Obama: ‘AK-47s Belong in the Hands of Soldiers, Not in the Hands of Criminals’
- Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:35am by
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President Barack Obama made some of his most direct remarks yet on gun violence Wednesday, calling it “common sense” to keep assault weapons off the streets and to bar criminals from being able to purchase weapons.
“I, like most Americans, believe that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual the right to bear arms. I think we recognize the traditions of gun ownership that passed on from generation to generation, that hunting and shooting are part of a national heritage,” Obama said in a speech to National Urban League, six days after the mass movie theater shooting in Aurora, Colo. “But I also believe that a lot of gun owners would agree that AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not in the hands of criminals; that they belong on the battlefield of war, not on the streets of our cities.”
He continued, “I believe the majority of gun owners would agree we should do everything possible to prevent criminals and fugitives from purchasing weapons, and we should check someone’s criminal record before they can check out a gun seller, that a mentally unbalanced individual should not be able to get his hands on a gun so easily.”
While there’s been a sharp uptick in calls for more gun control following the Aurora shooting, such talk has so far received little support from lawmakers in a position to enact it. Obama decried the political and lobbying efforts he said “too often” seek to defeat such changes, and pledged to work with members of both parties on an overall “violence reduction.”
“These steps shouldn’t be controversial, they should be common sense,” Obama said.
Watch a portion of Obama’s speech below, via Mediaite:
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MODEL82A1
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:51amI also like the specific not-intentional example Obama uses: AK47′s (the preferred weapon of our Enemies) BELONG in the hands of those Enemy “Soldiers”. Priceless.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:02pm“not-unintentional” that should have read.
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:07pmNow I was going to write that.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:10pmDISMAYED, Great minds think alike. And so do ours.
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:10pmWhat a spin master. I probably wouldn’t keep an AK if it were given to me.
Report Post »My Two Cents
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:10pmHe was propably referring to the Corpse Men.
Report Post »Roberto G. Vasquez
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:12pmEvery dictator says the same thing: “We have to disarm the peasants!” Nothing new there.
Report Post »What is new is the very same American administration responsible for putting +/- 2000 illegal AK’s (and sililar) on the streets (which has led to over 300 murders of Americans and Mexicans so far) is now blaming all lawabiding Americans for one mentally ill nut-job’s killing spree. What a sick, phony excuse, for trying to deprive Americans of their Constitutional rights!.
Gonzo
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:13pmConsidering the fact that AKs are the prefered (maybe exclusive) weapon of the Taliban, it shows that he thinks of the Taliban as an opposing army instead of terrorists. They don’t fit my definition of an army, do they fit yours?
Report Post »the_system_disconnect
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:14pmNot our soldiers, Obama’s soldiers…..silly
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:15pmPerhaps “corpseman” Rashard can inform Mr Obama that AK-47′s have been killing AMERICAN soldiers for decades? It is the weapon of choice for our enemies.
Report Post »And someone please correct me if I’m wrong..but didn’t Holmes use an AR-15? I mean..this is what this is all about..Obama’s politicizing the shooting to push his anti-gun agenda again right?
hechafteth
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:21pmI think the worst part of this man’s speech was his ludicrous association between the daily carnage in cities such as Chicago, Detroit, and New York with illegally procured firearms by criminals and the acts of the criminally insane with legally purchased firearms in the case of Aurora, Columbine, and Arizona without acknowledging the absolute failures of government gun-control resulting in Ruby Ridge and Waco.
The words of a tyrant…
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:24pmhow about in the hands of self defenders and not murderers.
Report Post »TheEDGE
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:24pmThe mighty M1A/M14 is the gun that belongs in the hands of patriots.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:26pmThe NRA are the true terrorists, they are responsible for the deaths of thousands of American every year. States with lax gun laws are the reason for guns flooding American cities.
There is no reason for any citizen to own an assault rifle, regardless of how small your manhood is, these instruments of death have no place in the hands of citizens.
MODEL82A1
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:29pmENCIDIOT, is the NRA “people”, you know, like a Corporation?
Report Post »Banter
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:35pmencinom
Hey limp-wrist, last I checked Chicago has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the nation, yet the daily murder rate is off the charts.
Please, please tell us you are the “boyfriend” who ran out on his girlfriend and kids at the Aurora shooting. It so fits your profile.
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:38pmOnce again encidope uses the Marxist mindset. Look at the facts… more innocent lives are saved by legal gun owners. Liberal cities with the strictest gun laws have the highest gun murders. Finally when firearms are confiscated government have killed over 250 million innocent people in abouts 100 years. Who is the dangerous group? Why the 2a? Duh
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:40pmYes ENCIDIOT..that’s right..and Chicago which has some of the tightest gun laws in the country has seen more gun murders this year than casualties in Afghanistan.
Report Post »That “fssshhhhh” sound you’re hearing ENCIDIOT/MONICNE/SLEAZY HIPPO is the sound of your deflating argument as you try to spin your way out of this fact.
Let me dumb it down for you champ…Chicago..some of the toughest gun laws in the country…murder rates have spiked 38% this year.
What‘s Rahm Emanuel’s solution? He tells the gang members to not shoot around kids..they should find another place to shoot each other.
You’re an idiot.
encinom
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:43pmSo Banter, unable to actual argue the facts, like the fact that the guns on the streets of Chicago, were legally purchased in other state or at gun shows and brought into the city. Can’t argue that fact that Mayor Bloomberg has proven how corrupt these gun shows are, willing to sell to anybody with cash in their hands.
So instead you make childish insults.
Report Post »biohazard23
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:43pmOh look, EncinoMan is posting from the library again! Did Mom finally kick you out of the basement?
You’ve really got to come up with some new material. These typical liberal talking points you keep posting are both lame and boring, just like you. Run along now and stay out of the kiddie section. You know how much trouble you got into the LAST time you wandered in there…..
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:45pmBANTER…ENCINOM can‘t tell you if he’s a boyfriend or not because he has at least 3 screennames here..two are male personas and one is a female persona. The “MONICNE” (gosh clever huh? He just reversed the spelling of ENCINOM the crafty devil) persona is female..apparently a 60 year old woman who runs marathons, has done a stint in the military and is quite well off and a philanthropist (yeah..ENCIDIOT has gone that far with the fantasy). The other is a corpulent twentysomething male who he calls “SLEAZY HIPPO”. So when you ask if ENCIDIOT is the boyfriend that left the girlfriend and her kids in the theater..it really depends who ENCINOM is posting as..if it’s MONICNE..he’s a female. Creepy huh?
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:49pmEncinom
Report Post »OK name one or shut up
ThemDemsLie2much
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:52pmBlaze, what the hell is with the pop-up? I even signed up for the damn news letter and still I get this crap everytime I visit. Wish I knew how I could shove one of those pop-ups you people sell us out with up your asses. Not cool!
Report Post »Banter
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:52pmencinom
Listen, limp-wrist, you are 100% wrong calling the NRA murderers. You are 100% wrong that citizens should not have guns. The facts are quite clear, and easy to research, that where the citizens have been disarmed, they become fodder for the criminals.
You know this to true, but over the last few years you have managed to be on the wrong side of every argument on this site. Why? You are a liberal pansy, and will be treated as such.
Report Post »Lotus503
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:53pmThen, I guess that Mr. Obama shouldn’t have an AK-47…
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:54pmThe 2nd amendment has nothing to do with hunting or target shooting. It is there so that all law abiding Americans have the means to fight against our government if they become tyrannical, which actually they have. I would be better to have an assault weapon and never need it, than to need it and not have it. All of you like Encinom that believe we do not need assault rifles on the streets, like Mitt Romney, should go live in Russia or somewhere other than here and leave the 2nd amendment alone. We have already had many of our amendments trashed, when they trash the 2nd, we will be in deep trouble.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:57pmWhat part of this right dose he not understand???
The Second Amendment – Right to Bear Arms. A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be INFRINGED.
Report Post »This is MY RIGHT to OWN and to BEAR ARMS PERIOD!!!!
TheEDGE
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:59pmI wouldn‘t be surprised if the AK was the gun O’blah blah trained with back in his medrasa days. He meant to say AR15. It was a Freudian slip.
Report Post »Banter
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 1:05pmAvengerk
Too funny, and so true. I have seen you take “them” to task many times.
Report Post »historyguy48
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 1:13pmComrade West Coast Patriot, when they make the attempt to overturn the second amendment, and they will, soon, we will be faced with a choice. To give up your guns is to give up your freedom! Personally, I know which way I’ll go, and I do know how to use my Barrett!
Report Post »Banter
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 1:14pmencinom
Childish insults, huh limp-wrist?
encinom post:
“Beck is the happy smiling face to hide the fact that he is spreading the message of DC insiders from Freedom Workers and the GOP controlled Tea ****** party.”
Gee, limp-wrist, wonder what’s under the astericks.
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 1:16pm@encinom: Whatever bonehead.
There is no such thing as an “assault rifle” unless mis-informed idiots like yourself decide to make it one.
Report Post »docgreen
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 1:19pm@west coast patriot
Report Post »Amen to that Brother! I don’t think people are looking at the fine details in the UN takeover! Let me ask you this. Who’s going to confiscate these Weapons? The UN, Police, or Military? This is Really Bad and the Details in the Fine Print are what we need to understand!… You see how the UN coddles to muslim countries? Or putting muslim countries in positions where they’re the ones overseeing this. Its all the same! Muslim Terrorists wouldn’t give up their guns! This is a first step in GOV. takeover of our 2nd amendment! Next they’ll say everyone needs to Register all guns, after that its Shells and Bullets! See all these Liberals want our rights to be taken away, but they never do that for themselves! This is BS, and the Worse part about this is; they never go after the Individuals that cause these killings. No, we would rather put them in prison for life and pay every day for them to get square meals a day! Instead we need to go back to Hanging them! Just like Gang Bangers! But No they go after individuals who purchased them legally!
AvengerK
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 1:23pmENCIDIOT…you do realise criminals procure stolen weapons that were LEGALLY purchased don’t you? You know..being CRIMINALS and all? You know criminals do dishonest stuff right?
Report Post »So let me get this straight…there was a surge of Chicagoans who drifted over to neighboring states, purchased guns there and all decided to spike the murder rate by 38% in Chicago?
And of course..what‘s Rahm Emanuel’s answer? He tells the gang members to shoot away from children. You know gang members ENCIDIOT? They’re criminals right? See above for further clarification.
Calimann83
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 1:33pmThank you, I was going to say the something.
Report Post »black9897
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 1:36pmWell, we know Romney will agree with you BO.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 1:40pmPerhaps we all have short memories today? Three words for you..(ok..four words if you’re Joe Biden) FAST AND FURIOUS? Obama let guns run over the border totally unchecked in order to enact his anti-gun agenda. And what‘s Obama’s response? He seals the DOJ records from congress so that his complicity in killing Americans and Mexicans isn’t brought to light.
Didn’t Obama tell a $2500 a plate audience of limousine liberals in San Francisco in 2008 that those Americans in “fly over” country “cling” to their bibles, guns and bigottry? Obama’s contempt for the second amendment is clear and apparent. He’d rather allow criminals to obtain the weapons through their usual means..ILLEGAL and leave Americans defenseless.
Imagine if a few people in that audience in Aurora were armed while Holmes was on his rampage. They could have had a chance to save some lives and bring down Holmes instead of being left no option but to hide, run or be shot. But in Obamaworld…no chance is always better than some chance especially if it means shaking loose a few lefty votes still being obstinate about voting a second term for you.
Report Post »docgreen
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 1:56pm@avengerk
Report Post »I posted this on the Nation of Islam story!
People, we may think he’s looney, if we don’t wake the F. up we might as well practice it ourselves! I keep saying islam is trying to destroy us, how you ask? Think about this. You have kids on Chicago streets selling, abusing, raping, and killing for their gangs, right? When islam says they’re the fruit of islam; do you realize they’re using these kids to further islam, but not only that, they use them as a militia and suicide bombers! What could go wrong with this? And then rahm, steps up and believes this is Great? OMG people how stupid can we be, to believe this is going to be used against us? What if I said people, we will let you sell drugs all day long once we take over America? Or you can have all the children for sex, that you take in jihad? Or you can have all the possesions of people you kill? As long as you submit to islam? People we need to stop this right now! Why would Rahm think this was a Great Idea? Chaos and Killing in the Streets for obama to declare Martial Law! They’re using this to destroy America and the West! Global Islam and the New World Order! Remember how I stated obama’s arming is own Militia, when we heard about selling Guns to the Cartels? This wasn’t about tracking them! It was all about bringing Bloodshed and Martial Law to the North America! Obama’s agenda!
AvengerK
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 2:17pmSo let me reiterate….Obama wants to take Americans’ guns away..but he’s happy to provide Mexican drug cartels with thousands of firearms through FAST AND FURIOUS? Really?
Report Post »wesinLR
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 2:32pmthe ak 47 is a great weapon. and love mine. i named it old trusty.
Report Post »Bum thrower
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 2:43pmReally!!?? Why were they shipping them acoss the US Mexican border; I guess those drug guys are ‘soldados’….
Report Post »kadster01
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 2:49pmTwo problems with Obama’s argument. James Holmes did not use an AK-47. He used a semi-automatic rifle and a semi-automatic handgun. Just because the rifle LOOKS daunting, does not make it a machine gun. If I could put a corvette body on a VW bug, it still would not be a corvette.
In addition to that, no amount of background checks would have raised any red flags about Holmes. He had no criminal history and no history of mental health issues. Obama, as predicted, is politicizing a tragedy to further his Marxist agenda. He will pay lip service in an election year to not wanting to threaten our 2nd Amendment, but if (God forbid) he wins a 2nd term, watch how quickly he changes his tune.
Report Post »mtcountrygrl
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 3:18pmI used to think, “okay assult rifles, I’m okay with them being banned. There is no practical self defense use for them”. I have since changed my mind. First of all, there is no gun called an “assult riffle” so who gets to define what meets that category (all multiple round riffles?)? And second the big thing that changed my mind was OWS. As a business owner, when OWS comes to burn down and loot my business or my home, I feel I will need more than a pump action shotgun to defend it. When I see the flash mobs of 300 attacking stores, group rapes in Egypt, and OWS smashing windows and firebombing businesses; I realize we have entered a new era of “group crime”. And you know what, you will need an “assult rifle” when the mob comes for you.
Report Post »muffythetuffy
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 3:27pmTHIS PRESIDENT IS DESPICABLE.
AK47 was not used in this massacre Federal money was used to buy better weapons and equipment by the killer. . How many guns did Obama turn over to the Mexican Drug Army for use against Mexicans and Americans.
Report Post »TexasHunter
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 3:33pmOBAMA Please READ THIS !! Your DOJ was selling AK47 to the MEXICAN CARTEL !! So why should TRUE AMERICANS not have one to protect OUR FAMILIES?? WE have to have powerful guns to PROTECT OURSELVES FROM THE GOVERNMENT AND A PRESIDENT LIKE YOU!!@ss
Report Post »Ben__Franklin
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 3:47pmSleazy-Hippo AKA Multiple Personality Disorder, Your argument about guns coming from other states into Chicago is all wrong. It would be breaking the law to bring guns into Chicago to kill people. Therefore it cannot be happening. Criminals follow the law, that is why gun bans and gun free areas work.
Do you have another argument?
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 3:50pmThe AK-47 is not the standard issue American military weapon but it is used. The 5.56 round is a wounding round. Meant to go through and through to get that person off the battle field. The 7.62 is a more powerful round. Its a slower bullet mean it hits like a truck. The M-16 is a more accurate weapon over the AK but the availability of ammo and the reliability the AK is known for does give the AK a wanted position in the world.
There is a very good reason Obama and BIll Oreilly are talking about AK-47. It is known as a Russian and terrorist weapon. People will agree to ban it because it looks scary. The problem is they will ban guns like the AK, which will also mean the AR-15 and other assault weapons get the ban also.
Trust me both sides want and like gun control. They are working for the same goals. In the end your choice will be give up your guns or be indefinitely detained as a terrorist.
Of course we have good old Romney to protect us. This video is a perfect example of what a garbage candidate Romney is.
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzYTdM9b5F4
Recceman90
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 4:01pmArmed people are Citizens, Unarmed people are Subjects…..I will always be a citizen, as long as blood still pumps through my body!
Report Post »RGFROMTEXAS
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 4:19pm6,000 Rounds of Ammunition – No Photo ID
Report Post »1 Vote – Photo ID
Mutiny
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 4:33pm@rg
So you want a record of your purchase of 6000 round so when the government/UN decide that guns must go they know what you have and how much of it?
If gun laws worked Mexico would be a safe place to be. They have some of the strictest gun laws in the world. Chicago has some of the strictest laws in our country and average 40 shootings a weekend. Gun laws only disarm citizens. If a crazy wants to find guns he will. Allow everyone to have guns and crime goes down.
Report Post »turkey13
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 4:36pmWatch what the other hand is doing. Last Sept 19 Obama signed a bill for a British Co.Venda for up to $$100 million to replace the ordering system at the US Mint. Obama heard that the Unions were going to find out that the Brits were coming over to do the job. Now the MInt awarded a second contract in May 2012 to conduct a verification to see if Vendas efforts are taking the Mint ion the right direction. I smell a pay off!
Report Post »Teaparty-grammy
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 5:03pmThe only problem with the POS POTUS lying statement is that AK-47s are not the only guns he wants to grab, now, are they” He wants to ban ALL semi-automatic weapons, which would pretty much include ANY modern handgun, rifle, etc.
It’s so inconvenient when you want to declare yourself “Beloved Leader for Life”, but the population is totin’ guns and stand ready to resist your efforts.
Report Post »DesdemonasCrew
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 5:25pmObama used the AK47 term intentionally, since it has a more powerful antigun reputation than an AR15.
Report Post »saranda
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 7:14pm@model82a1- actually great minds do not think alike. Great minds things think differently. And thank goodness for that.
Report Post »goldmankc
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 8:19pmthe u.n. doesnt want anyone to have guns.
Report Post »obama you forgot to add abortion, and how many young people it kills everyday
Prosecute_Constitutional_Treason_In_Washington
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 8:27pmI do not fear an AK. The body is just a vessal for the soul. To die is to gain. Heaven will make Disney World seem like washing dishes and doing the laundry and that’s everyday. The greater fear is people like Obummer who are leading most souls to hell in this contry.
Report Post »Wolf
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 8:38pmHow about that POS pretenderPOTUS just sit down and shut up and let Americans do what they want without his interfering in our rights to own any weapon we want? Nothing wrong with the AK if a person wants to own one, that’s a decent choice. Or if they want to own a Galil- whose business is it but theirs? Certainly not the government’s. Or if we want to own M-14s or 16s, it‘s none of the government’s business.
Report Post »Of course, all those who think the only reason for owning guns is shooting Bambi won’t agree with this: they think the Second Amendment is about hunting or shooting tin can targets… which appears to be half the commentors here.
Wolfgang the Gray
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 8:42pmAn AK-47 is a full automatic (machine gun) rifle, which this guy didn’t have. AR-15s (like the one used in this crime) is not fully automatic.
Obama’s “Common Sense” gun controls are all too familiar in history. Check out the Genocide Chart on this site. http://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/deathgc.htm
If Obama gets re-elected, he will pull off what little mask he has left and attack our 2nd Amendment rights full bore, including the UN Small Arms Weapons Ban Treaty. http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2012/dc3366.doc.htm
Obama says “But I also believe that a lot of gun owners would agree that AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not in the hands of criminals; that they belong on the battlefield of war, not on the streets of our cities.” This is misleading because he really means anything that looks like an “Assault weapon.” A Ruger 10/22 is considered an “Assault Weapon” by them if a different stock is used.
Obama also said “I believe the majority of gun owners would agree we should do everything possible to prevent … a mentally unbalanced individual should not be able to get his hands on a gun so easily.” Well, the Aurora movie shooter was not previously declared an unbalanced individual. Obama implies that people must go through a mental examination before they are allowed to buy a firearm. Another glimpse of what his future holds.
We are on a very slippery slope and if Obama gets his 4-more years, his oil will pour on the slope of
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 9:03pm@wolfgang
Again, the AK-47 comes in automatic and semi automatic.
Report Post »BpSitRep
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 9:10pmThat’s exactly what I thought when I heard the Socialist In Chief say this today. It was reflective exactly of his beliefs, his teachings, everything…..that is anti American. There was no teleprompter, that was him. He identified with that weapon because of it’s symbolism of World socialism and revolution.
Report Post »dmerwin
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:46pmThank you, Pol Pot junior aka Barack. I prefer an AR platform or a FAL or a Remington 700. I prefer the AK to be the main weapon of the “other guy’s soldiers”. Get a clue. Is this a response to Colorado, where the shooter had an AR platform rifle and a crappy mag?
Report Post »AZindependent
Posted on July 27, 2012 at 12:16am“Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.”
Report Post »~ John Locke
Wake Up Call
Posted on July 27, 2012 at 1:37amObama gives our enemies AK 47′s and then says guns belong in the hands of soldiers not citizens. The aim is to disarm us so his private army that he talked about while campaigning in 2008 can take over without any trouble. It’s always been about the UN anti-gun vote coming up and how better to stir up anti-gun sentiment than arm Mexican drug cartels, have it spill over here and then have some random horrific gun related incidents happen. Chicago has higher gun related incidents than Iraq and Afghanistan do. Pot meet kettle. T
Report Post »Thomas_Jefferson
Posted on July 27, 2012 at 3:33amDidn’t Obama put 1800 assault weapons in the hands of Mexican gangsters.
Report Post »commonsensefreethinker1
Posted on July 27, 2012 at 9:38am@OH,BUMMER
(gun owners would agree that AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not in the hands of criminals; )
Tell that to Eric Holder jacka$$.
Report Post »commonsensefreethinker1
Posted on July 27, 2012 at 9:47amI am just totally blown away that this guy is the president it’s been 3.5 years and I can’t even stand the sound of his voice, just makes the blood flow. JUST CAN’T FLIPPING BELIEVE IT!
Report Post »oinia
Posted on July 27, 2012 at 11:51am@ Encinom,
Yet, you prove the point you’re trying to defeat. “…Legally purchased in other state or at gun shows and brought into the city.”
If the guns used in Chicago were legally purchased elsewhere, why didn’t they stay elsewhere? Why are guns being brought en masse into Chicago, where they’re being used to slaughter the citizens at a record pace????? – MAYBE because Chicago has disarmed its law-abiding citizens with unConstitutional gun restrictions?
If murderers know of a vast population that cannot defend itself against their criminal intentions, there’s a guaranteed crime and murder spree like we now have in Chicago. Gun restriction = unrestrained murder. All statistical records support this – its an undisputed fact. That’s fact, not theory. Fact, not ideology. Fact, not rhetoric. Fact, not propaganda. Fact, reality, truth. Heard of it?
Report Post »pandora
Posted on July 27, 2012 at 12:24pmTook the words right out of my mouth. It shows two things…Obama really is an enemy of the USA, and his knowledge of our military is so non-existent I still cringe when he’s called the commander-in-chief. What a farce.
Report Post »RightThinking1
Posted on July 27, 2012 at 1:10pmYeah, that was my thought also. Of course O. probably has never fired a gun in his life, and thus his understanding of firearms is roughly equivalent to his understanding of economics, or how electric power is generated, or the beauty of a free market system, etc., etc.
Report Post »I would bet anything that his hippy mom would not even allow him to have a popgun.
West Coast Patriot
Posted on July 27, 2012 at 1:50pmDOCGREEN, In answer to your question, it will have to be U.N. Forces as many in our military will take to the side of the people. There are U.N. forces that are and have been training here in the U.S. for a long time. I have said and I will continue to say, we are heading to the brink of war here in our country, and that war will be to try and keep our freedoms. The people are not fully awake yet, as is apparent in their following the establishment reporters on who to vote for this election, but once they do wake up, I believe they will come to the side of Liberty.
Report Post »Evileye
Posted on July 27, 2012 at 2:41pmObumler knowledge of any fire arm is ZERO.
Report Post »First I am not a racist. But who is doing all the shooting?
Not the few screw balls. But the everyday Gang wars in Chicago,Los Angles.And along the borders.
Not Whitey.
rexyloveslilly
Posted on July 27, 2012 at 2:50pmThe IMPOSTOR is lying again: He placed guns on the hands of Mexican drugs Cartel; He is cutting the Military budget to make them weak, and ours enemy STRONG. Obama is doing criminal acts against USA.´He should be behind bars, together with the other criminal Eric Holder.
Report Post »inblack
Posted on July 27, 2012 at 5:51pmWhat a moron Obama is.
Report Post »The_Eye
Posted on July 27, 2012 at 6:54pmI was thinking the same thing. I thought ‘wait, we don‘t use AK47’s…the Soviet Union did though…’ Very telling, Mr.Satero
Further to his points, he has no concept of what the 2nd Amendment is about. “Hunting and shooting” are all secondary concerns. I see nothing in the amendment that says anything about trap shooting. No the amendment is there for when communist globalists try to take over this country and push too far. 2nd Amendment is about tyranny.
Report Post »Finally, no most (law abiding) gun owners wouldn’t agree. Most gun owners would agree that should they come into possession of an AK47 they aren’t going to run down the street shooting people. Most gun owners are patriots and realize that an AK47 would be an effective tool against government tyranny. That is perhaps the real reason he cited that gun given it’s long history of use in toppling governments.
squashbrain
Posted on July 28, 2012 at 12:07amAt least Obama has no problem with my M-4
Report Post »Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on July 28, 2012 at 2:29amThe Russians will be patrolling our streets for our new dickTater Comrade Barry Obama.
Report Post »KICKILLEGALSOUT
Posted on July 28, 2012 at 7:16amI guess Eric Holder didn’t get that memo BamBam. Why has the criminal Eric Holder still not been brought to justice?!
Report Post »FMJGunny
Posted on July 28, 2012 at 9:26amENCINOM,
You apparently know NOTHING of our gun laws. As a degreed gunsmith and someone who worked gun shows for more than seven years, UNLESS YOU LIVE IN A STATE, YOU CAN’T PURCHASE A WEAPON THERE.
And if you purchase a WEAPON THERE under false pretense (say like you give it to one of your GANGSTER BUDDIES) it‘s a ’straw purchase‘ AND THAT’S A FEDERAL FELONY.
So whlat you are saying is criminals are breaking laws, SEVERAL FEDERAL LAWS and then taking them to places like Chicago or New York (again, ANOTHER FEDERAL FELONY – transporting weapons across state lines) and either give or sell them to criminals.
And there in LIES THE TRUTH.
CRIMINALS DO NO CARE WHAT OUR LAWS ARE – THAT’S WHY THEY ARE CRIMINALS
What you want to do is to take away OUR GOD GIVEN RIGHT TO SELF PROTECTION – and just like Obama you think you have the right to take away something that you cannot
Our freedoms
The only thing criminals care taking things away from their lawful owners. Like all liberals, that’s all you care about as well – how you can take something that you did not earn away from a person that did actually earn the right to own it.
Sad, as it speaks volumes.
Oh, and the ‘assualt weapons ban’ did NOT restrict you from purchasing assault weapons. JUST THE MAGAZINES THAT WENT IN THEM.
You truly do not know – and do not care- about the truth
How about you here from a victim of gun crime?
She was AT the Luby Massacre and lost both parents
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johnjamison
Posted on July 31, 2012 at 10:46amIn a Republic EVERY CITIZEN IS A SOLDIER AND EVERY SOLDIER A CITIZEN. For the greatest threat to a nation of free men is GOVE
Report Post »MiCurmudgeon
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:51amNO GUNS should be in the hands of criminals. But how can Oblamer justify Chicago being the “MURDER CAPITAL” with some of the strictest gun laws in the country.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:58amAnd how can Obama justify with such insanity as his blatant and illegal authorization of Fast and Furious? How many other such operations have gone forward, or are even now going forward to supply military grade firearms and such to drug cartels, terror bands, etc?
Report Post »Paulhgreenbay
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:59amExactly!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:01pmHe’s counting on ignorant voters .. and a MSM bought and paid for.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:03pmI believe ERIC HOLDER is a criminal. So what say you Obummer???YOu POS!
Report Post »MEANS2RESIST
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:04pmYes SNOW, this coming from a guy that put those AK’s in the hands of mexican drug gangs
Report Post »Popp40
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:07pmEveryone is failing to realize that those that actually follow the law are the criminals according to this administration and liberals.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:25pmjust allow anyone to have guns and anywhere where everyone has guns people are going to watch themselves carefully.
Report Post »kaydeebeau
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 1:53pmHow could there be a masaacre at the CO theater? There were signs there that said No Guns Allowed. Can’t James Holmes read?
Report Post »SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 2:30pmI suggest he then get those Fast and Furious weapons he supplied to the Black Panthers back.
Report Post »Prosecute_Constitutional_Treason_In_Washington
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 8:30pmJust pushing his UN buddy agenda to take our guns. Obummer is the devils hall of famer. He’s straight from hell with his agenda.
Report Post »papachuck
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:51amHow many of those guns used to kill all of these children on the streets of our cities, are bought from legal sources? These sources will thrive if law abiding people are barred from getting legal arms. Also am I wrong, wasn’t it an AR15 that was used in the CO shootings, not an AK-47? There is a big difference.
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:18pmyes it was an ar15 and our soldiers don’t use ak-47′s. I am so irritated by the leader of the free world after reading this story what kind of commander and chief doesn’t know what weapons his military uses I am beyond annoyed right now the men in my family have been fighting in the US military for 2 generations…that‘s when my family got here via legal immigration and for him to not know we the US military do not use ak’s just puts me over the top this morning. what an uninformed idiot. this coming from the guy that allowed guns to be walked into mexico to end up killing God only knows how many. what an IDIOT! november cannot come fast enough for me please america wake up.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:22pmNearly all. They are legal purchased in states with lax gun laws or at gun shows but so called private sellers that are using the loop hole to sell death to the highest bidder. Than they are transported to the inner city. Virgina guns flood the streets of NYC. The NRA is the largest sponsor of terrorism and has the blood of thousand of Americans on their hands.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:35pmENCIDIOT, like all Lefties, DESPISES any Conservative Group (of PEOPLE) who are able to muster the kind of Lobbying power that their Special Interests do. They HATE the NRA because they have ALMOST as much influence in Washington as, say, The NEA, SEIU, The UAW, The Teamsters and The Sierra Club, just to name a few.
Report Post »Mandors
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:47pmNO, they’re not EnciDORK. They are illegally obtained. Why don’t you leave you career troll?
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 1:18pmYes of course ENCIDIOT/MONICNE/SLEAZY HIPPO..just keep saying “nearly all” and it will be true. Apparently criminals can’t obtain stolen weapons that were LEGALLY purchased. You know..being CRIMINALS and all.
Report Post »No..according to ENCIDIOT..all of a sudden Chicagoans wandered over to neighboring state guns shows, bought the weapons..brought them back and chose to spike the murder rate there by 38%. Perhaps there’s a “tweet” we missed that organized them all to go there together ENCIDIOT? Maybe a “flashmob” scenario where Chicago’s criminals all walked to a neighboring state, purched the guns and went on their year long kiling spree back in Chicago.
You’re an idiot.
Meyvn
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 1:20pmIt was a semi-auto AR15, .223 caliber (pistol version) if I remember correctly. The AK is .30 caliber. Both are considered, for good reason, small arms.
Report Post »TheEDGE
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 1:31pmI‘m thinking it’s a good thing that encidumb is so scared of guns. People with palms as hairy as his would have a hard time getting a good grip on the weapon. It’s a wonder that he is able to post 8 times on one story with that mangled mess getting in the way.
Report Post »Lord_Frostwind
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 1:42pmIt’s somewhat of a misnomer actually. A great number of handguns used on the streets are legally purchased. But they are stolen from the legal purchaser by thieves or family members and are then used to commit crimes. Really, only a complete incompetent would use his own gun to commit a crime. Guns are some of the most high value targets of theft in this country, fences pay high dollar for those.
Then of course you also have to look at violent crime stats. I believe it is a quarter of a percentage point (IE 1/4 of 1%) of gun crime is committed using weapons that fit under the definition of assault weapons (even though the definition is extremely broad and foolish). So basically, you’re talking about focusing on such a small fraction of actual gun crime, and primarily most of those weapons being used by criminals is acquired from foreign sources or from the military.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 1:51pmENCIDIOT..three words for you..FAST AND FURIOUS. 200 Mexcicans and 2 US agents dead as a result of Obama and Holder’s attempt to tighten gun laws in this country.
Report Post »Still..it’s for the people right lefty? You know better..we should just follow and do as we’re told by the limousine liberals and cocooned liberal academics you worship and adore.
Caballosinnombre
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 5:24pmThe encinom person, like most liberals, never cites any references to his so called facts but uses his feelings coupled with hyperbole to convey a false impression. He calls the 2nd Amendment a relic. What about the rest of the constitution? Most were written around the same time period. Are these also relics? If so follow your own rules and be quiet. You have no right to speak here.
Report Post »My Two Cents
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 9:28pmPeople like ENCINOM were made for people like Mao Tse-tung.
Report Post »ChuckHarding
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:50amThere is a *third* group that gun grabbers like Obama always omit from their rhetoric – law abiding, not-criminals, that are not active duty military or LEO. Some of them *may* have been active-duty, but were honorably discharged and since then have been model citizens. Why are their rights to own military equivalent firearms being infringed upon. After all, the purpose of the Second Amendment, besides allowing for hunting and target shooting, was also supposed to be a disincentive for the federal government to perpetrate tyranny on the sovereign citizens of the US, so the arms they were talking about had to be at least as good as what the Army and other military forces had available.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:31pmI am sorry the ancient relic of an amendment mentions “a well regulated militia.” Unless you are currently in a well regulated militia you have no reason to own military styled weapons. Its idiots like yourself, that need these weapons to boost your manhood that are responsible for the lax gun laws and the death of thousands of Americans.
Report Post »Altair
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:56pmThe drivel that oozes out of your mouth causes me to ponder the “ancient relic” status of the 1st Amendment.
But, we both benefit from those “relics.” I bear arms, and you are allowed to embarrass yourself.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 1:26pmThat’s the way ENCIDIOT/MONICNE/SLEAZY HIPPO…what’s a good lefty without trying to erode the constitution? I mean..that‘s really your biggest obstacle preventing you from turning America into France isn’t it? Pesky founding fathers.
Report Post »Balthazor
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 1:36pmencinom, we are all part of that well-regulated militia. The definition of militia used by the writers of the 2nd Amendment, and the definition still used by the federal government today, is all able-bodied men over the age of 18. Well, let me amend my comments, perhaps you aren‘t part of that militia as you’re likely a 13 year old sissy-boy.
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 1:38pm@Encinom
“Unless you are currently in a well regulated militia you have no reason to own military styled weapons. ”
I AM a well regulated militia. (There’s a t-shirt in there somewhere….)
If you fear the guns then you have a basic misunderstanding of the problem; the society that Liberalism (current definition) creates IS the cause of the violence, not the solution to it…
Report Post »TexasHunter
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 4:04pmENCIMON ONE MILLION SPERM and some how you made it? Wow miracles really do happen. Your the one that would offer a thief/crook/killer a cup of tea if he broke in your house or try to reason with him!! Man your mom really should have swallowed.
Report Post »MN NICE
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 5:56pm@Encinom – I’m a part of a militia, too (force composed of ordinary citizens)… And as far as “shouldn’t be allowed to have military style weapons” – besides owning modern firearms, we own a number of muzzle loaders/muskets (similar to what was used in the American Revolution) that are just as deadly as the scary looking military style weapons you’re touting about… IT’S NOT THE FIREARMS OR THE GUN SHOWS THAT ARE THE PROBLEM!!
Report Post »FMJGunny
Posted on July 28, 2012 at 9:33amENCINOM
Once again, how about you listen to a VICTIM OF GUN CRIME?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1u0Byq5Qis
That lady was AT the Luby Massacre and lost both her parents. How about you stop talking and watch what she has to say about gun control.
AND NO, she’s not for it. And NO, the Second Amendment is NOT about hunting or just shooting, it about protecting us from OUR GOVERNMENT AND OTHER CRIMINALS AND LIBERALS LIKE YOU
Report Post »Silversmith
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:50amThe only people you can take a gun away from through legislation are law abiding citizens. You will not affect the criminal community. You can only make the general population more vulnerable to criminals and the government – but then, under this regime, I am being redundant.
Silversmith
Report Post »Caballosinnombre
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:49amA semi-automatic AK-47 is no more dangerous than any other semi-automatic hunting rifle. Its not the gun its the person behind the trigger that should matter. Fully automatic weapons are legal only in the military, unless you have a special permit, as far as I know. Mr. Obama is dishing out the same ole B.S. his liberal base uses. Big freakin surprise.
Report Post »TMink
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:54amGood point. Also, there is another group in America, we are not soldiers, we are not criminals, we are CITIZENS! We are fine with criminals not having so called “assault rifles.” Put criminals in jail, problem solved. Obama is not interested in taking guns away from criminals, he is interested in taking guns away from citizens.
Trey
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:54amCABALL, When Obama says “AK-47″ he knows good and well that @90% of ALL Americans (and 100% of his idiot voters) think ONLY of the full-auto variety that they see in the movies. They have no idea that a semi-auto version even exists.
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:57amAnd weapons sales are up big time…I recall when Clinton first shut it off and the lines were long at the gun shops.
Report Post »AlcoholicMB
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:05pmFULLY AUTOMATIC WEAPONS ARE LEGAL (except in NJ and some New England states).
Research, damnit. It took me all of 5 seconds to research all gun laws in my state. I’m tired of seeing misinformation and downright ignorance proliferated on this subject.
Right now, I can go to any gun store and order a fully automatic AK-47 from anywhere in the US. I just have to have the gun store fax their FFL license to the manufacturer and pay an extra $200 for the federal checks. THAT’S IT. $200 bucks extra is all it takes. No special license, no special courses you have to take, just $200 for the background checks. Research. Inform yourself.
Report Post »Dismayed Veteran
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:15pmNo weapon is dangerous. The person using it is dangerous. A thought. How many veterans are there? Each of them has been trained to be dangerous. No wonder they call us terrorists. We have the capability to be extremely dangerous.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:17pmALCOHOL, $200, “that’s it”, huh? How about spending MORE than “5 Seconds” doing your “research”. Here is a partial list of what is necessary to APPLY to purchase a fully automatic weapon:
Report Post »Instructions
1 Complete an ATF Form 4 (5320.4). The transferor, the one transferring or selling the automatic weapon and the transferee, the one receiving or buying the automatic weapon, must both complete sections of this form. The “Law Enforcement Certification” section must also be signed by the head of the local law enforcement, which is often the sheriff.2Include a 2 by 2-inch photograph of the transferee on each copy of the ATF form. This must be taken within the last year and include the transferee’s address. This address cannot be a post office box.
3 Submit a fingerprint on FBI Form FD-258. This must be done by someone who is approved to take them, such as the police department. The fingerprints are accompanied by a photograph and a certificate which states that the individual seeking to obtain the automatic weapon has no justifiable reason that prevents them from obtaining an automatic weapon.
4 Check your local and state guidelines. If your area requires a permit or license to buy, receive or possess an automatic weapon you must send in a copy of the transferee’s license or permit with the application and a $200 tax payment.
5 Send the completed form and proper tax payment to Bureau of ATF, P.O. Box 73201, Chicago, IL 60673. If you are approved to obtain an auto
feekes
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:40pmAlcoholicMB, you need to posses at least a class II license to convert a semi auto rifle into and full auto, and then you have to bring it in to a class III deal and have it registered and then pay the fee. It is not as simple as you make it out to be with “$200 bucks extra is all it takes”
Report Post »Personally I have no desire to have a fully automatic rifle, waste too much ammo, but I do not wish to restrict the rights of the individual to own one. The second amendment is there for militia and protection of a growing tyrannical government. If the “tyrant” is better armed than the civilian what chance do they have to defend their liberty.
Criminals will always get the weapon they want, they merely have to ask the right person. Perhaps Holder.
encinom
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:46pmThe 2nd Amendment has killed thousand of innocent Americans, yet we have had ZERO tyrants in our history. If the gun laws can’t be changed by this relic of an amendment, than the amendment has to be revoked.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:56pmWow, ENCIDIOT, I‘m actually starting to think you’re just joking because I, personally cannot comprehend that level of Stupidity. Now the “Second Amendment” is “killing people”???? And, let me guess, in your rotted, pea-brain Roe v. Wade has never “killed” anyone, right?
Report Post »FLCommonSense
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 1:25pmAlcoholicMB You forgot the 6-9 month wait from the ATF while they check your background. NOT a fast process at all so NO, you cannot just go purchase an automatic weapon with an extra $200 today. Research complete.
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 1:33pm@ENCINOM
“The 2nd Amendment has killed thousand of innocent Americans, yet we have had ZERO tyrants in our history. ”
And you can’t even connect two of your own thoughts expressed in one sentence?
Irony rules…
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 1:42pmENCIDIOT..three words for you champ. FAST AND FURIOUS. Yeah..Eric Holder allowed guns into the hands of criminals UNCHECKED in order to use it to enact his and Obama’s anti-gun agenda.
Report Post »How’d that work out for you champ? Oh yeah..Obama sealed the DOJ records from congress.
You‘re a pious little creep aren’t you ENCIDIOT/MONICNE/SLEAZY HIPPO?
Raven249
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 4:02pm@ Encicom
1) The AK-47 is a rifle, not machinegun, originally made for the Soviet Red Army, an enemy of our. Since the collapse, it has become the staple rifle of our current enemies in the Middle East. It isn’t quite as accurate as say, an M-16, but it is far lower maintenance, and fires a larger 7.62mm round.
2) The shooter used an AR-15, which is a civilian variant of the M-16, and fires a 5.56mm NATO round, one of the smallest rifle cartridges in existence.
3) The 2nd amendment is what gives the Constitution its teeth. It is WHY we haven’t had a tyrant, because if one were to arise, we the people would shoot him full of hot lead.
4) If gun control works, tell me how criminals actually care about what the law says. They’re criminals. And why is it you rarely hear about shootings at gun ranges, where EVERYBODY has a gun, sometimes more than one?
5) The militia is every able-bodied man of age. Back then, it meant 16-17, because kids had to mature faster. Now, that age is 18. The Founders didn‘t think that there’d be so many people so ignorant, foolish, or just plain stupid as to have such a potentially dangerous tool and not have the sense to use it responsibly. That’s why shooting someone back then got you hung. Now, our laws of punishment are more lax, and the penalty for abusing your right to bear arms is no longer a sufficient deterrent. They had human nature in mind, not human inventions, when they wrote the Constitution. Human nature doesn’t chang
Report Post »Teaparty-grammy
Posted on July 27, 2012 at 1:50am@ Encinom, who posted: “The 2nd Amendment has killed thousand of innocent Americans, yet we have had ZERO tyrants in our history. If the gun laws can’t be changed by this relic of an amendment, than the amendment has to be revoked.”
Within your own argument you provide the ultimate rebuttal — “yet we had ZERO tyrants in our history.” Did it ever occur to you, you ignorant little troll, you, that we have had ZERO tryants in our history BECAUSE of that “relic of an amendment”? If you had ever read an actual history book, you would KNOW that the FIRST action of a totalitarian regime is to disarm the populace so they cannot resist the tyranny to come, and understand that the founding fathers intended for us to be armed, ready and ABLE to resist tyranny whenever it rears its ugly head.
Report Post »hifi74
Posted on July 27, 2012 at 6:58pmENCINOM,
Wow I have heard some monuMENTALLY (fitting for you and your type) stupid stuff come from you here but this one has got to be the most epic and genuinely moronic thing you have said yet. The second amendment needs to be revoked??? What are you high? That is a God given right and only someone as stupid as you would EVER argue a complete removal of the amendment that guarantees our right to protect our self from an overbearing government. And while I am thinking about it you nonsensical ignorant twit, your supposition that those firearms the “criminals” have in Chicago are all bought legally, if you think that is true then you need to go get your head examined. Criminals do not obey the law, that’s why they are called criminals you dope. What in Gods name makes you think that making more and more restrictive gun laws is going to stop them from obtaining guns illegally? IT WON’T YOU BUFFOON. Instead we need to allow the legal citizens the ability to arm themselves from the likes of criminals and gang bangers and most of the problems will disappear. I live outside of Chicago and can assure you that the gun laws there are more restrictive then almost anywhere else in the US and what good has it done? I’ll tell you, NONE! Get a life you crank.
Report Post »Puddle Duck
Posted on July 27, 2012 at 7:22pmFrom Encinomunists view point the revocation of the 2nd amendment is critical in order to restrict and possibly strike down the 1st.
The key to actually transforming the nation lies in the deliberate undermining of the right to bear arms and after that has been accomplished the right to free speech can be “controlled” by the Feds. Disarm the people and keep them in the dark (about the truth) and you have the makings of a “new regime” NWO what have you.
Upholding the Bill of Rights and the Constitution today has never had more relevance or meaning…the situation we find ourselves in with clear enemies within, well organized and funded, at many levels of power (in private and public sectors) is very similar in many respects to the birth of the declaration back in 1776. WE litteraly are at a crucial crossroads folks……which will it be, Freedom (true freedom as it was intended) or Tyranny ?
Report Post »FMJGunny
Posted on July 28, 2012 at 9:42amALCOHOLICMB,
Can you purchase a full auto AK-47? LEGALLY? Yes you can.
YOU must be rich though, because a cr@ppy version of one is well over $10k. A NICE ONE? $15K – $20k and above.
So, yes you can. But that‘s NOT what’s at issue here. The liberals want ALL our guns. They start with the made up term ‘assault weapons’ and then go to single shot, pistols, etc.
But all the LIBERALS know that cannot ‘control the population with out putting gun control in place first.
Just like Adolf Hitler did in 1938, before he rounded up 20 million people and sent them to ‘the camps’ and from there to ‘the chambers’.
Those who don’t study history tend to repeat it.
The last government that thought they could do that here? Well after the WAR WAS OVER, we were free. That’s where this is going.
Freedom is not free. It costs ‘your lives and your sacred honor’.
Report Post »brotherkasey
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:49amIt was an AR-15, not an AK-47, Obama. Get your facts straight…wait, you never get the facts straight because it doesn’t fit your agenda. And our right to keep and bear arms has nothing to do with hunting if you even bothered to read the 2nd ammendment. Being a “constitutional scholar”, I would expect you to know that
Report Post »“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
Nothing about hunting here. It’s about keeping a FREE STATE!
SamIamTwo
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:55amHe can’t…he’s a fruitcake.
Report Post »Watchingtheweasels
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:57amYou are absolutely right brotherkasey. While hunting, sport shooting, and self defense are all worthy and protected uses of firearms the primary reason for the second amendment is to arm the American citizen well enough that he or she can forcible resist the armies of tyrants. This is why would be tyrants on the left hate it so much.
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:20pm@brotherkasey: You speak the truth.
Report Post »korbin
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:49amSo why don‘t they take them from criminal’s? they can’t only the legal gun owners pay the price for knee jerk responses to these types of shootings, how many legal gun owners are killing people in Chicago, LA, Detroit? will they ever get it?
Report Post »1proudAmerican
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:54amSadly, they never will get it.
Report Post »US-First
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:05pmSO I just have to say it. The Co shooter legally had his guns. That is not to go against what you are saying only how you are saying it. Enforce the laws on the books (not just gun laws) otherwise criminals are free, have guns and use guns.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:49amThere’s that old Straw Man AGAIN. AK47′s (and all other fully-automatic weapons) are ALREADY illegal for ordinary citizens to own. But, when your voters are idiots, you’re free to treat them as such.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:09pmHow wide a defintition would Obama create for ‘assault rifles”? Wide enought to sail an aircraft carrier through.
Report Post »netmarcos
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:17pmBut only because “normal citizens” have not bothered to apply for a class II FFL.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:34pmActually, since W. allowed the assault weapons ban to lapse, their is no restrictions on the types of guns one can purchase.
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:37pmNET, That’s why I qualified my statement. Good job noticing!
Report Post »MODEL82A1
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:41pmENCIDIOT wrote: “Actually, since W. allowed the assault weapons ban to lapse, their is no restrictions on the types of guns one can purchase.”
Report Post »And the sky is red, the grass is purple and 2+2=95. How much COMPLETELY, PROVABLY untrue excrement are able to swallow with NO curiosity whatsoever?
Mutiny
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 1:02pmAk-47 isnt always full automatic. Aks are sold every day in this country in the semi automatic form. They provide more power than the ar-15 with less accuracy.
Obama is using the ak-47 as the boogie man gun. People associate it with Russia and terrorism so he is going to use to drum up support for outlawing assault weapons.
Guns are going to be banned in this country. We have a president who has always been against guns and a GOP nominee who has always been against guns. Once they have the guns we lose all the rest of our freedom. It has happened through out history. People ignorant to history are ones who keep voting for the lesser of two evils and ruining our country.
Report Post »bumfuzeled
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 3:21pm@insane.um The assault weapons ban lapsing does not many anyone can buy any weapon. If you are trying to salvage any credibility, get your facts strait. No law abiding citizen can legally purchase ANY type of fully automatic weapon. Only those holding Class 3 licenses can trade those guns and they are closely regulated by the FBI and Homeland Security along with ATF. Enough government agencies for you? Likewise no citizen can buy mortars, rockets, grenades or heavy arms without special licensing and oppressive government oversight. So educate yourself about weapons and the laws concerning them. Them come back to talk to the adults
Report Post »FMJGunny
Posted on July 28, 2012 at 9:50amBUMFUZELED,
UM, actually any citizen CAN purchase any full automatic weapon. YOU have to live in a state where you are ALLOWED to own them (NY and ILL are not one of those), but in MOST states you can purchase them. You have to have the money (they are getting to be VERY expensive) and you have to fill out a long form, get it signed by your Sheriff and that with a set of prints is sent on to the ATF, where it can take upwards of six months.
BUT YES, in most states in this country (not all) you CAN LEGALLY PURCHASE, OWN AND SHOOT A FULL AUTOMATIC WEAPON.
One of my wife’s favorite weapons is the Thompson Submachine gun. We used to rent them when we went to a specific range. They were for sale. A BAD COPY was $30k with a NICE EXAMPLE selling for well over $50k…
Just gotta live in a state that allows it.
Report Post »GeorgeWashingtonslept here
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:49amHey Obama! Most Americans might agree that AK47‘s shouldn’t be in the hands of criminals……but this is the REAL damned world. Even if you try to outlaw them, the CRIMINALS do not follow the law. So that would leave good law abiding citizens on an uneven playing field…….I personally own an AR 15. And I’m a woman. ……………………I live rural and no thanks, I need shooting power………Nov. 2012., please America!…………..
Report Post »adouglass1
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:43pmWell good luck stay safe im stuck in Commiefornia due to my businesses but would love to live somewhere rural and safer.
Report Post »encinom
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:47pmHey idiot, its the lax gun laws that allow criminals to legally purchase these weapons in the first place.
Report Post »SquidVetOhio
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 1:00pmYea because the laws against having cocaine has completely stopped the use of cocaine it this country. The laws against speeding has stopped speeding too. Both of those things kill more people than guns do. My right to own a gun comes from God, not a politician. I will die to defend it. So if or anyone else wants to take them, good luck with that.
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 1:23pm@encinom: Listen moron… Anyone with half a brain could build their own gun if they were not available for purchase. Get a fkn clue please.
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 1:30pm@encinom: You may even have the intelligence required to make one. Although your common sense suffers immensely.
Report Post »THX-1138
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 1:31pm@ENCINOM
“I’ll give up my gun when everybody else does…”
- Ice-T
Deal?
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 1:52pmHow lax were the gun laws for FAST AND FURIOUS ENCIDIOT?
Report Post »HorseCrazy
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 10:51pmI also am a woman with an ar15. nice to know other women have good taste in guns. cannot wait for the election to get this clown out of the whitehouse
Report Post »Puddle Duck
Posted on July 27, 2012 at 7:52pmGood for you Gals, perosnally I like the M1A.
Report Post »brovet
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:48amThis is a Constitutional professor? He is so ignorant of why the Second Amendment came to be! Our Founding Fathers had just fought a war to be free of a ruler who was a tyrant. The Second Amendment was included because there was no guarantee the the Republic they were creating, might at some time in the future, become opressive and the citizens needed weapons to overthrow the oppresive government. It had nothing to do with hunting or sportmen (that is clear BS).
Report Post »CatB
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:00pmI think he is counting on enough uneducated (public school) willing to give up the right to defend themselves from the GOVERNMENT. The way things are going .. I think we the people need our own drones also!
OMG 2012 …. LIBERTY!
Report Post »justangry
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:26pmYeah, I’m not a huge fan of Harvard Law School. They seem to have a warped view of constitutinalism. (Hey to Romney) And did you know they’re represented at the CFR? Hmmmm….
Report Post »jvlag3
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:47amI agree…now figure out how to get the guns out of the hands of the criminals and leave everyone else alone.
Report Post »AlcoholicMB
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:47amIt’s common sense to wannabe fascists and the global elite that only soldiers should have automatic weapons, because the soldiers work for them. Armed, intelligent citizenry are the only deterrent to despotism.
Did you know that most states allow the purchase and ownership of fully automatic weapons? Don‘t believe the outright lies you’ve been told.
Report Post »scrapadapolis
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:47amAK47s in the hands of military?Our troops don’t use AK47s.But they do in the muslim world.Is that another slip of the tonge,Mr President?
Report Post »The-Monk
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:55amYou beat me to it. I was going to say the same thing.
Report Post »thegreatcarnac
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:46amShut up..obama. Who is a criminal to you? Is it the regular guy on the street that did not vote for you and believes in the 2nd amendment. Many (including me) American citizens have AK’s and other such weapons and they have shot no one with them. Quit simplifiying the 2nd amendment……kenyan. The 2nd amendment allows the citizenry to own weapons to fight it’s on government if necessary when that government becomes a tyranny. Kind’a like now.
Report Post »korbin
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:46amBill O and Obama need to educate themselves. Neither have a clue, I guess he had to weigh in just before the UN votes to allow Iran to implement GUN CONTROL in the US. He an idiot.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:02pmTwo of a kind both spin spin lies
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:39pmI never thought, being a past fan of Bill O’Reilly, that I would put him and Obama in the same bag. I guess things change. I DO NOW!
Report Post »DLV
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 10:08pmI still am a fan of Bill, because he moslty says the truth but he is just SO SO SO WRONG on this issue.
Report Post »rusooperman
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:46amCan you guarantee me that the streets of America won’t become the “battlefield”? No? I will keep my guns thank you.
Report Post »Bill Rowland
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:17pmI’ll not only keep mine but will keep a good supply of ammunition and practice frequently. I will also encourage my children and grandchildren to own guns and to know how to use them. They all grew up around a houseful of guns and learned gun safety and safe gun handling from a young age.
OMG Nov 6, 2012
Report Post »Meyvn
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 12:41pmRight on Rowland! BTW, if you’re from KY we may know each other.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:46amWhat a liar. He’s a POS he and holder sold guns through fast and furious to known Criminals. Both should be setting in jail now for it.
Report Post »KidCharlemagne
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:45amJames Madison made it crystal clear in Federalist #46:
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Report Post »“Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of. Notwithstanding the military establishments in the several kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far as the public resources will bear, the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. And it is not certain, that with this aid alone they would not be able to shake off their yokes. But were the people to possess the additional advantages of local governments chosen by themselves, who could collect the national will and direct the national force, and of officers appointed out of the militia, by these governments, and attached both to them and to the militia, it may be affirmed with the greatest assurance, that the throne of every tyranny in Europe would be speedily overturned in spite of the legions which surround it.”
Puddle Duck
Posted on July 27, 2012 at 8:06pmAnd the leftists call this sound reasoning (especially so considering the world still contains many regimes which oppress their people through the use of fear and force) archaic ? If anything the wisdom from the founders is just as relevant (and timeless) today as it was in 1776.
Report Post »bpodlesnik
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:45amFrom what I have read, Holmes did not use an Ak-47, nor did he have a criminal background. A quick look at his past shows he was a kid who loved science. He lost it though, and went all crazy in a short period of time. No gun control is going to prevent something like this. The dude just went insane.
Report Post »LeadNotFollow
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:44am…
Report Post »Mr. Obama, please explain “FAST and FURIOUS”.
Why did our Government put automatic weapons into the hands of our enemies and criminals?
ComradeAdam
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 2:35pm‘ Fast and Furious’ only put guns into the hands of the peaceful, law-abidding citizens of Mexico’s drug cartels. Not one of them is a threat to the power take over. Those that believe in the Constitution, that they have individual rights and are not property of the government are the real threat. You fear the people you are working against the most, not the ones on your side.
Report Post »SamIamTwo
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:43amNah they don’t want AK47s dood. You know nothing Obama!!!
Report Post »Redwood Elf
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 2:15pm“Assault Rifles” are for wimps. REAL Americans want one of these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLKQHmTa6C0
Report Post »Mr. H.
Posted on July 27, 2012 at 2:47pmThat’s Jessie James with a chain gun. That was one very expensive bit of fun! He’s rich enough to blow $10K -$20K on a minute gun fun. Somehow I doubt that is his gun though.
I sure would like to have just what they spent on ammo.
Report Post »hcombs
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:43amIf we include the unorganized militia as “soldiers” then I can go with that.
Report Post »“The reserve militia or unorganized militia, also created by the Militia Act of 1903 which presently consist of every able-bodied man of at least 17 and under 45…” Mr. president, give me my AK-47!
justangry
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:42amOf course ex-soldiers are to viewed as terrorists in your eyes, you gave guns to drug cartels, you’re arming unknown Muslims that just love the west, …. Funny how mass murdering war criminals always want to take guns away from non mass murdering war criminals.
Report Post »obersaber
Posted on July 26, 2012 at 11:40amWhat about “fast and furious”? Obama still has his own mess to clean up.
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