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Obama Stumbles Through Answer When Confronted on Health Care Law’s Future

If you ask Obama his thoughts on the future of his controversial health care bill, he‘ll tell you that he’s confident it will be upheld. But it might take him a while to give you that answer.

Obama stumbled while trying to give a cogent response when asked why it would be unprecedented for the Court to overturn his health law when that’s exactly what the court does, and what he would do for individuals who would miss out on care if the law was overturned.

(Related: Obama warns “unelected” justices about judicial activism)

“First of all, let me be very specific,” Obama said before launching into a nearly six-minute response filled with pauses and blank stares. “We have not seen a court overturn a law that was passed by Congress on an economic issue like health care, that I think most people would clearly consider commerce, a law like that has not been overturned at least since Lochner, so we’re going back to the thirties, pre New Deal.”

“The point I was making was that the Supreme Court is the final say on our Constitution and our laws and all of us have to respect it, but it’s precisely because of that extraordinary power that the Court has traditionally exercised significant restraint and deference to our duly-elected legislature, our congress. And so the burden is on those who would overturn a law like this.

“Now, as I said, I expect the Supreme Court to actually recognize that and to abide by well-established precedents out there.”

While struggling to connect his thoughts, he went on to say he is not getting contingency plans ready because he expects the law to be upheld:

But Obama’s assertion that such a law dealing with the Commerce Clause has not been overturned is a curious one. For example, in 1994 the court struck down school-zone gun legislation that was based on that part of the Constitution.

On Monday, Fox’s Judge Andrew Napolitano ripped into the president for inaccuracies in his argument for the law and against the Court:

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  • dreardon31
    Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:06pm

    Quote the Church Lady. “And who was called the great ACCUSER!…..Could it be?……SATAN!”

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    • kcinco
      Posted on April 5, 2012 at 10:58pm

      Isn’t that special?!

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    • cosette
      Posted on April 9, 2012 at 2:20pm

      @JZS- You have a hell of a nerve, telling me I’m confused. I SAW the letter. I read the letter. I‘m am not a liar and I’m NOT confused. He WASN’T denied insurance. He WAS accepted into the plan at A 100% higher rate. Obamacare says you cannot be denied. It says nothing about what you willl have to PAY. Stupid moron!

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    • joe conservative
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 11:02pm

      They keep trying to convince us that this man is a great speech maker. I think he sounds like an idiot, but at least he’s been to 57 states….with 2 to go, and Alaska and Hawaii, his staff wouldn’t let him go to. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhpXDNIocJw

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    • JohnTwoFeathers
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 2:17pm

      Ah….Ah…But a…barma Congress…ah…ah…go down ta…ah…ah But a…Supreme ..Ah…ah were you a … Ah …ah I’m not goin to make Ah.Ah….any excuses…..Ah……..Ah…..were you on da…..Ah……ah…motorcycle when…..Ah…Ah…But a…Haben Sack……Ah..been on…..Ah…AAAAh…da went ta………..Ah…..hodenragen. Vote fo me.

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    • Anamah
      Posted on April 20, 2012 at 3:45am

      Where has gone the Messiah? Suddenly he shows how dumb he is. Even he doesn’t know to speak answering a simply question. Or is he trying to hypnotize the audience with this interminable and monotone explanation?

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  • bernbart
    Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:01pm

    CATB. Before Obama’s healtht reform many people could be denied health insurance, and health services. Since the Affordable Care Act was passed that has changed. Not all of the reform has kicked in yet . It is gradually rolling out over several yeas. The mandate, which is to take effect in 2014, just required the 1% people who could afford to buy health insurance , but instead free load off of those who do, to buy insurance. The Affordable Care a Act has opened up benefits to many peopled who were perviouly coverage in the past.
    Benefits in effect today: If you have PRIVATE INSURANCE
    - No more lifetime caps on coverage.
    - Access to free preventive care.
    - Insurance companies can’t deny coverage to kids with pre-existing conditions.
    - Young adults can stay on the family insurance plan until age 26.
    - Insurance companies have to spend 80% of premiums on care
    - Independent experts review rate increases of 10% or more.
    Benefits in 2014:
    - No more charging women more than men.
    - Insurance companies can’t deny coverage or charge more for anyone with a pre-existing condition.
    - Everyone has access to affordable insurance – so if you lose your job or want to change jobs or start a business, you’ll know your family can get affordable care.

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    • BehindTheMouth
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:03pm

      Great, but why should I have to pay for it?

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    • Mandors
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:13pm

      They were “uncovered,” that didn‘t mean they didn’t receive healthcare. We‘re bankrupting the country for lowlifes and deadbeat loser students which if you didn’t know-you Barry apologist troll-are Barry’s electorate in a nutshell.

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    • Michael61
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:16pm

      “Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and the government when it deserves it”. – Mark Twain

      “The spirit of democracy cannot be imposed from without. It has to come from within”. – Mohandas K. Gandhi

      “The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty”. – John Adams, 2nd US President

      “It would indeed be ironic if, in the name of national defense, we would sanction the subversion of one of those liberties which make the defense of our nation worthwhile”. – Earl Warren

      “The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, and love of soft living and the get-rich-quick theory of life”. – Theodore Roosevelt

      “If we make peaceful revolution impossible, we make violent revolution inevitable”. – John F. Kennedy

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    • Michael61
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:17pm

      “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.” – Marcus Tullius Cicero

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    • BlackCrow
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:22pm

      Coercive contracts are not binding. If two parties are forced into a contract then the contract is null and void. The other point is the Congress has no authority to force anyone to purchase anything as a condition of citizenship. This is an issue of fundamental liberty!

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    • Blackhawk1
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:23pm

      BehindTheMouth

      Great, but why should I have to pay for it?

      Because Obama said you are an evil capitalist and must pay for all his freeloading supporters.

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    • disgustedandappalled
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:26pm

      Again, read the constitution. You cannot “Mandate”.

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    • junior1971
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:30pm

      BERNBART- No more lifetime caps on coverage.= 2700 pages?
      – Access to free preventive care.=free rubbers?
      – Insurance companies can’t deny coverage to kids with pre-existing conditions.= Smokers already have that covered, don’t they?
      – Young adults can stay on the family insurance plan until age 26.=If young people can stay on their parents insurance, how and why are they expected to purchase insurance under the mandate?
      – Insurance companies have to spend 80% of premiums on care=Who cover the overhead cost, the young people on their parents insurance?
      – Independent experts review rate increases of 10% or more.=This could be a direct result of lawsuits and or fraudulent activity. What does the law say about resolving that?
      Benefits in 2014:
      – No more charging women more than men.=Do they need more care than men? What if they are pregnant?
      – Insurance companies can’t deny coverage or charge more for anyone with a pre-existing condition.=I smoke. You pay for it! I guarentee that I will be forced to either quit, pay more than others, or I get the pain killer!
      – Everyone has access to affordable insurance – so if you lose your job or want to change jobs or start a business, you’ll know your family can get affordable care.=How will I pay my fair share if I have no job?

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    • TheObamanation
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:34pm

      Thank you Ronald Reagan for giving us Justice Kennedy … buh bye obamacare

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    • 000degrees
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:36pm

      I kept waiting for Bugs Bunny to show up with a big hammer and thump this cartoon president during this video…….Waskeley prwesident…..

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    • DADDYOF4PLUS1
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:54pm

      Bernbart has obviously drawn long and deep from the kool-aid well. There are so many things wrong with your points to support Obama’s healthcare scheme I am not sure where to start.
      1…Let us not forget first and foremost that everything the federal gov’t touches turns to excrement.
      ..Social Security, Medicare, Wall street, Fed Reserve, modern warfare, foreign relations, etc. The list goes on.
      2…While wonderful to look at on the surface, the fact is that this utopian version of health care reform simply cannot be paid for and will not ever be paid for. Deficit city guaranteed.
      3…When has anyone been “entitled” to health care? or anything for that matter? Where does it end? Our entitlement culture today is enslaving us to the entitlers.
      4… Our forefathers understood that the only entitlements worth dying for and relying on (Life, Liberty and pursuit of happiness) are those set in place since the creation of the world we live in. Placed there by an infallible, omipotent, omniscient, perfect God. Gov’t of ANY kind is not even close. The constitution is the closest we‘ve ever come and is still far from God’s level of perfection.
      5… All of modern politics is purely about personal gain of power. There are no public servants anymore. Obama’s health care is just to gain power. I promise you he cares not for the sovereign american citizen. His goal is put the thumb down harder on our necks through this legislation. God help us all.

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    • Carolynp
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:54pm

      The average person will contribute 150k to medicare and take 400k out. This is an unsustainable model. Anytime you add a link to the supply chain, the cost increases. This is why the socialized healthcare model has no alternative except rationing to lower costs. Women in England do not have access to easily obtainable breast cancer drugs because of the cost of the drugs. So, wealthy Brits get those drugs outside of the country and poor Brits die of breast cancer. If my health insurance attempted to tell me I couldn’t have those drugs, I could complain to the government. Who do I complain to when the government is involved? The simple answer is no one. Healthcare for women is demonstrably more expensive. That is why insurance costs more for women. We can run around with our fingers in our ears singing “la la la”, but it doesn’t change the fact that adding government to the supply chain will kill more poor women in the US. I get that you are sold on the central med idea, but don‘t try to play it off like you’re some champion of the poor or women. This is simply about continuing a broken model for the benefit of childish egos.

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    • cessna152
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 4:06pm

      I can’t even stomach this guy for more than .0000001 seconds. I did not listen but assume that he said ” the Republicans want to kill women and old people, that the Judges are partisan politicians, Tea party are racists, Treyvonn looks like his son and the oil companies and Bush are to blame”.

      Please God… even though we pray for our government we also pray against evil.

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    • bullcrapbuster
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 4:08pm

      Sooooooo let the states do it if they can get it passed. Big brother needs to mind his own business. The constitution is all about stopping federal tyranny

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    • tzion
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 4:23pm

      Having everyone insured does zero to address any of the real issues. The reason we have insurance is because health care costs so much but instead of trying to find ways to make health care itself cheaper Obama’s solution is just to make everyone pay for it so no one person is paying “too much”. Why not fund research that seeks to find cheaper ways of treating people or producing our medicine? Why not pass legislation that protects doctors from frivolous lawsuits (which makes them charge more so they can cover the court fees)? Obamacare doesn’t solve the problem, he just kicked the can down the road along with all the debt he’s put us under.

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    • EP46
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 4:26pm

      @BERNBART
      Where does the money come from? Where will the doctors come from ? We do not have enough doctors….doctors will change professions because they will not earn enough money to have a private practice…Equal access to health care will not mean EQUAL treatment….treatment will be rationed.

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    • SgtB
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 4:39pm

      You must be a flipp’in lunatic Bernbart. Why do you think that a woman might have to pay more for insurance than a man??? Maybe it is the fact that a man cannot get pregnant and we have a shorter life span meaning that in general, we have less money spent on us for our healthcare over our lifetime. Also, if a woman is planning on getting pregnant, she is either a Nadya Suleman or she is a normal woman in a committed relationship with a man and she and he are already paying for their bills in unison making the increased cost a null and void issue.

      The only people this bill helps are the people who want to control your life and the single idiots out there pumping out kids so they can get a gov‘t paycheck because we as a society think that no child should have to suffer for their ignorant parent’s decisions or ignorance. Personally, I think that if you cannot take care of your child, then you are a worthless human being.

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    • AOL_REFUGEE
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 4:45pm

      “I expect the Supreme Court to actually recognize that and to abide by well-established precedents out there.”

      Out where? Out in outer space? This space cadet is really a sick, sad joke.

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    • Miami
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 4:45pm

      I wonder if he is capable of telling the truth…?

      His guy lies when he doesn’t have to and yet here they come.

      As for his grasp of the Constitution, I know he has said he was a Constitutional Scholar but I would like some proof of that… Anything a test score, a class grade or even a paper he wrote anything !!!

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    • SgtB
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 4:47pm

      @ Tzion, because the things that would make healthcare cost less are not what the gov’t or the AMA want. They don’t want you to forgo the expensive and radiation bombarding x-rays and various other scans when you break a finger or get a fracture. They don’t want to just make you better, they want an excuse to have all of their machines and the only way they can afford the expense of leasing or buying those machines is to use them on patients and bill them for it. Also, alot of recommendations on how to make healthcare cost less would involve such novel ideas as stopping the fluoridation of water and the ending the now needless vaccines that people are getting. But the American economy is now largely based in the healthcare profession. If we actually had doctors who wanted to help patients by providing just the services they needed and when they needed them, the healthcare field would take a stumble economically. The gov’t and AMA are trying to treat us all like members of an HOA when all we want to do is build a tree house for our kid and they call it a public eyesore and condemn our home as blighted. They have far too much control over our health as it is and they are reaching so far that soon their wrist will be within striking distance of my meat cleaver. CHOP!!!

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    • Favored93
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 5:20pm

      Just so you know this will be the first time in the nations history that the gov’t has been able to DEMAND that a product is purchased by every citizen just because they exist! Were does that power end?
      Be careful all you communist progressive trolls you may just get what you are asking for……TYRANNY!!!!

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    • lani59
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 5:27pm

      Another words, I (Obama), command that the SCOTUS to kneel down before me and vote that this mandate is constitutional. When your convinced that you’re the anoited one and king of America, how could anybody think that they could deny your commands.

      ALL HAIL THE CONFUSED POTUS!

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    • BehindBlueEyes
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 5:30pm

      Just what is affordable about the affordable health care act (aka Obamacare)?

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 5:46pm

      Whenever Obama starts with “let me be clear”(in this case…“let me be specific”)….it is ALWAYS followed by a stream of rambling, incoherent, nebulous banalities that are anything but clear.
      Let‘s talk about Obama’s “well established precendents”. That’s Obama double talk. There ARE NO precendents for this law. NONE! And the supreme has already made that clear. This is the biggest overreach and mangling of the commerce clause ever attempted by an administration. Then what Obama‘s saying when he’s saying “I expect the supreme court to actually recognize that”..is “I expect the supreme to base their decision on the political ramifications of this bill rather than the constitutional ones”. All this from what’s supposed to be a senior lecturer on constitutional law.
      Obama has no contingency plan because he outsourced the bill to Pelos, Reid and the unions. He also knows it’s no point putting a new bill together it will not pass this house this time around.
      So we have the all too familiar…”uh uh uh..let me be clear..uh..uh..uh” from Obama.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 5:58pm

      I’m sorry BERNBART….but when my employer decides he’d rather pay the fine (or is it a tax?) than pay for my benefits…do I just go ahead and pay the fines (or are they taxes?) each year until I get seriously ill and then I won’t be denied coverage when I am seriously ill? And what will that do to my premiums? Oh and tell me why Physician Owned Hospitals are no longer permitted to build new centers or expand current ones under Obamacare. So much for choice right? I’ll be waiting for your response.
      Oh and one more thing BERNBART….the CBO just priced Obamacare. It’s now going to cost $1.76 trillion. So when Obama crowed about bringing it under $1 trillion he was wrong. He as wrong because the budget tricks and rosier than rosy budget predictions he, Pelosi and Reid used were laughably inadequate for such an expensive venture. When critics said there’s no way you can expand Medicaid to cover an additional 30 million people (formerly 47 million when Obama was including illegals) without incurring HUGE costs…they were right. In just over 2 years..Obamacare’s cost has nearly doubled and as you pointed out earlier…the “treats” haven’t even kicked in yet.
      Get better material idiot.

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    • SoldierEconomist
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 6:02pm

      This is an exceptional example of a red herring. The fact that the act created those things does not justify its constitutionality. The constitutionality of the law is purely determined by the exact wording of the Constitution. The federal government may regulate commerce. It is not allowed to force commerce through coercion in order to then have the power to regulate.

      To say that this allowing people more affordable access is an absolute falsehood. Premiums have already risen because the insurers cannot price risk into individual premiums so we all end up paying more regardless of how well we take care of our own health.

      Additionally this law has created shortages in lifesaving medicine to include drugs used to treat cancer or to aide in recovery after a heart attack (namely sodium bicarbonate) because the FDA is used as a Pit Bull against the drug companies if they won’t agree to sell pharmaceuticals at below market prices to the government. In order to avoid that they choose not to make those drugs that the government demands, in order to prevent be regulated.

      We have effectively given ourselves the same issues the Soviet Union faced from its early days to its final days. The fact is that free market economics work when we refuse to allow politicians to choose winner and losers, and rather let individuals choose with the dollars they spend.

      It would be best if you reference the historical failures of command driven economies before you spout off f

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    • Ruler4You
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 6:15pm

      LOL! He’s in denial.

      And, my friends, that ain’t a river in Egypt.

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    • gremx360
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 6:17pm

      Yeah right, I’ve onl;y been turned down 3 times, since Obamacare was put into law, you people are dreaming, if you think Government health care is so wonderful, why are countries that have it going bankrupt,,,we’re already bankrupt

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    • IMAWAKENOW
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 6:25pm

      you know why womwn may have to pay higher premiums? Because pregnancy is very expensive, 0% chance a dude will get pregnant. Pretty good chance a female between 16 and 40 will.

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    • GravityGuy
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 6:28pm

      Bernbart, What you lefty lunatics can’t seem to get into your thick skulls is that poor people will still be poor, and plenty of those that currently don‘t have insurance because they can’t afford it, will STILL not be able to afford to pay for the insurance or the penalty for not having insurance, which means… WE WILL STILL BE PAYING FOR THEM. At some point, the liberal idiots will moan and cry that the unforunate need it provided at no cost to them, which means cost to everyone else.

      Under this new swell deal that is being forced upon us, if a person can‘t afford to buy insurance and forgets or can’t afford to pay the “penalty” they will suddenly become a criminal for breaking a Federal Law. Their driver’s license will be suspended and that lovely collection company called the IRS will be harassing the hell out of them.

      We need a new slogan… America, land of the enslaved. Get used to it.

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    • stephirose
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 6:33pm

      this is just another step the progressives HAVE to take before they take it to a single payer level. Do not be fooled. The working few CANNOT pay for all the medical needs of the rest. they have done nothing to cut down on waste and fraud. I am waiting for someone anyone to point out that health insurance is NOT healthcare. I live in rural community and maybe some people do not have easy access to care but having insurance will not change that one bit. I suggest people try to read what they are so blindly supporting. A gov take over of everything is not the answer for freedom loving people.

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    • Lucy Larue
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 6:38pm

      @MICHAEL61,
      Merci for your most apt post!
      I too posted this here last week. It cannot be shared enough.
      Nos La Ami Bernbart and his ilk will never, ever, comprendre! That is why our nation suffers!

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    • YOUR NOT GETTING MY GUNS
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 6:41pm

      Obama’s definition of affordable for everyone= free to most.

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    • Plutos_Pal
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 6:44pm

      Every single one of those benefits will do nothing but increase the cost of healthcare. Nothing in ObamaCare will do anything to reduce rising healthcare costs.

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    • jhurin
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 7:27pm

      No Country in this world has ever had a successful nationalized healthcare plan. IT DOES NOT WORK!! The examples are many and are not hidden. This administration knows that but they want the socialist government in place and government in full control of the people. That is not the intent of our Constitution and our fore fathers who wrote it. This adminstration wants to continue to use democratic panic propaganda to promote their socialist programs and ruin this great nation. I pray to God for His help. This man should not remain president. He should be impeached. I don’t have enough room to list his arrogant violations.

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    • DisgustedinCT
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 7:42pm

      I really don‘t give a rat’s ass what it covers.
      My problem and more than half of America’s problem is:
      creating another government agency out of it
      forcing people to buy it whether they want to or not
      forcing people to pay for others -(spreading the wealth in healthcare)
      Allowing the irs and local police to access our medical records -(yes it is in there, how do you think they are going to enforce it)
      and the list goes on.
      Sorry but the government has no right to dicate a person must buy healthcare insurance.
      If it stands what is next:
      forcing people to give up on drinking, smoking, eating only certain foods, not allowing you to have suger or salt -(oh wait, take a look at NY, some of those rules are already in effect),
      mandating you must work out a certain number of hours every week, all in the guise of better health for you.
      Once we go down that slope it will be harder to come back up

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    • dmerwin
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 7:45pm

      SgtB
      I’m a nurse and all those machines you are talking about really do save lives. I also agree that much can be done to lower health care costs. Most are common sense, if there were tort reform doctors could avoid a lot of expensive tests by ruling IN the most common disorder associated with a symptom and not search for the test that proves conclusively that it is not a one in 3 million differential diagnosis. Defensive medicine (fear of being sued) has afflicted our society. Should there be damages for negligence? Of course but most of this is BS. Take obstetrics, now at the first sign of any change in the monitor the GYN will opt for a C-section, because IF something goes wrong, even congenitally, the Doc might get sued. Shortening patents on drugs or at least standardization would make generics more prevalent. Eliminating tax loopholes for drug company advertising would reduce drug costs dramatically, really how many times do we need to see the “Viagra Man” solve a problem or the “Cialis couple” take a bath? Also remember that many patients see a doctor for a severe cold or cough what they need is an excuse for work, not antibiotics, but they are prescribed SOMETHING because the patient expects it. I could go on and on and on.

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    • You R Wrong
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 8:18pm

      Who cares what it covers? That’s not the issue. This is a classic example of an entity of authority giving its subjects something sweet in exchange to have more power and control over them. Wake up!

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    • cosette
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 8:59pm

      @ Bernbart—- My 48 year old son lost his job. When he finally found employment he was denied health coverage from his new employers provider due to a pre existing condition (sleep apnea) at the prevailing rates. He was informed (I saw the letter) that he could pay the additional fee if he wanted the coverage. The amount was 100% more than the rate for the rest of the employees. He cannot afford the insurance. He appealed the decision and lost the appeal. He has no insurance. If this law is upheld he will be FORCED to purchase something he cannot afford, BTW this job pays less than half of what he made at the job he lost. Obamacare sucks. Stop spreading lies. Educate your stupid self!

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    • jlcook
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 9:20pm

      Hey sandra bernhart or bernbart, since your beloved dictator has been in office, pay raises at my place of work were frozen( as of feb. 09) 2 months ago they unfroze them but lowered the pay scale 15% which means I’m overpaid and they are looking for a reason to get rid of me. My health care for a family went from $45 a week to $110 a week, within 2 years for me and my 2 daughters. Gas is back at 4 a gallon, and as I look to find work else where in field that I’ve never had a problem getting a job in my field now I find nothing, and can see the vultures at the door waiting for me to quit, I am stuck, for once in my life. My life in the last 3 and half years has become a nightmare, yet one many would love to have, I’m still lucky to have work. Oh yea my house went under water 2 years ago too, that damn Bush must have done all this, funny though I was doin pretty damn good when he was in. Bernbart you are a useful idiot, a fool, and by all respects a socialist, we are not! GO AWAY! READ THE CONSTITUTION, this HC law is unlawful and destructive. I don’t like talking to misinformed blind idiots, I really don’t like commenting on your crap, but you amuse me with your info. I assume you get your news from The Onion. Actually I think they have more truth than you dilweed,

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    • loveoursoldiers
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 9:43pm

      i haven’t seen any benefit. As a matter of fact, I’m paying more .. big deductibles and 20%co-pays.
      I’m not getting anything free.

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    • gbfreak
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 9:49pm

      So everyone is commanded to pay by the feds or get penalized. Hey Bernbart, when you die, should I pay for your funeral? How about if you just decide to not work, should I pay for your laziness?

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    • jzs
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 10:12pm

      cosette says, “@ Bernbart—- My 48 year old son lost his job. When he finally found employment he was denied health coverage from his new employers provider due to a pre existing condition (sleep apnea) at the prevailing rates… Obama care sucks!”

      Cosette, under ObamaCare, your son could not have been denied coverage for a pre-existing condtion. That’s integral to the law. So he would have insurance through his employer. You’re confused. That’s exactly the kind of problem Obamacare addresses.

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    • RabidPatriot
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 10:57pm

      @BERNBART
      That is all fantastic. Now we have to figure out how to accomplish that without violating the Constitution, adopting socialism, wealth redistribution and any other non-American scams that leftists can dream up. Good luck. The left knows they can’t get the bottom to rise up to be equal, so they spend all their time trying to bring the top down.

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    • Puddle Duck
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 11:36pm

      Lets set aside BumFart’s very weak arguments and consider this: If the nine justices of the court are supposed to rule on cases brought before them based on the merits of the plaintiff vs the defendant and in that capacity set aside personal political beliefs, uphold the letter of the law and the constitution as it has been written then the case brought before the Justices by the states suing the Feds over the mandate should have produced a 9-0 feel to it. The fact that the AG could not provide any real compelling reasons why the law should be upheld should have had even the 4 liberal justices (if they were truly judging by the case merits) a more robust questioning from them. It looks as though the 4 SCOTUS liberals are willing to “make precedent” even though the AG lost the argument on every single point,and lost badly. What it boils down to is this. The POTUS and the Democrats are all for the SCOTUS when they rule in thier favor but when that ruling goes against them the Court and it’s judges are “legislating from the bench” in lock step with the Republicans. What has been lost is the prestige of the court and the role it plays, another necessary step in the Marxist playbook deviously unfolding. The POTUS office has been debased, the Congrees and Senate demonized, the free market system depicted as utterly corrupt and driven by greed, the system as a whole needs rescuing, by of all things, a so called benevolent Federal Gov’t that can only be properly run by democra

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    • Therightsofbilly
      Posted on April 4, 2012 at 12:03am

      @JZSaul,

      Cool, but how ya gonna pay for it?

      http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/lou-dobbs-tonight/index.html#/v/1539292778001/gop-discovers-17t-funding-gap-in-health-care-law/?playlist_id=164630

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    • LameLiberals
      Posted on April 4, 2012 at 12:12am

      Let people buy CATASTROPHIC health insurance across state lines. Catastrophic insurance is used ONLY for LARGE INJURIES and ILLNESSES. If you smoke, race cars, are fat – etc – you pay MORE in premiums because you are a greater risk.

      People should have a large health care savings account (not taxed) to be used for not large injuries like a broken leg or for aspirin or eyeglasses. And, if they are too stupid to save for a health care savings account or feel saver – just buy regular health insurance which covers preventive and catastrophic medical issues IN THEIR OWN NAMES across state lines. If you buy regular health insurance – you don’t need catastrophic insurance.

      To solve the problem of people not paying for their health care because they didn’t have insurance – THEY CAN NEVER – EVER – REMOVE that debt from their credit report and it will always be due until they pay it off. No penalty costs added – just the true cost (not inflated crap) but no skating out of not paying it either.

      If you are an illegal alien – you will be treated for the medical emergency – but you also will be finger printed, photographed, DNA taken and then DEPORTED. NEVER TO BE ALLOWED BACK INTO THE USA. All employers should be forced to use E-Verify so illegals won’t have a way of making a living. The USA will also BILL the country the illgal came from for the cost of their care and if they don’t pay – we will deduct any charity we give that country to pay for it.

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    • Lex et Libertas
      Posted on April 4, 2012 at 12:45am

      In the spirit of the season, and to paraphrase Ben-Hur: Now listen to me, BERNBART. You are a condemned man. They will keep you alive to serve the ship. So row well, and live.

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    • britlynz
      Posted on April 4, 2012 at 1:36am

      I’m not a wealthy man, but my family has always had health insurance. I made it a priority and put it before many other things. At one point, when my employer went bankrupt, I cashed in my 401K to pay for it. In other words, I made health care affordable when others wouldn’t.

      I’m not a wealthy man, but my premiums went up almost 25 percent last year in part to pay for all those goodies for others that you’re so excited about. While there‘s a certain attractiveness to a mandate that forces those who don’t share my priorities to ante up, such a thing is an infringement on another’s God given right to be a fool.

      I guess therein lies the point. Those of your ilk simply need to leave the rest of us alone. Period. Continued infringements could get ugly. Things are getting to the point where a law biding citizen like myself could almost be convinced that we’ve reached an ideological impasse and that an organized armed defense is the only option.

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    • MS-GlenNBC
      Posted on April 4, 2012 at 2:09am

      Stumbles??????

      That is what you call ~ “Intellectual Stammer”

      Intellectual Stammer… i.e. when you are so smart (like Obama) your mouth cannot keep up with your brain.

      No Sh– that is what the Democrats and Media said about his stuttering…. it’s because he is so smart.

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    • Blitzking
      Posted on April 4, 2012 at 3:59am

      Hey bernfahrt if obamacare is so good, out of the several thousand exemptions, 28% have gone to pelosi’s district? You are a silly fool, arent you
      you have a boy crush on this infanticidal marxist lying punk dont you?

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    • libsaredangerous
      Posted on April 4, 2012 at 7:50am

      There is so much more to this 2,700 page taxation and government control bill you are leaving out. For example, the HHS secretary can mandate anything she wants without scrutiny, death panels that ration care and can deny care, price control board to limit payment, etc. in this bill you can pay the fine and call to get insurance while waiting in the emergency room and they have to take you. Private insurance will go out quickly. There are also a slew of new taxes like 3.8% on capital gains among others. I pray for SCOTUS to do the right thing

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    • kat747
      Posted on April 4, 2012 at 6:14pm

      You said “Insurance companies have to pay 80% of premiums on ‘care’.” If that were true the highest premium charged to anyone would NOT be over $150. per MONTH. The insurance companies only pay 10% over the Medicare allowable which is NOT much. Ask anyone that does health insurance receivables. The premiums you pay for health insurance are a joke and the budget for Welfare health care is even more ridiculous…..it is called “when Welfare pays at all”! No wonder that Obama wants all that premium money.

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    • Crazyotto
      Posted on April 4, 2012 at 11:04pm

      First of all you need to try and use spell check… it would help make your rambling more coherent… second rather than taking talking points of the Messiah’s website you should really talk to others on how this will work…I don’t have time to do your homework for you but remember there is no such thing as “free” someone has to pay for it … Women do not pay more for the “same” insurance as men for example in company plans… Did you know that because of this and other factors premiums went up 25-35% … did you know most small business will be forced to pay the penalty rather than pay the mandate… meaning employees will be forced onto the government plan.. Guess how many people actually went without insurance last year excluding those who opted out voluntarily, were temporarily without, in the country illegally? approximately 10-15 million people… who could have been covered by Medicare… Also what part of the bill actually guarantees better healthcare overall?
      Oh that’s right it is not about better healthcare it is about a government expansion into the healthcare industry..

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    • Pacman116
      Posted on April 5, 2012 at 6:31am

      And ????

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    • jaylew
      Posted on April 5, 2012 at 6:04pm

      Your argument is so simplistic and touchy feely that I am afraid to be too harsh in my response so that you are not bruised in the process. Name one single similarly sized civilized country that has socialized or single governmental provider healthcare. Name one country that you think the United States should grow up & turn into? I don’t care which one you name. I’ll stay here in this country & you go move there. This country is already replete with millions of current welfare recipients who when asked are now convinced that their “free health care” is actually their “insurance.” Just exactly how pray tell…..does one become the owner of an insurance policy without having paid a single dime for it? It is THAT silly notion of “renaming” something that was once called public assistance into something that the recipients now take “ownership” of & call their own..it is precisely that kind of mental skewering & torturing of reality that the mega millions of us who despise the notion of unmotivated federal nurses & doctors even taking our temperatures..much less diagnosing disease take deadly issue with. This federal government by original design can do but one thing nearly perfectly & that is break things & kill people or nations that threaten our sanctity. The private sector does literally everything else there is to do..better..cheaper & more safely. You are thinking like a liberal lawyer…two words that ought NEVER be next to each other. I now have a poker face.

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    • Mannamomof4
      Posted on April 5, 2012 at 10:39pm

      So to be able to cover their costs for now and the future, our insurance premiums are MORE than our home mortgage payment and went up so much this last year that my husband actually got a pay CUT! A family of six living on a teacher’s salary is NOT the 1%. Sorry, but you can keep Obama and his CHANGE.

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    • Bearwolf
      Posted on April 6, 2012 at 3:01am

      Tell me what procedures woman are charged more for.

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    • tootsie roll
      Posted on April 6, 2012 at 5:00pm

      bernbart
      This law sucks: My preiums in the last two you have increased WHILE my coverage has DECREASED. Read section page 1244 of HR 3200 Sec. of HHR has the right to suspend your PRIVATE COVER IF SHE THINKS IT DOES NOT MEET HER (GOV) STANDARDS. Do you not think that she might be encroaching on your PERSONAL rights? He is talking about a COMPLETE
      SOCIALISM HEALTH CARE PROGRAM when he talks about Single payer program. That Payer is the Gov. and THEY WILL HAVE COMPLETE CONTROL over which treatment or test you are allowed
      to have. Just look to Europe and Canada as to what has happened, people denied treatment do to costs or their age. People put on long waiting list for test. Remember the Canadian Polictician who came to U.S. for a Heart surgery that he could not get in Canad? You your head not your polotical beliefs. Think what is best for yourself. This health care give more coverage to millions? What kind of coverage and who is getting this coverage. Guam, America Someia, Puerto Rico these people cannot vote in our country so why are you willing to cover them with Health Insurance. Its just not LOGICAL

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    • tootsie roll
      Posted on April 6, 2012 at 5:08pm

      Bernbart
      Obama wants single payer health care. That means total Socialize Medicine. The single payer is the gov. NOw who believes the Gov can manage anything. Meicare denies many medicines and treatments they deem them unneceaary or experitmental. I know I have been denied payment on test for my heart. How about the Canidian Offical who was denied heart surgery and came to U.S. for the operation? Ask your self why if Socialized medicine is so great. How about the young women with a brain tumor who was made to wait 8 months before she could get a MRI.
      European countries who have this kind of health care regularly deny treatment to people. Why not just fix the part of the few who now do not have healthcare. Why ruin it for those who do have. Oh I know
      Obama wants it to be fair for Everyone that means in Code for as Ric Holder said MY PEOPLE.
      OBAMA AND HOLDER ARE RACISTS

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    • SysAdminPgh
      Posted on April 6, 2012 at 10:15pm

      You’re missing a few brain cells! First, dumping millions into Medicaid does what? It doesn’t provide them healthcare…. Right now only about 5% of physicians accept it. Most physicians are limiting new Medicare patients. You might have a card but that won’t help you when sick. Also in this area we have had a bunch of new hospitals all out in the ‘burgs that are PRIVATE. No Medicaid! And No Medicare unless you also have additional insurance. So, since a small area of Florida will be allowed to have these plans after 2014 that means seniors won’t get their care there. So the poor will be forced to get their care in old inner-city hospitals that will be over-crowded and under-staffed. This is exactly why Canada outlawed Private Care. Second, Who is going treat you? Physicians are retiring in record numbers. You going to force them at gunpoint?

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    • BJH
      Posted on April 7, 2012 at 2:04pm

      You mention a few good things that can be put into a new healthcare law, but you don’t mention the hundreds of pieces of horrible garbage included in it. We don’t have to have this gigantic freedom grab to get those few nice things. This bill is not constitutional, are you suggesting that we discard the Constitution? Come on wake up!!!

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    • phil1765
      Posted on April 17, 2012 at 5:00am

      bernbart
      it is the 150,000 things in the bill that have absolutely nothing to do with healthcare that makes this bill smell like the rotten fish that it is. Are there some good things in the bill yes I am sure that out of 2500 pages you could find a handful of things that are positive, but be warned there are probably 2400 pages of that bill that are nothing but a big government power grab, whittling away your freedom to choose. The individual mandate is unconstitutional from the word go, government can’t force anyone to purchase a good or service. The bad thing is all you people crying that we need this don’t realize that if they can compel you to buy this, when will it ever stop? Our government has been overstepping its bounds for years and it needs to be reigned in now. The free market can and will work if government will get out of the way and just regulate from afar.

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    • tennantusa
      Posted on April 22, 2012 at 4:10pm

      Hello“talking points”, even they make no sense. Who you going to work for when “Liar In Chief” is kicked out on his ass?

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    • UrbanFervor
      Posted on April 25, 2012 at 10:00pm

      BERNBART, wrong on most counts. The 1% number is ridicuous, made up out of thiin air, you are showing your OWS bias. How can they add 15% uninsured by making 1% “freeloaders” pay? Free preventative care? Nothing is free, it just hides who is paying for it. No more charging women more than men – great, because I hated that my wife was overpaying for her vasectomy. Everyone has access to affordable insurance – LOL, you have no clue how much more we going to be paying!

      All of these great new “free” benefits – where is the money coming from?

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    • JimLA
      Posted on May 12, 2012 at 9:20pm

      Bernhart,
      Never have I known anyone to be denied health care because of lack of health care insurance. If you know of someone, I would sure like to know who it is.
      But then I live in N.C. and we are just one of those southern states.

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    • lildeb56
      Posted on May 24, 2012 at 2:39pm

      @Bernbart – you lay out a great argument, but fail to recognize that in the end, employers will not pick up the greatly increased tab, sending employees to the government insurance. That is the REAL purpose of this insurance mandate – to ensure Universal Government Insurance. They can’t run the Post Office – how are they going to run YOUR health care? I can tell you that – by denying coverage, euthanasia and abortions to curb insuring new babies that are labeled “diseases” by liberals.

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  • Daveed
    Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:47pm

    I heard his speech on the radio. Was not cogent and it sounded like a shout out to the Supreme Court you better do what I say. If they don’t you can expect the Liberal Communist/Unions to start in demonizing the Supreme Court.

    Plus Obama death Care socialized medicine was not approved by Congress or the American people. It was pushed out with out vetting, with out Congress, no body had to chance to read it and it was pushed through by the obama regime and his Handlers. I don’t know how Sorros does it, with all the loose women he has battling over the goodies he gives them and the lawsuits. By goodies, I don’t mean his —–. That can’t be good. yuk

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:01pm

      I figure with Kaiser Obama this is what is going on behind the scenes;

      He is having the conservative justices pressured with threats, intimidation and outright coersion if necessary to ensure things have gone his way. Failing that, he has a backup via executive order and an ‘national health care emergency’ ready to go that will simply reinstate Obamacare behind the back of Congress yet again.

      This matter is far from done; Obama has to have something else ready, yet this delusional activity of his could yet be one more aspect to emerge of the utter insanity that has a grip upon his mind.

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    • bernbart
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:07pm

      There was NO new socialized medicine created under the Health Car Reform. Except for Medicare a/b and Medicaid all insurance is still bought though private insurance co. People will just get more benefits and better perventative care

       
    • hidden_lion
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:18pm

      Bernbart-
      What about FORCED don’t you understand?
      The government does not have to power to force you to buy anything. If you give them that right, where does it stop? They can then force you to buy a certain brand of car, the can force you to use specific drugs, they can force you to do anything they decide is in your best interest. Health care coverage cost more today than it did before this crap was forced through congress.

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    • dmerwin
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:26pm

      bernbart
      There was also NO tort reform, ability to sell insurance across state lines or ANYTHING else that would have affected cost. A simple solution would have been to give the uninsured the ability to BUY into federal blue cross like government employees. People would have had the OPPORTUNITY to become insured, of course it does cost money. So the real goal is more of a National Health System one payer option where the entire country goes broke. Or there must be rationing.

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    • GravityGuy
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 6:40pm

      Thank God Bernbart… I was worried about my Health Car. I think it came off the Prius line.

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    • SoupSammich
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 9:46pm

      Berny
      Not paying for your health or car insurance. Piss off in a splendid manner you socialist.

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    • Lex et Libertas
      Posted on April 4, 2012 at 1:04am

      @BERNBART – “There was NO new socialized medicine created under the Health Car Reform.” ————–
      Maybe not immediately… But, how long do you suppose private insurance carriers will be able to survive with the expenditures dictated and prices controlled? How much will it cost these private companies to comply with all the unknown, ever changing new regulations?
      And, you haven’t heard your fellow travelers state out-right that is their intention, to completely destroy the private health insurance industry? You haven’t heard Obama state that he is FOR a single-payer system, but it will just take some time to implement?

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  • blackyb
    Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:44pm

    Obama’s expectations and laws of this land do not coinside. He is still community organizing. How did he get through law school? Constitutional Law Twishing school it sounds like. Throw the bum out of office. I want to see those Supreme Court Justices stand up and intrepret those laws as they were meant to be in the Spirit of the Law. This is the law of the land.Those Supreme Court Justices will be the ones to save this country from this lunitic if the law is intrepreted as it should be. Our Constitution can withstand the attacks of lunitics if the law is intrepreted in Truth and the Spirit of law. I pray for those judges to do Gods will for the people of our country. This is a serious time in this country like no other. This country has been wounded with the sword of lies from the damned. May God help us and strengthen us to go forward in Truth. The life of this country depends upon those given the stewardships as U.S. Supreme Court Justices to intrepret the sacred laws of this land. The importance of the responsibilities of these people cannot be overstated. These Justices will stand for Truth or they will go down in history for aiding in the destruction of this country. If they do what is right they will prevent the laws of this land from being usurped by some man who is possibly sitting illegally in the seat as our President.

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    • Oreisha
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 2:25am

      Obama keeps stressing the point that the Supreme Court members are “UNELECTED”, This is a subtle hint to those whon he “APPOINTED” owe him their loyalty, and uphold his plan. Ummmmm??????

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  • undercover
    Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:43pm

    “but it’s precisely because of that extraordinary power that the Court has traditionally exercised significant restraint and deference to our duly-elected legislature, our congress”

    Hello – If the Supreme Court justices offer “restraint and deference” they are not doing their job, which is to interpret the law and the Constitution – period! Obama is trying to make the courts as irrelevant as he has made congress. Hail to the king!

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  • bernbart
    Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:43pm

    Anything said on FOX can be discounted as FOX is just a media outlet for right wing talking point lies, and their audience is pretty dense.

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    • undercover
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:50pm

      Well you must be pretty dense to be here too!

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    • Ksera Sugarmail
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:57pm

      Bernbart,

      How was your visit to Room 101? What‘s O’Brien been up to? Julia says to tell you “hello” and that the scar on her forehead is healing quite nicely.

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    • CatB
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:00pm

      Lol ..

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    • Blackhawk1
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:04pm

      Anything said on NBC,CBS,ABC,CNN,MSNBC can be discounted as they are pretending to be media outlets but are nothing more than outlets for left wing talking points, lies, propaganda, and their audience are a bunch of SHEEPLE.

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    • wesinLR
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:09pm

      fox was not who just got caught doctoring vids to make news fit an agenda.. lol but the libs are to dense to think on that.

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    • 13th Imam
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:29pm

      Well Burned Out
      Current TV and Spitzer Swallow should cover all you need to know about what’s going on. See Ya

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    • TMunson
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:30pm

      Stop before you really embarrass yourself…Gezzz…….

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    • macpappy
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:39pm

      I don’t think you have been watching fox lately. It used to be that the host on Fox would bring out the Conservative points, and then have liberal guest to give the fair and balance mantra some meaning. Here lately the host are giving the liberal talking points, while guest are giving the right talking points.
      I think Soros, made a move back in Glenn’s day that we are now seeing come to fruition.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 6:03pm

      BERNBART…that was probably the most juvenile pile of sh#t I’ve ever had the displeasure of having to endure reading.

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  • jblovesAmerica
    Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:39pm

    SCOTUS-is the last bastion of protecting the Constitution.
    From bad laws and bad people.
    Obama is not pro-constitution-he is for “transforming America”
    Sorry BHO-we like it just like it is-made it 230+ years without many problems till you showed up.

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    • BlackCrow
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:30pm

      And EVERY 5-4 decision is just all the closer we are to losing that Canstitution!

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    • Oreisha
      Posted on April 11, 2012 at 2:56am

      AMEN!!!! Obama has really done a slash and trash job on this country– and this is only the beginning. He has to try and be “NICE” now until after the election— but if he gets elected again– look out!! He will have no “third term” hanging over his head, so he can really complete his dictatorship. Wouldn‘t be surprised if he wouldn’t try to do away with our whole election process, and declare himself “Pres for life”—- like Chavez, Castro, and that nit-wit in Iran, If you opposed him, you would vanish.

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  • bernbart
    Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:38pm

    I doubt very much the SC will repeal the entire bill as to many people are benefiting from it. It they repeal the mandate, which is a very small part of health care reform then the reform it will be funded with taxes, instead of the mandate which called for personal responsibility. In fact liberals did not want the mandate, so it gives them a chance to use this issue to win the 2012 elections and get a single payer system.

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    • Blackhawk1
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:00pm

      Yeah all those freeloading 26 year old children are being able to live off their parents for another couple of years. Other than that everyone’s premiums went up 9% since Obamacare.

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    • Beckofile
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:10pm

      SCOTUS is inhabited by federal employes and the dirty little secret is federal employes love to give merit and rise to anything that grows federal power and size. They will not overturn this because the courts are all corrupted. Just listen to Ginsburg?????? We are in trouble. Don’t worry about if you can buy a gun. Start to worry about how your going to hide it.

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    • dmerwin
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:13pm

      Look BART, it has nothing to do with “benefiting” and everything to do with legal constitutionality. The court are NOT the arbiters of “good intentions”. In fact, what’s that quote? Oh yeah, “The road to hell is paved with good intentions”

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    • doyley64
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:17pm

      9% ??????? Mine went up 30%

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    • cindy g
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:31pm

      Of course, progressives did not want the mandate…They wanted single-payer.

      If only the mandate is ruled unconstitutional, the socialist crowd will be thrilled. In that way, they will cry out for single payer, or as you progressives call it:

      European Socialism!

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    • macpappy
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 4:19pm

      Learn these words, as you will be seeing them abundantly:
      I WILL NOT COMPLY

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 6:36pm

      LOL…“a very small part” BERNBART? The individual mandate is the chief funding mechanism for this monstrosity you idiot. You’re quite creepy BERNBART.

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    • gbfreak
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 9:52pm

      Stop responding to this troll.

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    • Lex et Libertas
      Posted on April 4, 2012 at 1:15am

      If the SCOTUS exercises judicial restraint, then the only decision they could make is to strike down Obamascare in its’ entirety. Once they look at the legislative history and find that a sever-ability clause, at one time existed, but is absent from the final bill signed into law, the clear intent of congress will be undeniable – If any part is found unconstitutional then none of it is to survive.

      (I would really like to know the details of how it came to NOT have a sever-ability clause. Divine Providence? …I love it when a plan comes together!)

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  • TSUNAMI-22
    Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:36pm

    The SCOTUS has the honor of being able to neuter this fraud in one fell swoop. They’ll probably blow it, completely.

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    • HKS
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:56pm

      They all have already been made offers that they can’t refuse. It would take at least 7 down votes to disprove that.

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  • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
    Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:36pm

    The truth is all in one’s perspective. If you carefully look at the facts, weigh all options, and then come to a logical conclusion, most likely you will come to the truth.

    Or, if you are a politician, say whatever you think people want to hear, or whatever will get you reelected, then that is the truth, even if it is a lie.

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    • bernbart
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:49pm

      Problem is the right has politicized the Supreme Court. You used to be able to count on conservative judges to be balanced and make decision based on law, and and not ideology, but not since the radical right took over the republican party. Now the conservative judges on the SC have become judicial activist for right wing politics.

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    • macpappy
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:34pm

      If there are any Judicial activist on the bench they are the liberals. It was Ginsburg, who has sworn to uphold the constitution that says it is not a good example for government today. I would suggest that the traitor Ginsburg take her judicial activation and move to South Africa. It is the Left that is trying to destroy the Constitution, not the right.

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    • dmerwin
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:34pm

      bernbart
      Please read the constitution. The government cannot force anyone to buy anything. In fact, the solicitor general did not, at least in the reportage available, make the case for the commerce clause, as Obama does in this article. He made an argument relating to, then President Washington (1791), prior to the Supreme Court, mandating the arming of a militia. Lest we forget, even the champions of the Obamacare bill did not read it, “We’ll have to pass the bill, to find out what is in it” (snicker, snicker). I bring that up because at one point there was a “severability clause” which would have allowed the rest of the bill to stand.

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    • dmerwin
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:37pm

      Bart, did Barack call you with the talking points this morning?

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    • smokeysmoke
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 10:27pm

      @bernbart…. i like how you are implying that judges just ebb and flow their values at the whim of the republican party…. ahahah moron

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:36pm

    What do you want to bet that Kagen called him Friday after the SCOTUS met and told him Obamacare was toast? Otherwise why come out and start attacking them. If he didn‘t know it’s already shot, you would think he would keep his trap shut.

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    • CatB
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:38pm

      Well making threats and telling lies . would NOT make me change my vote.

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    • marine249
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:42pm

      I would not take that bet on a bet

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:17pm

      I bet it’s 6-3 against and they know there is no possibilty of a reversal! :-) The “Constitutional Law Professor” signed an unconstitutional law! LMFAO!

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    • dmerwin
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:40pm

      Gonzo
      I’m with you “Wang-Dang”. Got you in a stranglehold baby.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 6:09pm

      You’re a snakeskin cowboy Dmerwin!

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  • JustPeachy
    Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:36pm

    See how EASILY this man lies. He’s given it so much practice apparently all his life, it just is second nature to him.

    Guess he has to be good at SOMETHING (besides destroying our country, that is!).

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  • obamasacommie
    Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:34pm

    What a moron. All i can say is were screwed if this man gets reelected.

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  • bernbart
    Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:31pm

    What a line of Blaze bull. Obama gave a very good answer. and he is right. Obama and Democrats were elected in 2008 becausse the public wanted health care reform and they got it. Ironically the Supreme Court is hearing a case on the mandate which was NOT a liberal idea, but based on the republican idea of personal responsibility…if you can afford to buy insurance you should instead of begin a free loader and putting the burden on those who so buy insurance. The Mandate ideas was first suggested during the Clinton administration by the conservative Heritage Foundation, and is sued successfully in MA. The Democrats wanted a single payers system, but negotiated with republican during the healht care debate and settled on the republican idea of the mandate.

    Then the radical right Tea party started their lies that Health Care Reform, that it was a government take over which it is not. Al insurance except Medicare and Medicaid is still private and you still choose your own doctors.

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    • theninthplanet
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:34pm

      trololol

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    • CatB
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:37pm

      Requiring you to buy a product .. does not guarantee any type of service .. I could say EVERYONE in the U.S. has “insurance” tomorrow .. but Health CARE is another thing. People will be denied treatment under Obamacare .. just like every other socialist country in the world. Just because you pay .. doesn’t mean you will receive.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-dQfb8WQvo

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    • marine249
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:40pm

      and which spaceship did you come in on

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    • NeverSurrender
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:45pm

      In the end you WILL NOT choose your own doctor. Employer provided health care is a benefit in order for the company to attract talented employees. If everyone has health care then it is no longer a benefit and employers will drop it in order to pay the less expensive penalty. The government will end up supplying helth care for EVERYONE and no good doctor will want to be a part of what will essentially be Medicare. Stop lying to everyone telling them they can keep their doctor. If they have a good doctor then he will not be part of a medicare type system that pays them peanuts.

      And just for your record, even if the republicans had brought up this draconnian mandate I would still be against it. There is noting personally responsible about the government forcing you to enter into a contract with another person/company just because you were born.

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    • MrMark
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:47pm

      Uhhh…. no.

      Obama was elected in 2008 because McCaine wasn’t persuasive enough to bring out the conservative vote. Conservatives are generally disgusted with the electoral process because of the thick layer of corruption and blatant deceit it carries, and they require a truly stimulating candidate they can believe in to motivate them to get their hands dirty in the political process. (This isn’t good, but it’s the way it works. It is what it is.) Combine that with the full-on disinformation campaign waged by the media on behalf of their candidate, which further motivated those who actually believed the campaign lies, and you have the Obama presidency.

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    • JAMACAMECRAZYMAN
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:59pm

      Why can’t liberals JUST OPEN THEIR EYES instead of their idiotic mouths and see what the final result is from socialism (medicine, welfare, education etc.) elsewhere. FAILURE PERIOD.

      Spend more time learning and less time looking stupid.

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    • Grannie4news
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:08pm

      @BERNBART: Good try! Socialized health care is NOT a Republican idea. You speak of this law making everyone buy insurance of their own. How naive do you have to be to think that everyone in America has the money to afford health care. They don’t, so guess what, all of those people will still be paid by the taxpayers, only now the cost will go up, because once they get free healthcare, they will be running to the doctor for every little sniffle, just like so many that do have insurance do now and then the costs will rise even higher. This thing about Insurance companies having to take new people with already existing conditon, instead of the one year or whatever conditions that now apply, will put the private insurance companies out of business (they are not non-profit, you realize don’t you?) and then comes the full government takeover. I am sorry to say this but in my opinion ( and I will be polite with my choice of words) you are at the very least naive.

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    • TMunson
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:33pm

      No moron, we wanted the economy fixed….idiot

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    • llotus
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:33pm

      bernbart………..BB! shut up. Please. Lotus.

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    • OniKaze
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:36pm

      Wow Bernbart, how much illegal drugs do you do on a daily basis, so that you are so wasted 24/7 that you actually believe the horrible smelling substance that emits from your mind and mouth on a minute to minute basis?

      I can’t imagine anyone (whose sober) would believe a word that comes out of Obummer’s mouth unless they are under the age of 14 and still believe the world is full of sunshine, lolipops and rainbows…

      Obama-care IS (whether the SCOTUS says so or not) UN-constitutional. Sure, there may be some nice things hidden in it somewhere (which only god must know, since no-one has read the entire thing) but all of the big selling points are garbage.

      Kids don’t need to be on their parents insurance until they are 26… I was booted off of my parents insurance at the age of 20 when I got my Bachelors degree and graduated college… And I have been quite alright without it…. I am sure some of the youth from today will be okay as well, as long as they can get mommies breast out of their mouth long enough to grow up…

      You and your Fuhrer-and-Chief, are lacking something in the critical thinking department, and as long as people like you and the Fuhrer exist only to push forward your agenda, then the country will keep sliding down this path of destruction.

      The government DOES NOT need to do things the individual can do for themselves… BOTTOM LINE.

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    • BlackCrow
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:36pm

      Osama Obama was elected because the Communist party and their public relations wing had spent 8 years demonizing George Bush and the Republicans!

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    • macpappy
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:50pm

      How does it feel to spit out the lefts talking points only to be met with cool, calm, and stark logic from just everyday folks on the blaze. See these guys are not trained trolls as you seem to be, no; just regular folks that can read and chose to do so.
      Your liberal line will die a idiots death every time you try that crap here. Logic does not fit into your line of thought. It can’t or you would just quit, and go home.

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 4:10pm

      BERNBART, You‘ve been a member of Huffington Post since July ’08, so do us all a favor and head back over to where you and your peers hang out daily and tell yourselves such lies. We are not falling for it here. I know, you’ve also been a member here for a couple of years too, but lucky for us you just come and troll for a while then disappear for quite some time. Much to our relief.

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    • GravityGuy
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 6:44pm

      Hey Bernbart, what happened in 2010? Get ready for round two in 2012.

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:31pm

    .
    I still don’t know what the Hell, Ole Purple LIps just said, he’s as lost as a re tard in a room full of bouncing balls…….

    But he’s gonna get re-elected by the “Free Lunch Crowd”…………..

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  • BeingThere
    Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:31pm

    Lyin’ motherfraker!!!

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  • LestWeForget
    Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:27pm

    Great! He set himself a beautiful trap by getting himself on record for not having a back up plan. This is so good for the GOP if they will think to use it! The left is already criticizing the GOP for not having a plan, and using that as their fall-back plan of attack for the campaign. They want to say “hey, we tried, but an activist court overturned it. You have to get us back in power so that we can try again because the GOP doesn’t have a plan.”

    Now that Obama has said “we have no back up plan,” there goes that argument against the GOP for not having one! Too sweet.

    In fact, the GOP does have a plan, which includes Tort Reform, opening up the insurance markets to cross state lines, fixing the pre-existing conditions problems, and as for federal spending, reducing fraud, waste and abuse. More than anything, they must cut the red tape, reduce the regulations, reign in the lobbyists (who are paid handily, thus driving up our insurance rates), and promote wellness programs to prevent illness and disease (like diabetes and other conditions that are created or worsened by irresponsible lifestyle choices. We should not all have to pay for people to eat, drink, laze, and smoke themselves into sickness. Personal responsibility.)

    Finally, we MUST reveal who wrote the 2000 page health care plan in the first place. Very very telling. GOP get on this. You have to hammer this every chance you get. Reveal the radical origins of such bills.

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    • Shasta
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:40pm

      The problem is, when the republicans has both houses and the white house, they did very little on health care. The Prescription Drug Plan is all that I can think of.

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    • LestWeForget
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:57pm

      Too true. I hope the TEA parties have awakened them and returned some limited government principles. I just know socialized medicine is not the answer, and too much federal regulation and control will lead to that. We need some fresh folks in there, not yet tainted by lobbies – including trial lawyers – and other DC ills. Maybe it’s a simplistic dream. Every time states try tort reform (Texas) it is met with reductions in cost and improvement in care. Then you have Illinois with terrible malpractice laws (unions and trial lawyers have alot of power) and good doctors left in droves, only hurting patients and driving up costs. I don’t think we need a comprehensive controlling bill, we just need some common sense principles and then let the free markets actually operate. What can we do to have them hear us?

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    • dmerwin
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:45pm

      The problem for the democrats relating to a plan is that they perfunctorily dismissed Republican ideas of opening the insurance industry across the country and tort reform. So, the Republicans CAN rightly say, we had a plan all along, which you were not willing to discuss. So after the failure of the Obama bill. They can pass the Republican ideas. If Bart really has his panties wadded up over the people “freeloading” we could include some language to attach their possessions, tax returns or garnish wages to pay for their medical bills. If they are not here legally, they can be deported.

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  • T-2
    Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:27pm

    he’s soo dreamy and now i want to wake up from this nightmare

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    • AmazingGrace8
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:40pm

      The water is getting too deep for me. I am getting out of the pool. Good luck America.
      God Bless America!

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  • CatB
    Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:25pm

    Stumbling over LIES … SCOTUS HAS overturned UNCONSTITUTIOAL “laws” .. and btw .. he also says that people are being “affected” by Obamacare .. I was .. MY PREMIUM JUST WENT UP AGAIN!

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    • godlovinmom
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:31pm

      I believe that is the effect he was looking for..we pay more so others can have it free…go figure.

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    • CatB
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:40pm

      But .. don’t forget . because everyone has to pay .. we were told BY OBAMA premiums would go down .. another LIE!

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  • Patriot
    Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:24pm

    Is this the moment when this guy realizes he’s not the king of America, I think so. Unfortunately when a king’s power is challenged, some kings are know to do nasty things. I expect nasty things.

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    • BehindTheMouth
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:02pm

      I bet some type of “national” emergency emerges before November and he gets even worse. He’ll declare marshall law and anyone who does not agree with him will be taken away for re-education.

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  • godlovinmom
    Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:22pm

    I was watching this…this morning…what no teleprompter today Mr. President???

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    • marine249
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:36pm

      and he talked like he had a mind made of cows—
      and mouth full of mules—

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    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 4:19pm

      MARINE249, apt description of his stutter bumbling around at the mic.

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    • SoupSammich
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 9:49pm

      Looked and sounded like a thug called out in church to me. The audacity of someone asking his thugginess questions.

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  • jakartaman
    Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:21pm

    Except for the 4 liberal justices all 4 conservative and Breyer will say it is unconstitutional for the very obvious reasons – ie what next forced broccoli!
    This was a forced Democratic party only passed legislation in the backrooms at night.
    It was and is a way over -reach and must be shot down
    Four and out this November
    Move over Jimmy!

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  • mayihelpyou
    Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:21pm

    All he had to say was, “unconstitutional, but I tried to usurp everything the Constitution stands for.”

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  • Blackhawk1
    Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:18pm

    Someone should tell Obama that he along with no one else can FORCE people to buy anything in this country. It’s not unprecedented because the Scotus overturns unconstitutional laws passed by Congress all the time.

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    • CatB
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:26pm

      Exaactly .. and Obama LIES daily!

      OMG 2012!

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  • Commander and Thief
    Posted on April 3, 2012 at 2:13pm

    Our Commander and Thief

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    • possom
      Posted on April 3, 2012 at 3:53pm

      We‘ve started calling all politician’s “fiscal thieve’s”

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