Crime

Ohio Man Shoots Wife of 45 Years in Her Hospital Bed

Police in Ohio say a 66-year-old man walked into the intensive care unit of Akron hospital and shot his wife of 45 years while standing at her bedside.

Barbara Wise, 65, was listed in critical condition early Sunday after John Wise allegedly entered Akron General Medical Center at 9 p.m. Saturday and went to see his wife in her room. That’s when police say he pulled out a gun and shot her.

WEWS-TV reported there was a doctor in the room at the time of the shooting but the doctor was not injured. A security guard was able to get the gun away from Wise. A hospital spokesman told the Associated Press that one shot was fired. No one else was hurt.

There was no immediate word on a motive, according to the Associated Press. Barbara Wise had been admitted to the hospital several days earlier with a “life-threatening condition,” WEWS reported.

Wise was being held for attempted murder and is expected to be arraigned Monday.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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  • Apple Bite
    Posted on August 5, 2012 at 11:39am

    I’ll wait to hear the rest of the story. There’s a reason for every action…

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    • lukerw
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 1:12pm

      Tough Love.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 1:18pm

      In the case of Teri Shiavo in Florida..her friends always said that she favored life for the coma patient…Karen Ann Quinlan stating that where there was life..there was hope..and Teri’s family wanted to take her home with them and take her on trips with them to Disneyland etc..but her husband..Mark Shiavo had moved on and had a couple of kids with his live-in girlfriend and refused to divorce her giving her parents custody..He along with a pathetic evil dotor and judge of low stature..murdered her by withholding food and water.. Also a cowboy from my general area..had an accident in which he had a grave head injury,. The doctors told his wife that she should pull the plug because he would be a vegetable if he lived..she refused.. and the man lives a normal life today with no evidence of brain injury.. Now I have had arguments about Teri Shiavo..one person told me that she would not want to live if she couldn’t have her martini in her hot tub each day..but I counter with..had I been Teri and I could have gotten out of that bed..,well never mind..I could get in trouble saying that over the internet..

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    • canadianlady
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 2:12pm

      @ashestoashes – What the hell does this story have to do with Karen Quinlan?

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 2:18pm

      @CANADIAN LADY.. It’s about the right to life that every individual should have..it should not be in the hands of another person to take your life..Of course..that will change with Obamacare and the death panels..Would you like it if you went to the hospital and you were very sick and the doctors were going to do everything that they could to help you and your husband comes in..sticks and gun to your head and pulls the trigger..do you think that he has that right? Would you want him to do that? That is the point..

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 2:31pm

      @CANADIAN LADY..I guess I should tell you that Mark Shaivo used the argument that Teri had told him that she would want to be killed..and her friends said no..Teri had told them how she felt about pulling the plug on Karen Quinlan and that pretty much made Mark out to be a liar because her friend‘s account of how she felt substantiated Teri’s true feelings..

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    • Secret Squirrel
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 2:48pm

      .
      Either he hated her very much, or loved her very much.

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    • watashbuddyfriend
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 2:50pm

      @ ashestoashes
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 1:18pm

      “In the case of Teri Shiavo in Florida…” I bet you Teri would have chosen to Die With Dignity, after-the-fact, but, it was too late to make the right decision.

      I just wonder if Teri had taken the Right Road prior to her death, because her ‘last rights” did not change anything!

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 4:05pm

      @WHATASHBUDDYFRIEND..She never had the chance..she was never able to talk after what happened to her..but she was awake and when her mom would walk into the room..she would have such a look of love on her face..but then she would get a far away look in her eyes.. and that is why they determined her brain dead is my understanding..Teri‘s nurse said that she had caught Teri’s husband in her room with a needle..so there was always speculation that he had done something to her..I find it very strange that he would choose to kill her in place of letting her family who loved her have her..it wasn’t like she was in a coma..I believe that even relatives in a nursing home who have lost the ability to communicate with you..still know very much what is going on..I believe that intelligence is more than just a brain..I believe that we are still intelligent beings..even without a body..but Teri loved the sanctity of life..I think her husband was a liar..and she didn’t have that right to choose..

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    • Amarath01
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:25pm

      Ashes i would like you to rethink your position.
      1) You don’t know anything about the situation. You have taken position based on what you want to believe .. this is no way to approach such matters, they should be logical and just not emotional and vain. (I can tell from reports she didn’t have a look on her face of happiness , this much was cleared by doctors, now if you want to maintain she was in her body and had those feelings you may, but she didn’t exhibit them. This is further proof of your bias and poor history of the FACTS of the situation).

      2) Don’t judge, “He along with a pathetic evil dotor and judge of low stature”. While people’s right to self-determine,t not slandering people is also important. We DO NOT KNOW the right of your exampled case, but we do know what actions you have taken and its hard for anyone to take another person serious when they espouse such a level of ignorance and bias throughout stained with a bile of hate.

      This might seem confrontational so be it, i wish you to think about the thoughts you have , why you feel that way and do your responses help or hurt your ideals and they in-line with them?

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    • jhaydeng
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 9:10pm

      “No more wire hangers!!!!!”

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 10:24pm

      @AMARATH O1 I have thought it through..I didn’t just make assumptions..I saw Teri sitting up in her hospital bed with the look of happiness in her eyes when her mother would walk into the room..She wasn’t comotose..The judge was low in stature.It was either Jeb Bush or President Bush who tried to intervene and he could not .because those types judges have that much power…I will never forget it..and I am not the only one..It took 3 weeks for her to die without food and water..Every day when I would drive up to a stoplight..I would think about her..and wonder if she’d died..It would have been more humane for them to have euthanized her.. She was conscious when they started staving her to death..Have you ever been dehydrated? I hope that if you ever are..you will remember Teri..I am so convicted of this ,,it probably happened more than 10 yrs ago..and I have always wished that I could run across that POS husband of hers.. If anyone deserves a life in hell..that man does.

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    • Amarath01
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 8:48am

      @ashes
      Thank you for your reply .. your obviously projecting. She didn’t have any look in her eye, it didn’t change. While having almost no brain activity. The autopsy shows a clearer picture with 1/2 the weight of a normal brain (from neuron loss) and 30% of the normal neurons in the regulation centers (normally the least effected in coma pt.s as they body is still working to a degree).
      Lets be clear about a few things, one she wasn’t killed. She died because she she had no abilities to do or ask for anything. If you want to talk about the intent of god or nature .. well it is that she die .. otherwise she would have lived. God / nature took over.
      Two with her brain she didn‘t suffer as she couldn’t experience. In the non-realistic example of she could experience she did suffer, then we should have peacefully put her out of her misery. We do these kind acts for our animals why not our most loved? (Though not when they are just sick and I personally wouldn’t care to die of dehydration) The type of death is a result of people saying, “you cannot kill them life is sacred”. I would agree but so is death; please let me have it when its my time. This life we have is not about “existing” as long as possible, it about “living” as long as possible. And people with your ideal set restrict my right to self-determine.
      What would you do if you ran into him? I mean this sounds liek you kill that her death is wrong (grey) where as his death/pain is ok/good? See what i a

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    • minorityconservative2
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 1:53pm

      @amaroth
      Did you see the various videos of Terri while she was in a PVS? If not you can’t talk about it. I saw the videos of her and she definitely had reactions to things. No matter how badly her brain was injured and or how little her brain weighed does not mean she was in a PVS state. She clearly had reactions to her family and if you did see videos of her then you are clearly blind. I challenge anyone to watch videos of her and say she had no reactions. She was not able to feed herself and had trouble swallowing but was not given any therapy to see if she might be able to gain the ability back. Babies can‘t feed themselves either but you can’t go around killing them. Now you want to talk about facts. Her husband brought a lawsuit against the hospital for misdiagnosing her when she came to the emergency room. He sued for her FUTURE CARE! So he gets the money and then decides some years later that she would not want to live that way. How do you sue for the care you will have to give and then say “oh she did not want to live this way”? If you were in an accident where your body was broken and you couldn’t feed yourself would you want someone to feed you? I bet you would. What happened to her was murder! All that being said I am still a little lost as to why we are talking about it right here.

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    • ashestoashes
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 11:40pm

      @MINORITY CONSERVATIVE. BRAVO.!! Well said..Thank you..

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  • DetritusScreener
    Posted on August 5, 2012 at 11:28am

    The argument that euthanasia is playing God and therefore wrong is not that different from playing God by keeping someone alive and in pain and agony that would otherwise pass. Right or wrong, it is a two way street and the individual should have the right to make their own decision about their own body and own life without government interference. It cannot get anymore personal than ownership of your own body.

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 11:40am

      So true. We treat human beings worse than we treat our animals. This ‘life at any cost’ philosophy is wrong, and mean.

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    • ChildOfTheKing
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 11:54am

      It is NOT up to flawed human beings, to determine whether or not a person is to live or die. THAT IS UP TO GOD. The minute a person decides the fate of another human being, THEY USURP GOD’S AUTHORITY. God said in Hebrews 9:27, “And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment (KJV)”

      Do you really want to be responsible for a decision to take another person’s life, including the death penalty? THINK ABOUT THIS.

      Just because MAN says it’s OK, does NOT mean God says it’s ok. SHOW ME ANYWHERE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT WHERE JESUS OR ANY OF THE APOSTLES SAID IT WAS OK TO TAKE ANOTHER LIFE IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM?

      Since Jesus came to fulfill the LAW (O.T.), He also came to show us HOW TO LIVE AND DIE with GRACE.

      Try reading your Bible for your answers instead of depending on MAN, who will always steer you wrong because MAN IS A FLAWED BEING because of the what man/woman did in the Garden of Eden. THEY LISTENED TO SATAN and they are still listening to Satan TODAY.

      MAN IS FLAWED.

      Trust no one but God. If you don’t, then YOU WILL ANSWER TO GOD AT JUDGEMENT – PERIOD.
      If you believe He will let you off with a warning, you are delusional. You will reap the same reward as you showed to someone else.

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 12:06pm

      ChildOfTheKing,

      So, when a man’s heart stops beating, it is G-d’s will, and man has no right to interfere in that will. Do not prolong that man’s life?

      You see, this ‘human intervention’ story cuts both ways. We are moving to gardens of unconscious people existing on tubes, monitors, and ventilators… the science is becoming that good. It’s savage.

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    • watashbuddyfriend
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 2:45pm

      @ DetritusScreener, and I agree that I, or anyone shall have the right to Die With Dignity!

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    • DetritusScreener
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 4:11pm

      @Childoftheking – You are delusional. I never said anything about someone taking another persons life anywhere in what I wrote. If fact, I made the exact opposite point with regard to government intervention. I said, “the individual should have the right to make their own decision about their own body and own life without government interference”. You said, “The minute a person decides the fate of another human being”.
      To help see things more clearly, Jesus said, “I entered this world to render judgment—to give sight to the blind and to show those who think they see that they are blind.” Now go and wash your eyes so that you can truly see the error of your logic.

      The bible can be a great reference tool. However, people easily pick and choose quotes and analogies when they don’t truly apply in today’s day and age. Jesus would tell you to use the tools God gave you. You should have God’s gift to use your mind, coherent thought and deductive reasoning. Without those things, you might as well be any of the other animals in God’s kingdom. ‘Child of the King’, allow God to teach you so that you may learn.

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    • lukerw
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 7:16pm

      @CHILD…
      Maybe your God takes life and Kills People… but not my GOD! Such dirvel… causes people to blame GOD for the Death of LovedOnes; and, causes them to hate Religion!

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  • christhefanatic
    Posted on August 5, 2012 at 11:17am

    Awful story. Life can be pretty awful sometimes.

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  • LMW
    Posted on August 5, 2012 at 11:16am

    My wife of 43 years died of brain cancer and the last month of her life she was in so much pain that if she had asked I would have done anything to end her suffering. Lets wait to hear why he did this before judging.

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    • the_truth_or_not
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 11:52am

      I am sorry for your loss LMW, you do have my condulances. I agree whole heartedly, if I were in that position I would do the same so she would no longer suffer and I know that GOD would be waiting for her. It would be the hardest thing I would ever do, and it would be done with tears in my eyes.

      You are also correct. There are far too many people that just jump to conclusions. Without knowing the motive, comments should be free of accusations. We could speculate all types of things, other than he was doing it out of compassion.

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    • RamonPreston
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 2:16pm

      My friend and I were talking about this this afternoon. We treat our animals better than people. If an animal is suffering we end it but a person has to endure unimaginable pain without the option of ending it.

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    • PurrrpleMtnMajesty
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 6:01pm

      I understand. Had a friend whose sister went through something similar and the hospital would NOT up her pain meds because it would mean a possibly “lethal” dose. She was dying anyway (no hope of recovery). If it is POSSIBLY lethal and not absolutely lethal, I imagine we would ALL want relief from pain. Her husband almost got into a fistfight with the doctor who denied her the medication.
      He had to be restrained physically. While I do feel for doctors who have to worry about every lawsuit,
      I must say with socialized medicine a lot more will end their years suffering. It is such a helpless feeling to watch someone you love suffer, knowing you can do NOTHING. My condolances are with you.

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    • 4xeverything
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 2:13am

      Yes, let’s just wait and see. I’m still not sure why this story was even published without some sort of backstory. I do enjoy The Blaze but, I do not enjoy 1/2 stories. It‘s like telling the story of ’Jack and the Beanstalk’ but, stopping before the the beanstalk actually grows. I don’t say this much but, can you not worry about being the first and only worry about being right Blaze.

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  • alrunner58
    Posted on August 5, 2012 at 10:43am

    I will pray for both of them.

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  • ObserverOnTheHill
    Posted on August 5, 2012 at 10:42am

    the story didn’t say if he was a white guy or not. If he was – he’s in deep doo doo.

    If he‘s a minority then I’m sure Holder will step in and forget prosecuting him.

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  • cykonas
    Posted on August 5, 2012 at 10:36am

    First, let’s all say a prayer or two for this woman.

    Next, where are some of you coming from? I read The Blaze story. I read the one local news report that is linked in the story. Then I read through the 20 comments that are currently posted.

    What do I see? I see a theory that says the husband must be an atheist. Nothing like that in either report.

    There’s another post that cites frustration on the part of the husband as the cause because his wife had been sick “all those years”. Again, nothing even remotely like that in either report. The only reference that I see is that she was hospitalized “serveral days ago”.

    In another post someone says the woman was shot while she was standing by her bed and therefore the husband was premature in shooting her because if she was standing she could not have been in pain. Nothing like that in either report. As a matter of fact The Blaze report says it was the man who was standing at her bedside when the wife was shot, and by using the term bedside instead of hospital room, if I was going to assume anything I would assume she was in the bed

    When I first started following news and comments on The Blaze one of the reasons was that I thought most posters were pretty astute, common sense folks. Not so much anymore. The Blaze report and the linked report are a total of 12 paragraphs, most of them a sentence or two in length. How can we get it so wrong with that little information to digest? Disgusting! P

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    • SERUM
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 10:49am

      Cykonas,
      Will we ever hear from you again?

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    • cykonas
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 5:12pm

      Serum, I doubt that you will hear from me. You obviously lack the capacity to understand the English language. Enjoy the fog, brother. Peace.

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  • watersRpeople
    Posted on August 5, 2012 at 10:31am

    Ron Paul is a man who just wants America to be still. But Americans don’t want to be still. You shouldn‘t judge a book by it’s cover, because some of the greatest hearted people can’t speak very well.

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    • Wool-Free Vision
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 4:34pm

      FYI, the President of the United States of America really needs to be a good speaker. I’m sorry if you disagree, but really, it is absolutely required for the job.

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    • cykonas
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 5:22pm

      Wool, I agree 100%. President Obama is an extremely effective and charismatic speaker. What a great point you raised.

      Not! How about his record? Does that count for anything? Are you brain dead, boyo? Peace.

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    • Wool-Free Vision
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 6:19pm

      Cykonas, you obviously missed the point. Evidently, your Ron Paul zealotry precludes you from grasping the concept that the position of POTUS requires several qualifications, not the least of which is the ability to articulate a reasonable position without making American voters roll their eyes in dismay and frustration.

      In my opinion, Ron Paul’s positions (for the most part) are exceptional, but his ability to articulate them without coming off as a weak, whiny nuissance is lacking. This is what makes him “unelectable.”

      Furthermore, Obama’s positions are deplorable. His abuse of the language to disguise his positions is deceitful and disgusting. And his disingenuousness is palpable. HE IS NOT A GOOD SPEAKER, EITHER, and I wish you deaf, dumb, and blind zealots could see that. He reads a teleprompter fairly well, but his blatant dishonesty makes him unlistenable to anyone with even a hint of discernment.

      Finally, my point was that being able to communicate one’s position to the masses, as well as to foreign diplomats, is ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL to leading the greatest nation on Earth.

      Romney was FAR from my first choice, but sadly he is the best choice remaining. If you want to save this country from itself, you will stop vindictively attacking Conservatives everywhere you find a “reply” button because your candidate couldn’t get nominated, and start educating the fools on the left.

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    • cykonas
      Posted on August 6, 2012 at 10:20am

      @WOOL

      I got your point. I think it’s weak. Several Presidents were effective orators, but lousy executives. Several others were lousy orators, but effective executives. There were quite a few others who were lousy at both oration and in executive effectiveness. And lastly, there have been a few who were effective in both skills. I really don’t think oratory skill is any indication of effectiveness as an executive, frankly, in government or business.

      Now to you point that a lot of voters pay attention to oratory skill, I will not argue that because I believe you’re right. I think it’s mainly the younger voters who pay attention to the “glamour” aspects of a candidate. How they look, how they speak, if they attend church, and if so what church they attend, how they appear on TV, etc. None of that means anything to me.

      I will also add that almost all substantive communication in our government happens behind the scenes and usually through intermediaries, not by the President directly. So I don’t buy that point either.

      If it makes you happy to call me a Ron Paul zealot, then I’m delighted to entertain you. But no matter how articulate and attractive the politician, when he/she favors programs that enlarge the Federal government and infringe on my God given rights I will not support them. Conversely, if the candidate who is most in line with the Constitution isn‘t a great speech maker I don’t care. He/she has my vote. Substance trumps aesthetics

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  • progressiveslayer
    Posted on August 5, 2012 at 10:20am

    If you’ve ever watched someone die of bone cancer as I watched my aunt you can see how someone would want their suffering ended.The drugs they have for treating pain of the terminally ill simply aren‘t enough and I’m not advocating the state have a say so in such a private matter,it should be a decision of the soon departed as to how they deal with this issue.It’s amazing we have more compassion for a horse with a broken leg than we do for a human dying in agony.

    If the person dying in agony decides to end their suffering they’ll be judged by God,it‘s isn’t the business of anyone else.If the person is an atheist and they‘re right it’s a non issue,if they’re wrong see above sentence.

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    • AnAmericanToo
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 10:52am

      I understand your posting. My father endured a horrific cancer death. My late mother also suffered from a painful death. I had always heard that there is no need for any drastic actions on the part of the family members nor the patient because ‘…we (medical profession) can EFFECTIVELY manage pain”. I believed that medical myth until I witnessed the agonizing death of my mother. One time the nurse turned to me and asked me (a non medical person), “Do you think your mother is in pain? Do you think “we” should give her some pain medication?” So all those claims being able to manage pain was an utter lie because the medical professionals can’t even tell if a critically ill patient is even in pain. NEVER trusted the medical community after that.

      Medical staff was always testing to see if it was time to pull the plug on mother. They asked her stupid questions after forcing her awake to suddenly respond to “What day is it?“ or ”What’s your favorite flower?” She liked all flowers and so stated it. THIS was not acceptable and a clear sign her mental functioning was decreasing. I brought in cue cards for the stupid staff with photos and answers to test her.

      My father was dying of cancer in the hospital and the foolish medical team didn‘t want to give him ’too much morphine‘ because they didn’t want him to become addicted to it. I told them to give him the dang (other word used) morphine the man is dying and in pain. Geez!

      Successful pain mana

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    • ChildOfTheKing
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 11:44am

      Medical personnel CAN TELL IF THE PATIENT IS IN PAIN: blood pressure. High blood pressure tells the doctor/nurse a patient is in pain and depending on how high it is, will determine sometimes, how much pain meds to give. Also, brain scans can also tell HOW MUCH PAIN the patient is in, but not all medical personnel will go this far. Blood pressure measurements are the true key to pain.

      God sees the heart and even tho I could and would never kill someone in terrible pain, it MUST be the patient’s decision. Taking one’s own life is a PERSONAL CHOICE and if they really want to do it, they will find a way. Personally, I would just use as much morphine as was legally possible – morphine drip and PRAY for a speedy death or a miracle of healing (I have seen this, too). I once saw a woman who had cancer, healed of it COMPLETELY. After she was prayed for, she spit up this vile stuff. She went to the doctor and they were baffled – she was free of Cancer. However, this woman loved the Lord, served Him all her life and truly believed He would heal her. HE DID IN FRONT OF OVER 500 PEOPLE.

      I know a lot of you will laugh and mock and carry on, but Grace Cathedral in Cuyahoga Falls Oh, where Rev. Ernest Angley pastors, was the one who prayed for her. At the time, Mr. Angley had his church on Canton Road in Springfield Township. So, if you discount the power of God, then I guess you won’t get anything from Him

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    • AnAmericanToo
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 12:24pm

      ChildOfTheKing — well, the medical team for my mother didn’t bother to take any blood pressure readings for pain (set up to all sorts of monitors but clearing not being used for pain management) and her brain was so riddled with infections it probably wouldn’t have read correctly for pain evaluations. Additionally the blood pressure readings would have been skewed because she was on high doses of antibiotics to attempt to stem the brain infections and a host of other factors that would have interfered with an accurate blood pressure reading. Even IF you are correct that these are two possible devises to check for pain — the team decided that the BEST way to determine if my mother’s status was to ASK me. THAT means that they are NOT doing appropriate pain management.

      Again, in my father’s case the medical team KNEW he was in pain but feared he would get addicted to morphine — the man was dying for goodness sakes!

      The medical profession should just not lie to the public that they can management pain when they cannot. They set up high expectations that cannot be fulfilled and leave family members to watch in horror which is probably what brought this poor husband in the story to the point that he took extreme actions for his wife.

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  • hi
    Posted on August 5, 2012 at 10:18am

    Typical lib.

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  • watersRpeople
    Posted on August 5, 2012 at 10:13am

    I keep telling people there is more action in inaction. But no one wants to listen to hear.

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  • watersRpeople
    Posted on August 5, 2012 at 10:09am

    Even in the way Jesus Christ came to a man who was waiting for the movement of the waters, and Jesus told him to take up his bed and walk. Because Jesus wanted the waters to be still therefore the man was healed.

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  • watersRpeople
    Posted on August 5, 2012 at 10:06am

    People always have to get their hands into the pie to do things [to tweak things]. But doesn’t God always say: be still and know that I am the Lord? Maybe the idea of Ron Paul is for America to just be still.

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    • DetritusScreener
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 11:16am

      I am a Ron Paul supporter, but you are babbling and this is the wrong venue. Find an article with some relevance and make some coherent statements. Your analogies are extremely convoluted and ineffectual. Besides that, we are stuck with Romney so we can get rid of Obama. Just use the ‘Tool’ we have until we have a better ‘Tool’.

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    • ChildOfTheKing
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 11:56am

      @DetritusScreener:
      No, I do not think they are babbling. I THINK YOU ARE A FORCEFUL SOUL, JUST LIKE A TYPICAL LIBERAL, who believes no one is correct but you. I CALL THAT CLOSE-MINDED and IGNORANT.

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    • Kupo
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 1:19pm

      ChildoftheKing

      Uh, now YOU‘RE the one who’s babbling

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    • usedCZARsalesman
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 4:44pm

      CHILD…if he isn‘t babbling then tell us what the hell he means cause we can’t understand a thing he‘s saying about RP and ’being still’

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  • ThePostman
    Posted on August 5, 2012 at 9:58am

    Welcome to Obamacare.

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  • sawbuck
    Posted on August 5, 2012 at 9:56am

    This man appears to have done this act out of love and not wanting to see his wife suffer…

    Ok ..That sounded logical didn’t it…?

    Atheist want to keep touting their lifestyle.. But when the chips are down and when life hits them below the belt ..This is their answer to some of life’s hardest hitting dilemma’s .. this kind of action
    can be laid at the feet of their belief.. No belief in God means they have no hope in super natural intervention…Meaning they do not believe in miracles . They rationalize everything as factual and mere coincidence ..But when they are presented with a problem such as this.. They quickly conclude the outcome because they don’t believe in any God that could possibly intervene and change the outcome…This is how they live.. and this is a typical response to a situation
    That is out of their control. So they divert back to their most logical outcome of the situation and then rely on their own understanding too rationalize this behavior …I would go as far to say that they would probably think …A person is a coward for not being so compassionate toward their spouse of forty odd years.. For not trying to put them out of their misery…Unless they have lots of money..
    Then of course they would freeze them until future advances in medicine can be obtained.

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    • woebegone
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 10:09am

      I get you but I have worked in health care for a long time. Wait for a miracle all you like. The vast majority of people suffer and die suffering because we are all waiting for a miracle. But the miracles don’t happen 99.999% of the time. On those occasions that they do happen, do you really think that God’s will will be undone by the paltry acts of Men? Back to basics for you I think: ‘God’s will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven.’

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    • searching for the Truth
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 10:25am

      Depends on what Church one resides.

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    • sawbuck
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 10:50am

      @woebegone
      I said:
      ‘ They rationalize everything as factual and mere coincidence ..’

      ___________________________________________________

      You said:

      ‘Wait for a miracle all you like. The vast majority of people suffer and die
      suffering because we are all waiting for a miracle. But the miracles don’t
      happen 99.999% of the time’
      __________________________________________________________

      You didn’t factor in the people that were miss-diagnose.
      False alarms…and any other reason that you clowns can think of
      to NOT give The Glory to God and justify your rational thinking…
      You label ALL these cases as ‘mere coincidences’
      Thank you for proving my point. .I rest my case

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    • SCREW-WINDOWS
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 11:06am

      My neighbor is dying of cancer he could be in the hospital but he chose not to he wants to die in peace at home and thats his right to choose not to burden his family with bills.

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    • woebegone
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 12:36pm

      Sawbuck–all due respect to your heartfelt wishes to those that are in the process of losing someone they love. I absolutely have nothing but respect for that. But the truth is that there is a whole segment of professionals that specialize in ‘end of life’ care, they steward people to death and help their families through the death of so many people. These people are not slathering to hurry death, what they do is try to make a death as peaceful, and comfortable as possible. If a miracle happens, they would be the happiest of all. But if a miracle doesn’t happen–where is the harm in accepting that the death is inevitable, and making it as comfortable as possible. I am sorry to say this, but I would suggest that perhaps you need more experience with the dying, you comments seem to reveal that this is alien to you.

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    • sawbuck
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 6:03pm

      woebegone
      My comment was geared to people that feel the urge
      to put their loved one down like a dog ,because they have
      “no hope ’ and somehow this makes them feel they have
      some kind of power over the situation.
      And they conclude that their only option is to kill their spouse
      and try to put them out of their misery..
      But somehow oh wise one ..You missed that…
      Then you go all miss manners on me with your little tangent ,
      On declaring what is proper etiquette for end of life care
      and what is the proper way is to deal with a person that
      faces death.
      And then you try to draw some kind of parallel to quality
      ‘end of life care’ …To this man who just shot his wife .
      I find your line of thinking on this kind of disturbing..
      In fact you go out of your way not to address his actions ..
      But instead choose to direct your hostility toward me and
      my ability to show compassion.
      My comment was ..”again”…Geared to his “act’ ..That seems
      to be a more and more acceptable trend among people with
      NO faith these days..
      And even though my heart goes out to this family ..
      I’m addressing a much bigger issue here..
      The difference between someone that has God to turn to .
      And someone that has NO God to turn to..
      I’m not sure if I totally understood your comment,
      do to the fact it was dripping with sarcasm like a poison pill..

      But My idea of quality and loving ‘end of life care’.
      Doesn’t involve a firearm..!

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  • hatchetjob
    Posted on August 5, 2012 at 9:52am

    Is TSA groping going to come to hospitals now in search of guns and knives?

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  • azcowboy1
    Posted on August 5, 2012 at 9:34am

    They lawyers don’t like this. They haven’t milked her dry yet…
    jH…

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  • Thighmaster
    Posted on August 5, 2012 at 9:17am

    Maybe he‘s read the bill and he knows what’s in it. It‘s possible that it’s phase one of Obamacare.

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  • LeadNotFollow
    Posted on August 5, 2012 at 9:16am

    …
    The story states, “Wise was being held for attempted murder…..”
    Attempted murder. She is not dead yet. This poor woman was already in intensive care with a life-threatening condition, and her husband injures her even further by shooting her.

    Even if he was just trying to put her out of her misery, he really screwed up, and put her in more misery. He has caused her even more pain and suffering.
    Either this guy has the world’s worst aim, or he used a low caliber pistol, and/or the wrong type of bullets.

    This story is so heartbreaking. My prayers go out to this woman.

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    • SERUM
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 10:20am

      Did he shoot her for her suffering or his?

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    • the_truth_or_not
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 12:05pm

      No one knows Lead, the motive i unclear and every post here is based on wild conjecture.

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    • the_truth_or_not
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 12:07pm

      My apologies, My last coment shoud hae been directed to Serum.

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  • cdb
    Posted on August 5, 2012 at 9:15am

    Impatience. Having his wife sick all those years was just to much for the man. However, all he had to do is wait until Obama care was completely implemented, and the government would have terminated her life as a cost cutting measure.

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  • watersRpeople
    Posted on August 5, 2012 at 9:12am

    There is no evil in the earth other than the evils that men have caused, by which men have built barriers, walls, and gutters between themselves, nations, and families. When the light of the Lord shines upon the earth it makes it seem as if the Lord is bringing evil, but the light of the Lord is shining it’s light on the evil men have caused, whereby evil seems rampant. Just as the creeping things will flee to and fro when the light in a room is turned on.

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    • woebegone
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 9:58am

      Blah, blah, blah…I’m expressing my insane religiosity…blah, blah…so there!

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    • watersRpeople
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 10:17am

      It’s like I have explained that it is that death and hell is tossed on the sea of fire. How many people want people to fight? Many, because they are waiting for the movement of the waters.

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  • stumpy68
    Posted on August 5, 2012 at 9:04am

    When my gram was dying of cancer i overheard
    my grandfather offer to do the same thing for her
    she decided not to , didn’t want to get him into trouble.

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    • ca77
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 9:55am

      Certain medical conditions are so painful that our current means of controlling pain are not effective. Who wants to see their loved one dying and screaming in pain?

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    • Certainperson
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 11:56am

      Dying in pain is fine if you really feel you need to. I’m not against that. However, for myself? I would beg my family to do me in. Pain that is so horrendous that it can’t be controlled, and you are going to die anyway? C’mon folks…

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  • watersRpeople
    Posted on August 5, 2012 at 9:01am

    And the Lord God looked down on George Washington, and said, “My spirit shall not always strive with man, for he is also flesh; yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.”
    Now this is the amount of time that it took for George Washington’s affects on the U.S to wear off.
    And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continuing.

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  • teddrunk
    Posted on August 5, 2012 at 8:57am

    Very sad story. There may be more to this story than what appears. May Our Lord bring her soul to peace in heaven.

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  • love the kids
    Posted on August 5, 2012 at 8:50am

    This may be a story of a loving man putting his “Love of his life” out of her suffering because of her wishes. May God bless all involved.

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    • jcldwl
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 9:17am

      And you ask God’s blessing on an attempted murderous act like this. Not acceptable either way. What he did was wrong according to our law but most importantly according to God’s law. I can find no where in the bible that promotes killing another. All I can find is “thou shalt not murder.”

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    • stumpy68
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 9:29am

      @jcldwl
      But that’s the tricky bit is ending a life early thats ending anyway
      with the consent of the dieing person “murder” i could argue both sides
      its an issue that will never be decided to everyone’s satisfaction.

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    • Thighmaster
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 9:30am

      What about Jericho ? Didn’t God tell Joshua to spare no one except Rahab and her family?

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    • historyguy48
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 9:42am

      Comrade the truth of this is that killing someone is only murder when it is done by anyone but the State. That’s why Dear Leader has his kill list. That‘s why Obamacare has it’s death panels.That’s why it is against the law for you to even take your own life.
      Isn’t Big Brother wonderful?

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    • woebegone
      Posted on August 5, 2012 at 9:48am

      No one knows what conversations went on between them except them. While my first inclination is to think you’re correct, then I think what would be the point of shooting her with a Doctor in the room. That speaks more to the passion of outright murder that the acceptance of releasing someone you love from suffering. Plus she apparently was “standing” by the bed when she was shot. So even if he was “honoring her wishes”, it seems a tad premature–very few people are standing if they are in severe pain , even fewer who are on the brink of death. Finally, a gun?, in a hospital? in the ICU? The “loving” interpretation begins to wear to threadbare. Maybe it was and the guy was just incredibly stupid and over anxious, but given the big picture…..

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