Olbermann Lashes Out at Obama With Nazi-Era Reference
- Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:02pm by
Jonathon M. Seidl
- Print »
- Email »
The list of liberal pundits jumping from the Obama ship keeps growing. Add to it Keith Olbermann. During Tuesday Night’s “Countdown,“ Olbermann ranted for over 11 minutes about Obamas ”tax cut” deal with Republicans. But always the class act, and original, Olbermann made sure to get in a Nazi reference.
As Mediaite’s Tommy Christopher points out, Olbermann tried to tip-toe around the reference, but it was still pretty clear:
He might deny it, using a lace doily of a fig leaf that would embarrass even Rush Limbaugh, but Countdown host Keith Olbermann’s “Special Comment” Tuesday night heavily featured that most Godwinian of rhetorical devices: the Nazi comparison.
So what did Olbermann say? Well after opening his rant with a Winston Churchill quote and contrasting it with a statement from a secret government source, Olbermann goes on to insinuate Nazi appeasement:
The Churchill quotation — as opposed to the quotation from the very Senior member of your Administration, Mr. President — is from October 5th, 1938.
I don’t want to make any true comparison to the historical event to which it related; the viewer can go ahead and look it up if they wish; I will confess I won’t fight if anybody wants to draw a comparison between what you’ve done with our domestic politics of our day, to what Neville Chamberlain did with the international politics of his.
As Christopher puts it: “Translation: ‘I’m not sayin, I’m just sayin.’”
One final point before the video. You’ll hear Olbermann get angry with his government source for making some belittling comment that since Olbermann disagreed with the deal, he must just not have understood it. Here‘s Olbermann’s reaction:
Yesterday I had an exchange with a very Senior member of this Administration who wanted to sell me on this deal. I pointed out that that was fine, except that — as I phrased it to him — “frankly the base has just vanished.” “Well,” he replied, “then they must not have read the details.” There, in a nutshell, is this Administration. They didn’t make a bad deal — we just don’t understand it.
Maybe I’m reading into things, but Olbermann’s complaint there sounds a lot like what conservatives have been noticing with the administration for the last two years — mainly, every time Obama and the democrats fail, it’s only a communication problem, or the voters just aren‘t smart enough to understand what’s going on. Say it ain’t so, Keith!
Now, the video:
Popular Stories
Paper Details Obama Admin’s Alleged Secret Note Sent to Iran: If Israel Attacks, We Won’t Get Involved 569 Comments
‘Made Up Religion’: TV Historian Enrages Muslims, Receives Threats After Producing UK Documentary Questioning Islam’s Beginnings 394 Comments
This Is the Creationists‘ Response to Scientist Bill Nye’s Viral Pro-Evolution Video Claiming They Harm Children 385 Comments
Roseanne Barr: Most Billionaires ‘Violent Pedophiles’ & ‘Heartless’ Cocaine Addicts 368 Comments
President Obama Issues Major ‘Green Energy’ Executive Order 324 Comments
Faith
- This Is the Creationists‘ Response to Scientist Bill Nye’s Viral Pro-Evolution Video Claiming They Harm Children 385 Comments
Pakistani Muslim Cleric Accused of Framing Disabled Christian Girl in Koran-Burning Case Read More- ‘Made Up Religion’: TV Historian Enrages Muslims, Receives Threats After Producing UK Documentary Questioning Islam’s Beginnings 394 Comments
Meet the Controversial German Imam Accused of Brutally Beating His Wife & Pushing Sharia Law Read More
‘Self-Proclaimed Messiah’ & Unification Church Leader the Rev. Sun Myung Moon Has Died — Here’s His Life Story Read More
Business
- President Obama Issues Major ‘Green Energy’ Executive Order 324 Comments
- Germany’s Upcoming Court Ruling Will be Huge for the EU Read More
Ford Looks to Beat Toyota for Best-Selling Car in 2012 With This Model 150 Comments
Bernanke & QE3: Here’s What You Need to Know Read More- ‘Extortion’: Why Did the Labor Department ‘Drop the Hammer’ on Oregon Farmers? 302 Comments
Technology
- This Is the Creationists‘ Response to Scientist Bill Nye’s Viral Pro-Evolution Video Claiming They Harm Children 385 Comments
‘TaserDrone’: Hackers Weaponize Quadcopter With Actual ‘Shocking’ Technology Read More
Ever Heard of the Wild ‘Burning Man’ Festival in the Middle of the Nev. Desert? Here’s Your Primer Read More
Stanford Develops Technology ‘Better Than Steroids’ for Athlete Recovery Read More
Have You Pretended to Know What ‘the Cloud’ Is? You’re Not Alone Read More
Submitting your tip... please wait!
Comments (209)
Warphead
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:36pmPoor old Obama. All of his friends are leaving him, as if he really ever had any. Snakes in the grass. Every last one of them.
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:34pmQuite amusing watching the Democrat herd of Jackasses kick and honk at each other.
Report Post »Bigmouth-strikes-again
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 6:51pmhahahaha
Report Post »Docrow
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:34pmIt’s a donkey eat donkey world in namby pamby land.
Report Post »parmajohn
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:33pmHey Sharpton You better get him off the air too…… But wait maybe you agree with him or are you On P-BO’s side I need a score card to keep track of these Guys They flip-flop like a dieing alligagator
Report Post »LadyLiberty
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:33pmI can’t stop laughing.
Report Post »OmegaMan
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:32pmThat‘s what they’ve been telling the country all along – “we‘re smarter than you and we’re doing this for your own good and you’re too dumb to understand it.” Welcome to our world, Keefy. I wonder how he feels getting bent over and screwed like we did on Obamacare?
Report Post »REVENANT
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:32pmThe thrill up Matthews’ leg, is now the pounding in Olbermann’s skull.
Report Post »wbalzley
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:54pmThe “thrill” up his leg should become a “chill” down his spine once he realizes that Obama may attempt to become the first dictator of the United Socialist States of America…
Report Post »PaxFelix
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 12:50pmClose, Balzley. That’s United _Soviet_ States of Amerika.
Report Post »DagneyT
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:31pmYou have to love that so many lefties are PO’d at “The One”. I have to admit it makes my day!
Report Post »neverending
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:43pmI can’t stop laughing.
Report Post »Psychosis
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:28pmsorry could not finish watching video……….on my way to emergency room to have my pencils surgically removed from my ears
its fun watching the left eat their own though
Report Post »rbagala
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:27pmThese Democrats who are fleeing from the sinking ship of the Obama agenda should be judged by what they first stood for in when the tide was in favor for them and the Obama juggernaut.
Now that the “unwashed masses” have spoken through the mid term election these same Obama sycophants have turned color and are “suddenly” on the side of the voter and against their own “golden boy”.
This only spells their duplicity and that they amount to nothing more than “fair weather friends” whose word cannot be taken seriously. The very fact that they have dumped Obama at this critical point only cements that their interests are to preserve their jobs over the concerns of the voter.
Report Post »Answer: Do not take them seriously and dump them the moment we have an opportunity.
republitarian
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:25pmCouldn’t take more than two minutes. He’s really not very good at his job. I don’t buy any of this though. They’ll be mad at Obama for about as long as they were mad after 9-11 when real terrorists did real damage to this country..
Report Post »Highland
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 5:27pmIt’s easy to make fun of Keith, but aren’t we supposed to be more compassionate toward the mentally ill? Naah, whatever. Let’s make fun of him. No one deserves it more.
Report Post »ComeOnToolsOnTheLeft
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 8:33pmLMAO! Oh my, you guys are killing me!
Report Post »wbalzley
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:24pmI think that the media on the left may be waking up to the fact that Obama does not have their best interest at heart. He is not interested in “sharing” (redistributing) the wealth within the country–taking from the rich and giving to the poor. He wants to bring the whole thing crashing down in flames, and them with it…
Report Post »neverending
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:22pmWhat a blabbering maniac – pretty funny – hey keefie – you’re picking on the first black president.
Report Post »Ghandi was a Republican
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:21pmLet the frenzy begin.. I do not think these progressives will be able to work it out. They are in the business of divisiveness and derision. It is all they know. Belittling and demonizing as an organizing tactic to create temporary bonds through common hatred, and then exploit them.
Progressives do not have the skills nor the integrity/credibility (lie- by any means – etc) to mend fences. Their distrust of one another is only matched by their mistrust of the informed voter!
Report Post »oldfart
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:19pmNAZI??? DID I HEAR HIM RIGHT?? Congratulations OverBITE!! You finally said something I can agree with (albeit for all the wrong reasons!)
Report Post »untameable-kate
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:18pmI really liked the part about the unemployed being the real job creators and how the evil rich people will buy and sell people with thier ill gotten gains. Crybaby.
Report Post »Max jones
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:18pmThere is something fishy about all this. There is a new strategy at work here. If all the progs jump ship who will the dems run 2012? After the bliss of 2008 there is not one that can carry the primaries with a consensus, is there? We witnessed G. Soros throw Obama under the bus. Now even the bootlicks are getting their share of flesh in this scenario. Makes me wary, knowing that prog tactics are nothing short of evil.
Report Post »UnreconstructedLibertarian
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 10:08pmThe Dems will run Mitt Romney, betcha!
Report Post »Derfel Cadarn
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:18pmThe feeding frenzy has begun on the left there is blood in the water and it will only escalate from here.The “friends” obama has cultivated are very dangerous and will not take no for an answer. Watch now how the radical left pulls him apart and discards him. The siege is coming We The People had best be prepared,the roaches are coming into the light. The time has come for Leviathan to be thrown down and overwhelmed. Having said that I can not believe how having Olberman jump ship on you is not a GOOD thing.
Report Post »ConservativeBeauty
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:16pmKethie Weefie reminds me of the guy that “someone” invites to your party who you don’t know. He acts like a big jackass and then you offer him brownies with Ex-lax and he says ” yum, yum, these are fantastic!” While you’re laughing your azz off inside…ha! gurgle , gurgle…..
Report Post »mzmaj7
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:14pmOlbermann obviously hates the President because of the color of his skin.
Report Post »REVENANT
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:35pmYes, Olbermann is most definitely a racist. I mean, just listen to how he’s mad at his policy. he must be just another “tea ******” that just isn’t smart enough to understand. Maybe he‘s one of Bill Maher’s “dogs?”
It’s just too easy to hoist these morons on their own petard.
Report Post »Dale
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:14pmCan’t watch ko, especially for 11 minutes, but it is striking that he said:
“…with our domestic politics of our day, to what Neville Chamberlain did with the international politics of his.”
It is clear who his enemies are. Obomba capitulated to republicans, and his comparison is Chamberlain capitulating to Hitler. Get a life ko.
Report Post »parmajohn
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:11pmHows it Feel To be Lied To??
Report Post »randy
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:09pmHey Olberman! Not agreeing with Obama? Are you a racist?
Report Post »Dale
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:15pmOh, RANDY, how right you are.
Report Post »cessna152
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:16pmNo Randy,
Report Post »Only people that peacefully stand for freedom, lower taxes and smaller government are racists.(sarc)
Max jones
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:20pmolbrmans a racist, olbermans a racist na na na nana na….olbermans a racist….
Report Post »HKS
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:32pmWhat, Olbermann is now a racist? Is that in addition to all of his other shortcomings. I wonder if he has any reason to live as his world has crushed him.
Report Post »VTSickFreak
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:36pmAbsolutely, he’s a racist! He’s a liberal Democrat.
Report Post »LadyLiberty
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:37pmWhat we got from this clip:
Report Post »I hate rich people
I hate republicans
I used nazi analogies every show I do
I am a failed sportscaster fired by ESPN
J.C. McGlynn
Posted on December 10, 2010 at 1:28pmTo all listed on RANDY’s post: You got it wrong. Doesn’t this rant makes him a “Tea Partier???”
Report Post »Azmodious
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:08pmScrew you Oberheim! Your an Obama stool groomer…don’t forget!
Report Post »CONAN THE CONSERVATIVE
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:27pmWow, stool groomer.
Report Post »I love it, but isn’t that inherently a racist comment?
Puddle Duck
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:37pmLOL…yep Olberman is Obama’s groom of the stool alright, what an utter tool.
Report Post »Oil_Robb
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:45pmObermann is a Muslim hating racist………and I love it
Report Post »Bluebonnet
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 5:04pmI just figured oberman is such a weenie, he sits down to we-wee.
Report Post »GeauxAlready
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:07pmI can’t believe their so upset. They elected this Fool to be their Fool. And now that they figured out his a Fool their pissed. They are running around like a blind monkey humping a football…………….
Report Post »VTSickFreak
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:35pmA blind monkey humping a football…. I LOVE THAT!
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:41pmAnyone except Obama Democrat Primary 2012
Report Post »HillBillySam1
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:42pmGreat analogy since Obama apparently did “punt on third down”, according to some members of Congress…..I tell you what, that is DEFINITELY one game-ball that I would not like to have after the game….yuck!!
Report Post »SlimnRanger
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:54pmblind monkey humping a football?,lol,lol now thats funny,thank you
Report Post »LibertarianLady
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 5:53pmI love the metaphor!!!
Report Post »Konservative PUNK
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:05pmOlbermann you jackass! The fall of American Supremacy cannot come fast enough for you!
Report Post »Konservative PUNK
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:13pmI wonder how that thrill up Chris Matthews’ leg feels now?
Report Post »BMartin1776
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:18pmThis guy is back on the air? MSNBC still on the air?! Funny the radical “left” is always citing the “right” as the ones calling politicians out as Nazi’s etc. Yet I have yet to see anyone from the “right” using those ref’s. You hear about it but never see it!! Hmmmmm interesting failed narrative of the “left”.
We are all stupid huh? Yeah we showed how stupid we are this past Nov wait and see what happens on the next election!
56 men, our Founding Fathers, knew what had to be done and do what’s right, what about you? http://www.savingtherepublic.com
Now for those of you that are still watching Keithy Id like the 5 of you to get off the Huffington Post website and go upstairs from your moms basement to see the real world.
Report Post »Marcobob69
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:29pmI wonder if he is talking about George “spooky dood” Soros when he rants about billionaires getting tax breaks for infinity or whatever the hell is coming out of his pie hole. I swear this jackass talks because he likes to watch his nostrils flare “at just the right time”! Signed, Just Another Stupid Citizen!!! P.S., WHAT A MORON!
Report Post »VTSickFreak
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:34pmWith this kind of defection from the Left, the FCC is not going to know how to impose Net Neutrality. They must be scrambling right now to figure out who the bad guys are. Obama has blurred the lines. What a putz! This guy can screw up a wet dream… and did, for his side. HA-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!
Report Post »wbalzley
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:34pmWow, keep it up Olbermann, and you may find yourself banned by the newly empowered FCC…
Report Post »poverty.sucks
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:35pmAnyone except Obama 2012
Report Post »101
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:41pmCorrection: it‘s not a tax cut it’s a tax increase!
Olberlib you’re a failure at what you do, find another career!
Report Post »RobertCA
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:41pmHey Keith are you lashing out cause the President is black ??????????????? do you see what I’m getting @ Keith ?
Report Post »Konservative PUNK
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:42pmOlbermann’s rant sounds very familiar…seems very similar to his rabid demeanor when discussing policies of….George W. Bush! Wow Keith, ever consider that you might just be foaming at the mouth for the sake of foaming at the mouth??? These are all symptoms of Hydrophobia, aka: Rabies!!!
Report Post »BetterDays
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:43pmWell at least we know what he and the rest of the socialist’s want for lucifermass ( they don’t believe in GOD remember?) America’s downfall, too bad we aren’t giving it to them………..ever!
Report Post »How sweet the senior administration official to tell “Oberwaiste-of-a-man” that the liberal socialist‘s don’t know how to read either.
This administration is in need of an enema, it has made enemies of everyone in America now. I suppose the farce left will now march in their millions of socialist splinter cells demanding handouts of pepper spray and baton bludgeoning. Gee I hope and pray our brave law enforcement personal give it to them in in great measure.
HillBillySam1
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:45pmIt’s ok for Olbermann to use stealth “nazi” references….I think that “Olbermann” is German for “Look, Ma!!! No pants!!!”…..but my German is a little rusty…..
Report Post »bry
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:50pm@Hillbillysam….LOL!!! That was good!
Report Post »Major Infidel
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 3:59pmKieth will catch some heat for that one.
He just needs to give it up and jump the fence already.
Report Post »paperpushermj
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:01pmWhat is it with these people. If you are not to their left …you are a Nazi
Report Post »Reagan/Demint.deciple
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:11pmBBWWHAAAA HAHAA HEEEE !!!!! How does it feel olberbite, when your messiah doesn’t listen to you ? Kinda like we did when, he went ahead and passed healthcare ??? heheheheheehe.. Now you know how it feels to be ignored…
Report Post »Konservative PUNK
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:16pm@Major
Report Post »He might as well, he just jumped the shark!
untameable-kate
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:19pmHe used alot of big words though, gosh he must be smart. Waaahh
Report Post »pajamash
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:20pmFunny how Keith is quoting a man that Obama can’t stand. Remember how Obama gave the Churchill bust unceremoniously back to England?
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS PERMANENT TAX CUTS OR INCREASES!!!!!!
Just shy of 12 minutes to say the same thing over, and over, and over. This guy REALLY likes to listen to himself talk.!!!!
Who has blind rage Keith?!
Apparently Keith did not hear the self martyrdom Mr. Obama espoused leading up to the midterm election. If he had heard it he might be viewing Mr. Obama as the second coming of Christ.
Report Post »AlaskaRick
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:45pmNAZI’s were on the Left, National Socialist Party? Isn‘t that Olbermanns’ party?
Report Post »KaptainKody
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 4:51pmOlbermann is the poster boy for failed liberal policy and liberal “intellect”. He has somehow in his twisted moronic minded twisted life ie reality into thinking that our current poor economic situation is a direct result of Republican policy and greed????????? Obama and the Dems have had a super majority for two years now and they continue to blame our economic sewage on the “right” even going so low as to say the Repubs have held the middle class tax cuts and economic growth “hostage”?????? Mind boggling idiocy
Report Post »BoiseBaked
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 5:28pmThe great socialist, red-faced, bloviator.
Report Post »NapoHill15
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 5:37pmDoes anyone ever wonder what kind of general Mr. Olbermann will make for his liberal’s revolutionary army, the one they keep eluding to subliminally in the back of their collective minds? Certainly a man of Olbermann’s liberalism, of his character, entitles him to the position; does it not?
He is a madman . . . some of the greatest military leaders in the history of world have been madmen . . . but this one, he has some very unique qualities; the kind that allows a general to march his army off a cliff.
Report Post »BoiseBaked
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 5:40pmOlbermann keeps forgetting who’s stealing what. Tax revenues? You mean tax collections for an extremely inefficient redistributed welfare program. Now that’s stealing! Hey, Olbermann, I‘m not rich but I don’t want to steal my way to becoming rich. And, I’m sure not going hope on the Government to make me rich. If you want to jettison your wealth into the great abyss, go right ahead and put your money where your big mouth is.
Report Post »RepubliCorp
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 6:11pmKONSERVATIVE PUNK like a wet dream……….
Report Post »PeterThePainter
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 7:17pmWhat a scripted pile of C*ap. I guess now Obama is the underdog…that we should all feel sorry for. I don’t believe a word Keith says on any giving issue, but I’m sure within weeks Obama will call in his supposed card for this supposed comprimise and Keith will have tingles going up his leg again…
Report Post »Roger c Downs
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 7:24pmThey say that by using repetition, one will eventually convince people of your good intent and ideas and get your point across most simply.. Problem is that not only can it convince those open to manipulation by receiving something for nothing, but it can even more effectively strengthen opposition that is just becoming more and more justified to these very same previously attractive points of view.Point of proof was the more Obama tried to convince Americans of the benefits and net improvement of his health care overhaul, the more he made them wonder why he was repeating himself so often if it was so obviously a benefit.
Report Post »drakk2010
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 8:22pmDon’t call this *blank* a jackass! Your giving all jackass’s a bad rep!!
Report Post »Plankchapel
Posted on December 8, 2010 at 8:29pmWith reference to the thrill up Chris Matthews’s leg–
Guess we’ll find out when Chris goes to the airport!
Report Post »Maverick_166
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 12:54amAmen to the Jackass reference. I usually think that name calling is an improper way to diss someone… it is just too easy and not very imaginative. This case is different. This pompus Shakesperian wannabe pontificator is indeed……… a Jackass.
Report Post »emanz1969
Posted on December 9, 2010 at 11:04amI would love, just once, to be in a room alone with this commie pinko.
Report Post »*************************
Posted on December 10, 2010 at 3:01amKeith Olber-who? And what’s with the clown-glasses?
HEDLEY LAMARR [to movie cashier]: “One please.” [holds up ID for discount] “Uhh … student?”
Report Post »CASHIER: “Are you kidding?”
-Blazing Saddles
WVdad
Posted on December 11, 2010 at 12:19amthis guy, him and that chick, why I quickly stopped watching that channel a long time ago
Report Post »A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
Posted on December 11, 2010 at 12:59amI do believe that Keith Olbermann just revealed the cornerstone reason why he’s a Progressive, and the great news is that his reasoning is demonstrably flawed. Here’s what he said:
“The economy is surprisingly simple: if business and the rich won’t spend, and the middle class can’t spend, the only factor left to keep pushing money into the insatiable maw of Capitalism is the government.”
He clearly does not understand how the economy works.
The fundamental truth he fails to understand, which seems to be the basis for all his Leftist views, is this:
In that the individual has used his own body to produce or earn something (labor), that which is produced or earned belongs to him, and to him alone.
The second thing Olbermann fails to understand is that the government does not exist unless there’s a private sector to fund it
From these two principles comes the Founders’ belief that governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed. All governments are beholden to their respective private sectors, because all wealth comes from the private sector; and government is beholden to each individual citizen in the same way, and as individuals, because all men are created equal.
So, because of these truths, all redistributive policies are theft, because the wealth that we create belongs to us and not to anyone else; and the Progressive Tax violates our equality, because it treats one set of people different than another based on a non-existent class distinction – wealth is created by labor, and each person labors in differing capacities and/or efficiencies, which is why the amount of wealth someone has cannot soley be used as a class distinction.
If Olbermann honestly believes what he says about the economy, then my arguments should suffice to alter his belief. Otherwise, reason doesn’t matter to him.
Report Post »fatpatriot
Posted on December 11, 2010 at 7:43am@ a doctors labor
Report Post »Well said Doc. Even Keiffy should be able to understand your explanation.