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One Year Later…10 Things You Didn’t Know About Obamacare

Remember a year ago when VP Joe Biden was caught telling his boss that the massive Healthcare Reform Bill the President had just signed was (using Biden’s words) a ‘big f**king deal?’

Well folks, I hate to say this, but Joe Biden was right.  This is a big deal.  A big and expensive deal that still has not earned the support of more than half of America.

The as the bill was passed a year ago, a Gallup poll said:

only 49% of us think that passing healthcare reform was a ‘good thing.’

40% believe it was a bad thing

11% have no opinion

The people at Gallup asked the same question last week and not a whole lot has changed, except that more people DON’T like the idea:

only 46% support the healthcare reform bill

44% think it’s a bad idea

10% have no opinion

Maybe people just don’t know enough about what is in the bill.  Remember then-speaker Nancy Pelosi telling us that we needed to pass the bill to find out what was in it?

As you know, they passed the bill, and now we know what is inside it. Bad stuff. Which might explain why even staunch Obamacare supporters like Congressman Anthony Weiner want a waiver for New York City.

But just how bad is it?

The folks at ‘Americans For Tax Reform’ have combed through the bill and found 10 Expensive Things You Did Not Know About Obamacare:

1. Did you know that . . . since Jan. 1 of this year (2011), you cannot use your flex-account at work (FSA) or health savings account (HSA) to purchase over-the-counter medicines?

2. Did you know that . . . since July 1 of last year (2010), Americans have been paying a 10 percent excise tax on all indoor tanning services?

3. Did you know that . . . starting in 2018, if your health insurance is “too good” or considered a “Cadillac” plan, then you will incur a new 40 percent tax on your health plan?

4. Did you know that . . . Obamacare has 21 new or higher taxes in it, totaling over $500 billion in increased taxes going to the government over 10 years?

5. Did you know that . . . beginning in 2014, individuals and families that do not purchase “qualifying”  – as defined by federal bureaucrats — health insurance will be forced to pay a yearly tax penalty?

6. Did you know that . . . 7 tax hikes in Obamacare directly break President Obama’s “firm pledge” not to raise any form of taxes on individuals making less than $200,000 per year and families making less than $250,000 per year?

7. Did you know that . . . the capital gains tax rate under Obamacare will rise to 23.8 percent starting in 2012? That is a 59 percent increase from its current rate.

8. Did you know that . . . in 2013, those Americans facing the highest medical bills and the least ability to pay for them will find their ability to deduct medical expenses is further limited (medical expenses must be reduced by 10 percent of income under Obamacare, rather than current law’s 7.5 percent)

9. Did you know that . . . beginning in 2014, businesses with over 50 employees will be forced to offer health coverage for everyone, or pay a hefty tax for each employee?

10. Did you know that . . . in 2013, Obamacare caps the amount individuals and families can put in their flexible savings accounts at $2500? Currently there is no cap and these accounts are used for a myriad of health expenses including paying upwards of $14,000 in tuition to special needs schools for some parents?

I don’t know about you, but I‘m kind of nervous about what we will discover when this bill hits the ’terrible twos.’

Comments (174)

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  • Dateech
    Posted on March 25, 2011 at 8:36am

    Let’s use their tactics against them – everyone apply for an individual waiver and overwhelm the system, peacefully

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  • jeff.cooper
    Posted on March 25, 2011 at 8:22am

    Where did RHINO’s who voted for this pile of doo doo (yeah, I just typed that) think the money was going to come from to pay for this? GOP must get on this issue and tear it apart before it is too late. Call, Fax, write, Email, your MOC everyday and demand they repeal this bill.

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  • db912
    Posted on March 25, 2011 at 8:12am

    The Tennessee Health Care Freedom Act took care of the problem (for Tennesseans) last month: http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2011/mar/07/state-house-joins-senate-passing-health-care-freed/

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  • BetterDays
    Posted on March 25, 2011 at 8:10am

    I keep saying that the Obamanations track record is abysmal, and he keeps making it worse. Soon I’ll run out of hyperbole by which to properly digress unto that interjects my utter disdain for this plaque which is upon our nation.
    He and his ilk, must go.
    But who shall accept the gift of traitors and socialist pond scum, when we have had enough and force them to the door? Exactly whom ( being in a right mind ) would want these warts to enter into their society, not even Chavatez me thinks. Perhaps when w finally enforce our immigration laws and bus the 30 million “ illegals ” back across the border, we can put the 20 million socialists mixed into the mass exodus, no one would be able to tell the difference, right?

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  • Snappingturtle
    Posted on March 25, 2011 at 8:08am

    As to #9, if I owned a company that employed 54 people and are going to be forced to provide health insurance for the employees. I think I would lay off at least 5 workers and if they were necessary contract the work out.This is a free country and the government should keep the nose out of everybody’s business.The free enterprise system works best when it is allowed to flourish on it’s own.

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  • raspberrytea
    Posted on March 25, 2011 at 8:02am

    @ A Widerview
    Not me!!

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  • TSMartin
    Posted on March 25, 2011 at 8:01am

    While I appreciate this kind of information I wish the exact wording from the bill was included to back this up. Or at least point us to the pages where we can find it. It’s like giving us the rifle to fight the battle but no ammo. That‘s probably a bad example but it’s the only one I can think of at the moment.

    I try to do my own research as Glenn says but the amount of info out there is overwhelming and false leads and dead ends are common. This makes it very frustrating for the average person like me and I give up.

    TS

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    • John
      Posted on March 26, 2011 at 11:19pm

      Give up is what the social activist wants so you just shut up and pay the bills for his/her socialism. They fail to see the examples surrounding the world where that kind of trype was fostered and withered on its vine. Socialism doesn’t raise everybody to some lofty hieght, it drags everybody down to a lower level of misery.

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  • sharker03
    Posted on March 25, 2011 at 7:59am

    I am embarrassed to call Obama my president and it angers me that he is destroying this country from the inside out.

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    • Scanner 3T
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 11:53am

      I am with you, except I don’t have a President. I have a dumbAs$ runny my country.

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  • WVBeagleMom
    Posted on March 25, 2011 at 7:58am

    “It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood.” James Madison

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  • libbsrnuts
    Posted on March 25, 2011 at 7:56am

    Problem is that this information was available the day horrible bill ended up on paper. Why are these negative being published one year after the bill is passed? Republicans Congressman should have been all over this day one and broadcasting the many problems in this bill when they could have garnered even more public opposition. We gotta go all in on repeal now!!!

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on March 25, 2011 at 7:54am

    9. Did you know that . . . beginning in 2014, businesses with over 50 employees will be forced to offer health coverage for everyone, or pay a hefty tax for each employee?
    Way to “focus on job creation” Obama. If your company is sitting at 45 employees and would like to expand, would you do it? Brilliant.

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  • rambosharley
    Posted on March 25, 2011 at 7:50am

    I’ve been sick to my stomach since Obama came to town with “hope & change“ ”fundamental transformation“ ”yes we can ” crap….He’s got to go in 2012….I don’t think this country can take another 4 yrs of this lunacy…the talking heads keep saying “who can beat obama” at this point Daffy Duck would be a better president!

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    • Uncle Crusty
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 10:35am

      the turd i just flushed could do a better job than the Obumbler!

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  • Nurseman
    Posted on March 25, 2011 at 7:50am

    If you want to see the best current example of fully government run health care look at the Indian Health Service. On many reservations the common motto is “Don’t get sick after June” because all the money alloted is gone and care is severely rationed or non-existent. You want to see massive tax increases? Wait for 2019 after this fiasco is in place 5 years and we see how incredibly expensive “free ” healthcare actually is. The pols will rape us continuously to cover the costs.

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  • awiderview
    Posted on March 25, 2011 at 7:46am

    How many on THEBLAZE will actually benefit from the bill…and will actually admit it?

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    • quarter horseman
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 7:51am

      Not me and will admit it

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    • Guerrino_P
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 7:52am

      More than you think.

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    • Chett
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 8:08am

      no one benefits from this bill, we all lose.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 8:28am

      Nobody benefits from this. Every government intrusion into the market has caused dire pain for those participating in the market.

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    • Sharkei
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 8:35am

      I really don’t think any American citizen will benefit from this. I tried to read it before its passage but it was not written with specific details. It was written with the intention of pass it now and write it later, just like Nancy said. Everything I have learned from this bill supports that it is job killing, overwhelm the system, destroy the American way of life and watch people riot in the streets like a third world country. If the American people would have listened they would have known the agenda of this president before the election. Instead they concentrated on their hatred for the former president. Just like little sheep they followed the progressive agenda and did as they were told. Well America it is time to Wake Up and learn for yourself what is really going on in our beloved America. Please don’t let it be “The End Of The World As We Know It.” Pray for our country and our leaders to follow the constitution and honor the ten commandments.

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    • LadyIzShy
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 8:50am

      not me and I admit it. I wont it repealed and I have NO insurance.. if i get sick I pay out of pocket

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    • nativeamericangirl
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 9:28am

      Yes, it is always beneficial to me to have to go to a doctor to get a prescription for over the counter medication, so that my FSA will reimburse me for it. Under these guidelines, if I do not obtain a prescription, there will be no reimbursement. While it is true that under the new health care law I will receive a “free” physical every year, my co-pays for all other doctor visits has doubled. I used to be able to visit a physical therapist 60 times a year, it is now down to 30 times a year, and my co-pays have doubled. Prescription and emergency room co-pays have also doubled for my family. We now also pay more in weekly premiums for these new “benefits.”
      I have been “entitled” to “free” health care my entire life because I am Native American, and I have never used it. In fact, my children are also eligible, and will never use it. If I wish to utilize this insurance, it is indeed very easy for me. All I need to do is travel 3 1/2 hours one way to see a doctor, after waiting months to finally receive an appointment, wait at least an hour to see the doctor, and then if there are more tests that need to run or follow-ups that need to be done, I just start all over again. I am sure that any boss I have is willing to let me lose whole days of time for appointments, instead of a few hours.
      With all due respect, I have seen first hand how government “benefits” have helped thousands of people, and I would like to say, “No thanks, I have had enough of your “help!”

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    • FTN
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 9:37am

      No one benefits in the long run, toolbag.

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    • VTDave
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 10:13am

      My wife will be out of a job May 13th because of this bill AWIDERVIEW. She works at a non-profit student loan provider that this bill’s non-health related student loan takeover is essentially putting out of business. Our family has excellent healthcare coverage through her job which will be lost as we will not be able to afford to keep it through COBRA. We will have to go on the plan offered by my employer which has high deductibles which wouldn’t be a big deal except that my daughter is on meds that will end up costing us over $600.00/mth. So, NO this bill will not benefit me and my family. Don’t be such a tool…………

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    • Stopit
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 10:57am

      @awiderview
      Typical Devilcrat, Unionized, Socialist. Hey, if it puts something in my pocket right now, who cares if eventually destroys everything those who died for our freedom fought for….or who cares if in the long run it bankrupts our _____(country, business, healthcare system, way of life, freedoms). You people make me want to puke!

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    • tierrah
      Posted on March 28, 2011 at 6:42am

      @awiderview: I will not benefit from the bill … in fact I will suffer as a senior citizen paying for Medicare. You see they are taking 1/2 trillion dollars out of our Medicare premiums to help finance this bill. They will be giving the money to the millions of illegal immigrants who will be covered under the Medicaid program. How’s that for admission?

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  • fatsomann
    Posted on March 25, 2011 at 7:41am

    MEMBERS OF CONGRESS – better get off your butts and get busy! REPEAL this monstrosity.

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  • orcainohio
    Posted on March 25, 2011 at 7:34am

    I read somewhere that the Obomacare has a hidden sales tax of 3% on any home sale after Jan. 1 ,2012. Reason number 11 to kill this bill.

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    • NOKOOLAIDDRINKER
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 9:55am

      I heard the tax was closer to 15%. Whatever the amount, if there is a tax it will further depress the housing market, and redistribute more wealth from those Americans who managed to hold onto their homes during the last crisis.

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  • parkerislegend
    Posted on March 25, 2011 at 7:30am

    you don’t see the news talking about this! 7 tax hikes that break his promise!?! are you kidding me? and he told us straight face in THIS years state of the union address that he has not raised taxes. thanks libs! thanks a lot!

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  • CatholiConservative
    Posted on March 25, 2011 at 7:30am

    In response to #9 also did you know, that there are several small businesses that are going to have to pay the tax/penalty because it will still be less than the cost to insure- still others are thinking ‘shrink or die’

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    • glashole
      Posted on March 26, 2011 at 12:22pm

      Just think, fine the business owner, and employees because they have no coerage and the insurance companies are out of business because of the they are not the government, and cannot run a business on deficit spending. The Czars and Obummer win. The best we can do is force these people ruining our country out of our neighborhoods. They will be welcome in Hell.

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  • kickagrandma
    Posted on March 25, 2011 at 7:29am

    AMERICANS, legal citizens of this great nation, are hereby given a permanent opt out of obamacare because obama doesn’t care! Also, it’s illegal as h***, just as he is. (Funny how that works, isn’t it?)

    Just copy and print this announcement. It is more real and has more value to it because it carries the truth.

    There you go, AMERICA! Copy it and carry it with you.

    Don‘t tell me we aren’t resourceful!

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  • phil1765
    Posted on March 25, 2011 at 7:28am

    I read as much of the bill as I could before they passed it, I am sure that what I read was more than 75% of congress. It was all legalese and very vague as to just what they were trying to accomplish in most parts. The overwhelming thing to me was the number of new agencies set up to accomplish implementing and running this overpriced and not well thought out monstrocity. This bill will be the final death nail in our country I am afraid, but at least Nancy will go down in history for something.

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    • drbage
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 9:49am

      Good points. I would not be surprised to learn that there are more “we, the people” who have read the bill than members of Congress. The language, I think, is purposely done to obfuscate so that the average person will give up trying to read the bill, leaving that to the experts (read lawyers).
      One part of the new law or “moral human right” as Pope Pelosi or Whiney Weiner would call it that gets little attention is the takeover of the student loan business. When I waded through all the language, put it into everyday English and did the math, I found a financial black hole that could potentially rival Medicaid as a boondoggle. Of course, my first question was what does financial aid have to do with healthcare unless the loan will be contingent on majoring in a subject which is deemed acceptable by the government. The rationale or justification for the takeover was the “fatcat bankers charging that evil interest.” Using the brilliant accounting of the Congress, let’s look at how this blackhole would develop. Say, your child goes to a public university and the 4 years will cost $100,000. We, the people lend the money with the reasonable expectation that it will be repaid; however, the caveat in the law is that if you go to work for the government for 5 years you only have to pay back 50%. So, we, the people are out $50,000, but if the student works for the government, the salary is paid by we, the people. If you take an average wage of $50,000/year, the student/worker will get $250,000 over those five years. To qualify for the govt pension plan, you must work for the government for at least five years. So, put it all together and we lend $100,000, but it will cost we the people about $350,000. That does not appear to be a sound business plan to me.

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    • Stopit
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 10:46am

      My thoughts also…and these are missing from the 10 items listed. These are much larger issues, as well as the missing issue of the actual costs. (not the Obamanomic double counting, paying for 7 while billing for 10 years, and the hidden actual costs in every piece as DRBAGE points out.) Where is the issue of the “nationalization” of loans for college…the federal take over of banking in this area? What about the open ended legislative powers in the executive branch now authorized for each new bureau to implement it? What about the destruction of free market medical care and insurance designed into the legislation? Surely someone has a well developed list of actual impacts from this garbage by now…That needs to be published if those polling numbers are accurate.

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  • Boojer56
    Posted on March 25, 2011 at 7:26am

    You will note my lack of surprise. This is just a vehicle to hide tax increases.

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  • spurjimmy
    Posted on March 25, 2011 at 7:26am

    Pertaining to #2 above, a 10% tax on indoor tanning services sounds like a “white person” tax. Who else uses these services? With Obama and his cabinet appointees’ track record, is this much of a stretch?

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  • emertz8413
    Posted on March 25, 2011 at 7:22am

    It stunk when it was passed, and it smells even worse now!

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 7:35am

      I understand, when this thing passed the javalinas in AZ showed up wearing bibs and carrying forks and spoons for the ‘feast’ they assumed was there in DC from the smell.

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    • Tnredneck
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 8:11am

      And all of that is on the first page of the bill. You should read the rest of the bill

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  • kentuckypatriot
    Posted on March 25, 2011 at 7:21am

    Should we expect anything less from this regime? I want an opt out, now!

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 7:25am

      I want the op out in the manner of the courts overturning it completely; the congress pulling the plug on the thing and Obama being impeached or resigning…the sooner all are done the better.

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    • Obamunism
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 11:54am

      Resigning: won’t happen.

      Impeached: won’t happen.

      Congress pulling the plug: Our best bet, but still, likely an uphill battle. Let‘s hope the Tea Partiers in Congress don’t lie down with the rest of the RINO’s and Dems, and forget why they were sent there in the first place. Let’s pray they have a backbone, not on fancy campaign speeches, but on the floor, where real courage, tenacity, and strength is needed.

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    • CatB
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 1:02pm

      @KENTUCKY

      Me too! I buy my own insurance … WHERE’S MY WAIVER????

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    • tierrah
      Posted on March 28, 2011 at 6:36am

      Are you all aware that the Muslims and Amish are excluded from this bill because of their religion?

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on March 25, 2011 at 7:17am

    What else is new?

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    • Thatsitivehadenough
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 7:28am

      I hate Obama and everything he stands for, says, does, or still has planned.

      Thatsitivehadenough  
    • exdem
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 7:39am

      Wait until progressive minded bureaucrats are finished writting the regs on how to put this in practice. The language will be twisted and more control over patients care and privacy will morph into more bizarre hoops for us to jump through. With this legislation being passed, remember there is nothing that they can’t make us do.

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    • grandmaof5
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 7:41am

      I wonder how many of the sheeple are still happy with this abomination, or have some of them actually figured out they are being screwed and not enjoying it. Wait until “grandma/pa” come before the death panels – never mind, they will happily be waiting for their wealth to be redistributed to El Salvadore.

       
    • APatriotFirst
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 7:55am

      Keep in mind one reason some things are being done by Obama……..

      Elections 2012……Due to many states putting through a new requirement on ballots…..a candidate must show proof of citizenship in order to have name put on ballot………..will mean that Obama’s name will NOT be on the ballot in these states.

      Election 2012…….if Obama can not be on the ballot, he needs a new way of staying in office…….which means an Emergency of some type must be done so the Govt. can declare **Emergency Law** and Obama stays in office. No election needed.

      Which is why Obama and his union goons are trying so very hard to cause the conservatives, Tea Parties to cause riots [which wont happen] BUT, they will have those riots done by unions and the blame will go to TP and conservs. They can even make arrests and release info that the arrested are TP/conservs.
      ——————————————————————
      I have thought that we all need to go enmass to DC and very quietly and peacefully surround congress/white house with signs of *Impeach Now*, but then realized that even if peaceful, the left will turn it into mayhem. And give Obama what he needs.
      We have been surrounded on all sides by this fight. And I am at a lost as to how we win. How do we keep our country intact?

      I feel very strongly that we will not be voting in 2012. We won’t be given a chance to.
      And on top of all this, we need to protect ourselves and our country from shariah law being implemented.

      Ever see the old carnival show where a guy starts spinning plates on poles, one at a time, and ends up with maybe 10 or 12 plates spinning at once? That is how I see us now, trying to keep up with those plates.
      When and how do we win?

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    • gman46
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 9:28am

      Exactly what else is new? We knew he was about redistribution of wealth, which I really think this is about, since it has no underlying way to cut medical costs.

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    • Uncle Crusty
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 9:32am

      LOL, I did not know all of these things, thanks Blaze…let’s see, tax revolts, food riots, terrorism and possible civil war, that is our future people! You can take that to the bankrupt banks we now have!

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    • ebill
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 9:35am

      True Nancy had to pass the bill so we could find out what is I’m it.
      Isn‘t she sweets that’s what you get. when you elect Dems.

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    • TXPilot
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 9:53am

      @APATRIOTFIRST…..I hope you are wrong, but I fear you are probably right. Theres a very good chance that if Obama and his goon see that there is no possible way to get him reeelected, we will not be having elections in 2012….we are living under what is quickly becoming a “totalitarian regime”, and I think they will be making that official in the near future……civil war anyone???

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    • MontanaRob
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 10:23am

      I don’t know how you guys are fairing, but I just recieved notice that my health insurance is rising 35%! It had not gone up in 2 years and the last 2 raies were 5% annually.

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    • RoguePatriot
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 10:24am

      After I read and researched the bill(because I do that for a living and then write a summary for the elected officials in the state I live in) I was invited by one of our state senators to speak at a townhall about Obamacare and the importance of passing the health care freedom act here in Missouri. While I was up speaking there was an older lady with her son sitting in back telling everyone I was lying about what I was saying and that is when I walked to the back and showed her the highlighted areas in the actual bill which took me 2 days to print out. And she still said I typed all of it up and it was not the real bill. people rolled out of their chairs laughing at her!

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    • RoguePatriot
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 10:26am

      It is also funny to hear all the ignorant people who are in total support of this bill argue with me about when they do not have a clue what is in it. They claim they read it but I quickly prove they are lying by asking them a few questions!

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    • jzs
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 10:54am

      Hey, here‘s some things you also didn’t know about healthcare reform:

      •Keep you covered when you get sick: Simple mistakes or typos will no longer be grounds for insurance companies to cancel your insurance.
      •Cover kids with pre-existing conditions: Your kids can no longer be denied health coverage just because they have a pre-existing condition like hay fever, asthma, or previous sports injuries. This protection extends to all plans, except “grandfathered” plans in the individual market.
      •Allow young adults to stay on their parents’ plan up to age 26: Even if their first few jobs don’t provide health benefits, your kids can still remain covered by your insurance.
      •Remove lifetime limits: You will no longer need to worry about your health insurer limiting the amount of coverage available through their plan if you face an expensive medical condition. This will help Americans who develop chronic conditions from taking drastic measures to avoid medical bankruptcy.
      •Phase out annual limits: Many plans include annual dollar limits on how much medical coverage can be obtained per year. On all non-“grandfathered” plans in the individual market, these limits will be phased out over the next three years.
      For any insurance plan that goes into effect after September 23, 2010, your insurance company must:

      •Pay for preventive care like mammograms and immunizations: Addressing problems before they start can help keep you healthier, and new insurance plans will now cover many preventative tests and immunizations without any copayment.
      •Give you a better appeals process for insurance claims: Now you’ll have a guaranteed and fair path to help you receive the benefits you paid for if insurance companies deny your claim.
      •Let you choose your own doctor: Health reform makes it clear that you can choose any available participating primary care provider as your provider, and any available participating pediatrician to be your child’s primary care provider.
      •Provide easier access to OB-GYN services: Women will no longer be required to have a referral from a primary care provider before seeking coverage for obstetrical or gynecological (OB-GYN) care from a participating OB-GYN specialist.
      •Allow you to use the nearest emergency room without penalty: If an emergency arises while you’re away, you will no longer have to drive home to your in-network provider to receive in-network benefits.

      jzs  
    • independentvoteril
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 10:58am

      yesterday my cousin went to her doctor.. she had a rash.. they were asking questions and putting her answers in the computer.. well since we have been against OBAMACARE from the start she lied on personal questions she felt were NONE of the GOVERNMENTS business she wouldn’t even admit to having an occasional glass of wine..this was at the BEGINNING of the visit.. THAN the doctor came in and was carrying a lab top.. looked at her.. and typed in EVERYTHING.. NEEDLESS to say she WON’T be visiting her doctor at his office again..she doesn’t even want to go for the usual female tests since they to will now be on the desk of whatever government official wants to access them.. this morning my husband had to go to the doctor for test results.. again the SAME thing… only the nurse and doctor were REALLY on edge with all this added work.. he also said he is NOT allowed to write out a prescription anymore it is ALL on the computer.. they can’t WRITE anything even in your file.. so if the system crashes OOPS .. they have NOTHING on you.. ANYWHERE.. and if you want to change where you get your prescriptions it a ROYAL PAIN.. they have to change it in the computer.. you have to KNOW which drug store your going to go to if they are a chain.. etc.. THIS IS INSANE.. The doctor is taking it better than the nurses and the patients..

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    • Anonymous T. Irrelevant
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 11:10am

      I am hoping the SCOTUS finds it is unconstitutional by then, but am afraid that here may be too many left-leaning judges there for it to happen. I didn’t hear, but did the regime file an appeal in time? I heard they were going to file and appeal a day or two before, but am not sure if it was in time.

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    • jzs
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 11:15am

      independentvoteril, the government doesn’t have access to your medical information.

      Doctors do ask information about your health, family history etc. They all do. If they didn’t, they should lose their license to practice.

      jzs  
    • hud
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 11:22am

      TO Thatsit Tell us how the FBI interview goes. Good Luck

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    • Obamunism
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 11:50am

      @THATSITIVEHADENOUGH

      We conservatives do not hate anyone. We reserve that for the left of this country. That is their game. That is their mantra. Hateful, racist, violent rhetoric have been their game for decades, and is their only weapon against conservatism. We conservatives are better than that, always remember that.

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    • Silversmith
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 12:01pm

      @jzs While the things you list are lovely and should be in existence, the price for them in this bill is far too much. For these treats you give up your freedom of choice. Without competition, how long will any of those items you list last? (You can trust the Government, just ask an American Indian) You will also be giving up a large portion of your worth either in new taxes or penalties depending on you choices. If you own a small business, you will probably have to radically change it or close and go to work for someone else (the fed?) to survive. But no one will get anything here without being squeezed. That also doesn’t even get into the sections of the bill that are involved with regulations that have nothing to do with health care.

      You have been buffaloed by lofty language and “free” treats, the price of which is the freedoms we have enjoyed in this country.

      Keep the treats. Repeal the bill before it’s too late.

      Silversmith

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    • CatB
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 12:11pm

      How about the FACT that it has been ruled UNCONSTITUTIONAL? What about that .. and the FACT that Obama doesn’t want it fast tracked to the SCOTUS .. Perhaps the law professor/community organizer knows it too!

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    • sdranger
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 12:28pm

      To: APATRIOTFIRST I agree with you and have been saying this for a very, very long time. Just remember Obama and his cronies (more importantly his cronies for I feel Obama is just a stoog for them) don‘t care if it’s the Tea Party or Unions or Anarcist’s that cause the trouble. Trouble will be caused he will declare “emergency law”. The only fly in the ointment was the elections of 2010. The real question is will they have the guts to disban Congress?

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    • Justa.Regular.Joe
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 12:30pm

      @RoguePatriot – Now that you’ve done the research (thanks!) Can you tell me the definitions for United States and State contained in the Bill?

      (Yes there is a method to my madness) Lawfulness of the bill is directly related to legislative jurisdiction. And most folks don’t realize that most of what CONgress passes as law should really only apply to its territories and possessions, So, check the definitions. See if the States of the union are specifically called out in the definition of “State” or does it say something like “State includes the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, Guam and America Samoa (or something to that effect…)

      If the union States are not SPECIFICALLY called out in the definition, they they are excluded. The term “Includes” is one of LIMITED expansion. And once a word is defined in the law it becomes a “term” and can only have that specially defined meaning (unless it’s redefined again for a different section).

      I know it’s all confusing. That’s why we the people seem to think something means one thing but the lawyers and politicians KNOW it means something else…

      And here’s another one. Comes under the title of statutory construction. Did you know that the Supreme Court has said that unless CONgress explicitly states in the preamble of an act that the act will apply to the States of the union, it is assumed that they are legislating in their territorial capacity or in other words, for the territories, possessions of the United States and for the District of Columbia. Wow, unless they say specifically that a law applies to the union States it doesn’t. What a concept!

      And just so that everyone is thoroughly confused, The united States of America in not the same thing as the United States. No really, I’m not kidding. Go search on the 3 meanings of United States. You won’t believe what you pull back. (This is also from the Supreme Court. I have the court cites on my computer at home.)

      So in short – we should all be researching things like legislative construction and intent, the definitions of the “terms” (specially defined words in a law) in a bill and to who each and every piece of legislation applies. AND we should give Bill Clinton a big Thank You! If it wasn’t for his smart mouthed, “it all depends on what your definition of the word is is” comment. He really let the cat out of the bag with that one…

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 12:53pm

      When you show your friends that Pelosi wanted Obamacare to pass before finding out what was in it, remember to show Michael Moore exposing Congress for doing the same thing before:

      Fahrenheit 9/11-The Movie-Part 6
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ39XAyf2Jc#t=7m

      And yes, that was John Conyers (D-MI) – THIS John Conyers:

      Obamacare a ‘Platform’ for Socialized Medicine — Rep. Conyers Makes Startling Admission
      http://www.theblaze.com/stories/rep-conyers-admits-obamacare-just-a-platform-for-socialized-medicine/

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    • MsMonsoon
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 1:29pm

      Silversmith: Well said!
      jzs: You’ve been duped!

      If this is so great, why have so many union anf government groups, been allowed to opt out? Even the City of New York is considering applying for a waiver.

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    • jzs
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 1:44pm

      Silversmith, the CBO says the health care bill will reduce the deficit. Okay, believe Glenn instead, that’s your right.

      You don’t give up freedom of choice, and insurance companies still have to compete for your business, nothing about that has changed.

      Every single industrialized country in the world has some form of universal health care. Those countries are at least trying to take care of their own citizens. The idea that it’s a virtue, it’s patriotic, to not try to give support to the “poorest among us” is pretty pathetic.

      Well, all I can say is that I hope your child isn’t born with a birth defect (pre-existing condition), that your insurance company doesn’t drop you when you get cancer, that your entire family isn’t bankrupted by an illness, and that you don’t lose your job (no more insurance for you!). All in the name of supporting the “right” for insurance companies to rip you off.

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 2:14pm

      @jzs,

      “•Cover kids with pre-existing conditions: Your kids can no longer be denied health coverage just because they have a pre-existing condition like hay fever, asthma, or previous sports injuries. This protection extends to all plans, except “grandfathered” plans in the individual market.”

      This is actually a bad thing, given what health insurance is.

      The goal of insurance is to reduce the cost of health care (without insurance, it’s more expensive) by spreading the costs of health care over many policy holders (like Socialism, Social Security, etc.).

      Insurance only works when everyone CANNOT access the money in the pool – which is why there are restrictions on coverage for pre-existing conditions. Otherwise the policy holders’ money would be spent up and then no one would get insurance.

      And while the goal of health care itself is to make people healthy, the goal of all insurance companies is to reduce the cost of a given service like health care. Health care is people focused, BUT INSURANCE, BY DEFINITION IS FISCALLY FOCUSED. Insurance companies aren’t supposed to care about the health of their policy holders, because that’s not what insurance is.

      Which is why us Capitalists say that the solution to high health care costs is a free market health care industry. Health care is done by people who wish to make a living doing so – hardly anyone would spend their time and money learning about how to take care of others if they weren’t compensated for the work they do; This is how you know health care is not a right.

      Competition and freedom to innovate would lower the costs of health care and raise the quality.

      Please watch this set of videos, when you get the chance:

      Stossel Show – The Tragedy Of The Commons! (Part 1/4)
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tlVHAr_02c

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 2:59pm

      @jzs,

      “Silversmith, the CBO says the health care bill will reduce the deficit. Okay, believe Glenn instead, that’s your right.”

      The CBO reported on a version of Obamacare that did not include the Doc Fix, when in fact they are being given in a stand alone Bill. And when the CBO was asked what would be the effect on the deficit if the Doc Fix was included in the original report, they said it would actully increase the deficit.

      Fox News Viewers Are Misinformed Study, The Critique
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8KHOgyYyHQ#t=8m53s

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 3:03pm

      “The CBO reported on a version of Obamacare that did not include the Doc Fix, when in fact they are being given in a stand alone Bill.”

      Bah, that should have read:

      “The CBO report on Obamacare did not include the Doc Fix, when in fact they are being given through stand alone legislation.”

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    • MsMonsoon
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 3:36pm

      jzs: Did you not see and hear with your own eyes and ears, John Conyers (D-MI) saying, “This IS a platform to a Single Payer System.”

      That means NO choice and No insurance companys competing for anything.

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    • docvet
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 4:21pm

      Uh, folks, I and CATB want to know about the fact that IT WAS DETERMINED IN FEDERAL COURT TO FOUND UNCONSTITUTIONAL regardless of the fact that it hasn’t gone to SCOTUS. How is it still being enforced?

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    • Justthefactsmam
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 4:49pm

      Something else that I found out that starts this year, and you will see in 2012. the total cost of your health insurance will be on your W-2 for tax year 2011…just so you are aware of how much it costs…was told this by 2 different HR departments.

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    • MsMonsoon
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 5:35pm

      Just The Facts Mam: As I understand it, “the powers that be” have allowed us to delay that bit until 2012.

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    • jzs
      Posted on March 25, 2011 at 11:59pm

      Doctor’s Labor, you‘ve said a lot and I agree with some of what you’ve said, although not all. This thread will be gone tomorrow, so I won’t debate you point by point. But I’ll take issue with this stand-alone statement that you made:

      Competition and freedom to innovate would lower the costs of health care and raise the quality.

      Presumably America had the “freedom to innovate” for the 100 years before health care reform was passed. Was the cost of health lowered? Never. The cost of health care has never gone down, and it skyrocketed long before Obama even took office, let alone passed the health care bill.

      The US does have the best health care of any country in the world. There’s no doubt about that. But that advanced health care is only available to the rich, or those with great insurance (people who are also probably well off). But if you aren‘t rich or don’t have great health insurance, like the vast majority of Americans, you’re not going to get that newest stint for coronary occlusion. In fact, you’re not getting anything. You’re just going to die from a heart attack.

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on March 26, 2011 at 4:39am

      @jzs,

      “Presumably America had the “freedom to innovate” for the 100 years before health care reform was passed. Was the cost of health lowered? Never. The cost of health care has never gone down, and it skyrocketed long before Obama even took office, let alone passed the health care bill.”

      The past hundred years have been heavily influenced by the Progressives with their policis – such as Social Security, Unemployment Insurance, farming subsidies, the Minimum Wage, etc. – these all artificially raise the cost of various goods and services – including health care – which causes inflation. That’s why when your grandparents were younger, gas costed ten cents a gallon.

      “The US does have the best health care of any country in the world. There’s no doubt about that. But that advanced health care is only available to the rich, or those with great insurance (people who are also probably well off). But if you aren‘t rich or don’t have great health insurance, like the vast majority of Americans, you’re not going to get that newest stint for coronary occlusion. In fact, you’re not getting anything. You’re just going to die from a heart attack.”

      Health care is very important to each of us personally, and that, admittedly, makes it a little more difficult to make the case that needs to be made.

      But it’s easier to do when you acknowledge that health care is done by individuals who have the right to be free and to do with their time and skill whatever pleases them. Doctors aren’t slaves – we do not have a right to their services. Therefore health care is not a right.

      Moreover, if there wasn’t the incentive to make money – much like in the teaching profession – there wouldn’t be as many health care workers; Because while doctors in general probably love to save lives and help people, if they didn’t get paid enough to cover at least the costs of education and long hours, they they simply wouldn’t be able to afford it.

      Also, there would be a lower quality of health care because there wouldn’t be as much incentive to innovate.

      And as an owner of his own skills, a doctor has the right to try to set the price for his services as high as he can – his body, knowledge, time, and effort, belong to him alone.

      This is the baseline set of principles from which you must base your economic ideas about health care, or anything else.

      It’s a GOOD thing to have the freedom to choose what you will do for work, or who you will work for. It’s a GOOD thing to have the freedom to try to do something better than someone else.

      It makes a lot of sense that advanced health care costs more, because it’s costs the doctor more to do it – it’s advanced.

      Which is why when you cut regulations, free people to compete, and you don’t tax people at a higher rate just for being rich, the economy as a whole becomes much more productive.

      If you have some time, I highly recommend the following video, which addresses this issue using a specific life and death example.

      Re: I OWN WARNER CHILCOTT!
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFWTCBjtZa0

      (Lee Doren is my hero. :D )

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    • A Doctors Labor Is Not My Right
      Posted on March 26, 2011 at 4:44am

      @jzs,

      You’re right that this thread will probably be old news by tomorrow. Thank you for the discussion.

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    • Ruler4You
      Posted on March 26, 2011 at 10:44am

      Legislators didn‘t ’know’ anything until it was “passed”. Now it has passed and we find we are screwed. “IS” that a surprise?

      Give a kid the key to a candy shop, are you ‘surprised’ he ‘steals’ candy?

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    • Silversmith
      Posted on March 26, 2011 at 11:33am

      @jzs I see you miss that I support all the things you listed as valuable and to be included in any revision of how we do health care in this country. This bill is far being just that list. What you are not talking about is the problem, and indeed the problem with this administration.

      Silversmith

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    • sleazyhippo
      Posted on March 27, 2011 at 9:44am

      I like the way our duly elected President has worked with the whole Congress to institute patriotic improvements in the lives of the middle and lower classes to make the future better for our children and grandchildren. We as a people are wise and fortunate to have elected such brave and righteously religious representatives of our diverse, entrepreneurial, intelligent and hard working country.

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    • RoguePatriot
      Posted on March 27, 2011 at 9:45am

      @JZS, you do not have a clue. Actually Insurance companies do not have to cover pre-existing conditions, and after 2014 you will have to have dependent coverage even if you do not have a child. Medical care will be rationed. All the crud that you spilled is all false and that is fact from reading and researching the bill, not what Glenn said. See I have this special job that lets me work with Constitutional lawyers that break down the text of the bills, and everything you just spoke of is leftist talking points and they are false. Read the bill, and research it, then you can have some room to talk about it! Ignorance of something is never the way to go!

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    • RoguePatriot
      Posted on March 27, 2011 at 9:48am

      Oh and by the way, the real CBO number come out not too long ago on Obama care and they revised their numbers and said that this is going to add to the deficit. That is not Glenn speaking that is the CBO speaking!

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    • RoguePatriot
      Posted on March 27, 2011 at 10:33am

      Oh yea, and Obamacare=600 companies getting exemptions from Obamacare!

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    • RoguePatriot
      Posted on March 27, 2011 at 10:36am

      And having your child on your insurance until he is 26 years old would only be a good thing for you leftist. A child is not a child after he or she is 18 years old. Plus if the child goes to school in the past they could stay on parents insurance until they graduated. But a kid dependent on his parents for anything until he is 26 years old verifies them as a loser. Like I said only a leftist can see this as a good thing. Plus this bill is a job killer and has already proved that and it is not even fully implemented yet!

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    • RoguePatriot
      Posted on March 27, 2011 at 10:43am

      Also the exemptions are unconstitutional because it violates the general Welfare clause. The General Welfare clause makes it to were the bill has to go to everyone in all 50 states, so in turn teh exemptions are unconstitutional!

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