Occupy Veterans Day Rally Bails on Central Park: Getting Ready for ‘Spring 2012 Offensive’

In a last minute switch from the proposed 11-11-11 Central Park rally, Occupy Veterans gathered a few block from Zuccotti Park to rail against the wars, Wall Street, and discuss plans for their ‘Spring 2012 Offensive.’

Occupy Veterans Day Rally: Getting Ready for Spring 2012 Offensive

For reasons that were not entirely clear to the crowd, Occupy organizers pulled the plug on the Central Park Occupation at the eleventh hour. They switched the Occupy Veterans rally to the more familiar ground of Foley Square in lower Manhattan, just a few blocks away from Zuccotti Park.

When I arrived at what was now the Foley Square Veterans Day rally, an Occupy organizer took to the podium to share stories about his struggle to get the proper parks department permits, and worked in some more personal observations like “I need my goddamned food stamps.”

Below is a video of the rant describing why Occupy Central Park rally was dropped and moved to Foley Square:

Still, it was obvious that word had not gotten around to everyone about the venue switch. Only about 150 protestors were gathered in front of a podium that had large electronic speakers set up. For the first time at an Occupy rally in weeks, I wasn’t subjected to the human microphone process. In fact, the organizers took full advantage of their amplified sound permit for the rally and let 70-year-old Woodstock and Vietnam Protest icon Joan Baez take the stage.

Below is a video I took of Baez performing “Where’s my Applie Pie?”:

Soon after this Woodstock revival moment, a community organizer for a group called “Occupy the Land” discussed his groups plan in the future to wage a a campaign of organized squatting and eviction prevention through protest action. The speaker called housing a “human right,” and made the following claims in his speech:

“When we move people into vacant and government owned and foreclosed homes, we do eviction defenses to physically block police… the banks are occupying our homes, we are liberating them for human beings to use… advancing the human right to housing. Housing is a fundamental human right, if corporations want to make their profit, people can’t have a place to live…the human right to housing supersedes the right of corporations to make a profit.”

Most interestingly, the speaker closed with plans to organize Occupiers over the winter for a “Spring 2012 Offensive” to “take back the land” from the banks.

Below is a video covering most of the community organizer’s speech:

There were several Occupy Veterans that also took to the stage, including Sgt. Shamar Thomas. They stated their support for the Occupy movement and expressed their grievances against the “1%” that they believe start and benefit from all current conflicts. Veterans spoke about the global nature of the Occupy movement, and demanded more action to help the “99%” in the months ahead.

To me the whole affair felt distinctly small, not just in size, but enthusiasm and message. Veterans Day is about honoring and remembering those who have served this country and fought in our wars. Even apart from the leftist politics, any event on Veterans day that features community organizers and singers praising Tahrir square seems off key.Occupy Veterans Day Rally: Getting Ready for Spring 2012 Offensive

And with gusting winds and dropping temperatures, the crowd left me with the sense that Occupy Wall Street is losing momentum. There have been a series of violent incidents at Occupations across the country that the Occupiers cannot blame on police.

For the first time, I have started to think that perhaps the Occupiers will only have a token presence at Zuccotti Park through the winter months and go into a state of protest hibernation, only to surge back and push the movement more than ever in the Spring– just in time for the Presidential election.

I left Foley Square before the  Veteran Occupiers marched back to Zuccotti– you can see photos here-– but my mind was mostly focused on what I had missed that day. Just two miles from where I was standing, a much more suitable tribute occurred to those who have fought and died for this country.

The 11-11-11 Veterans Day Parade.

 

 

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  • barber2
    Posted on November 12, 2011 at 9:54am

    Joan Baez? Joan Baez ? Dear God. The only nasty “burp” from the 60′s to not regurgitate a reappearance is Jane Fonda ! Please, God, I’ll be good . Make this reoccurring nightmare go away…

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 10:10am

      Ole Hanoi Jane, she should of been executed for treason back in the sixties.These protesters are mindless drones,they’re greedy and are spreading disease.Disperse the crowd of cockroaches!

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    • Ruler4You
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 11:10am

      Postpone, until spring? Now that’s commitment. Just what we have come to expect from the left.

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    • drattastic
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 11:41am

      God please spare us from anymore of these chanting morons next year.

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    • crolic9
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 11:41am

      Yes, one nightmare was enough…. I remember getting off a plane in uniform and being spit at and called a baby killer by a young girl… It has never left my mind… I also never wore the uniform again of base… Thanks for the memories….

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    • 1bambam
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 11:59am

      If these people weren’t so dangerous this whole thing would be hilarious bringing back Dinosaurs like Joan Baez,,,, Crosby and Nash …who’s next Johannes Heesters,,,,maybe a speech from Chris Matthews…….

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    • Jim in Houston
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 12:24pm

      Is that old hag still around? She was a has been in the sixties. Dumb as a stump with a voice like a chain saw.

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    • newrepublic7
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 12:28pm

      You have to BAKE your own APPLE pie ! Stupid Bitch! Give me my food stamps and apple pie

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    • 1389AD
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 12:51pm

      What a shame about Baez, but that’s to be expected. She was a lefty from the get-go.

      I quit listening to that stuff a long time ago. The music was good, but the message was not. The vibes from the performers put me off, big time.

      Oh, and by the way, the Occupoopers disperse over the winter, they’ll be carrying all sorts of diseases.

      Epidemics in #Occupy will NOT stay in #Occupy

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    • Founding Father2
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 12:59pm

      Get the protesters out of BlogCon also and let Steven Crowder, comedian, through: http://www.americanparchment.com/video/2011/nov/crowder_lady_ows.html

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    • coindexter
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 1:10pm

      her apple pie is in her panteez…what’s left of them. at least she can still perform unlike crosby coke riddled stills and nobody. the left just keeps on getting more pathetic. reminds me of autumn…the leaves die,fall,rot into the ground.

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 2:21pm

      The more I see of these protesters, the more I KNOW their head is filled with things a dog would not eat and a cat would want to cover up. Some where in their past life some Union teacher must of filled their head cavity with buzzard vomit and/or HOG SNOT.

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    • loriann12
      Posted on November 13, 2011 at 8:25am

      @Founding Father2

      Thanks for the video, that was cute. Shouting nonsense, and they repeat it. Then he says, you‘re only shoving me because you’re a weak out of shape old woman and you know I won’t hit you. Priceless.

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    • NOBAMA201258
      Posted on November 13, 2011 at 9:23am

      How about the jackass complaining about “his” foodstamps and having to sit and wait for things? Isn’t that what these morons do? I think it’s time to break out the water cannons and hose these vermin down! A little soap wouldn’t hurt either!

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    • Josephine
      Posted on November 13, 2011 at 9:36am

      i would like to know were was the Blaze in Washington when the brave men and women that protested BO in office that put there reputation on line ??? no media would cover that on Veterans day instead all they do is cover these dirt bags i don’t want any coverage of them at all, Glenn you advocated to shout out well the good men and women went and rented spot at Washington Monument to give a shout out against the regime in Washington in a peaceful way instead what did u cover the dirt bags and we don’t want to know about them at all give coverage for the good people as well please????

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  • alrunner58
    Posted on November 12, 2011 at 9:51am

    I grew up with Joan Baez music and have always been a fan. I’m heart broken with what she said about our military. It was understood in the 60′s but this is different. Our military volunteered and risk life and limbs. What is the mind set of such cruelty?

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    • crolic9
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 11:44am

      There is no differnce….

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    • georgeisn6
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 12:35pm

      Idiots are idiots no matter what century they contaminate.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 12:37pm

      There is no difference… it’s just that you grew up!

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    • mountainb
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 4:05pm

      Someday soon,,, these idiots will show up in the true Heartland and learn the consequences of thier idiotic rantings about our great Country and our amazing Military. From the start of our great Country to viet nam, or today, they are and have always been the “Best of the Best” These idiots and their apologist in the media or on this site understand they could “NEVER” hold a candle to these men and pine in private, to be a pimple on the a$$es of our great military…

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  • Cav_Trooper
    Posted on November 12, 2011 at 9:47am

    Some of her songs were fun, when I was 16. I’ve always like the Folk style music. What a fanciful thing to be young and ignorant.

    My Grandmother taught me to speak well of the unfortunate ones and not evil maligning. I hope I’ve done that.

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  • NOBALONEY
    Posted on November 12, 2011 at 9:46am

    Is OWS turning occupation into a “human rights” cause linked to the “American Dream” of Van Jones’ “give them the wealth” with Housing being a Fundamental Right?

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    • Fantastic Four
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 11:56am

      healthcare is a right, housing is a right and the GULAG is a right all granted from the grandious views of communism.

      Just keep on the down low about all the poverty and death that comes with it. You know barry is a better manager than moa, stalin, lenin, pot, hitler, castro, chavez and the rest of the dictators that rule under communism.

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    • Obomb_is_Toast
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 12:17pm

      No telling how the house will look once the occu criminals get through with it… No lawn care,.no heat, no water turned on, no power? Occu criminals are mentally sick.

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    • Baerlin
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 1:07pm

      I lived in West Berlin in the 80‘s and 90’s and remember the “Besetzte Haeuser Szene”. These were occupied appartment buildings that had been empty for years and taken over by anarchists who then plotted there next street riots. The annual May 1 parade was always turned into a street war in Kreuzberg.

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  • AmericanWomanFirst
    Posted on November 12, 2011 at 9:17am

    “I volunteered for the last one
    And I don’t want to moralize
    But somehow I thought we deserved the best
    For the way we threw away our lives… ” (Lyrics: Where’s My Apple Pie?)

    So let me get this straight…Miss Baez has made herself a name, made money (capitalism), strums a guitar, sings kumaya to a crowd useful idiots and basically tells Veterans past and present your honor and your service for protecting my way of life in America have been nothing more than…“a throwing away of their lives”? It brings tears to my eyes..
    Thank you all Veterans for your service and honor. Without you, this would not be America.

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    • Taquoshi
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 9:42am

      Baez made her money off being an “anti war” protester, so it’s okay for her to have money, just like Michael Moore. The rest of us are just dreck, including those who served so these idiots had the money to pay Ms. Baez to appear.

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    • jakartaman
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 10:16am

      Are the rats going back into their holes for the winter?
      God I hope so – this is how pandemics start. Dirty, filthy, unwashed, lowlifes gathering in numbers.

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    • steveh931
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 11:41am

      Miss Baez is part of the crowd that never respected Viet Nam Veterans when they returned, let alone when they were fighting that war against aggression while being severely handicapped by the decisions coming out of Washington D.C. A lot of Viet Nam Veterans felt betrayed by the Federal Government and the people of the United States because the nation was changing at the time the war took place, much like it is today. Yes, even then we had Progressive Socialist’s in our society, LBJ was one of them, he’s the creator of the “Great Society”, more dependence upon the Federal Government for your income and healthcare. What is happening today is not a result of the housing market and bailouts, to put it simply it is the result of the “Great Society” becoming to dependent upon the Federal Government over the last 46 years and hard times that have fallen upon such a system creating a war between the two ideals of the working class. Some believe they are owed, while others believe in working for what they have. There are those in our society that truly need our help and support that have sacrificed much in their life, then there are those that want everything for free and just keep compounding their problems while expecting society to take care of them.

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  • EqualJustice
    Posted on November 12, 2011 at 9:07am

    I read some of the comments from LIBERALS about this site. They think it is hilarious that we “demonize” OWS. They continue to push the it’s a “PEACEFUL” movement crap. These are supposed to be the intelligent ones who think they know everything? They are the same TYPES who FELL IN LINE behind Hiltler with the “YOU ARE WITH US OR YOU ARE AGAINST US” mentaliity. WELL, this message is for YOU… I will PRAY you never get what THEY want out of this.. a dictator and a Communist style government that OWNS YOU. You can only turn a blind eye to the VIOLENCE for so long….

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 9:52am

      What it really boils down to is libs,progressives,communists whatever we call them they’re all basically the same,they want to be slaves to the state. The problem is they want the rest of us normal people to be slaves to the state as well.The protesters cheerleader in the white house needs them to be violent so he can crack down on us and complete his transformation of America into a communist state.If you read the ten planks of the communist manifesto you‘ll see we’re at the seventh already and most of the sheep don’t even know it.Hell they don’t even know the manifesto exists!

      I still maintain there’s enough patriots to ensure the survival of the republic,no matter what we have to do.

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    • Taquoshi
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 9:54am

      Let’s see, there was one suicide in New England, another death in Oaklahoma City, a shooting fatality near one of the camps in California and an overdose death elsewhere. Some fool took her class to the OWS so they could participate in storming a convention center where conservative bloggers were meeting, and the OWS people blocked the exits at another convention center on the East Coast. Let’s not forget the vandalizing of a Bank building in California either. Moving on to vehicle violations, the OWS crowds have at least two incidents chalked up to them, maybe more. And in the public health arena, there has been an outbreak of TB in Atlanta (supreme irony since it is the home of the CDC) and a undetermined cough making the rounds in Zuccotti Park. People have been using police cars and storm sewers as sanitary facilities. There have been a number of rapes reported.

      Yep, this sure sounds peaceful to me. Actually, I‘ve been surprised that there haven’t been more criminal – whoops, my bad – fleabag – ah, strike that, uhm, – unusual activities reported. There probably are. I just missed seeing them in the news since I happen to be among the working population.

      It’s important to note that TB is a highly contagious disease and while I had expected dysentery or some other crowd pleaser, TB is going to be a real problem.

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    • celestialfire
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 10:44am

      Don’t forget the $10million dollar fire set by a protester in Ft. Collins. It’s mind boggling this does not get any more than their local media attention.

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    • prage2001
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 10:58pm

      I believe that these OWSers want socialism. I think they believe that if socialists did take over they would be one of the “elite”, and not subject to all that comes along with the socialistic model. The problem is they ALL think this. In reality these “usefull idiots” will be the first to feel the brunt of the state because they will be tagged as “trouble makers” that have outlived their usefulness. Why can they not see this!? It has been seen time and time again in history!

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  • hillbillyinny
    Posted on November 12, 2011 at 9:02am

    I don’t get it! Why can this supposed “billiant” people understand that Wall Street is not their problem, the Government is? And is’t not just THIS administration, it’s the last sever and reaches all the way back into the mid-1800′s!

    Fannie, Freddie, increased debt, takeover of student loans, Obamacare, regulations, shutdown of industries including oil drilling in the Gulf and elsewhere, removal of the Glass-Segal act, “entitlement programs,“ ”pyramid programs such as social security where they take our money and spend as soon as they take it, etc., etc., etc.,!

    Blaming it on one will faction of the money flow within the U.S. it rediculous! They should do some homework and see what has happened and what is happening while they’re standing around doing nothing, they should “occupy their minds”.

    Wall Street and capitalism FUNDS these initiatives.

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 9:14am

      Indeed this is just one more group being used to pressure the system of our freedoms and the economy to force the socialistic agenda of Obama down our throats. They do not understand, these various “useful idiot” bands that they will be the first to be facing the wall if Obama has his way.

      Those on this sight and others who support these groups are the same, either willingly complicet with the propaganda of the socialist progreeives or “useful idiots” of their onw who have fallen for the same garbage the OWS bands have.

      Heaven help us, the firestorm is soon to rage completey out of control.

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    • nolemming
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 9:27am

      Education is the key. When my children were in school, they came out with Goals 2000. We rallied a large group of people to oppose it, at the first meeting the school gym was full of parents. We handed out the bill and everyone took it home, no one read it. At each subsequent meeting the group became smaller and smaller. When it all ended we were only 6 or 7 strong. I still called state legislators and polled them on how they would vote, let them know I knew what was in this bill and all I got was “well come on up and we’ll have lunch.” Really?!?!? We still fought to the end and lost but we still screamed from the rooftops. The children have been hijacked, our education system has been taken over, remember the “early retirement”? Planned. It is so twisted that the young people today are living out the dreams of a group of misfits that we should have seen coming. They were very quiet and very steady. I am taking my responsibility seriously and making sure my children and grandchildren understand what is happening now with picture proof of this lot in their hayday, and the destruction they caused and how it is the same people and things happening today. It is amazing what they have been able to accomplish while we were “asleep”. As the dirty hippie says, “Teach Your Children Well.” Stay involved with the children in your life, pass down your knowledge and wisdom so maybe the generation after this one will be able to pick up the pieces.

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    • EqualJustice
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 9:30am

      Obama keeps telling them they are LIKE THE TEA PARTY and have the SAME frustrations? Umm NO, and he supports THEM but ridicules US? LOOK at this short video and you will SEE which side OBAMA is on… scary!! http://youtu.be/-P7uuPCWXng

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    • liberalisrunamuckus
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 11:30am

      the Obama youth have no interest in facts or truth.

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    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 12:17pm

      Hillbillyninny: You write “Wall Street is not their problem, the Government is.”

      Better to say, the problem is what the government allowed Wall Street to do: leverage to the stratosphere, cook up derivatives so complicated they had to hire people with quantum physics degrees to do the math, encourage speculation with savers’ money by repealing Glass-Steagall, develop instruments not covered by existing banking regulations–should I go on?

      I suppose you know all about Community Reinvestment and the sins of Fannie and Freddie, but they were only a small part of the “It’s different this time” mentality of the ‘90s and ’00s, if you consider the actual sums involved.

      Protesters should by all means go after the government, but not if it means taking their eyes off Wall Street, which is what the government itself did for too long!

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  • garyM
    Posted on November 12, 2011 at 8:51am

    The sane people are launching a counter-insurgency at the polls in November 2012! All Obama voters are gonna OD or kill each other in their tents before the election in 2012! Of course Obama will still get some dead people votes if ACORN is involved!

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 9:16am

      Let us just hope that there will be elections in 2012, I can easily see Mr Obama going for broke and having an pre arraigned “event” that will allow him the excuse to seize power via marital law. Then for us all, end game.

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    • BEYES
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 10:28am

      It’s funny you bring that up Gary, it’s just a thought of mine and maybe WAY outside of the box BUT. How can he impose martial law in this day and age? He’d almost need tens of thousands of additional troops in the streets to enforce something like that and would need a way to inform everyone in the country that martial law has been implimented. It‘s not as if we’re in unsettled times. Just a thought, but maybe the recent events and policies might make one think. But it’s just crazy talk. Libs, OWS and it’s supporters………go back to sleep…zzzzzz

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  • cloudsofwar
    Posted on November 12, 2011 at 8:30am

    the 2012 spring offensive? this is war folks. at lease it sounds like one. man how far will BO go to get reelected? he wants his GD food stamps next i guess he’ll say I Want My MTV. for them life is one long protest. if BO is not reelected then we will see some PROTEST. the eleite can’t have that, they want BO reelected. Don’t beleive me look at the GOP feild.

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    • demint.disciple
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 8:35am

      Joan Baez = liberal hippy stuck in 1969 douche..

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    • Just_Bubba
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 8:46am

      She isn’t a “has been” as much as she is a “never was”. There should be a place for all of these wannabe activists who are too old to remember that they actually changed NOTHING in their youth.

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    • GIDEON612
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 9:02am

      This is the beginning of the end for this democrat failure.
      They do not contribute to anything but the defeat of Obama and I am done with them now and thank for that only.

      They will not be tolerated anymore and their luster has washed away with the rain, because they refused to shower.
      This will not go on in the spring and will not be allowed by clear thinking people anymore.

      Goodbye, we have your pictures and good luck doing anything except cleaning the streets that you have claimed as your own.

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  • HumbleCitizen
    Posted on November 12, 2011 at 8:16am

    @ BehindBlueEyes
    Don’t forget the gratuitous, “it‘s all Bush’s fault” line thrown in there somewhere for good measure.

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    • Robert Hawk
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 8:34am

      Bush actually did allow himself to get sucked into the game. I still don’t know if he ever figured it out. He allowed the Russians to play him with 911 (they planned with the terrorists who the funded). He should have seen this coming and flipped the terrorists actions back onto the Russians, but his missed his opportunity and played right into the hands of the Russians, doing exactly as they wished.
      Now the stage is set for Russia (Esau) to league with Iran (Persia) and Iraq (Media) and take over the oil business in the middle east. This will result in the US dollar dropping by some 50 to 60 percent within a few weeks time. This is the second financial disaster most Americans are not preparing for. It is coming and within 24 months time it will arrive at our shores. You don’t have much time to get your family in gear and plan for a failure of government and business which will be worse than the 1930s depression.
      Bernanke knows this and has stopped injecting any further money into the system at this point. We will survive, however it will be very tough going for a few years. Its prophecy so don’t get excited, simply plan for your family and be prepared when it occurs, you will need food, survival items and silver rounds or bars, and access to a well, stream, river, or lake. A garden will be a plus if you have the land mass. Food supplies will be difficult to acquire so plan now, while you still have time.

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    • jakartaman
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 11:38am

      Hawk,
      again good post
      Been with you right along for a long time.
      I don’t know who will control the oil – But I do know it will be in short supply and all that implicates for our economy and civil disobedience.
      What scary to me – I watch my neighbors, friends and family members and they are just whistling alway as if nothing is going to happen – oblivious!!

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  • GTH
    Posted on November 12, 2011 at 7:56am

    ManOLive! The ancient Yogi‘s warned against living in cities but they didn’t listen did they.
    Too busy listening to constant noise than to hear that soft whisper.
    Oh well, Maybe they can all visit the city dump tomorrow and join the gulls eating the trash.

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    • Robert Hawk
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 8:24am

      The Lord God of Israel stated “Woe unto them that join house to house, [that] lay field to field, till [there be] no place, that they may be placed alone in the midst of the earth!” Isaiah 5:8.

      He was warning against cities and the building of large cities, where people amass in large groups. It results in what we are observing with the OWS faux protests, set out by the Stoic-Sophist based socialists and communists. Notice that ALL the protests are occurring in large cities? Why not in the country? Because it would be ineffective.

      If they want to shut down the big cities, thats perfectly fine with me. Shut them all down and let them fall apart, they are mostly bankrupt hulks at this point anyway. We can live fine without them. There are rural communities all over this land who can put the city dwellers to work on farms etc. Eliminate the cities, mow them down and make them into farm land and recreational areas. People in the cities will not survive the on coming devaluation of the US dollar. They simply don’t posses the skills needed to make it at this point. Once the US dollar falls (Russia, Iran Iraq pac to take over middle east oil buisiness) then we will loose people in those cities by the millions, due to simple starvation.

      It will be a grueling sight to watch them starve to death, but that we shall do as we have not planned and we are not prepared for the oncoming disaster Russian has panned for us to undergo.

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  • MiCurmudgeon
    Posted on November 12, 2011 at 7:50am

    A speaker wants his GD food stamps? Probably wants his Obama cash also. Well, it’s my money as I am among the 53% who pay federal taxes and he can get off his butt and earn his living!

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  • spamlds
    Posted on November 12, 2011 at 7:48am

    Joan Baez? The other day, Crosby, Stills, and Nash were there singing their protest songs. These old hippies fly in from their Malibu homes or have their chauffeur drive their limo in from the Hamptons They come to show solidarity with their socialist brothers in the struggle, then they jet home to their mansion and tweet about how unfair the world is.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 7:58am

      Worn out, Failed, Ideas of the 60′s… are being presented as.. Hope, Change, & New… by the Obama Crew… who never grew up to become adults… yet, they are now The Man and In Charge. Grab you Gun… and Pray!

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    • freedomofspeech
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 8:04am

      times are tuff, these old hippies feeling mortality, they are first and formost entertainers get your name out anyway you can. living in the bubble of fame it is hard to see reality. On another note, since the occupy supporters going into hibernation the TEA party will be steady working for common sense solutions to our economic, and out of control government (fed, state and local). I read a book as a child about the grasshopper and the ants has a great moral at the end. Steady as she goes my fellow TEA party brothers/sisters.

      TEA

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    • Thatsitivehadenough
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 8:09am

      Oh well. Central Park is used to having drug users and sellers there anyway.

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    • demint.disciple
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 8:38am

      @spamlds .. Man, you are SOOOO right !! Nicely put also…

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  • ares338
    Posted on November 12, 2011 at 7:47am

    And bring out 150 yo Joan Baez (washed up useless old hippie chick) to sing a socially relevant song? These people are beyond hope. Just taze them all (really I mean his).

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  • Roxtar1968
    Posted on November 12, 2011 at 7:44am

    They had an occupy gathering in our little city about a month ago. About 7 people showed up at the old courthouse(no longer used)and milled around looking stupid! I sure hope they do it again in the spring. They’ve really inspired economic change in our region. LOL! Idiots!

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  • ares338
    Posted on November 12, 2011 at 7:43am

    It’s clear the morons finally figured out winter was coming on. Duh…spring is a much more socially receptive place for a peaceful fun loving crowd of flag loving Americans. The biggest mistake they made was letting this tragedy go on this long. My guess is that extreme pressure was brought to bear by the administration on these city leaders to let it continue. Now the administration can claim sympathy with these poor downtrodden souls thereby shoring up more votes for 2011.

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  • cassandra
    Posted on November 12, 2011 at 7:37am

    Debt is slavery ? the republicans are TRYING to get us out of debt ! can you say government loans, bloated state and government pensions,unions,entitlements, supporting illegal aliens with school healthcare,housing and JOBS these fools don’t even realize THEY are the problem

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    • Just_Bubba
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 7:55am

      Every one of these pukes signed their name on a contract before their debt was incurred. They have enslaved themselves by being too lazy to work and pay off their debts. We live free and clear out here in Bubba Land and have the freedom to do as we like. We are the ones who took our obligations seriously and worked every day for 4 decades to get what we have. I quit work 2 years ago to remove my tax $ from the system. We live on our savings not unemployment and are the solution not the problem. Come and try and take it you little commie pukes. I have a whole winter now to finalize preps for what they want. 150 grain Hornady SST loaded hot for the LR 308 and a grunch of frangible Varmint Grenades for the ARs. It will end badly for them and they are too indoctrinated to see the real 99% who will fight for our Republic. Semper Paratus

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    • gobnait
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 8:02am

      Slavery that they themselves signed on for and now decide they don’t want to play anymore. Can’t make this stuff up.

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    • Robert Hawk
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 8:03am

      Cassandra
      Don’t Assume that Republicans are your friends, for they are not. Their group or organization contains as many Stoic-Sophists as the democratic group, its just that the Republicans are actually Liberal Stoic-Sophists and the Democrats are Zealot Stoic-Sophists.

      What is Stoic-Sophism you ask? Well the Apostle Paul talks about all Sophism in Colossians chapter 2. The word he uses is Philos-Sophos in the Greek in the English its philosophy. It includes various sects however Paul only discusses two sects in Acts 17 – Epicureans and Stoics.

      The Stoic version of Sophism is directly tied as the basis for ALL Theocracies known as socialism, communism, progressivism, darwinism, objectivism, and twisted version of Christianity known as Liberation theology. Hegel and his students, Henri St Simon, Kant, Marx & Engels, Feuerbach, Bauer, George B Shaw and and countless others. Used this doctrine as the basis for their Theocracies.

      These occupy people are being driven by Zealot Stoic-Sophists (your president included). Who are bent of the achievement of Soviet subversion state of crisis, which leads to military control and a dictator under communism or socialism. In other words they are treasonous acts of sedition against the United States of America and abdicate its destruction. They think that peace can be achieved if we exist in a global Socialist or Communist order with a single government. That is their ultimate goal. Clinton calls it the Global Initiativ

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    • barber2
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 10:01am

      HAWK: Your comments are some of the strangest I have ever read. Just what are you trying to say? Religious or political ?

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    • liberalisrunamuckus
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 11:29am

      slavery is alive and well , we are just called the middle class now

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  • Robert Hawk
    Posted on November 12, 2011 at 7:20am

    Its amusing to watch the Stoic-Sophists achieve the prophecies of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Just as he exclaimed in Mark 13, these are so doing in the streets of the cities of the United States and in other countries.
    Christ warned to look for troubles, the actual Greek word used in the new testament is Stoing’s word 5016 = tarache and it means disturbance i.e. of water rolling, or of a mob, sedition. its from Greek word 5015 = tarasso which means to stir or agitate.

    This is simply part of the prophecies which Christ gave that are occurring around the world just as he proclaimed they would. The stake in the sand is defined in Jeremiah 24 and it relates to Christ’s identification of the generation of the fig tree (Matt 24, Mark 13, Luke21), which he stated “LEARN IT”. All of the prophecies of this generation are now coming true.
    1) The Megas Sizemos as defined by Luke – Mega Earthquakes, Mark and Matthew define them as earthquakes
    2) The nations against nations or in the Greek Ethnos against Ethnos -Ethnic groups fighting against Ethnic groups = Blacks vs Caucasians – Muslims vs Christians and Jews, etc….

    3) Kingdoms vs Kingdoms (this is what we call nations today), Islam against the State of Israel, Russia against the United States etc…

    4) Famine = The famine of the end times is explained in Amos 8:11, its the famine for hearing the words of the Lord God of Israel. they teach instead Stoic-Sophist Liberation Theology

    5) Troubles-above

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    • qpwillie
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 7:48am

      Well, you sure gave me some things to research and verify. It certainly makes sense though. Did all your translations come from Strong’s?

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    • Steve0218
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 8:05am

      Good stuff!!! If more people understood the prophecy that is being fullfilled today they would absolutely repent. EU rise of Roman Empire, Iran(persia) and Islamic nations along with Russia for Ezeliel 38 war. Economic collapse, NWO. You can write one or two off as coincidence, but there hasnever been a time when all of this has happened simultaneously and with the magnitude that it is now.

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    • jakartaman
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 10:52am

      Hawk,

      good post
      there is and will be a convergence of bad next spring/summer
      Iran/Israel – middle east war – oil/food shortages around the world.
      The euro failure and collapse
      hyper inflation /depression – possible dollar de-valuation.
      Un-employment @15% but real #35%
      Riots and civil unrest – marshal law and suspension of the election
      A new world currency is adopted with a conglomerate of currencies going into the basket
      The dollar as the world currency is over – Ben’s printing press is gone

      Other than that you all have a nice day!

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  • Bill Rowland
    Posted on November 12, 2011 at 7:20am

    It’s coming. Their plan to get together in the spring, is successful will result in riots, accusations about police violence, Molatov cocktails, exculating to armed mobs. Can you sat Martial Law. Can you say King Obumbler the first. Don’t forget this is the self proclaimed smartest man in the world and a man that learned his politics in Chicago at Daleys knee.

    OMG

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    • Outlaw_Josey_Wales
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 8:27am

      The George Soros Plan to take down the United States.

      Spring 2012 Continue with step 4
      November 2012, step 5 & 6

      Step Four: Sow unrest.
      Step Five: Provoke an election crisis. You wait for an election and during the election, you cry voter fraud.
      Step Six: Take power. You stage massive demonstrations, civil disobedience, sit-ins, general strikes and you encourage activism. You promote voter fraud and tell followers what to do through your radio and television stations. Incitement and violence are conducted at this stage.
      Step Seven: Outlast your opponent.

      George Soros has been to the white house 4 of more times.
      This is the Obama/Soror/Piven Plan to overthrow the government of United States of Amarica.

      The real riots will start when OWS goes to Detroit Michigan.

      You have till spring to get out of the big cities.

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    • poorrichard09
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 8:49am

      I agree. Next summer will be a “long hot summer” of protests, riots, etc all centered around re-electing 0bamao.
      throw in the very likely event of a global economic disruption; the enemies of our Constitution and our Republic think this is their big opportunity to overthrow the country.
      Sounds a lot like the fulfillment of Bible prophecy to me also.

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  • Darla_K
    Posted on November 12, 2011 at 7:18am

    I heard more about celebrating Rememberance day in Canada than I did V-Day here in the USA. These OW protesters seem to be made up of groups of people who don’t know what they want. I think it is a big party for them and we will have to go behind them and clean the garbage up.

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  • Living In NYC
    Posted on November 12, 2011 at 6:46am

    If these fools came to our area they would be the “Occupy the Local Jail Group” then the “Occuping the Local Chain Gang” cleaning the local parks and byways! We would not stand for flithy, drug ladden occupliers distroying the local resident’s public property! We would happily put them in clean prison orange!

    Bloomberg and Barry have a made a mess and wait till they distroy Central Park vs. some democaratic bundler’s private park! The people of New York will be marching on Bloomberg’s office and there are a few million residents vs less than 100 occupiers..the resident of New York will be in an uproar!

    Bloomberg better shut this garabage down this fall or face being “sent up the river” during the next election!

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    • pscully17
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 6:58am

      does everybody see the progression here? Occupy deaths, gun Violence, police clashes, major public health risks, and overall chaos, will at some point in the near future, require Obama to executive order a STATE OF EMERGENCY, and do the following: Ban hand guns, and postpone the elections!! think im nuts on this? ask yourself… what to this point has STOPPED OBAMA from doing ANYTHING???? hmm lets see.. Not the constitution, Not laws, Not the supreme court… hes pretty much givin us his intentions…. College kids as pawns, print and spend/borrow to fulfill monetary promises on debts, unemployment, unions, and villifying banks, the rich and has shown NO signs of adhering to any laws that limit his powers… I contend, that there will be a societal crisis, that he fabricated, big enough for him to ‘Postpone the elections” indefinitely… id wager on it!!

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    • Darla_K
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 7:11am

      He should be sent up the river anyways on a fast boat. :)

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    • Just_Bubba
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 7:28am

      Until these pukes move into the heartland there will be no declaration of marshal law. The pollsters and study groups are working overtime to figure out how to bring it out here because the REAL 99% of us really couldn’t care less what happens in the cities controlled by the progressive pukes. They have NO BALLS to come out here into Bubba Land and try to wag the dog. They can’t hide behind their mommie mayors and other puke polititions out here. They are the modern Jodies and Sallies and will be pick-up drug until there are no commie pukes left. Marshal law is a declaration of survival of the fittest and they will find out real quickly how small of a minority they REALLY are. BRING IT!!!

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    • Robert Hawk
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 7:50am

      Its prophecy as defined in Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21. Its an identification of where we are in the final events of this earth age.
      The final generation, “the generation of the fig tree” was identified by Christ in those same three verses, and it reverts back to the prophecy of Jeremiah 24. That prophecy came to pass in Novemeber of 1947 when the two state solution was adopted by the league of nations. Judah was then placed back into the land of Israel …by our Fathers hand. Most people missed this. This is the final generation and it can be dated from ether Nov 1947 or May 1948 (5 mo apart) at the end of the second passover. That generation is now 63 to 64 years old (47-48 vs 2011). biblical generations are defined as 70, 80 and 120 years. You do the math.

      So what must occur?
      1) Persia (Iran) and Media (Iraq) must rise to power Daniel 8 and become wealthy
      2) Persia and Media must turn the whole world against Grecia or Yavan (the hot and active), most likely the state of Israel and its allies.
      3) The West must attack and destroy the power of Persia and Media (Daniel 11)
      4) The winds blow and the final 4 kingdoms emerge (Daniel 7) the first three in the Middle East, then all consumed by a forth (Fake-Christs “Satan himself” global kingdom) (2 Thessa ch 2, Rev 13 and 17)
      5) Two witnesses killed Return of the True Christ to observe all people worshiping a Fake Christ Rev 11,14
      6) The vials of punishment (Rev 16)
      7) The 1000 years of teaching and Jud

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    • poorrichard09
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 8:53am

      Occupy the cemetary also! When I encounter one of these pukes in an online discussion I simply ask the question: are you prepared to die for your “cause”? give ‘em something to think about!

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    • nolemming
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 9:05am

      @PSCULLY17 This is what I am watching for and I do believe you are right. Throughout history it always starts this way and it always ends badly. Word by word and action by action, all predictable. It just blows my mind as I watch it unfold, and when I look around me no one else seems to notice, it is like being in a bad movie of the week. I was fortunate enough in my younger days to have a year end report assigned to me on Communism and Propaganda, this was when they really taught school, (telling my age now, lol) . This had such as impact on me as a 6th grader and my interest has never gone away. What made the hair raise on the back of my neck was Candidate Obama and his sing song messages, his scanning the crowds for effect, and the mindless people packed in chanting over and over the same messages. That was sooo creepy, and I thought then the people will never elect him, this is so obvious and strange, just not right, someone else has to see it right? Mama taught me the best life lesson ever, “Dont’ believe anything you hear, and only half of what you see.” It took me a lot of years to really understand what she meant, they were wise, wise words. I have passed them down to my chldren and grandchildren with the explaination and an additional, “Talk is Cheap”.

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  • RichNGadsden
    Posted on November 12, 2011 at 6:39am

    Joan Baez should just go back to her “Time Rag.” What apathetic attempt to take over and use the day set aside for us true patriots to show respect for all veterans. I say that nobody hates war more than the service men and women who are brave enough to stand up and do the job necessary. There are evil people in the world who do extraordinary evil deeds. Somebody has to be willing to stop them. To those who say nothing good comes from violence I say, slavery ended in the country through a massive act of violence, Hitler’s attempted conquest of the world as we know it, and his attempt to wipe the Jewish people from the face of the planet was stopped by acts of violence. I could go on naming the good that has come from other acts of violence but it would be redundant. Remember Edmund Burke’s “When Good Men Do Nothing.”

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    • pscully17
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 6:50am

      Dont worry.. The zuccati cough, will turn into the plague soon, and the crowds will disperse, and some may even die from their stupidity. Atlanta has tuberculosis problems. Its just Gods way of saying… dont be messing with the way I had the Founders create this great Land. rushforhillsdale.com Constitutional Tutorial.. good stuff. its free!!! sign up now.

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    • RichNGadsden
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 7:06am

      PSCULLY17, I had read earlier of the TB outbreak. A truly nasty disease, and it can remain dormant for decades. My father sat many a night with his dying brother back in the late ’50s. His major ailment was a heart disease, but he also had TB. In the early ’90s my father contracted a severe case of pneumonia and while in a weakened state the TB bug took over. TB is treatable now, but it took them so long to diagnose it and the damage was done. He passed away after suffering for just over two years.
      What I am saying is that everybody at that park will have to be checked for TB or they can accidentally spread it many years after all of this ends.

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  • loriann12
    Posted on November 12, 2011 at 6:36am

    I’m sorry but any veteran who shows up at an Occupy event in support (and not to find out what the idiots are doing now) is a traitor. If you don’t agree with government, you petition and you vote those who are guilty out. It’s not the banks, it’s the law makers that forced the banks to give shakey loans. It’s the fat cats in congress who wanted their base to vote them in the next year, so they bribe them with freebies and easily gotten items. I was told (right before the housing bubble burst) when I was looking for a house that I could afford much more than I thought I could afford. I didn’t jump for joy and get that bigger house in the better neighborhood. I used the figures I knew I could pay. I took my husband’s check on 32 hours instead of 40, figured all my bills and what I could afford (escrow included) to pay each month. We’ve been paying 2 mortgages since then (yes, that’s 3 years) and still managed to survive my husband being OUT OF work for 2 months. If we had gotten that bigger house, we’d be in foreclosure. But I guess veteran doesn’t equate to educated.

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    • RichNGadsden
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 6:44am

      LORIANN12, Not trying to make excuses, but I served in the Army for slightly more than twenty years. From my observations the military is made up of a cross section of our nation’s society. While the majority are fine upstanding and patriotic men and women, some are not. There are some true idiots that did get past the recruiters. This applies to enlisted, NCOs, and officers in my humble opinion.

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    • loriann12
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 6:52am

      Yep, I agree. I was lucky in my 4 years in the Navy and didn’t run into any. My husband did 20 years in the Navy and ran into gang members on ships shaking down people for “protection” money. He had gang members with the tear tatoo (meaning a confirmed kill) on their cheek in his A-school classes he taught. I just think it’s sad that a few bad apples ruin it for the rest of us.

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    • BJAlexandria
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 7:57am

      I’m with you, Loriann – since we have an all volunteer military, they can QUIT any time they think our military leaders are treading upon their rights.

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    • Rickfromillinois
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 8:30am

      I too did slightly over 20 years and agree, there are mostly good people in the military but there are also a few that are whiners, complainers, and always seemed to expect something for nothing. I always wondered why these people joined up in the first place. I am sorry to say that being a Veteran does not make you a good or heroic person.

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  • emertz8413
    Posted on November 12, 2011 at 6:33am

    It’s going to get ugly next year. Keep praying and prepare.

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    • Just_Bubba
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 7:43am

      It will end as qickly as it begins as the REAL 99% stop the madness. There are and ALWAYS have been jobs for those who are willing to actually work. These little commie pukes all have the “start at the top and work sideways” mindset. If they can’t get a job as a manager or boss they claim there are no jobs. BTW the reason they are pissed is they didn’t read the fine print and figured they could just use bankruptcy to avoid paying the loan they signed. Student loans are not forgiven and they didn‘t realize it because they didn’t actually read the contract. WICKED SMART huh?

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  • j_blaze14
    Posted on November 12, 2011 at 6:33am

    yup, its getting too cold and they also have some idea of how cities are going to deal with the crowds. just enough time now for some local legislators to pass new bills to loosen “crowd control” early next year. then we’ll see it ramp up faster and with more violence, this will be the obama 2012 campaign. “these riots going on around the country, these people just want change. this form of government does not work, there are things we need to get done to save the country i can’t do with this congress”, will say barak obama. “look how far we have come in so little time, i just need four more years to fix it”, will say barak obama. “the republicans have been holding me back all along, but i’m still here fighting for you.”, will say barak obama. can you hear it already?

    cain/west 2012

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    • rambosharley
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 6:41am

      Yep! That’s exactly what the commies are going to say! God help us all!

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    • BehindBlueEyes
      Posted on November 12, 2011 at 7:15am

      The commie in chief may also say “I know the violence and riots are out of control and Americans just want me to do want they know I must do. Therefore in a last resort effort to save America and its people I must intact martial law and postpone the elections until I clear up the problems the other side of the isle has created. Don’t worry though this should only take a few weeks to resolve. Thank you and alla akbar.

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