Obama to Congress: You WILL Increase Debt Limit
- Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:20pm by
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CHICAGO (AP) — President Barack Obama confidently predicted Friday that a divided Congress would raise the nation’s borrowing limit to cover the staggering federal debt rather than risk triggering a worldwide recession, but he conceded for the first time he would have to offer more spending cuts to Republicans to get a deal.
Pushed to the brink, Obama said, the two parties would find “a smart compromise.”
In an interview with The Associated Press, Obama also took pains to promote his long-term plan to cuts trillions of dollars from federal deficits as a fairer, more compassionate alternative to a Republican plan that surged to party-line passage Friday afternoon in the House.
And Obama said in his most forceful terms yet that he had the economic record to win re-election after he had “been able to yank this economy” out of recession.
One week after the near government shutdown – Obama signed the bill finalizing that legislation after returning to the White House – the rejuvenated president answered questions in his hometown following an evening of fundraising for his re-election bid and a rare night in his own bed.
On America’s wars, he said that a significant number of troops would begin coming home from Afghanistan in July despite expectations that the withdrawal could be modest. He said the U.S. would not expand its military role to end a bloody stalemate in Libya but insisted that Moammar Gadhafi would, in time, be forced from power.
While the House approved the multitrillion-dollar deficit-cuts measure, it was Obama’s comments on the debt limit – an issue the White House has labored to keep separate from yearly red ink totals – that altered the debate of the day.
The government is nearing its borrowing limit of $14.3 trillion and risks going into a crippling default. Seizing on public frustration about spending, House Republicans say they won’t lift the debt cap without more cuts.
Obama told the AP without doubt: “We will raise the debt limit. We always have. We will do it again.”
He warned that anything less would undermine the solvency of the government, roil financial markets and potentially “plunge the world economy back into a recession.” Yet when pressed on how the stalemate with House Speaker John Boehner would end, Obama said: “I think he‘s absolutely right that it’s not going to happen without some spending cuts.”
The president spoke in the context of his goal that Democratic and Republican lawmakers can agree on a framework for long-term deficit reduction within the next couple of months. That falls within about the same time frame that Congress will need to vote to lift the debt ceiling. The administration says the latest Congress could act on that is by early July.
When asked if he thought the perilous stakes alone would cause Republicans to give in, Obama said: “Well, no, I don’t expect the Republicans to give in and I get 100 percent of my way, and I don‘t expect that we’re going to give 100 percent of what the Republicans want. I think what we want to do is make sure that we have a smart compromise that is serious.”
A Boehner spokesman, Brendan Buck, welcomed Obama’s willingness to connect the debt limit to broader reductions in spending, saying that is what the American people want. “It’s encouraging he may now be getting that message,” Buck said.
Later, Obama spokesman Jay Carney sought to pull back a bit on the president’s remarks. Carney said Obama was acknowledging that more deficit cuts are needed but insists the debt ceiling vote cannot be contingent on upcoming negotiations.
In the 25-minute interview, Obama underlined his vision and re-election campaign message about the country’s path. He said he shares the Republicans’ desire for fiscal restraint but stands alone in protecting the social compacts and priorities of a nation. Elaborating on his description of a Republican “pessimistic vision,” he said: “It’s one that says that America can no longer do some of the big things that made us great, that made us the envy of the world.”
On Afghanistan, where the United States has 100,000 troops, Obama offered a somewhat aggressive assessment of the scope of the troop withdrawal that is to begin as he promised in July. The goal is to transfer responsibility to Afghan forces.
Without estimating a number of U.S. troops who will return, Obama said, “I’m confident that the withdrawal will be significant. People will say this is a real process of transition; this is not just a token gesture.”
The president‘s stance on Libya comes as Gadhafi’s troops have relentlessly attacked rebel positions as part of a deadlocked internal war sparked two months ago. The international community intervened with airstrikes a month ago, but the U.S. recently stepped back into a support role and questions abound about the mission’s success.
“I’m actually very impressed with the performance of NATO so far,” Obama said in rejecting any increased U.S. role.
The president, himself, described the conflict as a stalemate on the ground but said Gadhafi is being “squeezed.”
“He’s running out of money. He is running out of supplies,” Obama said. “The noose is tightening, and he is becoming more and more isolated. And my expectation is, is that if we continue to apply that pressure and continue to protect civilians, which NATO is doing very capably, then I think over the long term, Gadhafi will go and we will be successful.”
On terrorism, the president declined to guarantee that the Guantanamo Bay prison camp for terrorist suspects would close during his presidency. He had once promised to shut the military-run facility in Cuba within a year of taking over the job.
He conceded he does not have the support of Congress on that issue and has not been able to overcome fears of bringing some detainees into the United States for trial. “It’s my job to give people some assurance that we can handle this effectively, and obviously I haven’t been able to make the case right now,” he said. “That doesn’t mean I stop making the case.”
To win a second term, Obama must convince a nation still saddled with high joblessness and a fragile economic recovery that he has overseen a period of progress – and that more is on the way. Obama said he’s got a record he can sell: Wall Street regulation, a health care insurance overhaul and efforts to make college more affordable.
“I think I’m going to be able to make an effective case,” he said. The president said that it has been under his watch that the country went from a staggering recession into steady progress and that “I have been able to yank this economy out of that hole and get it back on a track to growth.”
The 2012 presidential race is the first in which the tea party coalition, which denounces the growth of government and assails much of the Obama presidency, will play a major role. The president took an upbeat role of such a movement: “Anytime the American people are actively engaged in the political process, it’s good.”
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TOPOFTHEGAME
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 10:06pmI’VE HAD IT WITH MAN/CHILD….. throwing his little verbal fit….. Check out “THE ONE’S” Selective Service Registration Form…. Seems to have been done on a MAY 2007 form…………. http://www.scribd.com/doc/52790910/selective-service-registration-letter
Report Post »dawg of gawd
Posted on April 16, 2011 at 6:04pmHe loves it when you’re pissed, because you sound, well, just like you sound now – angry, butter, unhinged, irrational, bigoted, resentful, racist, ignorant, self-obsessed, aaaaand, wait for it . . . irrelevant.
well done!
Report Post »Catfish
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 10:03pmI dont see why the democrats caint see this black muslim man for what he is , why would they vote for this fatherless son, I HOPE TRUMP STAYS ON THE BIRTHER THING AND PROVES THAT HE IS NOT AN AMERICAN, then the bills he has signed wont be valid. I hope every state passes a law that a person has to be a citizen to be on the ballot in there state, then he will have to show it or not be on the ballot , LETS pray they will
Report Post »kspatriot
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 10:03pmAttach the repeal of Obamacare to raising the debt ceiling, PERIOD! The Republicans ALL ran on repealing Obamacare, nows their chance to make it happen. They need to ALL agree to vote NO unless the repeal is part of the deal! They will NEVER have this much leverage again. DON’T BLOW IT REPUBLICANS!!!
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 16, 2011 at 12:56amThe House did vote to repeal ObamaCare, didn’t they?
Report Post »dawg of gawd
Posted on April 16, 2011 at 6:05pmKeep holding onto that charade, showtime, it’w all you got going for you . . . Maybe you can get Boehner to dress up in pantaloons and a powdered wig. At least that way you’l feel patriotic instead of feeling inept and impotent.
Report Post »galtlogic
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 10:00pmLet it come to a head NOW! This has become like the argument that a couple avoids for years because they both know things are gonna be ugly once the truth hits the fan. It HAS to get worse and then we can clear the air before it can get better. I want to go back to being concerned with the simple things. Nothing can happen until we get our heads out of our asses and admit we have major problems.
Report Post »Catfish
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:55pmI hope the republicans will not allow 1 penny debt ceiling raise, if they fold, then 2012 let every one of them go, we have got to get people up there that will stop this mess
Report Post »Professional Infidel
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:54pmEgotistical Dumbo
Report Post »Chancre Sore
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:53pmWhat’s the point of having a debt ceiling if you’re just going to raise it every time you reach it? Why not just get rid of it altogether and we won’t have to worry about it anymore?
Report Post »teachermitch32
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 10:57pmThank you! I still think it is needed, but you are right, if it is not honored what good is it. Things are only honored by honorable persons. Otherwise it is no honor at all.
Report Post »momprayn
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:53pmThink Rush said he agrees with this assessment unfortunately. He thinks the old elitist leadership Repubs. have already decided they don’t want this to be the “big fight” that they said it would be…..they’ll end up raising it & get some concessions that really aren’t concessions, smoke & mirrors like last time. They’ll say the biggest deal is the 2012 election, which of course it is, but there’ll be huge disagreements with the Tea Party newbies once again – and I‘m afraid we won’t get too close to what we wanted. But didn’t really expect to — think it is true we won’t be able to do that until we win both the Senate and Presidency. So get ready. We all need to pray that the Tea Party types take over the Repub. party.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:57pmThey better fight .. or we wil take over the R party .. I have already infiltrated my local R women’s group …TEA people are working all over the country .. they can fight or they will be replaced!
Report Post »miles from nowhere
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:50pmThey should impeach Obama and move on with lowering the debt and spending.
Report Post »Johnny1943
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:48pmBoehner needs to play a better poker hand this time or risk losing support for his speakers job. The dems are giggling to them selves because the worthless CBO says the real cut amounts to $352 million. If Boehner did get hoodwinked, he better play a better game of hardball this time. Reid, Pelosi, and their Prez still don’t know this country sent them a message during the mid terms. I know Barry said he got the message after the election, but we need to pound it into his scarred head before the debt vote.
Report Post »swigs
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:47pmRecessions come and go whats the big deal? He is in campaign mode and instead of blaming his own democratic party for the massive spending now he ‘s looking to World wide economic doom and gloom to save his failed policies.
Balance the budget and set an example for the rest of the world.
Report Post »Makes me wonder if he ever went to school…damn commie.
predator24
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:46pmThis GOP is the same GOP who let Clinton go in the 90′s and the same GOP who forced Bush to not fight back against the smears by Pelosi and Reid. They are now dismantling the Tea Party with Boehner giving away the store. The GOP haven’t had an easier softball than the CR when Obama said that he was not going to fund our troops engaged in THREE wars but Boehner gave that one away. The Debt limit is a weaker fight, media exposure wise, but can bring Obama to a screeching halt. Everyone knows that Boehner will AGAIN go along to get along. He’s from the “Old Guard”, a real “Country Club” Republican who comes from teh same school as John McCain and Bob Dole.
The United States of America is as dead as it’s currency.
Report Post »santramir
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:39pmpawn the pawn in the name of israeli bankers
Report Post »FansLogonDOTcom
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:36pmThis SOB knows that he has Boehner & McConnell in the palm of his hand. Not good. People, please stay vigilant and involved. These ****** think they have the country by the balls. Not.
Report Post »greyfoxx135
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:36pmThe Republicans caved when it came down to any significant spending cuts. We need to draw a line in the sand and tell the Dems enough. Failing to raise the debt ceiling will not cause any serious problems. It simply means we can’t continue to spend more money than we have. OH MY…will will actually have to make some decisions as to where our money is going…
Report Post »DAG
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:36pmDAG to Obama, “You will NOT increase the debt limit!”
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 10:48pmBetterDays to Obama GTFO of my House punk!
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 16, 2011 at 12:42amBuckshot to Obama ~ Don’t piss off my mama.
Report Post »She might bite you before I can tear your ankle up!
eat-more-bacon-USA
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:35pmObama is America’s greatest enemy.
Report Post »RightPolitically
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:35pmOf course, the Republicans don’t have the BALLS, but they need to present an ULTIMATUM to The White House: NO RAISE of the debt ceiling without an agreement to pass a balanced budget amendment. BUT THEY WON’T!
Report Post »LadyIzShy
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:35pmim sure they will raise it however i do not think they should.. They need to put an END to this spending money they do not have. we just found out what a liar he is they will NEVER be able to trust him again. so why should they play the game? they should not . I am SOOOOOO pissed over his lying about the czars that i can litterally see red..i guess my blood pressure is up..
Report Post »triquad
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:34pmI cannot beleive this idiot. He presumes to think that he has the economic record to win re-election in 2012.
Report Post »I would not be banking on that Obumdo.The fact is your economic record is a travesty at best. Your deliberate atempts to undermine our economy are not going to be allowed.We will beat your sorry but in 2012 clown.Put that in your book.
FLyoverman
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:33pmObama is right. The GOP will buckle. He has correctly assessed his opponent.
Report Post »Uncurable wound
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:39pmSpot on
Report Post »StrangernFiction
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 10:44pmYup
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 10:47pmThe socialist’s lick his boots, the RINOs lick his peanuts, and the conservatives stand on principle.
Report Post »Same result different day, the Great frog of Lucifer defrauds on, but his time is ever so short and his end is eternal damnation.
Deda1
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:32pmPresident JugHead
Report Post »Maximus_Delta
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:30pmGoofy presidente’
Report Post »joe conservative
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:24pmFunny how things have changed now that the shoe is on the other foot. This guy looks like a total moron on this issue. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeIW4yJMYFI This video shows what a true hypocrite this loser is. I hope the GOP sticks it to him this time.
Report Post »WHIITETEAPARTY
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:36pmSad state of politics we live in where are president has to demand that republicans dont starve the citizens
Report Post »thermonator
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:45pmLOL…
Yea and and just yesterday he saved 10,000 grandmas and grandpas from having to eat dog food.
Report Post »Too funny….
sWampy
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:51pmSad that a liberal among the worlds smartest people can’t write a sentence 3rd graders could have 50 years ago before the liberals great society destroyed our nation.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:52pmWTP ..
LOL .. roll out the starving children and granny and gramps to boot .. We the People aren’t buying it!
Report Post »oldoldtimer
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:55pmTherm whats wrong with dog food? i serve it as pate and my guests rave about it. I just tell them it is an old family recipe, ALPO.
Report Post »Nobamazone
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 10:00pmhey white, do they seriously REALLY pay you enough to be such an idiot? seriously? are you this big of a fool in real life too or just because you are being paid enough to be so stupid on here? show me ANY research or statistics that show any America’s are dying of starvation, you are such a fool, I work with the poor, it is my job and I am proud of it! our government is NOT helping the poor people you stupid a$$, these programs make administrators rich, they do not get the poor people in any better position to ever get out of it, they make it worse, much much worse, and it is the bleeding heart liberals who are the worst!
Report Post »from reading your MANY ridiculously stupid posts on such a regular basis I can only conclude that you THIS is you job and I pray that you are not RELLY this blind and stupid, for you and the momma who raised you, God help her!
teachermitch32
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 10:00pm@WHIITETEAPARTY,
What??????
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 10:18pm@oldoldtimer
Report Post »Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:55pm
Therm whats wrong with dog food? i serve it as pate and my guests rave about it. I just tell them it is an old family recipe, ALPO.
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Oh, my goodness! You haven‘t tried Shep’s chicken and rice dog food at ALDI’s? It’s GREAT!
RepubliCorp
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 10:27pm@ WhiteDummy HB 2177, sponsored by Rep. Carl Seel, R-Phoenix, would require presidential and vice presidential candidates to provide the Arizona secretary of state with documents proving they are natural-born citizens. What will the Charlatan do?
Report Post »Robert-CA
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 10:53pm@ WTP
The only people that will starve will be the future generation if we keep spending like nuts , enough already with your lies .
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 16, 2011 at 12:17am@WHIITETEAPARTY
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:36pm
Sad state of politics we live in where are president has to demand that republicans dont starve the citizens
Oh, WTP, cut the crap out, would you? It’s getting a bit stale.
Report Post »tifosa
Posted on April 16, 2011 at 9:04amThe facts jack: Credit to the R‘s and D’s in the 1990′s, we’d gone from a budget deficit to surplus by y2k, on target to being totally debt-free & all set for baby-boomers retirem’ts. Then came Bush era: the Medicare drug program, 2 wars, and his famous $trillion-tax cuts for the millionaire/billionaires (we’ll need to borrow an avg of $500B/yr for next years to pay for that, you ok with that?) btw, that’s NOT EVEN mentioning the ECONOMIC COLLAPSE of 2008! Not everything‘s been the way I’d choose under Obama, but you can’t argue this: http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/privatejobs_mar11.jpg
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on April 16, 2011 at 10:28am@ white,You‘re just another typical progressive moron who can’t think for themselves until you’re told what to think,and then it‘s a chore I’m sure.
Report Post »Jimbo49
Posted on April 17, 2011 at 11:18pmWTP – I‘m amazed you’d think it was the government‘s job to put food on any but the most needy’s table. A job, paycheck, and trip to the store should cover most of us. Part of our problem is the 49% on some form of food assistance. That needs to stop
Report Post »TruthTalker
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:23pmThey better tell him to go stuff it.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:34pmSadly, the Marxist is correct.
If only we had a House full of conservatives that had a set, this joker would have be relegated to side-show material. Instead, we’ve got candy asses afraid of their own shadows.
Report Post »Jediusetheforce
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:44pmSo whats the Deal with Obama Really???
VERY QUIETLY OBAMA’S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT
AP – WASHINGTON D.C. –
In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama’s qualifications for the presidency, the group “Americans for Freedom of Information” has Released copies of President Obama’s college transcripts from Occidental College … Released today, the transcript school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.
This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama’s detractors have been seeking. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim. The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obama’s legitimacy and qualification to serve as President article titled, “Obama Eligibility Questioned,” leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama’s first official visit to the U.K. In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups, Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama’s legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey . This lawsuit claims Obama’s dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president.. Donofrio‘s case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama’s citizenship or qualification to serve as president.
Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama’s campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. Attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the matter…
LET OTHER FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS, THE MEDIA WON’T !
Subject: RE: Issue of Passport?
While I’ve little interest in getting in the middle of the Obama birth issue, Paul Hollrah over at FSM did so yesterday and believes the issue can be resolved by Obama answering one simple question: What passport did he use when he was shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi ?
So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later?
And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi , what passport was he offering when he passed through Customs and Immigration?
The American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions, they must have answers. It makes the debate over Obama’s citizenship a rather short and simple one.
Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?
A : Yes, by his own admission.
Q: What passport did he travel under?
A: There are only three possibilities.
1) He traveled with a U.S. … Passport,
2) He traveled with a British passport, or
3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.
Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?
A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. .. State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.
Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport.
If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims.. And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967.
Whatever the truth of the matter, the American people need to know how he managed to become a “natural born” American citizen between 1981 and 2008.
Given the destructive nature of his plans for America, as illustrated by his speech before Congress and the disastrous spending plan he has presented to Congress, the sooner we learn the truth of all this, the better.
If you Don’t care that Your President is not a natural born Citizen and in Violation of the Constitution, then Deletethis, and then lower your American Flag to half-staff, because the U.S. Constitution is already on life-support, and won’t survive much longer.
If you do care then Forward this to as many patriotic Americans as you can, because our country is being looted and ransacked!
sWampy
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:48pmUs defaulting wouldn’t cause a world wide recession any deeper than the depression that the liberals put the world into when they crashed the economy in 2008.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:51pm@TRUTHTALKER …
You speak the TRUTH! …
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 10:07pmI will fight raising the debt ceiling to my last breath! I will knock on door to door in search of a replacement for any Georgia U.S. Senator who votes FOR it. I will do the same if my congressional representative votes for it.
If the debt ceiling is raised AGAIN, they will only spend to that ceiling. What needs to be done is fire the 800,000-plus federal employees that have been hired since Obama/Soetoro usurped the office of POTUS, cut all spending that has been passed but not spent, and pass Paul Ryan’s legislation AS IS!
I am tired of listening to Socialist BS. We want prosperity, not enslavement to government. This is right on topic:
Report Post »http://americasright.com/?p=7290 “Modern Day Slavery, 150 Years Later.”
Showtime
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 10:13pm@Jediusetheforce
Report Post »Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:44pm
So whats the Deal with Obama Really???
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Honey, it’s a hoax. I fell for it last year. It was an April Fool’s joke in 2009, too, I think. However, there has come to my inbox something about a trial or hearing on May 2. I’ll see what I can find.
Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 10:14pmWhich will be worse, another recession or the eventual dissolution of our country to a UN loving marxist progressive dictator.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 10:16pmThis is like him demanding they breath, and then saying, see they did what I told them to. We will raise the dept ceiling, but there needs to be cuts with it.
Report Post »The boy king needs to learn he must not act childish, hence he be viewed as a child.
Nervous Investor
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 10:20pmJediusetheforce – quite an analysis. The logic is faulty however. I think that the following might be more accurate.
1. Children born outside of the US to US citizens (Obama’s mother) need to make up their mind by the time they are 18 whether to adopt their parent’s US citizenship or the citizenship of the country of their birth or of their other parent who might not be a US citizen (in this case Obama’s father who was a Kenyan).
Report Post »2. Just because Obama pater was (English Colonial) Kenyan and could pass his Kenyan citizenship on to his son does not mean that Obama fils was born in Kenya – he may have been born anywhere on the globe and still be deemed to be Kenyan.
3. As a child Obama was taken to Indonesia by his mother and step father (Soetero). Obama was apparently enrolled in school in Indonesia as an Indonesian whose religion is Islam (an image of a purported school enrollment document has traveled the internet over the last few years).
4. What age was Obama when he enrolled in Occidental College and received financial aid as a foreign national? Was he already past 18? If so he clearly had renounced his right to US citizenship by failing to formerly adopt it at the age of 18 or was being sly with the truth (of his multiple citizenships) to access the financial assistance as a foreigner.
5 A person can legally have citizenship in many countries simultaneously. Just because that person uses one passport and not another does not invalidate the other citizenships.
6 My key question always come back to … Why does Obama not simply release his Long Form Birth Certificate or authorize the State of Hawaii to do so? This is backed up by the question …. Why spend so much money and aggravation on a matter that is so simple to resolve?
Showtime
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 10:23pm@Blazers ~
@JediUseTheForce ~
Good news! I found it!
Report Post »http://usjf.net/
Talks about the 9th Circuit going to hear the case.
bullcrapbuster
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 10:23pmYep, he has our spineless GOP controlled congress figured out
Report Post »jackrorabbit
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 10:24pmI bet that the offer will be splendid, but the results will be about like the last offer. 1% of the real deal.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 10:30pmJediusetheforce Fake
Report Post »snidley-whiplash
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 10:33pmThe answer is no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
What Part of NO don’t you UNDERSTAND!
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 10:41pm@Showtime
Hey and hello,
Got a screaming headache, ugh!
Thanks for the ninth circuit info, let’s pray it goes through with victory, but concerned as the nigh circuit is a flaming liberal theft mill and not a court.
Report Post »PATTY HENRY
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 11:18pmThe transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.
SEE????!!!! I told you guys I’d seen this transcript…clearly Obama was applying as a foreign student. There’s also the Video tape of him answering a report from the floor of the Illinois Senate saying that “no, I’m not eligible to be President ” probably done about 1997 or 8 maybe 1999. It was all over YOU TUBE.
Speaking for myself, I have a lot better things to think about and do than get revved up on the Birther thing…but the SOB is not legal and nothing he does is LEGAL…and he’s tearing apart the country that I LOVE with all my heart, next to GOD and my Family…. I want him stopped.
ALSO: SOMEONE please!!! FIND OUT why he and Michelle gave up their Law licenses in the State of Il. about the time of the REZKO trial…who gives up their law licenses? I have many attorneys in my family and passing the bar is quite the task…none of them would give up their licenses —- what happened?
ALSO ALSO: ON the “I just ran into Bill Ayers in my neighborhood” BS!!! Now we know that AYERS wrote Obama’s first book “Dreams of My Father” and…and…and… his wife and Michelle Obama worked together in the SAME law firm in CHICAGO (known for it’s liberalism) since 1988 when Michelle got out of law school and together through the time that Obama came to work AT THE SAME LAW FIRM in 90 or 91. COME ON…. just how dumb do they thinki we are?
SO Obama knew AYERS…plotted with AYERS …AYERS wrote his book for him. Then something very illegal happened to both Obamas and they were forced to give up their Licenses to Practice Law… I think it was MORE than Michelle’s “patient dumping” with Axelrod ….it had to do with REZKO….isn’t there some journalist out there who wants a Pulitzer?
Report Post »SavingtheRepublic.com
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 11:34pm^______^______^
The republicants in the House better man/woman up and not do what he wants. To increase the debt ceiling is like someone who is technically bankrupt, hasnt filed yet, asking for more credit. In this example they only bring home $1000/mo but their expenses are $2500+ a month where they end up charging their bills to their credit cards. They go to the same creditors they are charging their bills and ask for an increase in their credit line. This is insane the country has no money we are BROKE! Do not listen to pundits saying we are going broke… what do you think the $14.3Trillion deficit is!?
This guy wants the country to collapse financially to reign in whatever this machine they are building around our existing gov’t and financial structure. Did anyone notice not a word has been said about the nations that met recently where DrudgeReport headline read “New World Powers Push For End Of Dollar Dominance”?
The debt ceiling must not be raised, it opens the door for more spending and to fund ‘obominations’ like Obamacare.
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 11:46pmLook who is trying to grow a pair.
Report Post »History will note that Obama is better at running for office vs providing leadership in office.
SHASTADIANE1
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 11:48pmWell let’s see…I have a 17 year old high school student trying to get financing for College for next year…his Mom is a teacher, his Dad is a tradesman, both making over 35,000 a year, and not responsible for him after age 18 which he meets in August..what kind of help does he get??? Clinton went to the best colleges with a single MOM….Obama went to college without any records apparently..I have an Honor’s student, who may not make it to college because his divorced Mom and Dad make over $75K…something is just wrong with this picture..and as far as this president is concerned…he is still and has been for 2 1/2 years campaigning…
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 11:54pm@BetterDays ~
Report Post »Sorry about the headache. Probably sinus, with all the pollen. Hope you feel better.
Am under a tornado watch until 6 a.m. Hope I have feeling (am alive) in the morning!!!
Meeting tonight. I told the group about my Blaze sponsor. They thought that was neat!
Showtime
Posted on April 16, 2011 at 12:12am@Patty Henry
I heard Neal Boortz or Erick Erickson (can’t remember which) talking about the law licenses on the radio. Michelle Obama was involved in some sort of scandal. It is not a temporary “suspension.” Don’t know why Obama/Soetoro’s was terminated, but I will see what I can find out.
There is a web site for the Illinois State Bar Association where, a long time ago, I saw where both of them had their licenses terminated.
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 16, 2011 at 12:15am@Patty Henry ~
Report Post »She was working at the University of Chicago Medical Center when something happened.
Showtime
Posted on April 16, 2011 at 12:22am@Patty Henry ~
Report Post »Hahaha!
Wikipedia is covering for her! ~~
“She continues to hold her law license, but as she no longer needs it for her work, it has been on a voluntary inactive status since 1993.[43]“
Showtime
Posted on April 16, 2011 at 12:33am@Patty Henry ~
“ARDC Lawyer Search Results from the ARDC database last updated as of April 15, 2011 at 1:12:44 PM: for the following terms: Last Name: Obama, status: All, State: IL, Country: usa
“Your search terms do not match the record of any lawyer licensed in Illinois.”
So, neither of them are licensed to practice law in Illinois. You just don’t give up your law degree! It just isn’t done! It is revoked, suspended, or you pay the annual license fee and keep it!
Report Post »Showtime
Posted on April 16, 2011 at 12:52am(They need proof of natural-born citizenship, not citizenship.)
From Fox News:
PHOENIX — The Arizona Legislature gave final approval late Thursday night to a proposal that would require President Obama and other presidential candidates to prove they are U.S. citizens before their names can appear on the state’s ballot.
Arizona would become the first state to require such proof if Gov. Jan Brewer signs the measure into law.
Republican Rep. Carl Seel of Phoenix, the author of the bill, said the bill wasn’t about opposition to Obama. “This bill is about the integrity of our elections,” Seel said.
Thirteen other states have considered similar proposals this year. The proposals were defeated in Arkansas, Connecticut, Maine and Montana.
The bill won final approval from the state House in a 40-16 vote.
So-called “birthers” contend since the last presidential election that Obama is ineligible to hold the nation’s highest elected office because, they argue, he was actually born in Kenya, his father’s homeland. The Constitution said a person must be a “natural-born citizen” to be eligible for the presidency.
Hawaii officials have repeatedly confirmed Obama’s citizenship, and his Hawaiian birth certificates have been made public. Even though the courts have rebuffed lawsuits challenging Obama’s eligibility, the issue hasn’t gone away.
“It’s a fringe issue in my view, and it‘s going to cause people to look again at Arizona and say what’s all this craziness going on there,” said Democratic Rep. Daniel Patterson of Tucson, an opponent of the bill.
The Arizona proposal would require political parties and presidential candidates to hand in affidavits stating a candidate‘s citizenship and age and to provide the candidate’s birth certificate and a sworn statement saying where the candidate has lived for 14 years.
If candidates don’t have a copy of their birth certificates, they could meet the requirement by providing baptismal or circumcision certificates, hospital birth records and other documents.
If it can’t be determined whether candidates who provided documents in place of their birth certificates are eligible to appear on the ballot, the secretary of state would be able to set up a committee to help determine whether the requirements have been met.
The names of candidates can be kept off the ballot if the secretary of state doesn’t believe the candidates met the citizenship requirement. -0-
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(Naturally, it would be a DEMOCRAT who opposed the bill. Anything CONSTITUTIONAL is not on their radar!)
tifosa
Posted on April 16, 2011 at 1:09am“Obama to Congress: You WILL Increase Debt Limit” Really? President Obama said “You WILL increase debt limit” ??? I’ve looked for that…nada.
Report Post »thepatriotdave
Posted on April 16, 2011 at 1:14amTruthTalker
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:23pm
They better tell him to go stuff it
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Exactly!
Does anyone here honestly expect that Obama will keep his word about cutting Trillions from federal deficits? You are a fool if you do. He’s only saying what he thinks will satisfy some moderates, and give some ammo to his stupid supporters so they can claim to Conservatives that Obama is fixing the problem. The only thing Obama is going to fix is his own re-election. We need a STRONG LEADER to kick Obama’s rear-end out of the White House, the people’s house.
Calling all Patriots
Report Post »Join us in drafting Col. Allen West to run for POTUS…
http://www.americasteapartynews.com/allen-west-files.php
banjarmon
Posted on April 16, 2011 at 1:17amMr “O” You work for us….NOT we for you….Congress you WORK for us..NOT the Other way around…
Report Post »CUT TAXES NOW!!!
tifosa
Posted on April 16, 2011 at 1:49amPATTY HENRY : “Purported AP news story claims Occidental College transcripts reveal that Barack Obama, under the name ‘Barry Soetoro,’ received a Fulbright Scholarship only awarded to foreign-born students.
Report Post »Description: Email hoax
Circulating since: April 2009
Status: False
hehe.
Charlesjr
Posted on April 16, 2011 at 1:54amCurrent Taxation: In 2010, the federal government collected roughly $2.2 trillion in total tax revenue. Income taxes accounted for $900 billion of collections, or about 40% of all tax receipts. The federal government spent around $3.5 trillion; the resulting deficit of $1.3 trillion was made possible by borrowing
Report Post »Government Spending Hidden from Taxpayers: The future tax burden created by this level of borrowing and spending is frightening. If Americans knew the level of income taxes they would have to pay in the not-too-distant future to cover current and future federal overspending, Tax Day would be even more alarming.Tax, Tax, Tax: Rather than seriously address out-of-control spending and entitlement reform, President Obama is once again proposing major tax increases to help pay for his reckless spending habits.
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Factsheets/2011/04/TAXES-ARE-NOT-TOO-LOW-Its-the-Spending-Stupid
Sgt.Crust
Posted on April 16, 2011 at 11:20amYou WILL do as I say or else…the little dictator is getting antsi isn’t he? You wait, he will be forced to make big cuts…then when that happens, the have nots and unionistas will riot, then the top down – Martial Law will be applied and our Constitution suspended, they are all in cahoots now, because their power is being threatened by the TEA…you all better be ready to stand up and fight for your Liberty, because there is no more nudging they can do, or have to do, they have everything in place now to CLAMP DOWN!
I’d rather be dead than RED and you bet I would stand up to protect/defend our sacred Constitution!
Down with progressives, liberals, communists and islamo-fascits – we will all pay for what they have done to this country! I sure hope people will have some backbone to stand up to this tyranny and treason all around us!
Report Post »Sgt.Crust
Posted on April 16, 2011 at 11:23amDang, he is an empty suit! Silver tongued devil, full of himself, and a daggar in the heart of America!
Report Post »psst
Posted on April 16, 2011 at 11:55amhauschild
Posted on April 15, 2011 at 9:34pm
Sadly, the Marxist is correct.
If only we had a House full of conservatives that had a set
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@ Hauschild! You are correct on that.
Here is a piece from Farah talking about the Bone-man
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=287513
banjarmon
Posted on April 16, 2011 at 1:13pmWE the PEOPLE to congress…CUT spending… CUT taxes…YOU work for US not for the potus!!!!
Report Post »StonyBurk
Posted on April 16, 2011 at 1:21pmThis is the guy who said (and I am reminded by the Patriot Action Network) “we are the ones we’ve been waiting for. ” He is a despot who dictates to a weak Congress You will raise the debt ceiling/The solvency of our Government depends on that. (something like that ) IMO our Government ceased to be solvent when the 0 said America became a great Country. The Founders heard form a Frenchman who wrote (it is said) America is Great ,because America is Good. If she ever ceases to be Good -she will no longer be great.” (something like that) FDR and Wilson turned America from its
Report Post »path set by the Founders.This present darkness would destroy America -if allowed.And go to his grave believing “we are the ones we’ve been waiting for.” thinking he is our Messiah.but he is just an evil ghin.
MIBUGNU2
Posted on April 16, 2011 at 1:57pmI am Da’ Only Man for the Job.!! What a ego !! This guy will totally fall through his ass…
Report Post »He has done so well, Jobs, Economy, 3 Wars and counting,,Brazil can Drill but we can’t,
Bebt up the Ass, Controlling our Borders, States going into Debt because of immagration,
All of his Energy interest getting stimulus money and not paying any Taxes, and on and on and on
The corrupt Media are so afraid of this jerk it’s sickening. Let‘s spend some more money we don’t have… after 2016 I won’t have to worry about it, is his attitude
Brooke Lorren
Posted on April 16, 2011 at 5:07pmI don’t know about the Congress, but I don’t really respond well to threats. I’m too stubborn.
Report Post »GETLIFE
Posted on April 17, 2011 at 10:26amWhat‘s all this talk I’ve been hearing about a balanced budget amendment in exchange for raising the debt ceiling? It’s already down to “broader reductions in spending?”
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