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Obama Losing Jewish Support in Key Swing State — But Why Now?

Obama Losing Jewish Support in Key Swing State, But Why Now?Florida is home to one of the largest Jewish demographics in the United States. In fact, the Sunshine State falls behind only New York, California, and of course, Israel, when it comes to the world’s Jewish population centers.

What’s more, Jews overwhelmingly vote Democratic — and more so than any other demographic to date — even though liberalism seems, at first glance, incompatible with Jewish ideals and values.

To illustrate just how strong Jewish support for Democrats is, take into account that Obama, arguably the least Israel-friendly U.S. president to date, garnered a staggering 78 percent of the Jewish vote. Not even Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who many view as liberal, could capture the hearts and minds of most Jewish voters. But recent polling data in the key swing state could suggest trouble — at least a modicum of it — is on the horizon for Obama where his Jewish support is concerned.

According to the Boston Globe, Jewish political activists and demographers posit that the president could lose anywhere from 3 to low-double-digits percentage points in the upcoming election. While this number may not seem significant, the Jews constitute a roughly 4 percent of the state’s population yet typically account for between 5 and 6 percent of voters in Florida.

Obama has, since the beginning, opposed what he refers to as “settlements” in Judea and Samaria, he has had an arguably contentious relationship with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, has proven ineffective in showing that the U.S. will do all it can to thwart Iran’s nuclear ambitions and also announced to the world that Israel should return to its “1967 borders” (when no such borders in fact exist). So what could be the cause for this somewhat significant dip in Jewish support?
Israel Hayom political columnist Richard Baehr told TheBlaze that while there might not be room for excitement just yet, he is certain Republicans will do better among Jews this election, both “nationally and in Florida.” He reminded that Florida, because its Jewish population is older and comprises a higher percentage of women, will still do worse than a state like New York, for instance, that has a higher Orthodox and Russian-Jewish percentage. This is likely why Anthony Weiner’s seat turned GOP when he stepped down.
“There is clear concern on Obama’s side about diminished Jewish support,” Baehr said. “I think 30 percent is a reasonable target for our side in Florida and nationally.”

Indeed, “a small shift in the Jewish vote can make a difference,” Ira Sheskin, a University of Miami professor and director of its Jewish Demography Project told the Globe.

While the economy remains the primary concern of Jewish voters, according to surveys, and Obama will likely assail Romney over Medicare because he is weak on Israel, Rep. Paul Ryan might assuage Jewish voters’ concerns on both the economic and entitlement-front.

The Globe continues:

Any significant erosion of Obama’s support among the 639,000 Jews who live in Florida would have an outsize impact because their turnout could be near or more than 90 percent, Sheskin said. And any shift in Florida, as political analysts quickly point out, can be golden. In 2000, the state — and the presidency — were decided by a bitterly disputed margin of 537 votes that propelled George W. Bush to victory over Al Gore. [...]

But even if a shift is fairly small, the reliability of the Jewish vote seems less ironclad. For example, the co-founder of a pro-Obama super-PAC estimated that 15 percent of Jewish voters who backed Obama in 2008 are reconsidering their support.

“We have had to spend much more time than we did in ’08, talking to people whom I would call the base of the Democratic Party, to get them reengaged,” said Mik Moore, co-founder of the super PAC Jewish Council for Education and Research.

Moore added that Romney’s expenditures in Jewish-outreach seem to be working. “They have been so narrow in their pitch, so focused on issues such as Israel.”

And while Democratic stalwarts in the state, like Debbie Wasserman Schultz, are on the offensive, even Rabbis at traditionally liberal Jewish congregations admit that there is a shift in the atmosphere. The Globe continues:

“In my congregation, there’s still lots of support for Obama,” said Rabbi Barry Silver, who leads a reform synagogue in Lake Worth, Fla., just south of West Palm Beach. “However, since the last election, I have noticed Obama’s support slipping across all denominational lines.”

Part of that erosion is because of the economy, Silver said, but part is also because of Israel. In the rabbi’s view, that concern has been exploited and inflamed by Romney and the Republicans.

“Obama’s position on Israel has been misrepresented by conservatives who are trying to distort the truth,” said Silver, who organized a debate titled “Obama and Israel: Friend or Foe” that turned raucous at his synagogue in May.

Oddly, Silver condemns Republicans for being “intolerant of anyone that they perceived as not sufficiently pro-Israel.”

Despite the consensus that President Obama will surely lose up to several percentage points when it comes to the Jewish vote this election, one thing is certain: he will still garner the majority of their vote.

Comments (202)

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  • BillnGA
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 10:07pm

    He is slipping because he is a “closet” Muslim and it shows!!!!

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    • Skrewedretiree
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 10:56pm

      Closet my dying BUTT! It has been there on VIDEO for all to see and all to hear BEFORE HE WAS ANNOINTED!

      Don’t take my word for anything. Look it up! I did! It’s there for all to see, but you won’t see it on the Government Media (ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN,etc…)! Google it, if Google hasn’t totally gone to the Dark Side…..

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    • Man-On-A-Mission
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 10:55am

      This is why the GOP will loose. Idiotic statements like this. President Obama is a Christian. If not prove it. All you Lock Ness Monster, Sasquatch, Abominable Snow Man believer are whacked in the head. It’s the economy stupid!!!!!!

      And as long as you make it Birther, Welfare lies, Oh..he’s a Muslim….he stands for gays….he’s trying to weaken our defense…..your going to lose. OH….I forgot re-defining RAPE.

      I’m laughing at you GUYS……what a way to blow an elections.

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    • Harold B
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 5:06pm

      What makes it worse is the closet door is open.
      He also cant claim to be a Christian
      ‘

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    • MMSands
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 3:47am

      man-on-a-mission, while you’re on your mission, you might want to learn how to spell — before you spend much more time laughing at the ignorance off others.

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    • TheBurningTruth
      Posted on August 22, 2012 at 2:43pm

      To @Man-on-a-Mission: Nobody has to prove anything about Barry. According to Prince Harry, all one has to do is to cite a “creditable” and “unnamed” source and then the accused has to prove that they‘re NOT whatever they’re accused of.

      So, it‘s up to Barry to prove he’s not a muslim.

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  • crcitizen
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 10:03pm

    Which religion has Obumer not torn down,,,,,, which part of the world has Obumer not offended, and what is the religion in that part of the world, which region does Obumer prop up by not letting the US use it’s own resources. What is the religion of that region,

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    • Paul
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 10:53pm

      A liar of many colors, hats, religions, etc, etc.. This POS will make a mockery of anything and it phases him not in the least if he thinks he can pull one over on you. Jewish People, Wake Up, he is out to destroy You, Israel and The USA…

      Crystal clear at this point….

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    • MAX0O1
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 12:06am

      AND DOES IT not crack you up ,or more like make you want to HURL when you see
      this HIPOCRITE suddenly going to church. ELECTION ANYONE!!!

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    • pschlentz
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 12:12am

      It’s amazing to watch…the Jews vote in the very politicians that will use them, then destroy them…
      I’ve never understood why… It seems that they are their own worst enemy.

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    • destrecht
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 12:20am

      Secular humanism

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    • Miami
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 1:53am

      Someone read the prayer he left at the wall, It was addressed to Mohamed, start here and burn it all to the sea.

      Or they’ve woken from the media daze and actually taken him by his actions.

      Even though I don‘t doubt the prior I’d go with the latter

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    • mzk1
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 3:41am

      Well, first of all, even though religious Jews by custom give 10% – 20% of their net income to charity, it really is a communal obligation in Judaism. So this is one reason even religious Jews might vote Liberal. Another is that because the Jewish population as a whole almost completely lost its religion due to pressure to assimilate (a dirty word to any religious Jew) into the greater (culturally Christian) society. Most of those who remain belong to libreal religious denominations (, which, like their Christian counterparts, have replaced the Bible with the DNC platform.

      One other thing. Even Jews who vote Republican tend to be registered Democrats because they live in places where the Democratic primary decides the election.

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    • jcldwl
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 6:00am

      It’s about time the Jewish population wakes up. Now we just need the Catholics and the black community to wake up and it appears they are starting to. Why these particular groups of people continue to vote for whacked out liberals is beyond me. Wait I think I know. Jews vote whacko because they think of the right as Nazi’s…hmmmm…Nazi’s definition National Socialists…that’s left not right. Catholics…Must be the abundance of paganism present in their religion. Blacks…Just being kept on the plantation by current day slave owners (Democrat Party birthplace of the KKK). Glad to see they are all starting to wake up.

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    • loriann12
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 6:37am

      I don’t know about Jewish support but how it must have hurt for a Muslim to put on that yamaka.

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    • BSdetector
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 7:06am

      If they vote in Hitl.. Obama again, they will deserve whatever they get.

      I don’t know why Jews love Socialism so much, especially when you see what it brings them time and time again…

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    • Hollywood
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 8:54am

      Jewish people would do well to read the qur’an Sura 5:33 states: The ONLY reward for those who make war[oppose] allah, and his messenger,—-will be killed or crucified,or have their hands and feet ,on alternate sides,cut off—.
      Those in Israel, are in immenent danger from Egypt’s MB, and from IRAN,Turkey,etc.
      Those in the WEST, including the U.S., had better get their stupid heads out of the sand, as history is about to repeat. INEXCUSABLE, based on the mantra NEVER AGAIN re the Holocaust. Obama cares not one whit re Israel, and supports the MB in Egypt etc.

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  • cemerius
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:40pm

    Sadly, most Jews went to the gas chambers and concentration camps all too willingly!!! I have given some deep thought on why the Jews vote normally straight Democrat and I can ONLY surmise they are trying to destroy America………..and there ARE a huge amount that are Anti-Zionists as well and ANYTHING bad for Israel is good for them……I am a fallen Jew and have many friends that humor this gentile!

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:43pm

      Germans took their guns away. Jews had nothing to defend themselves with.

      Some jews fought back….http://www.ushmm.org/outreach/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007745

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    • therealconservative
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:59pm

      @soysauce

      And we stood by and did nothing. Kind of like you think we should do now.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:59am

      @THE…
      There is/was… only ONE DEGREE OF SEPARATION…. between FDR, Hitler, and Stalin… they where all Radical Socialists… Propagandists… and used Force to control the people. Yet, the people in each of the relative Nations… blindly followed them!

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    • mzk1
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 4:17am

      Exactly the opposite. My misguided brethren think they are puitting other’s interest before their own, and are thus voting for people they think will help the poor.

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    • rosegrower
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 11:30am

      Not really. If you know anything about history, you will know that the first communist revolutionaries began their evangelism in the synagogues of Russia and Belarus. They did what Rev. Wright and his ilk are doing in Christian churches today – conflating communist ideology with religion. The descendants of many of the Russian Jews that were “converted” by Leon Trotsky et al still hold fast to the belief that communism will bring about conditions on earth that will welcome the Messiah (commies will build a heaven on earth, in other words.) That’s why the “reform” Jews – who actually are more secular than they are religious – gladly follow the Democrat party line, while conservative and Orthodox Jews who still have religious values AND know history are running away from what they know to be a repeat performance of 1918 and 1936.

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  • RossPoldark
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:30pm

    Oh look, a Muslims using Taquiyya law from the Quran to deceive Jewish people into believing he is for them. It boggles the mind, how some Jewish people, or anyone for that matter, could be stupid enough to vote for this demonic muslim, but there you are.

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    • encinom
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 10:14pm

      oh look another bigot on the Blaze lying about the President.

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    • SILAS
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:46pm

      Encinom, every single time you make one of your idiotic comments here, I make a $100 donation to a Conservative org or Super PAC…..

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    • SILAS
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:49pm

      another $100 on behalf of “encinom” to http://www.opsecteam.org/index.html Thanks for your support

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    • LIBERTARIAN T38
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:58pm

      Um, the Jews I know (hispanics too), including my sister and her husband have gone from being apolitical or liberal to actively supporting Romney. She tells me Obama has lost much of the Jewish vote in NYC. Like I said 4 years ago, Obama had to happen for America to wake up, just like Carter. I still remember the economic hell my parents went through because of Carter and the socialist Democrats and have a hard time forgiving him or them.

      I guarantee you, Obama can‘t understand why more people don’t want his handouts in lieu of jobs…just like socialist Europe. I see a confused man who really believes in the European mass slavery to government.

      The only religion Obama hasn’t bitch slapped is Islam. But, I‘ve long said liberals and Islamofascists are banding together because they can’t get along with the rest of the world.

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 12:24am

      BOO-HOO ENCINOMUSH
      Someone said a bad thing about your hero. Just admit it; you (and others like you) are secretly in LOVE with Barack Insane Obama, and can’t stand it when someone criticizes your lover.

      SILAS-Good link and a great cause to donate to, thanks!

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  • frogg
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:29pm

    If a Christain can see that Obama hates Jews, it shouldn’t be too difficult for Jews to see it also?
    DuH!!!!!!!!!!! How many time does Hitler have to strike before you wake up?

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    • 762x51
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:38pm

      Maybe they think that if they support him, this time things will be different. Good luck with that.

      Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 8:32am

      The problem is most American Jews have traded in their faith in Judaism for faith in Liberalism.

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  • 762x51
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:27pm

    Obama is clearly on the side of Islamic terror against Israel and America, he is the mortal, blood enemy of Israel and the United States. This election, Jewish Americans will have to choose whether they want to be Jewish or liberal. Obama will see to it Israel falls to the Islamo-fascists in his second term. A vote for Obama is a vote to destroy Israel.

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    • Bowlz
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:43pm

      Agree. It boggled me for a long time until I found these vs in the Bible years ago. Rom 11: 8 – 10.

      I’m all for Israel and am confident that they will be there when it counts: It counts right NOW!

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  • watersRpeople
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:19pm

    The Lord is unto a landowner who leases the land to husbands to work the land after showing the husbands how to work the land. But then the Lord goes away, and those husbands make believe the land owner was more magical than he really was to get all the workers to strive much much harder. All the while the husbands know the truth, and yet the thing is that when the Lord was taken by the Lord he went far away to learn the ways of the universe – and acquired all those magical powers the husbands told the workers about. So who’s gonna be the one whose souls surely die when he comes back?

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  • scudster
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:19pm

    When it comes to a photo op the ole Bummer is a lot like Billy boy.

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  • PeachyinGA
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:17pm

    Next time he stuffs his prayer in the Western Wall, it should not begin “Dear Allah….”

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    • 762x51
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:29pm

      Hell I‘m surprised it didn’t burst into flames when he stuffed it in the wall. It was probably his Christmas list.

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    • PeachyinGA
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 10:14pm

      Nope, we can rule that one out … lots of Christians tucking prayers into wall …. no flames witnessed.

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    • Dave In Arizona
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 12:34am

      It was Michelle’s Christmas ham recipe.

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  • Magyar
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:06pm

    I still have a difficult time understanding how intellegent Jews who are smart business men and have clearly benefitted from capitalism, would ever consider voting for Obummer, who wants to destroy the very form of government that has made so many wealthy!….foolish blind allegiance? …like blindly walking to their deaths in the 1940s without a fight?

    Wake up!

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  • watersRpeople
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:06pm

    The purpose of Jesus having come was to lay a Foundation whereby people with a heart of stone could come up to the Lord step by step with their nakedness getting discovered each step of the way. Because when he comes here on his throne those who haven’t came step by step will be shattered souls.

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  • marybethelizabeth
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:05pm

    Israel is a socialist country. Most Jewish are left leaning.

    President Obama is governing from the center-right

    This is why he is losing Jewish voters.

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    • Magyar
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:11pm

      ‘…Obama governing from the center-right’— What the he(( planet are you from?

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    • amerbur
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:14pm

      Obama, center right? Why do the Jews vote for their persecurters?

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    • tzion
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:21pm

      Israel was founded by socialists and has been moving to the right ever since it realized that socialism was unsustainable. Outside of a few socialist remnants in education and healthcare, the country functions in a capitalist setting. As for most Israelis being socialists, if that were true the Labor party would still control the government. Bibi is in no way a leftist.

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    • justangry
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:22pm

      Yeah, I’m going to have to throw the BS flag on that one. I know I’m fair right, but wow… Obama is way to the left. Mind spelling it out?

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    • resme
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:04pm

      @justangry, I would have to say obamarama leans towards Fascism more than socialism, Wouldn’t you Agree?

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    • justangry
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:16pm

      That’s tricky… Yeah, with the authoritarian nature, the EO’s, racism, etc., but there’s that whole social justice stuff, and globalism vs. nationalism, redistribution of wealth… so it’s kind of fuzzy to me. I know I don’t like it one bit.

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    • justangry
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:32pm

      @Resme, BTW, There’s an update for that Marine that was kidnapped by the feds being indefinitely detained. He still hasn’t been charged with anything. All this for linking conspiracy theories and song lyrics to his personal FB account. We have supression of free speach, illegal searches, and denial of due process to a freaking VETERAN people!! You all know who supports this crap too.

      http://virginiacopblock.org/232/rutherford-institute-defends-marine-arrested-statement-on-hearing/

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    • resme
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 12:09am

      @justangry, I just can’t believe this happened in Virginia. We passed legislation to nullify the NDAA.

      On a side note, Glenn was talking about russia and free speech, How if you just speak about the russian government you disappear. ( About the band “***** Riot” getting two years in prison ) Does this sound familiar/ironic?

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    • Yaeli
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 4:52am

      Hello, newsflash, Israel hasn’t been remotely socialist in more than 30 years and the Left in Israel has shrunk to a tiny minority since 2005 (yeah, that disengagement from Gaza really didn’t work out for us). Poll out just this week shows that Israelis hope for a Romney win by a 2:1 margin. Someone really needs to make an ad about that to show in Florida and New York.

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    • BillnGA
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 6:28am

      Your nuts!!!

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  • soybomb315_II
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:04pm

    i will never fully understand how America and its allies got the nerve to establish Israel after the bible so clearly foretold of its destruction by the Romans. Isnt it a bit of blasphemy to think that we could restore Israel ‘on God’s behalf’?

    Yea, no group of people should ever become voting blocks – or else they will be used as pawns for the political machine (blacks, jews, social conservatives)

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    • therealconservative
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:11pm

      You forgot one ‘Mindless Ron Paul FOLLOWERS’

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    • Freedombeliever
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:12pm

      And I will never fully understand why our dearly beloved(Not!) #1 troll Soybomb continues to spend all his hours posting on a website that doesn’t give a flying you-know-what about what he has to say! We just enjoy shooting him down. Soybomb, isn’t there are more fertile playground than The Blaze for you? We will never take you seriously. You;re a sad, sorry joke. It’s kinda pathetic. Just sayin’ ….

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    • RedheadedStepchild
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:12pm

      America did NOT create the state of Isreal- learn your history. We agree as many other nations did. To the anger of Saudi Arabia which we already had massive ties with…because we supplied the infrustructure needed to take that oil out of the ground. So we actually reluctantly voted in the UN to support its creation. Do we supply then arms…yes, but we supply arms to many nations. Read a book.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:17pm

      Ron Paul is not on the ballot

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:22pm

      and the hate filled posters are off to a great start tonight!!

      @RedheadedStepchild
      i said “America and its allies”

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:24pm

      SOY is just throwing out the normal Ron Paul indoctrinated anti-Israel/anti-Semite nonsense to see where it sticks. He didn’t get much of a nibble with his first comment, so he had to dig a litle deeper… eh SOY?

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    • therealconservative
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:26pm

      @soysauce

      “Ron Paul is not on the ballot”

      We know that, but you and your fellow drones don’t.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:42pm

      Still waiting to hear about the biblical justification…. (see original post)

      Time2, going to sit this one out?

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 10:02pm

      SOY. Actually I’m going to sit back and watch you dig yourself into a hole.

      BUT, while I’m reading you agitate… I‘m also reading Eric Dondero over and over again where he talks about Ron Paul’s hate for Israel and how Paul stated he wouldn’t save the Jews from the Holocaust if he was presented with the opportunity as President and leader of the free world… little things like that. Lol.

      I think he’s a pretty convincing read … don’t you BOMBER??

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 10:06pm

      @time2
      I have no idea what you are talking about but it is funny that you are still obsessed with Ron Paul after all these months….

      Did you know today is his birthday? 77 years old. At 77, he is perhaps the most influential 77 year old in American history???

      Still hoping someone can explain/articulate the answer to the biblical question…

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 10:55pm

      Of course you don‘t know what I’m talking about SOY… wink, wink…

      Anyways… as long as Ron Paul supporters “occupy” The Blaze insulting and agitating Republicans/Conservatives//America/Israel/Jews etc… I guess you don‘t mind if I provide a little blowback and invoke Ron Paul’s name as the master of your rhetoric for awhile longer do you??

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 10:59pm

      Still hoping someone can explain/articulate the answer to the biblical question…

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    • amtsoundsmith
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:05pm

      God works through people….does that work for you?

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:19pm

      @amtsoundsmith
      That sounds like a blanket statement that could cover anything and EVERYTHING. I was looking for something more concrete but i appreciate your response

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    • PASSIONFORCHRIST
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:24pm

      Your answer @ soybomb315_II:
      First of all nobody on earth regathered the Jews, GOD did, and He is also the One who scattered them. You obviously don’ know what prophecy is, maybe you can borrow someones bible and study prophecy. You might see things a lot clearer.

      “EVERY KNEE WILL BOW AND EVERY TONGUE WILL CONFESS, THAT JESUS CHRIST IS KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS”.

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  • watersRpeople
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 8:59pm

    When Jesus was here previously it was the Lord showing his tenderness, his kindness – his sacrifice. If someone with a heart of stone couldn’t understand it then – then their hearts came to be even more hard. If someone can’t understand the kindness – the tenderness – then surely they won’t understand him coming like a Lion, and their soul will surely die.

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    • watersRpeople
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:25pm

      Likewise if a dad doesn’t hold his newborn child to his bosom immediately having come out of the womb, then a child has a much more difficult time understanding the wrath later in life coming from the dad originates out of love.

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  • DisposableWorker
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 8:51pm

    …. for being “intolerant of anyone that they perceived as not sufficiently pro-Israel.”..
    How about not being sufficiently Pro-American you Schmuck!

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  • BIGWUN
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 8:43pm

    Actually, you are in error here, Blaze. Obama wants the state of Israel to return not to the 1969 borders but rather to the 69 AD borders with one key difference. The Muslim Brotherhood can take over eradication of Jews from the Roman Empire. Jews, a vote for O is a vote to be eradicated.

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  • dwilco77
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 8:43pm

    Duuuhhh, what do you know. Sooner or later, people will wake up to the truth. You can only live on deceptions, and lies for so long. The American people, for the most part, are not of the European brand of expecting everything to be handed to us. The negative, anti-semetic comments that are bound to show up on this story will be from that section of America that wants a nanny state ie. the part that will fall for the division of our society by ethnic, economic, or religious traits. Fortunately for the rest of us, they are a small minority.

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  • watersRpeople
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 8:42pm

    Well I doubt it has much to do with his handling of Israel I’ll tell you that.

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  • OklahomaMike
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 8:42pm

    The article states: “…Jews overwhelmingly vote Democratic — and more so than any other demographic to date.”

    That’s simply not true. Blacks typically vote 90% Democratic, and in the cas of Obama, higher still.

    Come on, The Blaze, accuracy matters.

    On the larger issue: I agree that the Jewish vote for Democrats is significantly misguided. The same is true for the Black vote. Forty years ago there may have been a good argument…but now? With blacks being destroyed by a culture of dependency, and the Democratic party infested by anti-Semites and anti-Israel sentiment…it doesn’t stand to reason.

    Of course, though, very little of what people do is based on reason. People have certain cultural loyalties, and social pressure makes it very difficult to rethink certain “obvious truths.”

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  • Canada_Goose
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 8:41pm

    “What’s more, Jews overwhelmingly vote Democratic — and more so than any other demographic to date — even though liberalism seems, at first glance, incompatible with Jewish ideals and values.”
    ______________

    Ms Gabbay appears to completely out of touch with or ignorant of her own people’s tradition, history, ideals and values.

    Were (are) individuals like Freud, Einstein, Spinoza, Wiesel, Bellow, or Rabin incompatible with Jewish ideals or values?

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    • RedheadedStepchild
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:22pm

      “”"“What’s more, Jews overwhelmingly vote Democratic — and more so than any other demographic to date — even though liberalism seems, at first glance, incompatible with Jewish ideals and values.”
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      Ms Gabbay appears to completely out of touch with or ignorant of her own people’s tradition, history, ideals and values.

      Were (are) individuals like Freud, Einstein, Spinoza, Wiesel, Bellow, or Rabin incompatible with Jewish ideals or values?”"”

      What are the hell do these Jews have to do with what is going on now? Comparing liking someone and voting for him even though his distaste for your right to exist in your own home land is clearly seen and being a brillant scientist have nothing in common… Please explain your arguement.

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    • tzion
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:47pm

      Well considering that all those individuals were more secular than Judaic, I’d say the answer to your question might be yes.

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    • Yaeli
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 5:23am

      There is a very good historical explanation why Jews (secular, not religious) lean heavily to the left in addition to the concept of Tikkun Olam. Starting in the late-20s and early 30s it was the extremely idealistic young members of socialist-zionist youth groups (all nice middle class kids, mind you — they couldn‘t get the ’proletariat’ Jewish youth interested) who foresaw the vital need to get out of Europe when few others did. They envisioned building a utopia in Israel and they were the only ones who created a real pipe-line for getting people out. They established kibbutzim in Israel and training kibbutzim in Poland, Hungary etc to ready members to leave for the promised land. They got a lot of people out. During the war, it was the socialist-zionist youth movements (specifically the youth movement I grew up in Habonim-Dror, along with Hashomer Hatzair) that managed to organize and carry out resistance — e.g., the Warsaw Ghetto uprising. The youth group members fought back against the Nazis. After the war, it was Habonim-Dror that organized the Aliya Bet — the getting of Jewish survivors of the camps out of Europe and to Israel, defying British guns to do so.

      Most of these surviving members became not so socialist and certainly less idealistic as they grew older. But, thank G-d for the idealism of youth…

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    • Canada_Goose
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 9:17am

      Israel‘s Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Defense Ehud Barak said the Obama White House has been the most supportive administration throughout the two countries’ diplomatic relations on matters of Israeli security, in an interview to air Monday on “The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer.”

      Barak -also a former prime minister of Israel – said that though historically administrations from both political parties have supported the Jewish state President Obama’s support, security-wise, is unparalleled.

      “I think that from my point of view as defense minister they are extremely good, extremely deep and profound. I can see long years, um, administrations of both sides of political aisle deeply supporting the state of Israeli and I believe that reflects a profound feeling among the American people,” said Barak. “But I should tell you honestly that this administration under President Obama is doing in regard to our security more than anything that I can remember in the past.”

      http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/30/ehud-barak-sings-praises-of-obama-administration/

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  • LeadNotFollow
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 8:39pm

    …
    It’s time for Jewish-Americans to wake up and stop voting for Democrats.
    Democrats are their worst enemy.

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    • Freedombeliever
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 8:55pm

      I couldn’t agree more. I have always scratched my head over why Jewish vote democrap. It makes no sense. It is the conservative movement that backs Isreal in international affairs, while liberals are more likely to lean towards communism – the enemy of the Jewish people.
      Maybe, just maybe, our prayers are working.

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    • CatB
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 10:21pm

      Amen to that . .. perhaps there is hope for the east coast of Florida .. the southwest coast is much more Conservative … that’s why I live on the west coast ;-)

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  • BlesstheJews
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 8:38pm

    The Jews are starting to wake up! Maybe Obama opened their eyes of what the Messiah DOES NOT look like and more will come to Jesus!

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    • watersRpeople
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 8:47pm

      The unfortunate thing about having crucified the actual Messiah is that a person’s heart becomes more solid than iron to the possibility that the Messiah already came and went. It kind of makes them having passed judgement on themselves.

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  • soybomb315_II
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 8:32pm

    If you want the Jews to be protected and Israel flourish, ask God and not the US government

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    • therealconservative
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:15pm

      Sounds that the progressives in ‘30’s.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:21pm

      you dont even know what progressivism is

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    • justangry
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:31pm

      LOL, Soy. I‘ve tried to expand on GB’s definition, but they aren’t buying it. Progressivism equals Fabian Socialists to Blazers. That’s it. Of course the moderators don‘t like it when I spell it out so they’re still social conservatives in their minds. I’ve even linked quotes about the Temperance folks, drug laws, and expansion of federal police force established during the progressive era, and Wendell Holme’s/Bandies dissents that they use to justify the expansion of federal government, but they’re not going to listen to anyone but Fox and GB. Not to mention our foreign policy being discussed in a Wilsonian think tank that the folks that own the media are members of. They like their wars though.

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    • therealconservative
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:32pm

      So school me, I’m game to get a definition from a practitioner.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:37pm

      It‘s crazy cuz all they have to do is listen to Glenn Beck’s radio show every once and awhile….This is the home of Glenn Beck, right?

      Just – i got a video you might be interested in. To the uninformed, it helps explain where you and I are coming from
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mgMHB5UBeE&feature=youtu.be

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:40pm

      @thereal
      I dont think you are a Glenn Beck listener…but in case you are, perhaps this will provide you some knowledge.

      http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/23936/

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:49pm

      It’s funny when I read the Ron Paul insurgency here talk about Progressives this and Progressives that, when Ron Paul and Ralph Nader were getting cozy and forming a Libertarian-Progressive coalition.

      Even worse than that was Paul’s affection for Socialist Bernie Sanders. But that’s okay… it’s all about “end the fed” right?

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 10:00pm

      @Time2
      Yes, when you find someone who agrees with you on a particular issue – it is worth forming alliances for the issue in question.

      I know you think everything in terms of military – how about communist Russia in WWII. Everyone knew Stalin was a monster. But yet we joined forces to beat Hitler…..Same principle

      You should read the article i posted to “therealconservative”….It would do you some good as well

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 10:21pm

      SOY. That dog won’t hunt. Ron Paul has a history of pandering to the worst that roams America (not to mention our enemies)… anyone who will listen and agree with his mostly idiotic musings to further HIS and whatever THEIR agendas may be in the end.

      I don‘t think I’d quite like Louis Farrakhan heaping a whole lot of praise on me like he did with your boy Paul, plus the likes of David Duke (among various other racists, bigots and anti-Semites).

      Paul would ally himself with Satan if the devilish old boy yelped END THE FED!! Paul has basically sold his soul to the devil on countless occasions to further his BS ideological agenda and my Military mind tells me I would like to see him face a firing squad for his treasonous actions, anti-American rhetoric, along with aid and comfort to our enemies if you want to know the truth…

      Paul pandered to, and accepted

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    • therealconservative
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 10:23pm

      @soysauce

      “I dont think you are a Glenn Beck listener”

      Currently listening to GBTV (9.95 /month you know). Already read your link. Now how about your insider knowledge, not a GB article.

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    • TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 10:26pm

      Sorry, hit the “reply” key by mistake before finishing. I was going to point out a few more things about Paul’s pandering and where he got his $$ for Congressional bids over the years… but screw it… the average Paul acolyte doesn‘t care about Paul’s lack of character and disturbingly low system of values and morals…

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 10:58pm

      @thereal
      So did you understand the article? You now know what a progressive is. Did you see the following…

      “The present crisis did not appear out of nowhere, and didn’t simply begin with the election of Barack Obama. Politicians of both parties spent the better part of the 20th century disregarding the Constitution, as they looked to have government step up to solve every conceivable human problem.”

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    • justangry
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 11:12pm

      @Real, I’d love to discuss it, but censorship is bad on the subject. During the progressive era, the progressives GB describes had help from what we call social conservatives today. They had different goals of course, but ended up using some key dissents to change the standard view of constitutionalism that allowed them to bypass the amendment process to expand the federal government beyond the enumerated powers outlined in the Constitution. This school of thought has taken us away from natural law, or the idea that our rights come from a higher authority than man. I’d encourage you to verify what I’m saying by looking into the Progressive Era, dissents by Wendell Holmes Jr. and the theory of Constitutionalism that came about during that period. A good place to start is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Living_Constitution. I’m not telling you to use this as a reference, just get the idea of the key players, generally what they believe, etc.

      @Soy, I caught that interview on FB this morning. The Judge is awesome. I’m looking forward to that book he’s writing. It sounds like he’s going to attempt to explain what I’m getting at.

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    • resme
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 12:14am

      @just and soy, Another GREAT video of the judge. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=axA-bFCDU3M

      When that female correspondent laughed at the judge @ 2:41, Just blew my mind. To no surprise eric saying so-what to civil liberties.

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    • justangry
      Posted on August 21, 2012 at 2:47am

      @Resme, Pfft! Yeah Eric Rowland is a giant douche. And such a hypocrit. He’s as whacky as the religous zealots in the ME.

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  • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 8:30pm

    Maybe because……..hmmm, he embraces the muslim brotherhood, he wants Isreal back to the 69 borders, he wants to recognize the palistinian state. This sounds like, hmmm, i don’t know, more from someone who wants Jews dead like………..SATAN!

    My Church Lady Impersonation for today.

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    • Max jones
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 9:33pm

      This reality that we see and hear and tread through each day, is over due for a rewind. Satan is here and dreads the fact that Christians and Jews are out of his reach in this age. The “rewind” is inevitable. The goats are separated from the sheep. First is last and last is first. The exalted humbled and the meek raised up. We thank God for this day and the His grace. I don’t believe anything else is very important.

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  • stm62
    Posted on August 20, 2012 at 8:21pm

    American Jews should ask Netanyahu what he thinks about Obama. Perplexing.

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    • Socco
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 8:33pm

      Why? He’s not a Jew. He doesn’t even believe in God.

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    • justangry
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 8:46pm

      I’m not sure Netanyahu has total support among the Jews in Israel. Remember they tried that Unity party thing that lasted maybe a month before it fell appart. Netanyahu is a hawk, and I‘m not sure Israeli’s are buying into the warmongering propaganda either. Last poll I’ve seen it was split fairly evenly. I‘m also not sure the Neocons and their CFR owned media here would let us know about anti war sentiment in Israel because they’re always looking for an excuse to murder and have our boys get killed for BS.

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    • Bete Noire
      Posted on August 20, 2012 at 8:47pm

      Having lived in Florida for years I can tell you this. The Jewish voter in Florida prioritizes this way; Who’ll send me the biggest Social Security check, who’ll increase my Medicare/MedicAid allowances and then only after those two, who will defend Israel if it becomes necessary.

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