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Oops: Anti-Koch Filmmakers Caught Leaving Hot Mic Voicemail — They Eat ‘Scrambled Babies’

It’s no secret that the left loves to demonize Charles and David Koch. But a group of filmmakers behind an anti-Koch documentary may be a little red today after they were caught leaving the brothers a voicemail — a voicemail that was a result of them messing up and thinking they had already hung up.

Business Insider has the details:

Three months ago, Jesse Lava of Brave New Foundation called Charles Koch and left a polite message telling him that Brave New Foundation would soon release its documentary, “Koch Brothers Exposed,” and invited him to watch and respond to it.

“We’re gonna talk about your factory in Arkansas that has caused cancer for a lot of people in the community there. I have a lot of members of my family who died of cancer so it‘s very personal for me and I’d love to know what your response is to our work. Thank you very much. Looking forward to hearing from you. Bye bye.” he said.

After that, he hung up the phone. Or so he thought.

The message was still recording, and Lava could still be heard talking to who is presumably another staffer at Brave New Foundation. The exchange is not too endearing. KochFacts.com, a site run by Koch Industries, posted a recording of the message on YouTube to coincide with today’s release of the documentary.

So what did they say on accident? How about that the Koch brothers like to eat babies, especially “soft-boiled“ and ”scrambled” ones.

Here’s the audio:

The filmmakers responded with a blog post calling the brothers shameful:

Today, the Kochs posted audio of me leaving a message for them months ago asking them to respond to our cancer investigation and laying out why the issue is personal for me. The Kochs accompany the audio with text saying I’m “harassing” them and “exploit[ing] [my] own family to push [my] agenda.” From the Koch brothers’ vantage point as billionaires with mansions all over the country, politics may be an abstraction or a game. But to the 99%, it’s no game. It’s personal. And while smearing me and diminishing the importance of my family may be preferable to them to actually looking into the problems in Crossett, that is not what will help make our country a stronger, healthier place. Shame on them.

We‘ll let you determine if that’s true.

Comments (92)

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  • TheLeftMadeMeRight
    Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:05am

    Oh Jessie you are so AWESOME!

    The left better pray (oh wait they can’t) the better hope the country doesn’t collapse because all the law abiding citizens have had enough of this crap and without law and order it would be open season on these losers.

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  • mikee1
    Posted on March 30, 2012 at 10:56am

    Is that after the NEO-SATANIST DUMMYCRAPS ABORT THE BABIES by the MILLIONS? lol. YOU must stop the NEO-SATANIST DUMMYCRAPS or they will destroy YOU.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:27am

      I find it amusing that Lava carries on about harming babies while he supports abortions at any stage of pregnancy.

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    • oneshiner
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:53am

      You could tell these were really serious and concerned citizens, after they thought they hung up the phone. Things like this aren’t merely an accident, I think it’s kinda payback for their stupidity trying to turn good people into a scandalous lie about them. Good job, just keep up the idiocy. God knows your heart. Sick people and sick minds will never change, just a tool of Satan.

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    • BlenGeck
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 4:13pm

      Commie Lefties…..

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    • dmerwin
      Posted on March 31, 2012 at 4:26pm

      Can you say “See you in court”?

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  • Treaty
    Posted on March 30, 2012 at 10:53am

    The left has no bottom.

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    • paperpushermj
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:48am

      Have you noticed the Left ends up destroying everything it touches.

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    • oneshiner
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:59am

      Hey Lava, I have a great idea for a TRUE film expose’ for your next project. Why not show our current president for what he really is? So many things against him, I‘m not sure where I’d start! But I‘m sure I could do quick reference and show how he’s brought America to it’s knees. But that was the intention.
      Right? Fundamentally change America, he said. Well, he did, but not in a good way.

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  • schroeder123
    Posted on March 30, 2012 at 10:37am

    wah? Whos Cotch

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    • republitarian
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:36am

      You don’t know? They are cybernetic beings sent here from the future to destroy mankind!

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  • barber2
    Posted on March 30, 2012 at 10:24am

    Gosh I wonder what our Marxist Democrats have planned for May 1 ? Am sure it will be similar to the other riots that Communists and anarchists have to celebrate the Workers of the World day ( Saint Joseph must be twirling along with JFK ) all around the world !

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  • SPUGGYLIPZZ
    Posted on March 30, 2012 at 9:55am

    Dang you guys have short memories when you want too. Koch Brothers were caught doing business with Iran through a French subsidiary just last year…

    “A Bloomberg Markets investigation has found that Koch Industries — in addition to being involved in improper payments to win business in Africa, India and the Middle East — has sold millions of dollars of petrochemical equipment to Iran, a country the U.S. identifies as a sponsor of global terrorism.”

    Quick history lesson- remember our war with Iraq? Remember how advanced munitions, shaped charges and other IED techniques appeared that cut through US armor like it was nothing? Anybody think Iran was not behind that jump in technology?

    Koch bros didn’t have a problem with giving that regime money. I do.

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    • barber2
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 10:19am

      Welcome to the Blaze since you just joined today ! Duh. Having looked at your posts, you must be the Troll sent to Demonize the Koch Brothers on the Blaze. Please give my best to your mentor , George Soros. Now please go away. ( You guys must be getting real desperate with all of the targeted Trolls you are sending to the Blaze )

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    • SPUGGYLIPZZ
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 10:25am

      No, I read the Blaze everyday for about 2 years now, or whenever it started, sorry I forget. I rarely post and have forgotten my last two usernames/passwords.

      I see you don’t dispute my point about them doing business with Iran though.

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    • barber2
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 10:44am

      I do not believe a word you say or write. Sorry.

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    • TheLeftMadeMeRight
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:13am

      COMPLETE BS; The Left can’t stand the Koch Brothers because they give money to the Republican party, period.

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    • jpeditor2
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 1:46pm

      Your claims are total BS, indicative of you sucking at the lar-Left teat of media matters and other anti-American media GARBAGE:

      Here’s the response from the koch brothers.

      http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/koch-responds-to-bloomberg/2011/03/29/gIQA3KzNIL_blog.html

      When you’re done apologizing for being a fool and publishing lies, why don’t you go investigate how Wall Street and Fannie Mae were tied to the DEMS WHILE THEY BURNED DOWN THE HOUSE?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZVw3no2A4

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    • graywolf11
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 3:25pm

      Crickets—chirp….chirp. Facts suck…..

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  • Glock31
    Posted on March 30, 2012 at 9:46am

    i think this idiot has cancer as well, and it has spread to his brain. what other reason would he be acting so stupid? :)

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  • Old Sarge
    Posted on March 30, 2012 at 9:32am

    Let’s see, Lefty Jesse drops in on the Koch Bros. phone and leaves a drive-by, snarky smart-ass, semi-threatening message. Psuedo-intellect Jesse then can’t correctly hang up the phone, and giggles about his “brave” actions like a schoolgirl.

    Jesse then gets offended, when his very own words and actions are then played back for the world to see exactly how stupid, snarkly, and smart-ass he and his lefty brothers and sisters are.

    Oh the horror Jesse. The horror. You CAN be held accountable for your actions, even though you ARE ON THE LEFT.

    If you play stupid games Jesse, you win stupid prizes.

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    • TheLeftMadeMeRight
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:08am

      Yea this isn’t very far advanced from a 10 year old making crank calls…

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    • oneshiner
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 1:39pm

      Remember calling the drug store and asking if they had Prince Albert in a can?
      We’d tell them to open it and let him out…………..Now that quite juvenile, kind like Jesse Lava.

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    • barber2
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 2:55pm

      Our current Lefties remind me more of the old Halloween , night time trick : ” wrap doggie- do in newspaper, put it on someone’s porch, light it with a match, and then ring the door bell .” Yes, reminds me of our young, misguided radicals : the secrecy of their delivery, the quality of their message, and the mess they make ….

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  • TruthBe
    Posted on March 30, 2012 at 9:31am

    The Liberals need to be jailed for their crimes against Humanity.

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  • TruthBe
    Posted on March 30, 2012 at 9:29am

    The Liberals need to be jailed for they crimes against Humanity.

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  • THX-1138
    Posted on March 30, 2012 at 9:27am

    Jesse, dude, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku

    Go for it…

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  • progressiveslayer
    Posted on March 30, 2012 at 8:59am

    I wonder what caused Jesse the lava lamps mental retardation? Probably years of indoctrination from the lunatics on the left.They have a problem with ‘rich’ people who‘s political affiliation doesn’t align with theirs,if you‘re ’rich‘ and think like them you’re okay,bunch of candyass hypocrites.

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  • genusadfundum
    Posted on March 30, 2012 at 8:59am

    So not funny but I never have understood the leftist mental condition. With all the false compassion leftist generate, who is suprised by the baby eating comments. Their value for life is non-existent and leaves me chilled when I think about what is to come. What will be the tipping point?

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    • HorseCrazy
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 9:56am

      wouldn‘t the world make a little more sense if these idiot leftist actually had a good cause like I don’t know feeding orphans? nope they make up faux causes and pretend enemies and try and get tax payer funds to do basically nothing. the mental illness from the left just drives me crazy. why can they not do something productive with their lives?

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  • TEARS FOR AMERICA
    Posted on March 30, 2012 at 8:59am

    Terror/mob tactics against Americans, and all the while the O adminstration pours fuel on the fire of class warfare…incredible…

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  • getourcountryback
    Posted on March 30, 2012 at 8:57am

    If the so called 99 percent would get into boats and sail off to parts unknown this country would be a much better place to live and so much more pleasant on a daily basis. Losers.

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    • TexasHunter
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 12:03pm

      That would be nice wouldn’t it. I know that is not the case because it would make to much sense. True Americans are just going to have to do some spring cleaning. When they decide to do this spring rise.

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  • jas0707
    Posted on March 30, 2012 at 8:51am

    Immature Mindless Leftist Twits.

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    • Zipit
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 9:51am

      And like, “they don‘t eat meat because they’re veterinarians”.

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  • garyganu
    Posted on March 30, 2012 at 8:47am

    Why do liberals despise those who become successful the “old fashioned way? It seems they only admire those who become successful through debauchery and those who emulate gangsters and satanists. This is the reason why I despise the romance that my generation feels toward Rock and Roll. When someone says, “That Rocks”, it brings up visions of drug addicted, womanizing, selfish and lazy hippies.

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  • GhostOfJefferson
    Posted on March 30, 2012 at 8:37am

    The only actual “charge” I‘ve ever seen against the Koch’s is that they’re rich and that they are not leftists. For some reason, this infuriates the Left, who tirelessly demonize these two brothers. If you’ve ever wondered about the attitude of the hate driven anti-capitalist folks in the Soviet Union, look no further than the Left and their snarling at anybody who doesn’t support them.

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    • HKS
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 8:54am

      Communist, leftist,progressives, Muslims, Unions or any other name they choose describes the basic mentality of the group. Communist would say “be red or dead” and the others work the same way, their way or dead. It’s the schoolyard bully routine all grown up. Some take that very literally as you will see. It will go as far as you let it go.

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    • SPUGGYLIPZZ
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 9:55am

      A Bloomberg Markets investigation has found that Koch Industries — in addition to being involved in improper payments to win business in Africa, India and the Middle East — has sold millions of dollars of petrochemical equipment to Iran, a country the U.S. identifies as a sponsor of global terrorism.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 10:06am

      Hi Spugg

      I don’t hold Iran in disdain. I don’t particularly like the place either. The war drums don’t work on me. Sorry.

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    • SPUGGYLIPZZ
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 10:18am

      ghost of jefferson, I enjoy reading your comments/perspective. I read the Blaze everyday but rarely comment.

      Sorry but I do have an issue with giving money to a big business in country that supplies weapons which make it easier to kill US troops.

      later

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    • barber2
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:48am

      SPUGGY ” reads the Blaze daily but rarely comments .” And I am the King of Sheba but rarely sit on my throne.

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  • asybot12
    Posted on March 30, 2012 at 8:35am

    I can’t believe the childish behavior of the “lava’s” types , ……oh I just remembered I can still see and hear my buddies doing this (at age 10) when they were hiding in the basement and their parents were not at home, I have grown up some what since then (they still haven’t). And that is the really frightening part they are now (“grown” up) with a lot more so called strength but still just as clueless.

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  • kegbuna
    Posted on March 30, 2012 at 8:31am

    It seems like the Koch’s are attempting to use this merely because it is a “hot mic” moment. The things said in the recording don’t undermine their arguments at all. The Kochs really are no one’s friends, and they fight to continue allowing their industries to pollute the environment while at the same time stripping power away from the worker. This argument that workers should be free so that is why unions are bad is such a crock, because as the Kochs know VERY well.

    One worker has no voice and no power, and if their entire industry continues to undervalue and demean them, they are forced to live through it. It is not the easiest thing in the world for someone to just switch up their profession, and to have that happen on such a wide scale such that it would cause businesses to change their practices is so improbable that it is next to impossible.

    This is why we have labor groups and watch dogs, because the intervention often has to come from the outside.

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    • asybot12
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 8:46am

      @ kegbuna (kebunga perhaps?). You are so living in the past it is pathetic. The unions (their leadership) are in it for their own individual gains (believe me I was there!). If your union leaders were all for “equality” and equal rights why are they living in palaces, flying around in private planes and need security where ever they go?? If you and them are so righteous are you making the same $$ as they are?? Union members are bullied in to paying membership dues that are never returned, just think about it when was the last time your union boss came around and “Shared your table?

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 8:48am

      Yeah, you’re owed a lifestyle and job buddy. Sure.

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    • The Gooch
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 8:56am

      Huh… so the Koch’s are in business to make money and much of what they say to counter that charge may be lip service. Hey, I know some other guys like that. Perhaps you’ve heard of a few: Al Gore, Michael Moore, any green industry receiving taxpayer money…
      Unions are dinosaurs that destroy pension plans. My brother is experiencing this in his line of work as a boilermaker. Too many retirees, not enough workers. Who watches the watchmen? Greed isn’t consigned to one end of the spectrum. To assert such indicates bias or ignorance.

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    • EqualJustice
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 8:59am

      kegbuna.. YOU ARE ONE OF THEM? hahhaha Sorry, but you can not DEFEND this moron OR his behavior. HAHAHAHA ‘UH OH’ is right! PROOF that liberals are SNEAKY LITTLE LIARS. I LOVE IT. The TRUTH will set you free, brother. :) HAHAHHAHHAHAHHA
      BTW way.. UNIONS ARE OBSOLETE since we now and HAVE HAD laws that protect workers. UNIONS ARE ONLY GOOD FOR TAKING YOUR MONEY AND SPENDING IT ON THE COMMUNIST AGENDA TO CONTROL YOU. WAKE UP! RIGHT TO WORK IS THE WAY TO GO. You might not like it because you might have to actually WORK. hahaha You libs.. you kill me. :)

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    • Steve28
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 9:00am

      Unions are part of the problem. They should have never been allowed to form with government employees since they basically sell their votes to the highest bidder, which has been the Democratic party, for wages and benefits that far exceed the private sector. As tax payers we all pay too much for their services. Many Unions are no more than mobsters. Unions have outlasted their need. They now are just trying to protect their turf in any way possible including coercion and violence.

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 9:04am

      Workers of the world unite, right commie?

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    • NHwinter
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 9:11am

      kegbuna – Have you looked at what Soros does with his money? Destroys the finances of countries!!!! Promotes Communism!!!! Give his money to all left wing groups and media!!! Koch brothers are small potatoes compared to what Soros does for the left. Its alright for Soros to support the left, but not alright for the Koch brothers to support what they believe in? Grow up.

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    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 9:15am

      You communist heathen take your unions and stick it,unions are good for one thing, forcing companies to move to right to work states to avoid the union pigs.

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    • michael48
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 9:38am

      keg bunghole…your indoctrination is complete..now back in grannies garage…lemmimg chow and kool-aide …just for you , comrade..please play in the middle of a freeway…idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • objectivetruth
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 10:05am

      What the hell?Obviously you have never had the good fortune to live and work in a right to work state.Hate to break it to you companies in those states will lose there shirts quickly if they behave immaturely.Workers in those states vote with there feet quite literally.No union dues harassement thugs or incompetence standing in there way.Don‘t like it don’t show up for work.Ever see 90 % absenteeism.I have and I’ve seen the business owner find there meandering workers.The business owners made the reasonable concessions that his meandering workers needed.Others didn‘t and didn’t remain in business much longer.The workers in these states don’t want miracles simply to be treated with human diginity.
      Can’t switch professions quickly?That proves a point I’ve long made that those workers in right to work states have more skills and occupations than others in the country.I have a minimum of six with another four I could work in.My prospects have dimished rapidly due to the economy and other situations I don’t care to discuss as they are personal.
      To the need for government oversight.Certain industrys do need oversight.However they need effective oversight not to be overregulated.Overregulation is a direct product of unions.Its also another reason the economy is going down the tubes.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 10:55am

      As soon as the modern day Goebbels invoked “the 99%” he showed who he was…just another Media Matters operative. The Kochs are a lot smarter than the denizens of Media Matters. They won’t soil their hands by taking the bait of a lefty operative to “comment” on any propaganda film. Lava was dumb enough to not hang up properly and showed himself to be nothing but the usual spiteful, demented lefty tool used by Soros, Lerner..et al. The left seems to be falling all over itself lately.

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    • kegbuna
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:52am

      I knew I would receive some push-back for my comment but I didn’t expect it to get this level. I’m by no means a communist, and I work hard for the money I earn. I don’t think things should come free, but I do believe that there is inherent power in wealth and that wealth disproportionately allows those who wield it to act indifferently. Imagine, a corporation can move its factory to punish the workers in that state for organizing, yet could a family depending on middle class income suddenly move states or even to the next town over just to escape a poor work environment? There is an obvious mismatch here. I don’t think people realize this.

      It took organization to get workplaces safe with proper fire equipment and procedure. Workers needed to organize in order to get vacation. These things didn’t come just because owners thought they would be nice.

      As for what George Soros does “for the left”. You need to see where the personal benefits lie in relation to the funding. Wouldn’t Soros benefit better in a world that the Kochs are pushing for? Wouldn’t an unregulated market where he could use his substantial financial holdings to bully people around better suit a man in his position?

      Let me know where he is bankrupting countries, though I think that argument is tangential in the first place. I was talking about the validity of the man’s claims against Koch versus this recording they picked up.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 12:23pm

      KEGBUNA? Please…enough of your lefty rote. There are labour laws in place today. Put your violin down you’re not very convincing. Soros makes his money on down economies. This is well established. He bets on downturns. Recently however, he‘s invested heavily in Italian debt which is why he’s been lobbying for bailouts for the Europeans. His debt holdings will be worthless if Italy cannot meet it’s debts.
      Take a look at how Soros treated the bank of England.
      http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/08/george-soros-bank-of-england.asp#axzz1qcKehRSA
      Please enough of your acting performance and your .”what? Show me what Soros did” garbage. Soros is actively working to populate state courts with liberal judges. Seeing where Obamacare stands right now in the SCOTUS…I‘d say Soros knows he can affect policy throught the courts so he’s out to stack the deck with liberal judges. Media Matters is heavily funded by Soros and still enjoys tax exempt status. Please…stop insulting everyone’s intelligence here.

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    • barber2
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 12:48pm

      Uh, we know how much all of you brainwashed little Marxists hate capitalism ! Not quite sure how Soros fits into this but maybe the fact that he brings chaos and destruction so that he can line his pockets to fund more of your chaos and destruction fills the bill. Strange capitalism . Not quite sure what you all have in common but anger, revenge, and a big chip on your shoulders seems to be one uniting feature. Well, have a nice day hating and mocking people. Seems to float your boats. Bring on those hoodies and those “revolutions.” You go, guys – somewhere else, please !

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    • kegbuna
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 1:50pm

      I don’t quite understand AvengerK. So do you agree with the labor laws currently in place? Also, if you read that article, Soros is hardly the villain in that story, though he did make out very handsomely. Regardless, it seems that we agree that those in power tend to shift the playing field to suit their interests. Although I don’t quite see it as prominently with Soros, I’ll never completely deny that he would like to make some things more favorable to himself. I don’t see how a liberal judge would help him become richer or more powerful, but I guess you do.

      I’m not acting, by the way, just expressing my thoughts. I‘m not a new member so you’ll see that I participate where I feel appropriate. I don’t hate capitalism, as I think capitalism’s concept of competition is a great driving force for innovation. I enjoy my work, though it is challenging, and am happy with my performance being used to calculate my raise and bonus. I just think that the issue of worker‘s rights is one that shouldn’t be ignored and left completely to the “invisible hand” of the free market. We’ve covered a lot in our current labor laws, but allowing them to be rolled back and having their representation taken away is not healthy for our country.

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 2:29pm

      Spare me your veiled condesencion KEGBUNA?. Soros funds entities like Media Matters which has been clearly demonstrated at this point as disseminating stories to the “alphabet” networks and MSNBC in particular in order to undermine the GOP and conservative mouthpieces. Media Matters is supposed to be a non-partisan “watchdog” enjoying tax exempt status..clearly this is not the case. Soros‘ agenda isn’t just financial, it’s ideological. Your “Who? What’s Soros done” routine isn’t very convincing, neither is your duplicitous “I’m not acting by the way…ad nauseum”. Your fellow lefty JZS tries the same routine.
      I’ll continue with some specifics….

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 5:30pm

      It seems the monitors had some trouble with my most KEGBUNA? so I’ll try another route. Soros is heavily invested in “green schemes” around a billion dollars worth. Recently he was lobbying for the SEC put together the “strongest rules possible” to force oil companies to disclose their payments to foreign governments. These companies argue that they would be at a disadvantage against their foreign competitors.
      In practice what would happen is American companies would not be able to reach deals to drill in foreign nations, where much of the world’s last undeveloped reserves are likely located. Not only would it be against the law to meet the overseas competition’s terms, but Soros could then unleash his menagerie of think tanks, 527 groups, human rights and monitoring groups to “investigate” American oil companies to keep their hands tied. Meanwhile, competitors in countries like Russia and China would not be subject to the same scrutiny. Still want to play dumb KEGBUNA?
      Soros funds Moveon. Moveon recently protested development of shale oil. Is this getting through to you KEGBUNA? Soros wants to hurt the U.S. to make money. It serves him both financially and ideologically to do so.

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    • kegbuna
      Posted on March 31, 2012 at 7:53am

      I get where you feel that Soros may be hurting some industry’s freedom, but you’ve had to make a leap in judgement in order to reach that conclusion, which leaves me skeptical. Ideologically, what do you think his end goal for America is? I’m a bit wary, though, because me even suggesting that Kochs fight against workers being treated better only earned me titles such as “communist” and “marxist”. If you are going to make that leap with Soros, please just offer a little background.

      As far as the current labor laws go, what are your thoughts? I’m trying to see how far apart we truly are ideologically.

      I would rather not repeat myself, but no, this is not me acting. You tell me to drop “the act”, but these are honest opinions. I’m on this site because I enjoy a little spar here and there to make sure my arguments and beliefs are still sharp. I also frequent biggovernment, redstate, the foundry (though commenting on there is scarce), and read hot air. This is in addition to my usual material.

      I don’t think those that disagree with me are trying to sink America, but I just think that some of the ideas about the relationships Americans have to each other are a bit… myopic. Anyway, that’s why I think this article is a distraction from the real conversation.

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  • Moshy1
    Posted on March 30, 2012 at 8:29am

    Brave New Foundation? Isn’t that a little bit like Brave New World? I’m guessing Mr. Lava thinks that the Koch brothers are leading us to the Brave New World and his organization is trying to prevent that. Of course the reality is always the opposite from what liberals say. The truth is that people like Mr. Lava are purposely leading us to that Brave New World where government is master and controller of our lives while manipulating us into thinking everything is great. Doesn’t that exactly describe the vision of society that Obama wants? There are a lot of organizations dedicated to publishing flat out lies today. It used to be just “spin,” or half truths. Now it’s just flat out lies. I guess we can thank Saul Alinsky for that.

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  • Gonzo
    Posted on March 30, 2012 at 8:29am

    I think all the attempts to turn th the Koch brothers into Dracula and the wolfman have fallen flat on their face. I bet 90% of America has never even heard of them. They’re just preaching to the left wing choir.

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    • SPUGGYLIPZZ
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 10:23am

      True, most people don’t care enough to educate themselves.

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    • barber2
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 10:46am

      SPUG: Spoken like the typically arrogant Lefty that you are !

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    • AvengerK
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 11:30am

      I find it particularly amusing SPUGGY when a lefty attempts to disparage the Koch Brothers by accusing them of cannibalism and infanticide while the same “Lava” supports the killing babies of at any stage of pregnancy. Don’t you agree that there seems to be something wrong with Lava at this point?

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    • Gonzo
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 12:54pm

      When your man Obama gets reelected, maybe you can set up some “education camps” for all those dumb cattle that can’t see how brilliant you all are.

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  • drago
    Posted on March 30, 2012 at 8:26am

    “Likes to eat babies”,gotta love the intellegence of the left,college educated, with a 5 year old mind……

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  • Steve Lindsey
    Posted on March 30, 2012 at 8:24am

    I say all the rich should go Galt and see just how many “freebies” the Government will be able to hand out to the 99%.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 8:35am

      Seriously agree.

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    • JP4JOY
      Posted on March 30, 2012 at 9:33am

      It really is time to DEFUND the government. If those of us still paying taxes STOPPED our representatives would have no choice but to reign in spending or just print money. Most realize that printing would lead to an economic collapse of unprecedented proportion. Even if we all went “Galt” for 6 months I’m pretty sure our reps would get the message loud and clear.

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  • The Gooch
    Posted on March 30, 2012 at 8:21am

    What is the left’s fascination and hunger for anything involving dead babies? Maybe Planned Parenthood could start a carry out service… You could be onto something, Mr. Lava.
    If the Koch brothers did eat babies, I’m sure that would be the one redeeming quality they possessed from a leftist perspective.
    Mr. Lava (what a great surname) embarrassed himself. But it‘s the Koch’s fault. Yep. I see the theme being pursued here. Perhaps the Koch’s should apologize for Mr. Lava’s actions… because that makes sense.

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