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Obama Leaves Bill Clinton at White House Podium

President Barack Obama must have lots of faith in Bill Clinton’s ability to sell a policy — even if the policy is Obama’s own. During a Friday afternoon joint press conference with Clinton, Obama interjected that he had other business to attend to, leaving Clinton to pitch Obama’s tax “compromise” to the White House press corps:

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  • uberconservative
    Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:20pm

    Well? What else would you expect from someone who hasn’t got a clue of how to sell anthing or have an original idea in his whole life.

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    • AFVET
      Posted on December 12, 2010 at 12:03pm

      Now let’s be fair folks.
      I want to know when Jimmuh Cotta gets his turn at the podium.
      I am not sure who OBs handlers are.
      Either they are completely ineffective, or Barry told them to pound sand.

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  • cece959
    Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:19pm

    And there you have it…the difference between experience and inexperience…class and classless.

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  • Room 101
    Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:17pm

    FLOTUS and I have a date with a large bacon cheeseburger with fries. You’re in good hands with Cigar Willie, press corps stooges.

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    • commonsenseguy
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:25pm

      they can have one , but we can,t and when we do get one we have to share with the whole world.

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  • jacquecustard
    Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:17pm

    Obama has no leadership skills what so ever. I don’t know what to do daddy , can you help me.(get me out of the pooo Bill )?

    Who is the President, Bill of the other imposter? What a joke, has Obama ever made a real decision in his life ?

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    • POIPNE
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 8:19pm

      JACQUE, I was wonderin’ that myself but judging from the way both the Bamster and Slick Willie acted, I’d have to guess that Michelle is actually in charge.

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    • jacquecustard
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 8:58pm

      Well at least we now know who’s on top !!!

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  • commonsenseguy
    Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:17pm

    he had to go and get his puppet strings reattached and he better not be late because the puppet master don’t like be held up he is in hurry to destroy America.

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  • sallyminster
    Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:16pm

    Pretty sure this guy was term limited (?). Don’t want his advice or input, that’s your job, “President” Obama… I can’t believe i have been lowered to insulting my president… Oh yeah, your wife, she can wait! You‘re the freakin’ president to a country that’s on fire…I guess she’s saying “let them eat cake (if it’s made of tofu!)”…Holy hell!

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  • lynda1276
    Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:15pm

    i almost feel sorry for Obama… i think he finally realizes he has no idea what he is doing. He is hiding under the desk in the Oval Office right now!!!

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  • Government SNAFU
    Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:15pm

    I never liked Clinton when he was president, Why in hell would I listen to him now!!!

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  • USSoldier
    Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:15pm

    Daddy, can you come tell the other kids to do what I say… they won’t listen to me!

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  • Coastie
    Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:14pm

    Look at the body language!!
    Obama with his arms folded across his chest is saying, “I don’t agree with what you are saying, I am uncertain, I don’t like this situation”.
    On the other hand, Clinton with his palms wide open says, “I feel comfortable around you, I like you, I am being honest, and I have nothing to hide.”

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    • commonsenseguy
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:22pm

      wrong, he is the same snake in the grass as he was back then. he is just another lefty in a brighter suit.!!!!!!!! honesty his not what i hear , and he has more skeletons in one pocket than we Americans have in the whole USA

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  • eteme
    Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:14pm

    Now batting…William Jefferson Clinton. His ERA for batting clean-up is less than stellar as of late but his over all average is still pretty good….I guess we are looking to Shake it up…

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  • EgoBrain
    Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:13pm

    He looked impotent, standing there. teehee

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:28pm

      I‘m not much into O’Reilly’s body language segment, but I would like to see Obama’s body language analyized. He looked pathetic…………Heck, he IS pathetic!

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    • EgoBrain
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 7:13pm

      I know! I was thinking the very same thing, watching this scene.

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  • Its Gonna Getcha
    Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:11pm

    Did Clinton say “Help Me” when it is suggested he is holding up the FLOTUS? “I don’t want her mad at me!” Hint to POTUS, who looked like he was about 7 years old, next to Bill Clinton who looked 70 years old. POTUS sees he ain’t getting the podium back, and makes a James Bond exit.

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  • biernd
    Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:11pm

    I have never seen anything like this in my life. I‘ve been calling friends trying to find out if I’m over reacting or watching the current President handing the podium over to a past president and then leaving the room for a party. This isn’t some fluff piece of legislation, this is about saving the economy and he turns it over to Bill Clinton. I’m utterly amazed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • truthwinz
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:18pm

      That was my reaction as well. I’m stunned. He actually said he’d been keeping the 1st lady waiting and had to go !

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    • Hokiedad
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:29pm

      I totally agree, I am absolutely amazed! Barack Obama is so far in over his head it isn’t even funny. i think what we are actually seeing is those that run the Democratic Party are showing that they know this presidency has been a disaster. they are bringing Clinton in because there is no one in the Democratic party that can save them. this is the equivalency of a Democrat fire sale and our country is burning. this is some real serious stuff going on and this man has NO answers. Everything he has done has been wrong, big time and we may be seeing the Democrat Party morph into the American Social Democrat Party. harry Truman is dead, long live the Czar comrade! God help us!

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:36pm

      well you know you don’t want to keep the mrs. waiting…especially if your mrs. is michelle!!!eeek

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    • SlimnRanger
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:49pm

      goes to show you who wears the pants in his hosehold

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    • shotzie52
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:57pm

      Same reaction here….BO , I have to go now, another Christmas Party….let them eat cake AGAIN!

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    • ChiefGeorge
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:59pm

      This is certainly a stunner!!! When first reading the title for the blog and seeing the picture of the two of them standing there I got another impression. Looked like Daddy come to bail out his wayward son. What did Clinton say to the sitting president of the United States of America as he left? Thank you??? Bill should have been referring to him as Mr. President just to make sure it was clear that we all know who actually is president. With Hillary at State and now this it really makes one wonder about what Obama/Hilliary discussed at that so secret meeting on the campaign trail. Forgot about that didn’t you? Likie this. Thank you Mr. President. See, they don’t even respect each other.

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    • teahugger
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 6:07pm

      If this were a sit-com…Obama just jumped the shark!

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    • GeorgieJo
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 6:45pm

      Biernd
      I only caught the last few minutes but was in absolute shock that SlickBill was standing there verbosing away and BHO was standing there looking like a school boy wait ugh Clinton as a teacher? Billy’s ego is so HUGE,I’m amazed he can walk through a door. I agree with Snow—there’s something stinky going on and all I can do is hope and pray true Americans wake up and be aware.

      Just on the news now,Hillary needs to pay off her 2008 campaign debt Here’s a clue Give your daughter a cheaper wedding……no pay $ to spend time with SlickBill Pardon me? The whole press conference today was a 1600 Pennsylvania DISASTER

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    • t4christ73
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 12:49am

      ditto, okay, yeah…stunned.

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  • tarpon
    Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:10pm

    Obama loves ‘playing president’ … And who exactly was BJ talking to, the media?

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  • davecoolworld
    Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:09pm

    Clinton is trying teach Obama how to moderate. Someone should have taught him some basic business skills first.

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  • banderashovel
    Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:09pm

    so –i see the clintons are running the show- again…obomo—you can go back to kenya….

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  • ozchambers
    Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:09pm

    I heard Bill slipped Barry a $20 spot to be able to do this. Glory days, Bill. Glory days.

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  • Lora1967
    Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:05pm

    So our CURRENT president is getting advice from our IMPEACHED President. OHHHH THAT CAN’T BE PRETTY

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  • MOVIN2TEXAS
    Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:05pm

    I hope obama resigns after giving the presidency back to clinton

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  • Refounderparty
    Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:05pm

    I did not have sex with that woman. I feel all warm and fuzzy now.

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    • booger71
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:21pm

      That’s odd, I usually feel that way when I do have sex with that woman

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    • po-boy
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:40pm

      Kinda makes ya want to trust either one of these YoYo’s with your sister. Huh
      One would hold her down and the other would rape her. Soro’s would film it.

       
    • Cemoto78
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 5:33am

      Po-Boy,
      Now that was funny, and so true.

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  • snowleopard3200 {mix art}
    Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:02pm

    Mr Obama is now showing how desperate he has become in the running of the administration by the puppet master pulling his strings. Now the revolution is indeed coming, and watch out for Pelosi, there is most likely to be a suprise move on her part before the window closes on her in January. She and Van Jones (even if he is not an insider anymore) are the true dangers now.

    The storm is here and now, the danger present and clear to some, we must shout the final warnings to as many who will listen – and then ready to close up the doors to the storm shelter.

    No matter what comes, may God help us now.

    http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm

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    • Max jones
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:11pm

      Snow…i’ve read many, if not all your posts and agreee with you 99%. I know you are correct. That is the source of Obama’s weird actions of late, He knows that the hammer is raised. In one way I am relieved…I hate waiting for that other shoe to fall. In another way I know that there will be great suffering. And i weep for my nation snd people. God’s elect have the key to the kingdom. I think I know Why Christ wept.

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    • snowleopard3200 {mix art}
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:19pm

      @Max, thanks.

      I have been warning for years of the storm coming, being a studier of history has shown the pattern too many times for me to ignore it.

      The Chinese have a saying of ‘may you live in interesting times.’ It is a high insult for the time period. Guess indeed the times ahead shall be interesting.

      America will survive, I fear just how much hurt we will have to bear for the generations of hurbis we have commited in turning from God, and to ourselves.

      WE will WIN!!!

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    • broker0101
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:28pm

      MAX, None of SNOW’s thoughts are his/her own. They are rote regurgitation of Glenn Beck’s words, ideas and thoughts. If any of you had your own philosophies, you would not spend every waking moment desperately seeking validation from anonymous strangers on The Blaze.

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    • Maybe the GEESE Know More than the BEES Know
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:51pm

      @broker, i think everything you wrote is really a reflection of how you feel about yourself.

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    • 8jrts
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 6:22pm

      Broker is right only in that Beck has been saying this, and snow is seeing that he is right. The evidence is now in front of our faces.

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 6:59pm

      Yo snow why do think BO rushed to compromise?

      Part of me thinks this whole compromise is a show knowing Congress dems wouldn’t do it…Also to show BO reached to center but it’s the congress stopping him…Maybe to help his approval? I just feel somethings not right…None of this is normal and all seems odd…

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 8:24pm

      I think BROKER has a crush on snow….Smoochy smoochy…

      BROKER quit being a jerk please…You do this on every post..Add your thoughts and quit piggy backing on SNOW to have something to say..

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    • free2bme1961
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 3:26am

      @Broker101,
      I never thought I’d say this, but I agree….I don’t have anything against Snow or Max, but the latter part of your comment was correct.

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  • Midwest Belle
    Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:02pm

    That figures. Obama can‘t sell his plan so he’s calling in someone else.

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    • tobywil2
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:26pm

      Maybe it’s not the salesmanship that is the problem. Maybe the problem is the plan! It is hard to sell ice cubes to Eskimos In December. http://commonsense21c.com/

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 6:31pm

      The way Hussain is behaving, I wonder if the kid Hussain ever wiped his own @$$ or someone did it for him ?

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  • GMAN455
    Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:02pm

    just like a commie lib let someone else do your work for you

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    • cheezwhiz
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 6:27pm

      Hussain had more important presidential things to do, thats why he got Slick Willy to yap to the press.
      ( Hussain had to go to a Christmas party. )

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    • pavnvet
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 6:38pm

      Isn’t going to a Christmas party more important than the country? I don’t know what you folks could be thinking. I sure wouldn’t want to mess with Michelle. That woman would lay a hurt on you in a New York minute just by swinging her hips at you.

      How utterly sad. I bet our overseas friends are scratching their heads and our foes are laughing their butts off. Maybe they all are laughing?

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  • Johnwr41
    Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:00pm

    Once again, he votes “present” and bails.

     
    • RightUnite
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:09pm

      I think he had a golf game waiting him.

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    • ozchambers
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:11pm

      Bill slipped Barry a $20 so that he could relive his glory days.

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:17pm

      This was one of the most pathetic displays I have ever seen by a president!!
      Is there any way that he could appear more weak and pathetic than to have a former president come to his rescue and try to get those mean old Democrats off his back.
      I would have liked to be there when Obama asked Clinton to do a press conference for him. “Oh Bill can you help me? Those mean Democrats are picking on me and I’m not man enough or have enough leadership skills to deal with it all myself. They are hurting my feelings…..WAAAA!!!
      I felt creepy just watching as Obama stands off to the side while Clinton does Obama’s job. And then he leans in and excuses himself because his wife is waiting on him for some reason. And Clinton carries on the press conference for another 20mins or so, BY HIMSELF!!!
      What a joke this guy is!!

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    • pajamash
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:33pm

      Don’t get me wrong a spouse is EXTREMELY important, however, I would assume the White House called this new conference. Especially since they brought in Clinton. So, I am more than a bit perplexed that a waiting spouse circumvents national business and a news conference called by the President and his staff.

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:33pm

      is obama the only one that still likes clinton…because I think he’s an idiot and always been one…do you see the way he looks at clinton…jeezzz

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    • NickDeringer
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:41pm

      And it’s all on tape.

      It’s clear the presidency is interfering with his social life. But he is the greatest president ever. It’s OK to be incompetent as long as you have good intentions.

      NickDeringer  
    • HillBillySam1
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:43pm

      You know that Clinton is absolutely LOVING this!! If the Dems respond positively, Clinton will take credit by saying that it was HIS calming influence that made it possible. If it all falls apart, Clinton can chuckle and say “You guys should have voted for Hillary in the primaries!”. This guy loves the power and the spotlight and Obama has just given Bubba a HUGE ego boost. This has the potential of being the worst train wreck of the century. Where is my popcorn??

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    • Cliff
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:49pm

      I guess it is true… my mom told me as a little kid… ANYONE could become president!!!

      Unbelievable but true!!

      http://www.mentorlynx.com

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    • Tyler
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:51pm

      obama is such a weirdo! i love it! hahahaaha

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    • MAULEMALL
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 5:58pm

      WELL O WAS WITH THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT YOU KNOW…

      Seriously, when bill gets up there O is just there to get the coffee..

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    • knotaclu
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 6:04pm

      @Johnrw41: Once again, he votes “present” and bails.
      Now that is funny….

      @rationalman: Exactly. When I flipped over, Clinton was speaking and Obama was standing there like a lost puppy. I could not help but think what a pathetic site for a sitting president to do this…..

      Of course ex rebublican presidents gracefully fade into the sunset, unlike Carter and Clinton who will never go away….

      great posts people…..

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    • janedough1
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 6:06pm

      Boy, ain’t that the truth! I tried to tell friends that before the election. I looked him up on ProjectVoteSmart and saw that he rarely showed up to work in the Senate and rarely voted anything but present. I‘ve worked with plenty of people over the years who didn’t show up for work and didn’t do anything when they were there. I sure didn’t want one in the Oval Office.

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    • MrButcher
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 6:06pm

      will you shut the hell up about dadaism already!!!

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    • Highland
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 6:08pm

      What a buffoon. He must have had to watch Sportscenter or had a date with Reggie Love. In any event, if this idiot really didn’t want to be president, why did he inflict himself upon us?

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    • AzDebi
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 6:11pm

      Good One John!

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 6:12pm

      Desperation at it’s best…B.O. had to go to the previous “savior” Bill to try and settle down the Progressive maniacs…..Weak, incompetent, and desperate….Sucks to be them!!!

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    • 8jrts
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 6:16pm

      You said it!

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    • guyperram
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 6:17pm

      No nodadazone you are wrong. We are watching a careful plan, beautifully executed. Keep looking at meaningless tax raises (the actual amount of income varies very little from year to year, see Broke). Like any good chessmaster you use mis-direction to get your opponent to look where you want him to look, not where you do not want him to look.
      One of the two big pieces they need to complete the Facist take over is Net Nutrality. Muzzel the internet and the press. Let out only whjat they want you to see. Make it impossible to communicate. Checkmate! Watch what happens during the next 2 weeks. This will be done by the FCC. Whats a Congress?
      They need the military behind them. After all there will be those nasty Tea Party arch criminals to contend with. See who’s resigning. See who is serving overseas. See what political bent the in country officers have. Hitler could have taken lessons from these guys!

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    • BMartin1776
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 6:19pm

      The petulant child gets schooled is what it was. I wasnt a fan of Clinton but at least the guy knew what he was doing. BHO comes up with an excuse to get out of there b/c he knows Billy Boy was going to outshine him.

      http://www.savingtherepublic.com

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    • abc
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 6:30pm

      Typical of conservatives to pay attention to the unimportant, while ignoring the important. Not a single one of you can articulate intelligently what the economic trade-offs here are, or why the tea party movement looks totally hypocritical by NOT protesting the $900B shortfall created by failing to fight the GOP on rich people tax cuts that will not stimulate the economy. Better to focus on the meaningless drama and continue making unsupported ad hominem arguments in your fantasy land rather than face the real world of economic facts and figures. Typical conservatives’ denialism and ignorance.

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    • Diamondback
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 6:37pm

      @MrButcher:

      Who made you the comment moderator for this site?

      Freedom loving Americans don’t take too kindly to folks who think they can decide what other freemen say or not. We currently still have Freedom of Speech.

      If you don’t like the comments, just don’t read them; or, please feel free to go to some other website. But whatever you do, don’t come here telling others about what they should or should not remark. Maybe you’d fit in more in Iran, N. Korea, Cuba, Venezuela or like country.

      Thank you.

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 6:46pm

      @ABC

      Ding ding…Anything you need understanding on I can gladly help….

      STOP SPENDING!!!!! If we continue to allow government to overspend then come back to the piggy bank to take more we will never fix the problem…

      Secondly rich folk did not get us in this mess, we all did, therefore we should all pay for it..

      Last if you believe it is ok to tax based on wallet size, the same logic says you can tax based on sex, color, age, weight, etc…What happened to all men created equal? Targeting a small group is discriminating!!

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    • bigbear_awake
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 6:48pm

      To a CHRISTmas Party if i heard right

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    • chazman
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 6:51pm

      My God … who the hell is runnin’ the show over there?

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    • Diamondback
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 6:51pm

      @ABC:

      What $900B shortfall?

      Explain further please. And don‘t try the one about how much money the government and communist citizenry won’t be able to STEAL from their fellow citizens because of retaining the tax rates that have been in effect for approx. 10 years ALREADY. The first principle you DON‘T understand is that the fruits of other’s production belongs neither to you nor the government!!!! It BELONGS to the individual who invested their labor or other skills or resources into it’s production. Therefore, you cannot have a “shortfall” from something that wasn’t to begin with.

      Now, let’s the discuss the 13 month extension of Unemployment ripoffs of their fellow citizens by those too dependent on HANDOUTS from others to either find a job or create their own. THAT is a shortfall as it creates MORE SPENDING that the demoncraps refuse to pay for (Wasn’t it the demoncraps that passed some kind of “pay as you go” legislation then promptly forgot all about actually applying it? I‘m pretty sure that’s correct.)

      So come back on and fill us in with all the details of how you computed your fantasy shortfall.

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    • free2bme1961
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 7:02pm

      The Obama’s, Clinton’s, Bush’s, and satan’s plan, all work hand in hand!
      They appear to be against each other; when it suits them; and when it suits them, they stand side by side.
      Awe…ain’t it sweet?

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    • CultureWarriors
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 7:12pm

      When the going gets tough, the weak leave.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8DnA4Ro9tQ
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIoEUTqhYmA

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    • abc
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 7:15pm

      Okie,

      “Ding ding…Anything you need understanding on I can gladly help….” Good, because I need a lot to understand the conservatives’ thinking on this. I really do.

      You say stop spending, but no Republican can find $900B over 10 years to cut. Everyone can easily utter stop spending or cut the redundancies, but no one–not even Ryan or Cantor–can find the line items. I have carefully read the Pledge and all the statements made and it cannot be done. Even the recent blue-ribbon panels call for increases in effective tax rates to close the deficit. Reagan budget chief David Stockman has called the Republican party in denial and their ideas “fantasy” if they think you can solve the budget problem without tax hikes. So, please explain to me what specifically can be cut, since some pretty famous and smart people have failed to do so.

      You also mention that rich people did not exclusively cause the problem. That is true. Lots of people got overextended. But the trigger to this crisis did occur on Wall Street, amongst pretty well-paid bankers, so they are not the only cause, but the most proximate one. And, unlike the average American, they were bailed out and then helped to earn back massive profits and bonuses in the subsequent years.

      Finally, we have a progressive tax system and have had it for a long time. It is beyond question that we shift taxes based upon wallet size, and this has little to do with sex, color, age–factors for discrimination that are not only not widely accepted but are illegal. I think you should look at that again before making such a dim-witted comparison. A progressive tax is no more like discrimination than an age requirement is for becoming a Navy Seal.

      I’ll wait for your response so you can educate me on my massive ignorance…

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    • oldoldtimer
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 7:29pm

      Any one else notice any thing strange about this presser? There was no telepromter for Bill. No prepared speech. No I‘s and me’s. Obama was so embarassed that he had to leave. Moochie was calling and when she calls he runs. This fool is so unpresidentila it makes me ashamed and disgusted. Then we have the DFems amking stupid jackasses out of themselves. We will go after the remaing ones in 2012 along wit the Senate.

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    • abc
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 7:40pm

      Diamondback writes:

      “What $900B shortfall? Explain further please. And don‘t try the one about how much money the government and communist citizenry won’t be able to STEAL from their fellow citizens because of retaining the tax rates that have been in effect for approx. 10 years ALREADY. The first principle you DON‘T understand is that the fruits of other’s production belongs neither to you nor the government!!!! It BELONGS to the individual who invested their labor or other skills or resources into it’s production. Therefore, you cannot have a “shortfall” from something that wasn’t to begin with.”

      So you raised a lot of muddled points in there, but I think I have it. Essentially, you are saying: 1) because the tax rates have been in place for 10 years, they cannot be questioned; 2) an individual’s income is his and no one else has a right to it; and 3) taxation is theft. You also wanted me to explain the $900B shortfall.

      So here goes… First, it is not true logically that just because something is in place for 10 years means that it shouldn’t be reversed. How many years did we have slavery? How many years did we have segregation? There are tons of government policies that have been around for a long time and which are flawed and should be replaced. Without giving additional support, this would be a dopey way to argue for the current tax rates. But you do go on… The problem, however, with the contention that we all have a right to our property and earnings is, of course, that we also have an obligation to pay our bills. There are real services being provided by the government and they have real costs that need to be paid. Now, you may not like the amount of spending, but the GOP strategy of setting tax rates below the current level of spending without first cutting the spending is a very dishonest and irresponsible way of going about it. Some argue that this is the only way to starve the beast, but it also saddles our kids with debt and doesn’t exonerrate the GOP for failing to cut the spending while continuing to under-tax for that level of spending. It’s like you want to go to dinner, order $100 of food, wine and service, but only have $80 in your wallet and your grandkids’ credit card. Not good. And rights to your property have nothing to do with it, since you have relinquished your right to $100, much less the $80 in your wallet. This argument is especially forceful given the fact that Bush and his GOP controlled Congress had 6 years to cut spending and instead they raised the unfunded liabilities, which include current and future spending, by more than any other President, including Obama–those figures can be validated at the foundation website of Pete Peterson, Republican and former US Treasurer under Nixon. My argument, I think, also shows where the real theft is, assuming that we are now at the point of not being able to pay for that $100 meal even with the grandkids’ credit card.

      You also wanted an explanation of the $900B. First, the figure itself is uncontroversial. It is an estimate of what the added cost of the GOP plan versus the Democratic plan was for extension of the tax cuts, calculated over a projection period of 10 years, which is standard government accounting practice. It is a good assumption, since the timing of the next debate on this is the Presidential election and we know what the likelihood of another extension will be then.

      But most important is addressing what I believe to be your underlying assumption that you can only count increases in spending as being impactful on teh budget, but not decreases in taxation–since, you know, it’s my money. I think I‘ve already shown with the restaurant example that it ceases to be the taxpayers’ money if the taxpayers collectively are receiving real benefits from the government that they must pay for. But more immediate than this is the reality that the debtholders, whether they be Chinese or English or even American purchasers of US Treasuries, do not care whether they are not repaid because the US has overspent or undertaxed. They just want to be paid. From an economic/financial standpoint, the difference that the conservatives attempt to make between tax cuts (which they say don’t have to be offset to remain budget neutral) and spending increases (which they say do) is a false one that no debtholder will care about. Why does their opinion matter? Because they are the ones that can force the US into default, demand Ireland or Greece like austerity measures (that all call for tax hikes as well as spending cuts), rapid devaluation of the US dollar, huge jumps in inflation, and huge increases in interest rates. Thus, we should pay attention to what they say, not what conservative pundits who do not understand economics but know how to rile you up over your taxes to get what rich people–who will just bail to the BVI or Abu Dhabi when this whole thing blows up–want, which are irresponsible fiscal policies and tax rates.

      You continue: “Now, let’s the discuss the 13 month extension of Unemployment ripoffs of their fellow citizens by those too dependent on HANDOUTS from others to either find a job or create their own. THAT is a shortfall as it creates MORE SPENDING that the demoncraps refuse to pay for (Wasn’t it the demoncraps that passed some kind of “pay as you go” legislation then promptly forgot all about actually applying it? I‘m pretty sure that’s correct.)”

      I listen to enough conservative talk radio to have heard this meme a million times. The unemployed are lazy and their benefits pay them to stay that way. Setting aside the fact that the $300-something a month is not enough to live on in most places in this country, so these people are doing odd jobs to get by rather than sitting on their sofas, the reality is that the average unemployed American is competing against 5 people for that job and that is after getting an average hit rate on resume’s sent out of about 0.1%. These are figures that are readily available from consultants and temp firms, so I am not making this up. Unless you can produce real evidence that a very sizeable portion of Americans sit around and do nothing rather than look for work in the most challenging job market in 70 years, then you ought to retract your remarks. They are beyond off-base. They do not comport with reality, but merely the conservative narrative that the government spending is always bad. Luckily, something like 60% of Republicans and 75% of Americans support extension of unemployment benefits because, you know, they do not live in a fantasy world devoid of facts like conservatives who like Glenn Beck do.

      “So come back on and fill us in with all the details of how you computed your fantasy shortfall.”

      So I think that covers it. You can confirm the $900B at the US Treasury Department or NBER. And you can find the other facts I cite at Pete Peterson’s foundation website. The employment information is available at: http://www.epi.org/publications/entry/4.8_unemployed_workers_for_every_job_opening_in_july/

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    • CatB
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 7:44pm

      LOL … calls in “daddy” to calm the dems … I wouldn’t trust Clinton not to move back into the White House … Obama better be careful ..Clinton didn’t like having to leave the White House the first time .. he and Hillary tried to take as much “stuff” as they could .. including the furniture!

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    • NoDaDAZone
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 8:08pm

      Bill Clinton is a DADA http://www.marcrubin.com/dada2.ivnu — a destroyer of civilization

      Dada means Progressive. They are communists, socialists and anarchists. They build nothing. They destroy. They want to kill God and Liberty and Art. They want to rule the world. They are not fit to live on this earth God made”–(Salvador Dali as related to Marc Rubin in 1974)

      ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS CLINTON DID IN OFFICE WAS TO SIGN A BILL EXCLUDING THE ART OF LIVING ARTISTS FROM INVESTMENT PORTFOLIOS. All this while Rubin had the glorious 60“ x 76” Pointillist masterwork “Sunrise on the Shore” http://www.marcrubin.com/SUNRISE.ivnu on loan to the Clinton White House private quarters. — Clinton’s Arkansas benefactor (who shall remain nameless for now), who collected Rubin’s paintings, was so PISSED at Bill’s antics, he WROTE CLINTON OUT OF HIS WILL!
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    • tierrah
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 8:09pm

      @ABC: I‘m not overly bright so you’ll probably bash my ideas to cut spending. Let’s start with all the millions of OUR stimulus money that went overseas, hum? How about putting a freeze on at least 50% of the bureaucracies, like say, all the donations made to ART, to save the SEALS, to building TURTLE TUNNELS, to research the affects of alcohol on mice, etc., etc. How about this new 55B Stimulus to subsidize “special” interest groups? It’s disgusting what our government spends money on! Have you looked at the list of bureaucracies and agencies that are currently funded by our tax monies? It takes two 8.5×11 inch sheets of paper to print the list out using a size 9 font!!! That tells me government is WAY TOO BIG. Let’s cut some senator and congressmen salaries, okay? After all they are all millionaires … oh, they cry they only average $179,000 per year but look at their financial statements (the REAL ones). It truly baffles me how many people cannot step back and apply common sense and household budgeting when analyzing what the government is doing. Those folks in Washington actually think that money belongs to them!!!!!!!

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    • Anarcho Capitalist
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 8:10pm

      actually anarchy would be on the opposite end of the spectrum from communism or socialism. Anarchy is as far right as one can get.

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    • Okie from Muskogee
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 8:12pm

      @ABC

      I am glad to give you a hand on this..Really it’s as easy as abc..just saying..

      First, you say shortfall of 900 billion….Where is it you get 900 billion? The budget? Is the budget passed? Or is that the amount government won’t get unless they tax the top 2%? Just a guess? 900 billion over 10 years really is pocket change and not to mention just a number used, not a fact..We all know government projections are usually wrong and way off..Not to mention it’s 10 years, not next year..

      Where to cut over ten years? Unemployment extension, food stamps, Congressional pay, parts of military, aid to other countries, BLOATED government, etc.. There is plenty of waste to eliminate a 900 billion shortfall in 10 years….Plus if you have a shortfall as you claim you’ll be forced to cut a little of everything would you not? If they want to do it, it can be done..it’s just easier to come back like a kid and just take more..

      Sorry but you are wrong..The collapse was mortgage backed securities, due to Government forcing banks to loan to poor people whom could not afford it..Remember? So technically the poor people taking loans they knew they couldn’t afford caused the collapse, right? Are you suggesting we raise taxes on poor people for doing this? 

      Yes, our income tax system is discriminating..And yes, it was created by progressives..imagine that..They have a quirk about dividing people, not uniting..You say my argument makes no sense, using Navy seals as your point but your just distracting from truth….Kinda like saying woman not being allowed on subs isn’t discriminating, oh wait, it was and now they can..

      Please how is dividing people by age, color, or weight different from dividing people by how much money they have? I mean shouldn’t older folks pay more since they have lived longer so more responsibility? Or shouldn’t fat obese people pay more since they consume more? All those are wrong as you target a group and treat the different from the rest…FACT…Below is the definition of discrimination so you can see the truth…

      Again, glad to help..let me know if you need more enlightenment…

      dis·crim·i·na·tion [di-skrim-uh-ney-shuhn]
      –noun
      1. an act or instance of discriminating.
      2. treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit: racial and religious intolerance and discrimination.
      3. the power of making fine distinctions; discriminating judgment: She chose the colors with great discrimination.
      4. Archaic. something that serves to differentiate.

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    • Bluestraveler
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 8:22pm

      So true!!!!!

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    • BeckIsNuts
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 8:34pm

      nodadazone, Dali was gay. Not that there’s anything wrong with it.

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    • Cemoto78
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 9:01pm

      I’m so smart….Olbermann said so. Look at me I can’t make a decision and when I finally do everyone gets mad..Help Mr. Bill sluggo is out to get me.

      Who really voted for this loser? Daddy daddy help me

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    • Lucci
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 9:47pm

      What would have really made this event a worthy one would be to have Newt, the real man behind the success, at the podium.

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    • tradexpertbuysell
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 9:51pm

      Obama is a master at community organizing at manipulating ruling class Republicans. The only ones that actually don’t understand how the DC game is played are the average Marxist Social Democrats. Clinton is brought out of the closet because Obama’s forte is obviously nether leadership or selling.

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    • Noonien_Soong
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 9:51pm

      Obama’s presidential legacy just flew out the window for a party date with Moochele. I guess he has second fiddles in his mind

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    • Butter-Pants
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 9:52pm

      That is so funny……He must have felt like an Idiot walking off of that stage………..I think from now on Bill will be running the show, at least behind closed doors………………That is right Oidiot it is way over your head………..Go party with your wife & help her look after Black America………..I hope the Idiot reads this…………….OVOMIT IS AN IDIOT……….GO AWAY………..FAR AWAY!

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    • tradexpertbuysell
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 9:54pm

      ABC

      Do even your beer farts smell good?

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    • theconclusionist
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 10:15pm

      Add your comments

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    • Goldlady
      Posted on December 10, 2010 at 11:22pm

      Moochelle was waiting for him at the WH Christmas party! He left because he had to go to a party! This man is a pathetic example of a so called leader. He’s more like a child with no work ethic that only wants to go on vacations, attend parties and play golf.

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    • t4christ73
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 12:37am

      wife? no wonder he wants to legalize gay marriage, he and michelle both need tampons…

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    • OATMEAL
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 2:17am

      Was this a SNL Skit?? Tell me this was a joke….. I guess we now see who wears the pants in the WH……What do I do Bill??? I guess he needed a smoke……Let Bill finish out this term, he can do No Worse…………Hussein the MUSLIM……..You are in way over your head & you know it & so does everybody else! ………….Now Step Aside.

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    • Johnnyboy67
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 4:05am

      It was strange to see a prez actually let the press ask unfiltered questions for the first time in 2 years. Kudos to bubba for showing totUS how presidential press conferences were done till he got elected. 4 !!!!?!!!!

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    • poverty.sucks
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 4:23am

      Now go fetch me some coffee!

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    • Stuck_in_CA
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 7:46am

      Have you EVER seen a president act less presidential than this guy does?!?!?
      I’m embarrassed.
      DeMint/Bachmann 2012 (if we last that long)

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    • aafriend
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 8:21am

      Do you ever wonder why the Clinton’s being so powerful and have their own base are being moved around on a dime by O. something is not right, past presidents are to be respected and treated with some dignity. Ya Clinton is a Dem, though can you say i have allot of dirt on you, so you will be my puppet and do has i say. Just out of respect you would think 10 more minutes would have been something O could have tolerated. who runs that White house ? Michelle or O. Clinton looked week up there as O walked off with that big fabricated smile. its a shame.

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    • Tucsonan
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 8:43am

      Clinton has thicker skin than Obuma. I can’t believe he let Mr. Bill have his spot. What a lame excuse for a President. Obama needs to call out Pelosi and Reid for what they are. He is the friggin president for God’s sake! He need to put the pressure on the far left to pull back this country from going over the “brink”. All the spending didn’t do it, now lets try some REAL ideas. Make the tax cuts permanent!

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    • JKN
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 8:48am

      Since little boy, Barack Obama, couldn’t sell his own tax cut deal to his own party, he had to call in the big boys to take over…

      Bill Clinton did in five minutes what Barack Obama couldn’t do all week… He was articulate and able to calmly explain the basic deal in clear terms. He thanked the Republicans for coming to the table and warned that this deal could be much worse (for the Liberals) if they waited until the new year.

      The news was the tax cut deal; but as I read in one op-ed, the story was the fact that Clinton had far better communication skills and the ability to reach out to the “common man.”

      So much for Barack Obama’s “oratorical” skills… Can’t seem to talk his way out of a paper bag these days…

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    • JKN
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 10:04am

      @ABC… You sound a little condescending… Not exactly a conducive way to encourage debate. And the Tea Party movement is rising up against this $900 Billion “Stimulus” bill while Republicans are discussing ways to offset this new expense through governmental cut downs…

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    • TRUTHSEEKINGAL
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 12:26pm

      Obama makes history again.. For the first time ever, the country had a “substitute” Prez. It’s friday night & Obe had a date ,MIchelle was honking the horn, revving up engine, so he gave Slick a jingle “.Hey man, can you cover for me”?

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    • ltb
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 12:47pm

      Hey ABC, you moron, that $900 billion shortfall isn’t the fault of Conservatives. When you spend money you don’t have, expecting to mooch off of others to pay your debt, it’s not the person who won’t let you steal his money that’s responsible for your problem. Saying that these tax cuts add to the deficit is like someone buying a $50,000 car he can’t afford, asking his neighbor if he can borrow the money to make his payments and then saying “you’re causing my debt to increase by $50,000 because you won’t make my car payments” when that neighbor tells him to take a hike. Do you idiots on the Left ever even think about some of the crap you say? “Rich people tax cuts?“ Do you actually think that you’re somehow entitled to rich people’s money? Do you think that people who bust their butts working for a living owe you stuff you can’t afford? Listen you little beggar, if you want better health insurance or some of the things that rich people have, go work for it and stop telling Obama to steal it for you.

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    • CYCLONE
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 1:49pm

      awesome career move… but how are you gonna pay for the roto-tiller a$$ in 2 years ?????????

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    • LadyLiberty
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 2:43pm

      Bubba to Broke Obama: I got this son. You can head back to the kids table now.

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    • flamingliberal
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 4:36pm

      Obama is the MAN!!!

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    • kandeman
      Posted on December 11, 2010 at 6:31pm

      Dirty “O” should ask Hillary for the loan of her other two “NADS”

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    • davecoolworld
      Posted on December 12, 2010 at 1:52am

      Can anyone tell me if a sitting President has ever left a former President to finish a press conference?
      I don’t know if that was ever done before? The first lady was waiting….are you f’ing kidding me? You are The President of The United States of America!!!!! She will wait, she has a duty to wait.

      P.S…………… ABC is a douche-bag

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    • jakartaman
      Posted on December 12, 2010 at 9:27am

      Clinton made POTUS (barry) look like the house boy waiting for orders!

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    • Bluebonnet
      Posted on December 12, 2010 at 6:09pm

      Never expected much from this man, but he never fails to disappoint me with his uncouth actions. This was not the brightest thing he’s done, handing over the podium to an expert who doesn’t need a tele-prompter to tell him what to say. Quite a difference in style, huh? I’m always so embarrassed when Obama loses his place on the prompter and has to ask for it to move (as he has no idea what he’s saying, I guess). Well, DUH?

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    • C.C.D.
      Posted on December 12, 2010 at 9:14pm

      Forty four *

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    • Rightnow
      Posted on December 13, 2010 at 10:56pm

      He can’t be bothered with such trivialities.

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