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Obama Officially Ends Ban on Gays Serving in the Military

Obama Officially Ends Ban on Gays Serving in the MilitaryWASHINGTON (The Blaze/AP) — President Barack Obama on Friday formally signed off on ending the ban on gays serving openly in the military, doing away with a policy that’s been controversial from the day it was enacted and making good on his 2008 campaign promise to the gay community.

The president joined Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Adm. Mike Mullen, the joint chiefs of staff chairman, in signing a notice and sending it to Congress certifying that military readiness would not be hurt by repealing the 17-year-old “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy.

That means that 60 days from now the ban will be lifted.

“As commander in chief, I have always been confident that our dedicated men and women in uniform would transition to a new policy in an orderly manner that preserves unit cohesion, recruitment, retention and military effectiveness,” Obama said in a statement.

“Today’s action follows extensive training of our military personnel and certification by Secretary Panetta and Admiral Mullen that our military is ready for repeal. As of September 20th, service members will no longer be forced to hide who they are in order to serve our country.”

Friday’s move was expected under the repeal law Congress passed in December. Before “don’t ask, don’t tell,” the military did not allow gays to serve. But in 1993 Clinton said gays would be discharged only if their sexual orientation became known.

Repeal has drawn strong opposition from some in Congress, and there was initial reluctance from military leaders who worried it could cause a backlash and erode troop cohesion on the battlefield.

But two weeks ago, the chiefs of the military services told Panetta that ending the ban would not affect military readiness.

Advocacy groups that fought for the change called the decision Friday long-overdue, while opponents said it’s a political payoff to left-leaning gay and lesbian activists.

“The president’s certification of repeal is a monumental step, not just for those forced to lie in order to serve, but for all Americans who believe in fairness and equality,” said Human Rights Campaign President Joe Solmonese.

Elaine Donnelly, who heads the Center for Military Readiness, which has lobbied against repeal, said it will “undermine morale and readiness in the all-volunteer force.”

The Pentagon is expected to spend the next 60 days preparing the troops for the change, and ironing out legal and technical details, including how it will affect housing, military transfers and other health and social benefits.

In most cases, the guidelines require that gays and lesbians be treated like any other member of the military.There will be differences, however. Same sex partners will not get the same housing and other benefits as married couples. Instead, they are more likely to be treated like unmarried couples.

Once the repeal is final, service members can no longer be discharged for openly acknowledging they are gay. That’s the key change. And those who have been discharged previously based solely on the gay ban may apply to re-enter the force.

Service members may also designate their same-sex partners as beneficiaries for insurance and other benefits – something they may have avoided earlier for fear it would cause their dismissal.

One of the thornier issues is gay marriage.

An initial move by the Navy earlier this year to train chaplains about same-sex civil unions in states where they are legal was shelved after more than five dozen Congress members objected.

The training, lawmakers told Navy Secretary Ray Mabus, violated the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act by appearing to recognize and support same-sex marriages.

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  • lylejk
    Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:31pm

    I see the return of the draft in the near future. I will tell you this. I was in the Reserves and served my country well during the first Gulf War 20 years ago. I only suspected that homosexuals (only years later found out) were in our unit and they did their job, but, I do not want to know it and have it spieled in my face that these folk were gay. Keep your sexual desires in your pants and do your job I say. Making it so that they can outwordly show their affections for same sex soldiers is not going to fly. Fraternization accusations are going to be a hassle for the JAG too and, instead of fighting to protect the homeland, folk will be fighting in the courts. Sad, sad, sad. :)

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    • iamHeidi
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:35pm

      Thank you for your service. I am not at all in compliance with this repeal.

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:37pm

      exactly…I’m not sure what this is accomplishing…gays can now openly flirt with eachother in the military?…I’m thinking thats not gonna fly with most military personnel…just a guess though!

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    • Dustyluv
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:56pm

      I have no problem with gay people. I do have a problem with a heavy lisp, outward tells and PDAs. I dont do that and neither should they.

      I will bet within a year we see a gay soldier dead because of open hhomosexuality. And I will bet that if he is captured by AlQueda he will revert back to dont ask dont tell real quickly….

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    • conservative510
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 6:50pm

      DO ask, DO tell.

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    • Socialism_Is_The_New_Black
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 7:57pm

      Exactly! This is a slippery slope. I saw opportunists of opposite sexes have others reprimanded for sexual harassment when I was in the service. Theoretically it will be very easy for some self proclaimed homosexual to commit sexual harassment of the same sex by military standards. If I were openly gay and in the military I’d want private showers as to not be accused of any improprieties. Before you had the expectation of heterosexuals in the communal showers. This turns it on it’s head. How can letting an openly homosexual woman shower in the shower room with a heterosexual woman differ than letting a heterosexual man in there with the heterosexual woman? I‘m a male and a homosexual male can see me naked in the shower why can’t I go into the females shower to see ladies?

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    • Socialism_Is_The_New_Black
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 8:07pm

      FYI: Really don‘t care about who is or isn’t gay, I just want to point out there are many dangers into trying to make this puzzle piece fit in the military and the dangers involved for the party who thought they finally won the battle.

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    • Tyr
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 9:16pm

      I understand that this may blow up in the faces of the gay activists. You see, before the ban was lifted the military couldn‘t ask and service member couldn’t tell. Now, at least in the Marine Corps, they WILL be asked and be required to tell. You see there are many, many points in the U.S. Marine recruitment and training process were you can be kicked out. A simple “not suited for military life”, or “unable to adapt to military service” or the D.I. just decides he doesn’t want you in HIS Corps will get you put out. Oh, but of course the gay recruit could always get a lawyer and sue the Marine Corps, but being on “legal hold” in the Corps is a fate worse than prison. You see once you sign that contract, it is up to the Corps whether you get out or not! Eighteen hours a day of the worst, nastiest, dirtiest, hottest (or coldest), physical labor you can think of until your “legal problems” are solved. And it ain’t like it is in the real world girls, you don’t go anywhere or do anything unless it is authorized by higher authority! You would likely be confined to base when you are not working and there isn’t a thing you or any lawyer can do about it!!!! Semper Coitus! hahahahahahahahaha

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    • jzs
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 9:29pm

      Forget it. It’s done. Get over it. The Israeli military has allowed gays to serve openly for years (or decades, not sure). Nobody cares, it’s not an issue, and no one can accuse the Israel’s of having a weak or compromised military. The Israeli’s have a seriously bad a– military force and they don‘t give a dang if you’re gay, as long as you’re serious a bad a– too.

      We’ve been through this with blacks and women. People earn respect based on their performance and once they do, they get the respect they deserve. The world’s changing, get over it. The only thing that matters is how a soldier performs. If someone, anyone is worried about having a gay person around, they aren’t too secure about their own sexual preferences. Seriously, why does anybody give a dang if some person is gay?

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    • Libertyluvnmomma
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 9:35pm

      The NWO wants to kill massive amounts of people. Thru war, famine and “medicine”.
      Gays will get their fair share now.
      Welcome aboard!

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    • Tyr
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 10:01pm

      jzs
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 9:29pm
      Really? I have served along side the Israeli Military and except for a small group of highly trained elite commandos and special forces (all men, maybe hetro, maybe ****) the majority of their military reminds you of a bunch of petulant collage kids that are just doing their time in the service so they can go back to college. No disipline, a severe lack of motivation and they must be supervised to insure they correctly perform the smallest assigned task. What was your first hand experience like?

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    • Baron_Doom
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 10:40pm

      And during Norway’s 9/11, Obama is doing what? Announcing that homosexuals can now serve in our military openly. Apparently his policies are more important than the human suffering going on in the world.

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    • Baron_Doom
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 10:46pm

      JZS, in case you weren’t aware of this, each and every citizen of Israel who is physically able to, both men and women, are conscripted into the military for a term before attending college. It’s that way in a lot of European countries as well, although most don’t allow women.

      The United States didn’t become great by copying the rest of the world. The United States became great by doing the exact opposite of the rest of the world. We don’t give a damn what the rest of the world does or how it does it. We have our own way of doing things, thank you very much.

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    • nptden
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:07pm

      I was wondering how Obama would weaken our military. This is a major way to cause problems at a root level. Just like the MANDATORY Diversity and Sensitivity training. These are structured to empower a minority and intimidate a majority. It’s all a scam. Values and Merit are out the window. Another tool is the EEOC which is a quota system to employ based on color. Commies are clever in using the system.
      Why do you think Karl Marx had the American flag as the center-piece for the first communist convention.
      He loved America because he knew if you controlled the rules you controlled the people.

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    • jzs
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 11:15pm

      TYR, I haven’t served aside the Israeli military. You say that except for the elite groups (some of whom may be gay) that the Isreali army is not that great. You say they act like a bunch of petulant college kide (I take it you didn’t go to college). Okay, you have been around them, I have not. I believe the reputation is that they are fierce and deadly. And I believe that’s their history. If you think the Israeli army isn’t that great, well, okay. Despite your disparagement of the Isaeli military as a bunch of petulant collage kids, best I can tell from where I‘m sitting they’ve never been defeated in battle. Maybe you were offended by their lack of respect for you?

      You may underestimate the Israeli military, but I doubt any of their enemies do.

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    • DR4SOUL
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:42am

      This idiotic move on the part of our pathetic president does nothing more than open the way for homosexual activists to flant their “in your face” deviant behavior all the more. This puts Bible-believing military chaplains in an untenable position. How can they preach and teach what the Word of God says without facilitating and empowing some outed homosexual’s lawsuit? It puts Bible-believing Christians who serve is a difficult position as well. They are now going to be exposed to the open promotion and agressive sexual behavior of the gay activists who will use this opening to propagate their unnatural cause in yet more societal venues, citing their success with our spineless president and our compliant military leadership. OBAMA, once more you have demonstrated you moral and intellectual ineptitude

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    • VET4TRUTH
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 7:15am

      @JZS
      Israel has a draft, age 18 every man and woman is drafted. They all serve for at least 2 years. I believe that bringing back the “draft” was one of the keys issues made here earlier. The removal of DADT may be in preparation to just that. Rahm “Dead Fish” Emmanual said the same thing. Trust me when I tell you, you do not want a draft for our military. Those of you that have served and are serving with me now , know exactly why I say this. Leaving the **** thing aside for a second. A draft would train too many people with no moral compass. We are trained and conditioned to shoot, move and communicate. We are trained how to do drive-by shortings, home invasions/siezures, recruit, make IED’s/VBIEDs. The list goes on. Do you think law enforcement could handle a gang of pipehitters running loose in the city? We already have a gang problem in the Service now.

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    • Live_Free_orDie
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 9:09am

      What does Moabama care…he never served, and it’s just another way he can collapse out Country. BTW…I‘m a BOS’N 3…still in 37yrs (combined AD and Res) and I agree w/Lylejk…Keep it in your pants and do your job! I won’t tell you I like sheep (j/k) and we don‘t need to know you’re a rump ranger.

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    • Bluebonnet
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 10:51am

      As long as it isn’t “in your face” people can do whatever they wish. When I see these gay pride parades it only makes me want to go barf. I know some gays and like them, but I don’t like having it flaunted in our faces at every turn. This open gay in military is very bad. It was better not knowing, unless the entire military is gay.

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    • StonyBurk
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:06pm

      I served as an Army Medic from June 69- -Jan.77.when Clinton announced DADT I wrote that President.
      The White House responded by changing my Christian name to SEIG HEIL. The next day (Sundays
      excepted) I ceased to be called a Democrat. Either this President is LIEING AGAIN an the Repeal will have little or No effect. IF the UCMJ remains as it was under Clinton .Little or nothing will change.The Reprobate will continue to be discharged and their queer attorneys will continue to complain . IF this is indeed a fundamental change in our Military– and sodomite allowed serve openly–it cannot help but harm Recruitment and Retention and Discipline( the name Barry Winchell comes to mind– NO I do NOT buy the LIE that he was murdered because he happened to be Gay) So That Makes the President and his YES man Panetta LIARS. Beguilers who either do not understand the foundations and the meaning of the term used “equal” or do not understand the nature of the homosexual sexual orientation . The only other possibility I see it their Evil intent to destroy our Military. And such ought be IMPEACHABLE.

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    • Rightnow
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 11:38pm

      What I find truly astounding is that someone that never served in the scouts let alone the military would make such a controversial and wide-reaching policy as this. He has no idea of military culture. He doesn’t understand their way of life at all. This is all political just in hopes of getting re-elected and serving an agenda. This has nothing to do with rights or fairness, it has everything to do with money and who can better serve the left in the future.
      WHEN DID CONSERVATIVES GET SO POWERLESS??

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    • 2012 Change
      Posted on July 25, 2011 at 12:25am

      Well spoken and true. Turning our back on God’s way will bring a decline to the military. Of course under Obama unemployed will top 10% leaving no option other than the military for the unemployed. Change we can suffer in.

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  • Red-Rocka
    Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:30pm

    Im sick of gays using the rainbow as there flag…how could they use something that was used by God as a promise and us it to parade around like being gay is the way…just makes me mad

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    • iamHeidi
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:37pm

      Me too. Poor rainbows. I’m taking them back. Rainbows are still beautiful and I’m not gay.

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    • mutslie
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:39pm

      Hope n‘ change we can beleive in’ ? (The hybred 08′)……..’change of sex ? h’mmm hope NOT

      Marines jumping from planes yelling ‘Geronimo’ with a high voice ‘nah not a good look’.

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    • Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 6:13pm

      Technicly, it’s not a rainbow. A proper, primary colors spectrum has seven colors corresponding to the mnemonic “Roy G. Biv”. The Gay Flag, as used since 1979, only has six colors, omitting indigo (the I in Biv) since it’s so similar to violet.

      And long before it was a Judeo-Christian symbol, it was a representation of a simple, fundamental, physical phenomenon of sunlight passing through water vapour. rather presumptuous of you to say that one group‘s claim on the import of the symbol should trump another’s. I see no reason why you can‘t use it as a symbol of god’s promise while LGBT people use it as a simple of diversity and solidarity.

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    • mikem1969
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 7:15pm

      Drop all the gays and lesbians in the US into the middle east, they will turn straight REAL QUICK.

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    • SacredHonor1776
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 7:23pm

      Lesbian, you make valid points.

      However, symbols are powerful messages, and mean many things to many different people!

      The swastika for example can be a very evil thing, or a very positive thing! But to someone who doesn’t like Nazis, may take offense from a Swastika seen in another culture (Navajo, Asian, etc), if they are ignorant of other beliefs! BTW, both the clockwise and counterclockwise Swastikas predate the Nazi use of the symbol.

      Your average person, doesn‘t realize a ’missing color’, and see it as a corruption of a symbol. Since they see the alternatve symbol as offensive, they see that offensive to their use of the symbol.

      No I’m not comparing Homosexuals to Nazis! Nazis didn’t like Homosexuals. They do not have anything in common. But the point is, you’ll never convince someone to accept other symbols, especially if they already have a passionate view of the symbol in the first place.

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    • Libertyluvnmomma
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 9:38pm

      Red- find something useful to be angry at.
      Gays haven’t cornered the market on rainbows. I’ve never seen gays at the end of the ones in the sky..they are called leprechauns.

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  • Old Truckers
    Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:30pm

    All you Mom‘s and Dad’s who are so proud of your son’s, now you can send your “Johnny” to a new and much improved military, without any fear that he will be corrupted or changed.
    Or, maybe it would be like sending him into Sodom. But don’t worry. he will be fine.
    Don’t worry, be happy now.

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    • WhatsYerProblem
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:40pm

      I may be wrong here, but I don’t think the number of gays in the military is going to change. The only thing changing is the don’t-ask-don’t tell policy, meaning if a soldier wants to tell everyone he’s gay, he can. Something tells me most gay soldiers won’t want to do that. So we‘re talking about a few activist gays who want everyone to know they’re gay?
      Why is everyone acting like this is the end of the world?

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    • Old Truckers
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:54pm

      Whatsyourproblem – Why is everyone acting like this is the end of the world?

      It is not according to wisdom that you ask that question.

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  • Seasoldier
    Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:29pm

    This is a sad day for military readiness. Mark it down as the point at which it began to became impossible for men of good conscience to serve God, Country and Corps (or other service) without losing their integrity. Religiously faithful Christian families have long provided a large portion of the volunteers who serve in our Armed Forces. Mark this also as the day when those religiously faithful Christian families will have to consider telling their sons and daughters that they can no longer recommend that they volunteer to serve in the Armed Forces if it means exposing themselves to the homosexual agenda designed to undermine our country. This is a victory for the Socialist Culture of Death Elitists, and our nation’s military leaders have surrendered.

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  • Cuthalu
    Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:28pm

    My suggestion to anyone in the military that are christian, get out now.

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    • Ironmaan
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:32pm

      I never understood the aversion to having gays in the military. They should have the priviledge of dying for our country just like the straight people do.

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    • WhatsYerProblem
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:32pm

      ‘Cause Christian’s should shun gays? I’m not for open gayness in the military, but there are other solutions that are not as knee-jerk as that…

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    • Chet Hempstead
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:43pm

      Get out and do what? Go to an all straight college? Get a job in an all straight business?

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  • So
    Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:27pm

    What does Obama care?

    He is going after the gay vote for 2012.

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    • iamHeidi
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:34pm

      He most certainly is, that obummer. He’s looking under, over and around everything to get votes. I can’t stand it. He just plain sucks as president too. I’m miserable.

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    • Dodot
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:38pm

      Absolutely he got that one and then he won on the union including the 40k+ from the TSA. Obviously he needed this vote cUse he lost votes from Jewish population. He got votes from the illegal which crazy…..ok Im a permanent resident but ar least we pay tax as much as everyone and yet I can’t vote and also i pay mortgage. I was born and raised in Indonesian with chinese christian backround….and it was tough growing up there….and i lived and visited all continents in the world….America still is the best place to live but….what I don’t understand is….why this admininstration want to go backwards istead of forward. Do Obama and the rest of the admnistration really hate this country? Their ancestors came here for a better life and yet they are want to regress? And this is a colombia and harvard graduates?

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  • Rational Man
    Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:26pm

    Obama finally kept an ‘08 campaign promise to his base. Just in time for his re-election bid!

    I assume we will be hearing of more individuals in the millitary being killed by ‘friendly fire’.
    Gays should be careful what they ask for………………..
    Now everytime a homosexual doesn‘t ’make the grade’ in the millitary, it will be labeled as discrimination.

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  • Nations
    Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:26pm

    Now we can sit back and watch Gays destroy our Military from within just like their campaign to destroy morality in virtually every instance in our human society. What is it about their behavior that is endorsable by the Laws of Society. How close are their actions to the sexual predators who are in our communities who lurk about with our children? We consider them as criminals. No News service has ever really told the sordid story of what these folks really do. It seems women are totally clueless about this issue and protect them. Many folks are afraid to go to the local parks at night because Gay are running around nude chasing each other. The media is culpable and in many cases are inundated with practitioners of this malfeasance to social behavior. We once had a fine military and now Obama has shot our nation in the foot or some other vital organ by his egregious actions as usual.

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    • Obama>Jesus
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 9:41pm

      Funny, that sounds exactly like what people said over 100 years ago when blacks tried to join the military (and again 50 years alter), or 25 years ago when woman tried to join the military. Your stupidity is only surpassed by your bigotry.

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    • AmericanDogMan
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 2:09am

      @Obama=Satan person

      You are vile despicable and a Racist, who does not their history.

      To compare black men who fought openly and honorably in every war this nation has ever had to H0m0$exuals who who want to practice a form of vouyeri$m by telling everyone with whom and how they p!ea$ure themselves!!

      Points

      1. ****$exua!ity is a feti$h that should be practiced in private like all $ex acts!
      2. Telling people how you p!easure yourself is vouyerism
      3. The military will now be compared to prison in comedic circles! Especially considering the amount of Le$bian females who serve! It’s hard enough for a straight woman that wants to serve! All the feminist should take a bow and say thank you very much
      4. I can’t take off my skin!

      Closing!

      Was there racism post reconstruction 1890-1960 sure there was! Drinking fountains fighting to fly planes and the like! Were white men afraid black men were going to stick them with the H!V infected l0ve st!ck in the shower or in the mid of the night. H3ll N0 they didn’t!!

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  • jechamracing
    Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:25pm

    What does it matter we will be broke in 60 days and won’t be able to pay our military anyways. He has time for this but not DEBT!! Wonder when TEE time is?

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    • chips1
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 8:07pm

      It gives “a hole in one” a whole new meaning.

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  • blazingaway
    Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:24pm

    Perhaps we could have a gay brigade.
    What is going to happen is what happen with Hitler and his nazis.
    The SS was full of homosexual and sadomasochism.
    We are going to see more and more of the darker side of homosexuals.
    The more we tolerate it, accept it, permit it, celebrate it, condone it.
    The rape stories will come next. I won’t be long. The discrimination against heterosexuals will be next.

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    • momprayn
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:47pm

      Yes, you don’t see reported the crimes going on re homosexuals …just like they protect Muslims & don’t report the rapes, crimes they commit here in our cities – like Dearborn, MI.
      Both the gays and the Muslims are known for gathering into gangs and attacking innocent people – happened here in Texas not long ago. And yes, the more it’s accepted, the more they will get more violent, etc. We’ll just have to learn the hard way……..

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  • Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
    Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:24pm

    Now we can move forward to doing the real job of the military, defending this country from its enemies, not being a Theocratic social experiment.

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    • Papalima28
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:39pm

      Here you are again…What’s your problem? Are you a heterophob?

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    • Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:51pm

      No. I like heterosexuals. Some of my best friends are heterosexuals. I like heterosexuals serving openly in our nation’s military. I like heterosexuals able to marry other heterosexuals in marriage ceremonies, either civilly, or in religious houses of worship that are willing to perform such services.

      Can you say the same thing about homosexuals?

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    • Dustyluv
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 6:02pm

      If you were in the Military and were captured by AlQueda, would you tell them you were homosexuaal if they asked or would you revert back to dont ask dont tell?

      I as a Christian would have no problem telling them I was a Christian and I would die for my faith…Would you die for your choice?

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    • REPUB1
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 6:03pm

      Be carful not to break a Nail!!!

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    • Lesbian Packing Hollow Points
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 12:03am

      @DustyLuv:
      Be oh so very careful about challenging a person with regard to what they are willing to die for. You have no idea what I am passionate about and am willing to die for. I know that if I am to be executed for being who or what I am, as an Atheist (one of the primary things I would die to defend), it will be a moment of agony followed by oblivion, utter nothingness, insensativity. I have no fear, as religionists do, of “Have I been a proper believer in my god?“ ”Will my god embrace me or have I angered him in ignorance and am bound for eternal torment in Hell?”

      No. There is utter clarity in my mind, and there will be right through the torture and torment of haters (who are generally religionists) and through the blade to the neck or the bullet to the head. If I am able, I will stare my torturer/executioner right in the eyes and dare them to think they’ve broken me, even as the life ebbs from my eyes.,

      I know a lot of “good Christians” and macho males will claim this is false bravado, but consider this… I grew up in rural Indiana the target of daily torment and torture for who and what I am. I’ve already experienced the humiliation and the dehumanization and the stripping of all pretense of civility. Were I to fall into the hands of Islamofasists (or Christofascists) intent on deleting me for being me, they can do nothing to me, instill no new fears in me, than I’ve already experienced at the hands of classmates.

      Bring it.

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    • usnavyflyer
      Posted on July 24, 2011 at 6:47am

      Obviously has no idea what they would do to her or what being a POW would entail in a culture of someone like Al Quaeda

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  • jonnyd_94
    Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:24pm

    your willingness to offer your life in defense of this country should be what is important, not who you’d like to marry. There are many military gentleman I‘ve known over the years who aren’t always the most upstanding human beings behind closed doors, so I don’t think people should rush to judgment on a persons character and honor on their sexuality, so this decision is the first one Obama has made that I can agree with.

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  • the58thstate
    Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:23pm

    this makes me sick! just another way to divide us is what he is doing. this is dangerous in the middle of a few wars and morale is going to be very bad. this isnt even a problem but for a very few so why mess with it at all? this is the most american hating person i have seen in my life and to think he pretends to be the president. he has no clue and is nothing more than a comunity organizer. very dangerous is this man and needs to be stopped before more damage is done.

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  • trooper
    Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:20pm

    That’s just great, the closet homosexual and chief is going to destroy our moralistic society by every means possible. It’s time for this person to go!

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    • jonnyd_94
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:27pm

      its commander IN chief…not AND

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    • Libertyluvnmomma
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 9:45pm

      Homosexuality is a lot like gluttony, start attacking the fatties too. the gamblers, infidels….
      No sin should be exempt.

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  • concealled9mms
    Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:20pm

    wow such important stuff adolph obamma ,now that you got the important crap done why dont you now show us your proposal for the dept crisis we are all waiting to see your plan. quit your stupid speeches and show us where your head is at

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  • dupaws
    Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:18pm

    I am sure glad I served in the military when you only had to worry about your butt were the enemy was concerned, This is an absolute abomination

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  • vtxphantom
    Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:17pm

    Ok. He gets to screw more of our government up. When are people going to realize this SOB needs to be impeached.

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  • conservative_teacher
    Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:15pm

    Who gives a rat’s a$$? Jesus, don’t we have bigger fish to fry in this country? 1% of the adult population in America is Gay. Only 35% of the total adult population is eligible to serve in the U.S. Military. Do the math. WHO CARES! Let’s move on and deal with some REAL issues!

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    • concealled9mms
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:20pm

      right on

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    • WhatsYerProblem
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:36pm

      double right-on. This is a non-issue that is being trumpeted by the media so they can make it a talking point – try to paint conservatives as bigots if they disagree.
      As General Akbar said…”IT’S A TRAP!!!”

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    • Bro Geo Too
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:53pm

      Dear Wrong & Wronger,

      I care and so do many others in this country. This IS a big deal. This is another swipe at our nation‘s moral foundation by a sorry excuse of a president who seems committed to our country’s demise.

      Why is it that for centuries religions and cultures have held to the notion that homosexuality is aberrant, deviant, and perverted? The answer is that homosexual behavior is inherently evil and tears at the fabric of society. The fact Obama continues to champion the homosexual agenda is proof he is not only unfit to lead this country, he is in fact, dangerous.

      Sincerely,
      Bro Geo

      P.S. It matters not how many people climb aboard the homosexual bandwagon, the fact remains it is evil, perverted, and terribly misguided.

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    • hannahh
      Posted on July 23, 2011 at 5:42am

      Apparently your clown in chief thinks it’s a big fish to fry.

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  • ion
    Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:15pm

    So now is the time if you are not gay to get out, they can fight for their own right or die.

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  • UlyssesP
    Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:14pm

    Well wddaya know….That’s So Gaaaay!®

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  • Islesfordian
    Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:14pm

    The history of the US military living up to a higher standard of behavior has just been thrown out the window by this lightweight pinhead.

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  • bitter clinger
    Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:12pm

    How would you like to be one of the soldiers in that photo?

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  • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
    Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:11pm

    Obama is going to do all he can to damage the US in the time he has left.

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  • cloudsofwar
    Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:09pm

    Headline: now Obama can serve. in the navy(village people).

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  • TEIN
    Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:09pm

    What test are they going to give to show that a solider is gay or straight?? Are there going to be separate barracks just like separate barracks for men and woman?? Is the Pres. going to do way with any morality standard for armed service??

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    • Ella
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:19pm

      I‘m sure Obama didn’t consider even for a nano second the logistics of this decision. All he thought about is the gay vote. Now he’s locked it up.

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    • Old Truckers
      Posted on July 22, 2011 at 5:21pm

      For most people, there are no morality standards anymore! Who is standing up for morals?
      Haven’t you been paying attention to the last 20 years?
      We have now come to the conclusion, as a nation, that it just doesn’t matter anymore.

      Sad isn’t it.

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