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Ohio Veteran Fighting HOA to Fly American Flag on Pole Outside House

A dispute over whether a 77-year-old Ohio Army veteran can erect a flag pole in his yard and fly an American flag has sparked a heated debate in Macedonia, OH. In fact, the local American Legion post has staged a protest, while the local news reports the issue has turned “neighbor against neighbor.”

The controversy centers around Fred Quigley and his fight against the homeowners association (HOA) at the Villas at Taramina in Macedonia. Quigley says the HOA won’t let him fly an American flag on his own property. The HOA says it has nothing to do with the flag, and everything to do with the rules that bar flag poles. The association says it has offered to fly two American flags near the entrance of the complex, and also said Quigley can fly a flag as long as it is attached to a holder that protrudes from his house. But both options are not enough to satisfy Quigley.

“We just want the rules and regulations followed,” Joseph Migliorini, who represents the homeowners association and owns the property, told Newsnet5.com. He added that homeowners need special permission to install flag poles, and Quigley did not get his pole approved. According to the website, several neighbors have complained that Quigley’s pole does not meet HOA standards.

“If they can dictate to me that I cannot fly an American flag in America, then, to me, the country is lost,” Quigley told Newsnet5.com.

“Nobody can restrict the right to display the flag,” he said, and his attorney, Gerald Patronite, said Quigley has both federal and state law forbidding flag-flying restrictions on his side:

The debate has fired up the local community. The local American Legion post hosted a flag-raising last Tuesday to protest the HOA’s decision, an event that drew a crowd:

Ohio Veteran Fighting HOA to Fly American Flag on Pole Outside House

As Newsnet5.com notes in a follow-up report, the controversy has turned neighbor against neighbor:

Quigley and Migliorini will now fight out the battle in court. Migliorini has reportedly said he will abide by the court’s decision if he loses.

What do you think?


(H/T: Daily Mail)

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  • TheDebtWeAllPay
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 10:06am

    Good luck taking my flag away court decision or not

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  • Batjak456
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 10:03am

    @ ED FROM JUSTICE

    What is your problem?
    You sound off like you’re an attorney.
    And, THAT sir, is one of the biggest problems this country has.
    Too many lawyers gettin’ in the way of common sense.
    Somebody needs to get you ‘sorted out’.

    BATJAK456
    A 100% disabled (United States) Air Force veteran
    C-130‘s ’64-’72

    ALL GAVE SOME
    SOME GAVE ALL

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    • Ed from Justice
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 10:36am

      I am not an attorney, I agree with you that we have way too many of them and they are a big part of the problem with our medical cost ( I believe in “loser pay” ) I am a veteran who has served his country in three branches of service, I have a daughter who is a Lt. Cdr in the US Coast Guard. I fly my us flag everywhere I go, including on the lapel of my jacket.. I love it very much and everything it stands for. Apparently you are confused. This gentleman purchased a home in a location which is governed by a home owner’s association (it probably is a townhouse) He knew the rules when he closed on the house. They give you a copy of the bylaws before you sign . The bylaws are like the constitution of the US. They govern the use of the common property. There is always a proceedure for changing them. Once you decide to let somone have an exception to the bylaws you have to let someone else. I know this is hard for someone to understand who has a single family home, but the reason for the bylaws is to protect the rights of everyone in the association. Having volunteered to serve, I do not plaly the veteran card to get my way. The country has given me everything I am entitled to.

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    • Ed from Justice
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 10:40am

      I have flown many miles on C130s and they are still in use today and I still agree with the homeowner’s association. on this one.

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    • CrazyJ
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 11:51am

      yea who needs all that book learnin anyway? common sense FTW!!! … really dude? he doesn’t sound like a lawyer only someone concerned for the rules…yep thats what makes this country and society function..obeying the rules and laws set forth for everyone to obey… its sensible…and common really.

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  • Nepenthe
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:53am

    “If they can dictate to me that I cannot fly an American flag in America, then, to me, the country is lost,” Quigley told Newsnet5.com.

    Really? Well, I submit that if we allow citizens to break laws and regulations that they willingly signed on to, then the country is lost. You, sir, are the one who agreed to this policy, so you are bound by Duty, an Army value, to follow the policy.

    “Nobody can restrict the right to display the flag,” he said,

    Your right to fly a flag was not restricted. You right to fly a flag by a flag pole was restricted. As the article clearly states, you are fully allowed to fly an American Flag by the rules of which you agreed to follow.

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    • CrazyJ
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 10:04am

      no doubt hannity will be headlining this story tonight. he is gaga over these types of stories that appear to be infringing on our rights to be americans in american when it turns out to be nothing more than a rouge moron who doesn’t get the concept of society.

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    • let us prey
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 10:52am

      @crazy j
      Moron is a little strong for a veteran when it is concerning a flag. A concern may be for the neighbors who complained? Makes me wonder what they see as a representation of our great country.
      It also sounds like you respect nothing except your own opinion IMO. Talk to a vet some time and maybe they could enlighten you on struggle and pride.

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    • CrazyJ
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 11:48am

      as you’ll notice I did not directly call the vet a moron but nice rhetorical attempt to make it seem as if I did. My mentioning of the term moron was an all inclusive moniker of those that choose to ignore the rules and guidelines they and others have agreed to follow, only to abandon them and all reason when it comes to something they suddenly feel strong about. I have talked to many vets thank you, my family is full of them, I have a cousin serving as a marine as we speak not to mention the long history of my family in wars in this country throughout its history. I have also talked to other vets who were morons. Being a vet does not remove that trait about you. I respect them and honor them, and thank them for my freedom. This does not grant them the right to fly a flag on a flag pole they agreed to not do in the first place.

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  • Southernguy
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:49am

    Sticky situation, lol. If they wouldn’t let me have a flag pole, I’d cover my whole front porch with the flag, and hang em from every tree on my property ;)

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    • Ed from Justice
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 10:20am

      Southern Guy..It isn’t his property. It belongs to everyone in the HA. It is common property. When you buy a place like this, you own the inside and the other members and you own the outside or common property. There is a set of rules called bylaws which govern what can be set up on the property… This is because everyone pays into the maintenance, insurance, etc associated with the outside. If you own a single family house on your own property, you can do what you want. When you purchase in an association in advance you know the rules.

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  • APROUDVETERAN
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:48am

    I wonder how many Vets sit on that HOA board…..I’m sure there isnt a one of them who put their butts on the line to serve their country….It always amazed me how in time of armed conflict all civilians sang our praises while we were out doing our duty….but then GI’s came home and were quickly forgotten….here’s a guy doing the right thing and these sad excuses for Americans try to knock him down…..SCREW ‘EM and fly OLD GLORY everyday….and shine a light on her and fly her day and night…..!!!

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    • Rickfromillinois
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 10:59am

      I’m a vet and retired military and I say he is wrong. He agreed to the HOA’s rules when he moved there. If he doesn’t like the rules then he should take steps to change them, not ignore them. He signed the paper saying that he agreed to abide by the rules no matter how stupid. That is why I would never agree to live in a HOA neighborhood but he did and he should live with it.

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  • 9X18
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:45am

    Fly the Flag, read the Bible and carry your weapon. This is still the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! We are about to celebrate the Fourth of July. I suppose the HOA will be skipping that holiday being they are more concerned about the their landscape than their country. After all they wouldn‘t even have an HOA if it wasn’ t for men like Fred Quigley. Get a taller pole and bigger flag Fred.

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    • CrazyJ
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:51am

      moronic sentiment. he is allowed to fly the flag. why abandon all reason when it comes to your patriotism? u are actually calling for anarchy, is that what this country is about? no.

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  • cassandra
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:45am

    they way things are now he should fly it upside down until obummer and all the communist,maxist is out of the WH

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  • CrazyJ
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:44am

    Come on rightwing nuts, you can’t stand for laws and rules and expect to make exceptions whenever they feel good. this is what you accuse the libs of doing. Quiguey is allowed to fly the flag but is not allowed to erect a flag pole. There is no story here except some one who wants to create anarchy by making up his own rules. He has the freedom to buy other property where on he can have as many poles as he wants. Don’t be stupid here and call for a flash mob of a million flags, its not about the flag, its about the rule of law…or rathe the rule of rules and he agreed to obey them. Shame on quigley.

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  • BOMUSTGO
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:43am

    Makes me ashamed to be from Ohio.

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  • JimmyT
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:43am

    If the rule say no flag pole –well then? All of you on this site saying he should go ahead and keep the pole I would bet are the same people that criticize left’s for getting away with breaking the law. Please, he can hang it from his house. OR. MAYBE he could do that other thing–ya know–lobby his neighbors to CHANGE the rule. I belonged to an HOA once, I know how it works.

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  • hightide
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:42am

    HOA’s are way out of bounds. What happened to freedom? I’ll fly my flag and park my camper on my property if I want to.

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    • All American American
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 11:10am

      He is “free” to live wherever the heck he chooses. He *freely* chose to live in that development, under that HOA’s rules. Follow them. You’d think an Army vet would understand about following rules, duty, honor, etc.

      (As an aside this is why its hard for me to get excited about right wing tea parties and such–for the most part these comments are the same as if this story was on dailykos and the flag in question was a Mexican or gay pride flag. Freedom is fine, as long as we agree. When we don’t agree, you’re a “lib troll.”)

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  • Rickfromillinois
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:40am

    I am a disabled veteran and am retired from the U.S. Army. I fly the United States flag in front of my house every day of the year. I would never live in a H.O.A. neighborhood. You have to give up too many personal freedoms in order to live there. That being said, I think that this man is wrong. Were these rules in place when he moved there? If so he knew about the rules and moved there anyway, then since he has agreed to those rules he should live by them. I will gladly support him if he wants to take steps to get the rules changed, but I do not think that it is right for him to ignore them. Once again, he should have been aware of that rule when he moved in and should abide by them.

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  • Ed from Justice
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:37am

    Hey I am a USMC veteran , a veteran of the US Army Reserve , and the US Navy Reserve. I was honorably discharged from each and left the Marine Corps as a Gunnery Sgt. I also went to a couple of Air Force schools. When you purchase a home in an area governed by a home owner’s association you are given a copy of the by-laws when you close. You know the rules in advance. I am sure that if this gentleman wants to put a flag in a holder on his porch he can do so if he wants to set up a flag pole on common property he probably cannot. This has noting to do with politics or patriotism, it has to do with the fact that if you make an exception for one person you have to make exceptions for others. They can paint their door purple, put in a swimming pool etc. and once the precedence is set you have to accomodate every idea that comes along. If you find someone who loves the flag more than I do, then I will kiss your rear end on the busiest corner of your town at high noon and give you 30 minutes to draw a crowd, but I am with the Homeowner’s Association on this one. An alternative solution is for the Gentleman to go through the process of having the bylaws changed. There will certainly be a section that allows you to get enough of your neighbors who agree with you to get that done. If you don’t want to follow the rules, then you could buy a single family home somewhere and do what you want. Of course there would be city ordinances etc to follow.

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    • monkeymom
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 10:21am

      Yes indeed Ed. The article actually says that the HOA allows flags in holders that are attached to the house. As long as there is some allowance to fly a decent-sized flag, I have no problem with the HOA not allowing poles. I hate HOAs, and I hate the “Stepford” looks of HOA tract housing – but if you move into a community with an HOA, you have to deal with their rules within reason.

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    • rockstone
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 11:11am

      Bravo! Thank you for your service!

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  • godhead
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:37am

    I’m cool with him. He can fly it. I can burn it. And America sustains.

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    • spotster
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 10:39am

      i bet your life you wont burn one in front of me.

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  • rightwinger76
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:32am

    You know the rules when you sign the covenant agreement. I fly my flag every day, Mr. Quigley is able to as well. He just needs to abide by the rules HE SIGNED ON TO!

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    • Runandtellthat
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:02pm

      well,well, what an education this gives me about the readers of the blaze. If you came down on this issue anywhere other then *he knew the rules, if not, he should have.* You”re more of a lib then you understand. You’re guided by emotion not logic.

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  • rockstone
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:28am

    I support this man whole heartedly in his quest. That way I’ll be able to fly my huge Rainbow Flag in defiance of my HOA rules. The rules I clearly understood when I bought my house. My neighbor will dig it also. He’s a muslim and wants to fly this huge crescent moon flag. The guy down the street wants to fly a purple big fist SEIU flag. And then there’s some other people ……………

    I’m kidding of course, but folks, be careful what you wish for.

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    • Realman30
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 10:24am

      You post like a liberal.

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    • spotster
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 10:37am

      go away troll

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    • rockstone
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 11:08am

      If standing AGAINST a class system, a sytem that says one pig is more equal than another pig well then, maybe you are correct and I do indeed post like a lib.

      Here’s the question pal. If you allow him his flag, what do you say to others? Do you tell them no, their flag doesn’t qualify? Do you do that with the full force of the law behind you?

      That’s not an America our service people fought and died for. You should know better.

      And do you say that at gunpoint?

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    • Hemingway in Cuba
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 11:44am

      You post like a liberal? Yeah, like a libertarian who believes in the rights of everyone.

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  • BibleGunClinger
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:23am

    My answer to this issue……….To all Home Owners Associations – No flag poles allowed unless used to fly the American Flag (thats the Red, White & Blue to all you libs & socialists out there). No Mexican, Islamist or gay flags allowed to be flown. NO EXCEPTIONS

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  • NWalters78
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:21am

    I support this vet, and screw the HOAs. Bunch of stuck up snobs and Nanny State types. Although, just wait some of the pious and sneering ‘follow the rules no matter what’ types will come in and slam this vet. The minute, you (sneering rule types) have taken fire or bled for the US, you can squack. Til then, STHU.

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  • BrerRabbit
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:20am

    He knew the rules when he moved in. Live with them.

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    • danrighty
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:27am

      Spoken like a true left wing ******. Nothing more need be said.

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    • Nepenthe
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:56am

      “Spoken like a true left wing ******. Nothing more need be said.”

      So, what you are saying here is that living up to one’s obligations under contract which they willingly signed, a concept also known as ‘Duty’, is not a conservative value.

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    • ksferris
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 10:21am

      state and federal laws supersede the HOA; maybe the Association and the neighbors should have read the fed/state laws before passing such a regulation. If they expect the home owner to abide by and accept the Associations regulations, it seems only right that the HOA should abide by and accept federal and state laws as well.

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    • American Soldier (Separated)
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 6:05pm

      What rule or law is the HOA breaking? There is no law that says he has the right to put a flag pole in his front yard. You honestly believe the federal or state government should have the power to dictate this?

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    • kevinbogard
      Posted on July 3, 2011 at 12:33pm

      You say that now until they come for you…. unless you’re one of them. AND it’s your flag too! wake up

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:20am

    .
    Can you say FLASH MOB with a MILLION FLAGS………………

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    • Moved to Montreal
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:26pm

      How about a billion! This veteran has earned his God given right to fly the flag. I don’t understand the direction this country is heading, but hopefully when I get back to the US OBOZO will not be in office.

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  • Stu Pedaso
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:19am

    My association told me the same thing. I do not have a free standing flag pole, but they have yet to come and remove my flag. If they do I believe we may have “issues” to be resolved. It has been about seven years since my last warning. Maybe they have just forgotten about me.

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    • rxdawg72
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 8:58pm

      Nah, they just slapped some liens on your house….

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  • windycitywoman
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:15am

    Good for this vet! We send these men and women off to fight for our freedom and when they get home we show shame of our own country! All of our military men and women need to take a stand against crap like this and it will stop! If they rose up and said we are not going to fight on behalf of a country that shows indifference they could be the ones to actually stop this!

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  • I_Hate_Libs
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:13am

    Of course they cant tell him he cant fly the American flag.

    The horror of the Democrat mind.

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    • SpankDaMonkey
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:49am

      .
      I don’t think a couple of cells bouncing around like a BB in a box car, is a mind….

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    • Nepenthe
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:54am

      “Of course they cant tell him he cant fly the American flag.”

      Well, then, it is a good thing they didn’t tell him that.

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    • Oldphoto678
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 10:06am

      The HOA didn‘t tell him he couldn’t fly the flag. They told him he can’t put up a flag pole. You have a right to your own opinion. NOT your own facts.

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    • GiveUsJustice
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 11:43am

      I dislike Libs as well!

      But you didn’t read the article obviously.

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    • American Soldier (Separated)
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 6:04pm

      @OLDPHOTO678 that was pretty funny!

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  • Darla_K
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:09am

    Fly it high and fly it proud. :)

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    • lovenfl3
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:13am

      Let the guy fly his flag. Home owners associations are one of the worst things to happen to a society that was built on freedom and liberty. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIOFzLIZjh4

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    • SpankDaMonkey
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:15am

      .
      People in Macedonia, OH. should show support by going to the store and buy a American and go plant it in the neighborhood. THEN STAND THERE AND PROTECT IT………..

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    • mikelivi
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 10:12am

      Hey stogiegy7, this IS whats wrong with our country! F you and f the “bylaws” of some crap condo complex. This is AMERICA and I for one will fly our flag anywhere anytime. YOU are whats wrong with America! Go F yourself!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • Truth Wins Every Time
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:27pm

      lovenfl3

      And he and everyone has the right to move where they want, AFTER you check all the rules.
      HOA‘s are more like a concentration camp of well to do’s. Set the rules so everyone is the same.
      Same house layout. Same size yard cut to an exact measurement.
      No leaving your car in the driveway, must be in garage, out of site.
      Same color trash cans, and/or trash bags.
      We have Freedom and Liberty [at least for now] so think very carefully about where you decide to live.

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    • Truth Wins Every Time
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:31pm

      SpankDaMonkey
      LOL. Just wondering where I buy an American? Is it hard to get that American to stand still while you plant him? But I know what you meant.

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    • dealer@678
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:38pm

      The Hells Angels need to pay the HOA a little visit

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    • American Soldier (Separated)
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 6:02pm

      @SPANKDAMONKEY Are you advocating for people to trespass on another person’s property, plant a flag then occupy the land by force? I suppose that’s pretty damn American!

      @DEALER@678 Ahh yes, let’s unleash a violent gang on property owners that came together and decided the rules for their HOA and neighborhood. That’s cool.

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:08am

    .
    We need to Flash Mob this HOA with about a million Flags…..

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:23am

      I agree with you there; a flash mob of peaceful protest with millions of flags, maybe even a few as large as the one flying from the 1812 war in which the Star Spangled Banner was the inspiration for its author.

      This HOA is in the wrong, and based on the activity mentioned in other stories on the web, seems to be targeting veterans almost exculisively.

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    • fastfacts
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:33am

      THIS SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN IN THE UNITED STATES:

      Remember when someone on a field trip tried to sing the national Anthem at one of the DC memorials. They were kicked out. Then there was one that was reciting an address given by a founding father at a memorial and was kicked out. Now I can understand, maybe, about those adults inside a memorial asked to take it outside, but the others, how is this possible.

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    • afishfarted
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:37am

      being a vet myself, yeah I say let him fly it. but the HOA isn’t denying him the right to fly.The HOA has guidlines and rules for how and where to fly it. If someone knowingly moves into a neighborhood with an HOA, then they are bound to follow the rules.

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:51am

      I don‘t know this man’s record of service to our country, but at any rate, he has earned the right to fly the Stars and Stripes in his front yard.
      And the neighbors that complained should be ashamed of themselves! They should be proud to have him for a neighbor instead.
      I hate those kind of HOA ‘communities’. Seems there is always some jerk stirring up trouble for someone in the neighborhood.

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    • Whitey4West
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:53am

      Am I the only person who can’t vote in polls on the TheBlaze??

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    • Mrtoohappy
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:54am

      They aren‘t saying her can’t have the flag, they just don’t want the pole. Other homes near him had the flag flying off their homes. I don’t think I would want the pole in the front yard either.

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    • stogieguy7
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:55am

      Hey guys, the abuse of the flag ****** me off more than most. When I see little creeps burning and/or desecrating the flag, I yearn to be the first one there with a baseball bat.

      But in this case, I am sorry but I disagree with pretty much all of you. When you move into a condo complex, you lose the right to make exterior alterations. That includes the installation of a flag pole. These things are written in the bylaws and Mr. Quigley should know that. If you want to install a pole, you really should own the property. When you buy a condo, you only own the interior of that condo. The land is community property. Personally, I hate that arrangement and that’s why we never considered a condo. But Mr. Quigley lives in one and he has to follow the rules. We may not like it that those rules prevent him from flying Old Glory on a flagpole, but they also prevent other less desirable alterations as well. Sorry, but the HOA is right in this case.

      Let’s save our anger for the many other battles out there where lefties are flouting the rules and destroying the country. Like Barry Hussein Soetoro Obama’s back-door amnesty for criminal illegal aliens.

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    • mikelivi
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 10:08am

      I say fly Old Glory and tell everybody to kiss his red white and blue ass!!!!!!!! Enough of this sh*t! Fly that flag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • Rational Man
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 10:15am

      Sounds like a real nice ‘cookie cutter’ neighborhood. Why would anyone want to live there anyway?
      Individualism is dead. I just invision a bunch of robots wandering around wearing the same clothes and driving the same little cars. There is only 3 or 4 colors of houses in the neighborhood. Only the same 3 or 4 styles of house with the only choice you have is which side of the house you want your garage on.
      “OOOOH, I’ll be different and take the one with the garage on the left side.”
      Sounds like it has all the charm of a prison!

      Besides, who wants to live in a neighborhood without at least a couple of junky pickups setting out in the street?……he he he………..

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    • encinom
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 10:19am

      Sorry, but where are the defenders of Rand. The Vet by buying a home governed by a HOA, enter into an agreement with them to abid by certain rules. He had a choice about buying that home.

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    • sissykatz
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 10:21am

      Stogie Guy I have to agree with you. I hate HOA rules that is why I would never move where they would have them. I think he has a right to fly his flag and they are offering it just not on the Pole. I wish I could agree with him because I love the Flying Flag. But he should not have moved in there with that in the rules. I am sorry I hate to go against a Veteren on anything but he is in the wrong.

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    • suicidekings
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 10:31am

      Don’t forget the flag poles…

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    • jzs
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 10:34am

      The guy signed a contract, now he wants to break it.

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    • TomFerrari
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 10:49am

      HOA – Smache-oh-aye

      HOA’s have LOTS of CC&R’s or whatever they are called now.
      They have NO weight in fact.
      They put MULTIPLE satellite dishes on the FRONT of their homes.
      The foreclosed homes hav grass 3 feet high.
      The neighbors speed.
      The pools are used by non-residents.
      People drink alcohol at the pools.
      People litter their lawns with pink flamingos.
      They leave their Christmas tree lights up all year.
      They repaint their homes in obnoxious colors.
      THEY DON’T PAY THEIR HOA DUES.
      And what happens?
      Nothing!
      HOA’s have no real enforcement ability.

      FLY THE FLAG.

      What REALLY ticks me off, is that DEVELOPERS who are limited in using signage, USE the flag of the U.S.of A., as the loophole, and post FIFTY of them around the developments to draw attention – their own flags exceed the legal square footage for signs, so they USE our flag for ADVERTISING!!

      Take it to the SCOTUS!

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    • NSDQ
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 11:10am

      If he declares it as a Ham radio antenna theres nothing they can do

      http://ohiohousegop.blogspot.com/2011/06/ohio-house-passes-legislation-to.html

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    • mikem1969
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 11:14am

      The HOA is wrong period. I agree with the flash mob thing, let’s do it. In AMERICA you should be able to fly and or display the AMERICAN flag in proper form ANY WHERE YOU WANT.

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    • Cerealface
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 11:31am

      A lady with short hair, jeans, and white t-shirt, calling the American flag on a flag pole Not Attractive.
      She’s a lesbian.

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    • SmallGovernment
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 11:36am

      What about the HOA’s that dictate to land owners what they can and cannot do on there land? (Subdivisions, not condos)

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 11:37am

      you can’t tell a person that they cannot fly the American flag within American borders. EVER. how pathetic. that HOA is treasonous.

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    • jb.kibs
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 11:37am

      blaze polls, and ‘report post’ do not work. epic web designer failure.

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    • GiveUsJustice
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 11:41am

      You can tell who is reading the article and who is just reading the title.

      People, no where did it say he can’t fly an American flag.. good lord.

      Put something else in your comments besides.. “Let him fly it”. Justify why he should or shouldn’t be allowed to put the pole in his yard. The article clearly states he is allowed to use other methods to fly a flag.

      And yes Whitey, I can’t use polls here either for some reason.

      There is nothing much to say to the article besides what the people actually reading it agree to. He should have read his contracts and should be following the rules. Don’t use the excuse “it’s the American Flag” just to break rules set out by someone. That’s just making the flag look bad when you are purposefully going against someone. (IMO)

      If I were him, I’d just put up American flags on multiple spots on my home to show my pride.

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    • Ronko
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 11:42am

      Screw the HOA, keep the flag up even if you lose the case.

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    • CatB
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 11:44am

      Never buy a home in an HOA .. we found out with my son how horrible it can become even if it starts out okay. That said . why can’t I ever vote on this site…. I can vote EVERYWHERE else?

      TEA!

      I stand with the man and his flag!

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    • MercyMe
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 11:50am

      Shame I can’t vote in this poll (or any other on this site, apparently). I would vote on the side of the vet.

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:06pm

      Mr Fred Quigley, Fly OL’GLORY Proudly and HIGH. FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!

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    • bbdarthchris077
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 12:35pm

      I did not even bother checking my HOA rules when I put mine up around 3 years ago. Of course I live in Texas though. All yall need to come move to Texas and enjoy true freedom, have not seen anything here in this state that compares to this unless it was in Houston or Austin, bunch of nuts in those two cities from CA, but we have plan for them.

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    • _waTson_
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:04pm

      Bless his heart and sheesh ☻

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    • Dahart
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:15pm

      I have worked in the real estate…. You would be hard pressed now days to find a community that dose not have an HOA…..with that seid HOA’S should be outlawed!

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    • Jediusetheforce
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:22pm

      Home owner associations are a joke..another way to get your money.

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    • summit912
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:35pm

      Met with Mr. Quigley and is wife yesterday to drop off a donation for his legal fund. There is another flag raising ceremony planned for the morning of the 4th of July according to him. I encourage anyone in the area to plan to attend. He will post details on his facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fred-Quigley-keep-flying-your-flag/182833075104724?sk=wall&filter=1

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    • GiGi80
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 1:41pm

      This is not about “flying the flag” — this angry man can attach a flag pole to his home (as we have beside our front door from which we proudly display the American flag) and fly the flag. He can also salute the two flags that the homeowners’ association has offered to put up. This is about a sense of entitlement in the guise of false patriotism. When you buy a home in a community such as this, you sign an agreement that limits certain “enhancements” to the property. How does breaking this contract translate into a patriotic statement? And those of you who want to “flash mob” the association: what an awesome display of respect for your fellow American citizens.

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    • Browncoat359
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:48pm

      This happens all the time and the outcome is always the same;the housing authority(or whatever group that serves this same function) wins. They win because these regs are in your homeowners agreement,ya don‘t like the rules then don’t move in.
      I always sympathize with those that are barred from flying the flag in the manner they see fit to do so,but the decision isn’t theirs alone to make. He signed a contract stating he would abide by the housing authority’s rules and now he wants to violate the contract.
      I hope he wins but this is not new and itreally isn’t news by much either. These housing groups need to pay attention to all of these cases and remove clauses forbidding/severely restricting flags or flagpoles.

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    • zorro
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 2:54pm

      He shouldn‘t be allowed to break the rules just because he’s a veteran. I’m really getting sick of these damn whinners making all veterans look bad. Most of us understand the importance of rules and regulations. You don’t like them? There are avenues available so you can change them. You don‘t just take it upon yourself to follow the rules you like and not follow the ones you don’t.

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    • Lawlcat001
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 3:13pm

      This is the same thing as Islamists coming into America and expecting Shariah Law. Pardon my language, but f that. If the old coot doesn’t want to live in a neighborhood where he ALREADY KNEW, GETTING INTO IT, that he couldn’t erect a massive metal pole in his front lawn, then MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE! The HomeOwners Assoc. is not being anti-american, they are being LAW-ABIDING, ANTI-PROPERTY-DEVALUATIONISTS [to coin a new term]. If Green House is next to Blue House, and Green House puts in a pool, BOTH houses increase in value; similarly, if Blue House erects a flag pole in an otherwise flag-pole-less [by rule] neighborhood, it’s going to decrease the Blue House property AND the adjacent properties. Look – I’m all for Flag Flying Freedom, but when he can fly a daggone flag jutting out from his front porch, HE NEEDS TO GET OVER HIMSELF or MOOOVE!

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    • Omanhater
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 3:35pm

      Linda Short “Its unattractive.” Has she looked in a mirror? The HOA needs to ban her.

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    • dwell2
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 4:00pm

      OK, I’m a flag waver, but let‘s say I’m his neighbor. What he’s got there is great big wind chime. Everytime the wind blows, that metal hook goes cling! cling! cling! cling! cling! cling! cling!…oh mercy! I can’t stop! cling! cling! cling!

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    • Ranubis
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 4:12pm

      HOA is not saying he can’t fly the flag, they‘re saying he can’t erect the pole to fly the flag. They said he could fly a flag that IS attached to his house. He moved into the HOA KNOWING there are rules to follow.

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    • American Soldier (Separated)
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 4:42pm

      Let me just say that I hate HOA’s. When I bought my home, I made sure there were no HOA’s anywhere near it nor the thought of creating one cross into the minds of the neighbors. I hate the concept of HOA’s. I understand why some people like them or why people see them as necessary.

      That being said, did the man live there prior to the HOA being created? If so, did he agree to the HOA? Did he move into the community knowing there was an HOA which has certain guidelines that he agreed to when purchasing his house?

      When you make that agreement with the HOA, you signed your own slavery notice. An HOA has the right to restrict and require certain things. I have served in the Army. I love our flag, I have a lot of respect for it’s symbolism. The issue here is the flag pole. If the HOA clearly stated in it’s guidelines that flag poles are not authorized, he has no fight. No matter how many people you get out there to protest. You all enjoy democracy, yes? Well the democracy in that community has spoken and they all agreed: No flag poles. Some people don’t like the look. I know there’s at least 3 neighbors in my area that I see with flag poles. I don’t care that they have it but it does stick out.

      He should have known what he was going into moving into a community with an HOA. Ya know what, sometimes I wait an extra week before I mow my lawn. I would have been fined in an HOA. While the neighbors might get annoyed that I don’t mow my lawn as regularly as I should, N

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    • silentwatcher
      Posted on June 27, 2011 at 9:08pm

      Choose your battles well,,,and when you fight them, use whatever means necessary.

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    • kennyg933
      Posted on June 28, 2011 at 8:32am

      @ Spankmonkey: AGREED! A perfect remedy, perfect justice. Post it on somewhere in Ohio and let us know. Ohioans will show up, I’m sure. This could be something so big that you could see a bus tour going there for the flash mob. A media-blitzing flash mob with advance notice. Could you imagine? The Ohio Nat Guard called out to stop a mob of Americans from descending on an Ohio town with the intent of posting the colors? Talk about flushing the enemies from their hiding places! Amyone who flinches is a commie. Anyone who says ANYTHING other than ‘God Bless America’ is an enemy of the state. Make it happen, Ohio!

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    • kennyg933
      Posted on June 28, 2011 at 8:36am

      And the HOA bylaws should be amended to include the posting of the American flag with certain standards for size and placement. I wonder if this guy is on the Condo board?

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    • Wolf
      Posted on June 28, 2011 at 9:13am

      Who’s property is it? HOA has no business telling people what they can or canot do on their own property, regardless the lib neighbors whining about anything a homeowner does. More nanny state regulations from people who have too much time on their hands and no sense of self worth or see value in freedom.

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    • G3L
      Posted on June 30, 2011 at 5:56am

      Screw the HOA. If they want to control what can and cannot be done on your own property, they should be paying all the taxes on your property. Until then shut up. We should all go and place American Flags around the outside of the grounds and the residences should all fly the flag if they are true Americans. We need to fight for our country now more then ever. With Obama the American hater in office and all the lib American hating news outlets we have an uphill battle. However we are Americans and we do not quit when it gets tough we fight harder. GOD BLESS AMERICA THIS GREAT NATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • AFMomXs2
      Posted on July 3, 2011 at 11:42am

      Oh that would be amazing !!!

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