Obama’s Ag Sec: You Know What Creates Jobs? Food Stamps
- Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:23pm by
Jonathon M. Seidl
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Last week, Press Secretary Jay Carney mad the bold — and odd — claim that unemployment checks create jobs (see the comment and how one blogger proves it wrong here). Well, it seems the government-welfare-programs-create-jobs mantra is becoming a popular mantra, as now Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack went on MSNBC Tuesday morning to make the case that food stamps are job creators.
Yes, Vilsack actually calls the food stamp program an “economic stimulus:”
If that sounds familiar, it’s because Vilsack used some of the exact same language Carney used last week. Are you sensing a new talking point?
After you take a few deep breaths and wipe the confused look off your face, read how Hot Air’s Ed Morrissey exposes Vilsack’s — and the administration’s — logic:
So here’s the question. If food stamps create jobs, like Vilsack says here, and we’re putting record numbers of Americans on food stamps, then why aren’t we seeing record job creation? If every dollar spent on food stamps creates $1.84 in production, as Vilsack argues, and the number of food stamp recipients keeps rising, then why haven’t the GDP numbers reflected that fabulous growth?
So what about that multiplier Vilsack claims? The one that says every dollar spent on food stamps leads to $1.84 in production? Yeah, Morrissey has something to say about that, too:
The multiplier effect is completely bogus. For one thing, much of the money gets absorbed by the government bureaucracies that manage these programs. Second, as I alluded earlier, the evidence we see all around us shows us that we can’t get economic growth through government welfare programs. If what Vilsack said was true, we’d be better off seizing all income and handing out food stamps.
You can read the rest of Morrissey’s thoughts here.
Author Brad Thor asked an interesting question after hearing Vilsack’s thoughts: “By this big gov’t reasoning, should we lighten up on bank robbers as they end up putting the $$ they steal back into the economy?”
Good question.
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Comments (364)
Kess
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:44pmWouldn’t it make more sense to get those people off of food stamps so that they can use a PAYCHECK to pay for all those things? A robust economy where no one is on foodstamps and using their own money to purchase goods put significantly more money into the economy that foodstamps ever did.
Report Post »thomasdaddy
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:56pmkess…..
That makes sense to me! First on the list of entitlement reform would be renaming Welfare, T.A.P (Temporary Assistance Program). Put the word “TEMPORARY” in the title, so people know they are expected to get off it at some point.
Report Post »pscully17
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:56pmDid you cath the line Vilsak said about “ we are going to try something thats NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE” ok on top of saying Food stamps are the best option to employment? Its now very disturbing to me, that you are trying NEVER DONE BEFORE acrobatics without a net!! You are going to collapse like a stage at a state fair!!!!!
Report Post »ShyLow
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:02pmFood stamps raise the price of higher end food…They should only be alowed in stores such as SaveALot
Report Post »Kess
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:02pm@SonOfaCommunist
Why don’t you try to put up a legitimate argument instead of resorting to calling people douche bags?
Report Post »jzs
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:04pmOkay, I thought tax breaks for the “job creators” (the super wealthy) created jobs. Bush did it. It didn’t create jobs. Those tax cuts are still in effect, and not creating jobs. Many companies are making record profits, yet aren’t hiring. And all I hear doing more of the same things that led to the crash in 2007. Isn’t that the definition of insanity?
chfields62
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:07pmWell, they are right, unemployment check, food stamps, welfare check do create jobs………….Government jobs…the more that need them the more poeple they have to hire to get them their checks…….Thats liberal government in action…..
Report Post »thomasdaddy
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:13pmshy,
That’s not only false it borderline discriminatory!
Listen people, i get that what was said sounds ridiculous, but the premise is true. The way to stimulate the economy is to give the money to the people who will spend it. If you send stimulus checks out to everyone, the majority will not spend it in down economic times. If you give money to someone in need they will automatically spend it on basic needs. With regards to food stamps they can only be used on certain and very specific items so the money will be put back into the economy immediately.
I wouldn’t call it a stimulus by any means, but every cent of food stamp money is spent and does keep the economy moving in a way…Hate it or not it is a fact…
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:15pm@ thomasdaddy There’s no such thing as a temporary government program,once it’s started it never dies
Report Post »and only consumes wealth.All forms of welfare are immoral and unconstitutional and should be abolished
forever.Generally the dems are the party that push these unconstitutional programs,they need to keep people down, it’s a built in voting base that keeps these moronic and anti-constitution progressives in power.
pscully17
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:19pm@jzs… lets review.. Obamacare, the dodd/frank bill, the epa, the Interior dept, the prospect of the current tax rates expiring on a whim, the death of the energy industry, and a whole litany of unknown penalties that obama has already put into laws but the details havent been written yet,, why as a business, would you take on more liability in hiring, expanding right now… ask any business owner or ceo… do you NOT read the papers? Its the UNCERTAINTY OF OBAMAS HIDDEN PENALTIES that are forcing businesses to cut back and put on Hiring freezes!! news flash… People dont create businesses just for the kind gesture of HIRING people,… they hire people to expand their prosperity, and after dissecting the data of todays climate.. they are forced to Hold, cut back and wait. get it? Its the Obama policies.. it has NOTHING to do with the tax rates!!
Report Post »IntransigentMind
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:21pmMore Keynesian nonsense! At what point do these people get around to admitting they’re simply wrong about economics and therefore their entire miserable, disastrous philosophy?
Report Post »http://markamerica.com/2011/08/16/the-aliens-have-landed/
Foodstamps create jobs? Well, then so do automobile accidents, right? And airplane crashes? And train wrecks? I mean, let’s have a plague spread and create jobs for mortuary workers, too? Right?
I’m tired of this crapola.
edcoil
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:22pmIt stimulates government and that is all they care about. More food stamps, more federal union members to dole them out.
Report Post »thomasdaddy
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:23pmchf,
Actually Obama cut Government jobs.
Private-sector jobs up 1.8 millon, government jobs down 547,000 in last year: Sunday’s Numbers
1.7 percent: Increase in the number of private sector jobs nationally with the addition of 1.8 million jobs from 107.4 million in July 2010 to 109.2 million last month.
-2.4 percent: Decline in government jobs nationally with the loss of 547,000 jobs from 22.6 million in July 2010 to 22 million last month.
Source: Analysis of Bureau of Labor Statistics data
Bush actually oversaw the largest expansion of Government in the history of this country! Funny how a republican makes government bigger, and a democrat is shrinking it, yet you people still say Obama is for big government! Know the facts!
thomasdaddy
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:26pmprogressiveslayer,
I think the government needs to be as strict on welfare as they were once upon a time with unemployment. You actually had to prove you were looking for a job in order to receive your benefits!
Report Post »Welfare is not immoral. There are people who are going to need help from time to time. That’s life! Taking advantage of the help is immoral, not the help itself.
AvengerK
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:26pmLOL….Thomasdaddy…that had to be one of the most pathetic attempts to defend the failure of the Obama administration I’ve ever seen. What part of TAXPAYER MONEY is just too difficult for you to grasp? You’re not generating any wealth with food stamps. You’re not generating any business expansion with food stamps. You most definitely are NOT “moving the economy in a way” with food stamps. You‘re pertetuating stagnation by using food stamps all it’s doing moving taxpayer money around in a circle.
Report Post »I know you‘re an economic illiterate but surely even a dolt like you should understand that expanding food stamps doesn’t do anything for the economy? Is delusion and deception all you and this failed administration have Thomasdaddy?
techengineer11
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:35pmSo this is what America has devolved into.. Simply sickening.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:51pmLOL…really Thomasdaddy..Obama shrunk public sector jobs?
Report Post »Did your Huffpo cut and paste tell you to say that?
Why won’t you and Huffpo tell us why the public sector lost jobs Thomasdaddy? It’s because funding at the state and local levels has dried up and government workers got laid off. Even with Obama‘s failed stimulus 1 and 2 he still couldn’t keep those jobs. It shrunk because they’re broke Thomasdaddy…you intellectual cripple.
Baron_Doom
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:52pmFood stamps only create jobs for those printing companies that are making the actual food stamps. What a moron.
Report Post »Marci
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:56pmThis started with Nancy Pelosi, and now Carney and this schmuck are repeating it? 1984. They are hoping the “hope and change” crowd, who questions nothing while attacking everything will just eat it up and repeat it. This should prove to fence sitters once and for all, your government believes you are stupid. They believe stupidity voted in Obama (and it did, but it had some help from fraud–ACORN, SEIU, dead people, prisoners, and people who were magically cloned into several other people) and this same stupidity will roll with this nonsense.
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:56pmBut, that would end the government dependency, which would end the democrat party. There would be no need for them any longer, and we couldn’t have that now, could we???
Report Post »thomasdaddy
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:58pmgerk,
Try to use your head for 2 freaking seconds, I promise it won’t hurt! No one here is talking about building wealth or business expansion! I‘m merely talking about a source of spending that doesn’t completely dissipate into something you never see again like Medicare & Medicaid! I’m not talking about food stamps turning around the economy; i’m simply saying that the premise of giving the money to those that will spend the most of it is the correct premise! Read the rest of my comments before you open your mouth!
You yourself agree with my point you idiot!!! Grammatically incorrect, but my point, none the less!
Your words!:
“all it’s doing moving taxpayer money around in a circle.”
I prefer a circle to a dead-end! Dumba$$! Stupidity is that warm snuggly blanket you seem to love wrapping yourself in! Do you ever read comments before you start typing, or are it that you simply lack the reading comprehension skills to…….never mind, just answered my own question!
Report Post »fatjack
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 5:09pmjzs
Yeah the brilliant De’rats have once again showed a flash of genius for job growth by reinstitution of the draft…. and they won’t show up on that pesky Friday jobless report.
Report Post »thomasdaddy
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 5:12pmgerk,
You are completely stupid! Void of all intellect!
“LOL…really Thomasdaddy..Obama shrunk public sector jobs?
Did your Huffpo cut and paste tell you to say that?”
Did you not see where I listed the source of the contents of my comment as being the following?
“Source: Analysis of Bureau of Labor Statistics data”
There’s that reading comprehension problem of yours again!
Excuse me for not force-feeding you like a child! Here’s the link ditz!
http://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet
“Even with Obama‘s failed stimulus 1 and 2 he still couldn’t keep those jobs. It shrunk because they’re broke”
So let me get this straight! If there is no cut in government jobs, Obama is for big government. If there is a cut in government jobs it’s because Obama is screwing up? LMAO!! You’re an idiot! So what‘s the reason he’s already deported more illegals in 3yrs than Dubya in 8? I know! The illegals are volunteering to be deported because Obama is screwing up! LMAO!!! I think it’s time for you to be fitted for a new aluminum foil hat!
Report Post »ShyLow
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 5:15pmIf you were to give everyone 10million dollars we would be a 3rd world country in an instant…no-one would have the inciive to work any job.That means,no casheirs at the gas station,no cooks or casheirs at fast food resturaunts,no-one to fix your plumbing,stock the grogiery store,deliver or make goods…My point is…Giving everyone free food,housing,phone,internet…is about the same as giving everyone 10million dollars
Report Post »GeorgieJo
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 5:19pmGEEZE HOW stupid do they think we are?
Yeah Obummer—-PUT everybody on foodstamps and UNemployment checks
NEVER have I seen an adminstration PUNISH acheivement like this one does….well except for GREEN-GORE jobs and they are fleeing the country also…..SOLAR GOLF anyone?
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 5:47pmThomasdaddy….You preen and puff your wheezing chest trying to convince yourself that you’re the intellectual superior to the readers here but you call a proofreading oversight a “grammatical error”? And you immediately precede it with a display of your own ignorance? Nonetheless is one word -not “none the less”-you self applauding pair of clownshoes.
Report Post »More directly your display of economic illiteracy explains why you‘re an Obama supporter but still it’s no less a display of blind economic ignorance.
Food stamps do nothing credible for any economy. Moving taxpayer money around in circles doesn’t support an economy. It stagnates it. Asking for more food stamps exacerbates the problem it doesn’t stablize it, nor does it begin to alleviate it. There is no credible foundation to make the assertion that “more food stamps create jobs”. A community dependent on food stamps would see jobs leave the area not retain them. Clearly you have no credible grasp of how economies work Thomasdaddy. “prefer a circle to a deadend”? Tax money is fickle. It’s at the whim of politicians and the number of taxpayers (so much for more food stamps). That “circle” you’re “preferring” is a very tenuous one that can break at any time. As earlier when you were quoting Huffpo about Obama’s public sector job “reduction” without acknowledging why those jobs were cut..TAX MONEY was no longer available to pay for them. So what’s your answer for them? more food stamps? It is
JJ Coolay
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 5:49pmBloody morons!!!
And JZS… Tax cuts don’t create jobs, it merely separates people from the tight grip the have on their wallets. Less taxes=more consumer spending. Job
Report Post »Mike N
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 5:50pmI say we furnish each participating family with a dozen packets of seeds, a couple of chickens, a goat, a garden hose, a shovel, a copy of Farming for Dummies, and then phase out the food stamp program over the next 12 months.
Let’em work for a living, just like the rest of us.
Report Post »banjarmon
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 5:52pmJay Carney has had way too much BO koolaid!!!
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 6:05pmwow Thomasdaddy…you’re an idiot, but of the Olympian proportions you‘ve displayed today I wasn’t aware of.
Report Post »Let me remind you once again…the policies that led to more illegals being deported in the last few years were in place before Obama took office (much like the hit on Bin Laden). If you can name me even one new policy that Obama implemented that’s responsible for the higher number of deportations please provide it. I’ve asked you to do this in the past. You’ve resorted to your usual.. “Ha dumb@ass” deflections instead.
I’m not surprised that my sarcasm about Huffpo eluded you Thomasdaddy, you’re just not all that bright to pick up on that kind of nuance.
Your problem is you don’t “get it straight” or get it at all Thomasdaddy. Obama’s stimulus (1 and 2) attempted to expand government and buttress the unions. Billions of dollars to “shovel ready jobs” that Obama admitted “shovel ready wasn’t as shovel ready as we expected”. Obamacare also expanded government beaurocracy. Government jobs have been getting cut not because of a concentrated policy by Obama to cut them, but because tax money has run out at the federal, state and local levels to keep the jobs. I‘m temped to say that even you couldn’t be that stupid as to attempt to state that Obama has made policy to cut government jobs but clearly…you are that stupid. The government jobs got cut because states and local governments can‘t pay for them any longer because they’re broke…
yosemitefan
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 6:25pmIf we required mandatory drug testing to receive welfare or unemployment benefits would decrease the budget by half.
Report Post »Kbob
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 8:18pmthomasdaddy, the only problem with the atatement is where does that dollar come from, that is given to the A) food stamp recipient or B) unemployed? the taxpayer….it is NOT earned by the recipient. The taxpayer could have spent that dollar better than the recipient. Mark Levin says that if Vilacks staement was true, than the rioters in England increased the employment, because the storeowners have to rebuild what they tore down and restock the shelves……comes down to who pays that “ first installment” of money.
Report Post »Melvin Spittle
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 8:19pm@pscully17
Regarding jzs’s comment, you stole my thunder! I could not agree more. You must remember though that facts do not count when arguing with some folks, I’m sure jzs is an exception. Sophistry has been resorted to by the left to defend their indefensible argument, and I use the term argument loosely as they are not truly arguments due to the numerous fatal flaws in logic.
If you discount all of the baseless claims in their argument, they are left with none to defend, leaving the last tool of the desperate and that be sophistry.
Report Post »Melvin Spittle
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 8:48pm@ thomasdaddy did you just say that limiting shopping choices to lower priced food is discriminatory? Yes it is and rightly so. As a minimum, if you are on my dime, you should not be shoving the cart full of steaks, ice-cream and pastries that even I can’t afford to eat. You are damn right I would discriminate! It is because the system is being obscenely abused by the most obese government check recipients on earth! I will not stand for my tax dollars being wasted on huge bags of wasted flesh. We as a society are not doing them any good by perpetuating the problem as they are never motivated to move on and become producers rather than multi-generational moochers such as the ones we have here in the People’s Socialist State of California. Why should we pity the lazy that refuses to do a damn thing for themselves because their is no motivation to do so? Show me a truly hungry person here in the US that is not being taken care of. Show me one! Don’t be blinded by feel-good philosophies of false morality.
Report Post »chazman
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 9:31pm… Tom Vilsack … whatever credibility you may have had just took a nose dive into a bucket of poo. These stupid comments of your’s will define who you are until yer dying day … you moron.
Report Post »SpeckChaser
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 9:33pm@JZS
We all know that a company that gets to keep more of the fruits of their labor really upsets you, but what is your opinion of GE? Is it corrupt, in you opinion, that one of the presidents advisors company did not pay any of their “fair share?” Shouldn’t you be griping about them before you attack companies who have some skin in the game? Or do you like focusing your attention on the mild offenders, then working your way up to the truly corrupt. Can you answer these questions or should I add them to the list you have refused to answer so far?
Report Post »SpeckChaser
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 10:49pm@JZS
I am still waiting on ONE example where you have applied liberal ideology to your life and reaped it’s benefits. This is the eighth or ninth time I have asked. Have you not responded because you have no example. Is it safe to say you advocate ideas you are unwilling to follow in your personal life, making you hypocritical?
Report Post »nptden
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 2:58amThe Socialists hit us double. The EPA, DOT regulations increase our costs. Then this bird wants the govt to pay for it with working peoples money, and call it a stimulus. Give us a break. Leave our country and practice your commie principles somewhere else.
Report Post »thomasdaddy
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 9:52amgerk…
When are you going to read what I type and respond to that as opposed to reading what I post and making up an answer to a point I never made????
“There is no credible foundation to make the assertion that “more food stamps create jobs”.”
I never once claimed that food stamps create jobs! Never! If you can find it copy and paste where I said that! I merely stated that food stamps share the same basic premise of economic stimulus which is put money in the hands of the people who will spend it. 100% of food stamps that are issued are spent on food!!!!!!! That money sinks into the economy becoming that “circle” you keep talking about! My point is, and has been since we started this, that it‘s an entitlement that actually doesn’t drag on the economy if the tax money goes in a “CIRCLE”! Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security pay out more than they are taking in and are huge deficit expenses! I don‘t like placing Social Security in that category because you have to pay into it in order to receive benefits but it’s a deficit expense.
Try to keep up this time! I’m really sick of explaining the same thing to you over and over!
Report Post »thomasdaddy
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 10:15amgerk,
You are the poster child for why abortion should remain legal!
“the policies that led to more illegals being deported in the last few years were in place before Obama took office”
So where the policies that caused the economic collapse, but your dumba$$ blames Obama for the state of the economy!! Unreal!! Just because the policies to deport illegals were in place Obama gets the credit for implementing them! The same policies were in place during the 8yrs Bush was in office, but he didn’t implement them! Again, you have no point or a leg to stand on! Idiot!
I saw your huffpo sarcasm and raised you one factual link! I see you run from facts like you run from intelligence and rational thought! No surprise there!
Job Growth Where Bush Didn’t Want It
By FLOYD NORRIS
Published: February 9, 2008
IT is not exactly a distinction that he had in mind, but seven years into his presidency, George W. Bush is in line to be the first president since World War II to preside over an economy in which federal government employment rose more rapidly than employment in the private sector.
So the fact that government jobs under Obama means nothing because you say it was all due to the economic collapse which was also a Bush doing! LMAO!!!
You are just stupid for no reason!! There is absolutely no reason on earth for you to be this dumb!
Report Post »myway
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 10:22amYou have to eat it to know what is in it! Obamanomics CZAR is a genius! He wins a ride on the Canadian No Jobs for America Grey Hound Tour Bus! He is going to stop by and get the beer, wine and snacks on his Food Stamps! I thought I hear it all. It was just unemployment that brought us back to a thriving economy for every dollar in unemployment you wasted 3 dollars talking about it.
What a Campaign Slogan
Report Post »“Food Stamps and Unemployment Create Wealth in America, I mean Canada, no, I mean Amer…”
smithclar3nc3
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 12:12pmThis whole adminstration is slam full of idiots. Food stamps creates jobs like prisons creates jobs. So using their logic criminals are job creator. You know what creates job actual jobs that benefit the government and citizenry alike….PRIVATE INDUSTRY AND ONLY PRIVATE INDUSTRY.
Report Post »Hollywood
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 1:14pmSensible politicians, is an oxymoron. You can delete the last half of my sentence,and just put in – are morons,if you wish!
Report Post »Goodforall
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 2:06pmHave you ever seen what “staples” these people buy with these so called “assistance programs”? It’s not just bread, eggs, rice, milk ect. It’s anything and everything-even saw one who was in front of me and had a bill of over $78.00-and used their “free stuff” card. They then bought over $100.00 of beer and wine and paid cash! I had the nerve to ask them why they didn’t pay cash for their groceries-the answer was that Obama was paying for their groceries and that it was none of my business! Damn, we’d better wake the heck up and realize there is a major differenc in giving people a hand up instead of continous hand outs!
Report Post »OneCitizenOfTheRepublic
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 2:33pmOf course Food Stamps create jobs…just like graveyards create votes for Progressives/Demo-Socialists
Report Post »rosegrower
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 4:29pmIf food stamps are such a great thing, why then do the recipients sell them for 50 cents on the dollar for CASH? This little racket is big business in many areas. Maybe that’s the “stimulus” Vilsack was talking about.
Report Post »Kenai
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 11:02pmPresident Ovomit will be the first President to have his picture on a food stamp card, you know like other Presidents pictures have been put on money….
Report Post »Armed Patriot
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 8:29amFirst they must take it from my paycheck to give to someone else. That means that I dont have that very same dollar to buy “more” food with so how exactly does it mean any more work? I hate being in the supermarket and seeing that fat woman buying food, that I no longer can afford, with her foodstamp card and the only word she speaks in english is when the cashier asks is it a debit card or foodstamp and she replies… foodstamp. ****** me off to no end. Get a job.
Report Post »Pegi
Posted on August 18, 2011 at 9:16amAgree!! It makes so much more sense to stop giving stuff to folks at other people’s expense. Offer them a job and if they refuse, they’re on their own. Don’t understand forever unemployment, forever food stamps, etc. These things are supposed to be a “leg up” not a way of life. These entitlements should be curtailed.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:44pmOf course he said this. He takes his marching orders from above, and it has been deemed that this fraud of a claim is the New Talking Point. Every department, sooner or layer, will mimic this without fail. These are not intelligent people, folks.
>>Last week, Press Secretary Jay Carney mad the bold — and odd — claim that unemployment checks create jobs <<
I've offered before, Blaze Staff, and I'll say it again. I have an English degree with a focus on technical and fiction writing, which included classes about editing and proofreading. If you need assistance, please feel free to drop me an email, I'd be happy to lend a hand. I don't make perfect posts, but then again my posts are not posited as final draft, proofed copy ready for publication, they're more, shall we say, off the cuff and without revision.
[Sic]"mad the bold", by the way, is the offending phrase.
Report Post »lcovar
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:12pmdon‘t read it if don’t approve it. Go somewhere else with you degree. Please!
Report Post »chazman
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 10:06pm@GHOST
… we all have degrees here. Things move pretty fast around this place sometimes. Accept the fact that folks don’t (do not) type fast, or accurately here. (see?) You have to decipher a lot of what happens on this site, but don’t go too deep. If you become frustrated, move on. Most of us are Patriots here. You know that …
Report Post »mrqstixx
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 6:15amWow, an English degree………………….I’m sure everyone here is very impressed.
Report Post »AmericablessGod
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:43pmWell, you can’t blame these dolts for trying to make lemonade from lemons. The problem is, they had a golden goose, but traded it in for a sick lemon tree. Now, they have to try to convince us the lemonade is really liquid gold!
At this pace, if 100% of us were on welfare, food stamps, or unemployment, we’d all be “employed”, right? “Employed” as paid democrat voters on the government dole. But wait…where does the government’s money come from anyway—oh yeah, the printing press!
Report Post »abbygirl1994
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:43pmI swear this whole administration is either on drugs, or has brain damage from the drugs they took in the 60′s?? This guy is nuts!
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:43pmThe twits on the left will do anything to make more zombie voters. However, some are not so easily fooled anymore; I welcome any “recovering Obamaholic” to our side. We have to make that clear while trying to reach the reachable folks.
Report Post »MBA
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:42pmHow many morons does it take to ruin a government? I don’t know, but we’re finding out in this administration.
Report Post »chfields62
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:54pmWell said……The Moron express
Report Post »RESTOREVALUES
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:36pmWhen they come out with something like this I always think of the three stooges in the row boat one guy bailing one guy drilling holes in the bottom of boat to let water out and the smart guy hitting the others
Report Post »AnAmerican111
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:42pmSo many Liberals, so little intelligence!
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:41pmStupidest administration in history. It’s like it is being run by grade school kids.
Report Post »GhostOfJefferson
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:46pmThat’s my impression as well. A group of know it all 13 year olds running around messing everything up while simultaneously sneering and picking fights with anybody who doesn’t buy their crap.
Report Post »SavingtheRepublic.com
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:58pm~~^^~~^^~~
Its absurd and biggest problem with this admin is its all book worms and professors with NO real world experience. Anyone with a slight clue knows food stamps do not create jobs.
I know what they are implying here, that one who receives that stamps will spend them at a store. The store they spend the stamps at has increased business thus needs more product (more orders from vendors) The store being busier needs to hire more people = job creations! The same domino effect is theorized through the vendors, suppliers, mfg’rs etc! See theres your job creation!
Problem is there is NO MONEY to do this b/c the govt and this nation IS BANKRUPT! Oh wait I know where they will get the money from taxing the evil rich and evil rich corporations to help the poor on food stamps! Follow kids do you see what they are setting up! http://SavingtheRepublic.com
Report Post »Bill Rowland
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:03pmYou know Jimmy Carter loves these guys!!!
Report Post »heavyduty
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:41pmI know what draws flies. The crap your spitting out.
Report Post »South Philly Boy
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:40pmWoW, I thought Unemployment Checks did THAT
Report Post »WhatsYerProblem
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:40pmIncreasing the number of people dependent on tax-paying producers like me is a stimulus to the economy? The reason they say these things is because there actually are people out there dumb enough to believe them. The sad thing is many of them vote.
Report Post »hempstead1944
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:40pmDo these folks actually believe what they are saying? You must be kidding !
Report Post »Banter
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:40pm“If what Vilsack said was true, we’d be better off seizing all income and handing out food stamps”
I’m pretty sure this is on the progressive task list, and seems to be working on schedule.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:40pmAnyone that claims that food stamps create jobs is a moron,the money that created the food stamps in the first place was the taxpayers before it was extorted from them by the current socialist regime in power.Government has no money they consume wealth they can’t create wealth,they can however create government jobs which are useless and consume wealth,get it Ballsack.
Report Post »TheRealHip
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:39pmSo it more people are on food stamps,,,,,,, then Odumo is therefore creating jobs……..
Report Post »Give me a friggin break!!
texascav
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:39pmSo food stamps create jobs? I guess all of us working people need to quit our jobs and get on food stamps so everyone will have a job in this country. ??????????????????????????? Doesn’t make any sense does it. Of course neither does this administration.
Report Post »KickinBack
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:39pmLou Dobbs said it best. If government programs can create jobs, why haven’t there been any already created?
Report Post »SonOfaCommunist
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:42pmSounds like this douche bag has watched this video too many times http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q52peCKBLLQ.
Report Post »Quarter
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:37pmBy Lou Pritchett, Procter & Gamble
A LETTER FROM A PROCTER AND GAMBLE EXECUTIVE TO THE PRESIDENT*
Lou Pritchett is one of corporate America ‘s true living legends- an acclaimed author, dynamic teacher and one of the world’s highest rated speakers. Successful corporate executives everywhere recognize him as the foremost leader in change management. Lou changed the wayAmerica does business by creating an audacious concept that came to be known as “partnering.” Pritchett rose from soap salesman to Vice-President, Sales and Customer Development for Procter and Gamble and over the course of 36 years, made corporate history.
AN OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT OBAMA
Dear President Obama:
You are the thirteenth President under whom I have lived and unlike
any of the others, you truly scare me.
You scare me because after months of exposure, I know nothing about you.
You scare me because I do not know how you paid for your expensive
Ivy League education and your upscale lifestyle and housing with no
visible signs of support.
You scare me because you did not spend the formative years of youth
growing up in America and culturally you are not an American.
You scare me because you have never run a company or met a payroll.
You scare me because you have never had military experience, thus
don’t understand it at its core.
You scare me because you lack humility and ‘class’, always blaming others.
You scare me because for over h
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:34pmWhen Obama hired geniuses like this, did he really expect to turn the economy around? Why does the media, left and right, always tell us how “brilliant” Obama is? When you make one bad decision after another, you’re NOT brilliant!
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:48pmObama and the democrats will not take the debt or spending seriously..EVER. This is why they keep repeating unemployment benefits create jobs..food stamps create jobs. They are facing their failure and they don’t know what to do. To change course is to admit the GOP was right and to alienate their far left voting base. So they keep repeating the same failed policies. OBAMA DOESN’T KNOW WHAT TO DO!!!! He surrounded himself with “professors” that live in a bubble away from the real world as his advisors. Corruptocrat Valerie Jarret is his senior advisor.
Take a look at this gem from Clyburn who was just appointed to the farcical super committee-
From Investors Business Daily:
The Congressional Black Caucus is trying to hijack the agenda of the super-committee appointed to tackle the deficit. The move confirms our fear that the panel will become an overly politicized joke.
A senior black caucus member, Democrat Rep. Jim Clyburn, announced he’s going to use his position on the 12-member supercommittee to close the growing “wealth gap” between blacks and whites. By that, he means working with the five other Democrats on the panel to raise taxes on the rich and redistribute money to poor minorities.
Report Post »Banter
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:53pmsuper panel = ameriKa
Report Post »NightWriter
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 6:41pm‘Book smart’ or ‘educated’ is not neccesarily ‘intelligent’, ‘brilliant’, or even ‘wise’.
Common sense? The 1 has none!
Report Post »pscully17
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:34pmIm on the phone right now to Vilsaks office demadning my stimulating food stamps!!!
Report Post »pscully17
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:36pm202) 720-2791 Vilsaks office at Usda Please Call and leave your name and address and state you want to bring the economy back… and request your $500/week food stamp alotment.
Report Post »pscully17
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:39pmI work for the post office, I make good money…( for Now) yet Im being compelled to quit, becuase of all the free handouts, NO TAXES, and playing the Victim seems to work for 100 million people in this country… on swecond thought, I cant quit, I will just call out sick until they fire me… i wouldnt want to leave the unemployment benefits on the table.
Report Post »kentuckypatriot
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:45pmDid you actually talk to someone or did you leave a message?
Report Post »Hollywood
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 4:12pm500.00 a WEEK??!! REALLY?
Report Post »I am going to emigrate to the U.S.
fatsomann
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:33pmDoes this administration say this stuff just to piss us all off and wonder what planet these dupes have come from? These guys have got real growth confused with stagnation.
Report Post »kentuckypatriot
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:42pmAll the GOP needs to do is run these “ talking points ” in ads over and over to prove to the public what nit wits they are.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:18pmBINGO!!!! Get the footage of Jay Carney and this Vilsack buffoon, put together an ad and air it in every state Obama takes his “this isn’t a campaign tour”-campaign tour to. Dog him with it, keep making him explain himself and his failed policies.
Report Post »Hollywood
Posted on August 17, 2011 at 4:07pm4 billion $ per day adding to debt. 115 Trillion in unfunded liabilities,about says it all. Sayonora U.S.A.,and worlds economy
Report Post »CaptDick
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:33pmPelosi says unemployment checks create jobs and now the ag sec says food stamps are a job creator?….hummm seems to be theme from the progressives. I have an idea, throw all your trash out the window of your car on the freeway. That will create jobs for people to pick it up. Oh and don’t forget Fareed Zakharia. He says it is employing people productively to pay them to dig a ditch and then pay them to fill it in. Genius!
Report Post »loriann12
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:39pmI think he’s thinking of the WPA from depression times (but we aren’t in a depression, right?) Except that they didn’t pay one to dig and ditch and then fill it in. They repaired roads, built out-houses for schools (before indoor plumbing), etc. My grandpa split a job with another guy. He worked half the day and another man came in and relieved him. That way they both got some employment. The problem today is all these assistance programs take the shame out of depending on the government. it’s become bragging rights. Look what I can scam the government out of.
Report Post »GardenoftheGods
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:53pmMy Mom used to work at Walt Disney World and everytime we took the kids for the day, if one of them dropped something on the ground, she’d tell them to leave it there because “it’s job security”. That kind of thinking ****** me off! You better believe they were made to pick up whatever they dropped because hubby & I believe you clean up after yourself & don’t make more work for anyone! Need I tell you Mom’s previous job was being a Union Organizer for 1199 (now SEIU). How fitting, huh?
Report Post »Poogie
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:32pmOh good grief!
Report Post »SREGN
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:29pmThe lunatics are running the asylum.
Report Post »pscully17
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:30pmyou knwo what else creates jobs? FIRING EVERY ONE OF YOU IN THE ADMIN!!!!! RESIGN IMMEDIATELY!!!!
Report Post »Dustyluv
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:34pmBIzzarro world has taken over for sure. What utter fools these people are. UNBELIEVEABLE!
Report Post »SREGN
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 4:02pmMaybe the convoluted logic is that for every $1.84 that‘s forcibly removed from the taxpayer that earned it’s pocket, only $1 in actual food stamps gets given to a lazy person. The other 84 cents goes to a bureaucrat.
Report Post »AlansTigg
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:28pmI wonder how may of the morons out there are believing this new logic
Report Post »HADEN0UGH
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:31pmMostly the ones on welfare and receiving food stamps.
Report Post »pscully17
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:38pmNo, its the ones RAnting every second of the day to Raise the TAXES on the other people, so they can eat like kings and then justify their hobo-ness by saying look, dont villify us, we’re ( say it with me ) STIMULATING THE ECONOMY!!!
Report Post »Roberto G. Vasquez
Posted on August 16, 2011 at 3:38pmHow many morons believe nonsense? All of them.
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