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Obama: America ‘Would Not be a Great Country’ Without All Our Entitlements

You know the roughly 150 years before Roosevelt‘s New Deal and Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society? Well, if you ask Barack Obama, America was just so-so during that time.

During his budget speech at George Washington University yesterday, Obama said that it’s only because of government entitlements that America became a great country. CNS News has the transcript and video:

“‘There but for the grace of God go I,’ we say to ourselves, and so we contribute to programs like Medicare and Social Security, which guarantee us health care and a measure of basic income after a lifetime of hard work; unemployment insurance, which protects us against unexpected job loss; and Medicaid, which provides care for millions of seniors in nursing homes, poor children, and those with disabilities,” Obama said. “We are a better country because of these commitments. I’ll go further – we would not be a great country without those commitments.”

Editor’s note: For Stu‘s take on Obama’s remarks, click here.

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  • i want the truth
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:48am

    No I do not think he is a socialist.
    lmao What a complete liar. And a disgrace to the human man. If you do not like the Constitution my enemy get OUT! We will be a country with no Freedoms!! If he keeps on going!! Where are the Demacraps that actually believe in Freedoms and the Constitution to tell this Admisnistration to Shove it!

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    • leary1
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 5:06pm

      they are all cowering in the corner, where else .

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  • flamegonesilver
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:47am

    Entitlements is NOT the reason why is country is GREAT!
    Prez. Obama doesn‘t have a FREAKIN’ CLUE!!!
    NO-OBAMA 2012!

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  • Ronko
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:47am

    Wrong Entitlements are bad and they are killing us slowly every day.

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  • commonsensesue
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:46am

    …and BO thinks the “average citizen” doesn”t benefit from itemizing tax deductions like mortgage interest and charitable giving..??????? My husband and I are RETIRED and we itemize…we deduct those two particular things! What a jackass…he doesn’t even have a concept of WHO are average citizens!!!!!!

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  • trev4srs
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:46am

    I’m thinking we need a dave ramsey in the white-house. Someone that believes in hard-work and dedication while using common sense. Not someone who believes in taking from hard workers and giving to those that don’t. We need all take responsibility and teach each other and our children how to be accountable for themselves and let the church and other charitable organizations “which most of us already give to” let them back in the fold to take care of the needy and less fortunate. Stop creating a generation of people who feel like they are owed something.

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    • Anteraan
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 11:52pm

      That’s exactly who we need in the White House. Let’s start with his most basic concept: If you don’t have the cash to pay for it, you can’t afford it.

      We’ll work from there.

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  • leary1
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:46am

    This is pure B.S. teach people to stand on their own not depend on gov. for handouts,that is what makes America Great. Scale down gov. involvement, size and spending that will get the wheels moving again.

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  • obama_binpharteen
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:45am

    Is it just me, or am I the only one who feels like they’ve been in a nightmare for the last 2 1/2 years desperately trying to wake up?

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  • suedstate
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:45am

    I say BS Obama, it WAS a great country before your ilk started changing it into a welfare state.
    When I was growing up it was not nice to be on welfare, it was a hand UP until you got on your feet and could make it on your own.
    Today it’s a way of life passed from generation to generation, DEMS. have not helped the impoverished thay have just kept them enslaved in do nothing entitlement lifestyle with them expecting more and more until the people working can’t support it anymore, that Mr.Presedent is Marxist/Communism, why do you think all these socialist countries are going broke, because eventually you run out of other peoples money.
    Never thought I would live to see a president in this country so intent of destroying it.
    God Bless and save the USA

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  • Realist
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:42am

    I concur with Felina who is this guys speech maker he has bombed on every occasion which is fine with me since he is a teflon president, but you would think that being the first President created through 100% marketing he would fire his marketing team when the message stopped working

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  • Banshee34
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:41am

    He was obviously brainwashed at a very early age to actually believe the crap that comes out of his mouth.

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    • WIjoyzie
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 7:30pm

      On top of being brainwashed as a kid… he was further indoctrinated in college… where no doubt he took NO math, econ101 or history classes.

      Imagine him thinking entitlements made America strong… didn’t he ever hear about the Depression when strong individuals kept going regardless of dire conditions. Didn’t he ever hear about the men and women who served in WWII and the atrocities those folks survived; then came home to grow the strongest economy in the world.

      What did he take at Haaavard… basket-weaving and diversity training?

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  • miles from nowhere
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:41am

    This is the SOROS puppet and he is only told to follow the evil Soros instructions, destroy the US. Soros controls the Democrat Party and all the like minded liberal anarchist. they are doing everything in there power to take away the freedoms in this country and drive it into the ground.

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  • Meyvn
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:39am

    What a pathetic, lame statement.

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  • StevenL1955
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:39am

    I want to start a new Entitlements Program, thats right, I am a conserative yet want a new one, it will be called the Early Presidential Retirment Fund. if we collect enough money we can buy out his contract and send him back home. Problem is we don’t know where he was born.

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  • Eblaze44
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:35am

    He’s absolutely correct – but – it would be a much, much greater country without all the entitlements and people went to work for a living and Americans would buy American made, non-union, goods.

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  • IAMMADDOG
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:34am

    Time for the Obama’s to go on welfare…..in some OTHER country.

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  • mrsmileyface
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:33am

    Wow! I feel like im in a time warp. I was actually waiting for Jimmy Carter to step out of his “Obama suit” durring this abomination of a speech.

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    • cktheman
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 11:41am

      Carter was actually stupid and naive. Obama is malicious in his intent. It’s a morph of Wilson/FDR/Johnson/Carter and selected marxists. He’s not communist, in out traditional view of communism – he‘s a Marxist who believes Marxism just hasn’t been implemented correctly – despite overwhelming evidence it can never be implemented successfully.

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    • BetterDays
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 1:28pm

      I expect he shall proclaim he is GOD soon.

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  • UlyssesP
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:33am

    Barry, you are a dumb azz.

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    • kickagrandma
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:57am

      @ULYSSESP ~~~ Agreed and will raise you one “lying sos”.

      My parents taught me better than that.

      What I wanted to write is even worse.

      I have had it with this fake, this satanic oaf.

      So,

      JESUS GOD, forgive my anger against this man and all his comrades. JESUS, thank YOU that YOU have allowed us to reap our reward, which was to too often choose the wrong way rather than YOUR way. Thank YOU that YOU are bringing us to our knees and that YOU are allowing us one more time to wake up and to get it right, which means we follow YOU.

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  • LikesToFightGuy
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:32am

    i dont even know where to begin…dude seams to be messed up on every level

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  • Bundy
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:32am

    Can we make it another two years?

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    • BetterDays
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 12:07pm

      No.
      No we can’t .
      No, we won’t.
      No, because Obama and his minions aren’t planning to let it go to another election.
      No, because every union, ever socialist group, and every radical group are planning organized professes’s running from May 1st. Until May 21st.. Marshall law will follow on those protests heals.

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    • psst
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 12:12pm

      No.

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  • 13th Imam
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:32am

    America won’t be A country soon, with all these entitlements.

    My wife and I worked and were Actual Taxpayers for 40 years , and what have we actually gotten from the Federal Gubberment

    1. A Great Military

    2. Crappy Interstates

    3 We are Unqualified for any entitlements, . Who are “ those people” that have gotten all these vaunted entitlements? ACORN,, Drug Addicts, Etc

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  • miles from nowhere
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:31am

    This president needs to be IMPEACHED, the sooner the better.

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  • MikeinIdaho
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:30am

    Of course he’d say that! What self-respecting marxist wouldn’t? He’s a traitor and a disgusting human being.

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  • felina g
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:30am

    Who actually writes this drivel ?

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    • Obama Bin Lying
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:40am

      I think his teleprompter must have a URL of http://www.great_divider.ru (russian server for those who are not computer savy). Or it is a direct ethernet cable to the Polit bureau

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    • Oh, God!
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:42am

      Biden?

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    • J.C. McGlynn
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:43am

      George Soros and Van Jones.

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    • REETZBEE
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 12:02pm

      Obama can’t even give the speech written for him with a straight face. What’s with all the annoying facial expressions?

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    • kryptonite
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 1:45pm

      @REETZBEE
      Lately, he loses his place in the script, stops for several seconds to refocus, then fumbles when he gets back on script. If you asked him afterwards, he wouldn’t be able to tell you what he just read. Affirmative action hoax.

      Thank goodness I no longer have to listen to O’Reilly say that Obum is a smart guy.

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  • vidyohs
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:30am

    And people are still denying that the man is a collectivist, a communist at heart.

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    • Thatsitivehadenough
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:57am

      What’s even worse, too many of them think communism/socialism (communism light) is o.k. Ever since the left made it politically incorrect to suspect any American of being a subversive communist, they’ve been chipping away at our freedoms and wealth. We need to turn that thinking around. And soon.

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    • Gold Coin & Economic News
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 11:02am

      Amazingly, many people think he is exactly what the country needs. But with clueless speeches such as this one, more and more people are jumping ship.

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    • walkwithme1966
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 12:53pm

      I believe that in the Bible, Christ said “if you do it to the least of my brothers, you do it unto me” – the quote is not totally correct but you get the picture. Plus we pay into Medicare and Social Security and both our employers and us pay into Unemployment Insurance. What do we do about children who are sick and live in poverty, the elderly who before Social Security and Medicare were mostly living in poverty? What do we do about the disabled who can not work? There are some people that society expects us to care for and that makes America the great country that it is. http://maboulette.wordpress.com

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    • BetterDays
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 1:25pm

      Walk with me:
      You twist scripture to a teaching of man, the bible warns about people like you.
      The christian responsibility to care for the less fortunate is and always will be an individual christians responsibility under GOD. A mandate by a State which dictates to whom the recipient is, and takes it in the form of a withholding then disperses it as the State desires negates the individuals control over the act of kindness. Therefor the act is accredited to a State and not an individual, and of no effect in the eyes of GOD in reference to an individual. For the act of giving is NOT from a loving heart but from a DEMANDED participation, in other words the State is playing Robin Hood and Robin Hood is a thief.

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    • thepatriotdave
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:08pm

      walkwithme1966
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 12:53pm
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      You are falling for the mumbo-jumbo the marxists/progressives want you to. NOBODY is talking about getting rid of, or destroying Medicare or SS. What is being discussed is F-I-X-I-N-G them, not getting rid of them. If SS and other programs connected to it goes broke (almost at that point) then nobody get’s anything. Then you have people dying from no care etc. So do we keep charging towards our own destruction and destroying programs for our children, or do we fix the problem???

      Most honest Americans would vote to FIX THE PROBLEM.

      Be a part of “the” grassroots Tea Party event of 2011, with all 50 state’s Tea Party and 9.12 groups attending… http://www.americasteapartynews.com/freedomjamboree.php

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  • TSUNAMI-22
    Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:29am

    I’m thinking of a finger! ~rubbing my temples in a circular motion~

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    • BetterDays
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:37am

      I’m thinking of fingers one on each hand, and I‘m also thinking America would be a greater place if she hadn’t any socialist’s.
      NOBAMA 2012

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    • Obama Bin Lying
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:38am

      I think the finger I would use would convey all my sentiments

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:41am

      I know America is a GREAT NATION and the GREATEST IN THE WORLD.

      This loser of a POTUS has no clue as to what greatness really is; he only seeks to force his views and those of Soros and the progressives unto us all. They feel only the elites have the right and the mandate to rule the masses who have no idea what they need.

      Obama fails to get it, Roosevelt declared a ‘day of infamy’ after the pearl harbor attack. Obama and his progressive cronies are infamy defined and personified.

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    • J.C. McGlynn
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:42am

      What Obummer and the rest of the communists that follow him forget is before these entitlements, with the taxes that go with them, America had the largest middle class in the world. Thanks to the commie thugs in Washington and through out the nation the middle class has been taxed out of existence.

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    • conversationcanwork
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:44am

      Yep, Reagan had nothing at all to do with the death of the middle class. Try reading and listening to both sides. It helps.

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    • hersey10
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:45am

      I respect his opinion but it’s VERY VERY misguided and wrong .

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    • 13th Imam
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:49am

      Barry said in his Wednesday Economic Declaration that only the Wealthy use the Mortgage Interest Deduction. This means that the large middle class ( Whites) do not own their own home. Everyone should start using a local barter system and keep any money out of the hands of this thief in DC. For an idiot that has never had a real job (including his no-show job wife ), how the heck can anyone follow this scumbag Communist

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    • Gold Coin & Economic News
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:56am

      Mao Zedong wanted to give plenty of rice to everyone so he tore down houses and put everyone in communes so they could “contribute” their labor to the collective. Only one problem, he completely ignored basic economic principles and 45 MILLION people died in famine as a result.

      No one is “contributing” to Medicare and Social Security, our money is being stolen from us at gun point, we are trillions in debt and there isn‘t any solution to the problem except to say that we haven’t “contributed” enough.

      Will millions in this country have to die before the progressives figure out what a failure their socialist entitlement agenda really is?

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    • GODSAMERICA
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:57am

      These goons steal our money and then tell us that we are better because of it? I think that these people (sorry for insulting all real people out there) would be better off being put in prison for a minimum of a hundred years apiece with nothing but bread and water to eat and drink for the rest of their lives. They are not fit to be around a real human being, I am beginning to feel like Bin Laden and all of his terrorist goons are better people than these terrible excuses of humanity are. In fact, I’m beginning to believe that every tyrant or evil person that has ever lived was a better human than these “things”. I feel sorry for any person that is not like these “things” to have to be around them for even a second. The greatest thing that can and WILL happen to this nation is when we have gotten these “things” out of any kind of authority, even as a crossing guard.

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    • democratgirl
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:58am

      The Wall Street Journal characterized the president’s speech on the budget by writing, “The speech he chose to deliver was dishonest even by modern political standards.“ WSJ points out the president used ”blistering partisanship and multiple distortions“ to ”inoculate the White House from criticism that it is not serious about the fiscal crisis.” The article points out that the president blamed the record budget deficits and national debt on others rather than taking responsibility for his own part, which was greater than any of the previous presidents. WSJ said that the president characterized opposing plans as un-American because Republicans are about “changing the basic social compact in America.”

      He never directly called for a tax increase, but reframed it in code. Now tax increases are called “spending reductions in the tax code.“ He said his plan ”calls for tax reform to cut about $1 trillion in tax expenditures — spending in the tax code.” This means that he expects to increase taxes by a trillion dollars. He continued his class warfare theme. He said that he wants to eliminate tax deductions for the wealthiest two percent of Americans. Trouble is, he also wants to eliminate the home mortgage tax deduction, which impacts every home owner, smashing the American dream of property ownership. The centerpiece of the Communist Manifesto is for government to abolish property ownership.

      He used the same worn out mantra of the Democratic playbook–terrorize the seniors by saying the big bad Republicans are going to cut your medicare and social security. But at the same time, he said “if we don’t make any changes at all, we won’t be able to keep our commitment to a retiring generation….” He mentioned that Ronald Reagan and Tip O’Neill “came together to save Social Security for future generations.” I remember that. I was working then on Capitol Hill. There was an agreement that neither party would criticize the other in the announcement of their bipartisan decision. The first thing the Democrats did was say that Republicans wanted further cuts in social security.

      The president’s speech was tantamount to someone who was robbing your house. You caught him in the act and held him until the police came. He then sued you for physical and mental damages. This government is robbing you of your freedom to pursue happiness, even to own a home. Many will say that it is God’s judgement on us for becoming such a sinful society. And that by encouraging others to take action against this socialist Leviathan is getting in the way of God’s plan. Who am I that I can undermine the plan of the Almighty? Psalm 107:1,2 says the Lord’s “mercy endures forever. Let the redeemed of the Lord say so, whom he has redeemed from the hand of the enemy.” Let us repent, arise, and respond.

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    • Gold Coin & Economic News
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:59am

      “we would not be a great country without those commitments”

      So we were not a great country for the 170 or so years before the modern entitlement era?

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    • gman46
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 11:00am

      Anyone who thinks that entitlements make a country stronger, does not need to be leading this Country!!

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    • democratgirl
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 11:02am

      This President is ONE SICK MAN-CHILD. He is delusional and just down-right disgusting. I am not sure if I am going to puke, or go insane over what I heard him say. He should be impeached immediately and any politician who won’t consider it, is equally insane. How much more are we going to put up with until we can’t go back to correct all that he is trying to destroy????????? I am not rich. I have a home and a mortgage. I go to church and therefore, give tithes and gifts and deduct them on my income tax. THIS PRESIDENT WANTS TO PUNISH US FOR DOING SO. How is that helping America? How is that MY FAIR SHARE? HOW IS THAT ***HELPING*** AMERICA? Someone please enlighten me, since WE, THE PEOPLE, seem to be so STUPID to this moronic President.

      ChildOfTheKing  
    • conversationcanwork
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 11:06am

      @democratgirl

      Sometimes your posts are so over the top, I honestly think that you are joking. Then I realize you probably aren’t, then I just feel bad for you.

      @Encinom

      You should know that unless the founding fathers did it, it’s only hurt the country. It‘s a good thing the would hasn’t changed since that era.

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    • trolltrainer
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 11:08am

      Conversationcanwork (yet comes in here with nothing but a blatant troll that is not even on topic) writes:

      “Yep, Reagan had nothing at all to do with the death of the middle class. Try reading and listening to both sides. It helps.”

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      Who the heck is talking about Reagan? Or Bush? Or Clinton, Carter, or Johnson for that matter?

      I have the SITTING President here telling me America is not great without entitlements.

      Is this true? I know what the gut reaction in here will consistently be, I mean, if Obama said it it just HAS to be wrong…But I also wonder how many of these folks have used some kind of government support in their past or will in the future. The fact is we do look after those who are less fortunate. That is not a problem, the problem is how these programs are administered and how much money is thrown away needlessly. I have nothing against a social safety net, per say, but we go way too far with it. This is where I have to part from the Libertarians. I understand their argument, I just disagree that the real world is that cut and dried.

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    • Gold Coin & Economic News
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 11:08am

      @encinom “the safety nets of FDR that showed we care for all citizens”

      We are the most charitable giving nation on earth. We don’t need the government forcing us to “contribute”. Does our charitable giving not show we care?

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    • conversationcanwork
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 11:11am

      I said that because of the useless name dropping that goes on here all the time. I know that the entitlement programs need to be looked at so see where the money is going. But that doesn’t mean we cut the budget from those programs.

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    • hauschild
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 11:17am

      What a complete ass!

      I’m embarrassed “my” country has a leader without shame and common sense.

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    • trolltrainer
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 11:27am

      conversationcanwork:

      “I know that the entitlement programs need to be looked at so see where the money is going. But that doesn’t mean we cut the budget from those programs.”

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      Oh, many of them we do! Planned parenthood for instance. It can be privately funded. We need to cut all the fat. Get rid of the department of education and give power back to the states. Let them fund lunch (and breakfast) programs. I mean, they are handing out free contraceptives to 10 year olds…BS! I am for taking it down to a bare minimum to help those who truly need help at the moment. I am not for supporting someone on unemployment for 4 years because they cannot find another 6 figure income. You give them enough to eat on and only for a few months. Likewise, food stamps? No! My proposal for that is to have a separate counter in the front and center of every grocery store. The recipient goes up to the “shame counter” and produces his voucher. In return he gets a cardboard box with a sack of flour, a sack of sugar, a can of coffee, a dozen eggs, a gallon of milk, maybe some rice, dried beans, and some super cheap cuts of meat. There ya go! They are eating better than 90 something percent of the rest of the world. I get so sick of seeing the food stamp leeches filling their carts with Nabisco, prime rib, and name brand soda when I am eating hamburger and Great Value crap!

      Social Security? I am mixed on that one. In concept I can see the value of the program. But maybe allow people to opt out? I don’t know…But it needs to be scaled back and fixed.

      I am not for leaving those in need high and dry, but I also refuse to carry them on MY back their whole lives. Give them a hand up but then they MUST help themselves. If that means working two jobs flipping burgers then so be it! Lord knows I have!

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    • conversationcanwork
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 11:36am

      @troll

      Because they can’t find another 6 figure income?! GTFO of here. Many of them can’t find any jobs, let alone one with 6 figures. Where are all of these food stamp people eating like that? I come from a poorish area and I never saw stuff like that, or is one of the generalized overstatements that are so prevalent on this site.

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    • trolltrainer
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 11:49am

      “Because they can’t find another 6 figure income?! GTFO of here. Many of them can’t find any jobs, let alone one with 6 figures. Where are all of these food stamp people eating like that? I come from a poorish area and I never saw stuff like that, or is one of the generalized overstatements that are so prevalent on this site.”
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      Heh, MacDonalds is hiring everywhere! Do not tell me they cannot find jobs, jobs are out there. But why would you work for $7 an hour when you are getting paid $4000 a month to watch MSNBC all day?

      You do not see wellfare folks eating well? You are surely blind, spend half an hour in any grocery store. I see it every time I go shopping. You walk the isles and look at the types of food people are getting. Find someone with a cart loaded up with name brand stuff and watch how they pay for it. They will have the EBT card.

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    • 48
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 11:53am

      This guy is nuts. I understand how he became president because he lied his a$$ off through his whole campain and there was many clueless people out there but how does he maintain an approval rating for what he’s doing to this country, that’s what scares the hell out of me.

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    • encinom
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 11:53am

      Gold Coin & Economic News
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 11:08am
      @encinom “the safety nets of FDR that showed we care for all citizens”

      We are the most charitable giving nation on earth. We don’t need the government forcing us to “contribute”. Does our charitable giving not show we care?
      _______________________________________________________
      Really, while charity helps, during historic and recent economic downturns, donations to charity drop. Your basic arguement is that the poor, sick, and elderly must be forced to live hoping for the charity of others, that we as a nation have no obligation to take care of our own and I bet you call yourself a christian also.

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    • CatB
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 11:59am

      Obama is a socialist TOOL …this country did quite well when neighbor took care of neighbor … without the government intervention and EXPENSE. It is MUCH more efficient and you give better “help” locally. I remember in my old neighborhood as a kid . .. whenever anyone had a unexpected need .. they would go around and take up a collection for them .. and then there was the church community also.

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    • trolltrainer
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 12:00pm

      48:

      “but how does he maintain an approval rating for what he’s doing to this country, that’s what scares the hell out of me.”

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      Me too. It is unbelievable, with everything he has done, every lie he has told…How is it his approval rating is not like 19%?

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    • Dustyluv
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 12:06pm

      Communism rules!! Yea right…

      It will be a great day when we finally wake up to what a truly free market without the burden on bums looks like…

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    • watchtheotherhand
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 12:09pm

      C’mon on now stop with the combative behavior and be more cooperative or its back in the padded room for you ENCINOM. This time you will not be allowed imaginary visitors either.

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    • I AM ENCINOMs THERAPIST
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 12:14pm

      Yeah and this time I am not rounding on him over the weekend so he can just stay in there til Monday if he keeps acting out.

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    • restorehope
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 12:14pm

      For Obama to say that our country would not be great without entitlements is ludicrous and self-serving. Progressives love to hand out other people’s money and then take credit for it. Social Security is not voluntary, nor will healthcare be voluntary under Obamacare. A valid entitlement is the one that gives us the right to work hard in order to prosper. You cannot hand out prosperity and expect people to handle it wisely. Those who don‘t earn their success will only feel ’entitled’ to demand even more.

      By the way, ‘Atlas Shrugged’ is opening today across the country in selected movie theaters. It is a movie that the progressives will definitely not want the rest of us to see, mainly because it reveals what the libs are trying to do to this country.

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    • Oil_Robb
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 12:18pm

      I am thinking ,,,,Bohica…..(bend over here it comes again)

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    • MustComment
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 12:20pm

      I’m thinking 10 fingers wrapped around his throat.

      His vision for America is destroying America.

      http://www.obamaclock.org/

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    • CultureWarriors
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 12:27pm

      Perhaps the worst speech ever given by a sitting president. Dishonest, clueless and hyper-partisan. Tacky is the best way to describe it. He shows once again that he is just not a leader. He does not have what it takes to be President. He is the worst ever.

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    • Ampleforth
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 12:30pm

      @GODSAMERICA

      I’m much more comfortable with Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda than I am with Barack Obama and the Democrat party. Al Qaeda doesn’t blow any sunshine up my pantslegs. They come out and tell us that they hate America and want to destroy America. On the other hand, President Obama’s message is much more subtle and possibly as sinister. In the campaign he said that this is the greatest nation on Earth and that he wants to change it. He’s done a great job changing it away from being the greatest nation. His policies have the same outcome as Al Qaeda, but he says them in the resonating baritone voice and is bedecked in a suit and tie instead of robes and turbans. Whereas Al Qaeda says that it wants to destroy us and our progeny, the Democrats say it’s “for the children” while their policies floor personal freedom and erode the family.

      Al Qaeda seeks to destroy us quickly while the Democrats want to slowly pluck out all of our feathers until we collapse unable to deal with the pain and the general trauma.

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    • encinom
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 12:31pm

      restorehope
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 12:14pm
      For Obama to say that our country would not be great without entitlements is ludicrous and self-serving. Progressives love to hand out other people’s money and then take credit for it. Social Security is not voluntary, nor will healthcare be voluntary under Obamacare. A valid entitlement is the one that gives us the right to work hard in order to prosper. You cannot hand out prosperity and expect people to handle it wisely. Those who don‘t earn their success will only feel ’entitled’ to demand even more.

      By the way, ‘Atlas Shrugged’ is opening today across the country in selected movie theaters. It is a movie that the progressives will definitely not want the rest of us to see, mainly because it reveals what the libs are trying to do to this country.
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      To bad history proves you wrong. It is the policies of FDR from Social Security to WPA that built us into a great nation. Prior to WWII France and Britian were the world leaders not the US. FDR‘s investment in America’s future with the work programs of the WPA built the infrastructure that the US would need to be great. FDR’s push for Social Security help drastically drop the proverty rate for senior citizens. Other presidents to Ike and Johnson pushing progressive ideas like a national highway system and medicare helped maintain America’s greatness. The Tea Party blinded by their own ignorance to see the truth.

      As for the movie opening this weekend, big deal, Rand’s novels are works of fiction that fail in real world situations.

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    • I AM ENCINOMs THERAPIST
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 12:36pm

      Just disregard ENCINOM…….. They suffer from early onset Alzheimers, Organic brain syndrome, dementia, schizophrenia, bipolar, paranoia disorder. I have them under medication but it has been a long difficult road to attain a steady state of coherence as they continue to insist of this fantasy they create in order to maintain some sort of sanity. Obviously, I need to change my approach.

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    • Polwatcher
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 12:43pm

      He is saying that individual people are bad and government is “good”. He wants more “good”. This only makes sense if you think that individual people are bad. I think it is the other way around.

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    • restorehope
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 12:49pm

      @ Encinom’s Therapist
      I pity you with what you have to deal with. Have you considered committment for him? An extended stay in a ‘mental health farm’ might be just what it needed to cure Encinom’s delusions.

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 12:49pm

      If only he had been this honest when he was running for election. We could have dodged a bullet.

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    • mikem1969
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 12:54pm

      obama like the rest of the libs and progressives have proven time and time again that they are idiots.

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    • Non-sequitur
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 12:57pm

      It’s funny how you attack Encinom without even mentioning any of his points.

      Come on, disprove the guy! If what he’s saying is so absurd that should take no effort at all!

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    • hologram5
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 12:59pm

      @trolltrainer
      Don’t try to argue with someone as illogical as CONVERSATIONCANWORK as it will make your brain hurt. I have argued with many of his types, made a logical statement and got crickets in return. The left knows nothing about basic economics and what they do know is nothing more than talking points from MSLSD. They are insidious in their blatant communism all the while not even realizing that we currently live under 7 of the ten planks of the communist manifesto. Their idea of “tax the rich” is rich indeed as most of them that decry this are sitting on huge amounts of coin to begin with. Let them cut personal checks if they want to help the poor that badly. I used to be that poor, I used to collect food stamps and get free medical until I woke up, got tired of being under uncle sam’s thumb and went back to school to get an education so that I could “SHOW MYSELF A MAN” and quit depending on others to take care of my family. I needed to step up and be the man.

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    • thepatriotdave
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 1:03pm

      Wait a minute Obama, if we are such a great country, why did you want to change her so much during your first prez campaign and then once you took the oath? Were you lying then, or are you lying now? Or are you just full of s***?

      Be a part of “the” grassroots Tea Party event of 2011, with all 50 state’s Tea Party and 9.12 groups attending… http://www.americasteapartynews.com/freedomjamboree.php

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    • BetterDays
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 1:14pm

      I know this is off topic but it’s a burning question that I have to ask.
      I feel like these are the end days as described in the bible. My question I’d do you feel the same way?

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    • restorehope
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 1:14pm

      @ Non-Sequitur
      To rebutt Encinom‘s rationalizations is a waste of everyone’s time. He throws out historical misconceptions as if they were the truth. Many of FDR’s programs were found to be unconstitutional. Others have led us down the path to socialism and the nanny state.

      FDR was not as popular as the lib-slanting history books want everyone to believe. As soon as he died, Congress made sure that the term limit was enacted so that no one else could abuse the Constitution so freely and for so long as FDR did. Too bad the term limit was not set to only one term. That would limit the amount of damage a bad president could do to this country.

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    • Soldiers_Son
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 1:17pm

      I was going to write a long scathing rebuke concerning President Obama and how entitlements have ruined this country, but I got so upset at how incredibly out of touch Obama is with the American people and economics that I gave up.

      So, this is what you get, a post devoid of any substance… just like our President.

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    • restorehope
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 1:28pm

      @Encinom
      Making generalizations about FDR is self-defeating. Under the New Deal, unemployment rose greatly, it did not fall. Also, the number of government employees rose from 600,000 to over 3.8 million, and we all know how that little nugget has snowballed into an out-of-control bureaucracy. FDR’s programs enabled the government to legislate and gain more control over private citizens, thus neutralizing individual freedom in the areas of healthcare, taxation, and commerce.

      To belittle our greatness before WWII and say we were not a world power is also inaccurate. Until we stepped in, WWI had become stalemated and would have continued to disrupt and destroy Europe. What about the impact of the American inventions and innovations that greatly improved the world prior to WWII?

      To belittle America as you seem prone to do is to belittle yourself.

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    • The Third Archon
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 1:46pm

      @BETTERDAYS

      Common conservative misconception–socialism, at least true socialism that’s preached today by socialists (state socialism having been disavowed, and democratic socialism being simply a fuzzy Left social welfare friendly set of government types without any clear enumeration of core categorical beliefs i.e. libertarian socialism, is simply the small idea that where there is democracy in the political sphere, there ought to be democracy in the economic sphere. That each should be given the fruits of their labors to consume in proportion to their share of value input to the product. It would likely have the incidental effect of some shrinking of income disparity as people would be paid according to what they had contributed to the product of the economy, and not how much of the economy they have managed to purchase (i.e. can you play monopoly? yes/no–if you can play monopoly you’d make a better capitalist than Donald Trump), and while the is likely to have many positive effects upon aggregate demand and the consumer holdings of debt in the economy accruing a number of positive and urgently necessary benefits, it is not the primary aim of socialism to achieve wealth redistribution–it is simply assumed that once the autocratic and exploitative structures of power are removed from the economy it will simply be impossible for individuals to accrue wealth without actually providing substantive or innovative improvements to production. Once the means of production are democratically controlled, those who receive compensation without adding value to the product shall be unable to justify their earnings, and they shall be seen for what they are–takings. Takings which slow our economy down be sapping disposable income and consumption, creates more poverty that the government has to deal with, and creates a consumer debt crisis, and destroys the nuclear family by putting more strain of families as both parents must find, and in this economy often cannot, jobs–I don‘t understand why this isn’t a serious concern of conservatives as well, it’s really an issue that affects all of us.

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    • UP, CHUCK!
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:04pm

      Spoken like a true marxist asss!

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    • BlazingInSC
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:06pm

      An example of WFA you see with the food stamp program (to add to Trolltrainer’s arguments against the program). I have witnessed people use an EBT card at the register and receive cash back (on many many more than one occasion). That is a complete lack of control for how that money is actually spent. They may use the cash to make a vital purchase at a store that doesn’t accept EBT payments, but chances are really good they are using it for unnecessary discretionary spending that they couldn’t otherwise use EBT for (smokes, beer, Blockbuster video rental, etc). I’m all for charitable giving nd philanthropy, but when it is coercively forced through taxation, then that enslaves the working class to the poor — You want to talk about equality, justice, and fairness – explain to me how this arrangement is fair?

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    • DirectlyUnPCman
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:52pm

      Barry you sux.

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    • encinom
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 2:57pm

      restorehope
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 1:14pm
      @ Non-Sequitur
      To rebutt Encinom‘s rationalizations is a waste of everyone’s time. He throws out historical misconceptions as if they were the truth. Many of FDR’s programs were found to be unconstitutional. Others have led us down the path to socialism and the nanny state.

      FDR was not as popular as the lib-slanting history books want everyone to believe. As soon as he died, Congress made sure that the term limit was enacted so that no one else could abuse the Constitution so freely and for so long as FDR did. Too bad the term limit was not set to only one term. That would limit the amount of damage a bad president could do to this country.
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      First let’s start with the lie Beck loves to repeat, that FDR was unpopular. First the man did win elections, by large margins. In his Second election, FDR and Garner won 60.8% of the vote and carried every state except Maine and Vermont. Yes, in his third election bid he only got 55% of the vote and carried 38 states. And in his final election he got 53% and carried 36 states. And if you are going by simiply election returns, than Nixon was a popular president in his last term, he got 60% of the vote. So yes there was a decline, does not mean he was hated, as much as it spoke to the strengths of his oppenents. And polls taken at the time of his death show his popularity at around 66%. http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1192 Of, course the 22nd Amendment did not get ratified until 6 years after FDR’s death. It was proposed by the GOP (I don’t think they were fans).

      Prior to WWI the sun did not set on the British Empire. The US was a world power, but it was not “THE” world power. European nations and empires controlled the world more than the US. The US by its sheer size alone tipped the scale of the outcome of the war, where both sides were in balance. While the status of the US did increase in the period after WWI, the lies of the isolationist, then the great depression kept us from being “THE” World Power. It is only after WWII, where the we became the engine of democracy, thanks in large part the to the WPA programs that created the infrastructure. And it is the years after, with thnaks to the GI Bill, that saw America expend its greatness.

      It took the Federal government’s investment in its people and its infrastructure to make the last century, America’s Century. The Tea Party has forgotten US history, fed on a diet of lies from Beck.

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    • Blackhawk1
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:28pm

      encinom

      You know what FDR created? The First Nationwide Ponzi Scheme. Bernie Madoff got jail time for setting up the same thing that FDR did with Socialist Security. I wouldn‘t call FDR’s 14% unemployment after the New Deal a great success either. You know why FDR got elected? The same thing Obama is trying to do with created a dependent society on the Government. It didn‘t work then and it won’t work now. Every time Socialism has been tried it fails, just look how well Greece and the rest of them are doing.

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    • SLAPTHELEFT
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:44pm

      I often wonder how the hell i survive without getting handouts from the govt……??????

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    • Blackhawk1
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:51pm

      Encinom

      Yet another lie you liberals try to tell. “Of, course the 22nd Amendment did not get ratified until 6 years after FDR’s death. It was proposed by the GOP (I don’t think they were fans).” In actual History, (not the left’s revisionist history) The 22nd Amendment was the final result of the recommendations of the Hoover Commission which was established by President Harry S. Truman in 1947 Imagine that, the amendment restricting Presidential terms was proposed by none other than FDR’s own Vice-President.

      You may go crawl back in the basement.

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:00pm

      @encinom,

      “It took the Federal government’s investment in its people and its infrastructure to make the last century, America’s Century. The Tea Party has forgotten US history, fed on a diet of lies from Beck.”

      Government money comes from the People, not the other way around, and it wouldn’t exist otherwise – not so, the other way around. So let’s not treat government like it creates wealth.

      The investments you speak of came from borrowing from other countries on the trust America elicited on the basis of its free market principles. It’s EASY to do lots of things on credit, so long as the credit lasts;

      But since some of the investments were based on Ponzi schemes, and others were based on the willingness of other countries to destroy us with our own debt in the long term, like all subsidized booms it was destined to bust aganst the realities of market forces.

      We now see today how much the Progressives have made Americans slaves by lying to them.

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    • I AM ENCINOMs THERAPIST
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:16pm

      Obviously I am going to have to up ENCINOMs Ativan. Also need to give a Thorazine slurpee every afternoon to stop these paranoid delusions.

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    • encinom
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:36pm

      Blackhawk1
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 3:51pm
      Encinom

      Yet another lie you liberals try to tell. “Of, course the 22nd Amendment did not get ratified until 6 years after FDR’s death. It was proposed by the GOP (I don’t think they were fans).” In actual History, (not the left’s revisionist history) The 22nd Amendment was the final result of the recommendations of the Hoover Commission which was established by President Harry S. Truman in 1947 Imagine that, the amendment restricting Presidential terms was proposed by none other than FDR’s own Vice-President.

      You may go crawl back in the basement
      _________________________________________________________

      Stop looking to Beck for “facts” he has none. The 22nd Amendment and the Hoover Commission are products of the GOP. The Hoover Commission was created after the GOP rammed Lodge-Brown Act of 1947 through Congress. Note the Commission is named for a Republican President.

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    • encinom
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 8:26pm

      A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 4:00pm
      @encinom,

      “It took the Federal government’s investment in its people and its infrastructure to make the last century, America’s Century. The Tea Party has forgotten US history, fed on a diet of lies from Beck.”

      Government money comes from the People, not the other way around, and it wouldn’t exist otherwise – not so, the other way around. So let’s not treat government like it creates wealth.

      The investments you speak of came from borrowing from other countries on the trust America elicited on the basis of its free market principles. It’s EASY to do lots of things on credit, so long as the credit lasts;

      But since some of the investments were based on Ponzi schemes, and others were based on the willingness of other countries to destroy us with our own debt in the long term, like all subsidized booms it was destined to bust aganst the realities of market forces.

      We now see today how much the Progressives have made Americans slaves by lying to them.
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      So your argument is that the boom of the 50′s was a hoax, regardless of the fact that at the time the majority of our debt was domestically held (fwe nations coming out of WWII had the resource to buy the debt)? Government should not have invested in the returning GIs with low cost homes and assistance with a College education. Maybe its time for corporations to pay back the Federal Government, one of the benefits of the newly created large pool of college educated citizens was that corporations in the 50s and 60s had a vastly increased talent pool to draw employees from.

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    • nptden
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:05pm

      What a Scam. http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_alinskys_rule.html

      He’s a crook. http://nowewont.ning.com/profiles/blogs/obama-may-have-a-criminal-past

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on April 14, 2011 at 10:41pm

      @encinom,

      “So your argument is that the boom of the 50′s was a hoax, regardless of the fact that at the time the majority of our debt was domestically held (fwe nations coming out of WWII had the resource to buy the debt)?”

      I’m referring to the New Deal and later booms based on foreign credit.

      Government subsidies mask the real market forces, not to mention treat people unequally (allocation of funds for its effect on one set of citizens at the expense of another). This is not what government is for; This is more so the case with America, the Constitution of which, unlike other countries, actually realizes this fact.

      “Government should not have invested in the returning GIs with low cost homes and assistance with a College education.”

      You’re misunderstanding the role of government and the GIs. Their honor comes from their cause, which is to defend our Constitutional Republic (the actual ideals in the Constitution) from enemies both foreign and domestic.

      All of government, including our armed forces, are a service sector designed to allow the private sector to BE the private sector – free market and all.

      With this as a foundation, the compensation for their services comes from defense spending – which a lot of the Right highly believe in, which is why the Left calls it the Right’s sacred cow of budget allocations. Our Founders understood the need to have an armed forces – as well as the need to limit their authority – for the defense of, ultimately, the ideals of individual liberty and the free market; Constitutionally, this (to reiterate) is supposed to be their motive for fighting, when they do.

      That’s just to say that their compensation is already accounted for in defense spending (when it’s not attacked by the Left).

      When they are discharged from public service, any authority and (direct) influence they had in government, rightfully ends, so as to ensure that government remains within the confines of our Constitutional Republic – therefore they are rightfully ineligible (Constitutionally) to receive public funds.

      Now, if America loves its freedom and hates Marxism and Keynesianism, then it will honor their heroes by preferring them in consideration for employment, etc., and also by not spitting on them and calling them pigs and baby killers when they come home. Also, the free market and individual liberties which they have protected, as well as retained for themselves as now private citizens, will ensure that not only they, but all of America will have a way to prosper.

      But whether we honor our heroes or not, in order to keep the government from growing beyond its Constitutionally allocated limits, the government must not spend the People’s money on former government personnel – the money does not belong to government.

      The size and role of government is to be limited for a reason. And if you‘re willing to agree that big businesses can violate the People’s rights, then you would also be that much more willing to agree that government, with the powers that it has (and as is evident in cases of crony Capitalism), can violate People’s rights that much more. That is to say that big businesses are always better than big government, because at least with big businesses, someone else can start their own and compete, and it’s a lot easier (not to mention a lot less bloody) to get people to boycott a business, than to try and regain control from a tyrannical government.

      “Maybe its time for corporations to pay back the Federal Government, one of the benefits of the newly created large pool of college educated citizens was that corporations in the 50s and 60s had a vastly increased talent pool to draw employees from.”

      One of the drawbacks of subsidized education is that through taxation, the government could effectively monopolize it, which has lead to not only higher tuition via a lack of “meaningful” competition (accreditation, and all), but also the incentive for political activism in the classroom – this is not something you want government to control, or “help” with.

      Government subsidized education has taken far more from the private sector than tuition, in the form of distorted market prices and a surpluss of workers (unemployment). The free market provides the incentive for innovation which best matches real demand, which in turn keeps prices from inflating.

      Maybe it’s time to get rid of corporations, altogether, as well as ignoring the pretended authority of Unions. If you get rid of corporations, it’s harder for crony Capitalism to set in, and if you ignored Unions, people would still retain their Constitutional right to associate with whomever they wish, and even to form Unions, but the employers wouldn’t then be forced to pick from Union members (which violates the employers’ individual liberties).

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    • encinom
      Posted on April 15, 2011 at 12:15am

      @A DOCTORS LABOR IS NOT MY RIGHT

      Reading your response is depressing in that you are so entrenched in a purity of Aryn Rand’s theories as to deny past American success/ The 20 years after WWII saw some of the greatest growth of private wealth among all Americans. Do you disagree with the creation of National Highways or NASA. Both federal programs had public and private benefits as they defined this period.

      Another theme you expressed is that the government has no duty to those that defended this nation. Unlike today’s volunteer military, the vast majority of those that served in WWII were drafted. The all put their lives on hold for service to their country and yet your argument is that they deserve nothing more than the minimum salary. DO you at support vets having access to VA Hospitals, what about Veteran cemeteries or are those also unconstitutional?

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    • Armed Patriot
      Posted on April 15, 2011 at 10:40am

      Ive been off work for a month now. I have at least two weeks more before I can even think of returning to work. I have that ILLNESS he is talking about. I have a serious blood clot in my leg. I am paying for it through private health insurance that had me in to get an emergency ultrasound within minutes to diagnose. I should be recieving disability insurance which I paid for. Next months medical insurance paycheck deductions will need to be paid out of my own pocket (personal check written to my employer). Where is the need for government intervention??? I am a poor white boy doing it myself, MYSELF. Thank God I didnt have nobama care to help me. This country is great because it gave me the ability to do this myself, MYSELF, responsibly without making the rest of you pay for it. This potus is a commie rat bastard and a maroon.

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on April 15, 2011 at 2:06pm

      @encinom,

      “The 20 years after WWII saw some of the greatest growth of private wealth among all Americans. Do you disagree with the creation of National Highways or NASA. Both federal programs had public and private benefits as they defined this period.”

      It would be great if loans didn’t come with obligations, and if government programs weren’t prone to mission creep.

      The appropriation of land for defense is supposed to REPLACE the land’s economic activity, so as to keep the two concerns separate.

      US Constitution, Section 8

      “The Congress shall have Power …

      “To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; – And

      To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.”

      But now, the NHS, under the guise of national defense, has effectively gained a control over the economy, via car insurance and Unionized DOT workers (crony Marxism?).

      I used to think that the NHS was great for the economic POTENTIAL that it offers, but alas what is often ignored by well meaning Leftists is the potential – and proclivity – of government to overreach its authority.

      Granted, to the extent that the NHS has permitted ease of transport, the free market has certainly benefitted from this aspect of it. But, again, like all subsidized booms, it was bound to bust on the realities of the market – in this case the NHS bust is our debt and an ever increasing overreach of government authority, both of which cripple productivity in the private sector.

      Ultimately though, the NHS is unConstitutional (see Section 8).

      “Another theme you expressed is that the government has no duty to those that defended this nation. Unlike today’s volunteer military, the vast majority of those that served in WWII were drafted. The all put their lives on hold for service to their country and yet your argument is that they deserve nothing more than the minimum salary. DO you at support vets having access to VA Hospitals, what about Veteran cemeteries or are those also unconstitutional?”

      What you’re missing is that our soldiers ARE the government,

      and as such, it has a duty to the private sector – the government has no purpose beyond securing the inalienable rights of its citizens (“consent of the governed”).

      And again, it‘s not like the Right doesn’t have a thrill up its leg for our soldiers (except in the 60s, when America spit on them and called them pigs an baby killers – you can thank SDS and the Weather Underground for that) – we are criticized CONSTANTLY for having Defense as our sacred cow.

      If government did what it was supposed to, it would allot more of the tax dollars it receives to Defense to take care of our troops. But because of the great potential for government to overstep its authority (which is inadvertently acknowledged by the Left, in the form of claiming that big businesses have too much power, which has less authority than the government), it must be constrained, such that when soldiers are discharged, it is up to the private sector to honor them.

      If you have 12 minutes, the following audio addresses some of these same concepts, namely:

      “Whether government intervention, generally, and in connection with war, specifically, is good for the economy.

      How policy changes alter incentives.

      Features of the New Deal era that have ominous parallels with what’s happening, today.” (paraphrase)

      World War II Did Not End the Great Depression
      Tuesday, ‎March ‎29, ‎2011
      http://www.mises.org
      http://feeds.mises.org/~r/MisesMedia/~5/SIjeAhwtlEI/5069_Carden.mp3

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on April 15, 2011 at 3:23pm

      @encinom,

      If you found my statement about ending corporations refreshing, could I please get you to listen to the following audio?

      It’s 25 minutes long, and covers several key issues with regard to the economy (corporatism, wealth redistribution, environmentalism, etc.), so it’s kind of long. But this guy from the Alliance of the Libertarian Left, with a high level of precision (given the time allotted), untangles a lot of the confusion in these issue – such as the differece between Capitalism and Corporatism.

      To TheBlazers, please listen to this audio!

      How to Reach the Left
      ‎Monday, ‎April ‎11, ‎2011
      http://www.mises.org
      http://feeds.mises.org/~r/MisesMedia/~5/ceoQ5fdR58w/03_MCChicago_20110409_Long.mp3

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