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NYPD Fires Hasidic Recruit For Refusing to Shave Beard

Hasidic Jew NYPD Recruit Fired For Refusing to Shave Beard

NYPD recruit Fishel Litzman, a Hasidic Jew, was fired Friday for refusing to shave his beard. (Photo courtesy of NY Daily News)

(The Blaze/AP) — Just weeks from becoming a New York City police officer, an Orthodox Jew said he has been booted from the police academy because he refused to shave his beard.

Former recruit Fishel Litzman of Monsey was fired Friday after multiple confrontations with the department over the length of his whiskers, he told the New York Daily News

NYPD rules usually require officers to be clean-shaven. The department makes exceptions for beards kept for religious purposes, but even then only allows 1 millimeter worth of growth.

Because Litzman is a Hasidic Jew, he believes that taking a blade to his scruff is forbidden by God.

“I don’t understand what the problem would be,” said Litzman.

NYPD spokesman Paul Browne said the department’s rules are reasonable and Litzman was aware of them when he signed up.

Litzman received his first citation for his scraggly beard in January. He was a mere month away from receiving his shield when he was fired.

Hasidic Jew NYPD Recruit Fired For Refusing to Shave Beard

NYPD Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly. (Source: nyc.gov)

“I always wanted to be a police officer,” said Litzman, a 38-year-old father of five who speaks Hebrew and Yiddish and was once a paramedic.

Litzman’s attorney argues the termination is the result of religious discrimination, The Daily News reports.

“They knew from when he took the exam and applied that he would not trim his beard,” his attorney Nathan Lewin said. Lewin has actually fought – and won – “beard battles” for observant Jews in the Army and Air Force.

“He said from the outset it was a matter of religious observance. He never made a secret of it,” the attorney added.

Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly ultimately approved the firing on Thursday, however, The Daily News sources say the move was planned several months before.

According to The New York Daily News :

Back in March, Litzman’s instructors recommended he be canned after he was disciplined repeatedly for failing “to maintain personal appearance,” sources said.

Litzman was cited the first time Jan. 27 for his unkempt beard. Then he was issued a command discipline from Jan. 30-Feb. 2 — all for failure to maintain his personal appearance.

While Litzman rocked the tests with scores of 99, 100 and 96, he also got written up for minor mistakes like being in the locker room too early and forgetting his gym gear, sources said.

In a March 18 memo to the NYPD, Litzman defended his performance and stated that “as an Orthodox Chasidic Jew it is absolutely forbidden in my religious beliefs to cut or trim my beard in any way.

“I am being disciplined only because I maintain my religious beliefs and observances,” he wrote, underlining the sentence.

The department hired its first Hasidic officer in 2006 and the force now has at least two dozen Orthodox Jewish officers.

Like observant Muslim and Sikh officers, Hasidic officers are allowed to keep their beards for religious reasons but must keep them neat and trimmed.

A source familiar with Litzman’s performance in the police academy called him a “great recruit” but argued that his beard presented a “potential safety issue.” Asked for an example, the source cited the type of masks that recruits wear during counterterrorism training. Seriously.

“You have to be clean shaven so the mask can fit,” the source told The Daily News. “If it doesn’t fit it can be a safety issue — and a liability issue.”

Despite his termination, Litzman says he will not compromise his faith.

“I will not waver in my firm belief that I can be a successful member of the NYPD and an Orthodox Chasidic Jew at the same time,” he wrote in a March 18 memo to the NYPD. “I believe that my love of [God] and my love of the NYPD can coexist.”

Manhattan Borough President Scott Stringer issued a statement Saturday saying he was “deeply troubled” by the firing.

“While the NYPD can exercise control over the personal appearance of its force in order to ensure that all officers are capable of performing their duties, they are also required to make a reasonable accommodation for religious beliefs,” Stringer said.

He urged the police commissioner to reconsider the case.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Comments (93)

  • LameLiberals
    Posted on June 9, 2012 at 11:44pm

    Religious Observations

    Jews and Muslims SEPARATE women inside their place of worship which means they treat women like 2nd class citizens. Not sure but I read somewhere that Mormons do to.

    Jews and Muslims do not eat pork.

    Jews and Muslims wear beards when very orthodox.

    Many Muslim women wear the burka. Muslims are polygamist. Catholic nuns wear a burka although it is not called that and every nun is married to their Catholic god so that makes god a polygamist. Do nuns wear wedding bands? It has been too long since I left a Catholic elementary school but I think they do. CREEPY

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    • Bryan B
      Posted on June 10, 2012 at 4:47am

      The biggest problem with all this giving into other countrys cultures and religions, is they don’t want to be Americans.

      Just look at Great Britain and France, or all over Europe for that matter. There are places in London, if your not a Muslim, your life is in danger, and the same with Paris. And this is how it started, first the rules changed, and then the rules became the law……

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on June 10, 2012 at 6:17am

      A burka covers most of your face. Nuns wear a chador although it is not called that.

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    • Bronco II
      Posted on June 10, 2012 at 8:05am

      I don‘t eat pork and I’m not Jewish or Muslim I’m Christian but I eat according to GODS WORD Leviticus chapter 11.It‘s not a sin but it’s not healthy.GOD created these bodies and knows what will make us sick.GOD created certain unclean animals for cleaning the earth they are scavangers they eat dead things and other stuff I wouldn’t want to think about and a pig has no sweat glans like dogs so what they eat YOU eat.So GOD laid out what He deems clean to eat and what is UNCLEAN to eat doesn’t mean they are bad they serve a purpose to cleans the earth so if you eat them are you going to just bury all the dead things like road kill and other stuff I doubt it so that is their purpose they have a job so let them do it and if they are gone who will then do their job?????

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    • zurie
      Posted on June 10, 2012 at 9:19am

      No Mormons, do not segrigate or treat women as second class citizens. In one of the tree hours at church we have a Preisthhood meeting and the women have a Relief Socisaty meeting. Also, the young men have a Young Men‘s meeting and the young women have a Young Women’s meeting.

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  • garbagecanlogic
    Posted on June 9, 2012 at 11:19pm

    I’m sure God said: “Do not shave your beard”. What a joke. If that is the case, he probably also said: “Do not brush your teeth”. Or: “Do not pick your boogers”. Get real, if you want to join something, read the rules first and if you cannot abide, THEN DON’T JOIN!!

    Praise Be To Obama. Psalm 109:8

    The U.S. Out Of The U.N.
    The U.N. Out Of The U.S.

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    • giopa2
      Posted on June 10, 2012 at 2:16am

      You go read Leviticus 19:27.

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    • Grasshopper42
      Posted on June 10, 2012 at 7:22am

      “We are not under (OT) law but under grace”. Read ALL of Romans chapter 6 to get the full context.

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  • ComingUnglued
    Posted on June 9, 2012 at 10:58pm

    I meant let let him put his time in and become an undercover detective. If you keep giving special treatment to women, minority and religious groups are police departments are becoming weaker.

    Let everyone have to meet the same requirements of the job. Physicals, psych exam, the only department that has never comprised their standards are the state police. Let them be our example

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  • LeadNotFollow
    Posted on June 9, 2012 at 10:56pm


    They fired the Jew for his beard, but they let Muslim officers wear towels on their heads.
    Citizens, it’s time to take a stand. We are merely months from Sharia Law. Everything is falling into place, just as Obama has planned.

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    • Skrewedretiree
      Posted on June 10, 2012 at 12:40am

      If this guy was a moo-slum, there would be no problem with his having a beard. They would not DARE to say no. But, since he is a Jew, and since the Regime supports islam and not Israel, then there is action to be taken.

      Remember in November!

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  • my67camaro
    Posted on June 9, 2012 at 10:55pm

    When he was hired, they knew about his religion…yes, they have a law stating that “one” can have a beard for religious reasons , but it needs to maintain a certain length so they didn’t press the issue, but HE knew what the law stated, knowing full well that he wasn’t going to trim it. He is like most, he wants something for nothing…. some will say, No he isn’t like that, then tell me why he did what he did knowing that this was going to be an issue where a lawyer would be involved….

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    • Skrewedretiree
      Posted on June 10, 2012 at 12:43am

      Well, moo’slums keep pushing the envelope, and the Regime keeps giving ground for them….same as they did in the past for women and blacks. Why not for the Jews?

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    • giopa2
      Posted on June 10, 2012 at 2:25am

      You didn’t bother to look at the pic. He kept his beard short and was doing his best to keep within regulations of God and Man. If he was flagrantly outside of regulations he wouldn’t have been able to start his acdemy training let alone have them take months to fire him.

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    • endthemindlessspending
      Posted on June 10, 2012 at 3:07am

      G10PA2

      He could have a beard 1mm in length when he showed up to the academy each day. Anything longer than that was a violation. They gave him warnings and he knew of the requirement before signing the contract. Also that picture was not taken at the academy so it doesn’t show what the problem was.

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  • ComingUnglued
    Posted on June 9, 2012 at 10:44pm

    The police department is a quasi military organization. Rules must be followed. If he thinks he can make such a good cop. Let him follow the rules up the ranks and become a detectiv where his beard will be an asset to his job.

    The departments cannot keep making special exceptions for people who think they are special. If everyone is special then no one is. Cut the. Beard, or the next time you see this individual his beard may be down to his navel. What‘s to say it can’t happen?

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    • Pendragon
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 10:58pm

      He should not have to cut the beard because it is against his faith 1 and 2 he told them up front it was worn for his faith and they agreed it was ok and hired him and then 3 he was exempliary in his duties and tests never below 96% and 4 they were racist like you and violated his race as well as his faith

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    • LAWDOGG
      Posted on June 10, 2012 at 12:01am

      If he wants this rule bent for him, what does that say about his future judgment as a police officer. I don’t trust him, or his belief system. If he believes he is above the system, then go be a politician.

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    • giopa2
      Posted on June 10, 2012 at 2:19am

      Hasidim serve in the Israeli army and they wear their beards short. You didn’t bother to look at the pic. His beard was very short.

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  • Ron Staiger
    Posted on June 9, 2012 at 10:16pm

    Too bad- it would be funny as hell the first time he has to put on a gas mask and can’t get a good seal

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  • Gregg Weber
    Posted on June 9, 2012 at 10:10pm

    Two points, one of which I saw another already made but I’ll write it again ’cause I like it.
    The department knew just as he did what he was. To say that he has to give in is not finding a common solution. I suspect that both sides thought that the other would give in and either allow him in with the beard or he quit the force.
    If they want someone with a certain language and cultural knowledge skill level then they either get civilian contract people or officers with that level.

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  • Lone Ranger
    Posted on June 9, 2012 at 10:06pm

    Didn’t they learn their lesson with the Sikhs?

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  • BOMUSTGO
    Posted on June 9, 2012 at 10:01pm

    If he was a Muslim, they would have promoted him.

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  • THXll38
    Posted on June 9, 2012 at 9:59pm

    Don’t be a cop . . . sell diamonds and jewelry.

    THXll38  
    • Pendragon
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 10:17pm

      THXLL38 You are a Racist like the majority of the Paulbots that troll here and a shame to the rest of honorable peole here believe in the constitution and hold it sacred

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    • THXll38
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 10:27pm

      Shut your trap tool. I am not a racist . . . jut pointing out a stereo type fool.

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  • Psychosis
    Posted on June 9, 2012 at 9:30pm

    AS A FIREFIGHTER he is in the wrong

    his refusal to be clean shaven will put him and his fellow firefighters at risk

    the oxygen masks firefighters wear MUST be airtight so as not to allow smoke and fumes to get in. this is a REQUIREMENT

    if he doesnt want to do it, he could join the ranks of the firepolice ………….local rejects that cant but still insist on clinging on to the “fireman label”

    if he was on my fireteam i would refuse to work with him as i would not only have to do my job, but i would also have to carry his dumb a$$ out of a fire do to his stupidity and smoke inhalation

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    • Pendragon
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 9:39pm

      Gee does anyone read?? He was a Police officer which the dept knew before hiring he would have the beard kept in hasidic style and they hired him anyway How racist are you people

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    • Al J Zira
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 11:23pm

      @Pendragon: A little quick with the racist comment, aren’t we? I didn‘t read anything in Psychosis’ statement that was racist. Seems to me you have an axe to grind regardless of a statement or topic.

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    • Rob in Katy
      Posted on June 11, 2012 at 10:07am

      How racist is he to feel that he should be given a pass on the rules that whites have to follow – fool.

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  • affinity
    Posted on June 9, 2012 at 9:30pm

    NYPD firing a Jew OMG. Have any of you liberal Jews figured out that all of the Anti-Christian atheist organizations you financed are going to come after you next. You better wake up and stop supporting your enemies. Jews literally finance New York City and this is how they treat you..

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    • LAWDOGG
      Posted on June 10, 2012 at 12:19am

      The Rothschilds and Rockefellers are Jewish? Now THAT I didn’t know. *sarc

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  • sawbuck
    Posted on June 9, 2012 at 9:28pm

    Huh.. Go figure…a Jew wanting to be a Lowly Police Officer…

    Surely his PEOPLE could have made this happen…Without incident..!

    But I thought the JEWS rule the world ..?? Well that’s what I keep hearing anyway…

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  • Dale
    Posted on June 9, 2012 at 9:22pm

    “I don’t understand what the problem would be,” said Litzman. Just perhaps, you CANNOT follow orders!

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    • sawbuck
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 9:34pm

      Make allowances for ALL…OR..

      Make allowances for NONE..!!

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  • mhojai
    Posted on June 9, 2012 at 9:14pm

    This is a crock! Typical liberal BS-the standards are clear, they pretend to agree, then throw a tantrum claim to be a victim, and demand everyone concede to their “rights.“ This ”pc” tolerance is corrosive and insidious. Just one more erosion of values. (Why is it that “they” never have to be “tolerant” of others?)
    This society will have to take a stand someday. I hope it’s soon!

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  • firemanfrank
    Posted on June 9, 2012 at 9:12pm

    I bet he did this without even wanting the job. Lawyers will eat this up. They should keep him and let everyone wear a beard if they want. Oh and assign him to the busy areas like the hung ho recruits want to be placed.

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    • Pendragon
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 9:31pm

      How Racist can you be??? If you read the whole thing he made it a point to let them know he had the beard for honoring his faith and the tenaments within it…That said The NYPD Knew up Front and still hired him there for they broke the rules they acomodated at the Hiring level…The Trainers disreguarded what the agreement was with the Hiring HR so now Fireman Frank you have proven you are a racist Just like the Rest of the Paul Bots

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    • G-WHIZ
      Posted on June 10, 2012 at 11:23am

      Just send him to the next toxic fire….he puts on his gassmask…and presto, he’s out of the force…dead……”next?”.

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  • HorseCrazy
    Posted on June 9, 2012 at 9:09pm

    anyone else fed up with the amount of rules laws and regs at every level of life? school work driving etc? I am sick of it. if his name was hussein mohamad or any other muslim name he would be allowed the beard. I am pretty fed up with this garbage

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    • DesertRose1960
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 9:23pm

      Try reading the article. Muslim and Sikhs are allowed to keep their beards at 1 millimeter in length. He was asked to comply with the same rules as Muslims, Sikhs, and other Orthodox Jews. He chose not to comply. And to remind people, Sikhs were just given permission in NYC to wear turbans on duty, something the UK has allowed for over 40 years.

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    • sawbuck
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 9:50pm

      Desert Rose…
      So know you are splitting hairs.. Muslims have no problem with having NO hair
      on their face if it suits them…

      Apparently having a beard or facial hair at all for Muslims is NOT carved in stone…

      the Quran must have some grey area when it comes to hair on their face…

      Just ask the …..“Fort Hood Shooter”…..!

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  • oriondma05
    Posted on June 9, 2012 at 9:05pm

    Wasn‘t a police force looking to allow Indian Sihk’s to wear their tradtional turban on duty? Not sure which one.

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    • oriondma05
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 9:30pm

      And I agree with the police though. If they have standards, keep the standards. But there was a police force willing to let Sihk’s wear their turban headress.

      Want to work in America? Follow our rules.

      Or you can git out.

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    • resme
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 9:45pm

      I’m pretty sure that was in canada, I may be mistaken. Correct me if i’m wrong.

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    • DesertRose1960
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 9:47pm

      So, you’re okay with religious persecution and discrimination? There are lots of Muslims, Sikhs, and Orthodox Jews who have been born in American for generations. They have every right to practice their religion just like the Amish or the fringy Fundamentalists who insist on long skirts for their females and don’t allow dancing. And even if someone isn’t born here, their children may be, which makes them Americans, too.

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    • oriondma05
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 9:57pm

      Rules are rules. If ACME company says these are the rules our employees must abide by, then yes.

      Abercrombie came under fire because a girl wanted to work there but wear a headdress. It may affect their business and they could lose money.

      Abercrombie didn’t go into business to meet that girls needs, they went into business to sell clothes.

      Now if the police were going to develop racial divisions that would work in ethnic area, then that would be another story.

      But we’re “all one nation”, now aren’t we?

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    • Bryan B
      Posted on June 10, 2012 at 4:23am

      @oriondma05

      You asked: “Wasn‘t a police force looking to allow Indian their tradtional turban on duty? Not sure which one.”

      The answer is D.C.Metro Police Department allow Sihk’s to wear turbans on duty, and have beards. And it’s very unsafe, I’ve seen some very mean drunks, that have shredded a uniform shirt. Now the drunks and the addicts will have a new target. I guess they are going to find out the hard way……

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  • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
    Posted on June 9, 2012 at 9:00pm

    Don’t like the rules, don’t volunteer to do the job regardless of your religion. The rules are not some archaic regimen for enforcing discipline and presenting a clean, efficient face to the public. Rather, the rules are based on fire safety: When a firefighter charges into a burning building, the only thing that gives him a decent chance of getting the job done and coming out alive is the mask that supplies uncontaminated air from a tank rather than the poisonous smoke he must wade through.

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    • Pendragon
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 9:35pm

      I am just amazed at the Racists I have come across Read the whole interview He told them upfront he would be keeping the beard on religious ground and they Hired him so they are not following the rules they accomodated him in…They broke the law and constitution but of course you could care less about the paper that protects your rights to worship…

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    • resme
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 9:44pm

      Are you a anti-semite now, time2end?

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 11:30pm

      I will concede the point that when I read the story I had it my mind (even though it SAID Police) I was responding along the lines of what might be expected of a Firefighter and the wearing of respirators on a continual basis as per the specific job requirements.

      Law Enforcement Officers also have a requirement (like the Military) to wear protective masks and even respirators on occasion in performance of their duties. I’m still looking at this as a safety issue based on the length of the beard in question as per the information provided in the story and pic.

      I am in the… “there is a very good reason for some safety rules” side of the equation (even when I was in the Military) that a slippery slope occurs when you allow even one person with a particular religious belief/affiliation to have exceptions made for them (Sikhs for example) in an effort to be “all inclusive”. Yes, maybe you can do some things to accommodate certain religious beliefs, but like same sex marriage… where does it end?

      RESME. Me an anti-Semite? Lol…. you go with that if it makes you feel better about me ragging on many a Ron Paul acolyte and the anti-Semitism displayed here on The Blaze on a regular basis.

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    • resme
      Posted on June 10, 2012 at 3:32am

      I’m just going with the mainstream narrative. Mentioning the word “jew” gets you deemed anti-semite.

      But in all seriousness, I love you, Pops.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on June 10, 2012 at 1:14pm

      PENDRAGON. Btw, you stated “….amazed at the Racists I have come across…”

      I’m about as far from being a racist, bigot OR ant-Semite as you can get. You need to follow me more on here and get a bigger picture. In relation to this topic, I’m looking at it from a safety, managerial and realistic standpoint. If he doesn’t want to coform to the original standards he signed up for, I could care if he’s a White/Black/Bown, Catholic, cross-dressing little-person with a disability…

      RESME. Pops? No… that’s Ron Paul. He’s got some years on me. I could probably still out-run him while he’s speeding along on his Pee Wee Herman bicycle. Ha!

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  • giopa2
    Posted on June 9, 2012 at 8:56pm

    The commandment is “Thou shalt not cut the corners of your beard.” The Hassidim take this commandment quite literally and seriously. This article lumped a prior Hassid hire with Orthodox Jews and I don’t know about that Hassid but Orthodox Jews have a range of observance on this matter – I note Joe Lieberman is clean shaven. The article did not bother to mention whether the same standard on the Hassid they hired was imposed or whether that Hassid decided that in order to save a life a religeous restriction may be loosened. In the picture Litzman does not look scruffy or unkempt and his beard is short. Given that they issue gas masks to the whole population in Israel where there would be quite of few people with beards I would think the NYPD would manage to find one that would fit. So I think the NYPD is being quite selective in applying its “standard”. Maybe they don’t want Hassidim in their police force. Maybe the NYPD are a bunch of Cossacks who enjoy having Jews robbed, beaten, and killed like in the Crown Heights Riots.

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  • Chromo200
    Posted on June 9, 2012 at 8:44pm

    I thought Muslims and Sikhs could keep their head gear and beards.

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    • HorseCrazy
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 9:06pm

      you read my mind. lets see if this was a muslim he would have been promoted etc with no issue but jew? nope.

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  • TommyGuns
    Posted on June 9, 2012 at 8:39pm

    He took the job knowing what the grooming standards are. There are other orthodox Jewish officers on the force who, presumably, are meeting the grooming standards. So puzzle me this: Is he much more religious than the others, i.e., they are violating their religious beliefs, or does he now want them to just change their policies to accommodate his beliefs. The key is that he knew the standards when he first joined. If he was not prepared to meet them, case closed. Get a different job that allows you to practice your religion the way you believe it should be practiced.

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    • Pendragon
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 9:38pm

      Again they hired him knowing he would be keeping the beard and said it was ok…Not him breaking rules as they hired him knowing up front what he required and they said OK I am again amazed at the Racists

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    • Pendragon
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 9:43pm

      If he did not compomise the Law of G-d for the Law of Man which the Police Dept Knew up front and said ok we are going to hire you… Maybe the Others compromised and he had integrity to stand his ground in his faith…They could have easily placed him in a hasidic community and built an amazing bridge to curb crime there

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  • hersey10
    Posted on June 9, 2012 at 8:38pm

    If his first name was Muhammed the beard would stay .

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  • Reeferman
    Posted on June 9, 2012 at 8:25pm

    Would they do that to a Muslim?

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    • RightUnite
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 8:33pm

      Ah, highly doubtful…

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    • Sayyadina
      Posted on June 9, 2012 at 9:05pm

      Most of the involvement that the NYPD has in regards to the Islamic Community is in ignoring jurisdictional boundaries in conducting surveillance of them. I somehow doubt that they would cut a Muslim recruit any more slack then they have Mr. Litzman.

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