Obama’s Progressive Pastor Offers Church as Sanctuary to Occupy Protesters
- Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:07pm by
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“It’s time to invite the Occupy Movement to church,” or at least according to pastor Jim Wallis it is. You might recall Wallis — a member of President Barack Obama’s faith council and founder of Sojourners ministry. He is also reportedly a spiritual adviser to Obama.
Now, Wallis is also opening the doors to his parish, offering sanctuary to Occupy protesters, while at the same time encouraging other churches across the country to do the same. According to KleinOnline, Wallis suggested that Thanksgiving is the “perfect occasion” for churches to reach out and offer Occupiers shelter.
Wallis used his church’s magazine as a platform to call for a “church sanctuary for the Occupy movement.” KO adds:
Wallis was appointed in February 2009 to the Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships, a White House group replete with advocates for using religion to advance “social justice.”
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“Open our church basements and parish halls as safe places to sleep — shelter and sanctuary as cold weather descends upon many of our cities,” he wrote.
“The Occupy movement needs a sanctuary. And what better safe and welcome place could these young people find than with communities of faith?”
Given reports of Occupiers defecating and urinating both in and on churches across the globe — even using the carpet of St. Paul’s Cathedral as a “latrine” — would the Occupiers really take kindly to being given shelter in houses of worship? Or would the move instead provide vandals easy access to the structures they seek to defile?
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Comments (264)
asmurff
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:49pmObama goes to church? Who is his imam?
Report Post »db321
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:59pmYea, but the big question should be – would this Pastor let Jesus in his Church?
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 7:07pmWickedness will call Jesus evil just as it did 2000 years ago. And the really interesting thing is that eventually when Jesus comes again after Gog and Magog are gone, that Christ’s name will not be Jesus, but a new name.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 7:07pmThey are dancing with the Devil. That church is not a holy place.
Report Post »truckinwife
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 7:08pmThis is no pastor more like a pretend pastor if any…. No respecting pastor would let this rabble into their church. But then again, at this time an honest pastor is few and far between, as we have given ourselves over to the feel good gospel.
Report Post »NHwinter
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 7:11pmThe three people in the picture will not be laughing and clapping when they stand before God.
Report Post »someonewhocares
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 7:11pmWho would let them in?
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Report Post »NWWADD
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 7:26pmBelieve and be saved
Sojourners ministry Said,
Believe and be saved
and rise from HELL.
The preacher retired
to his spacious new home,
In his humble Mercedes
with everything chrome.
He sat in his study,
his thoughts running deep,
He dozed for a moment,
and died in his sleep.
He ran to Saint Peter
and wearing a grin,
Said “I believe in the Savior,
so please let me in”
“Oh no, not another”,
said Peter with a sigh,
the tolls running high.”
Believing is nothing,
if nothing is done.
In getting to Heaven
you follow the Son.
To follow a leader,
you do what is said,
Faith without works
is nothing but dead.
Satan knows Jesus,
Report Post »believes in him too.
So what’s the difference
between Satan and You?
Jay Belles
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 7:29pmThese types of heresies have been around a long time; Cathars, etc. terrorized Europe from the 1100s to the 1600s or so.
Report Post »sissykatz
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 7:53pmI find this absolutely amazing…. He is offering a place for people WITH homes
a place to be so they can WILLINGLY STAND IN THE COLD. Where is his
humanity when it comes to the REAL HOMELESS????
I will be helping FEED THE HOMELESS AND THE ELDERLY and I am sure
some of you are also. While this MAN OF THE DEVIL IS FURNISHING THE
COMMUNIST OCCUPIERS A PLACE TO STAY??? DEFIES LOGIC
I would tell them to go to Chicago. There is a very nice large empty home there
Report Post »they can stay in. We all are paying for it’s owner to be in Hawaii now and LORD
ONLY KNOWS WHERE WE WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR HIM AND MOOCHELL
TO GO NEXT…..
The10thAmendment
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 7:59pmIf people want to see how this entire movement of merging seemingly disassociated entities together happened. This is a slightly older article, but it will give you the basis to begin understanding how and why they link arms.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=26913
Report Post »Grey Eagle
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 8:49pmMaybe these occupiers will poop on the floor like they did a Police car. These people show NO respect not only for people trying to work, business, EMS, Fire or the Police.
Report Post »thegrassroots
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 8:53pmWell of course he’s supporting the endeavors of the Community-Riot-Organizer-In-Chief! Sheeeeesh!
If the dum liberal media would shut off their cameras and just not show up, BHO’s flea-baggers would all crawl back under their rocks.
Report Post »JESUS-IS-LORD
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 9:16pmNow that’s a creepy picture.
Report Post »wellhangingchad
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 9:29pmHe may regret letting them in after they dedicate on his altar and trash the place.
Report Post »dealer@678
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 10:36pmThe pastor has evil written all over his face. Can anyone else see it
Report Post »PastorRob83
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 11:08pmI am amazed at the behavior and the comments of some here. Many of us may disapprove or intensely disapprove of President Obama’s positions and policies, but he IS a professing Christian, not a follower of Islam. I would think by now the snide comments based on false rumor mongering would have stopped and that people could certainly offer more intelligent criticism.
I also would challenge the notion that The Rev. Jim Wallis is a “progressive pastor” in the sense that of us who are in the ministry would define. Theologically, Rev. Wallis is in the “evangelical” movement and he graduated from a respected conservative, evangelical seminary, Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Illinois. This seminary, unlike where I attended (and disliked immensely), is not known as a baton of liberal thought. Wallis, himself, is a “progressive evangelical” in the sense that he shares and affirms faith that most of us identify as “Biblically based evangelical”. It is his interpretation of how Christ calls Christians to live that evangelical faith that inspires Pastor Wallis to support “progressive” social causes and “progressive” social action. While he gets a great deal of support on the “religious left” for his support of Christian social activism, his personal faith is much more aligned with principles held by “American evangelicals” than by many religious leaders on the “religious left”.
Report Post »100 Million Patriots Standing
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 11:28pm“Wallis suggested that Thanksgiving is the “perfect occasion” for churches to reach out and offer Occupiers shelter.”
Why would Marxist celebrate Thanksgiving?
Report Post »artistskeptic
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 12:16amMay Odumba, his current “pastor” and his previous “pastor” soon burn in hell. These people are not American they are global communists who have no concern about the individual.
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 2:02am@PASTOR ROB
I am amazed at the behavior and the comments of some here.
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We, in turn, are NOT amazed at your lack of cogent reasoning:
==> While he gets a great deal of support on the “religious left” for his support of Christian social activism, his personal faith is much more aligned with principles held by “American evangelicals” than by many religious leaders on the “religious left”.
Huh? Let me try to decipher this. The left loves him because the guy believes in “Christian social activism,” but, deep down, he really believes like any “American evangelical” — so the left should hate him and we should love him, right?
Who are you, a non-American, non-evangelical pastor?
Social and economic justice. *That’s* Wallis’ thing, and it has nothing to do with Jesus or his followers.
http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-advisor-jim-wallis-explores-wealth-marxism-social-justice/
Report Post »GETLIFE
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 5:45amGee, there must be all kinds of ways of funneling money to them through the church….
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 6:12am@ PastorRob83
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 11:08pm
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Rob? Rob Bell, is that you. You speak nonsense Rob. While Wallis did in fact attend Trinity, he was also a member of the radical hate group, SDS (Students for a Democratic Society), which was and is a Marxist organization embedded in public higher education.
Wallis has been a Marxist every day of his worthless life. He, like his filth ridden god, Dorothy Day, can, and will rot in the Lake of Fire.
Report Post »neocon1
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 8:02amDB
NO
Report Post »he was KICKED out a looong time ago.
we already have a OWS regime occupying the white painted house, why not this “church” as well?
lillymckim
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 8:37amMy prayer is “I hope he does and I hope they never leave”.
Report Post »Secret Squirrel
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 8:52am.
Report Post »If you go to that church, be careful where you step.
ozchambers
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 9:42amSpiritually, metaphorically and now literally…. YOUR CHURCH STINKS!
Report Post »Clara88
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 11:00amWe are currently a lawless nation.
P e t i t i o n…to indict Eric Holder
Report Post »http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=347605
4truth2all
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 12:20pmYo Pastor Rob:
If this “pastor” opens his door with the intent of helping those less fortunate and in need of a meal and a shower, and preaches Chirst … then he follows the example OF CHRIST…. if he does other……..
As far as Obama…. you don’t get into paradise by using a SELF sticking name tag that says… HELLO… I’m a Christian.
Nothing he says or does inclines me to see fruit on the tree. I judge his actions and his words,,, NOT his heart.
Report Post »I have no doubt that God has “allowed” him to be president for the purposes of the LORD, and yes much of that is directed at His people because or OUR hard heartedness.
The10thAmendment
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 12:55pmJust for Pastor Rob, declaring that Wallis’ position was not progressive (techno marxism).
—-”During his time at theological college, Wallis founded an anti-capitalism magazine called the Post-American which identified wealth redistribution and government-managed economies as the keys to achieving “social justice.” In 1971 Wallis founded the People’s Christian Coalition in Chicago as a network of “PROGRESSIVE” Christians.—-”
Report Post »OneCitizenOfTheRepublic
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 1:17pmThe evil of those so-called ministers who dispense “Cheap Grace”…Read “Cost of Discipleship” by Dietrich Bonhoeffer
Report Post »“Silence in the face of evil is itself evil:
God will not hold us guiltless.
Not to speak is to speak.
Not to act is to act.”
Dietrich Bonhoeffer
TXVET48
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 2:27pmThe 12th Imam.
Report Post »PastorRob83
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 2:53pm@ Kryptonite,
You ask if I am a “non-American, non-evengelical” pastor. No. I’m an American pastor, former Professor, member of the media and former Republican politician. While I share many views in common with many who identify as “evangelical” — for example the divinity of Christ, the need for a personal relationship with Jesus as Lord and Personal Savior, etc., I am not a biblical Literalist (biblical fundamentalist) in that I use modern Biblical scholarship in my teaching, writing and study. Many of my original seminary professors had studied directly under Rudolf Bultmann so I was trained in the use of “form criticism”, “literary criticism” and “historical criticism” in Biblical exegesis. My studies in the Hebrew Scriptures were under professors influenced by the work of Julius Wellhausen, the German scholar of the Hebrew Scriptures.
My own faith is much more akin to many of the “evangelical” conclusions than these professors and I do affirm that the Bible is true but not necessarily historical in all passages and contexts. This puts me outside of the “American evangelical” understanding even if my conclusions about the message and meaning are fairly close to what an identified “American evangelical” might affirm.
Report Post »PastorRob83
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 2:54pm@ The10thAmendment:
I am NOT Rob Bell…whoever he is.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 4:18pm@ PastorRob83
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 2:54pm
@ The10thAmendment:
I am NOT Rob Bell…whoever he is.
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You claim to be a Pastor who shares many views with Evangelicals, and you don’t know who Rob Bell is? I think you’re hedging, if not outright deflecting.
smithclar3nc3
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 4:18pmThe occupiers keep harassing kids going to school and even church sanctuary won’t be able to protect them.
Report Post »1389AD
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 7:17pm@wellhangingchad,
I think you meant “defecate” on the altar, not “dedicate.”
And yes, they certainly would defile the place.
It‘s a pastor’s responsibility to make sure that sacred places and objects are treated with respect.
Report Post »triumph4
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 7:42pmthis sounds politically correct.
Report Post »Methodist_Pastor_Serving_Christ
Posted on November 19, 2011 at 4:59pmThat sir is a low blow and slanderous! Your president was raised by white, Christian parents and as an adult professed his faith as a Christian publicly and openly. Those “experts” who made the rounds on American right-wing radio to “present evidence” showing that your President was secretly a Muslim (and often promote their books or speaking tours) have been discredited.
Simply because you dislike a person (even a politician, such as your President) does not mean that the person isn’t a Christian with a personally saving relationship with Jesus Christ.
Report Post »4truth2all
Posted on November 20, 2011 at 12:37pmYo Pastor serving Christ:
Report Post »In the event that you are addressing me…. you do not say…. I personally never said that Obama was NOT a christian in his heart before the Lord… not my call.
I do believe you have some of your “facts” wrong.
I also do not believe everything I hear. What I believe is from his own actions and words.
No, I do not like him, No, I do not hate him. Yes, I pray for him.
Careful that you do not judge, because IF you were addressing me you are in correct.
jc4poor
Posted on November 26, 2011 at 6:32pmNot everyone who is involved in occupy wall street is a socialist or commie. That is pure propaganda. The far right wing is just is becoming just as corrupt as the communists you are told to fear every day. Is that why are so many of you so hateful toward Obama and Wallis? How do you know what is in their hearts? The Bible says the Christians may be decieved. “Even the elect.“ Also their would be a ”strong delusion..” Do you just get your information from people like Beck who are working for the corporate cult? The people he works for are not Christian they are brainwashing Christians. The multinational corporations are destroying America in front of our eyes and they have you all believeing the communists are doing it. Wow what a great scam so many of you are falling for. I am neither commie nor for the corporate cult. The Republican leadership has become a corporate cult. They speak of God and Christ, but their real gods are money and power. Quit drinking that kool-aid, I mean Tea party tea..
Report Post »jaswalt
Posted on November 28, 2011 at 1:02am@Pastorrob… Yeah, Obama is a professing Christian, I’ll gladly give him that title. But you forget where he got his Christianity. Rev Jeremiah Wright–the most UN-Christian person to ever dupe a cngregation, and NOT where you would get a a “Christian education and understanding.” Wright was Obama‘s mentor and if that’s the type of “Christianity” that he taught Obama, Obama is no more Christian than that stupid bed post I stub my toes on every time I get up at night to go to the bathroom. Obama can profress it all he wants, but where you spend 20 years going to church shouts NON-CHRISTIAN.
Report Post »MastrSSG
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:48pmWasn’t Jim Jones a Progressive minister?
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:57pmand a Kool-aid salesman just like Obama
Report Post »mlcblog
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 7:03pmJim Jones was a looney tunes but Jim Wallis is a dripping commie.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 9:45pmI would hide the valuables , the wine, and the alter boys……
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 1:10pmYes, Jim Jones was a Progressive Preacher. No surprise knowing that Jones built his perversion of Christianity in San Fransisco. He was also a radical Socialist POS.
Anyone who wants to read an insightful book concerning Jones and his hypnotic socialist/progressive diatribe pick up “A THOUSAND LIVES” by Julia Scheeres.
In it you will discover the psychological gerrymandering of unsuspecting minds of people who tend to be weak in faith and spiritually dead. It shows the draw of the radical progressive agenda and the methods to “get the masses” to commit suicide collectively. No different than what Wallis is doing with this Occupy idiots movement, and propelling them from his New York City center. To communists like Wallis, lives must be sacrificed to achieve the replacement theology goals. Useful idiots is, and has always been the Marxists way.
Report Post »pamela kay
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 4:25pmYes he was. Hmmmmm, coincedence? Hardly. The progressives have made a deal with the devil that has been passed on for years. Do not underestimate the power of the insanity and hatred that they exude into society. We have witnessed this in the past and will continue to be exposed to it . Good and evil have been at war since the begining of time. The importance of faith and morals can not be denied. It is your path to choose . For the trolls who spew the rhetoric of the progressive agenda, I feel sorry for you. And, I will continue to pray for you even though I struggle with it.
Report Post »The10thAmendment
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 4:50pm@ pamela kay
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 4:25pm
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Very well stated Pamela.
Nope, there is no surprise that the weak minded, and weak spirited would cling to that watered down anti-Christ message (Wormwood) that progressive “preachers” peddle.
We know that Wormwood does what? Kills those who drink it. Jim Jones did physically exactly what his message to his deceived people through the spiritual poison did to their souls. He delivered them to a 2 fold death. Just like progressive messages through anti-Christ preachers like Wallis is doing with these occupy useful idiots.
Their message is contrary to every moral lesson taught by Jesus, and it’s inclusion doctrine of tolerance exposes them for exactly the anti-Christs they are. We KNOW that Christ called us out to be a separate people. A people who will not be blown about by every wind of doctrine of false teaching. We hold fast our first love, and don’t compromise the Truth for social acceptance.
Report Post »Crusty Thong
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:44pmLet them come into his church. They can p00p all over his church. P00p on that pastor while they are at it!!
Report Post »ENTP
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:44pmHow fitting… we always knew his “church” was a privy…. will he hand out free toilet paper when they are through taking a dump inside? Remember in the bible people who worshiped false gods,their places of worship were turned into a privy? (2Ki 10:18-28)
Report Post »antiencenom
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 7:09pmNow there ‘s a picture of the first three traitors to be arrested
Report Post »1389AD
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 7:21pmFree toilet paper? They can borrow some from the White House, the stuff that has the Constitution printed all over it.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:43pmJim Wallis is a pied piper, playing the songs of misplaced compassion and leading many astray from the truth.
Jim – there is no such thing as “collective salvation”.
Report Post »Jim – the kingdom of God is a Theocratic Monarchy NOT communism or marxism.
Jim – position and rewards in the KIngdom will be given based on MERIT, not on making everyone equal.
Jim – The CHURCH is awake and aware of your lies and tactics.
Jim – America may embrace the poor and downtrodden, but it will NEVER EMBRACE COMMUNISM.
trouthunter
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:47pmNicely said.
Report Post »Marine_Spouse
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:54pmSo true!
Report Post »ZAP
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 7:01pmhe is an anti-Christ.The true definition of one
Report Post »FSM_47
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 7:04pmgreat response
Report Post »PastorRob83
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 11:42pmJesus (Matt. 25:31-45):
31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of th
Report Post »PastorRob83
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 11:55pmMy Scripture quote ran out of space, but here’s a link to The New International Version: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2025:31-46&version=NIV .
To comment that Pastor Wallis is supporting “communism” is just plain false. Liberation theology, which was in vogue at many liberal seminaries years ago (including mine) is deeply flawed, but Rev. Wallis motivations come directly out of his deeply held Biblical, evangelical faith. You slander the man to assert otherwise even though you may strongly disagree with his suggestions or assertions.
Like Todd Agnew said in one of his songs, he doubts Jesus would be welcome in his congregation because the blood from his wounds might stain the carpet. I dare say that Jesus might have more problem with the judgement many spout on blogs and in comments both here and on popular talk-radio or cable television.
There is often an underlying judgement of those who are on the lower socioeconomic scale which simply does not reflect the teachings of Jesus no matter how one tries to justify this. Aside from the support of the unborn, I’m not sure that Jesus would see much in the policies and agenda of the “religious and political right” which reflect His teachings. That is probably also true of the agenda and policies of the “religious and political left” which also often distorts Jesus’ teachings to defend particular agendas. Both are wrong and do not properly reflect the Christian faith.
Pastor Rob
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 1:04am@ PastorRob83
YOU SAID: “To comment that Pastor Wallis is supporting “communism” is just plain false.”
REALLY? Jim Wallis has had relationships with the communist Committee in Solidarity with the People of El Salvador (CISPES). Wallis, together with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright (Obama’s former pastor of 20 years) “rallied support for the communist Nicaraguan regime and protested actions by the United States which supported the anti-communist Contra rebels” (Family World News, February 2009, p. 7). Sojourners formed a commune in the Washington, D.C., neighborhood of Southern Columbia Heights, where members shared their finances and participated in various activist campaigns that centered on attacking the U.S. foreign policy, denouncing American ‘imperialism,’ and extolling Marxist revolutionary movements in the Third World.
Also, Jim Wallis said, “I don’t know how else to express the quiet emotion that rushed through me when the news reports showed that the United States had finally been defeated in Vietnam” (Ronald H. Nash, “Why The Left Is Not Right,” p. 58). In his own publication Wallis wrote: “Many of today’s [Vietnamese] refugees were inoculated with a taste for a Western lifestyle during the war and are fleeing to support their consumer habit in other lands” (Sojourners, September 1979).
Wallis founded an anti-capitalist magazine called, The Post-American, in which he called for the redistribution of wealth and an economy managed by
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 1:08am.con’t:
the government.
While charity and generousity are commanded to believers in Scripture, it is ALWAYS in an INDIVIDUAL sense. NOWHERE in Scripture does it say that charity means “government redistribution”.
It DOES however, say this: Exodus 20:17 “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that [is] thy neighbour’s.”
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 1:21am@ PastorRob83:
1. Jim Wallis IS a supporter of communists and communist ideas. To say otherwise means you are either uninformed or a liar.
2. The passage you quote of Jesus from the Gospel of Matthew MAKES MY POINT. Self-sacrifice, Generosity, Charity & Compassion are all named here by Jesus as traits of INDIVIDUALS. Jesus here is basically saying: “YOU Cared enough as an individual to take time out of your schedule and money out of your wallet and food off of your table to care for someone else. That means so much, it’s as if you did it for me personally.”
NOTE that what Jesus is NOT saying is: “you created a government institution which forcibly taxed your society and redistributed the money to assist others.”
WHY did Jesus NOT say that?
1. Because Jesus didn’t come to save a GOVERNMENT, He came to save INDIVIDUALS.
Report Post »2. Because CHARITY by definition, must be willing, from the heart, freely given, NOT forced by a law.
3. Because believers in Jesus will be rewarded NOT for creating a a social system, but for INDIVUAL actions: Please read Matthew 25:14-30; Luke 19:12-28
kryptonite
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 2:42amHey, Pastor Rob (name fits),
When the devil quoted Scripture out of context, Jesus replied with Holy Spirit fire. So here’s for you:
==> “A man of noble birth… called ten of his servants and gave them ten minas. ‘Put this money to work,’ he said, ‘until I come back.’… He… returned home. Then he sent for the servants… in order to find out what they had gained with it. The first one came and said, ‘Sir, your mina has earned ten more.’ ‘Well done, my good servant!’ his master replied. ‘Because you have been trustworthy in a very small matter, take charge of ten cities.’ The second came and said, ‘Sir, your mina has earned five more.’ His master answered, ‘You take charge of five cities.’ Then another servant came and said, ‘Sir, here is your mina; I have kept it laid away in a piece of cloth. I was afraid of you, because you are a hard man. You take out what you did not put in and reap what you did not sow.’ His master replied,…’Why then didn’t you put my money on deposit, so that when I came back, I could have collected it with interest?’ Then he said to those standing by, ‘Take his mina away from him and give it to the one who has ten minas.’ ‘Sir,’ they said, ‘he already has ten!’ He replied, ‘I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given, but as for those who have nothing, even what they have will be taken away.” (Luke 19:12-26)
Report Post »kryptonite
Posted on November 18, 2011 at 2:56am(CONT.)
Q: Why did the master reward one of the faithful servants with ten cities, while the other faithful servant only got five?
A: Because one produced more with what he got than the other one.
Q.: Why didn’ t the master redistribute the wealth of the unfaithful servant between the two faithful servants?
Report Post »A: Because the master is not a Marxist. He rewards based on merit. The more you produce, the more will be added onto you. END OF STORY.
Methodist_Pastor_Serving_Christ
Posted on November 19, 2011 at 5:14pmYou Americans who listen to your popular political talk-show entertainers seem to LOVE easy definitions and resort to emotional name calling when you disapprove of someone’s position. Many of you posting here profess Christian faith, yet you do not apparently see the irony in your name calling and over-the-top pronouncements about your President, Pastor Jim Wallis and members of the ‘Occupy’ movement.
I should not be surprised. You are Americans after all and apparently do not really practise the teachings of Jesus who calls for compassion, respect and love even for your ‘enemies’. I do not see any of that here. You should all be ashamed of yourselves, but you will be responsible to God for your views, judgmental attitudes towards others and your self-righteousness.
I pray that you experience sanctifying grace and seek to live in perfect holiness which means that you would have no room on your hearts for hatred and judgement of anyone.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on November 19, 2011 at 10:27pm@ Methodist_Pastor_Serving_Christ
1. More than once you use the phrase “you Americans”, so I’ll assume here that you hail from a country where socialism has already crept into every nook and cranny of society – including the church. Here in America, a society was created where the government was intentionally divided and limited so that people would be FREE to live and to worship as their conscience dictated. It was founded on the New Testament concept that ALL believers form a nation of priests and kings (1 Peter 2:9 & Revelation 5:10) and need no dictator, king or State to order our every move. So as you are a non-American, please understand that we are ALL watchmen of our God-given Liberty. (Galatians 5:1)
Report Post »2. You posted your accusation under MY post, so I’m assuming you level your comments at me. I note, however, that you do not acknowledge that I posted FACTS and QUOTES regarding Jim Wallis. NOR do you offer any rebuttal, facts or quotes to disprove them.
3. Specifically, you have accused me of “emotional name-calling” & “over-the-top pronouncements”. YET IN THE VERY SAME POST, you condemn ALL American Christians as people who “do not really practise the teachings of Jesus who calls for compassion, respect and love” & “judgmental attitudes towards others and your self-righteousness.” MAY I POINT OUT that you have done the very thing you came here to accuse others of? Please provide evidence that American Christians are as you describe?
TH30PH1LUS
Posted on November 19, 2011 at 10:46pm@ Methodist_Pastor_Serving_Christ (con’t.)
As if I needed to prove that American Christians were ALREADY the most generous people on the planet http://www.amazon.com/Who-Really-Cares-Compasionate-Conservatism/dp/0465008216
May I remind you of the Parable of the Ten Virgins? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Ten_Virgins
The foolish ones said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil; our lamps are going out.’ “‘No,’ they replied, ‘there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.’
Interesting that Jesus calls many believers “foolish” because (1) they not only did not make sure they could make it on their own, but (2) when faced with a shortage because of their poor planning, they suddenly became Occupy Wall Street protestors, DEMANDING a “redistribution” of wealth. The fools were suddenly transformed into Communists – even though they were believers. They tried to play on the compassion of the other Virgins – whom Jesus calls “wise”. The FOOLS were rejected – not only by the other Virgins, but by the Bridegroom Himself. Think about it.
Regarding Jim Wallis, I remind you that Paul says “God will judge those outside the Church, but believers are to judge what goes on inside the church” 1 Corinthians 5:12-13. Jim has cloaked himself in “compassion”, but underneath he is a communist and one who warps the Scripture by taking our personal obligations and making them Governmen
Report Post »Bronco II
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:35pmThe scripture talks of the Synagog of Satan where false doctrine is taught and he speaks of those of his children who will be delivered up to him and the Holy Spirit will speak thru them.The scripture says delivered up to death but must know DEATH is one of many names for Satan.Christ died on the cross to defeat Death.If you are one of them you are not to have any forthought of what YOU would say to satan your to let the Holy Spirit speak thru you if you refuse the Holy Spirit THAT IS THE UNPARDONABLE SIN. It’s in GODS WORD have you read it and studied what will come in the end times.The signs are all around us those who have eyes to see let them see and let them who have ears to hear let them hear SPIRITUALLY SPEAKING. YOUR SPIRITUAL EYES AND EARS.
Report Post »motonutt
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:40pmLooks like obama is grabbing his ass…..and Hilary is laughing about it.
Report Post »trouthunter
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:32pmEvil begets evil….a house divided cannot stand….no wonder he’s taking them in. We better start orgainizing our house folks and like Glenn says, choose sides and then stand with each other. This guy totally creeps me out. Did anyone else notice that the clip Glenn uses all the time of Wallis “Absolutely, without hesitation…” that one, sounds just like Sandusky did in his interview with Costas??? CREEPY!
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:37pmI’d say we are pretty close to rapture since the abomination of Desolation began in 1970.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:41pm1970 is when they began the pillaging of the Proverbial “Women” and daughters spoken of in the Bible, that be the same as raping the people of their spirit.
Report Post »trouthunter
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:46pmI would agree…in my gut, it’s felt close for about the past 4 years or so.
Report Post »HKS
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:48pmI would say that the term “church” is used very, very loosely in America.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:52pmI definitely agree, and the labor pains are getting way more intense, but still we haven’t seen nothing yet.
Report Post »Eliasim
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:56pmThe term church has been used loosely for the longest time, because a true church is the temple of the heart and mind and isn’t made by earthly hands.
Report Post »Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:31pmGlad I do not have to clean up that mess!
Report Post »lel2007
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:28pmPastor Offers “Church” as Sanctuary to Occupy Protesters ?? – This will be entertaining. This article’s accompanying photo says it all.
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:33pmAnd the instant one of those protesters is found to be wanted, arrest the pastor as well for aiding and abetting criminals.
Report Post »NOBAMA201258
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:34pmHope they have enough toilets for the whole “movement”!
Report Post »TheLeftMadeMeRight
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:28pmObama’s chickens, are coming home to roost…
Report Post »1casawizard
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:27pmNothing wrong with churches letting these protesters in, that’s their business. It‘s not the protesters that’s the problem. It’s the instigators like van jones who is using taxpayer money to provide $5K laptops and other goodies to keep them motivated. Hell, if barry gets four mo years we’ll be needing shelter too as winter will be coming on in nov 2012.
Report Post »JohnK144
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:27pmInfiltration on every level. But God will hold you accountable, Jim Wallace, for your attempted infiltration of the Faith of Jesus Christ.
Report Post »garbagecanlogic
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:26pmLet him support them for a while, George Soros, Van Jones and Barry have supported them long enough.
The U.S. Out Of The U.N.
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coyotecanyon
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 10:00pmI wonder if the trigger legislation to stop U.S. money, 80,000,000 will be illegally blocked by Obamao to send the money to the most corrupt, worthless, dangerous entity on earth. God Bless Isreal. God Bless America.
Report Post »tbarr4
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:25pmArrest Jim Wallis, Van Jones, Granny Piven, Fat Boy Moore, Bill Maher, Jon Stewart, Sharpton, Pelosi, Reed, Now!!!
Report Post »sndrman
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:36pmthe list is actually longer most all in hollywood commie’s unions and unions and so on. this is a deep rooted problem. we slept while these progressives waited for their chance and obama was and is it
Report Post »qpwillie
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:25pmAs I was watching the live feed a short while ago, they had a group of little children down there, right in the middle of the whole mess, chanting their socialist BS. The children looked to be about 9 or 10 years old.
Report Post »JohnK144
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:30pmYes. And as far as I’m concerned, we should not call him Jim Wallis. We should call him “Jim Sandusky, because what he is attempting to do is no less perverse.
Report Post »undercover
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:25pmWallis suggested that Thanksgiving is the “perfect occasion” for churches to reach out and offer Occupiers shelter.
WHAT? These are the most thankless individuals in the world!
Report Post »Ookspay
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:25pmTypical progressive, giving away what isn’t his to give. Why doesn’t he let them stay in his private residence?
Report Post »JohnK144
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:33pmBecause he couldn’t stand the smell.
Report Post »Rational Man
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:25pmThats a good thing. They can deficate and urinate there and trash that place. Instead of public places and private businesses. Too bad the “church” can’t hold them all.
Report Post »Sounds like an opportunity for more indoctrination of the “huddled masses”. The gospel of Obama.
qzak491
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:24pmLet’s see how long that lasts when they start dumping on his carpet and destroying things. These “things” aint house broke, leave them outside or in a barn somewhere. If they are going to act like animals treat them like animals. There is no excuse for what they do. Job or no job, you don’t have to act like pigs.
Report Post »garyM
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:21pmI’ve heard any religion who worship any false god can join Rev Wrights church, even muslims, the protesters should fit right in!
Report Post »Kankokage
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:20pmThis man terrifies me. His is apparently the only politically-correct religion, yet I have absolutely no idea what his religion believes in. All I ever hear him preach is government, hatred for conservatism, and socialism. Or, maybe, Sojourners is actually front for The Super Adventure Club. In fact, I’m willing to bet on it.
Report Post »PATRIOTGRUNT
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:19pmMaybee they can sh___t on his alter ond “ The One ” can be his Motivational Speaker on Sundays.
Report Post »RIGHTHOOK
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:19pmSo Obama’s “Progressive Pastor” is supporting N-17. Nice! What a complete and total surprise.
Report Post »He’s not “exactly” Progressive, he is a terrorist sympathizer, aka Communist.
jimay
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:14pmFirst United Church of O-ba-ma-ville is formed!
Report Post »Daily worship of one’s free will, leading to a life of no regrets and no accomplishments…
CatB
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:26pmThink they will poop on the altar of this church like they have in the others? These people don’t seem to be house “church” broke. My dog is .. but these animals are not!
TEA!
Report Post »TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on November 17, 2011 at 6:11pmWallis can have ‘em. Let the commie take in some more commies. Enjoy yourselves.
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