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Obama Defers to Boehner: Moves Jobs Speech to September 8

WASHINGTON (AP) – President Barack Obama will a deliver rare address to a joint session of Congress next week to introduce a long-awaited plan for jobs and economic growth, but not before being forced to yield in a test of wills with House Speaker John Boehner over not what he would say, but when he would say it.
Obama agreed to schedule his address on Sept. 8 after Boehner balked at the president’s request for a Sept. 7 speech.

Obama’s address still gives him a grand stage to unveil his economic agenda, though it falls on the same evening as the opening game of the National Football League season. White House officials were working on the precise timing of the speech in hopes of avoiding a conflict.

The change will allow a planned Sept. 7 Republican presidential debate in Simi Valley, Calif., to proceed without Obama upstaging it.

Still, by seeking a rare joint session of Congress as his audience, Obama will get a nationally televised address that puts him face to face with Republican lawmakers who have bitterly opposed his agenda and who have vowed to vote down any new spending he might propose.

“It is our responsibility to find bipartisan solutions to help grow our economy, and if we are willing to put country before party, I am confident we can do just that,” Obama wrote Wednesday in a letter to Boehner, R-Ohio, and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.

The White House budget office on Thursday is expected to provide revised budget forecasts and the Labor Department on Friday will release new August unemployment numbers. The two sets of data will highlight Obama’s challenge: addressing short-term demands to increase jobs and shore up the economy while minding long-term budget deficits.

In seeking a joint session of Congress to deliver his plan, the president is turning the effort into a public relations campaign.

Emphasizing that strategy and illustrating the fine line between governing and political campaigning, Obama issued a plea through his presidential campaign late Wednesday calling for public support in holding Congress accountable.

In an email, Obama said he would deliver details of his jobs plan to Congress next week. “Whether they will do the job they were elected to do is ultimately up to them,” he wrote. “But both you and I can pressure them to do the right thing.”

The email asked supporters to provide their name and email addresses, a mobilizing tactic useful both to push for legislative action and to build a foundation for his re-election.

White House officials say not all details of the president’s address have been decided, though he is expected to lay out proposals to increase hiring with a blend of tax incentives for business and government spending for public works projects. At the same time, White House officials say, he will offer long-term deficit reductions to make up for any upfront spending.

The dispute over the timing of the speech created an inauspicious start to the jobs debate and introduced tensions before Congress even returns from its annual summer recess.

Usually, presidential requests to address Congress are routinely granted after consultations between the White House and lawmakers.

In this case, the White House notified Boehner’s office less than two hours before it released the letter requesting the session. A White House official, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the topic, said Boehner’s office raised no objections or concerns.

In his formal reply a few hours later, Boehner said the House would not return until late Sept. 7 and security and parliamentary issues might be an obstacle. The House and the Senate each would have to adopt a resolution to allow a joint session for the president.

Boehner spokesman Brendan Buck said no one in Boehner’s office signed off on the date and accused the White House of ignoring established protocol of arriving at a mutually agreed date before making public announcements.

A key issue for many Republicans was the Sept. 7 Republican presidential debate in California.

In a message posted on the Twitter social network, Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus wrote, “BarackObama request to give jobs speech the same night as GOP Presidential debate is further proof this WH is all politics all the time.”

White House spokesman Jay Carney said the timing chosen by the White House was a coincidence.

Negotiations between the White House and Boehner’s office proceeded through the late afternoon and into the evening Wednesday

At about 9:15 p.m., Carney issued a statement: “The president is focused on the urgent need to create jobs and grow our economy, so he welcomes the opportunity to address a Joint Session of Congress on Thursday, September 8th.”

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  • I.Gaspar
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:19pm

    He should give his jobs speech in february 2013, when he is out of one.
    Nothing he says or does will help us; he should just go somewhere and play golf for the next 16 months.

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    • tradexpertbuysell
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:31pm

      Looks like the Mo Fu got shut down!

      Oh I’m sorry does that sound racist? Up yours! I’ve had it with the racist card and am deliberately sticking this one in your eye lefty! Get over it.

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    • zoose
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:50pm

      His jobs speech is going to be the same thing, infrastructure, roads and green energy and it will cost billions. If the government would keep their fingers out of the business pie and leave them alone, jobs may start showing up in the next year instead of having new regulations that will cost billions to what is left of our businesses.

      Oh it don‘t matter what day it’s delivered as it won’t matter anyway.

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 11:00pm

      I called Boehner. I told him to give a message to the President, from the TEA PARTY.
      I told him that the TEA PARTY Insists that they abandon their little political scheme and change the date of his worthless, rhetoric-laden speech. I told him to tell his global elite constituents that their whole “Green” and “Global” agenda Bulls#it is over. Told them to try their new world order everywhere but America. Told them we will keep our Sovereignty, Guns, Bibles, and whatever the hell else we want !!! Told them soon when you frisk 6 year old girls or shut down their lemonade stands, you WILL answer to the TEA PARTY !!!
      told them,soon, when you tell people they can’t grow vegetables in their own yard, you WILL face the TEA PARTY !!!
      Socialists and Globalists;Your days here in America are Numbered !!!
      SAYS the TEA PARTY !!!!!!

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    • Phoenixsoulfire
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 11:06pm

      watch the stock market plunge

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 11:25pm

      @ ProbIemSoIver
      WELL SAID….

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    • MrButcher
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 11:27pm

      “He should give his jobs speech in february 2013, when he is out of one.
      Nothing he says or does will help us; he should just go somewhere and play golf for the next 16 months.”

      Touche’.

      great post.

      Obama will be remembered as a very tragic Presidential figure. A man who put ideaology before reality. Grant, Andrew Johnson and Carter combined.

      The ball is in the republicans court.

      Who will we run?

      This is where it gets even more troubling….

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 11:56pm

      Just be glad we don’t live in a Country were one faces 75 years in jail for filming police on their own property… oh, wait, yes WE DO live in that Country !!!!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5AMN33aQYo

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    • Any_One_But_Obama
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 12:50am

      THIS IS THE SECOND YEAR HE HAS PUT OFF A JOBS PLAN UNTIL AFTER HIS VACATION, REMEMBER 2010…

      Obama doesn’t care, for the first two years you heard about a grand plan of stimulus but nothing else. Then he took that stimulus and gave it out to friends, acedemics and not to the working class that needed them to keep working. Then when he was asked about it in 2010, he put it off until after another vacation: http://www.americanparchment.com/video/2011/aug/obama_jobs_vacation.html

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    • FR33D0MF16HT3R
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 1:36am

      Obama jobs speech [rough draft]………….”I have created over 1058 jobs on my very own; let’s see, there are all of my czars and their staffs. The rest of the country can go soak in a mud hole.” VP Biden ….”Now that’s a big Fing deal.” Goodnight America, love ya – not really!!!

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    • the hawk
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 3:06am

      bETTER NOT MESS WITH my FOOTBALL !

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    • Steve
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 3:26am

      “As The Blaze Blog pointed out, the move by Obama to schedule his jobs speech during the GOP presidential debate even drew criticism among liberals.”

      Except for some of the morons who post here!. You know who you are.

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    • Steve
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 3:29am

      ProbIemSoIver

      Please stop with the racists remarks about your phone calls. Don’t want to give the black carcass anymore reason to hate us more then they do. Like the muslims we must try to appease and reflect.

      lol

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    • GETLIFE
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 4:46am

      Go on over to one of those “socially happy” countries and live and work for a while, THELONIOUS. After decades of experience, I see that European socialism is nothing more than modern secular monarchism.

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    • GETLIFE
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 5:54am

      “Social happiness,” eh THELONIOUS? Socialism is not progress. It develops a snotty elite ruling class, and corruption on all sides due to all the public monies floating around out there. It requires a grey sense of insecurity, and therefore dependence, on the part of “the people.” Socialists manage to re-create a system whereby an “educated” elite live off of and rule over “the masses,” only this time without religion. It is nothing more than a remake. It doesn‘t work socially and it doesn’t work economically. I am speaking from decades of experience living and working in a socialist country.

      True revolution is what our founding fathers did. They tried to preserve and protect this advance for the freedom of the common man with our Constitution. Socialism takes away the common man’s responsibility for his own life. It is a step backwards.

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    • Quagmir
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 6:23am

      Am I the only one who thinks Obama was Ok with moving it back a day so he would have an extra day to come up with something. He said he would do it a week after his vacation but i think if asked to push it back a month he would have as well because he doesnt have ANYTHING but the same ol repeated speeches all put into one.

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    • RightUnite
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 9:03am

      @TRADEEXPERTBUYSELL… Nice! Thank you! Exactly what I was thinking!

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    • rangerp
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 10:03am

      Mr President –
      Your jobs speech has nothing to do with jobs, it is another one of your campaign speeches. It is not the place of the federal government to create jobs. Did you not take history in your Muslim school? Have you ever studied the great depression? All of the programs and projects started by the federal government and FDR, failed to kick start the economy. WWII is what fixed our economy. The federal gov is not the fix. Did you not study our economy when Jimmy Carter put us into a down ward spiral. Reagan did not create jobs, he eased the burden on those that do create jobs, and they flourished.

      If you will get off the back of the American business people and corporations, they will create jobs. America is great because of its people, not because of its government. Union power and over regulation is destroying jobs in America (look at Detroit).

      Go back and play more golf, you socialism is not helping, it is destroying. Take a big long vacation until the next election, let Americans fix America. You are destroying it. Then again, what she we expect from a president who declared his run for the presidency in the home of a anti-American terrorist who blew up bombs in our subways, and openly called for a revolution that killed millions of American capitalists.

      Take a quick look at your previous speeches, and the businesses that you held up as the example. Most of these have crumbled, and are no longer in business. Take a look at GM (once

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    • Kalish
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 12:47pm

      I was at the doctor’s office this morning and they had CNN on, and they were spinning this like crazy, they were making it sound like the two parties were bickering about a date, they DID NOT MENTION ONCE THAT THE REPUBLICANS HAD THEIR DEBATES SCEDUTLED FOR THAT DATE FOR MONTHS IN ADVANCE AND THAT THE WHITE HOUSE KNEW THIS OR SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THIS

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  • Logic77
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:17pm

    Obama surrendered like a cheese monkey.

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    • randy
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:21pm

      CHeeze Monkey? haha I like that…….. Velveeta?

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    • mgcre
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:33pm

      OK! That’s hilarious! But what’s a cheese monkey?

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    • Logic77
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:37pm

      Whatever you want it to be. ;)

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    • Laus Deo
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 12:21am

      Cheese-eating surrender monkey, no?

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    • biohazard23
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 5:30am

      A Newport-smoking, burger-chowing, golf club-swinging, ideology-driven, tantrum-throwing, cheese-eating surrender monkey.

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  • badkarma33
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:16pm

    The President did not defer to the Speaker. The President has to gain permission from the Speaker of the House to address a joint session of Congress. The President had no choice if the Speaker denied the request. My hat is off to the Speaker for standing his ground and making the President blink. I do not believe this will cause any votes to be swayed next year. It was like a game of marco polo and the White House just got called as a fish out of water.

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  • Mateytwo Barreett
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:15pm

    Well, shucks!!! That sure didn’t work out, did it? Which of the dolts dya ‘spose broke the news to the Won?!?!?

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  • dontbotherme
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:15pm

    I am proud of Boehner. Didn’t think he had it in him.

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    • Bluebonnet
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 12:26am

      I agree. I was wondering how Boehner would handle this. Give him a pat on the back for work well done, my good and faithful servant. God Bless Boehner.

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  • OlefromMN
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:14pm

    My local paper (Minneapolis StarTribune) had the latest update (it was credited to the NYT) headlined “Boehner gets his way…”

    How childish is this getting? The administration and media was fully aware of the GOP debate schedule long before Obama even had a “plan” to announce his “plan”. School yard politics? Or school yard reporting?

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    • Pujols
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:22pm

      CONSERVATIVES, Don’t be afrid of this Half Boy. The middle does not like Him or what He is doing to our Coutry. The Blacks should hate Him because it is twice as bad for them as it was 3 years ago, but they are Brain Washed and Ignorat. They have been lied to so long they believe what ever the Dems tell them.

      Stand tall and strong and we will get behind you. God Bless America. PRAY TODAY!

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    • Mateytwo Barreett
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:30pm

      @Pujols
      That $3.50- er$3.6… $4.00 /ga;. gas keeps the lowriders awful close to home!! Gubmionnt checks need to be bigger!! S’all dey is to it!!

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    • Scottmcm
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:36pm

      You can always count on the Star and Sickel to use a cheap shot headline.

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    • wtfpeople
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 11:44pm

      @ pujols
      What is a half boy number one? number two it’s spelled ignorant. and number three as a black conservative i have to so say shove it. it’s not about race at all, liberals are liberals.

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  • Freedombeliever
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:12pm

    Good God. So now Obummer hopes to piss football lovers off at Republicans by this reschedule? Really? This. Is. The. Worst. President. Ever.
    He behaves like a petulant boy in a schoolyard, with all of his fellow bullies, the media, right behind him.
    Pray for America my friends because I assure you this current regime is not praying and if they are it is not for America!

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  • Robert999
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:12pm

    This shows Boehner and the Republicans are really in charge and not Obama and the commie Dems.

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  • ChevalierdeJohnstone
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:12pm

    Obummer didn’t “defer” to the Speaker. He didn’t have any authority to call a joint session of Congress in the first place. Only Congress can call a joint session of Congress. Speaker Boehner has apparently read enough of the Constitution to know this.

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  • FreedomsQB
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:11pm

    Shouldn’t they have moved it up? Every day is a day that Americans are suffering and not even a Repub Blab Fest should get in the way of getting the ball rolling for the unemployeed. That being said – this job plan will probably be a total blah blah blah fest. This President and the people he has surrounding him don’t have a clue on what is involved in creating jobs that contribute to the economy of The USA. But they are Damn good at killing them by the MILLIONS using acronyms like EPA, FDA, OSHA, SEIU, IRS, DEA, BTAF, FBI, AwDA, DOJ, DOI, BLM, USPS, USFS, etc……. there are 10‘s of thousands of regulations and proceedures that keep the Gov’t busy and the economy dragging.

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    • SHOWMESTATEGUY
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:18pm

      You speak the truth. Watch out the dem libs are going to be coming for you.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:25pm

      I hope the entire Republican Party yells out, “You lie” in unison. That would be fantastic. Rude but, fantastic.

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    • Wake up and discern the truth
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 1:39am

      Wow, you are so right. Listing the job killers is classic. You know this speech and big announcement took several minutes to develop (put a new name on the last jobs plan) and will definitely cost multiple billions of dollars that we don’t have. Please don’t let him propose extending unemployment benefits again, etc. He is hastening our demise. LORD, help us endure it.

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  • Smokey_Bojangles
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:04pm

    What station is football on?Hope it is not a tingly leg Obama loving station!

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    • CatB
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:07pm

      I will watch ANY station over Obummer!

      TEA!

      another TOTUS speech — look left look right .. never at WE THE PEOPLE!

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    • Steve
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 3:35am

      Cant stand to hear his voice. Nothing but lies exit his mouth.

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  • bulletsinthegun
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:03pm

    hey I can watch football and don’t have to be blasted by Potus

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  • Uncle Sammy
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:02pm

    WOW.. maybe there is hope for the president after all… NAHHHH.. What the heck was I thinking ?

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  • FEMALL
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:02pm

    All I can think about is the “Heidi” incident. We can only hope…

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  • searching for the Truth
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:01pm

    GBTV- it will do well.

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  • Restoration & Improvement
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:00pm

    Isn’t the first day of football season. He is a waste………………

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  • 13th Imam
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 9:59pm

    Barry’s a schoolyard dufus. And he MUCH have stunad advisers surrounding him. What a pathetic stunt.

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    • CatB
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:05pm

      Growing up in a foreign land looks like Obummer didn’t learn how to play with others .. he is NOTHING BUT A BULLY and they get smacked down in the end.

      TEA!

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    • chips1
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 8:18am

      His White House Tribe is selling the black Americans into slavery just as they did before. It’s in the majority of their upbringing. Gimmie gimmie gimmie. Take care of me cause I don’t have a father figure.

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  • SHOWMESTATEGUY
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 9:59pm

    BO and his liberal dems have no shame. It’s all about winning an election. It is going to be a wild ride for the next 12 months.

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  • Emrys
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 9:59pm

    Good Job Speaker Boehner! Such a stupid juvenile stunt by the White House deserves to be shot down swiftly and totally.

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    • CatB
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:03pm

      Finally …. a backbone .. hopefully since he found it .. he won’t lose it again (Boehner)

      Obama fail …

      TEA!

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    • db321
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:20pm

      A Texas Congressman said today that OB has shoved through by executive order over 200 new Business Regulation this year that will cost America 100 million for each one. They are bits and pieces of the Cap and Trade amendment that was voted down.

      These 200 new regulations will strangle American Businesses and will restrict business from hiring.

      Shame on OB – No Human Being is above the people of any Country – much less America. This is serious.

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  • STFU
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 9:59pm

    Hahahahahahaha!

    Obama = FAIL

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  • RepubliCorp
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 9:58pm

    National Football or Obama? taking bets

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:02pm

      The purpose of sports on TV is to keep the population busy watching something else other than what the politicians are doing. Keep the masses busy with something else and pass any Bill you want.
      This was planned from the start. So I guess you are going to watch a stupid football game instead of what the Pres plans to do to rape America some more?

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 3:53am

      actually……I couldn’t care less about football. I also think the president has lost his luster and not even the Lids are looking for answers from Obama. His plan will be about pumping more money to his cronies and finding a way to blame someone else for lack of jobs.

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  • bankerpapaw
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 9:58pm

    Good for you, Speaker Boehner, for not caving to the man child. He is now at the White House
    sucking his thumb and sulking.

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    • trolltrainer
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:30pm

      No, they are both together sharing a smoke. Check out the picture in the above article…

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  • MODEL82A1
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 9:58pm

    And voilà! Boehner is a successful painted as an unreasonable, radical obstructionist. I guarantee there will even be a snide reference to this in the 08SEP speech itself.

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    • trolltrainer
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:06pm

      You know what though? So what? Every move Republicans will be criticized and the closer we get to the elections the more rabid, loud, and stupid the feigned anger from the left will become…

      Let the stupid dogs bark…

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    • CatB
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:09pm

      So what .. he will do the same thing either way … it ALWAYS pays to STAND UP to a Bully!

      TEA!

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  • GeorgieJo
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 9:57pm

    WHO is advising Obummer ON these stupid ideas?
    and WHO is going to listen to the SAMO SAMO speech on jobs?

    Pathetic.
    No Bo in 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • 111gecko
    Posted on August 31, 2011 at 9:55pm

    How embarrassing for POTUS….the Green Bay Packers will have more people watch than this guy…..well I suppose it is only fair; at least the game will be something we have never seen or heard before…

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:00pm

      The purpose of sports on TV is to keep the population busy watching something else other than what the politicians are doing. Keep the masses busy with something else and pass any Bill you want.
      This was planned from the start.

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    • vnachi77
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:01pm

      A WNBA game would have more people watching it than another meaningless national address by Obama. A elected county dog catcher conveys more reliable and pertinet information while taking a dump than a speech by our so called “leader.”

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 10:14pm

      @vnachi77
      Don’t fall for that “leader” stuff. The President and Congress are representatives of the American public.
      They might call themselves leaders but they are there to represent us. Period.

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    • vnachi77
      Posted on August 31, 2011 at 11:24pm

      Monk, the leader bit was in quotes as to convey the obsurity of the majority of our elected officials believing that they are in fact, leaders. And if they think they are actually representing us, then they are more delusional then I previously thought. Press Sec. Carey said today that scheduling the address was done w/o regard to anything else on TV, from Animal Planet to the cooking channel. I’m thinking Animal Planet, you?

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    • INTHEBEGININGGOD
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 8:00am

      I am a Republican and a Conservative and a Tea Partier. ( How bout that, is that a mouth full. ) And with obama giving into Boehner it was just GREAT, and shows how weak he is and who is advising him. It just shows that he knows NOTHING how to run a televised speech let alone the country.

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    • TSUNAMI-22
      Posted on September 1, 2011 at 10:29am

      @ The-Monk

      The purpose of sports on TV is to keep the population busy watching something else other than what the politicians are doing. Keep the masses busy with something else and pass any Bill you want. This was planned from the start.
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      Exactly. Obama knows exactly what he’s doing. Deceit is his weapon of choice and blissful ignorance of the general public is his ally.

      Am I only one of a few that sees the horns on this guy?

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