Occupy Oakland Prevents City Vote on Weapons Ban by Disrupting Mtg: ‘I Could…Kill You With a F***ing Pencil’
- Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:00pm by
Jason Howerton
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A small group of Occupy Oakland protesters smash windows at a Wells Fargo bank branch on Wednesday, Nov. 2, 2011, in Oakland, Calif. (AP Photo/Noah Berger)
In typical Occupy fashion, members of Occupy Oakland successfully disrupted a meeting where city officials were considering an ordinance that would have banned demonstrators from using weapons such as clubs, hammers and shields.
During the meeting, demonstrators cursed, yelled and made statements that could easily be perceived as threats against city leaders.
Occupy protesters were reportedly concerned that a weapons ban would leave them defenseless against police violence. Local police were eventually forced to clear the City Council’s public safety committee meeting, effectively preventing a vote on the measure. Three votes were needed to bring it before the full Oakland City Council.
The Oakland Tribune witnessed the mayhem:
While members of the group have disrupted previous City Council meetings, Occupiers were especially hostile during Tuesday’s Public Safety Committee.
Several members cursed at Councilmember Pat Kernighan , the committee chairwoman and sponsor of the proposed ordinance. Others hinted at violence if the measure ultimately was approved.
“I want to tell you Pat Kernighan that I could walk up to you and kill you with a F_ pencil. Are you going to outlaw pencils?” asked an Occupy member who goes only by the name Stephanie.
Occupy Oakland videographer and member Jessica Hollie warned near the end of an expletive-laden speech, “If you take away our shield, the only thing left is our second amendment right.”
But apparently the meeting got out of control after a final speaker began speaking critically of Occupy Oakland. The speaker argued that it was unfair that citizens have to put up with the “unruly” behavior that borders on “terrorism,” according to The Oakland Tribune. At this, Occupy protesters began mocking and shouting him down.
Despite the toxic environment, law enforcement was reportedly able to clear the meeting without incident.
File photo: Occupy Oakland protesters stage riots (AP)
However, Occupy Oakland was not without support from city council members. Councilwoman Nancy Nadel said she would have voted down the proposed weapons ban and that an additional council member wanted to alter the ordinance.
“The most hurtful, violent behavior against people has been done by police,” Nadel told The Oakland Tribune.
Councilmembers Nadel, Kernighan and Larry Reid could not be reached for comment.
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Comments (95)
JJ47
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 3:20pmForget the Mexican border. Close the border to California. The ******** are far more dangerous to a free republic than migrant workers. Deport ******** back to rhe Socialist State of California.
Report Post »getalong
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 8:45pm“The most hurtfull, violent behavior against people have been done by poliice”, states Councilmember Nadel. That to me sounds like she favors anarchy. Police are being hit with bottles, rocks, etc., and that is okay with Nadel. If the Oakland city council promotes anarchy than that city is doomed. I am just wondering, how much time has Nadel and her socialist co-horts on the city council spent hanging out with those peaceful OW’S. Maybe she should go spend a couple of days “living the experience”. She may come back with a different way of looking at OW, that is if she isn’t beaten or raped by one of its good-hearted members.
Report Post »noczars
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 12:06amI live in S. Ca and we are much more sane(except the LA movie scene). I would rather see Ca split into No. Ca and S. Ca like N & S Carolina. I think that is the only way we can dump Palosi; Waters; Waxman and all the other commies and socialist. We are begging for conservative candidates for the House & Senate.
Report Post »do_it_all_again
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 1:18amWhile i do not approve of the tactics that the occupy groups use, i do agree with one thing, and that is, it would be a very dangerous thing for any of the governing bodies to ban and type of weapon, ie, bats, clubs, hammers, swords, etc. etc. , because it would open the door wide to banning firearms of any type, while the occupy groups tend to use these weapons offensively, a ban would also include any and all weapons used defensively,, and that is exactly where the govt want to get to !
If these individuals are being disruptive, and destructive,, arrest and charge them with the crime.
Report Post »But the 2nd amendment gives us the right to protect ourselves and our property, from the crazy occupy groups and from the crazy govt officials.
The general public knows this, and it will be a very dangerous thing for them to try to start banning weapons. it would get ugly real quick !
West Coast Patriot
Posted on May 26, 2012 at 2:12amDo it All again, Here, Here.
Report Post »Detroit paperboy
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 3:05pmI hope they burn that city to the ground……………
Report Post »marhee9
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 3:24pmIt looks like they might just do that before this is all over. Don’t forget that the President feels the same frustration of the OWS crowd. Those are his words, not mine. Check out this video where he stands with OWS, yet mocks the Tea Party. All part of the “liberal fairness” thing.
Report Post »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwGq8e23LOc
yougottabekidding
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 3:42pmThats what Hussain wants! Then those executive orders he has signed for martial law go into affect!
Report Post »Once they are ineffect (if I am not mistaken) he can cancel elections.
RJJinGadsden
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 4:20pmIn typical Occupy fashion, members of Occupy Oakland successfully disrupted a meeting where city officials were considering an ordinance that would have banned demonstrators from using weapons such as clubs, hammers and shields.”
“Occupy protesters were reportedly concerned that a weapons ban would leave them defenseless against police violence.”
Just what part of “or the right of the people PEACEABLY to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.” do these idiots not understand? They brought the violence to the table and refuse to be peaceable themselves. Therefore, they have invited the police to become violent with them to enforce the law.
Report Post »burnbabylon
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 5:42pmIf they burn that city to the ground will you take the retarded refugees? :P
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 9:29am@ Raging Gadsden, Do you not see the hypocrisy of you telling another group that they cannot and should not have the right to self defense while they are protesting? Personally, I find that the occupy movement is protesting for more of the hair of the dog that bit them and are completely 180 degrees in the wrong, however, they are all human beings and as I am a Libertarian, I believe firmly that they have the right of self defense. So it wouldn’t bother me one iota if they all were carrying rifles and peaceably protesting. Hell, I‘ve almost always got a gun within arms reach everywhere I go and I haven’t shot anyone (yet).
What we are seeing here is the tendency of people to fear other armed people and feel that they should make more laws to deter crimes that can be handled quite well with existing laws. There is no need to make more laws concerning weapons. All we have to do is enforce our assault and murder laws.
Report Post »LT-prep
Posted on May 24, 2012 at 11:29am…and when it conflagrates, may all the commie occupiers burn with it.
Given the opportunity, they will set every major city on fire with their juvenile tantrums. They are unconcerned with the American lives and property they put at risk – all they care about is their “glorious revolution.”
As Americans we have a schoice – Containment, or Contagion. I vote for Containment – Put all these radical freaks on a big, rusty old barge, haul it out into deep water, and sink it. They can all sing ***‘Baya as they ’return to the Earth’ they worship as a god.
I have argued against such ‘final solutions’ for 20 years, but now I am convinced – communism is cancer. You can’t educate it out of people, you can’t eliminate it by raising their standard of living, you won’t eliminate it by any “reasonable means” whatsoever. If you don’t kill the cancer, the cancer WILL kill the patient – it is only a matter of time… and America has had this disease for several generations now. That Liberty did not die 40 or 50 years ago is a testament to our faith and resilience as Americans, but these have been aggressively worn down by the hands of an Evil cause.
Barring such a definitive solution, I believe we are headed for not one, but dozens of “Kent State moments” very soon, and the Liar-in-Chief will then have a perfect emergency to work with, in his desire to transform America into a communist state…
III for the fight,
LT
Report Post »~ Those who discard Liberty, do s
boiz
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 3:04pmThree words will stop this crap. Shoot to kill.
Report Post »Beckaj
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:57pmThe irony is that these same kids would also protest to abolish the second amendment if that is what they were told to do by Van Jones, etc.
Report Post »skiz
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:55pmEscape from New York comes to mind. These people are animals! Dig a moat round the place and let them kill each other off! They are Godless.
Report Post »jungle J
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:53pmonly those that are with them would allow them to disrupt anything….the insane have way too much.power.
Report Post »matt708
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:50pmhey barach, Harry and especially Piglosi these are your great people, you must be proud. The council emembers who would have voted against should be thrown out of office
Report Post »Sirfoldallot
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 3:01pmThis is Y We The ppl need guns, pencil head kills.
Report Post »sizzler2220
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:48pmOakland deserves what it gets.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:42pmClearly this less than flattering story on OWS needs the scrubbing and sanitizing of scrubber extraordinaire JZS.
Report Post »Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:39pmMore like “We could kill you with our stench!”
Report Post »jestice
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:35pmperhaps they should ‘cling to guns or religion’
Report Post »@leftfighter
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 3:02pmOddly, I agree with them. Oakland has no right to disarm them.
I feel nauseated that I agree with them and I know that it means someone will be killed by one of them, but the 2nd Amendment exists exactly for this reason.
Put a slightly different way, “Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples‘ liberty’s teeth” – George Washington
Report Post »hidden_lion
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 3:47pmNot sure how they consider a shield a weapon. Fact is, I am against any disarmament of the population. If they hurt people with their weapons, be reasonable and put a bullet in them. If they don’t attack anybody there should be no problem. I hate California and I hate these protest weenies. Hard to pick who to root for.
Report Post »FREDINOHIO
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 4:03pm@LEFTFIGHTER, Let’s see if I understand you correctly. You think it should be ok for people who are supposedly participating in a peaceful demonstration to carry clubs and hammers to bust out store and car windows and shields to protect themselves from police when those police try to enforce the law. Did I get that right? Why do people in a peaceful demonstration need clubs and hammers? Gee, all this time I have been thinking distruction of private property is a crime. Just in case you missed it, this is not a denial of second amendment rights. The second amendment provides for personal protection of life and property, not the right to destroy other peoples property.
Report Post »yougottabekidding
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:33pmArm the citizens and step back.
Report Post »Oakland look at what you voted for and enjoy your life and your property isn’t worth do,do
Mark0331
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:32pmWahh Wahh…I want my clubs and hammers to attack police,private citizens and private property..wahh wahh wahh….Live rounds beat clubs and sticks every day….I say let them have their sticks…it reminds me of OIF when Saddams Revolutionary Guard attacked Abrams Tanks with Ak-47′s…a Turkey shoot is an understatement….
Report Post »I.Gaspar
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:26pmShe could kill with a pencil….but not if she had no arms. I say disarm her…literally.
Report Post »AvengerK
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:41pmJZS…these are you buddies threatening to kill people with pencils yes?
Report Post »Mahakala
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:25pmYou can thank Mayer Quan for this for embracing the Occupy idiots.
Report Post »blackyb
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:40pmYes, they played with fire and now…..
Report Post »CatB
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:47pmExactly . .. reaping what you sow. Come to Florida b iotch and try to kill me with your pencil ;-)
btw .. Tampa Republican Convention will NOT be a gun free zone!
Report Post »MDDAWG
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:23pmIt’s sad that these occupiers continue to disrupt meetings and society and get away with it.
Report Post »I wonder if I took my Boy Scout troop to a city meeting and disrupted it like these people do, or set up tents for camping like these people do, if it would be tolerated by the government? I wonder how the MSM would portray my scout troop if we did the same things as the “occucrappers.” Unfortunately, things will just get worse as the weather gets better.
hidden_lion
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 7:25pmBoy scouts are enemies of the state…..Didn’t you get that memo?
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 8:47pmMDDAWG, LOL, funny you should mention taking your Boy Scouts to a city meeting. My son who now in his 20s, their Boy Scout troop attended two or three Town Hall meetings where the troop was located. During one of the discussions regarding hitting one single business with a couple of years of retrofitted taxes simply to raise funds. My son raised his hand and spoke his mind. Now mind you, he was all of thirteen or fourteen at the time, and said that made no sense and they were just picking on one particular business because they were successful and making money….that they were paying taxes on, as well as paying employees who paid taxes. It sparked a heated brief heated debate with most of the attending populace against suggested ordinance. The measure failed, and the owner of the business took the troop into the larger city for ice cream. It was funny.
Report Post »RJJinGadsden
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 8:50pmDuh! “retrograded”
Report Post »Rweb
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:21pmI love it. Free speech unless they disagree with the message the they shout you down. It would be funny if it was not so sad.
Report Post »Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:21pmThat just shows OWS only knows how to use a pencil one way, and not a very productive way. I guess in the winter months, the drum bangers and Peace/Love crowd was eaten. Now we are left with the Fine Young Cannibals.
Report Post »progressiveslayer
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:38pmShe drives me crazy,like no one else oooh oooh catchy tune and brought back some memories.But I digress,yes these people are demented and need to be brought to heel.
Report Post »AJAYW
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:18pmObama and holders followers – keeping things stired up
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:48pmYep……. and it’s starting to hurt Dear Leader.
Report Post »People are starting to see the world run commie Libs
lukerw
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:18pmWhom is to maintain… the Peace & Safety of the Public… if not the Police? Whom would give the Permission for Violation to a Threatening Group?
Report Post »FromSeaToSea
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:27pmAverage national response time is 12+ minutes for police. Average response time of a 357 is micro seconds. There are 1200+ citizens for every one police officer on duty at any one time.
“It is the DUTY of the Patriot to protect his country from ITS government.” Thomas Payne
“The right of the people to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT be infringed.” James Madison
Report Post »Popp40
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:13pmSo when things get worse and police officers or ordinary citizens get killed….can Councilwoman Nancy Nadel be held accountable for those deaths and can they be tried in a court of law?
Report Post »lukerw
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:39pmThat is the way that it should be! But, the Ancient Romans had the same problem… so the Politicians stole even more money… to use as Bribes at their expected Trials… and the problem was never resolved!
Report Post »SharpeWit
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:12pmThose terrible policeman that are sworn to protect and serve.Can’t believe they would actually do their jobs. What have we come to.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:11pmStephanie From Occupy Oakland – your verbal diarrhea is going to earn you a wiretapping and surveillance team.
Report Post »TH30PH1LUS
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 3:04pm@ FromSeaToSea
I’m not exactly sure what you are saying here in your reply. I love 2nd Ammendment Rights. Probably would quickly solve the Occupy Movement modus operandi if several City Mayors just came out and said: “we cannot staff enough police deal with your nonsense, so today Occupy is on notice: every citizen, every store owner has the right to defend his or her life and property with force. If a shop owner in my city sees your masked mob approaching with hammers and pipes – they have every right to assume bodily harm and have the right to shoot. Arrests and investigations will only be conducted if your body shows entry wounds to the back.”
Report Post »Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:09pmClean them out once and for all.
Report Post »MittensKittens
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:03pmOakland is too far gone to care about, put a freaking fence around the place and let them kill each other.
Report Post »Obama Snake Oil Co
Posted on May 23, 2012 at 2:35pmBeing that they work for Georgy Soros, tase them…..they will soon tell their boss that was not part of the deal and head back to mom and dads basements where they belong…
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