O’Reilly Gets in Heated Exchange With Conservative Over Minimum Sentences for Drug Dealers
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Bill O’Reilly went head-to-head with HotAir editor-at-large Mary Katharine Ham on his Fox News program Monday night in a segment that degenerated into a shouting match. The topic was “hidden agendas” of the left, and more specifically, a recent New York Times editorial that called for a mandatory minimum sentencing for convicted drug traffickers, something O’Reilly clearly abhors.
O’Reilly said the efforts to make medical marijuana legal in states like California are a “ruse” and the initiative always ended up causing social problems, resulting in the inevitable closing of dispensaries. He then blasted the New York Times for taking such an “extreme” position on the issue.
Ham explained her own position on the subject and said it was reasonable to look at the sentencing requirement to make sure law enforcement wasn’t overloading the system with people who may not exactly qualify as “drug dealers” and may not belong in jail.
O’Reilly then said he wanted to take it out of the “theoretical realm” by, ironically, asking a theoretical question.
“Your daughter, you know, 19-years-old, dead. Because she takes Oxycontin, ODs and she’s dead,” he said. ” Now, the person who sells her that, what should happen to that person?”
“That person should go to jail,” Ham replied. “But just for the record, that was theoretical and what I was talking about was an actual law in Florida.”
Ham repeated that the theoretical drug dealer should go to jail if he is found guilty in a court of law but argued a judge should have discretion to decide what kind of sentencing to give. O’Reilly interrupted, saying “I don’t want to hear this.”
“Here’s the problem, when you have a mandatory, sometimes you are catching that girl who is hooked on drugs,” Ham added, raising her voice. “So do you want her in jail for four years?”
“Mary Katharine, just stop it,” O’Reilly interjected.
The Fox News host once again went back to his daughter analogy and said if it were his daughter who had been sold drugs, he would want a minimum 10-year prison sentence for the drug dealer. He accused Ham of giving drug dealers “a pass.”
Watch the entire segment via Mediaite, below. The debate starts heating up at around 4:35.
This story has been updated.
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Comments (233)
ronbo51
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:05amLike many, Bill is removed from the scene on the ground. If his son was caught growing a pot plant(1) in his closet, depending on the state, he would be charged with felony cultivation, intent to distribute, possession of a schedule 1drug. He would very likely face mandatory minimums and do HARD time.
Report Post »Also, I know of several people who became injured, were prescribed pain opiates, became addicted, spent all their money, got caught trying to score pills on the black market, and did HARD time. One was a respected school teacher. So Bill, go educate yourself, you elitist hack.
Rightallalong
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:14amBILLO is a Big Government progressive who believes he knows better than the little people … hmmm sounds like Obama
And BillO does not defend the constitution and believes the oath is a farce and is meaningless … see it for yourself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Isd0FlGb_LY
Report Post »Hydrox
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:27am@RIGHTALLALONG not the little people, “the folks” get it straight lol.
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:34amSo Orielly should the liquior store owners be arrested and imprisoned for the millions of deaths caused by alcohol every year …how is it any different than the drug dealer being responsible for someone elses use or misuse of drugs
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:06pmRightallalong, watched some of the video and apparently Oreilly is an idiot who didn’t see or simply ignored the NATTY GUARD GOING HOUSE TO HOUSE IN new orleans and taking legally owned registered firearms from the citizen who were esentially in a warzones where street gangs,and looters were running rampant. basicly taking the right ot live and to defend oneself
Report Post »Ari Ben TZion
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:18pmSupport Chick-fil-A.
Close your Amazon account and ask others to do the same.
Put Amazon on the endangered species list.
Amazon’s founder, Jeff Bozo has pledged $2.5 Million dollars in support of same-sex marriage in retaliation to Dan Cathy.
Mr Bozo is willing to use his wallet to take a stand so let us do the same.
Report Post »Damocles
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:34pmRightallong you nailed it. I gave up on Loofah man many years ago, when he thought it was okay for the government to disarm people in times of duress, like Katrina. What a farce. He is a pure elitist that plays loose and fast with the facts. The NPS won’t even sell his book about Lincoln because it is inaccurate. His recent arguments about the Aurora shooting are a prime example. Even the American Silencer Association called on him to retract his numerous inaccurate statements. If you want to spout off on tv, fine. But don’t claim that “the spin stops here” and play loose with factual information.
Report Post »goldmind
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:42pmBill “The Bloviationist” O’Rielly. He uses the word often, and I suspect he coined it exclusively for himself. Truly, a Bloated Bloviator. I shut him down years ago, and if Glenn doesn’t chill with this self aggrandizement, may have to let him go.
Report Post »resme
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:01pmCould we solve this problem with more freedom? The answer is YES
Report Post »jaylew
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:32pmAgreed…the entire war on drugs has simply turned into just another huge failed federal policy. I get the creeps just looking at SWAT garbed men and women storming into apartments and houses. The entire allure of slinging drugs of any kind or sort is driven by finance. As long as drugs are considered illicit and or illegal the profit motive remains high and the entire failed federal drug war continues. The removal of the profit motive is the only solution to this issue. Employers already test employees for drug use and so should schools and colleges. The issue of drug abuse or drug use is for sure serious….but the current approach is not only a flailing one….it has actually just created another monster worse than the one it was meant to slay in the first place. O’Reilly really is an irritating arrogant person these days and like others…I got a divorce from him years ago. The so-called War on Drugs…..of any kind…illicit or illegal is a huge industry in and of itself. There would be no drug cartels of any kind if there was no profit driving their existences. Do I think we should have a society that walks around in a stupor or a stoned state? Well it doesn’t matter what I think on that subject because we already have such a society. The way a society leads it’s citizens away from drug use is to amplify and nurture the notion on how nice life can be while straight. For those who choose to remain stoned or addicted to drugs….they will do what they will.
Report Post »rc30
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:32pmO’Reilly I like allot. But he is out of touch on allot of problems. I live in Texas make them do 10 20 30 years wont stop the problem. The next young person is right behide the one that got caught. He thinks it wont happen to him.
Report Post »I say make allot of them legal. You won’t have the money going to the drug lords. Also I think most people wont get hook on drugs. Its like drinking when your a kid. Then when you turn 21 its no big deal anymore. Yeh some become drunks most do not.
Independent4233
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:35pmThe prisons throughout the country are bursting at the seams with people who have been convicted of possession.
And this is creating a VERY serious problem, because most states are on the verge of bankruptcy and all of them are having budget problems.
California had to let several thousand inmates go, because it couldn’t afford the incarceration costs.
That will soon be the norm. This present so-called “recovery” is no more than a temporary fix that cannot be sustained. The continuing drop in the housing market and loss of jobs verifies that clearly.
I’m pretty sure…as the financial; situation continues to deteriorate……the powers that be are going to be forced to legalize some drugs.
Public pensions are being cut back in many states and cities with many more set to follow, with some of them getting close to reneging on pensions altogether. Before pensions are dropped, however, convicted drug users will be freed in an effort to reduce prison costs, right along with a cut in the police forces and correction officers, just as it has in Camden, Newark and other high crime, low revenue cities.
It doesn‘t matter what O’Reilly wants, the economic climate will dictate whether drugs are legalized or not just as it does for everything else.
Follow the money.
Report Post »Mutiny
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:42pmPrescription drugs and alcohol kill many more people than illegal drugs. Bill has no issue stomping on the Constitution and he shows it again. Fact is drugs should be up to the states to decide. The Federal drug war has failed. Return the power back to the states.
I quit watching Fox when Beck left. I quit watching Fox business when Napolitano left. I dont even go to their website. Fox uses the same tactics as MSNBC does from the left. Spin is spin.
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:47pmDid we learn nothing form the prohibition era….You can’t regulate morality all you do is create an under world and counterculture. Fact is alcohol is every bit as deadly as cocaine and has caused as much death all illegal drugs put together. Here an idea Let the states decide I gurantee one of the liberal states like Cali. or washington state will legalize everything then the nature order of things will cause drug addicts to migrate to the legalized states and if the citizen will self regulate like with alcohol then there will be a provable argument for or against legalization.
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:49pmMUTINY,
Report Post »you should watch stossel once and awhile.
Mil-Dot
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:56pmYep, and what kind of sentences are given to felonious criminal politicians who take bribes and orders from their NWO goon bosses? What kind of sentence do they get when they support sending the children of others to war to get killed and maimed by the thousands. What do they get? Answer-Nothing. Bill O’Reilly is a big govt, big brother loving creep. He and his ilk have ruined this country. Hell, we can have a fricking computer hand out minimum mandatory sentences. What do we need judges for? They are not judging anybody.
Report Post »notso
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:25pmO’Reilly is a big govt statist. Gave up on his show after his call for more gun control.
Report Post »Ari Ben TZion
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 3:03pmSupport Chick-fil-A.
Close your Amazon account and ask others to do the same.
Put Amazon on the endangered species list.
Amazon’s founder, Jeff Bozo has pledged $2.5 Million dollars in support of same-sex marriage in retaliation to Dan Cathy.
Mr Bozo is willing to use his wallet to take a stand so let us do the same.
Report Post »daxawyes
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 4:09pmI have to chime in on Bill. Bill is being like a typical emotional democrat. All reasoning out the window because he’s so caught up in his own fear. You can say if that gun dealer sells my kid a bullet and he or she dies put them away10 years. Does Bill realize that most of these drugs he’s worried about come from the drug pushing drug companies? What a dope this guy can be,
Report Post »smokeysmoke
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 4:24pmbill was totally wrong here… the drug laws are so terrible that it is the END USERS who are hurt the most from the laws… high price goods and the risk of illegality… and bill said good throw the users in jail… what a moron.. i thought we could have an educated discussion about ending the prohibition of minor substances like weed, lsd, mushrooms, and other common substances that people should not be put in jail for possesing… …. BILL WHAT WOULD YOU THINK IF WE JUST STARTED SAYING THE POSSESION OF ALCHOL IS A CRIME.. would you never drink again jsut becuase of the law….. I HATE HOW LIBRETARIANS SAY THEY ARE FOR PERSONAL CHOICES… and then you want to make my choice for me, as to what i put in my body…. so you seem to think alchol is cool but weed bad… WHY?
Report Post »chubbzbar
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 4:49pmOur local “War on Drugs” resulted in the death of two policemen, the injuring of 4 policemen, the injuring of the suspect and the shooting up of a neighborhood in the middle of the night. The cost of this raid both in money and trauma for all the families involved is overwhelming, and all for 5 pot plants the guy had growing in his basement. It is a misuse of our tax dollars. Bill O’Reilly, the BIC (bloviator-in-chief) should leave his idyllic existence on Long Island and in the sky-boxes of sporting events and join the real folks in the bleachers and in the subways of New York or on Main Street USA. He despises anyone who disagrees with his “theology.” I remember that disgusting interview with Sarah Palin, where he cut her off and basically called her a “dumb” woman. I watch him occasionally just to remember how misogynistic he is.
Report Post »spellbound
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 5:17pmO’Reilly loves nothing more than the sound of his own voice. He is THE most annoying person on FOX because he talks over, and interrupts every single ‘guest’ he has on the show. I quite watching his show for that reason. I don‘t understand why he can’t see that people watch the show in order to hear what OTHER people are saying. If he can’t control himself, he should stop having guests on his show and just bloviate for the entire hour all lone. At least you’d be able to hear one person speaking at a time.
Report Post »Wayner
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 5:47pmI‘ve had about all I can take of O’s snobbish Harvard put downs of anyone who dares disagree with him. And I wish he would stop reminding us that he’s among the rich 1%.. Also, I read Killing Lincoln. If all those “reviews” are true… the reviewers must never had done much reading.. Honestly, there’s nothing in there that is so spectacular… I didn’t buy it.. I checked it out at the library.. I’m not planning on going out of my way to check out “ Killing Kennedy”
Report Post »goldmind
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 6:37pmRight on Ron! Isn’t it odd how the American Drug Cartels and Alcohol Cartels, take little or no heat for the destruction they have visited upon this country. Seagrams, killed my mother at the ripe age of thirty eight. Bill, you are an elitist slug!
Report Post »goldmind
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 6:41pmAnd it’s so obvious when he refers to “The folks”, he’s thinking ducks. Just as his cronies over at Inside Tradition.
Report Post »midwesthippie
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 6:56pm…incarceration is a multi billion dollar industry…now we know which side BO is on…big FEDGOV establishment republican azzwipe…
Report Post »listeninginVT
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 8:11pmso, jails are overcrowded, murderers are even being let out way early and his beef is w/ drug dealers, others getting sentences and never spend even a minute inside. But seemingly because his/her Kid ‘died’ from an overdose, 10 years…. Well, wouldn’t that be on the kid?? the dealer didn’t make them OD, didn’t make them buy, etc… so Bill, supposedly middle of the road, is using a liberal, fictitious, emotional stance and saying it is an argument, and doesn’t want to hear any dissent. hum…..His middle of the road is looking more like the white line before the pavement ends….
Report Post »SgtB
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 9:29pmI want Bill O’Reilly out of here. He is a waste of oxygen. A big government progressive who only differs from someone like Obama in how he thinks the game should be run. He isn’t for individual Liberty or freedom of any stripe but the kind he dictates. He should be taken off of the air and put in a back room reading news feeds all day so we never have to hear from him again.
Also, maybe if we legalized doing drugs, people who are going to do drugs in the first place can get proper medical treatment and drugs that aren’t bought from a back alley and laced with only God knows what. Just maybe, we can see a rise in the number of functioning and independent habitual drug users out of the current group of homeless drifters and prisoners. Furthermore, who in their right mind thinks that putting someone in prison for 10 years is going to do a damn thing to rehabilitate the offender or protect society? Personally, I think that if I went to prison for a decade for a non-violent offense that I believed shouldn’t be a crime in the first place…. I wouldn’t give a damn about any other member of society outside my immediate family and I would seriously consider a life of crime to exact revenge on a society that stole my life from me.
And as always, please remember that this is coming from a Marine who has never done drugs or committed a crime other than speeding. I am one of the ones who took an oath to protect and defend, not a criminal.
Report Post »ClintK
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:05amI hope they pay Mary Katherine well for being on that blowhard’s show.
Report Post »johnjamison
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:31amBill major mistake is lumping marijuana in with meth,coke,ice,heroin and other deadly drugs. It’s hardly a fair and balance analysis when you mention marijuana then list off the destructive naure,addiction and mortality rates of other drugs. But that what Bill has become an idiot blinded by his own sense of worth basicly Bill is the Fox New equivilence to an elitist liberal college professor who berates students that aspouse more conservative view points. Or that teacher that told a high school social studies class they could go to jail for insulting Obama.
Report Post »richauthor
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:19pmTypical O’Reilly… He THINKS he knows better than everyone and he talks over all his guests who disagree with him. Quality guests like Krauthammer and Hume are regularly talked over by the GREAT BLOVIATOR, making one wonder how much longer they will appear on his show. Megyn Kelly has been angry enough over it to verbally put the big blowhard down.
Report Post »Cosmos102
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:55pm@Clintk
I was thinking the same thing as I was watching that disgusting display by O’Reilly last night. It‘s not the first time I’ve felt he cut Mary K Ham short in order to give more time to his friend Juan Williams. I hope they pay her a lot to appear for all the BS she has to take. I am always curious what he will say during his talking points, but then get disgusted during the rest of the show. He protects Obama and slams Middle Americans for thinking he is a Socialist or Communist. To say Obama is anything but a “Reluctant Capitalist” on his show is met with fervent rejection by O’Reilly. It’s time for me to stop watching the Blowhard.
Report Post »Mil-Dot
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:01pmYou see, if the govt and the cops would just get the hell out of the way and let the people handle things you would see illlicit drug use drop like a rock. You know why? Because drug dealers would be lynched when they are discovered or tarred and feathered or outright shot. But NOOOOO. We can’t have that . The govt wants them alive so they can soak them for every penny. That is all the “justice” (ha) system is. A vehicle to criminilize everything so that the soaking of the public can go on and on and on……..It truely is “us vs them”. Really.
Report Post »Dorugremon
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 6:13pmBill O’Really is a man devoid of principle who actually bragged about it:
“If you haven’t seen _The O’Reilly Factor_, you might be wondering whether I’m conservative, liberal, libertarian, or exactly what. I hope you‘re still wondering when you do catch my program and also after you’ve read this book, my first attempt to put my thoughts in print. See, I don’t want to fit any of those labels, because I believe that the truth doesn’t have labels”.
– _The O’Reilly Factor_
Like all too many “conservatives”, he’s a statist authoritarian. He’s not so much against state power, just those who are controlling it, and for purposes he doesn’t like. Otherwise, he‘s OK with intrusive gov’t. I gave up on O’Really years ago.
Report Post »TheValley
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 8:19pmThe only thing that needs to be known is that BILL IS A POMPOUS JACKASS!
Report Post »The-Real-Enrico
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:03amO’Reilly showing his lack of brain power once again. Why do people watch this guy’s show?
Report Post »TheePolitinator
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:15amI ask myself that everyday, after the Interview with the late Mr.Wallace I saw his true identity, he’s a liberal, believes in Global Warming and IMO is a tool for an agenda his weak mind will never understand. And he’s clueless about the Globalist agenda that is the driving force behind all political and legal change in this country and others funded by the Rothchild Federal Reserve Cartel.
Simple put he’s an imbecile.
Report Post »The-Real-Enrico
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:31am@TheePolitinator I never really liked his show much in the first place. I alway thought he was bit of a well intentioned dummy on a plethora of issues but after Bill calling for more gun control I figure that just some buffoon but he a hardcore progressive who is truly pushing for the progressivism.
Report Post »Individualism
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:34amO’Reilly would put Tyrone Brown to death, he is crazier than the folks in Texas.
Report Post »ShyLow
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:39pmLet’s have mandatory ten year sentences for motorcycle dealers,if
Report Post »NDPINDNT
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:59amI supervised inmates on fire crews in California. So many were in for posession of drugs. It is overloading the prisions and costing the tax payers so much to incarcerate them. If there was no room for a judge to use discretion in sentencing the prisions would be way overmaxed and the tax payers suffering more than the drug violators by footing tremendous expences to keep them there. Once off the drugs, many of these people aren’t bad individuals. It took me doing this job to find out. They were mostly just addicted and at the time would do anything breaking the law to get their fix. There needs to be options in the system giving them an opportunity to straighten up before placing them in prison. It can’t be black and white.. I also found that the structure and supervision they received in prison allow them to become organized and constructive contributors to accomplishing difficult tasks on projects and on the fireline. If we could do that in prison, why not in free society? Maybe someday someone will figure out how to make it happen. And of course, there are those that will never learn.
Report Post »JohnELocke
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:57amHe has been losing it slowly over the last couple years. I can’t really watch him anymore.
Report Post »The-Real-Enrico
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:09amI agree. I don’t and refuse to watch him at all. He has become so progressive that he should get a show on msnbc or cnn.
He has become a clown. He didn’t even need to agree with her opinion but could have let her express her opinion. All he did was shout her down and not even allow her express a full thought.
O’Reilly is making a ass out of himself.
Report Post »justangry
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:11pmHe’s just a CFR tool. He has no real principles. The CFR just wants him to move conservatives away from the Constitution to further their global agenda.
Report Post »scudster
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 8:07pmOver the last two years Bill has lost a lot of supporters that I know personally.H’e and his opinions are no longer welcome in my home.
Report Post »jscottu
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:56amO”Reilly is not a conservative/libertarian. He is an authoritarian. End mandatory minimum laws. End drug prohibition. Legalize freedom. Fill the jails with real criminals and then KEEP them there for their FULL SENTENCES.
Report Post »Rightallalong
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:16amyou are absolutely correct … BILLO believes he is samrter than everyone else and thus should dictate his brilliance to everyone and they shoulf follow …
I dont know why Beck even gives this progressive big government hack space on his site – unless it is to ridicule him
Report Post »The-Real-Enrico
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:35am@Rightallalong I hope this is his way of ridiculing him. Show people the crap that comes out of his mouth in his own words.
No need to add any opinion to it. Let the people hear and decide. At least thats what I think this is.
Report Post »BryanB
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:55amMy Sister died 3 years ago from a Drug Overdose.
Do you know how many of those Drug Laws could have saved my Sister’s Life ????
Not one……..
Report Post »The-Real-Enrico
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:18amSorry for your loss. You are 100% right. Prisons don’t cure drug habits.
This the same argument with guns. Guns don’t kill people. People kill people. So the same with drugs. People commit suicide by using the drugs, they’re not murdered by their dealers, well in most cases at least.
Report Post »Bruce P.
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:36amBRYAN — that is terrible. I am sorry for your family’s loss.
Report Post »resme
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:02pmSad to hear, Sorry for your loss.
Report Post »jaylew
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:47pmVery Salient. Of course hearts go out to families that lose one of their own because of any tragedy. But you have made a point that others need to absorb and digest.
Drug use and abuse at it’s roots is not a crime issue. It is a health issue….both physical and mental. Drug use and abuse has been forced into the criminal system because of the profit motive for slinging drugs and the correlated high cost to the consumer…in this case the abuser and or the addict. Human Beings addicted to powerful drugs could care less at that point about the laws on the books. An addicted person no longer cares about anything much at all.
I am convinced that one of the main reasons the federal government is so knee deep in this so-called drug war…is that the huge illicit or illegal drug suppliers have been made filthy rich and the government wants a piece of that action…either by appropriations from Congress to fight the losing fight….or perhaps more sinister…by actually being involved in some sordid way. One thing we know for sure….you can’t get an inner city high school kid to work at McDonalds as long as slinging crack continues to net him or her 500 bucks a day. Even a severely retarded person could figure that one out. Removing the profit motive will save lives. Will it save everyone? No. Some folks who take drugs in an abusive fashion are going to die….because they decided a good while back that dying might be better than living….hence the health issue.
Report Post »HigherRoad
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:53amI have always enjoyed O’Reilly, but in last night’s show, he asked Mary Catherine and Juan a question, and then refused to let them answer. I am surprised they still want to appear on his show. Apparently, Michelle Malkin has already made that decision. Bill, you are better than this!
Report Post »Altair
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:14amNo, he’s not “better than this” at all.
“Mary Catherine, just stop it,” O’Reilly interjected.
Typical O’reilly attitude toward anyone foolish enough to go on his show and try to talk to him. All he wants to hear is his own voice. Stopped watching his vulgar show three years ago.
Report Post »The-Real-Enrico
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:23amActually I don’t think he is. He has always been like this. This why don’t watch his show. He is no better than that Hard Ball douche. He shout down hes guest and doesn‘t allow them to speak when he doesn’t like them or what they’re saying.
And he is way to progressive for my blood. Advocating for gun control? No thanks Bill. I will never watch his show again.
Report Post »West Coast Patriot
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:44pmThis is him when he was much younger: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy-Y3HJNU_s
Here is a funny take on the first one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iRTyW2Qnbs&feature=fvwrel
Report Post »bannedfromCNN
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:06pmPerhaps he‘s not ’better than this’. I stopped watching him about a year ago, just because of this kind of outburst and his growing irrationality. MK is one of my favorites, and THE BILL should have treated her more respectfully. Bullies are no fun to watch, Bill!
Report Post »TheEDGE
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:29pmDid O’reilly save time for his nightly Elvis segment? He only seems happy when he is talking ratings or Elvis.
Report Post »historyguy48
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:53amOne thing Chairman Mao did correctly was end Chinas drug problem. He accomplished this in about a year.
Report Post »How did he do it?
He simply shot everyone involved. Users, pushers, suppliers, it didn’t matter they were all given a single permanent cure, a bullet in the back of the head.
Isn’t Communism wonderful? Aren’t you glad we are almost there?
HorseDancer
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:08amElect Romney and you can expect the same.
Report Post »FREEDOMoverFEAR
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:59amShooting druggies didn‘t stop them that’s when huffing fermenting fecal matter, because it wasn’t illegal, became popular. LOL
Report Post »HorseDancer
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:13pmFREEDOM . . . Now you’re speaking my language. Did you know that Ted Nugent actually crapped in his pants for a week straight just to avoid serving in the military? It’s true. Ask GONZO. Nobody knows more and loves more about THE NUGE!!!!!! than Gonzo . . .well him and me. We’re very close, Gonzo and me. We’re going down to Cabelas later today to stock up on some ammo and look for a little underage strange. Wanna go?
Report Post »Deadbang
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:21pmRight on brother!
Report Post »TheEDGE
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 1:25pmUh oh! Hide your kids everyone. The Blaze’s resident pervert has decided to emerge from his washed-out hippie-hole. How goes it Horsedancer? Good to see you are still supporting THE BECK after the pummeling you received last week.
Report Post »Maji
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:23pmHoredancer..You mean Romney wil have it out with MaryK Ham??
Report Post »SquidVetOhio
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:49amSorry O’Reilly but I have a hard time with a pot dealer going to prison for 20 years when a child molestor is getting 2. Since we can’t kill the child molesters (unfortunately), I want them locked up forever. Not the corner drug dealer.
Report Post »The-Real-Enrico
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:38amAgreed, well unless the drug dealer is also molesting then he should have life in prison too.
Report Post »ed0315
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:48amO’Reilly again displays his total lack of reality which never gets in the way of his having an opinion. What he fails to realize is that the government loves to always come up with new guidelines as to what constitutes a certain criminal act. If an addict who obviously has a problem has say 20 pills on them and the government decides that some unreasonable number like over 5 now makes you a dealer because of intent to distribute which now makes you eligible for a much harsher sentence. I know some guys this has happened to who used steroids. A typical body builders dose is much higher than what would be used for medical reasons and if that person got caught with the standard body building dose he now goes away for a very long time as he is now considered a dealer, which he wasn’t. O’Reilly needs to disappear and STFU.
Report Post »ricckky
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:45amO’Rieilly has become out of touch with the people—-He is the spinner now—He sounds like mccain-when it comes to the LIAR-N-CHIEF— Bill will say–”I don’t think he wants to destroy our country“ ”I don’t think he hates America”—Bill, Bill—this Liar leading our Country is a sociopath with sealed personal records—Come on Bill– get back on the ball!!!!!!
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:52amBingo.
Bill picks and chooses certain things, blindly. This drug thing in particular is a silly thing to invest so much energy and time in. His worst, though, is his disdain for the oil companies. Again, what is it about elites like Bill that make them think they can pick and choose which American companies can make a profit, and how much at that?
Dude’s losing focus, and will eventually lose viewers.
Report Post »betsyyoung
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:08amWon’t happen…he has gone to the dark side!
Report Post »The-Real-Enrico
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:43amAgreed. Bill is now apart the spin zone. He needs to retire soon as possible. We need a surge of Tea party and Libertarian commentators to take the media.
Report Post »gator_rick
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:22pmI agree! Immediately, after chastising Mary Catherine, he gets offended at the author of “The Communist” and goes into full “Obama Defense” mode by telling the guy “you’re not saying that Obama is a communist, right?” Actually, Bill, ONCE AND FOR ALL, YES, OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST! What can you expect when his mother, father, grandparents, and mentor were ALL COMMUNISTS?
Report Post »remington7600
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:45amORIELLY = JUDGE – JURY – EXECUTIONER
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SquidVetOhio
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:50amBut, he’s looking out for the folks. lol
Report Post »subic
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:35amBill must have some substantial investments in the prison system. The ones that are the problems are the Dr’s themselves, subscribing these narcotics for every little sore toe or muscle pull.
The war on drugs keeps certain govt depts in business, as well as the cops, the lawyers, the judges, prisons, perole officers, drug programs, etc. The elites want the drugs to flow so that they can make $$ off the forementioned and keep the people dumbed down as well.
Oh, lest I forget the pharmaceutical firms, the lobbyists & the politicians. They are making a ton of $ as well while the banks launder the $$ from the, heroin, cocaine & weed. Wasn’t it WELLS FARGO, that laundered 300billion of the cartel $$, while the dept oif JUST-US looked the other way?…look it up its all on record.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/03/us-bank-mexico-drug-gangs
Report Post »bigtruck1956
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:43amThere was a time when I used to enjoy watching Mr. O’Reilly. That time has long passed. Mr. O’Reilly has become so arrogant and berated to his guests that it is impossible to watch him anymore. This is never more evident than when Mr. Williams and Mary Catherine are on his show. Notice after Mr. O’Reilly new rates Mary Catherine and turns to Mr. Williams then Mr. Williams looks like a schoolboy in the principal’s office. Mr. O’Reillys argument made absolutely no sense. And his rebuttals were totally unfounded, uneducated and uninformed. Mr. O’Reilly has a long history of being abusive to his staff going all the way back to his days with ET. I do not watch the news anymore. I read online publications, blogs and of course I watched GV TV and read the blaze. I do believe Mr. O’Reilly still has a bit of cactus in his crotch watching the success of Glenn Beck.
Report Post »betsyyoung
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:01amBoy oh boy, you have hit the nail on its head! I support everything you said. I rarely watch O’Reilly anymore. He has taken the stance of his superiors and lost his voice in the process. Coward!
Report Post »Walkabout
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:13amSo right. Big difference from a decade ago & now.
Report Post »Middletown
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 3:21pmMy thoughts too. Last nights show was the definition of spin on an issue.
Report Post »Kathleen3
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:40amI agree with O’Reilly on this one. We are evolving (devolving!) into a society that venerates the criminal while denouncing the victim. A fish rots from the head down. Were it not for a corrupted government that facilitates the flow of drugs across the southern border we would not have the drug problem that exists in this country today. Americans who die and those incarcerated are nothing more than human collateral for the governments of Mexico and the U.S. who, without doubt, share in the drug cartels’ profits.
Report Post »jaylew
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 2:15pmThe second the profit motive disappears….that will be the first time we can see the problem in it’s correct tone and view. Rarely if ever……does Hurricane storm reconstruction occur while the winds are still howling and the streets are still flooded. The same thing occurs following most wars. You cannot pick up any pieces of anything while a hurricane or a war is going on. Remove the profit motive on drugs of ALL kinds and sorts…..and the storm and war ends instantly. Then and only then can the victims and the soldiers and the entire area be sorted out and put back together…..knowing full well…that there will always be people who simply do not want to be put back together….at least not in the same way everyone else might think they should. A person should have the freedom to make poor choices. The society is only obligated to ensure that a person’s poor choices do not step on anyone else in the process. The only peripheral damage a future “profit motiveless” drug addict can inflict on society then….is the medical or health aspect…..and guess what? That is already currently affected in this failed drug abuse model we are operating under. Junkies laying in alleys are pathetic. College kids stoned on reefer are annoying. Drunk men and women are obnoxious. People addicted to pain pills struggle in their own little hells…..but the reality of it all…is that illicit drugs are big business…just like cheeseburgers…very expensive cheeseburgers.
Report Post »DetritusScreener
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:36amI used to like and respect Bill O’Reilly but he is all over the map anymore. Lately he has been taking the logical thought process out of the equation on some issues. Not only that, he has danced around all the lies and fraud of the Obama administration and has become his own spin machine.
Report Post »Dorugremon
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 7:22pmDetritusScreener:
“I used to like and respect Bill OReilly but he is all over the map anymore. Lately he has been taking the logical thought process out of the equation on some issues. Not only that, he has danced around all the lies and fraud of the Obama administration and has become his own spin machine”.
Bill O’Really has as big a mancrush on Obama as Chris “Thrill Leg” Matthews. When it comes to Obama, O’Really is anything but the loyal opposition.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:35amEvery week he beats her up and lets Juan run off at the mouth. I don’t know why she even bothers going on there. He never lets her get a word in!
Report Post »hauschild
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:56amI noticed that also. She’s a damned sharp cookie. I Bill sees her as a bit of a threat, so he’s quick to tug on the leash.
Meanwhile, Williams has absolutely no clue what he’s talking about and Bill lets him ramble on with his left-wing nonsense about how everything is somebody else’s fault, and certain people in this country cannot possibly compete, so they need to be propped up, coddled and lead around by the nose.
Wise up, Billy!
Report Post »nzkiwi
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:35amI used to watch the O’Reilly Factor regularly, but his one-eyed view of the world became so irritating that I seldom watch it anymore.
Report Post »betsyyoung
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:50amDitto!
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:59amI wish he would retire and let Laura Ingram take over that slot. It’s a better show when she guest hosts. Bill can concentrate on his first love, selling books.
Report Post »HorseDancer
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:14amGONZO . . . Yes! And yes AGAIN! Laura Ingraham. Love her. She’s the one who says “Shut up and sing.” yYou know, keeping entertainers in their place. Thinks singers and actors and such have no place discussing their political views. Wonders why anyone pays attention to celebrities. Well, expect for her. Hey . . . wait a second . . . there‘s a thought creeping into my rockin’ head . . . something’s not right about that whole Ingraham thing . . . what IS it? . . . Oh . . . oh, oh . . . nope. it’s gone. She got a mouth on her, though, eh? Taylor made for . . . nuff said.
Report Post »Gonzo
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:20amShut up and dance pony boy.
Report Post »scuba13
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 12:38pmI quit watching Ted Baxter when they stopped playing reruns of The Mary Tyler Moore show a few years ago.
Report Post »Wango
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 9:24pmGonzo . . . I hear ya! Channel your inner Laura!
Report Post »REETZBEE
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:32amI think it all boils down to personal responsibility. There’s so many things on this planet that you can get addicted to. It’s up to each individual to say no or overcome their addiction by any means. Everything we do is a lesson we have to learn from whether it be the easy or hard way out.
Report Post »BenInNY
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:32amO’Reilly has serious blind spots on some issues, and this is one of them. The Rockefeller drug laws we had in NY are a pretty good example of his intentions misfiring badly. Not a “legalize everything” advocate here, but I remember it being a mandatory minimum of 1 year jail time if you were caught with a single hit of lsd. Somehow they considered that “intent to sell” if I remember correctly. I ran through a yellow light in a bad part of town one day and the officer who stopped me decided that my rolling tobacco (yeah, just tobacco) was just cause to tear my car apart and frisk me. Fun times, those. Would he have bothered without the laws that were in place at the time? Who knows, but I suspect the other 3 units that showed up that day wouldn’t have. What I do know is that the prison population locally has a higher ratio of violent crime/gang members to people charged with possession nowadays.
Report Post »republic2011
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:31amO’reilly is an elitist. He believes he has all the answers to the worlds problems and that government is the solution to our problems. Current drug laws and the war on drugs have only made things worse. We now have powerful drug cartels because of it (akin to prohibition… a whole new circle of power arose from that time period due to stupid progressive laws). You can’t save people from themselves with laws. You need to start with faith based approaches. If they want to do the drugs and the OD, it is unavoidable. And building more prisons to house more drug related detainees is not the answer either. Who is going to pay for that, Bill? The war on drugs needs to start and end in the home… period. Teach your children to stay away from it and you’ll be fine. Others will fall, but that’s life. People make bad choices everyday and they live with the consequences. We don‘t need a nanny state run by elitists like Bill O’reilly or Michael Bloomberg. Oh.. btw… Bill.. Your good buddy Dennis Miller was a fan of the ganga. Is it ok for him to toke, since he has millions of dollars?
Report Post »the_system_disconnect
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:25amThe problem is, as usual, Bill 0‘Reilly doesn’t have any understanding of the law. Mary Catherine is saying that just by having a certain number of pills, the government can say that there is an intent to sell. Bill has no idea about the laws yet, he spouts off idiotically about everything. Just another extra big government RINO.
Report Post »moomaw10
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:44amI saw that exchange between those two AND as usual Bill didn’t give much room for her opinion.. I don’t understand WHY anyone goes on his show…I used to love his show an even bought his book“Cultural Warriors”..BUT he has changed over the years…I think Fox has cracked down on all them..Tow the line or leave…I’m glad Glenn chose the later..
Report Post »wifezilla
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:21amIf my 24 year old son goes to the liquor store and buys 4 bottles of whiskey, then drinks himself to death, should the liquor store clerk go to jail? The makers of the whiskey? Or should I accept that my son made a very poor choice and paid the natural consequences for his actions?
Report Post »USPATRIOT101
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:25amNothing replaces personal accountability.
Report Post »betsyyoung
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:54amBest analogy yet!
Report Post »The-Real-Enrico
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:45am@wifezilla You hit the nail right on the head. Thank you.
Report Post »USPATRIOT101
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:21amThis “war on drugs” is a jioke. When you have drug dealers smuggling drugs into my country as they are on their way to testify against our border patrol agents for defending the border, the system is beyond broke.
Report Post »WAKEUPUSA2012
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 3:18pmLol or when you have the CIA bringing in drugs to fund black ops, yeah the “war on drugs” is a joke just like the “war on terror” is a joke. Oh but you think neocnoservaitves are cool?
Report Post »DimmuBorgir
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:17amI can‘t stand Bill O’Reilly when he gets on his high horse and won’t listen to anything. Especially when it comes to him talking about drugs. He has no idea what you’re talking about. Something you’d expect to hear from Bill O when talking about drugs, “the drugs are horrible, shooting the marijuana in your arm makes you addicted for life.”
Report Post »not an actual quote but about as accurate as his real thoughts on drugs
USPATRIOT101
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:24amI understand his passion, I just think he’s out of touch with the average American dealing with this issue as well as gun control.
Report Post »The_Cabrito_Goat
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 10:44amHe plays both sides, progressive and non-progressive. A negative by a positive is still a negative. That is why the great MLK said the hottest part of Hell is reserved for the neutral in moral conflict. That is why I don’t follow Bill anymore.
Report Post »EGsimi1776
Posted on August 7, 2012 at 11:25amIt’s almost like he bought into “Reefer Madness” hook line and sinker and is still too arrogant to admit he was had…
I for one have stopped watching his show, for me, as a Libertarian, he is just on the wrong side of too many issues.
Report Post »DoesntSufferFoolsGladly
Posted on August 8, 2012 at 7:44pmThe WOD is a total joke, & there are many people who have to take narcotics for debilitating pain, due to illness or an accident. The DEA thugs have clearly lost the WOD have & have taken it into doctors offices. Dealers don’t keep records, & docs are soft targets. It increases their “collars”.
They raid pain clinics, shut them down, and screw the patients who genuinely need pain medication. This creates a climate of fear, and Drs are afraid to prescribe to patients who are in terrible pain. They won’t prescribe or they under-prescribe. I know this because I’m a chronic pain patient due to spine pain, fibro and rheumatoid arthritis. My Dr won’t prescribe what will manage my pain, so he writes me just enough to keep me from jumping off a roof.
So many Drs are doing hard time because they were fooled by a patient who said they had bad back pain.They get busted selling their meds, & it falls back on the Dr ; or a patient overdoses, & an honest Dr goes up the river. There certainly are some bad apples for Drs, no doubt about that, but there are many innocent Drs who got caught in the DEA’s net. Drs are easier to snare than drug Lords. The DEA give pharmacists a hard time as well.
As for BO, he’s just a big bag of wind. He brings guests on to sit and watch him pontificate. It was shameful how he treated Mary K. I always feel bad when he interrupts Charles K because he has a hard time catching his breath & getting back on track. Unlike BO, he’s a brilliant man.
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