Obama Uses Sasha & Malia in Response to Limbaugh Controversy Over Sandra Fluke
- Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:27pm by
Tiffany Gabbay
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Speaking in response to conservative firebrand Rush Limbaugh’s recent comments about Georgetown University agitator Sandra Fluke, President Obama used the opportunity to draw reference to his own daughters, Sasha and Malia, saying he would never “want them attacked or called horrible names” for simply being “good citizens.”
Obama stated:
I can comment on the fact that all good folks can agree that the remarks that were made don’t have any place in the public discourse. And you know, the reason I called Ms. Fluke is because I thought about my daughters, and one of the things I want them to do as they get older is to engage in issues they care about, even ones I may not agree with them on. I want them to be able to speak their mind in a civil and thoughtful way… I do not want them attacked or called horrible names because they are being good citizens, and I wanted Sandra to know that I thought her parents should be proud of her, and that we want to send a message to all of our young people that being part of a democracy involves argument and disagreements and debate, and we want you to be engaged, and there’s a way to do it that doesn’t involve you being demeaned and insulted, particularly when you are a private citizen.
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Kat4Freedom
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:04pmWhere was obama‘s voice when Sara Palin’s daughter Bristol, was being ripped apart by all his supporters. She was just a child and they talked about her like she was some kind of dog. Obama sure didn’t call her, he didn’t even address it. I guess he couldn’t afford to loose any votes or money
Report Post »redbone007
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:29pmWhere was he when they attacked Sarah’s little baby boy?
Report Post »vtxphantom
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:03pmThe reason he called Fluke was his re election campaign and creating a heretofor nonexistant problem an issue for his election. His kids are just more pawns to be used. How low can this guy go? He is a slug!
Report Post »turkey13
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:12pmDid the president just say that if his girls spread em it’s ok and that they will be good citizens?
Report Post »ANTISOCIAL-IST
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:15pmphantom, this is all and wholly about grabbing some more women’s votes of who may have been on the fence about barry by deceitfully saying, see, they hate women, blahblahblah.
Report Post »martinez012577
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:02pmThis is a non story. Who cares what Rush or the president say about some woman. These are all distraction stories being used to keep people from talking about our up coming war on Iran, our out of control spending, the debt that is growing daily, and the freedoms we as Americans are losing weekly in the name of keeping us safe.
I want a president that worries with these issues.
Spending – Cut a trillion off the budget first year.
Debt – Have the budget balanced in 3 years while paying down debt.
War – End the overseas wars that dont seem to end. Stop the nation building and global police force.
Freedoms – We are losing freedoms weekly it seems and we have people like West and Rubio going along with it for our own good. We need to wake up and listen to what a pretty smart man once said..
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin
Report Post »Chromo200
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:14pmExcellent comment.
Report Post »Razorhunters
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:14pmkeep spreading the truth…
Report Post »Faith1029
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:15pmOk, so where was he when Ed Schultz called Laura Ingram the same thing? What about Sarah Palin? Did he call these women? They certainly are milking this. How obvious that this is being used to distract from the real issues.
Report Post »ppeltonen
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:25pmBrilliant comment!
Report Post »Want our country back
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:27pmThis is a distraction…. good point
obama gave hillary & McCain the middle finger when he was running against them… I have that visual forever burned in my mind…. w
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:28pmWhere was Obama when they attacked Joe the Plumber and other “private citizens?”
Report Post »Docrow
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:30pmyup!
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:32pmYes good comment.. but if we don’t fight for human life…what good is liberty?
Report Post »sawbuck
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:45pmHis next step is a push for some kind of “fairness doctrine”
Report Post »I would say that’s a issue. Being it’s the 1st amendment and all.
turkey13
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 5:06pmIt is a non-story. Unless his girls have sex with a Secret Service guy they will be 30 year old virgens one day. If he let’s them date it will be with orders to shot if the guy starts any heavy petting.
Report Post »JohnnyMidknight
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 5:17pmActually, Barry… Can I call you Barry?
Being a “Good Citizen” would mean being less invasive on your fellow citizens by demanding that they pay for your stuff. I mean, woman spent the sexual revolution to become independent and self sufficient. Am I wrong? Why would a true feminist contribute to a system that will make the males pay for 75% of their BC? I say 75% because men do not need BC so they will be not paying for theirs but all the women’s BC. Even if 50% of the population are males, I am willing to bet that most males that are single do not have children (or are given custody). Also, thanks to such high divorce rates, single males are more inclined to have to pay taxes as they would not qualify for EITC (Earned Income Tax Credit). Seeing as Single mothers are a large portion of EITC, they generally pay no taxes and get more taxes then they paid into the system. This means that men will be sharing the brunt of taxation to pay for the female “medical needs” of BC. The 75% is not a scientific number, but a pretty good guess-timation.
So Barry, how is asking for this being a “Good Citizen” again?
Report Post »RamonPreston
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 5:25pmThe way Obama is going there won’t be an America for them to grow up in.
Report Post »MCDAVE
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 5:31pmTHIS is a must see video on AGENDA 21…http://my.brainshark.com/Agenda-21-for-Public-Officials-472185383?mid=5560
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 5:34pmNow that Barry’s bringing his girls into the political fray, will David Letterman be demanding that they be g@ngb@nged at a baseball game as he did for Palin’s younger daughter?
Report Post »Mark0331
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 5:35pmWe The People Sorround Them…are you free or are you a slave? I am a free man and the lies from this Govt bs artist have hit a new all time high. He does not care one bit about us…it is painfully obvious after watching this…get ready folks, he himself is starting to feel the pressure.
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 6:34pmJust an observation…Dont Muslims run and hide behind ther children??????????? Oops…..
Report Post »Beckofile
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 6:47pm“I hope that you the taxpayer can buy Sasha and Melia some rubbers so that I can call them and tell them I am a proud daddy”….Love Daddy BO
WTF is happing here?
Report Post »Marci
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:50pmOh b.s. Obama also said he didn’t want either of his girls “punished with a baby”. He doesn’t care what Bill Maher or the ladies of The View call conservative women, so hypocrisy is on grand display here. As for it being a non-story, I guess those who say it is need to read what the story is about. It really isn’t about Fluke or Rush, it‘s about Obama’s clear hypocrisy and the fact that he only plugs in when it is politically expedient to a cause he holds dear—in this case, abortion, not only abortion, but publicly funded abortions.
Report Post »Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on March 7, 2012 at 5:04pmFunny how Obama told the media to stay away from his daughters, but he can use them as an example any time he wants. I can’t wait till we send this guy packing in November. This time next year he will be installing sinks in the Habitat houses Jimmy Carter is building.
Report Post »JP4JOY
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:02pmFirst he spouts off about not wanting his daughters “burdened” by an unwanted pregnancy now he wants them to be poster children for the slutty left.
Report Post »Chuck Stein
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:10pmSome daddy, huh?
Report Post »KenInIL
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:56pmSo has asked Obama if his daughters have started having sex on a regular basis yet? After all all schools now teach how it is done and where babies come from in the 5th grade. I believe homosexual sex has been added to the curriculum recently. Has he explained that to his daughters. Which do they prefer? He needs to answer these types of questions if his admin is foisting LGBT awareness on our kids. I have no gripe with LGBT folks, except I think kids should try the straight path before they deviate.
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:59pmBarrack, Don’t worry Bro, I’m sure that your daughters will grow up and need lots of contraception and abortions, you must be so proud of them…
Report Post »the wireworker
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 5:07pmi was gonna say the same thing, he calls the ABORTION ACTIVIST fluke and supports her position (not to mention this whole thing was set up to look like a hearing so her being a “good citizen” is a bit of a stretch when deception was at the heart of the whole thing) and then he brings his daughters into it the same ones he doesn’t want to come home with a MISTAKE.
barack hussein obamas policies=smoke & mirrors
Report Post »Baddoggy
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 6:35pmJust like a Muslim…Hide behind the kids….
Report Post »greatgrandma
Posted on March 7, 2012 at 6:59amI don’t think Obama has much to worry about Sasha getting pregnant. Who would want someone who can’t stand up straight and her arms hang loose and sway around her body?
Report Post »djp70124
Posted on March 7, 2012 at 3:22pmSad, he uses his daughters as a shield and then he does not want them involved. He should of hid behind his wife.
Report Post »HKS
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:01pmDo as we say, not as we do, Liberals are the biggest bashers on the planet. They have been bashing Palen for three years non stop, all the networks, all the liberals ever her kids, won’t even mention all the others. What a hypocrite. How can he look at that sorry mug every morning in the mirror.
Report Post »ANTISOCIAL-IST
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:19pmc’mon, we’ve seen the pictures w/his chin up in the air ala dictator-style. you know he practices that pose in the mirror. maybe chrissy’s there getting a thrill in his bunghole watching king bho getting the look down pat.
Report Post »PAlibertybelle
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:23pm” I do not want them attacked or called horrible names because they are being good citizens, and I wanted Sandra to know that I thought her parents should be proud of her, and that we want to send a message to all of our young people that being part of a democracy involves argument and disagreements and debate, and we want you to be engaged, and there’s a way to do it that doesn’t involve you being demeaned and insulted, particularly when you are a private citizen.”
Oh please, someone put up the link to obama himself calling us teabaggers. Hypocrite!
Report Post »sawbuck
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:36pmI smell a Hugo Chavez “fairness doctrine” coming our way.
Report Post »It has that unpleasant aroma to it…!
bikerr
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:55pmObama says—– “the reason I called Ms. Fluke is because I thought about my daughters,”………Doesn’t that break some law somewhere.?..Sounds creepy,real creepy!
Report Post »SpankDaMonkey
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:52pm.
Report Post »Well tell them Brag about needing 3 condoms a day………
Locked
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:59pmStrawman argument is a strawman…
Report Post »Whirling Dervish
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:07pmLatex gives me rash, I would like custom sheepskin XXXL, put it on my insurance card please.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:13pmClearly Bannister’s sarcasm is lost on LOCKED.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:24pm@Avengerk
“Clearly Bannister’s sarcasm is lost”
Report Post »… on Spankdamonkey, Beck, and Limbaugh? Yes, apparently so :-)
AvengerK
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 5:08pmNo LOCKED…just on you sport. Is SPANK’s nuance lost on you champ? Apparently so.
Report Post »dsind
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:50pmhe wants his children to engage in stuff like fluke?
Report Post »booger71
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:57pmYes, that is what the food stamp president wants
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:50pmWhen this idiot references his own daughters into this, It shows just how much low class he is.
Report Post »I’m sorry to say being raised by this man and his idiot wife they will grow up to be takers. Don’t work for it take from those that do, he is teaching them well by his actions..
dmerwin
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:55pmIt’s always about him, he ALWAYS tells his story in the first person.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:01pmWell if his daughters go in front Of congress claiming to be 23 and needing a 1000 a year in government aid to furnish contraception for their sexual appitites THEY’RE SLUTS AND IF THEY LIED ABOUT THEIR AGE THEIR LYING SLUTS.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:42pm@smithclar3nc3
I know you might be upset, but please lets not go there. Adults is one thing kids are another.
Report Post »smithclar3nc3
Posted on March 7, 2012 at 11:05amajayw,
Report Post »I didn’t go anywhere nor did I drag the obama kids into this Obama did. I merely spoke the facts if Obama’s daughter when in front of Congress saying they needed the tax payers to buy a 1000 dollars worth of condoms a years to keep them from getting pregnant…they would be sluts and leeches.
This guy a piece of work he brings his family into a debate and then say keep them out of it when anyone retort.
smokeyridgerunner
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:48pmWho is Rush‘s sponsor’s? I would love to know so I may stop buying from them!
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:56pmHis sponsors are TROJAN, Solyndra, GE, and Jeagermeister. Have a ball.
Report Post »A Voice Crying in the Wilderness
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:56pmGRANNYRECIPE
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 6:38am
For those supporting Rush:
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(phone)800-580-2913
(email)customerservice@citrix.com
(gotomypc.com and gotomeeting.com)
(phone) 800-424-8749
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Report Post »DIVINEPROVIDENCE1776
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:57pmMay I suggest you go to a communist friendly website where you can get your radical hate fest on. Rush will never leave the airwaves unless he dies. Now go polish your communist star.
Report Post »bikerr
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:57pmHey smokey, Go to huff and puff or politico. Not really sure you can afford the advertisers stuff anyways.
Report Post »bikerr
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:59pmSorry ,smokey—I totally mis -read your post. I kinda feel dumb right now.
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:02pmMaybe you should tune into Rush. Open your closed liberal mind.
Report Post »A Voice Crying in the Wilderness
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:02pmGRANNYRECIPE
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 6:38am
For those supporting Rush:
(email)wecare@customercare.ProFlowers.com
(phone)800-580-2913
(email)customerservice@citrix.com
(gotomypc.com and gotomeeting.com)
(phone) 800-424-8749
(online) http://legalzoom.force.com/LZWTC
(phone) 800-773-0888
(phone) Quicken loans: (800) 863-4332
(online)http://www.sleepnumber.com/eng/aboutus/redirect.cfm?sectionid=contact/contact.cfm
Report Post »(phone): 1-888-411-2188
Le Sellers
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:08pmThis, “Who IS Rush‘s sponsor’s” is all we need to know about the level of education of this sput.
What I’d like to know is how do we tell the losers who left what we think about them. I know ProFlowers, and SelectComfort will get none of my business. The other eight need to be aware of my decision, too. Maybe others will join me. And, to counter the impotent “smokeyridgerunner”, I’d like to triple my commerce with the majority of them who are left. Maybe I need to re-up my subscription to 24/7.
Report Post »TOMSERVO
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:42pmHahahahaha you guys are too dumb even to know when to support one of your own or to attack a liberal! Get a clue, get some reading comprehension, get some tolerance.
Report Post »Minonkman
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:48pmI think it should be up to the employer, it is his nickel. If you do not want to work there….then find a job that has a better health plan. The government has no business in the middle of this, a free market system will bring the cream to the top so to speak.
Report Post »RightUnite
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:47pmOk, so when is he going to go after those on the left with their nasty talk about Conservatives?? What?? Are those crickets I hear??
Report Post »AmazingGrace8
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:01pmMy thoughts exactly. Fair & balanced? Not!
Report Post »extinction
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:45pmVery brave (sarcasm) of him to bring his daughters into the fray to shield him. Of course he wants his daughters to emulate Fruke. Free birth control would ensure that they won’t be “punished” with a baby!
Report Post »shimauma
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:43pmSOOOO barry hussien’s daughters being “loose” makes them good citizens????? libturd logic at it’s finest!
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:47pmYes … gonna make them “proud”…..
Report Post »Razorhunters
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:43pmanybody have proof that those are his daughters…?
anyone…?
just sayin’…
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:46pmHe has kids? .. I thought we weren’t allowed to notice …. like don’t talk about Chelsea Clinton … but going after the Palin kids is a okay!
Report Post »momprayn
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:08pmI must admit, those thoughts have crossed my mind — and why not? Everything I’ve learned about this evil man is fraudulent and know that they pulled every trick in the book to get him elected. He had to look “presidential”, traditional American — so he says he’s a Christian (and we know how that goes), married, two nice little girls, etc. Who knows. I just feel so sorry for them.
Report Post »TOMSERVO
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:08pmYes! This is the next winning issue for the GOP! Obviously they aren’t his daughters, since he’s an evil socialist terrorist muslim robot cyborg. No doubt it will be just as popular, successful, and reasonable as the birther movement. Razorhunters, YOU are the man to do this! God bless you
Report Post »Razorhunters
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:23pmsorry , but my lawsuit against his re-election was tossed due to no standing.
as have others who have challenged…120+.
but , i do thank you tomservo for the sentiments even tho you were being sarcastic…
i care nothing for the gop or dnc …both worthless traitors. well 98% of them are…
Report Post »TOMSERVO
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:40pmYikes buddy, you sound like a total loon.
Sheesh, even the crazy birthers who actually do think that President Obama is in some way illegitimate know that this is a losing issue. Give it a frickin rest.
Report Post »Razorhunters
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:46pmguess you missed arpaio’s criminal investigation.
it is ongoing , these are just preliminary findings.
keep deflecting and blowing bs…
Report Post »SavEcig.com
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:41pm“…I wanted Sandra to know that I thought her parents should be proud of her,”
Let the vetting begin! We are not only going to vet Obama, we are going to vet Ms Fluke. Obama just opened the door to vetting her parents too. What is their agenda? Who do they contribute too?
Report Post »sparkspeaks
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 9:02pmExcellent point….
Report Post »VoteRightDammit
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:40pmGosh – I wouldn’t want them called the “c” word either.
But then, since they are no doubt socialists like their parents, this will not happen. Such vulgarity and vileness is the sole prerogative of the socialists and is not practiced by conservatives (those who live in the light).
Report Post »DGeezy11
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:40pmDid he really just call our nation a democracy? Wow… It is a REPUBLIC and has always been one!!
Report Post »RightUnite
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:46pmHe’s just showing once again, his absolute ignorance.
Report Post »patspeak
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:13pmDGeezy11 it amazes me. The leftist claim Oboy is a Constitutional expert. I for one am sick and tired of him and any American calling this great nation a Democracy. It’s a “Republic”. I wonder how that “Democracy thingy” is working out in Libya for Obama?
Report Post »Mark0331
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 6:23pmYes he did…and it rolled off his forked tounge so easily…..scary stuff.
Report Post »Infidel49
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:39pmOh, now he opens his big trap. What about when the libs attack conservative women with some very vile attacks, he doesn’t say shiite. She opened herself up to it by opening herself up too much. Blow it out your azz barry.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:38pmTo Obama “being a good citizen” = demanding religious people pay for baby killing.
Obama would sanction the murder of his own grandchildren http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jszkPtsFH-k
Report Post »DEFCON4
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:02pmpunished with a baby ………good grief
Report Post »Nlitend1
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:36pmBefore everyone jumps on the ‘slut’ boat and gets all nasty calling this woman names…please understand that no matter how many times you have sex, you only need to take 1 pill a day. She could be having sex 10X/day or once a year, she could be in a monogomous relationship or she could be hitting the bars every night….it doesn’t matter, because her point is that insurance should cover birth control for any woman in this catholic institution, just like it would cover viagra or heart medication.
Report Post »13th Imam
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:01pmOr 1 Aspirin, placed between the knees. she could also share the bottle of aspirin with the 40 % of Georgetown Law females that are also sluts.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:36pmAh, the left never tires of using their kids as polititcal pawns.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:45pmJust don’t anyone on the right even notice that they have kids … all he!! will break loose .. but of course they can go after the Palin kids .. even little Trig (special needs)
Report Post »Locked
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:46pmBe fair, Gonzo; both sides do it. Palin’s family was a huge focus in 2008; she made being a successful mother as well as politician one of her key features. Santorum’s done the same in 2012; arguing that he’s been homeschooling his children to give them proper values, recounting the story of his family dealing with the death of his newborn son as his reason for opposing pre-natal screening, etc.
I don’t like it either; Obama’s always used his family in this way. But any politician with a good family life does it; they‘ll take any advantage that’s available. It’s hardly one side or the other (in fact, I’d argue that since conservatives tend to have good family values, they do it more often).
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:15pmGONZO…let’s not forget the stinky OWSer who put her own child on a railway track to stop a train from entering the port they were protesting. The left is willing to use anyone and anything for it’s agenda.
Report Post »Tri-ox
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:34pmobama is gross.
Report Post »GeorgieJo
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:39pmI LOOK forward to the debates with Obummer and the Republican candidate. Anybody notices how he hems and haws and pauses like he is trying to speak correctly? NO TELEPROMPTER this TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OMG 2012
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:31pmIf he veiws comments upon Fluke… as possible comments upon his Daughters… then if the Shoe Fits…
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:41pmI thought about that too. He owes his own kids an apology if you ask me.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:30pmObama has officially hit a new low now – daring to drag his kids into the matter. He shows clearly he has no integrity or honor. None – just an opportunist and a traitor.
Report Post »Locked
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:34pmAll politicians do it. Palin exploited her family in 2008. Santorum has done the same with his in this election cycle. I agree with you that it stinks; but it’s something all politicians pull for if they can. Any advantage is an advantage.
Report Post »chips1
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 3:45pmObama once related that he didn’t want his girls to be punished with a child. I think he has it backwards. His kids are going to be punished having an unwanted parent. Only a minion of Lucifer could get so many things wrong.
Report Post »bpodlesnik
Posted on March 6, 2012 at 4:20pmAgreed. It was the first thing that came to mind when I saw the article. Another thing is, Obama is really going on about this. I know it’s not uncommon for the media to keep on about it, but Obama is really dragging this out. This is really getting annoying.
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