WASHINGTON (AP) — The Obama administration on Friday ended a high-tech southern border fence scheme that cost taxpayers nearly $1 billion but did little to improve security. Congress ordered the high-tech fence in 2006 amid a clamor over the porous border, but the project yielded only 53 miles of protection.
Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said the lesson of the multimillion-dollar program is there is no “one-size-fits-all” solution for border security.
Napolitano said the department’s new technology strategy for securing the border is to use existing, proven technology tailored to the distinct terrain and population density of each region of the nearly 2,000-mile U.S-Mexico border. That would provide faster technology deployment, better coverage and more bang for the buck, she said.
Although it has been well known that the virtual fence project would be dumped, Napolitano officially informed key members of Congress Friday that an “independent, quantitative, science-based review made clear” the fence, known as SBInet, “cannot meet its original objective of providing a single, integrated border security technology solution.”
The fence, initiated in 2005, was to be a network of cameras, ground sensors and radars that would be used to spot incursions or problems and decide where to deploy Border Patrol agents. It was supposed to be keeping watch over most of the southern border with Mexico by this year.
Instead, taxpayers ended up with about 53 miles of operational “virtual fence” in Arizona for a cost of at least $15 million a mile, according to testimony in previous congressional hearings.
Sen. Joe Lieberman, chairman of the Senate’s Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee said the SBInet concept was unrealistic from the start. Napolitano’s decision “ends a long-troubled program that spent far too much of the taxpayers’ money for the results it delivered,” said Lieberman, I-Conn.
The high-tech fence was developed as part of a Bush administration response to a demand for tighter border security that arose amid a heated immigration debate in Congress.
The Bush administration awarded Boeing a three-year, $67 million contract. Then-Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said at the time the department was “looking to build a 21st century virtual fence.”
But the fence had a long list of glitches and delays. Its radar system had trouble distinguishing between vegetation and people in windy weather, cameras moved too slowly and satellite communications also were slow. Although some of the concept is in use in two sections of Arizona, the security came at too high a cost.
DHS and Boeing officials have said that the project called for putting together the first of its kind “virtual fence” too quickly by combining off-the-shelf components that weren’t designed to be linked
Mississippi Rep. Bennie Thompson, top Democrat of the House Homeland Security Committee, said the committee held 11 congressional hearings on the fence project and commissioned five reports by the Government Accountability Office, which blasted the project. Thompson, who chaired the committee until Republicans took over the House this month, called the project a grave and expensive disappointment.
Last January, Napolitano suspended spending on the project beyond work on two phases of the fence in Arizona. She ordered a study to determine whether SBInet could be fixed so it worked effectively and fulfilled its original goal. She also asked for a study to come up with lower cost, equally effective alternatives. She used $50 million meant for the fence to buy other technology and Border Patrol vehicles.
Boeing was the contractor for SBInet. Despite the problems, the Homeland Security Department granted Boeing a second one-year option on a three-year contract to work with the department for maintenance and upkeep of the two Arizona sections that are operational. That agreement continues through September 2011.
Some technologies from the project, such as stationary radar and infrared and optical sensor towers, will be used in future border security that will largely rely on mobile surveillance systems, unmanned aerial vehicles, thermal imaging devices and tower-based remote video surveillance systems. Money that was provided in an interim spending bill for the high-tech fence will go to the proven technologies.
The agency said in a report that it does not intend to use the existing Boeing contract to buy other technology systems for future southwest border security. It also said it will conduct “full and open competition” for elements in the new border security plan.
The Homeland Security Department has been studying other areas of the southern border to decide what technology and other resources would best beef up security in those areas. An initial proposal of technology needed to monitor three sectors — El Paso, which includes New Mexico; San Diego and the Rio Grande Valley of Texas — was to be done by this month. Proposals for border security technology for other sectors should be available by March, according to the report.
Rep. Peter King, chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, criticized the administration for taking too long to make its final decision to cancel SBInet and too long to decide what to do next. He wants a comprehensive border security plan that provides staffing, fencing and technology.
In a statement, Boeing said it is proud of the accomplishments of its team and the “unprecedented capabilities” delivered in the last year to assist Border Patrol. The company said it appreciates that Homeland Security Department recognizes the value of the fixed towers Boeing built as part of SBInet.
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OklahomaBound
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:33pmObama’s new border security plan; Lay out Welcome mats along the entire border and under each mat is a key to a sanctuary city of their choice, paperwork to file for welfare and food stamps, and a Dem party registration form.
Report Post »timber wolf
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 2:42pmyou forgot free healthcare/college.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:32pmI need help, I am trying to find a place that can print pictures on condoms. There is a guy I work with who has wasted at least 10million in tax payer funds so he would get kick backs, nobody will do anything about it. So I want to put his face on 100K condoms and give them out in gay bars across the nation.
Report Post »13thGenerationAmerican
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:25pmok, there is a hacker that hikacked my screen name, i’ve reported it, and will no longer use Sgt.Crust, and may wont post here until this gets fixed.
Report Post »13thGenerationAmerican
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:36pm1-800-Waa-AaHa
Report Post »Whostolemypig
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:24pmRather than take the aggressive approach to sealing our borders our president and congress would rather wait out the problem and let our grandkids handle it. They are too blind to see, or just don’t care, that sealing the border solves a lot of problems for Mexicans and Americans alike. First, it increases our “Homeland Security”, it eliminates access by a large percentage of both terrorist and criminal elements, thus increasing the safety and well being of out citizens. Next, it will decrease the number of Mexicans and Central Americans who go through the terror and hardship of long treks to get to the border, and abuse by those who take advantage. This in effect helps move the criminal element out of northern Mexico and reduces the burden on Mexican law enforcement along the border, which is a bloody, losing battle.
Paths to citizenship and future immigration are long term things to work out. Securing the border to avoid compounding future efforts to establish reasonable citizenship and immigration availability is the only sane alternative for national security and business alike. It is the only moral alternative for anyone who purports to really care about the plight of those wishing to enter this country or those who claim to be concerned about national security.
HELLO…….. HELLO………..HELLO…….. CONGRESS? THIS IS AMERICA CALLING, IS.ANYONE THERE?????????????????????????
Report Post »LoisLane1951
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:20pmYeah, give them California and then fence off California!
Report Post »13thGenerationAmerican
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:17pmhey 13th, I could post some major damaging stuff in your name as well, I think you may want to stop, goes for all the trolls here, k! you want that?
Report Post »13thGenerationAmerican
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:22pmIt’s your IP not mine
Report Post »SlimnRanger
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:04pmBush did nothing to stop the flow of illigals and Obamma isn’t either ,it’s all about votes, i am thinking it’s going to be left to the citizens to stop it
Report Post »wesaluteyou
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:03pm“But the fence had a long list of glitches and delays. Its radar system had trouble distinguishing between vegetation and people in windy weather, cameras moved too slowly and satellite communications also were slow. Although some of the concept is in use in two sections of Arizona, the security came at too high a cost.”
This is BS. What their using is a very similar Ground Base Operational Surveillance System that has been used for years with great success in Iraq and Afghanistan to protect main and forward bases. I know this because I have a very good friend/contractor who installs, supports and trains the Marines on the GBOSS tower system over there for the last three years. I can tell you its fact the Marines are very satisfied with the advantage the systems surveillance capabilities, speed, targeting and overall dependability performance it gives them, they put their lives on it every day and keep asking for more.
Report Post »dealer@678
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:51pmBad news for Dallas. We cant take any more Mexicans. We’re full
Report Post »psycodad36
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:49pmanyone notice how this crud ALWAYS comes out on friday eve.?
Report Post »Sgt.Crust
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:44pmThis is really a cop out, and the talk is cheap! Shoot a few of ‘em and they’ll thing twice about coming over. Trespassing is illegal, human and drug smuggling is illegal, we have the right to self defense, if the fed won’t do it, we sure can…
psycodad36
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:44pmcan anyone say government run border care?when has the fed done anything properly?
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:40pmCan we pull the plug on Obama? at least the plug to his teleprompter?
Report Post »13thGenerationAmerican
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:20pmok, this is bad, Sgt Crust did not post the above, it is 13th gen or broker or one of the other trolls, I’m reporting them…
Report Post »13thGenerationAmerican
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:32pm^The impersonator above me is off their medication
Report Post »Bob_R_OathKeeper
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:55pmYeah, I know that’s not Sgt. Crust, liberals are childish at best, easy to manipulate, that‘s why they are so eager to do their master’s bidding.
Report Post »Thighmaster
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:38pmWhat happened to pulling the plug on grandma?
Report Post »RojBlake
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:35pmI thought that the Obama admin believes in one-size-fits-all solutions. The whole border illegal discussion is yet another in a long list of divide & conquer BS.
Its better for the politicians to stir up an endless divisive debate than to solve the problem. How many issues do we go through this with? It is more lucrative to keep the argument going, so the alleged balance of power shifts, until the next election, & the American people are bilked for even more money to have the argument than to solve the problems.
Report Post »Neil Mariner
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:33pmApparently they found something else to waist are tax $$$$ on. Just remember, we voted these great thinkers into office. We got nothen comming till we vot-em out.
Report Post »GoingBeck
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:26pmAll of the talk above here about who owns what is utter nonsense.
Report Post »Please read about the Gadsden Purchase to know the facts.
royalstar
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:18pmThere should be an investigation into the approval of expenditures of unproven technologies and the details of the Boeing contract. This smells very fishy. All of this could have been analyzed in the virtual world and determined that the system wouldn’t work before contracts were given. Just more government corruption on the tax payers dime like the 500 dollar toilet seats and the 800 dollar hammers from previous fleecing. Another good old boy deal going back to the Bush administration. Boeing should have th give back the money due inablity to deliver the goods.
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:33pmCorrect, I know this for fact.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:17pmJust how much slave labor do these rich democrats really need?
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:34pmRich democrats need illegals for their votes.
Report Post »The labor is just a …well fringe benefit of having them in our country for rest of the year
Sgt.Crust
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:40pmMany more, they will turn them into votes eventually!
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:42pmThat‘s what I don’t understand, they don’t need the votes, they have all the votes of the dead, those in nursing homes to sick to vote for themselves, the prisoners, all those under 25 that have been brainwashed through outcome based education in schools for the last 40 years. The only reason they could still want them here is they really want our economy to look more like a 3rd world nation.
I need help, I am trying to find a place that can print pictures on condoms. There is a guy I work with who has wasted at least 10million in tax payer funds so he would get kick backs, nobody will do anything about it. So I want to put his face on 100K condoms and give them out in gay bars across the nation.
Report Post »LadybugsTX
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 4:59amAnd just to be safe, they put the SEIU in charge of the voting machines…
Report Post »Robbedagain
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:15pmThe US govt wants them here, or they’d do something about it. The same with drugs. If they didn‘t want drugs in this country there wouldn’t be any. It’s all money to them, they don’t care what it has done to us.
Report Post »Sgt.Crust
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:39pmyup, illegals to do the S__T work and drugs for the masses to keep ‘em distracted!
Report Post »Eblaze44
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:14pmWOW! a whole billion $ to protect our borders while how many billions to protect unions pensions and send our troops to Afghanistan? and they got a whole 53 miles done. They stalled the project until it failed. what‘s the problem that you don’t understand?
Report Post »Eblaze44
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:10pmNeed to hire more IRS agents – what we need with border guards. send IRS agents to collect taxes when they cross and a percentage of the drugs to sell to pay for them to be there.
Report Post »psycodad36
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:42pmillegals don’t pay taxes,they take ours
Report Post »Grady Curve
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:03pmevery other country in the world can secure their borders and control immigration… This is ONE MORE LIE told to us by the same Elites who claim that they know better…. RISE UP PEOPLE and send these CLOWNS packing
Report Post »Extinguisher
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:09pmYeah.. and they do it without walls.
Report Post »sWampy
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:21pmYes, they shoot people as they come near the border, we wouldn’t have to shoot 10 a year to stop 99.9% of the illegals. We could stop 99% of the illegal drugs just by putting poison in 1% of all the drugs we capture and letting the dealers go and take the poisoned drugs with them.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:31pmWasn’t Janetalia Incompetano talking border security just a few days ago ?
Report Post »Oh wait. she wanted the Afghan- Pakistan border secured.
Since she is the Sec of
HOMELAND security
Sgt.Crust
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:37pmlike i said earlier post .50 cals every 1000 feet and shoot first ask questions later, as for the enemy from within, let ‘em make the first move, then they’ll be sorry, take that to the bank.
Report Post »Sgt.Crust
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:15pmok, that second post by Sgt.Crust, is a hijacker, not me…I will be changing names from here on out!
Report Post »NancyBee
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 11:03amTo Sgt. Crust…….I’m very disappointed with you….What’s up?
Report Post »megansmom
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 9:55pmwouldn’t it be cheaper to put a concrete fence up and use boarder patrol to patrol it, you know do there job
Report Post »Extinguisher
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:08pmNo it wouldn’t. It would be another waste of money. Building a fence is the utlimate line of BS when the cartels/trafficers are tunneling under the ground. Anyone who says differently doesn‘t know what they’re talking about. Actually enforcing the current immigration laws would be the best deterrent for border security. A wall is nothing more than political kool aid to make you think they’re doing something about it.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:16pm@ Extinguisher
How about build a fence
Report Post »AS WELL AS
enforce the laws ?
And
let the Border Agents / Sheriffs/ local cops
DO THEIR JOBS
without DC acting like agents of Calderon ?
Sgt.Crust
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:33pmHow about a .50 cal every 1000 feet or so, manned by Americans! Shoot first, ask questions later, how do you like me now!
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:02pmSgt.Crust
How about a .50 cal every 1000 feet or so, manned by Americans! Shoot first, ask questions later, how do you like me now!
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Remember when the Minutemen volunteers with binoculars and lawn-chairs secured the border without firing a single shot ?
No wonder the government doesn’t want to secure that border. They can’t do anything to prove that patriotic Americans are right and it can be done
Report Post »Sgt.Crust
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:10pmLOL, I do cheesewiz, I guess we’re just scary looking enough for them eh? but i like the .50 cal for backup,,,
Report Post »My Sacred Honor
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:30pm@ SGTCRUST. Gotta disagree again. Although i don’t want people to come here illegally, such a huge majority of them coming really are refugees fleeing a dying country. To “kill them all” is wrong on so many levels. I actually wouldn’t mind some of my tax dollars going toward our military going into Mexico, under the shared control of the Mexican President and handling the drug cartel situation down there. If we help make Mexico a prosperous nation, then we as Americans benifit greatly from that.
Report Post »AmericanSoldier
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:38pmLegalize drugs and we won’t have the cartel problems down south.
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:42pmIf we help make Mexico a prosperous nation, then we as Americans benifit greatly from that.
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Lets see:
1. mehicans who work in our country send their money to mehico
2. mehicans who don’t work and are on welfare here, send part of their money to mehico
3. drug dealers and kidnappers and cayotes send their money to mehico
4. our country buys stuff from mehico and mehico keeps that money
5. US tourists feed the mehican tourist industry
6. our country gives billions in various kinds of foreign aid to mehico
How much more money will make them prosperous ?
Report Post »My Sacred Honor
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:11am@ CHEEZEWHIZ exactly my point. If Mexico were a prosperous nation, then Mexicans wouldn’t be fleeing in droves to come here. Then the border would be trickling 10′s of thousands of bad guys every year instead of the hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of the 90/10 mix of good to bad guys. 10,000 per year we could handle easily and have reason to deport back to a stable country who would imprison them for their crimes, and we would have around a millilon or so jobs back that “Americans just won’t do”
Report Post »cheezwhiz
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:32am@ My Sacred Honor
Report Post »mehico is a rich country of poor mehicans.
And thats NOT our fault.
Our prosperity is NOT their right.
Our charity is NOT their right.
If they want to be prosperous , they can do what booming economies like India, Singapore or China are doing. But they choose NOT to. They have resources but they choose NOT to develop them
Breeding anchorbabies for mealtickets is NO way to prosper .
Biting the very hands that feed them is NO way to prosper
My Sacred Honor
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:43am@ CHEEZEWHIZ, no, I TOTALLy agree with that. But they need either a hard core ruler or some help, and I believe we have the proper help. Their people most DEFINATELY need to grow the balls to make things right in their country, but until they get right, WE don’t get right in regards of the illegal issue. Mexico HAS to do what is right, I’m just offering constructive suggestions here because a “wall” AIN’T gonna “git-er-done”. Never will. I’m most definately free to better solutions, but I say if our southern neighbor needs help, then I’d rather spend our welfare diollars getting them squared away than sending those checks to crack addicted mothers of 5 so they can live in their free homes with their free food and free cable. We solve this immigration thing and we have solved a HUGE chunk of our own national issues.
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:44amcheezwhiz How much money.. ALL WE HAVE although it’s worth LESS than a few years ago..so they probably want MORE than we have
Report Post »click4cheapandeasyweb
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:45amAmericanSoldier
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:38pm
“Legalize drugs and we won’t have the cartel problems down south.”
No!
That’s a terribel solution.
Report Post »My Sacred Honor
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:47amBut then, i check myself. My proposed solution is ‘welfare state’ minded…. but then, dammit, what else are we gonna do? Keep letting all these people here when we can’t even sustain our own economy? I think yes, give this one-time help and get Mexico squared away. If they degrade again, then we get drastic.
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:27am@CHEEZWHIZ and MY SACRED HONOR….You two are on fire tonight! Yeah! Great input!
Report Post »foobear
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 3:34amConcrete? What sort of crazy talk is this? It’s just not American to just use a cheap, fast, and effective solution!
We need a Web 2.0 based social networking blog-o-wall virtual fence that will cost 10 billion dollars and catch seven people a year.
Pfft.
(But seriously – if we had the technology to do this cheaply and effectively on the Ho Chi Minh Trail back in Vietnam, why the hell can’t we do it on our own border?)
Report Post »walkwithme1966
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 8:57amActually I am not sure they could get that right – our borders are a real problem!!
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13thGenerationAmerican
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 9:55pmWell we could give Texas and Arizona back to Mexico and call it even.
Report Post »broker0101
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:03pmYou go right ahead and put that deal together for us. We await the final paperwork, you loudmouth, lying asshat.
Ironmaan
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:05pmWe shouldn’t give them anything. We should take what they have. It would be doing them a favor as it would boost their standard of living once their corrupt government was out of power. Never mind, I think our government might be more corrupt than theirs.
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13thGenerationAmerican
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:08pmWe get to keep New Mexico and SoCal, so essentially, we’re even Steven
Report Post »Eblaze44
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:08pmI’d rather give them California. The people of Arizona are on the right path – it’s California that opens them with welcome arms, even while filling their prisons with them.
Report Post »Sgt.Crust
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:30pm@13th, LOL, that would solve everything. I am baaaack, and I want to let you know I didn’t miss you very much. I can’t believe my eyes…what a joke.
Report Post »Sgt.Crust
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:32pmLOL, give ‘em NOTHING! let ‘em come take it, LOL!
Report Post »101
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 10:42pmLand mines, tanks, automatic weapons and civilian patrols…call it operation “together we thrive to keep illegal’s out”
Report Post »Sgt.Crust
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:11pmaww now they’re hacking my name now, how special…
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:13pmIllegal Mexicans – simple, severe fines for any employer who hires them or any landlord who rents to them. They will self deport and we will pay $5 for lettuce.
Result, don’t need a fence.
Drug smugglers – don’t care, legalize weed, use taxes from it to rehab hard drug addicts. Lifetime in prison for all hard drug dealers, no penalty for users other than mandatory rehab and temporary loss of minor children.
Result, still don’t need a fence.
OTM’s (other than Mexican) – not so simple, these could be and are terrorists.
Report Post »Result, need a fence, one that is guarded by the US military. NO-ONE gets through. The US Military gets shiite done! Any terrorists go straight to GITMO.
My Sacred Honor
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:19pmSounds like a ‘shovel ready job” to me. You hire whatever number of agents deemed necessary to patrol the boarder, give them the equipment and ‘rules of engagement’ needed to do the job in total, and BOOM! you have a secured border. DON’T put up a fence, that is rediculous. You just need the manpower to properly patrol, and the means to “git-er-done”, and the southern border is secure.
Report Post »Like THAT will ever happen….
My Sacred Honor
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:25pm@ SGTCRUST They ARE. There are even University of New Mexico “professors” who advocate for “La Republic Del Norte”, “The northern republic” which calls for Mexico’s annexation of Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Southern Colorado, Nevada and Southern California because “that territory was stolen from Mexico”. Their current strategy is to fill the state houses in these states with enough like-minded hispanic representation to order a seccession of each state, then freely give the territories to Mexico. Don’t know any current sites, but look up “republic del norte’ and “new mexico professor” in the same search. he even published his essay.
Report Post »NOT to be confussed with his “esays”
Cobra Blue
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:30pmBottom line to all this….that ain‘t gonna do nuthin’. The politicians like those little hispano’s…mucho voters to support their perpetual existance.
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:31pm@101 above has the plan, I worked with the system canceled, and many aspects of it should have been shelved three years ago. The wall idea is the best and it’s already made, all we need to do is ship it back from Iraq, it’s around every FOB we’ve now closed.
Report Post »My Sacred Honor
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:33pmOK I looked it up. here’s a good site to see “Repblica del norte’
Report Post »And yes, i forgot to put the “a” after ‘republic” in my post. Sue me. I’m American and speak English.
http://www.aztlan.net/homeland.htm
jzs
Posted on January 14, 2011 at 11:43pmWell, the border is 2000 plus miles long and the United States build about 50 miles for a billion dollars. So, if my math is correct, that’s 40 billion to build the 2000 mile “Great Wall of China” between us and Mexico. Of course that’s only the building of the wall, not maintaining the wall (easy enough to cut through a fence or dig under it) and manning it with soldiers. And we also have to ask every brown person coming into this country for their papers, and the are several hundred entry points.
And that will solve the problem! No more Mexicans, no more tired, weary, yearning to be free. And Americans can all go back to work picking fruit, scrubbing floors, picking weeds, unloading freight for for minimum wage as we all were before the dang Mexican came in and offerred to to those things for less than minimum wage, which was fine for employeers because in increaed their profits, but which Americans refused to do because they believe in the minimum wage.
Report Post »RLTW
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:04amJZS
Report Post »I picked tomatoes in California every summer for 2.40$ an hour until the Mexicans pushed us out, historically do you know why we have summer vacation?
CatB
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:19amMore wasted money by the government .. surprise surprise NOT! … So build the d a m n real fence! And put the National Guard on the border armed and ready to shoot. They were shooting over the border at our citizens just this week … time to start shooting back!
Report Post »My Sacred Honor
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:24am@ RLTW So the kids could help with farming and the harvest.
Report Post »@JZS I’ve done nearly every job that the illegals do, and without protest. it was an honest day’s labor for an agreed upon wage, but you hit the nail right on the head, even without you knowing it. They do it cheaper, and the people in charge know this and exploit this. This runs counter to your point in this way. Although YES, some will exploit for better finantial gain, then isn’t it time to make these people liable for what they are doing? And in doing so, give Americans back their jobs? And put the greedy in jail? You ******** fascinate me with your counter-logic, and you prolly won’t even respond to this. You hold the employers culpable hard core, and you stop the hiring of illegals. Then the unemployment rate drops 2-5% and we as a sovergn nation can get back on track.
My stepdad was a carpenter in Vegas 6 years ago and couldn’t get work. The reason? It was well known that the same social security number was floating around the union by 12 different people and the union did nothing. Didn’t even care. So many 18 year olds in the hall had journeyman’s cards (wich take YEARS to accomplish) and the union didn’t care. Now you tell me that is a job Americans won’t do. Building with wood as a carpenter. My stepdad couldn’t get a job from all the illegals in line ahead of him with their bogus papers of citizenship. With the union’s consent and blessing.
click4cheapandeasyweb
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:28amSo a $117,000,000 Million Dollars (one hundred seventeen million dollars) were spent. With $1 Billion approved for it. I want to know where the hell is the other 900 million???????
Report Post »click4cheapandeasyweb
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:29am13thGenerationAmerican, and we can give you back to the Commies.
Report Post »click4cheapandeasyweb
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:30amEblaze44, AGREED!
Report Post »click4cheapandeasyweb
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:40amMy Sacred Honor, i have been making the following proposal here on the blaze since its inception…
We shut down almost all of our Military bases around the world. The world can protect themselves from now on. Like Glenn said today… “I’m sick of playing Cops for the world”. Bring home our military from Afghanistan by summer. The only bases I would staff would be in Iraq and N. Korea because of the crazy nuke threats from the border countries.
Use some of the money savings from closing all those bases to build 10 mini-military bases stretched out along our southern border. Have the bases cover areas where there is no border patrol coverage. The military are very good at patrolling and securing their perimeters.
Ths should cut down about 90% of the problems from both the drug smugglers and the illegals.
It’s time we brought home our military where they are needed.
Report Post »independentvoteril
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:41amBetter idea we could march back into MEXICO City again only KEEP it this time.. REMEMBER TX LEFT MEXICO .. and WANTED to be part of the U.S. bet their sorry now.. they DON’T want to be part of either one now..
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 12:59am“The Obama administration on Friday ended a high-tech southern border fence scheme that cost taxpayers nearly $1 billion but did little to improve security. Congress ordered the high-tech fence in 2006 amid a clamor over the porous border, but the project yielded only 53 miles of protection.
AND then
Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said the lesson of the multimillion-dollar program is there is no “one-size-fits-all” solution for border security.”
When are We, The People going to stand up and say that ENOUGH is ENOUGH…they have done nothing but play us like a cheap violin! The 2006 Congress ordered this to cover their asses for the 2008 election cycle (and they gave the contracts to their cronies, knowing full well that they would maintain control long enough to cover the “theft” from the American People) and still not have to build the damn fence…NOW that they took a beating in November, they know that the House will do nothing more than continue the same “theft”, except to THEIR cronies…SO…therefore, it isn’t WORTH their time to keep up the charade any longer!
This is a joke…how can WE possibly process all of this crap, HOW? And those who we THINK we put into office to “TAKE BACK AMERICA” are all of what? A handful of HOPEFULS?
Look at what they put us through this past week…Don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to even begin to compare what we have gone through in any way to the grief suffered by those who were massacred by a drug-crazed mad man or their families and friends…but look what the loony Left did ALL WEEK LONG beginning 30 MINUTES AFTER THE SHOOTINGS…We had Fox’s own “Schlep” Smith talking with a close friend of Rep Gifford and she states that she was told it was a returning American Soldier back from Afghanistan…AND…that he was most likely spurred on by the Tea Party Movement…did “Schlep” even offer up a “well, lets wait and see what develops?”…Of COURSE NOT…that was the beginning…THEN we have a completely clueless idiot of a president who comes into my state and leads an auditorium full of clueless, ill-mannered students in a “Pep-Rally Memorial”…and of course “the rally” was kicked off by a half Mexican pausing so that his half breed heritage could be loudly applauded by the audience…I don‘t think I’ve ever seen anything so insulting and insensitive in all my life! Oh wait…then they pass out “commemorative T-Shirts”…
Honestly, what is it going to take America, WHAT?
AND…….If not NOW America…WHEN? If not US…WHO?
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AzDebi
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:20am@jzs: The way it “really” is…Illegals LOWER the overall IQ of the American population…they speak broken English (at best…if they speak it AT ALL) and ridding our Country of them will free those “menial” jobs up for OUR YOUTH…you know…the youth who can’t find a summer job or a part time job while attending college because the ILLEGALS have taken them ALL! AND…OUR YOUTH can begin to be taught TRADES and quite even POSSIBLY some kind of WORK ETHIC! AND…it won’t take two years and the wage in all of those “menial” jobs will be elevated because we have STANDARDS for LEGAL WORKERS in THIS country AND they will be LEGAL TAX PAYERS!
We HAVE everything in this Country that we NEED! We don‘t need stinkin’ ILLEGALS!
Report Post »hkyfan36
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:29amEasy put up any kind of fence you want. Any Put lots of signs on fence. Much like a military base. Saying if you cross this fence you will be shot. Then start shooting. This will only take a few days worth of shooting to build up a pretty decent pile of people. This gives a message to others that are trying to come over that were not fooling around any more.
Report Post »jzs
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:33am@My Sacred Honor – actually I appreciate your heartfelt response. Personally I think the answer to illegal immigration is to increase enforcement against employeers. IMO, virtually all people crossing the border come here because they can find work and make money. If there are jobs available to them, no trillion dollar Great Wall of China is going to stop anyone from crossing and taking those jobs (wire cutters are $25 at Home Depot). So, aren’t we on the same page there?
I won’t speak for Unions. Unions served a purpose in American history, by provided a check against companies who would enrich themselves while paying a wage so low that employees were forced to starve slowly or quit and starve quickly. But times have changed and the “check and balance” provided by unions has past. Unions have little power now because companies have adapted, and there is (before the economic collapse) a demand for skill.
I’m not sure I disagree with you, even though you called me a *******, which I think is a combination of the word liberal and retarded.
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:35am@click4cheapandeasyweb: Outstanding! I agree! NOW WHAT?
Report Post »AzDebi
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:45amF.Y.I. Those advocating Employer Sanctions Laws…
Supreme Court Hears Challenge To Arizona Employer Sanctions Law
December 8, 2010
ACLU, MALDEF And NILC Charge Discriminatory Law Is Unconstitutional
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
CONTACT: (212) 549-2666; media@aclu.org
WASHINGTON – The U.S. Supreme Court heard arguments today in Chamber of Commerce v. Whiting, the first challenge to the recent wave of state and local anti-immigrant laws to reach the Supreme Court. The case, brought by a broad coalition of civil rights and business groups including the American Civil Liberties Union, ACLU of Arizona, MALDEF, the National Immigration Law Center (NILC) and the United States Chamber of Commerce, challenges an Arizona law that imposes penalties on businesses that the state determines have employed workers not lawfully authorized to work in the U.S.
One of the strictest such state laws in the nation, the Arizona scheme imposes severe sanctions on employers who have hired unauthorized workers and improperly requires all employers in the state to participate in an employment verification database system, E-Verify, that is explicitly voluntary under federal law. The coalition’s lawsuit charges that the Arizona law conflicts with federal law and violates the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution. The United States Justice Department has filed a brief supporting the coalition’s position.
Report Post »My Sacred Honor
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 2:42am@JZS YES you are correct in my assessment of you as a “*******;, whichich is a combo of “liberal” and ‘******’. Prove yourself otherwise. I gave an example from personal experience of how illegals are using our slack system to get paid here, and you nor do any others have to believe me. Do your own research as Beck says nearly all the time. You will see the proof.
Report Post »Jackers
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 8:01amGood! We don’t want a PC “virtual” border fence; we want a REAL border fence – a 700-mile, double-layered fence that was signed into law by George Bush in 2006.
No such thing as “virtual” safety and security… Either we’re safe, or we’re not. If a fence is good enough for the White House, than it should be good enough for us…
Report Post »Paleo Archer
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 11:29amMSNBC…“ Lean Forward” isn’t that what law-enforcement asks before they frisk you?
Report Post »Deb C
Posted on January 15, 2011 at 1:06pmAhhhh what price for OUR border security….while we are spared no cost for survellience upon the citizenry
Report Post »Texas-bearkat
Posted on January 16, 2011 at 3:48amCome And Take It
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Posted on January 16, 2011 at 10:29pm@13thGenerationAmerican: “Well we could give Texas and Arizona back to Mexico and call it even.”
BETTER IDEA — keep Texas and Arizona and give all the illegal aliens back to Mexico and call that even.
BEST IDEA — give Barack Hussein Obama, AKA Barry Obama, AKA Barry Soetoro, back to Kenya and sue for damages!
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