NYT: CIA Director Based Mubarak Congressional Testimony on Media Reports
- Posted on February 11, 2011 at 9:59am by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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The news for the Obama administration keeps getting worse. Or, more accurately, embarrassing.
After National Intelligence Director James Clapper erroneously said the Muslim Brotherhood was a “secular” organization, it‘s now been revealed that CIA Director Leon Panetta’s testimony in front of Congress that Mubarak’s resignation was a “strong likelihood” was based not on intelligence but rather media reports.
The New York Times explains:
Mr. Obama watched Mr. Mubarak’s speech on board Air Force One, returning from a trip to Michigan, the press secretary, Robert Gibbs, said. As soon as he arrived at the White House, Mr. Obama huddled with his national security aides. The administration appeared as taken aback by Mr. Mubarak’s speech as the crowds in Tahrir Square. The director of the Central Intelligence Agency, Leon E. Panetta, testified before the House of Representatives on Thursday morning that there was a “strong likelihood” that Mr. Mubarak would step down by the end of the day.
American officials said Mr. Panetta was basing his statement not on secret intelligence but on media broadcasts, which began circulating before he sat down before the House Intelligence Committee. But a senior administration official said Mr. Obama had also expected that Egypt was on the cusp of dramatic change. Speaking at Northern Michigan University in Marquette, he said, “We are witnessing history unfold,” adding, “America will do everything we can to support an orderly and genuine transition to democracy.” [Emphasis added]
“Wait, what? The head of the CIA was giving information to congress that he was getting from the ‘teevee’? Hmmm…I could have done that,” writes Colby Hall over at Mediaite.
But according to the Wall Street Journal, the White House is just as much as fault for using the media to guide its message, as evidenced by its surprise when Mubarak did not step down:
All day, as rumors swirled Mr. Mubarak would step down, administration officials struggled to understand what was happening, and even U.S. intelligence officials appeared baffled at one point. At a Capitol Hill hearing, Leon Panetta, director of the Central Intelligence Agency, told lawmakers there was “a strong likelihood that Mubarak may step down this evening.”
Mr. Panetta clarified later in the hearing that the CIA had received reports that Mr. Mubarak would “possibly” resign but said he saw a transition scenario under which Mr. Mubarak would shift powers to Mr. Suleiman, something closer to what appears to have happened.
A senior intelligence official defended Mr. Panetta, saying he was referring to press reports in his comments rather than to CIA intelligence reports.
“The agency has been tracking developments very closely, and there were very real and rapidly unfolding changes over the course of the day in what has been—by any measure—an extremely fluid situation,” the official said. “That’s the nature of the intelligence business.”
After Mr. Mubarak’s speech, the White House was consumed with a sense of “disbelief,” one U.S. official said. [Emphasis added]
The administration’s disarray is also evident by looking at the two foreign policy philosophies present within the White House. MSNBC‘s Lawrence O’Donnell pointed that out during a segment last night:
Tonight as the protesters in Tahrir Square demand revolutionary change from their government, another argument is taking place inside the Obama administration as it struggles with its message on Egypt. In one camp, say some reports, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Defense Decretary Robert Gates are turned — concerned with regional stable and are pushing for a process led by Egypt’s Vice President, Omar Suleiman. In the other camp, younger voices from Obama’s presidential campaign including national security council staff members Ben Rhodes and Samantha Power have been arguing that Mubarak’s regime is finished and it’s time to fully support the protesters. Rhodes wrote President Obama’s “a new beginning,” that called for democratic reforms in the Arab world.
Power, who was in the running for cabinet position before she was let go for making derogatory remarks about Hillary Clinton during the 2008 campaign, is a staunch interventionist. Her book, “A Problem From Hell: American in the Age of Genocide,” advocates for American involvement in foreign conflicts that involve human suffering.
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Comments (148)
mcpbob
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:21amsums up his presidency….. embarrasing…..
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:37amMan this isn‘t embarring it’s idiotic and unprofssional it’s a DG shame. Obama has turned our intelligence agencies into a laughing stock by putting his supporters in power instead of actual qualified individuals.
Report Post »BuckRussell
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:21amI guess I’m not surprised by the lack of understanding within the administration, but shocked that the NYT may have printed negative truths about them!
Report Post »kreese
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:21amNot only is Obama ruining the economy, but people are going to get killed—not only in other parts of the world, but here in America.
As a senior citizen, I’ve seen these Leftists see the world through rose-colored glasses for too many years.
For those that still say, “it can’t happen in America”—-the hell it can’t. Look around you–it is happening. Obama and the rest of these inept fools need to go!
Report Post »etetetet
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:21amThe BEST source I have found, that consistently provides facts and related hyperlinks to facts is “The Heritage Foundation”. Blazers, if you’re not on their daily distribution list for updated stories presented with facts, I highly recommend you do so.
Report Post »The Heritage Foundation [morningbell@heritage.org]
roxee
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:20amI know it is like day 10 of the Administration is in contempt of court, over Obammy Care,yet, they just spew day in and day out as if they can just continue with status quo with that Nightmare bill.. I agree to Impeach them. We, need to go to the square ,and shake our shoes at them!!!
Report Post »brntout
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:53amTo a muslim ,throwing a shoe at a person is the lowest form of flattery.I say throw them not shake them!
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:20amIf I was the Saudi king ,after watching the Obama bus roll over Mubarak, I would be on the phone to China and Russia cutting a deal and telling the U.S. to bugger off.
Report Post »david3755
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:19amNo surprise here. You put a political hack in a critical job to defend the country and instead of relying on experts in the field and relations with other countries intelligence agencies he gets his information from a has been newspaper full of left wing morons. Maybe we have no more relations with other intelligence agencies around the world because no one will trust the US after seeing what we have done to allies. Come on 2012, we have a lot of damage control to get done.
Report Post »Lotus503
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:16amStupid is as stupid does.
Report Post »Rogue
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:15amI don’t often use the acronym “WTF”, but that suits this entire administration to a tee. It’s like putting a drunken monkey in charge of flying the space shuttle. I’m honestly surprised we have made it through two years of this nonsense and ignorance on all fronts.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:25amActually,monkeys at least have experience flying spacecraft. More than you can say for Obama.
Report Post »Its Gonna Getcha
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:15amSo that is their definition of “the facts”? Well then, it may be a small step for them to “invest” in our country by laying our tax dollars at the roulette wheel. I mean, it takes the exact same energy.
Report Post »tropicgirl
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:13am“”CAIRO, Aug 20, 2009 (IPS) – The spectre of a U.S. nuclear umbrella for the Middle East haunted the U.S.- Egyptian summit this week. In the run-up to President Hosni Mubarak’s first Washington visit in five years, both the Egyptian leader and his senior aides categorically rejected an undeclared U.S. offer to guarantee defence of the region against atomic weapons as part of a comprehensive Middle East peace plan.”"
With so much information about how Mubarak rejected this nuclear option, just before the protests, it is clear to me that this is an attempted coup, BY Israel and the US. Notwithstanding the economic unrest in Egypt, as real as it is, this is how the people were duped into supporting the coup.
The US hopes that their chosen substitute Suleman, will be accepted, AND that Suleman will play ball, in the nuclear way, with Israel and the US. That still remains to be seen. The people also rejected the nuclear option. There is a lot more info on this “falling out” on the internet now.
The US is willing to risk total meltdown in Egypt in order to put in another puppet, that will take us one step closer to a nuclear war in the Middle East. Like Sadam Hussein, and before him, Pakistan, who refused to give up their nukes.
Nice little snow job, eh? This is the story that is emerging and I think this is the closest to the truth that I have heard. Its not to say that the people are wrong at all. But when mobs rule, you never know who is in the shadows. The Muslim Brotherhood is the ever-present Muslim boogeyman, who the US is more than happy to use to install their new puppet. Also playing with fire.
Report Post »Puddle Duck
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 11:19amYou really should lay off the “fringe” weekend chemical binges …it’s bad for your health and kills brain cells.
Report Post »matt708
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:13ama bynch id idiots that don’t know their @asses from a hole in the ground
Report Post »TheMarine
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:12amMedia = Intelligence ?
http://www.KevinWebb22.com
Report Post »FED-UP-AND-READY-TO-TAKE-ACTION
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:12amCan anyone just call it what it is. People in power and positions who are NOT FIT or QUALIFIED to run the counrty……..dam shame we look like a bunch of &*%#$@,
Report Post »brntout
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:11amAn implosion and melltdown coming to your area!
Report Post »troyvar
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:11amOur intelligence under this administration seems to be on existent.
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:11am.
Report Post »The Obama administration is like a dog humping the leg of life, and getting no where……..
grandmaof5
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:11amSpeaking of Hillary…..have they locked her in a closet somewhere because she has been awfully quiet in the last few days. I wish the Obama administration would defend what is happening in AZ as vigilantly as it is defending the numbskulls speaking on his behalf. Is there anyone in this administration who knows what they are doing? Afterall, they are supposed to be the ones with all the intelligence, we are just a bunch of dummies.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:45amGRANDMA, the one reason Obama and his cronies are fighting AZ so hard and so fast is that we have the audacity to actually stand with others against him. We are having a fight for the life of each of the states of the union vs the dominance of the federal government.
The ‘fundamental transformation’ that America was warned of by Obama is happening; not the way Obama wants it to happen, the people of America are taking the nation back, and the progressives are reaching so far out on the branch they are about to collapse to the ground, and hard at that.
I love being able to listen to the Glenn Beck show via the internet, and do other work at the same time as his radio show broadcasts.
Report Post »grandmaof5
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:58amMe too, on Extreme, but something is funky with my sound and it is irritating. I will be glad when #1 son gets home so he can fix it. Am so glad you have a new computer and you don’t have to leave your apartment. I am proud of AZ because if they succeed then it will open the door for the rest of the border states to fight back. Too bad they haven’t joined AZ already like states gathered with FL over healthcare. Safety in numbers.
Report Post »Woman
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:10amBlithering idiots.
Report Post »Total Lame Arse
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:09amWhy would I be surprised that another of Obummer’s staff is totally unqualified for the post? There are patterns to the way folks do things, and we have clearly seen for years that Chicago corruption (reward your friends and punish your enemies) is all BO knows. He won’t go to bat for this nation at all, because he’s not a leader. He sees his team as the usurpers and are only concerned with holding their power. That mindset is not concerned with foreign affairs; foreign affairs are an *interruption* to his agenda of making a new nation with traditional America no part of it.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:15amUnqualified does not begin to do it justice within my own book. Criminal negligence and other charges would be a fine beginning.
Report Post »HippoNips
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:09amYes, I said this before. Obama’s team is so bad , it doesn’t know what has happened let alone what is happening.
Report Post »They get their “facts” from the headlines and waits around till everyone else figures things out.
Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:08amWhy should this not come as any suprise to anyone nowdays. The administration depends on such sorces as SNL and MSNBC for their daily misperceptions of the world about them. NO one should be suprised if the next move is a massive ‘overhaul and fundamental changes’ being made to the various intelligence services and consolidation into one massive new department under the ruling of the Homeland Security Secretary.
It will then be in position to be directed fully upon the American people, and most likely will see the absorption of the FBI as well (for homeland security purposes); also the military could be the next to come under the Homeland Security as well based on “Military force serves as a deterence (defense) against needed hostilities.”
Unlikely I will admit, yet may occur.
Report Post »TonyDarrington
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 2:34pmHe certainly didn’t base his assessment on anything he read on the Blaze. And i mean that from a content perspective. Becks crack team of researchers could have given panetta a good intelligence repotr, but they can’t seem to produce any original content for this site.
I thought we could be ok if obama surrounded himself with capable people in the critical defense/ intelligence posts. I am scared as hell now. Some things, like how sausage is made, are better left unknown.
Report Post »SUNBURST
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:08amThis man is a nimrod.
Report Post »THIS right here is a perfect example of just how screwed we are with all of the Stepford-appointees that this president has in place.
What a disgrace to this man’s integrity.
Ironmaan
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:30amHis incompetance is leaving us all open to the destruction that they intend to cause. I see congressional hearings in the future that will investigate what our intelligence didn‘t know and why the didn’t know it.
Report Post »http://guerillatics.com
Brad Wesselmann
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:35amPerhaps, he is just as arrogant and is building a Tower of Babel for us all to be punished with him. I don’t know, but it sure does seem ironic if nothing else.
Report Post »NickDeringer
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:06amSmart power.
Report Post »Hobo Boondocks
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:41amAbsolutely clueless directors-direct cluelessly.
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:50amDid anyone ask Clapper if Al Qaeda is a terrorist organisation or just an educational group for women’s rights ?
Report Post »sts514
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:50pmClapper (DNI) and Panetta (CIA) are the equivalent of having two men in a permanant irreversable COMA running the U.S. National Intelligence and Central Intelligence Agencies. How absolutely pathetic beyond description. This is the new normal for this ‘administration.’
Report Post »dcwu
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:06amImpeach.
Report Post »cnsrvtvj
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:07amI’m with you DCWU. That was just another idiotic statement by Clapper. Who could forget his interview with Diane Sawyer? He was just as clueless about the Muslim Brotherhood as he was about the arrests that had been made in London that the rest of the world was aware of. As for Leon Panetta’s relying on the media, is he serious? Very scary if he is.
http://www.donsmithshow.com – see the Muslim Brotherhood video
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:12amI am beginning to see parts of a larger picture here concerning the Homeland Security and the lack of intelligence within the intelligence communities. My own post covers it in more detail farther down the article.
We need to be ready.
Report Post »leftiesaredangerous
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:14amAnd the hits just keep on commin’.
Report Post »Muslim in Chief
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:16amYou have to love it thou. The ones who were screaming about Bush getting bad intel at anytime are curiously silent on this.
I can’t wait to see how MiddleclassDouche answers this
Is it 2012 yet?
Report Post »felina g
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:21amI`m just thankful Obama doesn`t dye his hair and that he has quit smoking for a year.
Report Post »FED-UP-AND-READY-TO-TAKE-ACTION
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:21amThey act as little children not having any real knowledge or understanding of what to do and how to do it, but hey, we got the 1st administration in our history that everyone wanted…………wait, not everyone, only those who vote based on color, self gain, self interest and not giving a dam about the welfare of the country……………….VICTORY OR DEATH
Report Post »exdem
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:21amYes impeach! They are a bunch of stumbling ameteurs too invested in their own ridiculous ideaology instead of governing our nation. I hope we survive 2 more years of these inept idiots and vote them out. We should be rioting in the streets demanding Obama stepdown. His whole cabinet is arrogant, ignorant and destructive to Americas well being.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:21am@CnsrvtvJ
I feel that his self annointed exellency Obama is just waiting to have any excuse to set the nation on fire over this kind of intel failures; he most likely will use it to clean the house of any and all who he sees as the foes of his administration – real or imagined.
@Grandmaof5 (when you read this)
Everything is fine here, and so is kitty and my mom. Getting very warm here for this time of year, lower 70s over the weekend; and love the new tea I have, wintermint with cinnamon and rose clover added into it. Once you get use to the taste of it at the first, it is very good.
Report Post »mattsanz
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:23amThree questions a free people need to ask themselves. 1) Is Govt evil ? “Government is force; like fire.” George Washington 2) Can… evil do good ? “Power always thinks… that it is doing God’s service when it is violating all his laws.” John Adams
Report Post »3) If evil attempts to do good, do you support it ? “United States of America does more good in the world than any other Nation” Republlicans..See More
Xcori8r
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:24amImpeach, arrest.. whatever. Just get those clueless incompetents out of there.
Report Post »Rock Knutne ND
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:27amWell, there ya go…
The Jenius of a community organizer!
“I know it must be true… ‘cuz I heard it on TV”
Report Post »Melvin Spittle
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:28amIf the CIA is this disconnected, we need congressional intervention now to replace these idiots as they have proved they are incompetent and have left our nation vulnerable.
Report Post »Melvin Spittle
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:30amAction NOW!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »Decade of Greed
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:33amIt just proves what I’ve been saying all along…This administration has no intelligence.
Report Post »libbsrnuts
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:51amRemeber how Bush supposedly LIED about WMD’s. Fastforward to yesterday, this must be true then: “Obama LIED about President Mubarak leaving office”. According to liberal logic, that must be the case!
Report Post »gramma b
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:51amHey. I watch the news. Can I be Director of the CIA?
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 10:53amThe state-controlled media, the intel agencies, effing Obama, they are all on the same page. We have been infiltrated to the very core, folks. Clinton and Gates have never been part of the Obama inner circle. They will be discarded as refuse when OUR revolution is complete.
Report Post »hud
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 11:03amThis White House’s theme song is “Send in the Clowns”, but their already there’
Report Post »hud
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 11:09amTo Granma—you’d be better than this clown. My sincere apology for denigrating clowns
Report Post »So
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 11:21amThis administration is busy being Don Quixote for “green” and spending money.
The shame of our nation is they are all a joke and a travesty.
2012. Stop the insanity.
Report Post »FED-UP-AND-READY-TO-TAKE-ACTION
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 11:27amWonder where the media is on this one. Let Palin say anything that they preceive as not being “worldly wise” and they call her incompedent and worse. But with Clapper and Panetta it’s a differnt story……….This is BS!
Report Post »exdem
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 11:40am@THOM@SSPAIN
Report Post »I enjoyed the Beck video link. He is so passionate in what he knows. Only1 man is reporting the truth and the effect it will have on our lives and thats Glenn Beck. Thanks for the link. Most of us have already seen it , but throughly enjoy seeing it again.
kryptonite
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 11:53amThe “sense of disbelief” is not because Obama was letting the media “guide his message.” Uh-uh. Obama has been secretly bombarding Mubarak and his military with threats to withdraw financial support if Mubarak refuses to step down. At the same time, his media is purposefully disseminating Mubarak’s demise as a fait accompli, using massive disinformation as a tactic to incite radical change. It has all backfired, and that is why the WH is baffled.
That insufferable megalomaniac wants to take credit for a “democratic” revolution in Egypt. It would finally confer prestige on his hollow Nobel Peace Prize and feed his starved delusions of grandeur. But now his world reputation is visibly starting to crack. I pray Mubarak keeps giving Obama the digitus impudicus.
Report Post »FED-UP-AND-READY-TO-TAKE-ACTION
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 11:57amExposeJos
Report Post »And you think GOD does not talk anymore?? For those who have an ear he is still talking and showing what is to come………….might want to get your head cleared so maybe you too could hear……
independentvoteril
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 12:05pmI can see anyone getting the stepping down part wrong everyone was thrown a curve on that however it does PROVE Obama Hasn’t been in touch with ANYONE of importance in Egypt or he would have had the facts…. I CAN’T understand the Muslim Brotherhood part.. all he had to do was go to a computer and google it and watch a few clips or check out their websites.. CLAPPER has to go.. and take the rest of the OBAMA administration WITH him..
Report Post »BMartin1776
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 12:26pmBase their info on the media! The same media that ignores the real stories like ones Beck has covered screaming “here are you mainstream media?” This is insane these people are out of their minds. The same media that covers what Lindsay Lohan is stealing this week or how many drugs Charlie Sheen did while “Rome” burns to the ground! Or are we talking about Madcow who got duped by a sarcastic story, or how about Jon Stewart is he where they get it from he is reliable, I mean cmon the guys brother Larry Leibowitz, is the chief operating officer of the New York Stock Exchange! (DID YOU KNOW THAT?)
Fire Panetta, fire Clapper get rid of them all… man the news gets freakier by the day. Its like a really bad movie or something. They are getting their news from the MSM who missed the entire Muslim Brotherhood angle which is now in play in Egypt. If they listened to Beck maybe they would have a clue!
Take back America though http://www.savingtherepublic.com
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 1:50pmCan’t impeach someone who is not legally holding office. I am asking for an investigation into the Lt. Col. Terry Lakin court martial. That just pure STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN!!
The pudative president and intel staff get their information from where? The LIBERAL MEDIA? That stinks, too!
Report Post »DisillusionedDaily
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 3:18pmThe CIA, NSA and other “intelligence” groups within the US government seem using the NBC, CBS, ABC and MSNBC to gather and interpret intelligence for the them. The seven dwarves working in concert with the Three Stooges could probably do a better job!
Report Post »2much
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 4:06pmImpeach and deport. He’s worthless as a leader.
Report Post »Melvin Spittle
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 5:43pmI am not surprised regarding our huge intelligence failure. How can you develop an intel analysis when all of your resources are pointed at our own people and not at the enemies outside our borders?
Report Post »crackerone
Posted on February 11, 2011 at 7:58pmThat picture of Ponetta? Wasn’t he the dad on Happy Days?
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