Obama to Propose $1.5 Trillion in New Tax Revenue
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WASHINGTON (AP) – Drawing a bright line with congressional Republicans, President Barack Obama is proposing $1.5 trillion in new tax revenue as part of his long-term deficit reduction plan, according to senior administration officials.
The president on Monday will announce a proposal that includes repeal of Bush-era tax cuts for the wealthiest taxpayers, nearly $250 billion in reductions in Medicare spending, $330 billion in cuts in other mandatory benefit programs, and savings of $1 trillion from the withdrawal of troops from Iraq and Afghanistan, the officials said.
The plan includes no changes in Social Security and does not include an increase in the Medicare eligibility age, which the president had considered this summer.
The officials briefed reporters Sunday evening, but spoke on the condition of anonymity in advance of the president’s announcement.
All in all, the president’s plan is as much an opening bid as it is a political statement designed to draw contrasts with Republicans, who control the House of Representatives.
As such, it was not intended as a compromise and did not include agreements Obama had reached with House Speaker John Boehner during failed deficit reduction negotiations this summer.
The new taxes in particular have little or no chance of passing Congress as proposed. Republicans were already lining up against the president’s tax proposal before they even knew the magnitude of what he intended to recommend.
Key features of the proposal:
_$1.5 trillion in new revenue, which would include about $800 billion realized over 10 years from repealing the Bush-era tax rates for couples making more than $250,000. It also would place limits on deductions for wealthy filers and end certain corporate loopholes and subsidies for oil and gas companies.
_$580 billion in cuts in mandatory benefit programs, including $248 billion in Medicare and $72 billion in Medicaid and other health programs. Other mandatory benefit programs include farm subsidies.
_$430 billion in savings from lower interest payment on the national debt.
By adding about $1 trillion in spending cuts already enacted by Congress and counting about $1 trillion in savings from the drawdown of military forces from Iraq and Afghanistan, the combined deficit reduction would total more than $4 trillion over 10 years, senior administration officials said.
Obama backed away from proposing sweeping changes to Medicare, following the advice of fellow Democrats that it would only give political cover to a privatization plan supported by House Republicans that turned to be unpopular with older Americans.
Administration officials said 90 percent of the $248 billion in 10-year Medicare cuts would be squeezed from service providers. The plan does shift some additional costs to beneficiaries, but those changes would not start until 2017, and administration officials made clear as well that Obama would veto any Medicare cuts that aren’t paired with tax increases on upper-income people.
The deficit reduction plan represents an economic bookend to the $447 billion in tax cuts and new public works spending that Obama has proposed as a short-term measure to stimulate the economy and create jobs. He’s submitting his deficit fighting plan to a special joint committee of Congress that is charged with recommending how to reduce deficits by $1.2 trillion to $1.5 trillion over 10 years.
Republicans have ridiculed the war savings as gimmicky, but House Republicans included them in their budget proposal this year and House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, had agreed to count them as savings during debt ceiling negotiations with Obama this summer.
But the Republicans‘ biggest objections will be with the president’s tax increases.
“Class warfare may make for really good politics but it makes for rotten economics,” GOP Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, the House Budget Committee chairman, told “Fox News Sunday.”
Ryan was commenting on Obama’s plan to propose a new minimum tax rate for taxpayers earning more than $1 million.
The measure – Obama is going to call it the “Buffett Rule” for billionaire investor Warren Buffett – is designed to prevent millionaires from taking advantage of lower tax rates on investment earnings than what middle-income taxpayers pay on their wages. At issue is the difference between a taxpayer’s tax bracket and the effective tax rate that taxpayer pays. Millionaires face a 35 percent tax bracket, while middle income filers fall in the 15 or 25 percent bracket. But investment income is taxed at 15 percent and Buffett has complained that he and other wealthy people have been “coddled long enough” and shouldn’t be paying a smaller share of their income in federal taxes than middle-class taxpayers.
Still, the White House considers passing the jobs bill far more pressing and Obama has been looking for every opportunity to bring it to the public’s attention.
In his Saturday radio and Internet address, Obama said he would lay down a plan that would show how to pay down the nation’s debt and pay for his employment legislation.
“But right now,” he said, “we’ve got to get Congress to pass this jobs bill.”
To that end, Obama on Thursday will be at a bridge linking Ohio and Kentucky – home states to Boehner and Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell. He will use the bridge as a prop to call for increased spending on infrastructure.
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Associated Press writer Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar contributed to this report.
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love the kids
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 7:09am“The president on Monday will announce a proposal that includes repeal of Bush-era tax cuts for the wealthiest taxpayers”. Why are they still saying that these tax cuts are Bush’s? Didn’t Obama just extend these stimulating cuts last year? Sounds a little biased to me.
Report Post »hud
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 9:01amYO HO HO little o gotta go, the nation can no longer afford this fool.
Report Post »teamarcheson
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 9:05amObama is so stupid. Obama needs to be sprayed with that spray that was used in the Apes movie.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 9:49amBO the TAXER in chief…
Report Post »Why are all these bill coming from the W H…Isn’t Congress the one that proposes Bills???
The Budget comes from the W H…Not Bills!!!
Am I wrong in this thinking??
Komponist-ZAH
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 10:15amBecause Bush is the root of all evil. (sarcasm)
Seriously though, note that it’s only for the “wealthy”. Mark my words, the Dems did NOT want to let the tax cuts expire, because if they had the lie of the “Bush tax cuts for the wealthy” would have been revealed when EVERYONE’S taxes went up. Raising taxes on the “wealthier” while keeping the tax cuts for the “middle class” (which would then undoubtedly be claimed as Obama’s—I use the quotation marks as “rich” and “poor”, etc. are really variable, subjective qualities) is the only way they can get rid of the “Bush” tax cuts without revealing their mendacity.
Report Post »edcoil
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 11:09amBirds gotta fly, fish gotta swim and Democrats gotta tax.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 12:02pmObama just keeps beating the same Keynesian drum over and over over…the best part of his speech today was the “go over line-by-line” tag he used during the 2008 campaign. He‘s so desperate he’s gone back to using his older lies. This is nothing but political positioning for Obama (the only thing he truly cares about is re-election). He wants to bludgeon his opponent with this during next year’s election cycle. Raising taxes on the productive sector right now is economic harakiri. We’re seeing a failed presidency right before our eyes.
Report Post »Jubie
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 1:05pmit is sad that an argument that is based in Jealous and arigent can play so well. the sad thing is, is that the people that buy into this thought think that in the end they will make the world better. what they don’t understand is that, a bad tree can’t bare good fruit. or in other words they think that only if they can make everyone equal then the jealous in their argument will be striped out because we will all be equal. or in other words a bad tree can’t bare good fruit.
Report Post »johnannegalt
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 2:01pmhttp://markamerica.com/2011/09/18/who-else-will-do-it/
“f we are to save the country, we will need for it to survive until a new election when you can tell them “No” in a different way, and when you get that opportunity, you will have a choice to say to “yes” to their sickening status quo, or “No,” but if you choose the latter you must mean it. You must select elected officials who have demonstrated the willingness to say “No” in good times as well as bad. At the local level, you must become engaged. On the state and national levels, you must be heard clearly. Refuse attempts to placate you with temporary benefits for which your children will pay.”
Report Post »bbell37968
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 7:03amOur President has jumped the shark. While he’s never much settled into being President of all the people (reference his remarks referring to political opponents as the “enemy”), at this point he’s just a partisan polemicist. The repeated “fair share” comments may or may not make for good politics; I will leave that to the analysts. But I can say definitively that it’s a vapid lie. As the President and his administration like to refer to CBO analysis, perhaps they could spend 5 minutes reviewing the following: http://www.cbo.gov/publications/collections/tax/2009/tax_liability_shares.pdf. It shows clearly that the “wealthy” are paying a share of Federal taxes that is greater than at any time in he last 30+ years. Spare me the talk of the payroll tax. That funds social transfer payments. When some 45% of wage earners pay no taxes to fund the normal operations of government, empirically it’s beyond specious to suggest that the wealthy are the ones not paying a fair share. This President may be no worse than a typical politician, but he’s certainly no better.
Report Post »MARCH4HIM
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 7:01amSOMEBODY PLEASE ..!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report Post »E-MAIL RON PAUL TO START “ IMPEACH PROCESS”… Mr. Costitution…
i’M NOT A HUGE FAN OF HIS ..but I might reconsider if he threw that on the table…
he dosent even have to (mean it)…..( JUST SAY IT ) …!!!!
HE’S A MEMBER OF CONGRESS…It might just slow the “camander and thief ”down….
the “dems in congress” say this stuff all the time…
TELL.. RON PAUL…. TO SHOOT ONE OVER THE BOW…!
it might slow this “ SOCIALIST PRESIDENT ” down…….!
Living In NYC
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 6:58amGeez Barry….collect the taxes already owed from your buddies Warren (Berkshire Hathaway), Jeffie (GE) and Timmy (Secretary of Treasury)…that will put a dent in it .. before you propose more taxes.
And for God’s sakes stay off the Brent Spence Bridge…failures always follow you..did someone say Solindra and the elections of 2010!
Report Post »Living In NYC
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 7:12amGeez Barry when you come to Cincinnati Thursday, I am sure the mayor of Cincinnati (aka..Democratic Wasteland of Southwestern Ohio / Detroit of Ohio) Mark Malory will be there greeting the emperor with open arms and an open pocketbook to catch those Federal Funds!
Report Post »gabbygirl
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 6:51amSo, the first stimulus was for his donors and now we have to come up with what it should have been spent on because it wasn’t.
Report Post »pianotech
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 6:49amFortunately, this whole thing is DOA in the House.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 12:04pmThat‘s what Obama’s counting on. He’s playing chicken with the GOP to use this during the election cycle in 2012. This is all political by Obama, it’s not meant to be credible fiscal policy.
Report Post »Cat
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 6:40am…
Report Post »Folks … They will NOT get it, until we shut them down!
Their ONLY game is to steal it ALL!
Erabin
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 7:11amYou should probably not say that at a time where taxes are at the lowest levels in about 60 years.
Report Post »Cat
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 7:22am@ERABIN
My firm is a service firm and we are all licensed professionals.
It is a cooperative, profit sharing entity.
Gross revenue is projected to be down to 11mil at fiscal year’s end.
We will not move forward as long as Barry’s Affordable Heath Care Act is law.
We have already dropped all dependent coverage and are planning more cutbacks at year’s end.
We have trimmed staff by 10% and holding, and everyone now is their own secretary & receptionist.
The average workday is 16 hours plus, excluding after hours thought.
We’ve owned the building, fee simple, for over 10 years.
Property taxes have gone up more than 1.2 mils a year.
The real estate value dwindled by 30% in the last 2 years.
We’ve spent more time in courts in the last 14 months defending clients than producing ideas.
Every case has ended in a judgment in favor of the client.
We seldom do volunteer work anymore and charitable contributions are minimal.
We are angry and becoming mad as hell, and we’re NOT going to take it anymore.
And we’re being told it’s a sign of the times by our elected officials.
Bull crap, it’s the sign of a corrupt government!
It’s not about taxes, it’s about monetizing debt, it ruing the value of fake paper money.
Report Post »Read about the Virmar Republic and get back to us.
Obama_Sham
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 7:38am@CAT
No need replying to Erabin… The little basement troll only regurgitates talking points…
Report Post »HKS
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 7:48am@obama_sham, Oh you mean he or she is a liberal, they all do that. Heard one, you’ve heard them all, no independent thinkers there. Robots, sort of like that health club commercial with the muscle bound guy holding a jug of drink repeating “I pick things up, I put them down” over and over again.
Report Post »Cat
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 8:18am@OBAMA_SHAM
That’s what happens when thinking everyone is intelligent and can find their way out of a paper bag.
Thanks …
Report Post »unequivocally_right
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 10:25am@ERABIN. Go drown in your think tank and leave the rest of us common folk alone. We are fed up with elitists such as yourself. If you want higher taxes, donate all of you income to the government. I for one will not as they already take a big chunk out of my paycheck. If you want to lead, lead by example and not expect others to accept your proposals unless you enforce it upon yourself first. It’s funny because BHO is a hypocrite and took advantage of all the “Bush” tax cuts when he filed his taxes. What a joker.
Report Post »welloddyfriggindah
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 6:38amIt‘s as though they’re taunting us. We HAVE to be strong. They’d love to have reason to expand the presidents power by executive order because those nasty tea party types need to be watched more closely. Need to establish. BARACKWATCH.ORG.
Report Post »AzCowboy
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 6:25amCongress, Read the entire bill before you do anything. If everything reported above is done. Maybe that would amount to 20 pages. Whats in the other 300?????
Report Post »jH…
HKS
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 7:44amAny bill coming from this administration is a Trojan horse to communism. The facts are there right out in the open, problem is no one reads them.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 5:55amHe needs to shut up – all he knows is spend spend spend- he’s nothing but a comunity organizer
Report Post »sgallion1
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 6:16amThis is our money and you can’t have it!
Report Post »tomloy
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 5:42amOsama, er, excuse me, Obama can propose anything he wants. Thanks the good lord we have republicans in the house of representatives who won’t pass this. The government is NOT the answer to all problems, the government IS the problem.
Report Post »CatB
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 6:01amFunny how these taxes on the “rich” always include small businesses in the end .. there aren’t enough “millionaires and billionaires” to make an impact so they ALWAYS end up hurting those who already PAY TAXES .. how about going after the deadbeats who pay nothing (make them have some skin in the game) or people who actually pay nothing and GET A TAX REFUND .. AKA WELFARE!
I have also noticed a lot of Dems don’t pay their taxes (Timmy Geitner .. even BUFFET for all his talk owes BACK TAXES)
TEA!
Report Post »Cat
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 6:42am@CATB
We ALL need to stop paying taxes.
Report Post »They’re NOT listening!
SHOWMESTATEGUY
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 4:39amAn additional 1.5 trillion in taxes. Say what you will about BO but he seems determined to keep Solyndra ( or GE) in business. He’s got to have those campaign contributions.
Report Post »NuffSaid
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 3:39amThe igrnt Obama is praying that we all determine that he is just a stupid fkr when he leaves office, But he and his bros are gonna be filthy rich and dangerous as Gabon vipers when out of office..
He’s a Chicago thug, never gave a damn about any other human being. Prosecute Obama and the women and lower-life back-seat, limousine crack head lizards that make up his crew.
Prosecution, not impeachment.
Report Post »mml35
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 3:38amYou want the truth why this agenda is being pushed, youtube Ret. Lt. Gen W.G. Jerry Boykin…..this man is telling the truth about the marxist agenda.
Report Post »babylonvi
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 3:22amHe sticks us with Obamacare, hundreds or billions to his wall street pals, billions go overseas(along with jobs), thousands of job and economy killing regulations, tyrannical oppression by DHS, DEA, EPA and now the biggest tax increase in the history of the US? Is there ANYONE left who does not understand that Batty’s objective is to destroy the United States for all time?
Report Post »johnnycatt
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 7:13amSecession is the ONLY answer left… The sane red states have to get away from the insane blue states… This is the only way, now… the Leftists from California, Illinois, Massachusetts and the rest are going to enslave us. Unless those 3 states (and others) can dump their socialist agenda’s and socialist leaders (Including the Big-govt Republicans), they gotta go!
Report Post »vtxphantom
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 3:12amWe need to get rid of obama. At this point I’m not too concerned with the how we do it, just do it.
Report Post »teapartyconservatism
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 3:09amHad enough yet?
Wouldn’t it be great if you could undo the laws Obama passed, cancel the debt he caused, and return trillions to our Treasury? Well you can!
Politically disregarded law, Art. 2, Sec. 1, “No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible … .”
Exempting a citizen (the minimum requisite then was US birth to a US father) from being a natural born citizen, proves they are not equal. Only US birth to US citizen parents (plural) is greater, thus defining a natural born citizen; as confirmed by Supreme Court binding precedent in Minor v. Happersett, 1874.[1]
Obama’s Kenyan father precluded his eligibility! Impeachment isn’t applicable, the damage remains and the Senate may not cooperate. The solution is to prosecute Obama (aka Barry Soetoro, Harrison J. Bounel, Barack Soebarkah) for using an alleged fraudulent social security number and birth certificate to usurp the Presidency.[2]
Then if he resigns or is later pardoned, we can still undo the damage. Demand your state and federal elected officials prosecute Obama now!
That makes sense to me. What do you think?
1. TeaPartyConservatism, “Obama is Not an Eligible Natural Born Citizen,” http://teapartyconservatism.blogspot.com/ (8/18/2011).
2. Dr. Orly Taitz, JD., “Obama’s fraud, 3 hour Roth radio interview,” http://homelandsecurityus.com/archives/5172 (8/18/2011).
Report Post »NuffSaid
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 4:04amThank you TPC!
Can you believe that there are still dem’s that are whining about the corporations having money outside of the US? Can you believe that some lib media still refer to the Tea party as if it is some “feature” or some “wing of the Republican party and warn Republicans that the Tea Party will make your candidates un-electable? Most people are gagging at the news about Solyndra, ATF and the “Jobs Pill.” Why is he still in the White House?
Even the Liberal NY Jews, who sent their commie operatives to support the civil rights movement in Missisipi have been drugged into neutrality on the Chicago commie by Mayor Koch.
And finally, we find out how Hoover discovered that MLK put his own staff or righteousness in front of -GOD’s–because King was a socialist. Hoover and the FBI were tracking MLK for his communist ties! The whole time, just another shcuker and jiver with a stern look and a voice like thunder.. Now mlk’s voice sounds more like just another fart in the wind by a cheap, welfare cheat, one hand in another man‘s poket and his other hand in another man’s wife’s pants..
I hear the statue, looking like a giant, yellow fireplug, of MLk idiot is going to Wash DC. Everyone, Brings your dogs!
Report Post »Erabin
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 7:19amIf even ******* Glenn Beck calls you people crazy you should start getting the hint. Jesus Christ.
Report Post »Cat
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 8:04am@TPC
Read page 107 of the ‘Affordable Heath Care Act’ if you want your blood to really boil.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 8:42am@cat
I read most of the health care bill. Actually I read most of the first 2 that didn’t pass, too. That’s what got me into politics in the first place. I have family in the medical profession (doctors as well as nurses) and it scared me for them. I knew it would not only lead to a single payer, on par with Medicaid, but would run doctors off. They want to have all doctors paid the same from specialists to general practitioners. Why go to all that extra schooling, time in internship, etc, to get the same pay as if you hadn’t? Why let the government determine what you can charge? Let the people determine by going to the cheaper doctor. I have Tricare Prime. I got denied my eye exam reimbursement because I didn’t go to a qualified provider, which they didn’t have 3 years ago. I called one of their qualified providers. I paid $65 got my eye exam, and they were going to charge me $160 for the same exam. then Tricare would only reimburse 80% OF WHAT THEY ALLOW. there was a thing in the first 2 (don’t know if it made the cut) called Take Back Your Health Act 2009 – just found it at http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s111-1640. Read that and be scared. It is still on the books, but only read in congress.
Report Post »opaque blinders
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 2:56amI love this guy, How not to run a country by BHB. You think this is insane wait until you see his lame duck period of 3 months. He’s going to punish us like a Ginger Child. Well it will be 3 months if the Mayan’s were wrong. He‘s toying with this country like it’s a child’s play set. Bite me Barack!
Report Post »godlovinmom
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 2:39amIsn’t it funny how obama ran on the hope and change of no more phoney government backdoor deals…and yet that‘s all he’s done since he’s been in office….
Report Post »Ruler4You
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 2:41amWhat a lout.
Report Post »Fantastic Four
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 3:36amand “cry baby waffle house boehner” still gives him blank checks and will not appoint a special prosecutor?
Report Post »icareabouttheusa
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 6:52amWhat is scary, is not Obama, its the idiots who voted for this guy in the first place.
Report Post »JACKTHETOAD
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 7:14amHe did the same thing that FDR did. He lied like a rug to get in office, then went back on everyone of his campaign promises. There ought to be a recall law for these lyin’ bastids, POTUS or not. (The only promise this “president” kept was to try to bankrupt the coal-generating electric plants, and I think that has an underlying motive; cutting our electric power by almost 10% is close to treasonous.)
Report Post »colonial10
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 2:33amWhen I hear the word savings it just means to me more spending on other crappy programs run by the government. Somewhere during the past someone must have passed the “the opposite day law”. When they say save they mean spend. When they say cut taxes they raise. When they say this is what the American people want it means screw the American people this is what I want. Etc…….
Report Post »OkieMandy
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 2:33amThe Jobs Bill is a joke. What other nugget of joy will this guy try to jam down our throats. We all pay taxes. Maybe the system we have now is not working. Perhaps we should reevaluate our tax revenue system. The President has a opportunity to be a pioneer and he is wasting it away with vacations and crony capitalism.
Report Post »ConservativeCharlie
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 2:14amI dont know if he has a limit. I think if its looking like he is losing the election he will do something horribly drastic. I mean even more drastic than stealing 1.5 trillion from tax payers. Amnesty for illeagals is never far from his mind. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz2EniavDIA
Report Post »Erabin
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 7:17amWell, Reagan gave amnesty to illegals too and it appears that Obama wants to be more like Reagan.
*sigh*
If only. Too bad Obama is far too conservative for that.
Report Post »ConservativeCharlie
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 2:12amTax the rich, unless your a democrat…. This video sums it up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz2EniavDIA Obama and all of his Dem Maniacs.
Report Post »NOBALONEY
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 2:08amTaxes we already knew about, but President Obama takes another 248 billion out of Medicare. He also makes assumptios of interest savings made by cuts in later years(gimmick). It‘s no wonder this is the work of someone who doesn’t really realize the gravity of the situation with the debt and deficit. it‘s clear that he’s put his own political career ahead of the nation’s economy and welfare.
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 2:17amYea, cuts in Medicaid and “other benifits programs.” We’re on Tricare Prime, the military insurance because my husband gave 20 years. The already only reimburse at about 19% on an MRI, does this mean it will drop to 10%? I‘ve already lost doctors because they can’t afford to have Medicaid or Tricare patients. My pharmacy insurance (Express Scripts) is being dropped by Walgreen’s, and I can’t really blame them. They billed Express Scripts last month for over $800 in meds just for me, and Express Scripts only allowed about half of that, and paid probably 80% of what they allowed, so it was like 45% of what was billed. Just wait until Obamacare really kicks in and y’all are all on government insurance, and the hospitals start closing and doctors quit or retire early.
Report Post »Nick84
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 3:19amloriann12-
I‘m not sure if you’re what I would consider a typical poster on here, but judging by some of your other comments, I‘d say that’s a pretty fair assumption. What I really don’t understand is the general attitude on this site opposing things like welfare. I’ve also seen a number of comments on other articles against high pensions for things like union jobs. Yet, when it comes to the military, we just can’t throw enough tax money at them. Your husband worked a job for 20 years. Sure it might have been difficult, but many jobs are. From my understanding, someone can retire from the military at 38 years old and make a minimum of about $1,200 a month (for an e4). Not only is your husband covered by an insurance program for life, but you are too. I won’t even get into other benefits like education and other forms of insurance. If your husband worked any other job, I’m sure people on this site would be appalled by the benefits you continue to receive from their tax money. Now I’m not sure of your views on any of this, so this isn’t directed at you personally, but I just find it ironic that you will probably find nothing but sympathy from the same people that seem to want to see “lazy” welfare recipients left on the street to die since they don’t currently have a job.
Report Post »MARCH4HIM
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 7:39am@ NICK
Report Post »Huge and I mean frickin Huge diferance…COMPAIRINNG SOCIAL WELFARE AND SERVICE IN MILITARY
Someone that serves there country for twenty years if they make it that long,…
Verses “many ”playing the system,to get what they can,taking a hand out, because they dont want to work at micky-ds
or two job like most families these days.My two boys one just got back the other is comming home soon …
The one thats back now he got out early(no pension.. like most that serve ),and any benifits from “his service” was well earned….my other will probably do the same…when you earn it ..It taste better .
I have never seen such dis-respect and arrogance to put (welfare and milatary service ) in the same sentence…You are a piece of work …lets see… maybe “community service” sound like your speed ……to say the words “ DIE IN THE STREETS ” AND TALKING ABOUT WELFARE…. INSTEAD OF A SOLDIER….I WISH YOU WERE SITTING AT MY TABLLE SAYING THAT CRAP….MY SON WOULD PUT A BOOT TO YOUR ASS .YOU WOULDNT KNOW WHAT HIT YOU…….!!!!!!!!!!!
Take that Obama crap and pitch it somewhere else…
Komponist-ZAH
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 10:39amNick—
“…the same people that seem to want to see “lazy” welfare recipients left on the street to die..”
“Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all. We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain.”
Report Post »―Frédéric Bastiat, The Law
Chuck Stein
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 2:08amIf he really wanted to help things, he would repeal Obamacare.
Report Post »pwatkins
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 2:32amThe only one he wants to help is himself and he is doing that about a half a billion at a time.
Report Post »Komponist-ZAH
Posted on September 19, 2011 at 10:26am……and Frank-Dodd…
…..and all the other sensless coporatist regulations, bureaus, and agencies, for that matter…
….and institute a flat tax.
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