Old Times Not Forgotten: Civil War at 150
- Posted on April 2, 2011 at 6:25pm by
Scott Baker
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A hush fell over the crowd filling the elegant hall in downtown Richmond, Va. The vote was about to be announced, and a young staffer of the Museum of the Confederacy balanced his laptop across his knees, poised to get out the news as soon as it was official.
Who would be chosen “Person of the Year, 1861″?
Five historians had made impassioned nominations, and the audience would now decide.
Most anywhere else, the choice would be obvious. Who but Abraham Lincoln? But this was a vote in the capital of the rebellion that Lincoln put down, sponsored by a museum dedicated to his adversary. How would Lincoln and his war be remembered in this place, in our time?
A century and a half have passed since Lincoln’s crusade to reunify the United States. The North and the South still split deeply on many issues, not least the conflict they still call by different names. All across the bloodstained arc where the Civil War raged, and beyond, Americans are deciding how to remember.
For the next four years, we will mark the sesquicentennial at scores of crossroads whose names have become a bitter historical shorthand: Fort Sumter, which launched the war on April 12, 1861, and later Antietam, Shiloh, Vicksburg, Gettysburg, and so many others, all the way to Appomattox.
There will be many commemorative events, some light (like the recent vote at the Museum of the Confederacy) and some somber.
We’ll reflect on more than 600,000 soldiers and sailors who died, leaving mourners from Maine to Texas, Michigan to Florida — and on what inspired their self-sacrifice. We’ll judge again the leaders good and bad who played their parts. We’ll argue over the causes. We’ll talk about slavery and emancipation, what change the war brought and what it didn’t.
Through the years, each Civil War anniversary has mirrored our nation at that point in time. At first, remembering was forgetting, an occasion to bring former foes together to shake hands, to show we’d moved on. Nostalgia for the so-called Lost Cause of the antebellum South defined many observances — even at the Civil War centennial in the early 1960s, ironically coinciding with the civil rights movement.
And what does today’s anniversary tell us?
In search of answers, an Associated Press reporter embarked on a 600-mile tour through one scarred swath of the fighting grounds — from Manassas, Va., where the war’s harsh terms first became clear, to ruins still standing along Union Gen. William T. Sherman’s fiery march through Georgia, which put the outcome beyond doubt.
Conversations along the way about the conflict and its legacy — with scholars, regular folks, Southerners, Northerners, blacks, whites — left several impressions.
There‘s a sense that we’ve matured. In our own time of two wars, military valor resonates deeply as we look back. Even amid the country’s cultural divisions, one finds attempts to see through others’ eyes.
It’s a commemoration, not a celebration, this time: What we’re recollecting now is the Civil War AND emancipation, many people say. Yes, there have been secession balls right out of “Gone with the Wind,” but the viewpoint of the 4 million enslaved Americans is part of every serious observance.
And one more conclusion: This fight, uniquely destructive and constructive, isn’t really past. Even after 150 years, it holds us still.
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Clotted interstates carry you to Manassas, but it’s a surprisingly quick run from the heart of Washington, D.C.
In July 1861 — just weeks after the Confederates took Fort Sumter in South Carolina, and Lincoln, the new president, responded with a call for 75,000 volunteers — Manassas, near a stream called Bull Run, would be the first real test of the opposing armies.
Some spectators ventured out from the capital for a look and a picnic on what began as a fine day, expecting the rebels to be quickly dispatched. Instead, after fighting that littered fields with more than 4,500 casualties, terrified civilians found themselves scrambling away from a Confederate rout. “Turn back!” cried Union soldiers in full flight. “We are whipped!”
This war, it suddenly became clear, would be deadly earnest.
And at Manassas today, it becomes clear that people still care. Tens of thousands are expected in July for commemorative events, including a battle re-enactment with 15,000 participants on adjacent property. The battlefield park is already seeing a 10 to 15 percent uptick in visitors this year, the superintendent said.
On a chilly day, a family pulled jackets tighter as they crossed the field where Confederate Gen. Thomas Jackson got his nickname in the midst of the furious fighting, when someone said, “There is Jackson, standing like a stone wall.”
All the way from Denmark, Per Moller came with his wife and young son for a vacation touring America’s Civil War. They’d stopped in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and now here, to see where Americans from North and South struggled.
Sheltering from the wind in the lee of a frame house that was struck by cannon fire back then, Moller shook his head, conjuring the fratricide.
“They spoke the same language, maybe went to the same schools,” he said, quietly.
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From Lincoln’s White House to the official residence of Confederate President Jefferson Davis is only about 110 miles.
The dove-gray mansion in downtown Richmond was one stop for Adam Ardire and Holly Coacsolonia on a trip “just to get a Southern perspective on the Civil War” and the country it left behind.
She’s from Indiana, he from Pennsylvania. Now living in Norfolk, Va., they‘ve concluded we’re still two nations in many ways: culture, attitudes, even style.
“I like the laid-backness” of the South, he allowed, and both acknowledged Southern hospitality. At the same time, there are things about the region they don’t get. Some Southerners flying the Confederate battle flag on their homes, for example, he said. What’s that about?
Around the corner from where they stood, a few hundred people filled an auditorium at the Library of Virginia. This was the place where the Museum of the Confederacy brought together five noted Civil War historians to make their nominations for 1861′s “Person of the Year.”
One author proposed P.G.T. Beauregard, the egotistical Louisiana-born general who was in charge at both Fort Sumter and Manassas, giving the South two early victories. Another scholar named the largely unknown governor of Kentucky, saying his decision to keep that vital border state out of the Confederacy may have tipped the historical scales.
Of course, Lincoln was nominated.
And there were two other eloquent pleas for support.
Dr. Lauranett Lee, curator of African-American history at the Virginia Historical Society, nominated the enslaved blacks who made their way to Union lines to seek protection and a chance to help the Northern cause. Union officers reasoned that, since they were considered property, they could be taken like anything else being used to support the enemy. They became seized “contraband,” and when word traveled back home by the grapevine, a trickle of men became a flood of families; many would eventually serve in military ranks, otherwise aid the Union’s ultimate victory, and reshape the future for black Americans.
Glancing at the other panelists, Lee noted, “Had it not been for the actions of the ‘contraband,’ I would not be where I am today.”
The last nomination came from James I. Robertson Jr., the eminent Virginia Tech historian and author, who said the person of that pivotal year was the Virginia volunteer.
This rank-and-file soldier was typically not a “fire-eating” secessionist in the mold of the South Carolinians who started the war, but a small farmer grimly determined to resist what he considered invaders. Robertson told the story of one such, and quoted his tender letters home before he succumbed to wounds suffered at Manassas.
“He died to protect that little parcel of farmland in the mountains,” said Robertson, his mellifluous Old Dominion accent bringing nods in the crowd.
And now the vote: Audience ballots were marked and carefully tallied. And S. Waite Rawls III, president of the Museum of the Confederacy, rose to announce the results.
The vote was close and there were, he noted, a few write-ins: Jefferson Davis and, on the other side, abolitionist firebrand John Brown (with a note acknowledging that he’d been hanged by then).
But the winner in the rebellion’s capital, 150 years later?
“The audience has chosen Abraham Lincoln …”
This was news. Leo Rohr of the museum marketing staff instantly announced it in a tweet.
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Not everyone feels caught up in the war, even where it was fought. Life goes on, after all.
On the haunting battlefield at Cold Harbor, just outside Richmond, Wayne Herring was completing his usual three-mile jog at a recent twilight. Trails he circled were the scene of brutal trench fighting and sniper exchanges in 1864 that left as many as 18,000 casualties. The gunfire was so unforgiving, that one Virginian recalled, “A man’s life is often exacted as the price of a cup of water from the spring.”
Herring’s son attends a school named for Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson, where the teams are the Confederates; his boss at work is a Civil War buff, but that’s not what has drawn Herring here for years.
“It’s just peace and quiet,” he said, “and a lot of nature.” And it’s true. As he spoke, the loudest sound on the battlefield that once ached with moaning wounded was the chattering of a squirrel.
Nor does Shirley Ragland spend much time thinking about the war. She lives about an hour’s drive from Cold Harbor in the town of Farmville. It had its war history, memorialized by one of the Confederate soldier statues that you see across the South, this one with an inscription never to let the battle flag falter, even in defeat.
But Ragland’s story picks up a century later.
“I was in the eighth grade,” she explained, “and the schools closed.”
After public schools were ordered desegregated in the Supreme Court’s Brown vs. Board of Education decision, localities across the South tried many ways to delay or prevent implementation. But only one county, Prince Edward, where Farmville is the seat, closed all of its public schools rather than integrate. Starting in 1959, they were shut for five years, even as the centennial of emancipation was celebrated. (White students attended new, racially exclusive private academies.)
Hundreds of black children, including Ragland, left their homes and boarded buses to distant cities where placement programs run by Quakers and others set them up with families and schools. First, Ragland went to Washington, D.C., for schooling, then in the second year to Philadelphia, later to New York, but the separations were too hard for some students she knew. “Like so many here, they just stopped,” she said.
Today, at 64, she remains alert for lingering prejudice, but also hopeful. The county board, she noted, passed a resolution of reconciliation a few years ago — looking back with admiration for the black students’ fortitude “and with sorrow for closing schools.”
Farmville is near Appomattox, and many tourists stop en route in search of history. With a half-smile, Ragland said, “And here I am standing right in front of them — living history.”
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We move southward into North Carolina, where many sea and land battle sites attest to the Civil War’s harsh legacy.
Another kind of memorial is found off Exit 177 from Interstate 85: Stagville, a restored plantation, where 900 slaves once worked on thousands of acres. Some of that land today holds corporate parks housing high-tech Research Triangle industries. Merck, the pharmaceutical company, has a state-of-the-art vaccine manufacturing plant whose entrance is visible from Stagville’s. The plantation of 150 years ago serves as a conference center today.
“When we met, our very first meeting, we met at Stagville,” said professor Freddie Parker, referring to the state’s Civil War sesquicentennial commission, of which he is a member. He was speaking in his office in the history department at North Carolina Central University, a historically black school in Durham, a few interstate exits from the plantation.
Besides his Ph.D., Parker brought to the commission his personal history. He spoke of a great-grandfather born into slavery in 1851. “So when the Civil War came to an end in 1865, he was 14 years of age. … I just wish I could have been around to hear some of the stories about how he survived.”
Parker told of how the sesquicentennial commission determined to offer “a balanced commemoration,” recognizing all viewpoints. When young staff members created a website, groups of Confederate descendants objected that their side was underrepresented, which led to more discussion, some of it heated, among commission members.
“I remember … an older individual, every time something came up about the South, the North, he put it out there: ‘The War of Aggression.’ And everybody knew his position.”
But as the meetings continued, and members listened to each other’s side of things, the man began to join with those pushing, for instance, for an official state memorial to black struggles, too. “He was one of the primary ones … And tears in his eyes. He made a complete flip.”
And how does Parker process this?
“That people are continuing to evolve. People are not static, stagnant beings,” he said, including blacks, whose view of Confederate fighters’ motives can sometimes be too narrow. “It’s a serious change; they’re not playing.”
Still, it will take the nation time, he said, “before we get to the point where we are less emotional, where we’re less polarized” about the war.
How much more time?
“A hundred and 50 years?” he ventured.
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Personal, human stories are never far from the sweeping historical narrative of the Civil War.
Individuals come into focus again and again: in an act of rash courage that helps turn a major battle, in wives’ journals detailing homefront hardships, in the explanations soldiers give loved ones for fighting.
“I am sick of war,” a Confederate wrote home, but he added he’d sign on again, thinking of his children and “our country’s independence.“ A Union soldier wrote that ”sick as I am of this war,” he’d fight on, unable to bear the notion of his children’s future “if we were to permit this hell-begotten conspiracy to destroy this country.”
East Tennessee saw individualism play out in deep divisions over the war. The region rejected secession when it came to a vote and raised Union units who fought Tennessee Confederates. Local guerrillas destroyed railroad bridges and were hanged.
The war’s untidy complexities delight Steve Gipson.
He’s a history buff, entertainer and dreamer, and awhile back he wrote a play to try to capture what happened in this corner of the Civil War. In it, a Union officer, camped not far from where he grew up, encounters his sister, who’s on a mission to deliver medicine — to rebel troops. Gipson and his wife Allison perform the two-actor play, “Granddaddy’s Watch,” at the dinner theater they’ve created in Whitwell, Tenn., near Chattanooga.
Their show — a cross between a he said/she said comedy routine in 19th-century costumes and a lecture with granular discussions of such issues as confusion over the many Confederate flags — somehow works as both entertainment and education, drawing busloads of spectators. Spirited discussions follow the shows: about divided family loyalties, about slavery, about the Constitution.
“People have been dumbed down on history,” said Gipson, who sees the war’s 150th anniversary as a teachable moment.
In the show, he said, “We’re not trying to restart the war or relive it. We’re trying to understand.”
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From near Chattanooga, the Union army took aim at the rail and commercial hub of Atlanta.
I-75 carries you south past bloody Chickamauga, where in 1863 a Confederate victory came with 34,000 total casualties, and then past the flashpoints of the 1864 Union offensive — Resaca, Peachtree Creek and others — before Sherman set Atlanta alight.
An enormous oil painting, 42 feet by 358 feet, depicting the battle of Atlanta and its resulting desolation covers the circular walls of the Cyclorama, a century-old exhibit drawing new throngs for the war’s anniversary. It’s just one of many ways Georgia is remembering.
Firsthand signs of actual destruction are rare now — but if you leave downtown, passing through western neighborhoods where streets are named for civil rights leaders, then past the looping roller coasters of Six Flags, you come to Sweetwater Creek and what remains of a five-story textile mill, which supplied cloth for Confederate forces. In July 1864, Sherman’s troops seized and burned the mill. Today, wind whispers through the forlorn brick ruins, ringed in chain-link fence, at the edge of wild rapids.
On a recent visit, a family rested at an overlook: Betty Fugate, a native Georgian, and her son, Clayton, and two grandsons, Caleb and Barrett Clark, ages 9 and 15, on spring break from New Hampshire.
In the hulking ruins, Caleb “saw a castle,” Barrett said. His younger brother likes to read about the Middle Ages.
Their grandmother said she’d brought them out for the learning experience — “Why it was destroyed — that it produced things that helped the Southern soldiers” — but also for exercise on a pretty day with spring trees budding.
Ruin and renewal: If that’s a theme of any reflection on the Civil War, then Atlanta — whose postwar newspaper editor Henry Grady famously promised the nation a vibrant New South — manifests it as well as anywhere.
After Sherman’s “march to the sea” that would assure war’s end, after Reconstruction, after Jim Crow and the tragedies and triumphs of the civil rights movement, the burned city grew into an economic powerhouse and, among other things, a prime job destination nowadays for black college graduates.
When the Olympics came to the glass-and-steel towers of the rebuilt city in 1996, Atlantans could laugh at a popular T-shirt caricaturing Sherman with the caption “The original torchbearer.”
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Our trip through the war must end by looping back — to the rural settlement of Appomattox, Va., which we passed en route south and which was where, for practical purposes, the Civil War ended.
Early on an April morning in 1865, 6,000 Union soldiers lined the road respectfully as Lee’s surrendering Army of Northern Virginia trooped by. Then came the order to “stack arms,” recalled one Confederate.
“We obeyed the command, and that’s the last command we received.”
The surrender documents were signed in a handsome porticoed house, which was disassembled after the war. Rebuilding was delayed for years, and much of the original material rotted away. The foundation and some bricks were reused, but the painstakingly restored structure is something new, perhaps a bit like the nation that was restored here.
“Appomattox to me is not the end of something,” said historian James Robertson, who spoke at the “person of the year” conclave. “It’s the beginning of modern America.”
Now 80, Robertson was executive director of the national Civil War centennial commission 50 years ago and he‘s a member of Virginia’s state sesquicentennial commission now.
“We’re talking about two different ages,” he said. The centennial came at a time of peace and economic prosperity, unlike the “negative age we’re living in,” with its wars, economic crises and partisan bickering. “As a historian, I don’t think this nation has been as fractured since the 1850s.”
We ought to learn from the war born of that earlier fracture, he said.
“Almost three-quarters of a million men died to give us the nation we have today. The sesquicentennial offers us a moment to remember that American democracy rests on one thing and one thing only — a spirit of compromise.”
On the front steps of the rebuilt McLean House, visitors paused to reflect.
Megan Griffin, a history graduate student from North Carolina who will teach after graduation, wondered how the war’s survivors found “the strength to move forward after this day.” But she added: “It’s pretty cool standing here saying, this is where things changed.”
David Cummings stood with his friend and fellow Civil War buff, Michael Overcash, at the end of a trip following the stages of Lee’s last retreat, 26 stops in all. Both had ancestors in fierce battles a century and a half ago — Cummings’ forebear killed at Shiloh, Tenn., Overcash’s captured at Fredericksburg, Va.
“This is where the healing had to begin, right here,” Cummings said.
The Kentuckian mused about the outcome: “Homes destroyed, lives destroyed … I don‘t think you’re going to get rid of bigotry. I think we have a long way to go. And I think our country is still healing.
“But right here they said, ‘It’s over.’”
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Christopher Sullivan, a former AP Southern regional correspondent now based in New York, can be reached at features(at)ap.org.



















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Brasil2520
Posted on April 12, 2011 at 4:01pmTo UNRECONSTRUCTEDLIBERTARIAN
Welcome to the dance, much of what you wrote is left out of school history books, just like any country that wins the war we just get the, sounds good view. Here is a little example of this:
A new book by George Mason, University of Fairfax, VA., makes the case that Abraham Lincoln, was more committed to colonizing blacks then previously known. The book, Colonization After Emancipation, is based in part on newly uncovered documents that authors Philip Magness and Sebastian Page found at the British National Archives outside London and in the US National Archives.
Report Post »The documents make Lincoln’s “life more interesting, his racial legacy more controversial”, said Magness.
This remark Lincoln made in 1862 to a White House audience of free blacks, urging them to leave the US and settle in Central America, won’t make into school books.
” For the sake of your race, you should sacrifice something of your present comfort for the purpose of being as grand in that respect as the white people ”
Lincoln wanted to send blacks to Belize, on the belief that whites and blacks could not coexist in the same nation.
If we look at today’s black on white crime statistics, something that the FBI in the 1980“s ”chose” not to report on anymore, we can see that Lincoln was right, as a Brasilian I can tell you us few whites in my city of Recife, are always on the lookout for crime, a white woman by herself at night in Recife is like walking prey.
Let’s look at American cities with the highest numbers and blacks, those cities also have the highest numbers of homicides, New Orleans, Gary Indiana, Detroit, Flint, Birmingham . . .
So this is the “New Modern America” ?
If Lincoln could have seen today’s crime statistics, on black on white rapes, the old guy would have gotten nauseated.
As a foreigner to America to me this is sad, of what’s happening to this once beautiful country, when we first came to America in 1970 we went to upstate New York the white people wher so nice and polite, then a year later we moved to Jackson Heights, Queens WOW ! what a toilet of diversity and just like Recife, we once again became prey !
This is progress ? ? ?
UnreconstructedLibertarian
Posted on April 10, 2011 at 1:08pmI am late to this dance.
I do appreciate Scott’s article, but I want to point out some very important things that get overlooked. Overlooked purposely and shrouded by those who love big government – regardless of party affiliation. Does the emancipation of one race justify the abject slavery of the entire populace? It would appear in our day and time that it does.
Why would Southern small-farmers take up arms and defend a system of slavery that not 5 in 100 even employed? Perhaps its because they understood the bad direction Government was going and what that meant for them individually. Perhaps its because they understood the Constitution and its founding principles a bit better than those who had invented the notion of “implied” interpretations. Since we love the Constitution these days, I ask how many would positively respond to Constitutional changes like these?
1.) State legislatures having the authority to remove federal officers, appointees, and judges operating solely within their jurisdictions. Self-explanatory, activist federal judges would be on notice.
2.) Executive Cabinet members can be directly called by the House and/or Senate to answer questions directly, by consitutional right – not the selectively granted privelege we know today.
3.)Presidential “line item veto”
4.) Congress can not apply any subsidy or protection to any industry or enterprize. Economic activities must stand or fail based upon their own merit.
5.)Congress cannot appropriate money to “internal improvements” or what we know of as “pork” spending. The only exception being vital infrastructure, and those monies repayed to the Treasury by the direct users of the infrastructure funded.
6.) The Post Office must be self-supporting and not a burden to taxpayers. This change would extend to all departments of government that might possibly compete with a function that private industry could supply.
7.) Single Topic Bills Only, Constitutional language that would end “Christmas Tree” bills. Any bill that related to more than one specific topic would be unconstitutional. This would end the addition of “pork” to unpopular bills to buy votes in Congress.
8.) Presidential appointments during Congressional recess would be Constitutionally prohibited.
All of these 8 changes were in the CSA Constitution – and more. Ironicly, all the slave narrative in the CSA Constitution was also present in the US Constitution, including the impending Corwin Amendment that was passed by Lincoln’s regime. In all points regarding slavery. there was no difference between the Glorious Union and the Rebellious South. History likes to forget that 5 slave states remained in the Union and that slavery was constitutionally enforced in those states for nearly a year after the end of the war. Based on those well documented facts, explain to me again how slavery was the prime motive for the war?
I’m sure there is not a Conservative nor Libertarian on this website that does not agree with the 8 points mentioned. They were not the “invention” of modern Republicans, they are the enduring legacy of what the Confederacy had right about the view our Founders had for the Constitution – 150 years ago this year.
The Confederate Battle flag is more accurately the battle flag of the Conservative interpretation of the Constitution. The war itself was over this interpretational view. Given the text of both Constitutions in April of 1861, I would have supported the CSA view. I would have suported it after the Emancipation Proclamation because It should be apparent that the USA only attempted to destroy slavery where it was advantageous to do so, and protected the same institution where it was advantageous to do so.
Government behaves no differently today – do the waivers for Obamacare seem similiar? How about the Arizona Immigration situation? Selective enforcement of law is the trademark of a government out of control. It was out of control in 1861, it is out of control in 2011. The same issues bear the same relevence as if the war taught us nothing.
It is not coincidence that the push to demonize everything Confederate began to occur in 1989 (consquently the beginning of the NWO movement) , as you will find no court case attacking the Confederate flag or symbols before that time. Martin Luther King was even wise enough to warn Andrew Young NOT to attack southern symbols – as it would only lead to more division between the races and would forever prevent southern white conservatives from joining southern black conservatives. MLK was absolutely right, and alluded to this line of thought in his “I have a Dream” speech. “…a day when the sons of slaves, and the sons of slave holders, sit together at the table of brotherhood”. Well, you can’t keep attacking our soutthern Conservative sensibilities – and this ever happen – for either race or region.
It is no accident that these symbols excite fear in the heart of the Socialist/Communist/Totalitarian elements of government, because these principles limit the negative influence government has upon its people and the economy. They champion not only “limited government”, but also “self-responsibility”. It also represents that we can decide to “cast off” an oppressive government that destroys both principles, to the point of bloodshed, if the totalitarians decide that their arrangement of plunder must be preserved by force of violence. Any memory or symbol of such must be destroyed, otherwise the people may rediscover the real issues of “The People” vs. “The Government”.
It doesn’t take a genius to look around at the divisions going on currently and see the same tactics of race and misaaplication of law being employed against Conservatives and Libertarians of our age. Race and ethnicity have become the over-arching weapons used to silence any constructive discourse, particularly if the discussion includes a Conservative viewpoint. I find it ironic that this weapon has been highly refined by the left and right in thier quest to silence the Confederacy. Little did the modern northern Conservatives realize this weapon would be turned on them when the time was conveinient. It is now conveinient, and Conservatives are feeling the internal conflict of “Union Leaguers” inciting violence.
Should we lose the current struggle to reclaim the Constitution – you can look forward to having the Gasden flag become the new banner of racism in America – for all the same reasons the Confederate battle flag is harrassed. In this final struggle, should the socialists/Marxists ultimately succeed, you can also look forward to the end of your right to free speech, the right to bear arms, and the endless ability of the government to irrevocably empower any entity they choose over the people. Slavery will effectively be upon us all and we’ll have no means of emancipation or promise of freedom for anyone.
Report Post »Brasil2520
Posted on April 4, 2011 at 1:22amJames Robertson – ” It’s the beginning of modern America”
Modern America ? ? ?
Let’s take a look at this myth, Washington DC – after Abraham Lincoln was killed the blacks feared America could return to slavery, since the VP wasn’t as pro-black as Lincoln, so the blacks started to move North to DC, guess what the whites of DC did, yup they moved, and the “white flight” started. Now, each year DC comes in on the top 10 cities for murder.
In the 1830′s the last stop of the Underground Railroad in America, was Buffalo NY, the system for helping slaves escape to Canada. As soon as more blacks started to stay in Buffalo, guess what the ultra white liberals of that city did, yup the lilly white people that talked a great game about diversity, moved. Today you can see Buffalo on that show “COPS” This is progress ? ? ?
I just wrote about two cities, I could write a book about this “beauty of diversity” myth !
About the white people in that report like James Robertson, how much do you want to bet they live in a white area.
Report Post »Brasil2520
Posted on April 3, 2011 at 10:16pmA Union soldier wrote – “he’d fight on . . . his children’s future” . . .
Sounds great ! Now for that “future” results. – High black on white crime, so high, that back in the 1980′s the FBI “chose” to stop reporting crime based on race, WOW ! It‘s one of those to much truth things people don’t talk about, like 30,000 black on white rapes, compared to 10 white on black rapes, the numbers are per year, that Union soldier is rolling in is grave ! He died for this !
Report Post »If you Google the word riot, you have to enter the year that your looking for, thats how many riot’s America has had, yup you guessed it mosty black’s wanting more free stuff.
As for desegregated school’s, I went to a mosty black school in Jackson Heights, Queens in the 1970′s it was HORRIBLE !!!!!!!!! Us few white males would get chased and beat like prey, it was fun for the blacks, then the black males would act nice to the white girls, and you know what they wanted from the white girls.
Want to see the “future” of a black world, look at Brasil, us whites stay at home at night, and doing the day we don’t wear any gold or even a cheap watch out side, the animals will take it, it’s like Detroit 10X.
America is slowly looking more like a third world country, but that‘s what America get’s for losing the Civil War. :(