the jews in germany? in the beginning it’s the phobia and the random violence, then few politicians take advantage of it to ride to higher status eating off people’s fear and ignorance, and then actual physical mass persecution starts.
Report Post »rcole02
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 9:02amI wouldn’t convict this guy based on his donation to an org that he thought was helping people like him. If there’s proof he knew it was sponsoring terrorism, let’s see it. I don’t see it here.
Report Post »DGroundhog
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 8:58amA contribution to a terror group is a contribution to a terror group. The ‘I thought it was an orphanage’ excuse is pretty lame. That’s like donating to the KKK and saying you thought it was AAA (didn’t Byrd use that excuse?)
The timing is also significant – as the EgyptAir 990 flight seems to have inspired his contribution. That is significant given the controversy surrounding that crash (US says intentional by co-pilot, Egypt says mechanical error). Egyptians took the US findings to be offensive (although they do seem quite a bit more plausible).
Report Post »SiY11
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 7:54amI must say this video clip proves nothing, Just that the guy gave money in 1999 from the sounds of it and the group was busted in 2001. I have given money to groups and known little about them except their mission statement, I am sure this guy did the same. I am not defending him just saying let us not go down the path of the liberals and do this kind of thing.
Report Post »dizzyinthedark
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 6:16amWAKE UP AMERICA! Islam is an ideology NOT a religion. They use the word ‘religion’ as sheep’s clothing. Knowing we are tolerant to all religions is it any wonder they use it as their shield to move forward their agenda? Great game plan they have!
Report Post »rush
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 8:57amevery religion is an ideology. And Islam, Judaism and Christianity, being all Abrahamic religions, with pretty much the same view of the world, its creation, the after life etc, should be equally spooky to you then.
Report Post »livefortruth
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 11:36amAh………for one thing Christians don’t strap bombs on themselves and blow people up or do the honor killings and that kind of SPOOKY crap. So you want to try and say that Christianity is spooky! Sorry but go spew your tales somewhere else. Pack your mosque up and go home.
Report Post »rush
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 11:58amYou’re kidding? you think muslims invented terror as warfare tactic?? wow you give them too much credit.
Just take a look at any revolutionary movement since the dawn of time. And if you want christian examples: KKK, Templars, Irish Catholics, French revolution, American revolution, European resistance during WWII, etc
Obviously terrorism has been a winning tactic or else the US wouldn’t have financed a boat load of terrorist groups all over the globe against enemy governments.
As far as honor killing, I think yo’re mixing customs and religion.
Report Post »WISEPENNY
Posted on September 8, 2010 at 5:02pmPretty much the same view don’t cut it, Rush. Muslims stop just short of believing that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God. You can do all the “good works” you can muster in a lifetime, but when you leave the “Lamb of God” out of your beliefs, your afterlife will be a huge suprise indeed!
Report Post »DanniDee
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 6:06amRush sounds like another non-thinking leftist liberal…
Report Post »duane38637
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 5:59amjust vote in nov please
Think of it as ACORN reborn, with a slice of Jihad on the side.
On August 31, this coming Tuesday, the Muslim Brotherhood-associated “Coordinating Council of Muslim Organizations” (CCMO) will bring 25-30 Muslim leaders of 20 national Muslim groups to attend a special workshop presented by the White House and U.S. Government agencies (Agriculture, Education, Homeland Security, Health and Human Services etc.) to provide the groups “funding, government assistance and resources.” The workshop will apparently provide special access for these Muslim Brotherhood organizations: the organizers pledge to provide “direct access” and “cut through red tape.” Government and Muslim groups will hold an Iftar dinner (breaking the fast of Ramadan) after the workshop.
The event was announced in an email newsletter sent August 27 by the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation terrorism finance trial, long associated with the Muslim Brotherhood, the global Islamist network (great backgrounder here from Hudson Institute). Here are three key paragraphs from the email (the entire article on the August 31 event from the ISNA email is pasted below this post as reference):
This year, a phenomenal next step has been made where government iftars become coupled with workshops to provide resources and benefit the Muslim community. The US Department of Agriculture (DOA) and the Coordinating Council of Muslim Organizations (CCMO) have paired the first of such events, scheduled for August 31, 2010.
…Leaders from Muslim organizations around the nation, particularly social service organizations, are invited to a workshop with representatives from the DOA, Faith Based and Neighborhood Partnerships, Health and Human Services, the White House, Department of Education, the Department of Homeland Security, and more. Twenty five to thirty Muslim leaders representing 20 Muslim organizations are expected to attend the workshop.
According to a representative of CCMO, this workshop is designed to clarify how Muslim nonprofits, mosques, Islamic centers, and social service organizations can strengthen their communities through more direct access to opportunities provided to social service agencies at the Federal level. “It will hopefully help cut through some of the red tape and shine light on the many opportunities for funding, government assistance, and resources that we just don’t know about at the local level,” said Elsanousi.
The Problem: Your Money, redistributed to the Muslim Brotherhood
This workshop constitutes an abdication of their professional responsibility by all government participants – and a taxpayer-funded government stimulus program for the attending Muslim Brotherhood-associated groups. The Muslim Brotherhood, founded in 1928, is a global Islamist political movement dedicated to imposing Shariah law on all nations and institutions. Their credo is “Allah is our objective. The Prophet is our leader. Qur’an is our law. Jihad is our way. Dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope.”
Why do we think some of these groups attending, possibly all, may be associated with the Muslim Brotherhood?
Because the sponsoring organization – the Coordinating Council of Muslim Organizations (CCMO), co-sponsoring with the Department of Agriculture – has a long history of associations with the Muslim Brotherhood. They also signed a 2009 American Muslim Task Force statement threatening to “suspend” relations with the FBI, because the FBI was investigating possible links to homegrown terrorism in mosques and other Muslim organizations.
Report Post »rush
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 8:10amCan you please enlighten us as to the these supposed associations between the CCMO and the Muslim Brotherhood?
Do they co-sponsor events? they invest in each other? they have an exchange program? what exactly?
Also before everybody else takes what you said seriously, and although most people here will dismiss research, the Muslim Brotherhood’s history and evolution is NOT as simple as you state. These were movements that came out of colonization of the middle east and north africa. They were able to recruit followers because of the atrocities and pillaging that was going on by the english and the french over there. Most of their groups were “resistance” groups that needed the support while fighting for their freedoms.
It’s so easy sometimes to simplify things as evil vs good, but most of the time it’s just irresponsible.
ericsoellner
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 3:13amoops another lib speaks out without listening to the whole story huh rush? moron
Report Post »akw
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 2:34amDid you even watch the video? The man donated to the Holy Land Foundation – a known front for the support of Hamas. Hamas is a terrorist organization. This is the man who put up the $4.8 million cash to buy the Burlington Coat Factory building.
Report Post »rush
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 1:40amWhy should any american muslim do or say anything about any terrorist group they’re not affiliated with? does any christian feel like they should speak up about armed militia groups that openly talk about armed revolution in this country?
And how do you associate someone like Dave Chappelle or Maz Jobrani (both hilarious muslim comedians) with Ben Laden and Hamas?
Terrorists (real ones) should be associated only with other terrorists and criminals like them. That’s the fair and balanced thing to do.
Report Post »rush
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 1:31amThis news post is pure sensationalist garbage. No context, no real facts and no rationality.
Did you know that if you donate money to organizations like the Red Cross, Doctors without Borders or UNICEF, you could be contributing to terror groups by this distorted logic? Many a times, these international NGOs help refugees, or children or innocent victims of war in the same areas controlled by Hamas, Hizbollah or even Iran!
Do you think that makes a person a terrorist sympathizer?
Let alone the fact that everybody uses the word ‘terrorist’ without actually defining what it means..
Report Post »aprilp
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 10:41amRush, once again you are looking for a legal reason for what is happening with the mosque. Since when does legality mean the same thing as what is Moral? It may be legal but it is not moral. Morality should be held above legality.l
Report Post »rush
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 11:38amOk. I agree that morality should be above legality.
So what is immoral about giving money to a charity that helped millions of refugees and victims of occupation? It almost seems a moral obligation to do so.
The other moral principle that makes this country so great is “innocent until proven guilty”. That’s not only for legal matters by the way. It should be applied every time we want to judge somebody’s actions. That’s how you build a highly moral society.
Report Post »ron the veteran
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 1:30amjust take a look at what they are doing to europe and england. they try to take over everywhere they go and settle. even a little cancer can kill you if you let it go long enough. remember their plan to see their flag flying over our capital building and white house. this mosque must not be built and we need to lay down rules they ned to follow. why is it ok to bring up islam in our schools but jesus is not. they want to be the domanant religion in the world. NOT HERE NOT EVER!
Report Post »rush
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 1:44amWhat rules do you want them to follow? So far the guys building the community center are following all the rules, and nobody can point to any actual wrongdoing.
Are you talking about rules that are not in our constitution or laws yet? can you apply the same rules to Mormons? I bet you Glenn Beck would disagree.
Report Post »Sniley
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 1:29amI think that’s the smoking gun that everyone feared would resinate if they followed the money. Regardless the mosque has to go somewhere else. We need to do this out of respect for the Americans we lost and the families of 9/11.
kb1200cc
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 2:51pmAmen Brother
Report Post »vrcohanim
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 8:04pmRUSH, FEAST YOUR EYES ON THIS.
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rush
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 1:23amThis is a great headline from ‘The Blaze’! No name for the “terror group”, no name for the “charity”, no context, no idea on what’s the guy contribution to either the charity or the mosque is.. Perfect sensational garbage, in the same way that Glenn Beck says the MSM fails journalism.
This is a disgrace to Glenn and his words.
On the other hand, let’s examine this idea of these donations that suddenly became a crime. Did you know that by donating to Unicef or even the Red Cross, you could be donating to terror groups. Since those organizations sometimes help children or refugees or injured people that live in an area under Hamas, Hizbollah or even Iran!
Does that mean you’re a terrorist sympathizer?
Report Post »sodizzy
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 4:23amget real
Report Post »Hellpig
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 4:47amdid you watch the video or just read the caption underneath?….yeah that’s what I thought…..Terror group HAMAS charity Holy Land foundation you know the ones indicted for giving donations to terrorists ….if you are going to troll in the big pond …come with some game…..NEXT!
Report Post »Hellpig
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 4:50amdid you watch the video ? or just read the headline and caption??? yeah that’s what i thought…
Hamas was the terrorist org…
HolyLand Foundation was the charity…
If you insist on trolling in the big pond …come with some game …..NEXT!
Report Post »DanniDee
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 5:50amYou sound like a typical non-thinking liberal fool.
Report Post »rush
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 7:54amHmm.. sure I‘m the moron who doesn’t think.
First of all, I said “Headline” not “The story in the video” was stupid. it says: “Mosque Investor was Terror Contributor”. Which is false according to the same video that all of you enlightened people watched.
The guy contributed less than $7000 to, according to the video, the largest islamic charity in the US back then, that collected money to help the palestinians. He did it in 1999, when the charity was not convicted and not publicly investigated. Obviously what he did was legit otherwise he’ll be in jail now.
Explain to me how is that contributing to terrorism??
In essence this story in NO STORY at all. Doesn’t mean anything for the guy, the mosque or anybody. So do you get now why the headline in ‘The Blaze’ was pure fear mongering one sided BS?
Report Post »SamAdams
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 10:26amDon’t you know that a headline is created to spark interest in the story and that the guts video had ALL the information that you needed? …and the info wasn’t produced by The Blaze?
Report Post »rush
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 11:45amThat’s a somewhat naive view of headlines and news editing in general.
A headline frames your mind about the subject, and also attracts people with inclination to a certain opinion, because humans love reaffirmation of their beliefs.
The small percentage of people that would use some critical thinking to dismiss a story like this one is almost irrelevant.
In days or months or years from now, people will be saying “there was a story in the news about one of the investor in the mosque contributing to terrorist organizations” and slowly the headline becomes the fact.
Report Post »Skandelon27
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 12:04pmRush, you remind me of the three monkey’s (see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil) because you are so blinded by your ideology you are not even willing to investigate people who might be trying to destroy us. You have your head in the sand buddy. Wake up and at least be willing to do an honest investigation into those who have ties to terror organizations. The real terrorists (whether this guy is one of them or not) are counting on people like you to shame, ridicule and label people into submission with the bully stick of “political correctness” and “religious tolerance”so that we all cover our eyes, close our ears and shut our mouths while they destroy us. You are the terrorist’s best ally.
Report Post »rush
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 12:49pmthere’s a trillion dollars spent in this country on defense sir. Between army, intelligence, and police department in charge of your safety. So nobody is closing their eyes when it comes down to terrorist criminal acts.
Being afraid and wanting to *wake up* because of americans building a place of worship is paranoia at best and strange phobia at worst. Neither are qualities of good Jesus-following christians.
Ask yourself, what would Jesus do?
Report Post »kb1200cc
Posted on September 3, 2010 at 2:43pmListen, allowing people to make decisions for themselves after reporting actual FACTS is called JOURNALISM.If those facts don`t fit your ideology, go back to reading the Huffington post and live in ignorance.
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