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1 Student Dead, 4 Wounded as Ohio High School Is in ‘Crisis Mode’ Following Shooting

CHARDON, Ohio (The Blaze/AP) — A gunman opened fire inside a high school cafeteria at the start of the school day Monday, killing one student and wounding five others, authorities said. A suspect — believed to be a student — was arrested a short distance away.

The suspect was taken into custody near his car about half a mile from the suburban Cleveland school, said FBI agent Vicki Anderson. The condition of the victims was not immediately disclosed.

Students screamed and ran in panic through the halls when gunfire broke out around 7:30 a.m. at the 1,100-student Chardon High School.

Heather Ziska, 17, said she was in the cafeteria when she and other students heard popping noises in the hall. She said she saw a boy she recognized as a fellow student come into the cafeteria and start shooting.

She said she and several others immediately ran outside, while other friends ran into a middle school and others locked themselves in a teachers’ lounge.

“Everybody just started running,” said 17-year-old Megan Hennessy, who was in class when she heard loud noises. “Everyone was running and screaming down the hallway.”

Television news footage showed anxious parents escorting children away from a school building, and ambulances could be seen outside.

The injured students were taken to Cleveland-area hospitals, hospital spokeswomen said.

Chardon High School Shooting Near Cleveland

Doug Gasper, a ninth grader at Chardon High School, is hugged by his mother, Sandy, as they leave Maple Elementary School Monday, Feb. 27, 2012, in Chardon, Ohio. Students assembled at Maple Elementary School after a shooting took place at the high school. A gunman opened fire inside the high school's cafeteria at the start of the school day, wounding four students, officials said. A suspect is in custody. (AP Photo/Tony Dejak)

CNN has more:

A student at Chardon High, Evan Erasmus, told CNN affiliate WEWS that the victims may have been students at another school in nearby Auburn, Ohio, waiting for a bus to take them there.

He said the suspect may have posted a threatening message on the social networking service Twitter before the shooting.

“I think he said that he was going to bring a gun to school, and I think that everyone just blew it off like he was joking,” Erasmus said.

One student claims there may have been a second shooter who the police cannot find.

 

Students at the high school and a middle school had already started their day when the shooting happened, but bus runs for elementary school children were stopped. All classes in the district were canceled.

Parents of high school students were told to go to an elementary school to pick up their children.

Chardon, a city of about 5,100 people, is about 30 miles east of Cleveland.

UPDATE: FBI officials would not comment on a motive. But 15-year-old Danny Komertz, who witnessed the shooting, said the gunman was known as an outcast who had apparently been bullied.

This is a breaking story. Updates will be added.

Comments (117)

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  • piper60
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 12:27pm

    The one ray of sunshine here, is that they caught someone before they(the perp) was able to shoot themselves in the head.

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    • SpankDaMonkey
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 12:58pm

      .
      Should have let him shoot himself, now it’s gonna cost Taxpayers Millions $$$$$$$$……..

      When are those darn kids gonna learn. That Ugly or Geeky kid’s can pull a trigger? Shame it’s come to that……. 10 Comandments hanging around School might not hurt. Cause what ya‘ll are doing ain’t working…………….

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    • rangerp
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 12:59pm

      glad they got him.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 1:06pm

      prayers to the wounded and the families that have to deal with this sickness.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 1:10pm

      I like that they captured him instead of him committing suicide. Now let‘s see the perp whine about how he doesn’t want to face the death penalty because he is scared or let him complain about how hard life imprisonment is.

      That would serve as a warning to other Loughners & people like this. If they see the perp lamely explaining their reasons for committing crime & their lame philosophies of life, they will say the perp is a loser & they don;t want to imitate them. Let them see the perp plead for his life of or how hard life in prison time is & they will not want to imitate him.

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    • Ray2447
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 2:14pm

      I just heard on Megan Kelly‘s show that the shooter was a student who’d been bullied.

      I’m currently enrolled in college, and it‘s been a long while since I’ve been in high school so I can’t attest to what currently goes on in high schools. However, I’ve seen leftist professors so egregiously bully their students with their Marxist propaganda, that they‘d lose custody of their children if they were parents of the children they’re bullying. Youbetcha, the biggest bullies on college and university campuses are the Marxist spewing professors as shown in “Marxist Valley College” at Youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iVmh0VCkL4

      So, what is currently going on in the classrooms of high schools across America, classrooms primarily under the influence of leftist teachers?

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    • I support God's Israel!
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 3:18pm

      Good old Cleveland! I LIVE HERE IN CLEVELAND and it is one messed up city. Gangs and smart-mouth cops.

      Wish I could move.

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    • Cooperm707
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 7:20pm

      I love how you’re all saying that this guy, the shooter, was evil. He was an outcast and got bullied by these morons. And to be fair I’m more than happy that bullies got shot for once. We’ve had more than enough suicides from teenagers of all ages that did it from bullying.
      Now I’m not saying “Hey everyone if you’re being bullied go out and shoot the bullies!”. But I really hope this sends a clear message to bullies that sometimes the nerds, geeks, emos, goths, and any other individual that’s being marked an outcast will stand up and take action.

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    • encinom
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:09pm

      Looks like a failure of the Christian’s God and Guns. Maybe common sense will come to play and reasonable gun control laws will be passed, I won’t hold my breath, cause children safety is not a concern of the NRA or the God and Gun crowd. Those that turn a blind eye to the gun violence the contribute to in the inner city only care today when in reaches into white neighborhoods.

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    • MONICNE
      Posted on February 28, 2012 at 2:50pm

      This as a working class violence tale that ended a young life, but was not avoidable in this Union controlled town.

      If this school had concealed carry this would never have happened. Please pray for the family of the dead and wounded but send a note to their legislature – the violence will never end until everyone is armed and trained and ready to go with adequate protection!

      TEA

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  • sta
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 12:26pm

    Lord of the Flies.
    Homeschool.

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    • I support God's Israel!
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 3:17pm

      I agree! HOMESCHOOL YOUR CHILDREN. Don’t allow the government to teach your kids, like mine were. Now, they are insolent and don’t believe anything you say.

      HOMESCHOOL until the government forbids that, too.

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    • encinom
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:16pm

      @I support God’s Israel!

      You mean the school taught your children how to think for themselves and reject ancient myths and supersitions that Christians believe are truths.

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  • Derek01
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 12:00pm

    Most people prepare for disasters. They have a fire extinguisher for fires, etc Why don’t they have certified gun carry teachers/staff at schools. Banning guns works as good as banning drugs, it doesn’t A determined individual will always find a way. Having someone prepared to prevent, deter or stop these idiots would work. If our kids are important , why don’t we want the best? You don’t see these shootings happen in police departments, only gun free school zones full of our kids

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    • LittleLeadMen
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 12:07pm

      There is always a Sherriff on the Chardon High School campus, plus they installed metal detectors years ago.

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    • johner
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 12:19pm

      I’ve never seen a metal detector shoot an armed assailant… But, I could be wrong.

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    • Nasado
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 12:34pm

      The problem I see with that in this situation is that I am sure it happened so fast that even if there were armed teachers, they would not have had the time to get to the location of the shooting and stop it before it ended. Now, that is not saying that not having an armed teacher is better but in situations like these, I really don’t think it would have made any difference. Like you said, if they are determined, even knowing there are others armed would not stop it.I feel for all the parents with the emotion they must have been feeling after they heard the news and especially for those of the children injured and killed. May God grant them the peace and comfort they need to endure this hardship.

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    • COFemale
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 1:03pm

      According to sources on several websites there are NO metal detectors at this school. So I doubt that there is a sheriff on site. So why do you ant to lie about this? What gain do you get?

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    • LittleLeadMen
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 1:20pm

      I’m not lying and I resent your post. I grew up in Chardon and all my family and friends are from ther. There has always been a Sheriff prescence near/on the campus. Always, even back in the day. Partly because there are 3 schools near each other, the elementary, the middle, and the high school.

      I‘ve just found out there actually weren’t metal detectors. That’s not a lie, that’s a mistake on my part. The active Chardon alum is talking back and forth today in our private Facebook groups. The word was that there WERE. Obviously, that wasn’t correct.

      The news coming in and out of town right now is sketchy, as the cell service is crap right now- overloaded. I have a few calls out to my police and highway patrol friends/family, trying to get a better picture.

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    • LittleLeadMen
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 1:32pm

      Just found out that Daniel Parmenter is dead. My prayers are out to his family. So sad.

      Shooter was T.J. Lane, his family lived on the property next door to one of my childhood friends. What an awful, awful day.

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    • Derek01
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 1:44pm

      Aside from wringing their hands and more talk of how bad guns are, What have they done? Absolutely nothing. Are the kids any safer since the first time this ever happened? No. A gun is just another tool. The liberal view that guns are to evil and bad and to be feared only encourages those weirdos who feel they need a gun to be an evil badass who should be feared. A simple hour NRA class that discusses firearms, safety and what to do if a gun is found would remove a lot of the stigma that guns are “bad and evil” and therefore, only evil badasses have guns. My 2 cents.

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    • LittleLeadMen
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 2:11pm

      With all respect, I don’t think an NRA class would have mattered to this shooter in this situation. But some moral intervention might have.

      The word coming from friends/family on social media is that this child (he’s just sophomore or junior) came from a broken home, and had been living with his grandparents. He’d been friends with a lot of kids until 8th grade, when he became withdrawn and more “Goth”. There’s talk that this was also drug related, that there was a drug deal gone bad, possibly fake drugs sold/bought.

      This was a planned revenge shooting. T.J. Lane, the shooter, posted a warning type image on Twitter a day ago.

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    • Derek01
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 2:30pm

      I’m very sorry for you and your towns loss. My prayers are with them.

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    • Derek01
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 2:32pm

      I’m very sorry for you and your towns loss. My prayers are with you.

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    • Tom K
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 2:59pm

      @DEREK01: There could be armed teachers with concealed fire-arms just for a situation like this one. There could be one responsible student that notified school administrators and police what the shooter put out on the social network before he struck. There could be citizens that are so sick and tired of their Second Ammendment Rights being violated that they would remove the liberal knuckleheads from their local and state government. There could be and there SHOULD be !

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    • 1TrueOne55
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 4:06pm

      I am a Second Amendment believer and I think that the sentiment is laughable, giving leftist teachers a gun would only make it easier for students to kill each other. When you have ready and easy access to weapons you will work out ways to get them when others are either distracted or not around, its called stealing them from the owner.

      Our town recently had an incident in court when a suspect stole the court officers hand gun and started shooting, no one was hurt but it showed that better security was needed. Arming teachers would be the las thing I would recommend. It will not solve the emotional problem that is causing these shootings, remember guns are just tools in the hands of humans.

      If we can deal with the mental state of individuals without destroying their right to think that way, you have to convince them that their behavior is not helpful to them or others. Just like God’s Law embedded in the 10 Commandments, “Do unto others as you would have others do unto you”. That is the point of those Commandments to guide us in our daily lives and how we should interact with others on this planet.

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  • I Love both Jesus and Israel
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:58am

    I don’t live that far from Chardon. That is a scary thought. This particular area of Ohio has had some problems in the schools over the last year or so though. Last year a high school in Lorain County had a bomb threat. This school year a high school in Wadsworth had a severe bomb threat in which the kids had to be sent home. Please keep Northeast Ohio in your prayers.

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  • Miguelito
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:34am

    How is that taking God out of our schools working out for yeah?

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    • Pontiac
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 12:04pm

      @Miguelito
      How is that shallow minded self-righteousness working out for ya?

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    • Soundbyte
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 12:43pm

      What a stupid comment. And having God in the school would have stopped this event?

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    • COFemale
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 1:08pm

      Well Pontiac and Sound – we never had these issues when I went to school – so what say you about that?

      Could this still have happened, perhaps – I would almost guarantee if this boy had God in his life, he would not have turned to a gun to solve the problem. It is those who do not have God who generally pick up a gun to solve problems.

      Next

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    • BoyScout_Mom
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 2:33pm

      Thou Shalt Not Kill. It’s not that complicated, Pontiac… really

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    • Tom K
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 3:22pm

      @MIGUELITO: When We were going to school we had prayer at assembly and sports events; we had the Ten Commandments on the wall; we had hunting rifles and shotguns in our cars and trucks in High School with NO shots fired in school; we each had a pocket knife in our pocket and NO knife fights. All that changed when prayer was removed from our school. PONTIAC & SOUNDBYTE are just WRONG. God bless the victims and their families. [ The shooter is also a victim, of the secular system that brain-washed him and who knows what else.]

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    • I support God's Israel!
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 3:25pm

      Pontiac:
      I do believe I agree with the other guy. REMOVING GOD AND THE MORALS THAT GO ALONG WITH FOLLOWING HIM from our schools will and have created these evil fiascos. And you, the idiot who thinks it won‘t or doesn’t do this, is deeply misguided and probably DISTURBED yourself. I would love to be a fly on the wall when you take your last breath and scream out to Jesus to save you. Then, I’d like to see where you go. Hopefully, it will be heaven, if you are sincere. If you’re not, BYE, BYE.

      MORALITY was introduced in the book of Genesis, genius. MANKIND took it and re-developed it to fit their own agenda just so they wouldn’t have to obey God. Being disobedient to God does the following:

      1. Takes you out of favor with God
      2. Gives you a clear path to ‘the other place’
      3. Makes you a follower of IMMORALITY, which makes you a follower of Satan.
      There is ONLY morals or immorals – nothing in-between, genius.
      CHOOSE WHOM YOU WILL SERVE.

      GOD DOES NOT REWARD STUPIDITY AND YOUR COMMENTS ARE STUPID.

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    • Pontiac
      Posted on February 28, 2012 at 11:36am

      @BoyScout_Mom
      Well apparently it is complicated seeing as how “Kill” was a mistranslation of a Hebrew word for “Murder”.
      Do you honestly think “Christians” and their christian children have been immune from committing murder because of a belief in an “all powerful flying spaghetti monster” or some such? I would say you’re being intellectually dishonest but that would assume you were intellectual in the first place and not just going on some mental holier-than-thou superiority trip for your endorphin release.

      @I support God’s Israel!
      [when you take your last breath and scream out to Jesus to save you.]
      Even if I had a mild case of dementia in my old age that is unlikely to happen and a severe case of dementia would invalidate your argument which seems to be what it depends on. I do find it amusing “Christians” show such “pleasure” in the thought of people fearful for their salvation near death. However studies show atheist are far less fearful of death than theist. Sorry to burst your bubble but my concerns will be for my physical state or my families well being when I’m dying. Not on some nonexistent place you emphatically think I’m going.

      When acts of violence like this happen theist blame secularism, liberals blame guns, and politicians blame Hollywood. The only thing one can ascertain from this targeted blame is just how simple minded and ignorant the general population is.

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  • tmplarnite
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:21am

    Dollar to a Donut the perp is Black!?

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    • Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:30am

      If he was black, it wouldn’t be on the news.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 1:11pm

      I doubt he is black. While a huge portion of gun violence commited under the age of 20 is committed by blacks, they generally are not the ones that do the school shootings.

      School masacre shootigs are generally white kids, heavily influenced by heathen music, violent video games, and raised in homses where dad is weak, mom is in charge, no church, and little supervision.

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    • Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 1:30pm

      Dad is weak, mom is in charge and no church are things you added yourself. I’ve never read that about any of the other school shootings.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 2:15pm

      Science chicken

      study columbine and some of the other shootings.

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:16am

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    This is what happens when Union Teachers, train the kids to be 99er’s……..

    You know the Liberals are “Licking Their Chops”, another call for Gun Control……..

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    • let us prey
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:28am

      Spank
      You know they are busy writing new legislature right now. They can’t get enough of this stuff.

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    • Machtyn
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 12:22pm

      They had their gun control. Only the criminal had the gun and the others are dead, in pain, or fleeing from the scene.

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  • LittleLeadMen
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:10am

    Chardon High School is my Alma Mater. I woke up this morning to my mother calling me cross-country to tell me what happened. to see this on the national news is so sad.

    The town is very small and everyone knows each other. This is such a tragic day for my hometown.

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  • ShadowPlacebo
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:08am

    Absolutely horrible to hear. My wife works at a school and this is always in the back of my mind. Sad when here in Detroit she’s safer than in Ohio. However, the parents need to be held accountable for this. Straight up arrested.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 12:36pm

      Um, safer than in Cleveland, not Ohio in general, thank you very much. Cleveland is the last stronghold of anti-2nd Amendment sentiment left in this state. There are CPZ signs everywhere (criminal protection zones, or “no guns allowed” signs) up in that area. There is no safer place to be in the state, for criminals, than Cleveland and its suburbs.

      Schools are posted CPZ’s both at state and federal level, there are cameras in this school, there is a strong anti-firearms culture amongst the “elite” types up there, and the teachers follow suit. There are even metal detectors in many schools up there. And the response on the news? “Omg, they didn’t do enough to prevent gun violence!”

      This is a horrible thing to have happened. It’s shocking to hear the idiocy coming out of Cleveland at 100mph. They have their little utopias in schools, and it does nothing but create prime targets of opportunity for evil people. I can’t imagine the kind of “thinking” that says that criminals will obey magic CPZ signs.

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    • COFemale
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 1:30pm

      Ranger and Godfather – you are both correct. Shootings did occur in the 1950‘s to 1980’s but by count were less than today. We also did not have 24/7 news cycle as we do today. No one had cell phones or Internet.

      Shootings today are getting more national attention and occur it seems on a monthly basis. Reporting increased with the advent of the World Wide Web and the 24/7 news cycle that came about in 1989 and later.

      If you look at the stats Godfather, they increased much much more, you can’t deny this. Kids are not getting taught how to handle differences and conflicts. All schools should have a conflict resolution class instead of handing out condoms by the school nurse.

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    • NickyD
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 2:08pm

      SHADOWPLACEBO
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:08am
      Absolutely horrible to hear. My wife works at a school and this is always in the back of my mind. Sad when here in Detroit she’s safer than in Ohio. However, the parents need to be held accountable for this. Straight up arrested.
      ————————————————————————————————————————-
      Shadow, do you have children?? I thought not, not teenagers, anyway. When you “do have” teenagers, I don‘t think you’ll want all parents to be responsible for the misadventures of their teenagers. I have a better solution. Since there’s no doubt about the guilt of the shooter, try him, convict him, execute him, surgically, and donate his vital organs, and body parts. In that way he can partially redeem himself for the one life he’s taken. We can save at least a half dozen other lives, with his body parts.
      NickyD

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  • ObserverOnTheHill
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:07am

    Dollars to donuts – look into this person’s background and I would bet that something like ADD or ADHD medicine is found. What is NEVER published by the media is this fact that many of these people who ‘go off” are on or have been on pharmaceutically prescribed medications. Guns don’t kill people, big pharma and the FDA do however.

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  • svan71
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:04am

    @ rangerp Awesome comment you nailed it brother …

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  • sWampy
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 10:40am

    The only solution to this problem is shutting down the public schools that should have never been opened. The quickest way to lose your freedom, is to allow the government to teach our kids what to think.

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    • teamarcheson
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:05am

      Was the shooter a Moslem?

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    • teamarcheson
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:17am

      The town is 95 percent white and witnesses state the shooting was drug related. The shooter was angry because the victims sold the shooter fake drugs.

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    • audaxrex
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:31am

      Brilliant solution, Swampy. Illiteracy is the answer to America’s problems.
      Who needs education when everyone has a Glock?

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    • LittleLeadMen
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:43am

      I’m sorry, but that comment is off base. I grew up in Chardon and attended the public schools there. It’s a very small town, and has always been fairly conservative. I even know some of the current teachers there, from those that have been there forever, to those that were classmates of mine and now teach there as adults.

      I remember leaving Chardon with a strong foundation education, as well as deep understanding and love of liberty and civics. It was really instilled in us from that school.

      Just saw a facebook post from an old school friend, who said something along the lines of “WTF?“ ”When we were young and picked on, there was a sense of, “I’m going to make something of myself” and the best revenge was success, and knowing your bully was going to be pumping gas someday”. He’s right. That was the kind of work ethic and values in our town growing up.

      What has happened to children these days? Why do we allow them to grow up so fast, to expose them to so much degrading material and violence? It’s so sad and tragic, as it was avoidable.

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  • Jeepzea
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 10:40am

    RangerP: I reposted your statement on my FB page and appreciate your post. Thank you.

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    • Godfather.1
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 10:42am

      Apparently you are as stupid as him since his comment is completely incorrect.

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    • dj109
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 5:46pm

      @Godfather

      You know what they say about opinions, right?

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  • red_white_blue2
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 10:02am

    The only thing to comment and say is to pray for the victims. Pray that they live, pray they survive physically and psychologically. Pray for their parents! I can’t begin to imagine. I have two sons. I can’t think of anything more horrible.

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  • Razorhunters
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 9:45am

    we have metal detectors, police everywhere on our campuses…

    with all the security, how did the gun(s) get in the school…?

    prayers to the families.

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    • MidWestMom
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 10:01am

      I’ve wondered the very same thing. Even though we live in a rural area with relatively small student body, the highschool has metal detectors at every door & there is a sheriff deputy constantly on site.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 12:56pm

      Ohioan here.

      Given the draconian view of guns on school campuses, you can’t even store one in your car to enter a school. Meaning, that even a well intentioned teacher can’t run out to his car and arm himself in situations like this. Meaning that mom or dad with a CHL cannot be armed inside and possibly thwart these attacks. Meaning that all methods of defense are banned and your only defense is to run and hide and wait to be executed by people who don’t care about magic signs or being videoed on their rampages. This is the progressive utopia, the fully gun free zone, and what has it done? It has created easily identifiable and targetable zones where hundreds or more innocent disarmed people are gathered for predators to kill at their leisure. And when they kill, as they’re doing with more frequency, what’s the response? Try and tweak the utopia into even more of a police state configuration, under some utterly mindless premise that doing even more of what doesn’t work will somehow magically work. And the price of this madness is counted in the lives of innocent children slain so that utopian-ists can perpetrate their lethal little fantasy. These are the wages, and our children are paying. Sheer bloody minded insanity!

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    • Razorhunters
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 2:02pm

      an armed society is a polite society…

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  • Apple Bite
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 9:36am

    You know, there’s an unspoken correlation between these school shootings and Liberal indoctrination that I believe nobody wants to talk about….

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    • Razorhunters
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 9:46am

      i find no need to talk about it…is too obvious.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 9:52am

      Apple Bite

      a corelation between school shootings and liberal indoctrination. No way, get out of town. what would ever give you that idea? You are just being mean, and you must be an NRA member.

      Do you mean to tell me that when we stopped teaching kids that “thou shalt no murder”, and replaced with Humanism (state sponsored religion that teaches – if it feels good, do it) that school violence would go up?

      Let me help you out. Go to Google, and study the numbers of school shootings prior to 1963 (when we replaced creation with evolution). Enlighten yourself to reality.

      Ooops, I just went to google and studied it myself and guess what? There are no school shootings prior to 1963, and the average home in American back then was more likely to own a firearm, more kids grew up knowing how to shoot and learned it from their fathers, and the most popular television shows were westerns, where all the characters carried guns. How can this be.

      Fellow libs – Help! Help! How can we spin this, misdirect, and blame Bush, the NRA, the 2nd Amendment, honest gun owning Americans, Christians…… Someone call Pelosi and get some advice on how to inerject some lies here. Perhaps we can blame white people, that usually works.

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    • Godfather.1
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 10:12am

      @rangerp

      Help!! Quick, how can we spin this to blame Obama and the democrats. Oh, wait, you just did.

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    • Godfather.1
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 10:17am

      @rangerp

      Apparently you are not very good at conducting your own research because there were plenty of school shootings before 1963.

      What was that you just said about interjecting lies?

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shootings#History_of_School_Shootings_in_the_United_States

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    • rangerp
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 10:59am

      @Godfather.1

      Cool link you posted, now go back, read it, and glean some truth from it.

      We have more school shootins per year now, then were listed per century in the first couple hundred years as a nation. Also take note on who actually did most of the actual trigger pulling prior to the 60s. generaly you will find it is adults that did the shooting. It is not unilt the 80s, when you see kids doing mass murders on a regular basis in our schools, and the number of murders committed by teens outside of school went sky high also.

      Taken from your post -

      From the late 1980s to the early 1990s the United States saw a sharp increase in gun and gun violence in the schools. According to a survey conducted by The Harvard School of Public Health[41] “15% said that they had carried a handgun on their person in the past 30 days, and 4% said that they had taken a handgun to school in the past year.” a sharp increase from just five years earlier. By 1993, the United States saw some of the most violent time is school shooting incidences.

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    • TomFerrari
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:01am

      I had to laugh @godfather and his typical left-winger, elitist, pseudo-intellect. He cites WIKIPEDIA as a source!!! ROTFLMAO !!
      A quick perusal of the article he cites reveals that it is frequently altered, and includes many non-school-shootings, claiming they are school shootings. Like the lady walking home after school one day who was approached and shot. Or the drunks who left a bar and were in the streets shooting, and happened to be by a school where girls ran for safety. Or the boy whose brother was beaten severely, who shot the teacher and was found innocent for reasons of justifiable homicide.

      Ah, the liberal mindset. Run to a crap “source” and cite it as authority.

      You have proven yourself ignorant deceitful lazy and dismissive of truths, @godfather.
      You have destroyed ANY CREDIBILITY you may ever have had.

      LOL

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    • rangerp
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:07am

      @ Godfahter1

      also taken from your link

      According to the Center to Prevent Handgun Violence, in the United States, from September 1986 to September 1990 (four year period):[33]
      At least 71 people (65 students and 6 school employees) had been killed with guns at school.
      201 were severely wounded by gun fire.
      242 individuals were held hostage at gunpoint

      Now go back, and actually count the number of shootings by students over the 20 year period of 1940-1959. If I counted correctly, there were 16 in that 20 year period.

      So, there were 71 killed by students in four year period in the 80s, and sixteen killed between the 40s and 50s. I would say there was a serious rise after we got rid of those ten commandments.

      What say you?

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    • rangerp
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:12am

      @Godfather1

      Notice that between 1900 to 1930 only two students actually did the shootings in our Public Schools. Once again, compare that to just one year in the 80s or 90s.

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    • let us prey
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:13am

      Odd father
      Historian and author Michael Parenti has said:
      “The powers that be not only try to control events, but they try to control our memory and understand­ing of these events, which is part of controllin­g the events themselves­.”
      Fecal agitator is what you are.

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    • Godfather.1
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:13am

      @rangerp

      The fact that school shooting have occurred more often in the 1980s and 1990s doesn’t change the fact that your assertion, that no school shootings occurred prior to 1963, is absolutely false. And, if you take a look, the vast majority of shootings in the 50s were committed by students.

      Do you honestly think that public schools don’t teach children that killing is wrong? Oh yeah, I bet they teach children that it’s OK as long as it feels good, never mind that it is illegal. Are you really that delusional that you think public schools don’t teach killing is wrong and that that has somehow led to more school shootings?

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    • Godfather.1
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:19am

      @TomFerrari

      No way, a wikipedia article has been altered! I never thought something like that is possible. I mean, it is only a user controlled site.

      No, it is not an academic source, but do you actually have anything intelligent to say disputing the information on that page or anything to back up your implication that it is false?

      I simply posted it to show that RangerP is a lying sack of **** and that there were plenty of school shootings before 1963. Do you dispute that fact?

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    • Godfather.1
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:21am

      @rangerp

      All I said was that your claim that that no school shootings occurred before 1963 was a flat out lie. Do you want to own up to that lie? You’ve acknowledged that school shootings happened before that, so do you want to acknowledge that you are a lying sack of ****?

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    • rangerp
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:30am

      Godfather.1

      For your sake, I will restate then. Prior to 1963, school shootings where an actual student did the shooting were very, very rare. By the time we made it to the 1980s, we have more shootings per year, than we generally had in a 20 year period in the 40s and 50s. Previously, we did not have as many shootings in a 50 year period as we have now.

      I stand corrected in that I originally stated there were none prior to 63 .

      I still hold that once we got rid of teaching creation, school shootings, school violence, and a whole host of other problems went through the roof. You will also notice that prior to 63, we stayed at the top of the world in mathc and science. Once we dumped prayer, creation, and discipline, we fell to where we are now. Many developing (what we used to call third world nations) now outscore us in math and science.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:34am

      @Godfather

      You will also notice that some of the large public schools in big cities now have metal detectors to check for firearms as kids enter school.

      In my Father in Laws day, he would get on the school bus with a single barrel shotgun. At school, the principal would keep it in his office, and after school, my father in law and the principal would hunt qual together.

      back in those days, many more young boys had access to firearms than today, and you still saw very little gun violence.

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    • Bible Quotin' Science Fearin' Conservative American
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:37am

      One guy here is comparing school shootings from 100 years ago versus the last 30 years like it’s a legitimate comparison. Another guy is laughing at wikipedia as a source. Wikipedia has been cited by judges and lawyers in court record. Meanwhile, you’ll believe every single word of some right wing blog without question.

      No one is trying to take your guns, morons.

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    • rangerp
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:57am

      And one idiot is afraid of science.

      What is the matter, you going to test Newton’s gravity by jumping off the building and landing on your head?

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 12:28pm

      Godfather.1

      Point #1: Ranger RP did not mention Obama. He did mention Pelosi.

      Point #2: If some politician tries to pass anti-gun legislation they are more likely to be Democrat or Republican? Democrat!

      Given point #2, using the name of a leftist Democrat in such a discussion is apropos. Doing the same with a Blue Dog Democrat would not be. But then they are a dying breed. Pelosi head faked to the right to get more Democrats elected in 2006 & then told the more conservative Democrats to shut & sit down.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 12:33pm

      Bible Quotin‘ Science Fearin’ Conservative American

      My kids were not allowed to cite Wikipedia as a source. They were encouraged to use it as a resource to fin original source, which they could cite.

      Citing wikipedia in court is a bad ideal. People can’t do just a little more research?

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 1:01pm

      Godfather.1

      “February 12, 1909 San Francisco, California 10-year-old Dorothy Malakanoff was shot and killed by 49-year-old Demetri Tereaschinko as she arrived at her school in San Francisco. Tereaschinko then shot himself in a failed suicide attempt. Tereaschinko was reportedly upset that Malakanoff refused to elope with him.”

      Schoolhouse violence? Really? If the teacher would have been employed elsewhere, The perp would have went there.

      Go through each case point by point & categorize them. Maybe the teacher should have had a gun. Maybe the answer is to take the failed suicide person & not execute him, but consign him to breaking rocks for the rest of his life. & let anyone know about it.

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  • JohnTwoFeathers
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 9:34am

    Whats the trouble with kids these days? This is a nice area with strong beliefs in high school sports, personal pride and God. Hope they catch this kid and make the punishment fit the crime. Now Fox says there was an accomplace..

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    • DapperDSM
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 9:40am

      They have confirmed 1 shooter who is now in custody. They evacuated the high school and processing it as a crime scene. The shooting occurred in the cafeteria with 4 injured but their conditions not released yet.

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  • crazyoz
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 9:31am

    Lets not make any mistakes, this is the ultra liberal influence on our life.

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  • lynda1276
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 9:24am

    scary- i went to school there. BUT at a time when kids were civilized.

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  • DapperDSM
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 9:22am

    This is near where I grew up. I pray for the families & students.

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  • cessna152
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 9:11am

    Liberalism, anti-God propaganda …. how‘s that working out for ya’ll? Let’s keep making excuses for bad behavior, never saying “no” to our children and applaud immoral behavior. This is what happens when a society listens to lies instead of the one true constant…God. Wavering in every aspect of our lives causes inconsistencies in behavior… kids/people need stability. Boundaries….

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 9:05am

    .
    And the 10 Comandments are to radical to be posted in schools……..

    So this is what Union Teachers, have been teaching our kids……..

    The 99% in training……………..

    Here come the Gun Control Nut’s…………..

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    • oldguy49
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 9:14am

      amen,,,,,,,,look up the change in schools and society since god was taken out of the schools……..as well as corporal punishment in schools

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  • BlackCrow
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 9:02am

    Another call for gun control coming.

    BlackCrow  
    • Wolf
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 9:31am

      Definitely- there’ll be crying in the streets for gun control and the POS POTUS is going to go contra-Constitution and declare some kind of controls.

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    • VanceUppercut
      Posted on February 27, 2012 at 11:06am

      Right, you‘re scared that the president who hasn’t done one damn thing to try to take your guns away is going to take your guns away. As Bill Maher has said, it’s sad when the only way you can criticize the President is to create a non-existent, fictional version of the President that might do something, or is secretly planning to do something (that you have no proof of).

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  • Nemo13
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 9:00am

    More school shootings. I blame the media. I remember years ago, way back, when some idiot threw a bowling ball off a highway overpass. It was an isolated incident. Then the national news got it and went crazy with it, making it a household story. Few months later? Bowling balls off highway overpasses everywhere. Then they had to put up all those fences you now see. Now here was are today, the media cannot get enough of making these nut job killers famous. When will the media be held accountable? The whole country does not need to know about things in Ohio. Isolate it so it does not repeat. Use your freaking heads.

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  • UBETHECHANGE
    Posted on February 27, 2012 at 8:53am

    Pray people, please pray.

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