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Obama Administration Dumps Major Provision of Health Care Law

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Obama administration’s signature health overhaul law, under relentless assault by Republicans, has suffered its first major casualty – a long-term care insurance plan.

The program, expected to launch in 2012, had been dogged from the beginning by doubts over its financial solvency.

Proponents, including many groups that fought to pass the health care law, have vowed a vigorous effort to rescue the program, insisting that Congress gave the administration broad authority to make changes. Long-term care includes not only nursing homes, but such services as home health aides for disabled people.

“This is a victory for the American taxpayer and future generations,” said Sen. John Thune, R-S.D., spearheading opposition in the Senate. “The administration is finally admitting (the long-term care plan) is unsustainable and cannot be implemented.”

Known as CLASS, the Community Living Assistance Services and Supports program was a long-standing priority of the late Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass.

Although sponsored by the government, it was supposed to function as a self-sustaining voluntary insurance plan, open to working adults regardless of age or health. Workers would pay an affordable monthly premium during their careers and could collect a modest daily cash benefit of at least $50 if they became disabled later in life. The money could go for services at home or to help with nursing home bills.

But a central design flaw dogged CLASS. Unless large numbers of healthy people willingly sign up during their working years, soaring premiums driven by the needs of disabled beneficiaries would destabilize it, eventually requiring a taxpayer bailout.

After months insisting that could be fixed, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius finally acknowledged Friday she doesn’t see how.

“Despite our best analytical efforts, I do not see a viable path forward for CLASS implementation at this time,” Sebelius said in a letter to congressional leaders.

The law required the administration to certify that CLASS would remain financially solvent for 75 years before it could be put into place.

But officials said they discovered they could not make CLASS both affordable and financially solvent while keeping it a voluntary program open to virtually all workers, as the law also required.

Monthly premiums would have ranged from $235 to $391, even as high as $3,000 under some scenarios, the administration said. At those prices, healthy people were unlikely to sign up. Suggested changes aimed at discouraging enrollment by people in poor health could have opened the program to court challenges, officials said.

“If healthy purchasers are not attracted … then premiums will increase, which will make it even more unattractive to purchasers who could also obtain policies in the private market,” Kathy Greenlee, the lead official on CLASS, said in a memo to Sebelius. That “would cause the program to quickly collapse.”

That’s the same conclusion a top government expert reached in 2009. Nearly a year before the health care law passed, Richard Foster, head of long-range economic forecasts for Medicare, warned administration and congressional officials that CLASS would be unworkable. His warnings were disregarded, as President Barack Obama declared his support for adding the long-term care plan to his health care bill.

The demise of CLASS immediately touched off speculation about its impact on the federal budget. Although no premiums are likely to be collected, the program still counts as reducing the federal deficit by about $80 billion over the next 10 years. That’s because of a rule that would have required workers to pay in for at least five years before they could collect any benefits.

“The CLASS Act was a budget gimmick that might enhance the numbers on a Washington bureaucrat’s spreadsheet but was destined to fail in the real world,” said Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky.

Administration officials said Obama’s next budget would reflect the decision not to go forward. Even without CLASS premiums, they said the health care law will still reduce the deficit by more than $120 billion over 10 years.

Kennedy’s original idea was to give families some financial breathing room. Most families cannot afford to hire a home health aide for a frail elder, let alone pay nursing home bills. Care is usually provided by family members, often a spouse who may also have health problems.

“We’re disappointed that (Sebelius) has prematurely stated she does not see a path forward,” AARP, the seniors lobby, said in a statement. “The need for long-term care will only continue to grow.”

Sebelius said the administration wants to work with Congress and supporters of the program to find a solution. But in a polarized political climate, it appears unlikely that CLASS can be salvaged. Congressional Republicans remain committed to its repeal.

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  • Profx72
    Posted on October 15, 2011 at 9:20am

    They don’t see a way forward. Translation: Too many people have now READ the Bill and they can’t fool them anymore about what this BAD LAW is going to cost them. In my Humble yet outspoken Opinion, there is NOTHING in this Bill that is worth saving. I just don‘t understand why it hasn’t already been fast-tracked to the Supreme Court and put out of our misery already.
    http://www.maverickvoice.com

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    • McKenzie Davis
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 4:34pm

      That makes 1 For WE the People !!!!! About Time

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    • Dale
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 6:05pm

      @Profx72

      …Translation: Too many people have now READ the Bill and they can’t fool them anymore about what this BAD LAW is going to cost them.
      ————–
      That is except the congress critters still supporting it.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 8:51pm

      Exactly how did the Obama Administration kill this part of Obama’s Health Care Bill (that already passed in Congress and was signed into Law by Obama) without a Congressional Amendment to the Bill? Is this a new precedent being set by the White House? We don’t like “this part of a law” so now it’s gone? I’m confused.

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    • ICRedifURBlue
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 10:11pm

      “We’re disappointed that (Sebelius) has prematurely stated she does not see a path forward,” AARP, the seniors lobby, said in a statement. “The need for long-term care will only continue to grow.”

      Another reason to NOT join AARP…………

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  • psychokittis
    Posted on October 15, 2011 at 9:15am

    A couple of things that I have not seen discussed here in regards to the entire bill or any bill fot that matter.
    When she was Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi promised that any bill would be posted online three days before it would be voted on. She also promised a complete and open debate on any bill.
    These were promised so that we could see what was going on for ourselves.
    If you recall-in the runup to this nightmare being passed, she was asked if it was Constitutional. She didn’t answer either tas or no. She just said ” Are you kidding?” and the stuck her arrogant snotty nose in the air and stalked out of the room.
    When it came to the House floor for a vote, they didn’t even have the text available and no debate was allowed.Just an up or down vote. Great way to be open and honest. Time to get rid of the lot of them and start from scratch.
    Remember, if you want policy changes, you need people changes. No Demonrats, No Republicraps.
    But that’s just my opinion. What’s yours?

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    • commonsenseguy
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 9:28am

      and you believe the government would not lie,hell,they would lie to their own mothers if it would get them a vote and some money, yes she said that the bills would be posted but after she was taken to a secure location by the SS she quickly got in line and as since done what she was told, she was in no way going to give up her millions and her seat at the communist table, and remember obama promised no special interest groups, he was going to change how washington worked { he did do that ,his way or get out of the way } and he also promised to a crap load of other lies also,so never trust anything that a politician say,

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    • DonnaA
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 10:19am

      I totally agree!

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 10:53am

      Completely agree. The label on the candidate simply does not matter. What are the values, where is the focus, and does the candidate actually stand firm on the clear reading and intent of the United States Constitution. I don’t care if the candidate is a frigging Martian, as long as he or she passes the legitimate test to BE a candidate without hiding his or her history under presidential seals of anonymity, and that he or she fulfills the oath of office which is to SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.

      This health care law offends the Constitution in every part of it. People should be heralding this dumping of just one of its elements. If the Congress had any balls period, the thing would be today, DEAD.

      That it isn’t tells me all I need to know about those who have been elected. They are the same useless swill that replaced the former useless swill.

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    • knockered
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 12:08pm

      Obama sucks……

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 1:31pm

      @ knockered
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 12:08pm

      Obama sucks……
      ———————————————————————————————————–
      Well yes, yes he does, but he prefers guys like Soros and Frank Marshall Davis riding his rump.

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    • ropati
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 1:46pm

      @Commonsenseguy. Whenever you hear someone mention “crisis,” we’re in trouble, we’ve got a problem, this is not as we expected, just know that the government got caught in one of its endless stream of lies.

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    • TEXASGRANNY73
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 6:50pm

      We did start from scratch 2010. That is why Fanatic Nancy no longer holds the gavel. However it is extremely important to do it again. Need to check your state for Reps and Senate coming up.
      @Commonsenseguy Not trying to correct you but there is no way Fanatic Nancy fell in line for any SS. She was espousing this health care as early as 2006 if not earlier prepping the way for a Dem Pres to replace GWBush. (remember their hate Bush campaign). I know because as soon as she got that gavel I was writing her complaining.(you do know you can write the heads of both parties). And everything she and Dems did was behind closed doors with fixes in. This was a solid Democratic Congress and President stuck it to us. However we need to rid ourselves of Rinos and replace them as well. Sorry-not correcting just Nancy Pelosi and D. Wasserman Schultz talked down to the elderly (in Florida 2006) as if they were stupid and these two elitist rich women KNOW what is best.

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  • Zoe
    Posted on October 15, 2011 at 9:14am

    The amount of time energy & money spent a this agenda………..

    What a waste is a positive comment!

    Fire em all!

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  • Secessionista
    Posted on October 15, 2011 at 9:10am

    Liberals are bad with math.

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  • matinva
    Posted on October 15, 2011 at 9:08am

    We’ve been trying to tell these idiots this ever since they started shoving it down our throats. Just more concrete evidence as to how absolutely clueless this administration is beginning at the top.

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 9:19am

      The thing is though, I have wondered for some time about the Obama-care legislation, if it is in reality some kind of bigger smoke screen being used to create a health care crisis and more destruction in the economy…

      Think on this though, even in the face of the Supreme Court challenges they must have known would come against it, they still seem to be in supreme confidence of its success; especially if they can get one conservative justice to recuse themselves.

      And yet, given the continuous opposition to the wishes of the people and the authority soley invested in Congress, Obama has gone around them just as with the job bill defeat now going to his czars for implementation.

      Could they have been expecting the defeat of the Obama-care anyhow? And already have a second system being put into place to have a “solution” for the dictatorship Obama will most likely soon declare?

      I have felt for some time now that this Obama-care, aside from the bald face power grab it was; is also a foil, and a feint to try and keep something else waiting in the wings concealled.

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    • Cat
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 10:01am

      Snow:

      Tend to agree with you.
      There are too many other things going on around DC and the world that nips at the craw.

      Suspending voting here, for one thing

      Every day, more regulations are piled higher and higher here, but nothing is being done with overregulation in Europe, they’re simply tossing money at the issues and fighting to join Europe into one unit.

      Romney is being pushed for a reason.
      It’s time to pass the baton, and both parties are getting ready for the hand off.
      There are WAY too many closed door meetings here and in Europe.

      Remember the concept of Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD)?
      Bet the discussions are; what to do with the United States after Europe becomes the new USSR.

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  • TomFerrari
    Posted on October 15, 2011 at 9:03am

    I’ve got a GREAT IDEA on how we can all get rich quick!
    Sell extended warranties on cars, trucks, appliances, electronics, etc.
    To differentiate ourselves, & make sure EVERYONE buys ONLY from us,
    we will sell ours, EVEN AFTER the appliance breaks down or the truck’s engine blows up.
    That way, NOBODY will buy from our competitors!
    We will be BAZILLIONAIRES!!!
    I just need a nominal investment from some angels of oh, say, 3TRILLION dollars.
    Form a line, single file, please…
    Anyone? Hmm…

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    • DanWesson455
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 9:08am

      DING DONG! Long live the king! The King has no clothes! Look the King is naked!! Bare arsed O’Bumbum fumbles it again. Now for the rest of the C r a p…get it outta here.

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  • Finger Follie
    Posted on October 15, 2011 at 9:03am

    Why not just force us to participate in it like they do with everything else?

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  • TheFederalist
    Posted on October 15, 2011 at 8:34am

    Now they need to realize that the rest of the plan cannot be implemented and dump it. I`m betting on it that they will dump parts of the plan gradually before it gets to the Supreme Court. This way the Supremes will judge what is left of the plan and rule it constitutional. Especially if they drop the individual mandate, which they have`nt yet.
    Do you know there are a lot of other damning parts in the bill that have nothing to do with health care?
    Health care must be taken completely out of government control.

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    • commonsenseguy
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 9:09am

      it is all about control of the collective, not healthcare, all of those useful idiots who supported it will soon learn they will need 6 jobs to help pay for it because of hidden fees, and they will be shot or just thrown out when they can no longer produce for the good of the collective.

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    • demint.disciple
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 9:19am

      Why bother with the little stuff ? According to Allen West, if you’re not going to kill the whole thing why waste your time taking it apart piece by piece ? Besides, he likes a few parts of the bill so he voted in favor of that certain provision…

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    • pamela kay
      Posted on October 17, 2011 at 2:39am

      I am pretty sure that on pages 58 and 59 it states that the goverment will have the authority to take our HC payments directly from our bank accounts, checking, savings and investments? So I am guessing that does not include those on welfare but only on those of us that work or have retired from working?

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  • llotus
    Posted on October 15, 2011 at 8:30am

    They knew this going in. What else is in this thing? Nancy knows. 2000 plus pages? Pages of what? The healthcare bill is a joke on the American people. Lets see who laughs last. Lotus.

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  • Amy
    Posted on October 15, 2011 at 8:26am

    By using the search powers of Adobe Reader-search the entire health bill at one time for key words.

    By using this method I determined that HHS Secretary has unusual and nearly unlimited discretionary powers. I’m happy to know she has common sense to know the failures of the bill – and integrity enough to admit it. With all that power comes triumph or failure.

    Besides – the many fingers would be pointing at her eventually if she herself did not exercise that decision.

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    • M13
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 8:54am

      She knows the failure of the bill? If she knew the failure of the bill none of the bill would be forced upon the U.S. citizens.

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    • commonsenseguy
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 9:15am

      these idiots would not know what commonsense was if it slapped them in their communist heads. commonsense is not something you learn at 30 or 40,it is something you either have or you learn by failing,but these idiots don’t know the word failure ,they believe that everyone is a winner ,everyone gets a medal and a ribbon,no one can fail.

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    • Cat
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 10:17am

      Amy:

      Most of the elected in DC forget they work for the citizens of the United States.
      The appointed don’t care.
      For the elected, the nudges start as soon as the election is over.
      The alignment shift happens weeks before they pack, to go there.
      For the appointed, it never ends, they pass the power on.

      If you’ve ever been wealthy, or have power, this sort of thing happens on an hourly basis.
      Can’t tell you how many nut jobs come out of the woodwork wanting something.
      Some even have the balls to want what ever it is they’re asking for … for free.

      Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely (Lord Acton)
      Better pray for Rubio and those like him.

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  • baron94
    Posted on October 15, 2011 at 8:14am

    “Even without CLASS premiums, they said the healthcare law will still reduce the deficit by more than $120Billion over the years” That won’t even make a dent in the trillions they keep raising the debt ceiling by. The whole bill is insolvent and needs to be scrapped.

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  • raderby
    Posted on October 15, 2011 at 8:07am

    THEY ARE UP TO SOMETHING, AND YOU CAN BET IT HAS TO DO WITH STAYING IN POWER. And, warding off Supreme Court action against the failed and rotten HC “law”.

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    • proudpatriot77
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 8:28am

      You are absolutely right. This slimy and shady administration does NOTHING if it wont somehow benefit them. People need to keep any eye on this at all times.

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    • TomFerrari
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 9:05am

      You are both, “RIGHT ON THE MONEY” (pun intended!)

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on October 15, 2011 at 8:01am

    Whatever “seems” to be good, right or just by the current administration is just that ~~~ “seems” as in “You can bet this is covering some other plan and is deceptive”. The current administration are all from hell and follow their leader’s direction. Their leader is not of this world and he holds powerful sway over them.

    We are so grateful to our LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS THE CHRIST WHO taught us and to the HOLY SPIRIT WHICH enlightens us and WHO together keep us from the evil one.

    Thank YOU LORD that YOU have called us out to be YOURS in this world. Thank YOU for loving us enough. In YOUR name we sing and dance and rejoice, amen.

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  • commonsenseguy
    Posted on October 15, 2011 at 8:01am

    tell me this is not a communist agenda,the elderly work for the collective when they are young,but if they get hurt or get to old they are put out to pasture with out any financial help,it is up to their kids to help them out, but they don’t make enough to survive themselves, obma and his cronies or exempt from this monstrosity,they will get the best ,but the collective well just work until you die,welcome to communism 101, more hidden fees { taxes } and the freeloaders think it is free,

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  • Bill Burns
    Posted on October 15, 2011 at 8:01am

    Obama’s presidency failed because of multiple failed policies, endless broken promises, mind bending debt passed on to our children and grandchildren, insane borrowing, the disastrous ObamaCare bill, unprecedented racism, class warfare and polarization, and **DECEPTION**, false self serving projections and bogus “Obamath” at virtually every turn.

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  • SPOT_OF_TEA
    Posted on October 15, 2011 at 7:58am

    It figures….Pick out a part of the bill to drop in order to scare the elderly…These leftists will stoop to any level to achieve their goal…If the republicans were smart they would make no comment on this….remain focused on defeating Obamacare as a whole…any comments by republicans supporting this bogus expense cut will come back to haunt them…….unfortunately most republicans aren’t very smart….and its more unfortunate that its people like you and me who end up paying for the republicans stupidity.

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    • pamela kay
      Posted on October 17, 2011 at 2:56am

      How right you are , the AARP ads are running already.

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    • pamela kay
      Posted on October 17, 2011 at 3:05am

      I am not claiming the repubs are all stupid but they better stand up for the people that voted them in and remember that we can vote them out with some new conservative blood that will have the dedication to and wisdom to stand their ground and not cave in under pressure.

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  • TxMadMac
    Posted on October 15, 2011 at 7:58am

    Don’t approve anything that has anything to do with that bill ! It is as illegal as the illegal aliens ! Get it ! Stay outta those politicans bedrooms boys. That’s not what we sent you there for. We want the bill repealed period !!!

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  • watashbuddyfriend
    Posted on October 15, 2011 at 7:57am

    Ask Glenn Beck has said many times: “…watch the other hand….”

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  • Obama Been Lauding
    Posted on October 15, 2011 at 7:55am

    Soooo,
    As I understand it, Obamacare should be dissolved, because they said it was “All, or Nothing”!!!!
    The “Law” was enacted intact, now is the time for it to be brought back before Congress, and voted on again, because it no longer is as passed!!!!
    Repeal the whole thing, then Pelosi will have time to read the rest of it, and “See what is in it”!!!!!

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  • PFN
    Posted on October 15, 2011 at 7:53am

    One part down, the rest of the bill to go!

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  • loriann12
    Posted on October 15, 2011 at 7:52am

    Did you know that the health care plan clearly states that all “long term facilities” (nursing homes) would be government run? they also want to take over homes for the handicapped. I can’t site the line number, but I read about half the bill, enough to scare the bejesus out of me. That’s what got me into politics. I read about 2/3rds of the first one (that didn’t pass) and maybe a little less of the 2nd one (that didn’t pass) also. There was a plan that I don’t think made the final cut called something like take back your health act of 2009. It would have required all medicare recipients with chronic diseases to show marked improvement (by stats in 2 categories, which included waist measurements, quitting smoking, cholestoral levels, etc) of 10% in order to get paid for their treatment (or rather their doctors to get paid). They also had to attend something like 72 1-hour sessions (which could be given in groups) on how to eat healthy, etc. At the bottom it said it’s for Mecicare recipients, but they wanted all Americans to be subject to it. the chronic disorders? breast cancer, prostate cancer, diebeties, metabolic disorder, etc.

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    • patriot4ever
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 8:05am

      That’s why the long term care section was put in there…so they could drop it and blame it on someone else. It was never intended on being implemented because they have to rid the planet of people that they feel won’t benefit the collective.

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    • loriann12
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 8:18am

      The Take Back Your Health act of 2009 is what got me into this. If you don’t lower your numbers by 10% in 2 categories, your doctor doesn’t get paid. My uncle is a doctor, and I knew it would hurt him. Funny thing about that? My cousin (a staunch Obama supporter) got mad at me and said they would NEVER do such a thing as not pay her dad, and her dad wouldn‘t refuse help to medicare patients because the government didn’t pay him. Yea, right.

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    • louise
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 10:43am

      LORIANN12,
      This reminds me of the zero population growth crowd. And If I recall correctly, Kissinger called those who could not “produce” anything (work) “useless eaters.”
      This is what a health care system looks like when run by a socialist/fascist/communist type of government. If a person is handicapped or chronically ill, or elderly and cannot work, they are like useless eaters of resources for the rest of society.
      This mindset has been around for a very long time. It is just recycled with new words. The underlying thought is the same though and pure evil.

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    • pamela kay
      Posted on October 17, 2011 at 2:52am

      Which also means they can dictate who will live according to their chart based on your age, medications, estimated lifespan,costs,and how much you will contribute to society. Comforting huh? Didn’t they also plan to develope a new type of Hospice? I assume for those of us they decide should be dead sooner than later. They don’t believe in God, they want to be God.

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  • Polwatcher
    Posted on October 15, 2011 at 7:49am

    Obummer’s way to balance the budget is to get rid of the elderly. If this don’t get them, the death panels surely will.

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    • loriann12
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 8:29am

      My dad, now 79.5, had prostate cancer about a year and a half ago. He was always Democrat until this administration, and now he’s an independent. But, his doctor just wanted to “watch” his cancer for 10 years. My mom (a licensed practical nurse) had to fight for treatment. When she was telling me about it, I could hear my dad in the background yelling, “There ARE death panels!” All Obama is doing is alienating the older population.

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 11:07am

      @loriann12

      ” All Obama is doing is alienating the older population. ”
      I think to some degree that’s true.

      But his health care plan has always had major support from organizations like AARP (their members are a huge voting block). Have you seen some of their latest commercials? They can dress it up but it’s nothing more than scare tactics.

      And I think the Republicans have used scare tactics as well. The phrase “death panels” for example. What they should have done & should still be doing is presenting rational, easy to understand information about how ObamaCare works and specifically how it impacts senior citizens.

      Senior citizens aren‘t stupid and it’s insulting that both sides seem to think they are. And it’s reprehensible for either side to use fear in an attempt to get their votes .

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    • The10thAmendment
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 11:25am

      @ loriann12
      ———————————————————————————————————————————————
      I sympathize with you and will pray starting now for you and your family, especially your dad.

      The problem I have is that if people are awake and fulfilling their duty to be observant citizens, men of character and principle will be elected, and not the dunghill we have sent to Washington to represent them because they “seem” to be cool people, or because I didn’t recognize the names or the platform of the candidates so I just checked ones name.

      There was a reason the Founders envisioned an elective process where only those who owned property would vote. That was because it was those people who had the most to responsibility to protect their equal rights against tyranny.

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  • lcallday
    Posted on October 15, 2011 at 7:45am

    “Despite our best analytical efforts, I do not see a viable path forward for CLASS implementation at this time,”. Pretty bad when a liberal can’t analyze something until it works.

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  • MARCH4HIM
    Posted on October 15, 2011 at 7:39am

    So another words ……….When the death panels show-up……..SORRY GRANDMA.
    Its the REPUBLICAN’S… fault….OR…..BUSH……..OR….WALL-STREET….OR.. CAPITALISM
    but definately not……….. OBAMA OR….OBAMACARE……

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  • patriot4ever
    Posted on October 15, 2011 at 7:30am

    Three words: “Complete Lives System”

    It’s part of the plan to drop this part, don’t you see it? Dropping long term care for the elderly and disabled will be necessary to carry out the Complete Lives System. It’s an orchestrated false victory for the right.

    Don’t fall for it.

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 7:49am

      I don’t believe the Democrats or Republicans, in D.C. They are all corrupt.

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    • commonsenseguy
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 8:06am

      every move made by this administration is calculated, they are 5 moves ahead of the republicans, everything they do is designed to make the republicans fail, this loss has everything to do with healthcare,the healthcare of the democommies and their long term control, smoke and mirrors

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    • SPOT_OF_TEA
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 8:07am

      Its like Goerge Bernard Shaw said…..we all should have to go in front of a board every so often to prove are worthiness for being kept alive…..The theory is if we don’t produce as much or more than we consume we would be put to death….in a compassionate way of course….The Fabian Socialists are starting to emerge their ugly heads once again.

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    • Fantastic Four
      Posted on October 15, 2011 at 8:29am

      it’s just part of “COLLECTIVISM”….. and SCROTUS has mentioned it time and time again it‘s just people don’y want to listen with their brains.

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